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Southern Poverty Law Center blames San Bernardino jihad massacre on Pamela Geller

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“Domestic terrorism like the attack in San Bernardino last year during which 14 people were killed by two Muslim extremists are the propaganda work of anti-Muslim ideologues like Pamela Geller, the most visible and flamboyant person in the anti-Muslim movement, and the injection of hatred against Muslims, Potok said.” So the SPLC’s Mark Potok would have us believe that if people like Pamela Geller would just stop their “anti-Muslim” propaganda, all would be well and all manner of things would be well: Islamic jihad murderers such as Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik, you see, are just driven to it by “Islamophobia.” If we would just be nice to Muslims, then all the jihad would cease.

Besides his execrable viciousness in painting a huge target on Pamela Geller’s back, Mark Potok doubtless doesn’t realize how paternalistic and ethnocentric his claim is. He completely discounts the Islamic texts and teachings that jihadis use to justify violence and make recruits among peaceful Muslims, and places all the blame for jihad murder on the “propaganda work of anti-Muslim ideologues.” So for Potok, Muslims are not capable of acting for reasons of their own; they can only react to what “visible and flamboyant” non-Muslims do, and they aren’t even rational or thoughtful enough to be held responsible for their actions; the responsibility for them rests entirely with the “Islamophobes” who provoked them. For Mark Potok, Muslims are thus not even fully human, as they’re not capable of making decisions for which they can be held accountable. Leftists such as Potok don’t realize it, but they’re as convinced of their own superiority over non-Western, non-white people as any bearer of the “White Man’s Burden” ever was.

Mark Potok

“Study: Hate groups on the rise across the U.S.,” by George Mattar, The Intelligencer, February 28, 2016 (thanks to Pamela Geller):

The number of hate groups in the United States is on the rise, according to a study by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Extremist groups in 2015 numbered 892 — up 14 percent from the 784 in 2014, the study claims.

Pennsylvania ranks fifth on the list of states with the most hate groups — 40 in 2015, up from 38 in 2014, according to the center.

The top four states on the list are Texas, California, Florida and New York.

The SPLC includes as hate groups neo-Nazi, racist skinhead, neo-Confederate and anti-Muslim groups and the Ku Klux Klan….

Anti-Muslim organizations have been growing more than any other type of extremist group — from 24 in 2014 to 34 in 2015, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center report.

Potok said the growth has been spurred by terrorist attacks and threats from the Islamic State.

Domestic terrorism like the attack in San Bernardino last year during which 14 people were killed by two Muslim extremists are the propaganda work of anti-Muslim ideologues like Pamela Geller, the most visible and flamboyant person in the anti-Muslim movement, and the injection of hatred against Muslims, Potok said.

Potok said many people believed Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump when he said 25 percent of American Muslims support violent jihad, but serious polls — including one by the Pew Research Center — have shown the claim is false. “Support for violent jihad is very tiny,” Potok said.

Jacob Bender, who leads the Philadelphia chapter of the Council of America Islamic Revolution [sic!], said the hatred toward Muslims is totally unwarranted….

Comments

  1. They are idiots and a front for attacking conservatives and anyone opposed to left wing politics.. The reason was radical islamic terrorism and nothing more.

    • It is her fault for terrorism and violence. It is not the fault of islam or of the muslims who killed innocent people, rape young girls of 9-12 years old. It is the fault of those who see the reality the way it is and not how the perverted and corrupted politicians want us to see.

      • Does Mark Potok classify former Muslims who create groups as ‘extremists’.

        Would Germans who opposed Hitler be ‘extremists’? Hitler thought so. Hitler’s nephew fought against fascism. Was Patrick Hitler an ‘extremist’?

        Does Mark Potok receive oil money from the Gulf states? From Saudi Arabia?

        The SPLC should surely be audited by the IRS and watched by the FBI.

        • Ask Mr. Potok needs to read some history books about Islam over 1400 years not to peaceful especially when the are majority. Maybe he would prefer living in the Middle East with all the Muslims he’d like see how that works out.

    • the more outrageous the comments by the SPLC, the better, as it completely discredits them as a legitimate entity. send them to Syria and talk to ISIS

        • Islam is a religion, evidence of a mental disorder, and a totalitarian political ideology. It’s the trifecta from Hell.

    • Hello Donald —- Yes, obvious truth on the San Bernardino slaughter. ORTHODOX ISLAM IS THE MOTIVATOR, AS MANDATED BY ALLAH’S COMMANDS TOWARD NON-MUSLIMS.

      To understand Mark Potok’s compulsion toward such lies, look at the Diagnostic & Statistical Manual’s section on Personality Disturbances. You will find one part of it describing him perfectly.

    • @ Donald

      “They are idiots and a front for attacking conservatives and anyone opposed to left wing politics.. The reason was radical islamic terrorism and nothing more.”

      Leftists hate anyone who disagrees with them much more than they hate the slaughter committed by Muslims.

      They also must maintain their fantasy world mentality that says all religions and people are pretty much the same, all cultures are equal, etc. They’ve built their entire lives on these lies. (And often their careers!) So when the truth starts to break through, they go into a frenzy. Anyone who dares shatter their lies must be silenced.

      And when possible, destroyed.

    • “They are idiots and a front for attacking conservatives…”

      Actually, the SPLC has morphed from simply being an attack dog for the left. The SPLC now has the primary purpose of amassing a huge amount of cash for the use and distribution of its founder and executives.

      The SPLC has the lowest ratio of contributions to spending of almost any non-profit, earning it consistently low marks from organizations rating charities. The have a huge amount of cash reserves, much of it in offshore accounts. The bulk of their operating expenses are…fundraising. So, where does the money go? Who knows? Certainly not to people who actually need a lawyer for any injustices they suffered. I have heard that their corporate offices are elegantly splendid.

      I myself got on their mailing list, and I can tell you they send contributions requests every week or two. The whole organization is focused on making money. Of course, soft-headed leftists are their prime cash cow, and they milk these suckers to the max.

      They list only one Islamic group as a hate group: the Nation of Islam, which is a low-hanging fruit in anybody’s book. Also, the Nation of Islam has nothing to do with Islam, but why quibble?

      Give yourself a laugh, and peruse their list of hate groups at
      https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/groups Interestingly, Jihad Watch is not on it, which might be the worst insult they could give Robert Spencer, as he does a better job of informing the public on Islam than many of the groups they do list.

      Basically, the SPLC is a bunch of money-grubbing, checkbook-pandering clowns. They are quoted by extremely lazy reporters as a resource for determining who is a “hate” group. You can destroy a journalist quoting them by asking if the journalist is aware of the ratings given the SPLC by groups whose purpose is to rate the effectiveness and integrity of groups seeking non-profit contributions.

      • Good info, Ronald B. And yet not surprising in the least.

        Scratch a committed leftist and find an avaricious person many more times than not. In addition to being just plain wrong and stupid, so many leftists are hypocrites too since they regularly denounce the capitalistic system while only too eager to make money. Scoundrels through and through.

        • Thanks, Wellington. Always nice to hear from you or read your comments.

          It so happens the SPLC is worse than most in the area of pure money-grubbing. They consistently do less work, and ask for more contributions, as time passes. It’s hard to take them seriously because they’re so blatantly obvious, but lazy journalists find them quotable.

          There’s a lot of information on them here, for anyone who wants to research it further:
          http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6989

      • I had read-not sure where- that they only hire WHITE PEOPLE, and preferably while males; and their “legal staff” is 100% white-with not a Negro, Asian or non-white Hispanic to be seen, or even interviewed.

        I never checked.

        (I think that they once or twice had religious groups on their hate list, because MEMBERSHIP WAS FOR THOSE OF THE RELIGION. DUH. DUH. DUH.

      • RonaldB:

        Your sentiment is good, but for the record:

        https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2016/active-hate-groups-united-states-2015

        *ACT for America
        Virginia Beach, VA

        American Defence League, The
        New York, NY

        *American Freedom Defense Initiative
        New York, NY

        *American Freedom Law Center
        Ann Arbor, MI

        *Atlas Shrugs
        New York, NY

        *Bare Naked Islam
        Marina del Rey, CA

        Bosch Fawstin
        New York, NY

        Bureau on American Islamic Relations
        Irving, TX

        Casa D’Ice Signs
        North Versailles, PA

        Center for Security Policy
        Washington, DC

        Christian Action Network
        Forest, VA

        Christian Guardians
        San Francisco, CA

        Citizens for National Security
        Boca Raton, FL

        Citizen Warrior
        Nashville, TN

        Counter Jihadist Coalition of Southern California
        Santa Monica, CA

        *David Horowitz Freedom Center
        Los Angeles, CA

        Faith Freedom
        Bellevue, WA

        Islam: Making a True Difference in the World — One Body at a Time
        Marietta, GA

        islam: the Religion of Peace (and a big stack of dead bodies)
        Marietta, GA

        Islamthreat.com
        Walnut Creek, CA

        *Jihad Watch**
        Sherman Oaks, CA

        Political Islam
        Nashville, TN

        Prophet of Doom
        Saint Louis, MO

        Radio Jihad
        New York, NY

        Religious Awareness Network
        Washington, DC

        Shoebat Foundation, The
        Newtown, PA

        Silver Bullet Gun Oil
        Courtland, VA

        Stop the Islamization of America (SIOA)
        New York, NY

        Stop the Islamization of the World
        Houston, TX

        Sultan Knish a blog by Daniel Greenfield
        New York, NY

        Straight Way and More, The
        Venice, FL

        Tennessee Freedom Coalition
        Nashville, TN

        United West, The
        Lake Worth, FL

        What Did Mohammad Do?
        Hemet, CA

        I have marked Jihad Watch with …**, and visited those with an initial *.

        The others – some I have heard of, some may be truly hate sites, but by including JW, those congenital idiots really shoot themselves in the foot.

        more…

        • I should have prefaced that prior comment:

          ANTI-MUSLIM (34) [Groups So-Designated by SPLC]

          Now for their listing of their prior enslavers:
          Moslem Hate Groups listed by SPLC, but hidden under the classification: “Other (53)”

          Jamaat al-Muslimeen (JAM)
          Jamaat al-Muslimeen (JAM) is a small Muslim organization based in Baltimore, Maryland, that promotes Holocaust denial and anti-Jewish conspiracy theories. Its leader, Dr. Kaukab Siddique, is an associate professor in the English department [!] at Lincoln University in Pennsylvania. [WHY is a HATEMONGER there?]

          It publishes a newspaper titled New Trend. Critics charge that the magazine promotes the work of David Irving and other Holocaust deniers as well as anti-semitic conspiracy theories.

          As-Sabiqun
          The As-Sabiqun ‎is an American Muslim organization under the leadership of founder Imam Abdul Alim Musa, based in Washington, D.C. with branches in Oakland (led by speaker and activist Amir Abdul Malik Ali), Philadelphia, Los Angeles, San Diego, and Sacramento. As-Sabiqun is identified as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

          Masjid Al Islam (Oakland)
          Masjid Al Islam houses a branch of As-Sabiqun called the Islamic Institute for Counter-Zionist American Psychological Warfare.

          Call that 2 or 3, versus 34, allegedly anti-moslem.
          We KNOW that the TRUTH is that those numbers are inverted, or worse.

          I would be amazed if there weren’t 100 or more ‘LESSER JIHADIST’ groups in the US,
          and further amazed if the SPLC didn’t know of them but says nothing about them.
          Further, all the so-called ‘anti-moslem’ groups, like JW, have just a single address, while ‘Nation of Islam’ has 79 chapters, and the NBPP has 18, AND a French Wing.
          Those two are listed under “Black Separatist – 180” [groups]

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Black_Panther_Party

          The New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense (NBPP) notes that NOT ALL of its members are members of the Nation of Islam, but…

          More…

        • Robert Spencer:

          Now for the KILLER, if this graph shows, or can be visited.

          https://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/general_hate_breakdown.png

          It shows the number of hate groups by year.
          The so-called ‘anti-moslem’ numbers are:

          2011 – 30
          2012 – 36
          2013 – 36
          2014 – 24
          2015 – 34

          On THIS page they absolutely ‘SHOUT’ in 96pt red type:

          https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map

          “42%
          Increase in total number of anti-Muslim hate groups up from 2014.”

          That is correct 34/24 is a 42% increase in one year.
          BUT. Looking at ALL the data shows it to be meaningless.
          I don’t believe any statistician would endorse their trumpeting.
          I don’t believe there is any statistical significance in that blip.

          I think that could be used to expose
          what crass dunderheads the SPLC are.
          It could be used to shoot them down,
          and anyone else foolish enough to use that ‘fact’.
          It shows their need to justify their money-grubbing.

          By the same token, BLACK Separatist groups
          have risen from 113 in 2014 to 180 in 2015,
          A SIXTY PERCENT INCREASE!
          With nary a word from the Sentient-Poverty ‘Law’ Center.

        • Read Sultan Knish-his essays are right on. AND THEY ARE NOT HATE FILLED- JUST THE FACTS

      • Thanks Huck Folder. I obviously didn’t search by keyword. I made the assumption that the initial list that showed up, without a keyword, was the entire group. Bad assumption.

        The paradox is that most of the people quoting the SPLC’s list of outcast groups simply don’t care about the facts of the situation.

  2. Another example of Leftist Hypocrisy-Ism referring to Muslim inspired Hate Crimes.

    They will do anything to hide their own hypocritical disgrace of not calling the San Bernardino a HATE CRIME.

  4. Potok said many people believed Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump when he said 25 percent of American Muslims support violent jihad, but serious polls — including one by the Pew Research Center — have shown the claim is false.

    Ah, and it features a link to the Pew poll:

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/

    Let me check what it says there.

    “While we did not ask people in Western nations about their views of ISIS”

    OK, let me see if I get Mr. Potok’s “logic”. Donald Trump said that 25% of American muslims support violent jihad but that is false because a poll in non-Western countries states that most people there have an unfavorable view of ISIS. Non-Western countries, not the US. ISIS, not violent jihad.

    Really? No one calls him out on his blatant dishonesty? Trump quoted from a poll from the Center for Security Policy showing that “25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as a part of the global jihad”. Potok quoted from a poll outside of the US and inquiring about ISIS, not jihad.

    • Angemon wrote:

      Potok said many people believed Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump when he said 25 percent of American Muslims support violent jihad, but serious polls — including one by the Pew Research Center — have shown the claim is false.
      …………………….

      Angemon, here’s the poll Trump cited:

      http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf

      “The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 25% of Muslim-Americans say that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as part of the ‘global Jihad'”.

      And the figures go up when asked if violence against those that insult the prophet Muhammad, the Qur’an, or Islamic faith is sometimes acceptable–29%.

      There are other alarming findings from this poll: 41% of Muslims in America believe that Jihad is an obligation for practicing Muslims.

      51% of Muslims in the US believe Muslims should be able to be governed according to Shari’ah.

      33% of Muslims in America believe that if Shari’ah conflicts with the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights, that Shari’ah should be supreme.

      Any sane Infidel should be alarmed by these figures–especially given the likelihood that many Muslims are apt to soft-pedal their views or even lie outright. The actual numbers are probably even worse.

      • Graven-I know that you don’t have the answer and probably would agree with me. But I will ask anyhow.

        IF THE 51% BELIEVE Muslims should be able to be governed according to Shari’ah.

        Why the hell don’t they go to countries that are governed by Sharia law?

        I AM GUESSING that they are NOT referring to Orthodox Jews, ( and asking for similar treatment). WHO IN CERTAIN MATTERS, GO BY RELIGIOUS LAW- WHEN NOT IN CONFLICT WITH SECULAR LAW. (For example, in areas of divorce- an Orthodox Jew will get a religious divorce ( called a “get”- and pronounced the same way) AS WELL AS A CIVIL DIVORCE.(iN THE US AND WESTERN COUNTRIES). I am guessing that they want Sharia and only Sharia.

        And if 25% beleive violence against Americans is justified, why can’t the Americans do the same to Muslims? (Wait, throwing an empty beer can-on a Friday or Saturday night- from a frat house e- near a Mosque or Islamic “community Center” is violence and islamophobia. But beheading a woman in Oklahoma is just work place violence.)

  5. Weird.

    I’ve seen studies that say there’s been a much bigger rise in “Heads up Their A**es” groups.

  6. SPLC is the biggest hate group in America.. They’re bigger than the KKK,BLM,Black Panthers,Neo Nazi combined

  7. Has Mark Potok read the Sira, the Koran (recommend reading it rearranged in CHRONOLOGICAL order), the hadiths, the canonical commentaries, Islamic history, the Sharia law manuals, modern texts on the theory and practice of jihad? No?

    Well, Robert Spencer has read them. So how does his not DOING THE BASIC READING LIST concerning jihad, qualify Mark Potok as an expert on Islam?

    It doesn’t.

    Mark Potok is talking through his hate. He has no idea of what Islam teaches.

    If the Southern Poverty Law Center wants someone to speak on Islamic subjects, it needs someone with basic knowledge of Islam, which Mark Potok is lacking.

    Mark Potok should be replaced in his present capacity and someone with a Islamic studies diploma should be hired.

  8. Southern Poverty Law Center blames San Bernardino jihad massacre on Pamela Geller
    ……………………………….

    Or, idiots blame Churchill for Hitler’s invasion of Poland and creation of death camps…

    Blaming someone who warns about Jihad for the existence of Jihad is sickeningly false. It is also all too common.

    But it makes no sense. Fifteen years ago, except for a few uncomfortable headlines about airplane hijackings and suicide bombings in Israel, most of us gave barely a passing thought to Jihad at all.

    I have to confess I’m not even sure I knew the word then.

    It was increasing Jihad violence that caused concern over Islam–not the other way around.

    More:

    “Domestic terrorism like the attack in San Bernardino last year during which 14 people were killed by two Muslim extremists are the propaganda work of anti-Muslim ideologues like Pamela Geller, the most visible and flamboyant person in the anti-Muslim movement, and the injection of hatred against Muslims, Potok said.”
    ……………………………….

    “Propaganda work”? Reading the above, you would not be able to figure out whether this was something trumped up by Geller that did not happen at all, or something attributed to Muslims who had nothing to do with it. Instead, it was an *actual* Jihad terror attack.

    More:

    So the SPLC’s Mark Potok would have us believe that if people like Pamela Geller would just stop their “anti-Muslim” propaganda, all would be well and all manner of thing would be well: Islamic jihad murderers such as Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik, you see, are just driven to it by “Islamophobia.” If we would just be nice to Muslims, then all the jihad would cease.
    ……………………………….

    More confusion of the whole “chicken and egg” thing.

    And further–even if you are fairly easygoing, there are probably things that really irk you.

    For one thing, I am really irked that Anti-Jihadists are regularly held responsible by tools like this one for Jihad terror.

    And yet, for some reason I haven’t decided to go on a violent rampage murdering my coworkers as a result–nor have any other Anti-Jihadists.

    Why might that be? Could it have something to do with the fact that we don’t follow a violent creed whose “god” demands bloodshed?

    Not according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

    And, as noted, if Muslims really are as thin-skinned as SPLC implies, isn’t that *itself* a problem?

    No–it’s all the fault of Ms. Geller and the other “Islamophobes”. If only they’d shut up, there would be no more violent Jihad…

    Or at least, there would be no one really talking about it, which for the SPLC is just as good.

    • GI wrote: “if Muslims really are as thin-skinned as SPLC implies, isn’t that *itself* a problem?”

      The hypersensitive rage of Muslims to any criticism is considered a VIRTUE in Islam and it is called “GHIRA” or “GHEERA” or “GHEIRA”.

      Ghira is variously defined as: – self-respect, pride of one’s ‘honor’, protective jealousy (especially as regards religion or women) and it is a feeling of fury with great anger when one’s honour and prestige is challenged or injured, especially by a kafir.

      -Omar Ibn al Khattab said : “Kill who ever does not have ghira.”
      -Pukhtana taught that death is preferable to a life without honor.

      The following post (from a Muslim in Australia) expresses protecting the Prophet’s reputation and honor by rage:

      “they want to make us give up on our culture, our islamic heritage, history, ideals and virtures in exchange for their kufr. so if the muslims dont respond to such attacks then we have lost.

      the prophet pbuh is the base for our deen. he is the chosen messenger. if we dont feel gheerah for him then you have no gheerah for your deen. even if you dont go and kill the person who said such things at least feel gheerah. get angry for the sake of Allah, and dont fear the blame of the blamers. if you go an insult these kuffars mothers they change their tune. they dont say free speach.

      we love the prophet pbuh more then our own lives, or at least were supposed too. we try to justify not defending him in the name of maslaha, or dawah ect. first off america is darul harb, clear cut. there isint supposed to be dawah in darul harb. and if there was no war, dawah still dosent justify not responding.

      if i remeber correctly one muslim man, may Alllah accept him, KILLED A MAN WHO NAMED HIS DOG MUHAMMAD. so on his trial date, when the judge asked him if he wanted to applogize, he said no, and that next time somone thinks about naming their dog muhammad, he will think twice. and thats what happend, nobody has named their dog muhammad since then. bad press? yeah, if you judge it by how the kuffar judge it.

      but we are muslims so maybe its about time we start judging things in accordange to the scales of Allah.”

      I would like to know what Mark Potok thinks about the Islamic doctrine regarding ‘ghira’…the rageful protection of Islamic honor? For it? Or against it, Mr. Potok?

      • “they want to make us give up on our culture, our islamic heritage, history, ideals and virtures in exchange for their kufr. so if the muslims dont respond to such attacks then we have lost.”

        We want the Australians to give up THEIR culture, their British/Christian/Civilized heritage, history, ideals and virtues, in exchange for dhimmitude, so if the Australians don’t respond to such attacks they are lost.

        “…its about time we start judging things in accordange to the scales of Allah.”

        Fishy

  9. Robert Spencer wrote: “his execrable viciousness in painting a huge target on Pamela Geller’s back”

    This is very close to soliciting murder.

    Mark Potok wishes apparently to threaten with death anyone who differs from his opinions. Soliciting murder of a political opponent is the definition of totalitarianism or fascism.

  10. Please teach this moron Quran word for word – he will still say it is the work of Islamophobic Pamela Geller!! Some people cannot tolerate telling the truth about Islam and Muslims!

  11. If Mark Potok condemned a man who teased a pit bull terrier with a stick until the animal savagely bit him, then I would think it was a reasonable argument. The court of Maryland ruled that pit bulls are ‘inherently dangerous’.

    By analogy, Mark Potok is arguing that Muslims cannot use reason to respond to a criticism of their religion, but Muslims must lack some inherent self-control (only required if you are not Muslim) to refrain from murder. Muslims have to kill whenever they are provoked with cartoons.

    So Mark Potok has implied that Muslims are ‘inherently dangerous’…you can’t talk to them as if they are ‘normal humans’…Muslims are like pit bull terriers…’inherently dangerous’.

    Mark Potok has insulted all Muslims.

    • But they are a bunch of evil,ungrateful ,blood-letting;inherently wicked,grossly cruel;socially negative,obtuse-minded,sadistic and animalistic cockroaches.
      If you ever come across a “good” one ,which is a very rare thing in life,his acts of kindness towards you is for an appointed time;where he will trap and slay you.
      These hammer-head sharks are the worst form of evil that one can ever think of.

  12. Resistance to tyranny is a duty of the free. This includes fighting the unalterably evil and violent elementary commands in Islam to rule all the world and everything therein.

    • I think that the American Freedom Defense Initiative
      and the American Freedom Law Center
      should file for deformation on behalf of themselves
      and all others who are tarred with the same brush,
      wrongfully and egregiously libelled, and possibly slandered.

      There should be enormous buck$ in compensation,
      even if it destroys the Southern Poverty Hate Center.

  14. As near as I can remember it, Fyodor Dostoevsky wrote that “Not only is he who committed the crime guilty but all those who wanted the deed done and were glad when it was done are equally guilty.” By that standard, Pamela Geller is as guiltless as anyone could be.

    It’s sort of humorous and ironic that Robert quoted Julian Norwich’s “all manner of things will be well” when getting in between two combatants in this Jewish civil war between the “Fightin’ FU Jews” like Pamela, and the “sniveling stand in line and hope it’s real water coming out of the shower head” communist pukes like Potok.

    • While it is true that at some point in Mr. Potok’s life he was Jewish and in theory considered to be Jewish by others today; I will surmise that he does not brand himself this way or considers it to be irrelevant. Although I may consider this to be a sad end result there is no better Anti-Semite or tool that twists his own people into something they are not, examples not limited to; Sid & Max Blumenthal quaint keep it in the family.
      Mr. Potok’s actions in deed (words published) can result, G-d forbid, in murder and this clown would turn around and blame the victim for causing the perpetrator to go to jail. This is exactly how these freaks think or don’t think.

  15. That group is a true gang of tools. If Mohammedism ever triumphs, they would be among the first dhimmis executed.

  18. Mark Potok must be a very confused person. For Pamela Geller and other people like her are not at all to blame for the hideous evil of Islamic terrorism , in San Bernardino or elsewhere. For those two jihadists who engaged in the murderous violence of Islam’s jihad, did so, because the “‘sacred scripture “of Islam the ,Koran instructs in such brutal and murdering actions As found in ,for example 4:89. 9:5,111. Furthermore, the Koran instructs in 47:4 “Whenever you encounter the unbelievers strike off their heads until you make a great slaughter among them…” Let’s face it using firearms as the Muslim /jihadists at San Bernardino did can sure make a greater “slaughter among them” then a sword can. Moreover, the Koran also teaches in 9:123. “O you how believe ! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you….” Those two jihadist/Muslims i,in San Bernardino , in the vicious action by all that shooting at the non-Muslim “close’ to them did show them “harshness.” Harshness too the extreme. So Mark Potok needs to have a good reality check to stop being so very confused.

    • Excellent comment. “So Mark Potok needs to have a good reality check to stop being so very confused. ” Confused” is the polite word…..he is very misdirected. If he knew about the commands to misdirect,( deception) he might feel betrayed and get curious to open the book….but then he might have a difficult time to continue his work.

  20. For Mark Potok, Muslims are thus not even fully human.

    I can’t argue with that.

  21. Wait, he’s accusing the San Bernardino killers of being believers of the “Religion of Peace”?

    Islamophob!!!

  24. Typical liberal reaction – always blaming others for one’s own actions – Muslims NEED to be held accountable for their actions.

  25. I always appreciate it when Pamela is visible, especially the bikini photos. I haven’t seen flamboyant yet and I’ve been following her site for some time now. Pamela please do some flamboyant pics, please. BTW mr potok is not an authority on hate groups or speech or he would have noticed islam heads the list.

  26. Robert,

    I think Pamela Geller says she is anti-Islam, not anti-Muslim?

    So when they say that “Anti-Muslim organizations have been growing”

    do they mean anti-Islam or anti-Muslim?

  27. Robert spencer

    You should get a noble prize for the first two paragraphs ( your comments)-key point Mark Potok says Muslims cannot think for themselves.

    and also:

    “hatred toward Muslims”

    What is hatred?behavior, speech?writing?

    If it is “hate speech” what is hate speech? Once we know what it is, who decides what is and what is not hate speech?

    • Sidney Penny,
      Why, the answer is to be found in George Orwell’s 1984, which defined it low these many decades ago. He called called it, “Newspeak”. Today, it’s known as, “Political Correctness”, exemplified by its ever increasing parameters defining forbidden, “Hate Speech”.

    • Sidney Penny,
      Why, dear friend, the answer is to be found in George Orwell’s 1984, which defined it low these many decades ago. He called called it, “Newspeak”. Today, it’s known as, “Political Correctness”, exemplified by its ever increasing parameters defining forbidden, “Hate Speech”.

      • [Addendum: Sorry for the duplication. Somehow the posting protocols convinced me that my first attempt didn’t “Take”, so to speak and I “Try, try, tried again”.

  28. The entity calling itself the “Southern” “Poverty” “Law” “Center” has been getting away with this fraud for far too long. Intelligent observers have known for decades that it is a communist-backed shakedown operation.

    Its self-awarded name S-P-L-C- is, of course, a blatant and very clever fraud that should NEVER go unchallenged. At a minimum, quotation marks around each word should be used to indicate that each of the implied claim is a self-serving lie.

    In actuality, SPLC stands for Shakedown, Propaganda, Lies and Corruption.

    • One wonders how an organization, ostensibly organized around poverty in the Southern States of the United States, has strayed so far outside of its mandate as to be recognizable as a foreign propaganda machine and completely unrecognizable as having anything to do with Southern poverty.

      What is next, a treatise on why some Muslims join ISIS authored at NASCAR?

  29. I would ask this of the S.P.L.C.’s, “Alpha Hotel” (and/or “Spawn of Unwedded Bliss”) author the following question: When are you going to unequivocally condemn – without reservation – the Genocide of 1.5 million Armenians by the (“Islamic, Sharia State” of the) “Ottoman Empire” a century ago? And if, for some (not so) unfathomable reason, you try and dismiss that unforgivable act as irrelevant to today’s “Reality”, please explain the, what to me is, “A Distinction Without a Difference”, with the current actions in the world by the devote adherents to, the “Religion of Peace”?

  30. “Pennsylvania ranks fifth on the list of states with the most hate groups — 40 in 2015, up from 38 in 2014, according to the Center.”

    In 2014, Mr. Potok assigned 40 “hate groups” to New Jersey, making that state number four in the nation and leading Mark Pitcavage, Intelligence Director for the Anti-Defamation League, to tell the South Jersey Times publicly that Potok’s numbers were “wildly inflated,” and that his company routinely “lists groups where there are no groups, or only one or two individuals.”

    http://wp.me/pCLYZ-p9

    This year, after Pitcavage’s public shaming, New Jersey’s “hate group” count was magically cut in half, from 40 to 21, overnight.

    It’s pretty sad, Mr. Potok, when your closest ally in the Hate Industry calls you out as a liar in public.

    PS: Of Pennsylvania’s 40 “hate groups” for 2015, Mr. Potok couldn’t come up with a location for 7 of them, six others are one-man websites and perhaps the most pathetic “hate group” on Potok’s map is actually an Italian restaurant on the outskirts of Pittsburgh. The threat to the nation is palpable.

    And, according to Mr. Potok’s own numbers, Black “hate groups” outnumber every other category in PA, respectively, just as they do nationwide, according to his company’s “Hate Map.”

    • RE: Italian restaurant- they could put some laxatives in their pizzas or meatballs and spaghetti dinners, and cause major sewage problems, if they sell enough of the items, at the (approximate) same time-as take outs/delivered.

      Only threat I could see from a restaurant.

      (Sarc).

  31. Well I just wrote a long email to the SPLC pointing out that just being in ‘tolerance & understanding’ mode will achieve nothing if the target of your caring is NOT in the same mode ! I am not a hater, just a wary, life-experience-taught human who knows other humans are capable of disgusting behavior and that to be real we have to take that into consideration, and there is nothing like RELIGION for giving humans a big excuse for their extreme actions – almost nothing else will cause it !!
    Active hatred achieves nothing, but knowing who your enemies may be is healthy. The West cannot afford to just be loving & caring and allow the enemy to stomp all over our culture. I do NOT want to belong to that culture, do not want to have to listen to a wailing mosque every day, or be dressed in suffocating clothing or scarves because the males of my society say so, nor have my grandchildren threatened with having their private parts ‘trimmed’ to the satisfaction of some nazi-like cult leader !
    The whole thing is gross, inhuman and threatening. We need to be determined to prevent it infiltrating our culture.

  32. ‘Anti-Muslim’ is the ‘Allahu Akbar’ of the left…It is designed to inflame the passions of Muslims by making the academic personal,,,Th e use of anti-Muslim by the irresponsible, is intended to incite Muslims to violence, mayhem and murder,,,The use of anti-Muslim should be classed as hate speech,,,…’ Way down deep’, Potok is a Mahoundian…The SPLC is his mosque…

  33. America and every nation should require all immigrants to learn our language and use it,, learn our culture and forget theirs, drop any religion where hatred is taught to everyone from age three and those who don’t like the rules should be deported after 18 months.The world is being raped by muslims and we should not accept it one moment longer. Nothing good comes from a muslim until he becomes a full fledged American patriot, which is rare.

  34. “Domestic terrorism like the attack in San Bernardino last year during which 14 people were killed by two Muslim extremists are the propaganda work of anti-Muslim ideologues”

    Does that fool even think that this phrase in any way makes any kind of sense, from grammatical, logical, and all the way to truth? Unlikely.

    These criminals should be sued into poverty and disgrace.

  35. I’m thinking I would blame it on the people with the guns, or maybe that’s just me.

  36. Freedom of speech and press is a wonderful thing. But. It’s really incredible that SPLC is allowed to speak such lies like that.

  37. Mark Potok is just as delusional as the adherents of the Islamic cult.

    From his perspective I suppose then by a matter of logical extension, Islamic State is also a direct causal byproduct of Pamela Geller too? Gee Pam, I had no idea you had such far reaching global influence.

    • Zub, BOTH–JIMMY CARTER AND FIDEL CASTRO, STATED, UNEQUIVOCALLY, THAT ISIS AKA ISIL, ETC WAS STARTED BY ISRAEL.

      Who are we, mere mortals, to question their superior knowledge. (Sarc.)

  38. It’s no big surprise that they’ve deliberately gotten it backwards.

    Their literally preposterous title says it all: “POVERTY CAUSES CRIME!” When in fact – as a quick look at all the so-called “Communist” (i.e: gangster extortion leading to slavery) countries proves –
    CRIME CAUSES POVERTY.

  39. The San Bernadino massacre is part of the overwhelming evidence that Pamela is right. The Southern Poverty Law Center cannot admit that. Therefore they have to blame it on Pamela Geller. A great example of the psychotic leftist mind at work.

  41. There is no such thing as a Muslim extremist,every Muslim is a potential killer without an iota of mercy in him/her;that is why a “friendly” Muslim can change in a twinkling of an eye and rain bullets on a group of friends or neighbors in no time at all.
    Thus,we should not make that mistake of categorizing them as extremists and moderates,there is no such thing as that.Once a Muslim;always a potential murderer is it.
    There is no such thing as a “good”Muslim,they are all the same,murderers,killers,assassins and very evil ones for that matter.

  42. The ignorance of people wanting to blame anyone but the terrorists themselves, shows the true denial of what radical Islamic terrorist is & their demonic agenda on mankind. Shame on anyone who ignores the evil of islam. Get a life Californians, Islamic terrorists live in your state.

  43. San Bernardino attacks the work of Pam Geller islamophobe rethoric…

    Someone should tell this moron that if islamophobia is increasing, there is a reason behind it.

    This reason is the muslim behaviour around the world.
    They go around raping women, beheading us kafirs in the streets, shooting at us, flying planes into buildings, and that is all according to islamic teachings.

    After all this we had concerns about islam,
    therefore we have anti-islam bloggers such Pam.

    Potok is saying that San Bernardino attack is the work of Pam IN THE FIRST PLACE, while ignoring the reason why Pam is anti-islam.

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