Majeed is a former chairman of the King’s College Islamic Society. Why didn’t the benign, peaceful Islam that he presumably learned there help him withstand the allegedly twisted, hijacked version of Islam proffered by the Islamic State?
“London Uni Islamic Society leader planned drive-by murder of soldiers, court told,” by Katie Mansfield, Express, March 11, 2016 | UPDATED: 14:09, Fri, Mar 11, 2016:
A PHYSICS student accused of plotting drive-by shootings of servicemen used the murder of aid worker Alan Henning to justify his plans under Sharia law, a court heard.
Nathan Cuffy, 26, Nyall Hamlett, 25, and Suhaib Majeed, 21, from west London, are on trial at the Old Bailey for allegedly planning to kill soldiers, police officers and civilians in a series of attacks.
Majeed, 21, a former chairman of the King’s College Islamic Society, said references to Mr Henning were just “heated debate” about the legitimacy of Islamic State (ISIS).
Aid worker Mr Henning was kidnapped in Syria in December 2013 and held hostage for 10 months before he was brutally murdered by ISIS.
The Old Bailey heard Majeed had exchanged dozens of messages with his associates about the hostage situation and whether his execution would be legal under Sharia law.
Majeed referred repeatedly to ‘The Covenant of Protection’ – a protocol under which a Muslim does not kill a non-Muslim in an Islamic country if they have been offered protection from that state.
He said he was just debating whether the protection given by one Muslim could ever be legally withdrawn by another.
But in his closing speech, prosecutor Brian Altman, QC, said he was trying to justify his own murderous plot.
Mr Altman said: “He told you that he hadn’t committed to ISIS but he was involved in a great deal of debate about its legitimacy – debates in which he was fully prepared to stand his ground.
“Majeed had been saying he wanted Thaleel evidence that it was legitimate, and that the protection given by one Muslim could be withdrawn by another.
“But we don’t see any expression of regret or disgust, what we do see is really telling, what we do see is devastating for him and his case.”
The day before he received a handgun, Majeed allegedly messaged a friend: “Whatever I say or do is upon me and if it is not allowed in Sharia then obviously I am accounted for it.
“I just want some evidence from a scholar that I can follow and feel comfortable.”
Mr Altman said: “He wanted scholarly evidence for the rejection of the Covenant of Security – he knew what he was embarking on, a plot to kill.
“The reassurance he was seeking was that murdering people in this country was permissible.”…

jihad3tracker says
David Wood answers the “How does a nice Muslim turn into a bad one?” question in 4 minutes and 57 seconds: “The Jihad Triangle” on You Tube.
mortimer says
The heads of Muslim student organizations are the most likely to be the recruiters or the recruitees of the serious jihadists in the West.
Andrew Mitchell says
The radicalisation of the intelligent is easier, because pointing out the absurdities of Western civilisation, and comparing that with a holy book which condemns these behaviours gives credence to defending right against wrong. The words of the Quran, bible etc can all be re-interpretted quite easily, when sins are celebrated, and the sinfull rewarded. Righteous condemnation leads to rebellion, whatever religious texts you follow. The more intelligent the person, the more easily their perception of reality and common sense can be twisted.
steve says
Koran, ‘Holy Book’ Why be so sycophantic ?? The koran is not literature,it does not deserve a capital letter, it was written or assembled by Othman, an Islamic ‘hero. who buried his own daughter alive. It is fit for simple folk and Muslims. When will western Intelligentsia STOP being overwhelmed by the wonder of this puerile trash and call it what it is, a childs comic that lacks pictures and only has two comic characters,Muhammed and Allah. It tries with 60,000 confused words to emulate the Jewish bible of 600,000 and fails badly.
Andrew Mitchell says
Regardless of your obvious hatred for almost a third of the worlds population, the topic was how an otherwise intelligent person can be radicalised to such an extreme version of the faith. My response was meant as an answer to the question posed, using the Quran, which is admittedly no more than a later version of the Ibrahamic teachings, of which the Jewish people are also followers. The purpose of the original writing of the Quran, in my opinion, was to clarify those original teachings to a broken nation. It’s corruption began before it’s compilation, but not by the prophet who spoke the words, Islam existed before the Quran as a collection of sectarian tribal nations. The Quran brought those groups together, then, as with every other religion, disagreements on interpretation created secular division. And as with every religion corruption of the text over generation has caused the original message to be forgotten. Every religion preaches peace, even the original Quran, peoples hatred of other people who believe differently to them is more offensive to humanity than even the worst secular religion. To hate people simply because they believe what they are taught will be the cause of our extinction.
gravenimage says
The idea that violent Jihad is because of the shortcomings of Western civilization is absurd.
Firstly, Islam and Jihad much predate Western civilization in the modern sense, and secondly, Western civilization with all its foibles is *far* superior to the horrors of Islam.
And no, I *don’t* agree that intelligent people are more apt to embrace evil and violent nihilism.
Further, Muslims don’t represent a third of the world’s population–they are more like a fifth. Why would you want to inflate their numbers?
And no, violent Islam is *not* the same as Judaism and Christianity. And then you spout a lot of unsubstantiated nonsense asserting the “Prophet” Muhammed and Qur’an were both peaceful–what could you possibly base this on?
And people are not automatons. The idea that we should not judge Jihadists because they were taught violent Islam is absurd–no one has to embrace this viciousness. The existence of brave apostates from Islam proves that.
Moreover, your assertion that our opposition to the horrors of Jihad will be “the cause of our extinction” could not be more perverse.
gravenimage says
The above is a reply to Andrew Mitchell.
Andrew Mitchell says
Was meant as an answer to how such intelligent people can be brainwashed into extremist acts. The absurdities of Western civilisation being, hunger and obesity co-existing, forests being depopulated for industry, atmosphere and oceans being polluted, money being more important than lives. These facts make brainwashing easier, religious books, regardless of the faith, are used by extremists worldwide as examples of how we should live, I believe every religious book was initially inspired to teach right and wrong. Any religious text which advocates hatred of any description, does so After being re-interpreted by vested interests. At the time when the Quran, which I see as a simplified version of the Ibrahamic texts, was written the Arab nations were fractured, this one book brought them together as a nation. It’s corruption began before it’s compilation. Only by teaching the followers the absurdity of the twisted interpretations can we prevent a major war which could lead to our extinction. I don’t believe in hating those who hate me, would rather re-educate. Rightly or wrongly I believe the Quran can be interpreted as a book advocating peaceful co-existance.
Western Canadian says
Your first post was pitiable, and your second confirmed your purpose in being here: EGO TRIP!!!
“Andrew Mitchell says
March 12, 2016 at 5:34 pm
Regardless of your obvious hatred for almost a third of the worlds population,”
No such espression of hatred for such a large number of people. What post are you pretending to reply to??
“the topic was how an otherwise intelligent person can be radicalised to such an extreme version of the faith.”
Your supposition that he BECAME radicalized, demonstrates presumption on your part, as the odds are, being a muslim, it was force fed to him from birth. And the ‘extreme’ version of his faith, is the orthodox muslim one, the same one contrived by and practiced by muslims for over 1400 years. As for his being intelligence, yes, physics students tent to be a good slice more intelligent then those studying PC mush, which would appear to be your area of study, if you have one.
“My response was meant as an answer to the question posed, using the Quran, which is admittedly no more than a later version of the Ibrahamic teachings, of which the Jewish people are also followers. ”
The koran is NOT a later version of Abrahamic teaching…. and islam is NOT an Abrahmic faith…. It is a shabby collection of superstition, vicious hatred of the other, plagiarized and distorted as well as poorly or not understood portions of several other faiths. You are rather in need of education on the subject, or your use of the term ‘ibrahamic’ instead of Abrahamic, indicates a muslim and therefore extremely ignorant background.
“The purpose of the original writing of the Quran, in my opinion, was to clarify those original teachings to a broken nation.”
What you base this ‘opinion’ on, is an extreme and insufferable level of your own ignorance. It never was intended to clarify, it was an attack on what came before. After mad mo was rejected as a prophet, he became nasty as well as ignorant.
” It’s corruption began before it’s compilation, but not by the prophet who spoke the words, Islam existed before the Quran as a collection of sectarian tribal nations. The Quran brought those groups together, then, as with every other religion, disagreements on interpretation created secular division.”
Your fabricated version of history… where did you get it, from a local poorly educate imam, or did you make it up as you went along??
“And as with every religion corruption of the text over generation has caused the original message to be forgotten.”
And extremely broad comment, and one without merit Christs original message can be found quite easily…. almost 2 millenia later. You really don’t know what you are talking about. Do you?
” Every religion preaches peace, even the original Quran,”
Utter and absolute garbage. No one, repeat no one, who has actually read that vile and hate filled rag (and I have, unlike you), could ever make such a ridiculous and dishonest statement as that.
“peoples hatred of other people who believe differently to them is more offensive to humanity than even the worst secular religion.”
So now, even with your current level of staggering ignorance, you are fit to judge all belief systems? You don’t appear to even understand the words you are throwing about.
“To hate people simply because they believe what they are taught will be the cause of our extinction.”
Only if the hate filled peoples suffering under the yoke of islam come out on top… It is what they do.
And even more!! EGO TRIP!!!
“Andrew Mitchell says
March 13, 2016 at 4:55 am
Was meant as an answer to how such intelligent people can be brainwashed into extremist acts.”
Again, he was not and is not an extremist. He is merely another devout follower of a religion of hatred and violence. And your post demonstrates you lack the intelligence to comment on intelligence. Though it does appear you have been the victim of brain washing.
“The absurdities of Western civilisation being, hunger and obesity co-existing, forests being depopulated for industry, atmosphere and oceans being polluted, money being more important than lives.”
We have virtually no hunger in the West, or such a low rate of it that it is hard to measure, it is so small. . And we are feeding tens of millions outside of our own countries. We have more forests in North America and most of Europe than we had over 300 years ago. Who tells you these lies?? Your good friend, the local imam? These same regions are cleaning up the environment, and in many, many respects they are cleaner than BEFORE the industrial revolution. More lies from your imam?? The only examples of lives being worth less than money, come to us courtesy of the hard left lunatic fringe… You know, the ones who are so chummy with your imam??
” These facts make brainwashing easier, religious books, regardless of the faith, are used by extremists worldwide as examples of how we should live,”
Those are not facts, they are lies. And they are NOTHING compared to what some of the local imams lie to their victims about, locally. The b@stards should be deported, after being castrated. And now you are trying to lie about devout Christians, building schools, hospitals, finding clean water supplies, by comparing them to muslims who burn down schools, hospitals, and recommend drinking camel urine?? That does it, you are merely another muslim troll. And one of the most pathetic!!
“I believe every religious book was initially inspired to teach right and wrong.”
Something else you are not educated or intelligent enough to comment on. You really are a loon!!
” Any religious text which advocates hatred of any description, does so After being re-interpreted by vested interests.”
No, the bloody and hate filled koran was written to justify and encourage hatred. If you have read it or were not lying about it, you would not make such a pathetic and dishonest comment.
” At the time when the Quran, which I see as a simplified version of the Ibrahamic texts,”
Not simplified. Plagiarized, distorted, twisted, broken beyond repair, deliberately mutilated out of ignorance and hatred, yes. Simplified, no. Try again loser.
“was written the Arab nations were fractured, this one book brought them together as a nation.”
There were no nations, just tribes at war with each other and themselves. Where do you get this drivel from? Your good friend the imam, or are you making it up again?
“It’s corruption began before it’s compilation.”
It was created in corruption, you comment is both wrong and gibberish.
“Only by teaching the followers the absurdity of the twisted interpretations can we prevent a major war which could lead to our extinction. I don’t believe in hating those who hate me, would rather re-educate. Rightly or wrongly I believe the Quran can be interpreted as a book advocating peaceful co-existance.”
Those doing the murdering, raping, slave trading, and all other things islamic are not following ‘twisted’ interpretations, they are following what is there.
WE HAVE ANOTHER MUSLIM TROLL HERE FOLKS!! TEASE IT, BUT DO NOT FEED IT!!
syzygy says
Oddly, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab studied Engineering and Business Finance at University College London, where he was president of the school’s Islamic Society.
Pere LaChaise says
Only Moslems could have elaborated such an complex apparatus to justify heinous acts of mayhem. Psychologically they resemble nazis who kept punctilious records of every Jew, gypsy and queer they slaughtered.
The mental energy they dedicate to legalistic ratiocination to justify what every other culture understands as evil and crime leaves nothing for solving any of the problems of living. This emphasis explains why the Moslem world is the place people want to get away from. Th only ones who want to go there are in live with death.
I can’t think of any culture in history which has become so utterly decadent, so completely devoted to works of evil, as the Islamic.
mortimer says
Mon père,
With respect, Muslims are disorganized and do not keep records as a generality. Muslims do not mount organized ‘campaigns’ as a generality…what they do is to ‘RAID’ the kafirs and then run away before they can be counterattacked. This is the Sunna of Mohammed.
People want to get away from Muslim majority countries because their cultures are steeped in lies, bribery, tribalism, bigotry, backwardness, nepotism and corruption.
“Islam was not a torch, as has been claimed, but an extinguisher. Conceived in a barbarous brain for the use of a barbarous people, it was – and it remains – incapable of adapting itself to civilization. Wherever it has dominated, it has broken the impulse towards progress and checked the evolution of society.” – Andre Servier (French Writer)
Charli Main says
The proof of Andre Servier belief, is clearly demonstrated in the laughable myth of the ” Golden Years” of Islamic Spain and the turning of Egypt, the cultural and scientific jewel of the Mediterranean, into a backward shithole, by the Muslim invaders of those countries.
Good post, Mortimer.
Carolyne says
As has often been written about, Constantinople was a beautiful city until the hordes of Muslims invaded, killed and conquered. Saint Sophia Cathedral is a beautiful building, except they have erected phallic symbols at each corner and the caterwauling of Imams (recorded) in the early morning and periodically throughout the day disturbs the peace. And they have whitewashed the walls and covered the beautiful Christian airt work. And while Ataturk changed the nature of Islam in Turkey in the 1920s, Erdogan has again instituted the old regime and Turks are again slaves to Islam. There is a bridge now between Europe and Asia but it was built by Germans, not the indigenous population who are unable to think in complex terms.
Wherever they go they destroy and set civilization back by 1400 years.
Jay Boo says
Not so fast Mortimer, in playing down Islam’s schemes.
1 — As Angemon recently correctly pointed on a recent common —“Muslims now operate a parallel society”
2 —In addition David Wood video three stages of Jihad
3 — Robert Spencer’s book Stealth Jihad
4 — CAIR, MSA, ISNA etc.
The list goes on.
I am surprised that someone so familiar with Islamic ideology could make such a rookie mistake.
Angemon says
Jay Boo posted:
“1 — As Angemon recently correctly pointed on a recent common —“Muslims now operate a parallel society””
I can’t take credit for that. Charli Main said that, replying to a post of mine.
mortimer says
Radical Islamic chic is prevalent among Muslim youth in Western countries. How is it, then, that teachers, social workers and police do not observe it and do something to stop it?
The radicalization is all around us all the time in the West. Only someone completely unacquainted with Islam can miss it. The language of jihad is not just the insults they make towards ‘najis’, ‘kafirs’ and ‘Crusaders’…the language of jihad is in the clothing clipped upper lip jihad mustache and scraggly untrimmed beards, the attitude to women and the reverence for all things Islamic. What is wrong with being so religious, people ask? Well, what religious has warfare against disbelievers and religious supremacism as a primary article of belief…even more important than prayer? Only Islam.
Western elites have done no reading about Islam, and yet present themselves as experts. Their lack of preparation is culpable negligence. We must demand INFORMED leaders. Obama, Biden, Kerry and Hillary are a disgrace in their lack of knowledge about the jihad doctrine and the kafir doctrine.
Rob says
So much for the trope that it is alienation and lack of opportunity that creates these curs.
Did I see somewhere that a good jobs programme would fix Isis?
mortimer says
It was discovered by a researcher that 90% of the serious jihadists have university degrees and come from highly functioning families.
gravenimage says
Important point, Rob.
Marty says
Well said.
The civilised world must face up to the fact that islam is intrinsically evil, as well
as being very stupid.
There are no “good muslims” only good ex muslims.
Islam is much worse than Nazism, with which it has much in common.
We don’t hear about “good nazis”, let alone permit, even pay for, Nazi schools in the
West.
Myxlplik says
Sharia is sedition, simple, apply the law.
Michael Copeland says
Alas, the offence of sedition was abolished a few years ago.
See “Sedition” at Liberty GB
http://libertygb.org.uk/news/sedition
Myxlplik says
Great article Michael, it would appear that the authorities tied a rubber band around their balls just in time.
Myxlplik says
This is really unsettling, because the government is essentially rewarding those who threaten violence. Take Robert, for instance, he got banned from the UK for saying that Islamic doctrine espouses violent Jihad, so they ban him, not because he lied, but because they fear Muslim violence. Now they make sedition legal, because they’d have to do something about all of this violent plotting of Jihad to destroy your country.
They only go after peaceful people, what happens when peaceful people take the que, which is that you need to be violent to get what you want.
Big trouble on the horizon.
Angemon says
Scrawny little geek. No wonder he had to plan a drive-by – if a soldier sneezed a bit harder he’d break him in half…
Richard says
The most frightening aspect of this entire article is Majeed’s apparent concern over violating the Covenant of Protection, in other words the dhimma contract. Why does he think that there’s a dhimma contract in force and that his killing of soldiers and police might violate it?
He obviously considers all Kafirs in the UK to already be dhimmis, protected, governed and enslaved by the Pact of Umar, and paying the jizya to Islam in the form of welfare and housing allowances to Muslims, subsidies for mosques, monies paid for Halal certification schemes and the tacit approval of Shari’a courts. We of course don’t understand or recognize our lowly status yet, but that is irrelevant to Islam. If Majeed’s attitude is representative of that of his Muslim peers, they apparently consider us already to have been conquered, to the point where they are debating our “rights” as dhimmis.
If so this is a shocking transition in the mindset of Muslims in Britain and needs to be publicized and condemned very quickly.
gravenimage says
UK university Islamic Society head planned drive-by murder of soldiers
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How many other Muslim students in the West are sleeper Jihadists?
More:
A PHYSICS student accused of plotting drive-by shootings of servicemen used the murder of aid worker Alan Henning to justify his plans under Sharia law, a court heard.
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Only pious Muslims would use the savage murder of *an aid worker* to justify their savagery.
God, I hate Islam.