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That “Low-Level Hum”? It May Be Your Conscience.

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Suspicion of Islam is not a bad thing. It is a sign of moral, mental and spiritual health. Especially when it comes from among Muslims.

In the recent story, “Backlash from Brussels terrorism frustrates Muslims in Maine,” by Matt Byrne, Portland Press Herald, one of the Muslims interviewed, Ahmed Abdiraham, described a “low-level hum of suspicion that permeates [Muslims’] everyday lives.” 

Mr. Abdiraham attributes that “low-level hum” to the “anger and hostility displayed nationally during the political campaign season,” which he claims stokes fear and anger against Muslims.

I wonder if that “low-level hum” which Mr. Abdiraham hears might not be coming from a different source. 

Here’s why.

At the very outset of the article, Matt Byrne frames the story in a deeply personal way:

When the images of the terrorist attack in Brussels began to flood across Ahmed Abdiraham’s television screen last week, his mind went in two directions.

First he thought: Please, don’t let it be in the name of Islam.

Then, like so many Muslims in Maine, he was reminded [of the horrific violence] of his own past…

… “That happened to me”, said Abdiraham… who fled Somalia’s violent civil war before resettling in Maine’s largest city.

There are two revealing lessons to be drawn from this dramatic and honest response to the horrific Belgium jihad attacks:

First, before any evidence had been presented as to the nature of the Brussels attacks, or the identity of the attackers, Mr. Abdiraham’s immediate instinct was to suspect the attacks were committed “in the name of Islam”.

And secondly, that Mr. Abdiraham’s immediate suspicion of Islam being the cause was based upon his own experience.

Dear Mr. Abdiraham, God’s peace be with you. That “low-level hum of suspicion” you hear? It is coming from within you. 

You reacted the same way most non-Muslims reacted: you suspected Islam was at the root of the Brussels attacks.

You —and we — were correct.

But that suspicion is not a bad thing. It is a sign of moral, mental — and even spiritual — health.

Your suspicion of Islam is a welcome sign that your normal human conscience is still functioning, and has not yet been completely supplanted by the commands of Allah, commands such as these, which inspire and direct Muslim terrorists all around the globe:

“And kill them wherever you come upon them… Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s; then if they give over, there shall be no enmity save for evildoers.” (Qur’an 2:191-193)

“I shall cast into the unbelievers’ hearts terror; so strike above the necks, and strike every finger of them!” (Qur’an 8:12)

“Then, when the sacred months are over, kill the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayer, and pay the alms, then let them go their way; Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.” (Qur’an 9:5)

“Allah has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of Allah; they kill, and are killed.” (Qur’an 9:111)

“When you meet the unbelievers, strike their necks…” (Qur’an 47:4)

Now, what does this mean? Where do we go from here, Mr. Abdiraham? 

I think the answer is obvious, though it may initially pain you to confront it.

I even think that you suspect the answer, even though you dread to admit it.

The tragic truth is that you are beginning to suspect that you belong to a false religion, and follow a false prophet, which, for all its claims to be a religion of peace, commands its followers to fight, kill, distrust, subjugate, behead, crucify and wage war against non-Muslims.

Mr. Abdiraham, that “low-level hum” you hear is your conscience, calling to you, begging you, pleading with you, to wake up from your long journey through a desert religion of darkness and delusion.

We stand here waiting for you, Mr. Abdiraham, with open arms, hoping you will listen to your conscience, leave the darkness, and come to the light. 

We want to see you set free from that “low-level hum”, free and fully alive. This is our hope for you, ourselves and all people. For as one of the early Christians wrote, “The glory of God is a human being fully alive.”

And without a low-level hum.

_____________

Ralph Sidway is an Orthodox Christian researcher and writer, and author of Facing Islam: What the Ancient Church has to say about the Religion of Muhammad. He operates the Facing Islam blog.

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  1. That’s a very kind and generous interpretation of the sentence. When I read it I just thought he was insane.

  3. Mr. Spencer went right to the heart of this man’s own denial about islam. I can only wonder how many good muslims out there are questioning their own religion, wondering if it’s time to leave. Maybe as the hum of sanity gets louder in opposition to their religion they’ll begin to see the light. Muhammad is no one to emulate, he’s a “best example” for bad morals and ignorance. And allah is not a god of love, but a sinister fabrication of that man’s low character. If you want a good example then turn to Christ, he was a pretty cool guy who taught good morals, love, and compassion. Instead of working from an attitude of superiority over infidels consider a Christ-like unconditional acceptance of other’s fundamental right to choose their own path to god. Wow, aren’t I revolutionary?! Not really, just following the commonsense values our Judeo-Christian heritage teaches. That’s why I know we’re wiser. Because we’re building a belief system that values equally the rights of all people. We’ve already walked through the valley of darkness, too many have suffered to get us here. We won’t turn back the clock for islam, not when it means bigotry, hatred, and murder.

    • Muslims who pray several times a day are thoroughly brainwashed to hate Christianity and be closed-minded to its messages.

      However, it is hard to imagine that with the daily publication of jihad violence from around the world that Muslims are not experiencing severe cognitive dissonance. Moreover, since one Muslim in six favors jihad violence in opinion surveys, every single Muslim knows someone who supports jihad violence. There must be discussions and arguments about jihad in every Muslim family.

      Hatred of kafirs is a duty for all Muslims enshrined in the doctrine called ‘Al Walaa wal Baraa’. The question I want to ask all Muslims is this: ‘When does a Muslim know he hates the dirty kafirs ENOUGH to please Allah?’ When is one’s hatred ENOUGH HATRED?

      • I feel the same way, they’re brainwashed to reject Christianity’s superior message for their murderous warlord, muhammad. But like you say, there must be some discussions going on out there among muslims about the “virtue” of hating or killing non-believers for the faith. There has to be some doubts about trusting in a prophet and god who are so unabashed with their violent hatred of non-believers. So you ask a good question, just how much should muslims hate the kaffir to be good muslims? If their own “best example” and god killed for the faith, then shouldn’t they too? And that dilemma must be a big problem for some muslims, torn between wanting to serve their god but knowing it’s contrary to their own innate desire to be good. We’re seeing the ugly result of that inner conflict all over the world, everything from dangerous enclaves to cutting off heads. They’re too brainwashed to heal themselves. We help them best by staying true to our own values of equality, freedom, and justice for all–No sharia. Our society has finally made it to the 12th grade of good moral sense, slavery an apartheid be gone. I see no reason to go back to kindergarten for them.

        • “No sharia”. Right on, Jerry.

          ” Our society has finally made it to the 12th grade of good moral sense, slavery an apartheid be gone. I see no reason to go back to kindergarten for them.” Great analogy!!

  4. I was just wondering why would a muslim, who believes that Islam is the religion of peace, first thought on hearing of the Brussels bombings be “please don’t let it be in the name of Islam”.
    Does it mean that he is actually starting to doubt the religion of peace meme.

  5. Ahmed Abdiraham obviously cannot fathom the implication of the TAQIYYA DOCTRINE of Islam: no Muslim may be expected ever to tell the truth to a dirty kafir. With such a pernicious doctrine as TAQIYYA, how would Ahmed Abdiraham expect there to any reaction to Muslims but mistrust. It is foolish to trust people who truly believe in taqiyya.

    Moreover, has Ahmed Abdiraham actually read the Koran in English or Urdu or whatever his mother tongue is? Has he studied the interpretations of the Koran in the canonical commentaries and Sharia law? If so, he is using TAQIYYA now.

    Islam excuses Muslims from having a conscience about the suffering they must inflict on ‘others’.

    The Koran is a troop motivator whose purpose is to remove the concept of atrocity from a Muslim’s mind.

    Ahmed Abdiraham knows that already.

  6. Reading this discussion of Muslim perfidy due to the duty to ‘outwit’ the dirty kafirs, I am reminded of Thomas Hobbes’s profound words about making contracts where one side has no fear of reneging:

    “For he that performeth first has no assurance the other will perform after, because the bonds of words are too weak to bridle men’s ambition, avarice, anger, and other passions, without the fear of some coercive power; which in the condition of mere nature, where all men are equal, and judges of the justness of their own fears, cannot possibly be supposed. And therefore he which performeth first does but betray himself to his enemy, contrary to the right he can never abandon of defending his life and means of living”.

    Since Muslims are playing by different rules, the rules of JIHAD (deceit, falsity, assassination, truce-breaking), the only rational course with a Muslim would be to try and gain advantage by breaking a truce first.

    The Islamic doctrines themselves create the conditions of zero trust that Ahmed Abdiraham is complaining about. Islam creates the hatred, the perfidy, the lying and then blames the victims of Islam for not trusting Muslims.

    • Very apt referencing of Thomas Hobbes, moritmer. And yes indeed, Islam itself is fully responsible for why Islam should not be trusted in the first place. Clear as crystal I would contend. Nothing opaque here at all.

  7. How much proof of inherent incitement to violence in Islam does a supposedly peaceful Muslim need before they declare their apostasy from Islam? If the bar is impossible to meet then they must only be jerking your chain.

  8. ” … Islam excuses Muslims from having a conscience about the suffering they must inflict on ‘others’.

    The Koran is a troop motivator whose purpose is to remove the concept of atrocity from a Muslim’s mind.”

    helpful observations mortimer. and brings forth another:

    and so then, SHARIA introduces a NEW LAW making the individual to be a slave (Muslim) to the allah god of islam. the new law supplants that which is written on the hearts of man by Yahweh..

    however, the slave can in no way complete the demands of the new law (i.e. the will of the allah god of islam). the slave stands condemned both under Moses and SHARIA , but the slave could be delivered and renewed by faith in the Anointed One of Yahweh as He brings true redemption..

    the slave encounters even more guilt. the new law is not of faith (i.e. in the Christ as fulfilling the will of Yahweh expressed in the 10 Commandments – who removes guilt and grants a clean conscience.)

    and with each infraction against the SHARIA, the slave encounters more guilt and the pique of conscience and fear

    the hum of suspicion becomes loud indeed

  9. Cute article, but it is delusional. The hum is most likely real, rather than imagined, and is probably caused by shooting AK 47s w.o proper ear protecton.

  11. “But that suspicion is not a bad thing. It is a sign of moral, mental — and even spiritual — health.”

    Yes!! That suspicion, instinct, gut reaction, inner voice, is a gift. Without it, we would be re-learning the same old lessons over and over and over….Listen to it! It’s not always right, but it’s an input worth paying attention to.

    • Islam’s constant messages of ‘OTHERING’ stifle the still, small voice of conscience.

      The conscience of Muslims becomes so dead that they feel no disturbance within after they have slaughtered the disbelievers. They feel a glow of satisfaction that they have proved their faith in Allah by killing and exterminating ‘the worst of beasts’ (kafirs are worse than vermin). Muslims who commit jihad, assassination and genocide are doing the will of Allah and feel how greatly they will be rewarded with celestial palaces, rivers wine, finery and eternal sex with celestial slaves.

      Every part of Islam involves slavery. Who said slavery was a ‘good thing’.

      Islam succeeds when no inner voice expresses reserves about inflicting pain on ‘others’. Islam causes collective sociopathy such as we see in ISIS.

  12. I do not pretend to be a doctor of any kind – but that low-level hum of suspicion is most likely the result of Muslims whacking their prefrontal cortex against their prayer rugs five + times a day.

    Now, the prefrontal cortex region of the brain is responsible for the modern term clear thinking. In other words, its technical phrase “executive function” is responsible for the following: differentiate among conflicting thoughts, determine good and bad, better and best, same and different, future consequences of current activities, working toward a defined goal, prediction of outcomes, expectation based on actions, and social “control.” (Wikipedia)

    Since most of us at JW are educated enough to know what usually happens to people who whack their heads against hard surface such as walls and floors – it follows that these Muslims probably need to stop doing what they are because they are inflicting a serious amount of damage unto themselves in the name of “Allah.”

    Low-level hum?

    That is what Muslims hear as the result of their prefrontal cortices turning into mush.

  14. We are all made in His image and likeness. That’s why we have conscience. But we are imperfect copies of Him, Thus, we can still be led astray through brainwashing.

  15. That “Low-Level Hum”? It May Be Your Conscience.

    Suspicion of Islam is not a bad thing. It is a sign of moral, mental and spiritual health.
    …………………………….

    Very true, Great line from Ralph Sidway.

    More:

    Especially when it comes from among Muslims.
    …………………………….

    Unfortunately, Ahmed Abdiraham was probably more concerned about this “making Islam look bad” than he was actually disturbed by Jihad savagery.

    He is the director of the Maine Muslim Community Center in Portland.

    They have been victim-mongering for a long time. This, from 2011:

    “Muslim Center vandalized after death of bin Laden”

    http://portland.wcsh6.com/news/news/muslim-center-vandalized-after-death-bin-laden/63656

    A spokesman said “that Osama bin Laden created a lot of problems and suffering for Muslim people”. Never mind his murdering thousands of Americans.

    I’m afraid the idea that many of these Muslims are about to experience any sort of conscience is rather unlikely.

    In fact, his main concern, as he says in the article cited by Ralph Sidway, is that some candidates are warning about the threat of Islam.

  16. I rarely weigh in on the comments here at JW (perhaps laziness on my part, or fear of revealing my ignorance!), but I wish to thank everyone for the discussions. From getting into the question of “conscience,” to taqiyya and jihad doctrine, to some laugh-out-loud humor, this is a great thread.

    My personal hope is that we can retain enough good will to continue to believe that at least a few (if not a billion) Muslims may have their consciences (re)awakened by (as mortimer called it) the “severe cognitive dissonance” of seeing more and more of their co-religionists actively following Muhammad and the Koran and becoming monsters and savages as a result.

    Can good come from evil? That’s beyond my pay scale to say. But if Muslims leave Islam because of Brussels, Paris, San Bernardino, Chattanooga, Ft Hood, 9/11, etc. ad nauseum, if they wake up and see Islam for what it is, then we can say that that good is the proper response to evil.

    However, if Muslims persist in denouncing our criticism of jihad doctrine, sharia and Islamic supremacism, then we know they have a deadened conscience and are on the side of the jihadis. We can hope for them to wake up, but Islam is a powerful control system.

    It helps to remember that Allah himself explicitly tries to overrule the Muslim’s individual conscience, in Koran 2:216: “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.”

    Islam sets up a meta-conscience, a divine super-ego which sets out to overrule the believer’s rational thought, moral reasoning, and simple conscience, that inner voice which knows good from bad. It uses divine promises and divine threats to do so. Islam’s control system is dysfunctional at its core.

    It’s pretty obvious: The human conscience is why Islam needs the death penalty for apostasy.

    “If they [Muslims] had gotten rid of the punishment [often death] for apostasy, Islam would not exist today.” — Yusuf al-Qaradawi, head of the Muslim Brotherhood and one of the most respected leaders of the Sunni world, as stated on Egyptian television.

    • Brilliant comment, Mr. Sidway. I like your blog, as well. (Didn’t know you had one.)

    • Ralph Sidway wrote:

      It helps to remember that Allah himself explicitly tries to overrule the Muslim’s individual conscience, in Koran 2:216: “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.”
      ………………………..

      Yes–I’ve always found that Sura *very* telling. There are many Hadith like it, as well:

      “Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar: I heard the Apostle of Allah, (PBUH) say: When you enter into the inah transaction [become traders], hold the tails of oxen [become cattlemen], are pleased with agriculture [become farmers], and give up conducting jihad (struggle in the way of Allah). Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original religion.
      –Sunan Abu Dawud Book 23 Number 3455

      Even in barbaric Dark Ages Arabia many men had to be threatened and coerced to continually wage violent Jihad. Note that a Muslim is not even considered a true Muslim unless he is waging Jihad.

      And thank you, Mirren–I didn’t know Ralph Sidway had a blog, either.

      Here’s the link:

      http://facingislam.blogspot.com/

      Especially good are the articles on where devoutness leads for Christians vs. Muslims:

      “Devout Catholics ‘Inevitably Led Toward Being Like Mother Teresa,’ Devout Muslims Led To Jihad”

      And “Europe’s Long, Dark Future”, which includes a shockingly honest cover of a Polish magazine about the Muslim rapefugee crisis.

      Lots more important stuff there. Check it out.

      • ”And thank you, Mirren–I didn’t know Ralph Sidway had a blog, either.”

        I can’t take credit for that, graven, it’s at the end of Mr. Sidway’s article. 🙂

        • Oops–I missed that, Mirren. Thanks for pointing it out, anyway, or I would have missed it.

      • “Devout Catholics ‘Inevitably Led Toward Being Like Mother Teresa,’ Devout Muslims Led To Jihad”

        Great article and so true. Many of my childhood friends and neighbors were moderate Muslims. We were always terrified of our devout Muslim neighbors.

        Also, Catholic saints are those who lived in obedience to God’s will and are now in heaven for eternity. Some of them died because they were persecuted/killed for their faith.

        Saints in Islam, on the other hand, are those who killed themselves while killing innocents people.

  17. Any truth in the rumor that there is a media heading floating around out there that reads: ‘Muslim community fears backlash in the wake of tomorrow’s terrorist attacks.’?

  19. This dividing of humanity by religion has got to stop.
    Just because Islãm intends to kill all infidels does not make other religions to be ok.
    “The glory of God is a human being fully alive”
    is simply pushing one’s favourite fairy tales’ main character as being the creator of a “human being fully alive”
    Most if not all religions lay claim to the same, therefore each religion is saying other religions are wrong.
    A human being fully alive is of Earth, no God necessary or involved, unless Earth is God. Simple common sense.

    • No,simple common bigotry on your part. And the hypocrisy in you comment about ‘other religions are all wrong’ which is exactly what you are guilty of, with your own low grade religion.

  20. Beware of the low level hiss, when Islam’s Serpent slithers up from his dark abyss.

  21. Wot i mean is that an idea of a God was needed to get morality underway.
    We have the morality now. The bathwater ‘God’ can be throw out now.
    I don’t see the problem except for the constant clinging to an idea that was a tool of moral evolution, that is now causing trouble because all religions claim that the idea of their god cannot be questioned as it may seem that one is questioning their deep evolved morality.
    Something like that.

    • Pitiable concept, very poorly expressed. The highest murder rate committed by governments, has been 100,000,000 in single century, and that was by atheistic governments. If you leave islam out of the picture, then atheists are the most blood thirsty group in human history….

  23. ”Just because Islãm intends to kill all infidels does not make other religions to be ok.”

    What a witless moral equivalencing remark.

    What ‘other religions’ have, in their scriptures, open-ended commands to murder those who don’t subscribe to their beliefs ?

    None. *Only* islam.

    And why the animus against those who have a religious faith ? I don’t have any religious faith myself, but I bear no animosity towards those who do, neither do I automatically assume their premise that there is a God, or gods, is wrong. (Except for islam and its adherents).

    ”Wot i mean is that an idea of a God was needed to get morality underway.
    We have the morality now. The bathwater ‘God’ can be throw out now.”

    I’ll charitably assume you have some idea of what you mean, yourself.

  24. Is there any way of contacting republican candidate, John Kaicsick?
    In the town hall just a couple of days ago he shamelessly speed spouted a democratic rhetoric saying ” …. The religion of Islam has been hijacked…. ” How can anyone with even half s brain think that Islam could be hijacked?
    Some serious education about the true Islam is pass due for every one living on this planet….
    I wish we could get Robert’s message to everyone.

  25. In the long run there is never compromise in Islam and a reasonable stand is to reject all aspects of religious Islam, social Islam, legal Islam and political Islam, completely, with no thoughts of compromise or hope for revision (mistakenly called reform).

    • Marken, it is not only a “reasonable stand” but it is a righteous stand, obeying God’s will as the apostle Paul tells us: “Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said, ‘I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.'” (2 Cor. 6) The pope himself is not paying attention to this.

  26. Akif Lam Mim…When that him starts forming words, watch out for Satanic verses…
    That’s what happened to Mahound…One day he was listening to his hum, and Satanic verses came pouring out of him…

  27. #Suspicion of Islam is not a bad thing. It is a sign of moral, mental and spiritual health……………

    WHO THE UTTER BRAIN DEAD ZOMBIEES SAYS LIKE THAT ………………….

    Spreading hate/grudge between people prohibited:

    49: 12. O you who believe! Avoid much suspicion, indeed some suspicions are sins. And spy not, neither backbite one another. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? You would hate it (so hate backbiting) . And fear Allah. Verily, Allah is the One Who accepts repentance, Most Merciful.
    104: 1. Woe to every slanderer and backbiter.
    53: 28. While they have no knowledge thereof. They follow but a guess, and verily, guess is no substitute for the truth.
    60:12 O Prophet! When believing women come to you to give you the Bai’â (pledge), that they will not associate anything in worship with Allâh, that they will not steal, that they will not commit illegal sexual intercourse, that they will not kill their children, that they will not utter slander, intentionally forging falsehood (i.e. by making illegal children belonging to their husbands), and that they will not disobey you in any Ma’rûf (Islâmic Monotheism and all that which Islâm ordains) then accept their Bai’â (pledge), and ask Allâh to forgive them, Verily, Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
    53:23,28,2:78,4:157,6:116,148,10:36,66,51:10,

    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 73 :: Hadith 90
    Narrated Abu Huraira:
    The Prophet said, “Beware of suspicion, for suspicion is the worst of false tales; and do not look for the others’ faults and do not spy, and do not be jealous of one another, and do not desert (cut your relation with) one another, and do not hate one another; and O Allah’s worshipers! Be brothers (as Allah has ordered you!”)
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 73 :: Hadith 91
    Narrated Anas bin Malik:
    Allah’s Apostle said, “Do not hate one another, and do not be jealous of one another, and do not desert each other, and O, Allah’s worshipers! Be brothers. Lo! It is not permissible for any Muslim to desert (not talk to) his brother (Muslim) for more than three days.”
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 73 :: Hadith 92
    Narrated Abu Huraira:
    Allah’s Apostle said, “Beware of suspicion, for suspicion is the worst of false tales. and do not look for the others’ faults, and do not do spying on one another, and do not practice Najsh, and do not be jealous of one another and do not hate one another, and do not desert (stop talking to) one another. And O, Allah’s worshipers! Be brothers!”
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 73 :: Hadith 99
    Narrated Anas bin Malik:
    Allah’s Apostle said, “Do not hate one another, nor be jealous of one another; and do not desert one another, but O Allah’s worshipers! Be Brothers! And it is unlawful for a Muslim to desert his brother Muslim (and not to talk to him) for more than three nights.”
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 80 :: Hadith 717
    Narrated Abu Huraira:
    Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Beware of suspicion, for it is the worst of false tales and don’t look for the other’s faults and don’t spy and don’t hate each other, and don’t desert (cut your relations with) one another O Allah’s slaves, be brothers!”
    Muslim :: Book 32 : Hadith 6219
    Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Don’t nurse grudge and don’t bid him out for raising the price and don’t nurse aversion or enmity and don’t enter into a transaction when the others have entered into that transaction and be as fellow-brothers and servants of Allah. A Muslim is the brother of a Muslim. He neither oppresses him nor humiliates him nor looks down upon him. The piety is here, (and while saying so) he pointed towards his chest thrice. It is a serious evil for a Muslim that he should look down upon his brother Muslim. All things of a Muslim are inviolable for his brother in faith: his blood, his wealth and his honors.
    Muslim :: Book 32 : Hadith 6217
    This hadith has been narrated on the authority of A’mash with the same chain of transmit ters (and the words are):” Don’t sever relations of kinship, don’t bear enmity against one another, don’t bear aversion against one another and don’t feel envy against the other and live as fellow-brothers as Allah has commanded you.
    Muslim :: Book 32 : Hadith 6208
    Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Don’t bear aversion against one another and don’t be jealous of one another and be servants of Allah.
    Muslim :: Book 32 : Hadith 6210
    Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Don’t nurse grudge and don’t bid him out for raising the price and don’t nurse aversion or enmity and don’t enter into a transaction when the others have entered into that transaction and be as fellow-brothers and servants of Allah. A Muslim is the brother of a Muslim. He neither oppresses him nor humiliates him nor looks down upon him. The piety is here, (and while saying so) he pointed towards his chest thrice. It is a serious evil for a Muslim that he should look down upon his brother Muslim. All things of a Muslim are inviolable for his brother in faith: his blood, his wealth and his honors.
    Muslim :: Book 32 : Hadith 6210
    Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Don’t nurse grudge and don’t bid him out for raising the price and don’t nurse aversion or enmity and don’t enter into a transaction when the others have entered into that transaction and be as fellow-brothers and servants of Allah. A Muslim is the brother of a Muslim. He neither oppresses him nor humiliates him nor looks down upon him. The piety is here, (and while saying so) he pointed towards his chest thrice. It is a serious evil for a Muslim that he should look down upon his brother Muslim. All things of a Muslim are inviolable for his brother in faith: his blood, his wealth and his honors.
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 73 :: Hadith 145
    Narrated Abu Musa:
    that when Allah’s Apostle sent him and Mu’adh bin Jabal to Yemen, he said to them, “Facilitate things for the people (treat the people in the most agreeable way), and do not make things difficult for them, and give them glad tidings, and let them not have aversion (i.e. to make the people hate good deeds) and you should both work in cooperation and mutual understanding, obey each other.”
    Malik :: Book 47 : Hadith 47.4.15
    Yahya related to me from Malik from Abu’z-Zinad from al-Araj from Abu Hurayra that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, “Beware of suspicion. Suspicion is the most untrue speech. Do not spy and do not eavesdrop. Do not compete with each other and do not envy each other and do not hate each other and do not shun each other. Be slaves of Allah, brothers.”
    Muslim :: Book 19 : Hadith 4298
    It has also been narrated by Sa’d b. Abu Burda through his father through his grandfather that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent him and Mu’adh (on a mission) to the Yemen, and said (by way of advising them): Show leniency (to the people) ; don’t be hard upon them; give them glad tidings (of Divine favours in this world and the Hereafter) ; and do not create aversion. Work in collaboration and don’t be divided.
    Bukhari :: Book 2 :: Volume 23 :: Hadith 443
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 89 :: Hadith 284
    Muslim :: Book 1 : Hadith 11 ,13
    Muslim :: Book 32 : Hadith 6197,6198,6199,6200,6202,6203,6204
    Muslim :: Book 31 : Hadith 6176
    Muslim :: Book 8 : Hadith 3469
    Muslim :: Book 1 : Hadith 72,73

    ” Do not compete with each other and do not envy each other and do not hate each other and do not shun each other.”
    CAN ANY RELIGION SAYS LIKE THAT? EXCEPT RELIGION MY ALLHA………….

    • More spam from sham:

      #Suspicion of Islam is not a bad thing. It is a sign of moral, mental and spiritual health……………

      WHO THE UTTER BRAIN DEAD ZOMBIEES SAYS LIKE THAT ………………….
      ……………………………………

      In other words, how *dare* we be suspicious of an ideology that is trying to subjugate and murder us?

      More:

      Spreading hate/grudge between people prohibited:
      ……………………………………

      Grimly hilarious,considering hatred of Infidels is the black heart of Islam.

      More:

      104: 1. Woe to every slanderer and backbiter.
      ……………………………………

      In Islam, “slander” can mean just telling the truth about someone who doesn’t like it.

      For example, saying the baleful “Prophet” is a war lord, caravan raider, pedophile, slaver, rapist, and mass murderer is considered “slander”, despite its all being true.

      More:

      CAN ANY RELIGION SAYS LIKE THAT? EXCEPT RELIGION MY ALLHA………….
      ……………………………………

      Can any other religion claim that telling the truth about someone is “slander”? No, buddy–you’ve got that one all to yourself…

      • Actually, telling the truth could well constitute slander/libel under UK law. “Truth” is NOT a defense.

        Also, true but unpleasant facts about Islam “could” be deemed incitement to racial hatred, etc. and are vigorously investigated and prosecuted (unlike mere crimes of violence or Muslim supremacism. Even without actual court judgments, there is now a well-established practice of punishment by procedural harassment, getting the “perpetrator” fired and permanently blacklisted, etc.

  28. …i would suggest that the ‘low level hum’ is more likely to be cognitive dissonance rather an ‘attack of conscience’…surely believing that ‘islam is peaceful’ while knowing that moohamed was a warlord would create an subtle feeling that something about your religion wasnt quite right…

    …i make this point because although i do regard islam as being ‘evil’, there is just as much evidence to show that ‘allah is real’ as there is that shows ‘god is real’ and ‘yahweh is real’…and odin…zeus…and all the other non-proved sky-fairies…

    so to all christians, hindus, jews, sikhs, buddhists, et al: i am happy to stand with you against any common enemy…but please dont ask me to do so in the name of your chosen delusion…

    • ” … so to all christians, hindus, jews, sikhs, buddhists, et al: i am happy to stand with you against any common enemy…but please dont ask me to do so in the name of your chosen delusion…”

      How many Christians, Hindus, Jews, Sikhs or Buddhists, have asked you to stand against jihad in the name of their religion ?

    • I THINK U CAN GOT ONLY .000000000000001% RACIST/TERRORIST/ BRAIN DEAD ZOMBIES AMONG THEM…………99.99% PEACEFUL BELIEVERS ON EARTH WITH US……….I NEED THE SUPPORT FROM PEACEFUL CHRISTIAN ,JEWS,HINDUS,SIKHS ,BUDDHISTS (UNITED FOR BELIEVER OF GOD)AGAINST THESE ATHEIST/TERRORIST /RACIST/HOMOSEXUAL/PSYCH/MENTAL DISORDERED PEOPLE……..

      • The increasingly unhinged sham ranted:

        I THINK U CAN GOT ONLY .000000000000001% RACIST/TERRORIST/ BRAIN DEAD ZOMBIES AMONG THEM…………99.99% PEACEFUL BELIEVERS ON EARTH WITH US……….I NEED THE SUPPORT FROM PEACEFUL CHRISTIAN ,JEWS,HINDUS,SIKHS ,BUDDHISTS (UNITED FOR BELIEVER OF GOD)AGAINST THESE ATHEIST/TERRORIST /RACIST/HOMOSEXUAL/PSYCH/MENTAL DISORDERED PEOPLE……..
        ………………………

        Well, sham certainly has a lot of gall–demanding that his Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Sikh, and Buddhist victims unite with him against Atheists and Gay people.

        Why would they? There is no threat from Atheists or Gay people.

        Now, ravening Mohamemdans are another story…

        One further point–he considers being Atheist or Gay “terrorist”, but considers Muslims slaughtering us to be perfectly fine. *Ugh*.

        • There is no threat from Atheists or Gay people.

          Certainly not as an existential a threat as the threat from Moslems who declare themselves to be a direct and present mortal threat. But atheists tend to take globo-socialist (aka liberalism or progressivism) as their substitute religion. That’s a threat. As for the second group, there *is* that very nasty virus going around. Fatal.

      • Your book the Qur’an PREVENTS us non believers to STAND with you. We can’t be friends, remember? Unless you want to disobey Muhammad anyway.

  29. o ihave wondered whether this airboron illness coming to america that is carried by mosquitoes had an infulence in the formationb of the briain in the mideast, where it originated, the doctors have stated that it influences the brain and how it works. could be this is why islamic people loose it and turn to violence.

    • i have wondered whether this airborn illness coming to america that is carried by…

      … a commercial jetliner packed with Moslem immigrants coming here to get phat on the welfare and the fake victimhood. Some of more ambitious will grow in the fervor for the contents of the Holy Ko-Ran that they will even do a mass murder acting upon the commands in the book.

  30. @ Mirren 10
    religions have killed over the idea of a different God.
    Witches burnt alive in Engeland
    Native American Indians slaughted
    Jews slaughtered by Christians and Muslims
    because of a different God.
    Man’s idea of God has divided Man.
    Christ may have been supremely holy.
    The power is in the disciples, not in an idea of a God.
    The God and the morality henceforth influences the state of being of the disciples.

    • Your ignorance of history is every bit as extensive as your ignorance of religious belief systems…. extreme and total…. You really are incredibly out to lunch…. A common bigot, spewing your drivel, rather much like sham does…. hitler and his ilk did not murder Jews over a disagreement about their ‘gods’ (though hitler was very easy to hold hands with muslims who shared his irrational Jew hatred), They did so out of jealousy, greed, ignorance…. You know, what you have to offer.

      In the last 200 years, atheistic governments have been the leaders for unspeakable butchery of those deemed to be ‘the other’, so you would really be very well advised, to STFU. Remember the old saying about it being better to remain silent and be thought a fool, then to open ones mouth and remove all doubt?? Suggest you repeat that bit of good advice, several hours a day, while looking in a mirror…

    • citycat says:

      ”religions have killed over the idea of a different God”

      Certainly this is true, no-one denies it. However, the examples you give are extremely flawed. As Western Canadian notes, you appear to have an abysmal ignorance of history.

      ”Native American Indians slaughted”

      Where is your evidence this was done on a religious basis ?

      ”Jews slaughtered by Christians and Muslims”

      *muslims* have certainly slaughtered Jews, on a religious basis; have done, and are doing, and will continue to do.

      Where is your evidence *Christians* have slaughtered Jews on a religious basis ?

      In your animus against religion, (which you assign mainly to Christianity) why do you not mention, that as Western Canadian notes, ”In the last 200 years, atheistic governments have been the leaders for unspeakable butchery of those deemed to be ‘the other’”

      Below is just *one* example, amongst many, of the slaughter carried out by the Soviet Union against its own citizens. Not on the basis of religion, but on the basis of political ideology.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulak#Numbers_executed

      Pol Pot. Khmer Rouge. Baader-Meinhof. Political ideology.

      Also, you might want to think about the fact that whilst religion has been responsible for some atrocities, it has also been responsible for many, many, many more good and admirable things.

      I can’t think of one single good thing communist/Marxist ideology has ever brought to the world, except misery and oppression.

      Sit down and do some googling.

      • I envy your and Gi’s ability to reply, while keeping your tempers under control!! I’m still working on that.

      • I’m just questioning one of your sentences – ‘Where is your evidence *Christians* have slaughtered Jews on a religious basis ?’
        There is an enormous book called Trials of The Diaspora which I am trawling through which catalogues all the killings of Jews by Christians in medieval England.

        • You’re quite correct, Simone.

          I was thinking of The Holocaust, which so many islamoapologists describe as Christians murdering Jews, and perhaps unwarrantedly assumed that was what citycat was referring to.

          But yes, horribly true about what was done to Jews in medieval England. In York, there is a motte and bailey castle. The town’s Jews were rounded up and imprisoned there, and then the townspeople burned them alive. In the 13th century.

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