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Australia: Jihad murderer makes Islamic State gesture in court

Apr 29, 2016 6:19 pm By Robert Spencer

Everyone in the world knows that the raised index finger is a sign of allegiance to the Islamic State. Yet if you dare point this out, watch for a barrage of accusations of “Islamophobia” and a blizzard of emails containing photos of non-Muslims with raised index finger. Even those who stoop to this sort of thing must be aware that it is deceptive: Islamic State jihadis repeatedly make this gesture, and however else it is used in other contexts, in the case of Milad Atai and other jihadis its meaning is unmistakable.

Muslim students at Brooklyn College make the gesture of allegiance to the Islamic State. Were these students investigated? Why not?
Muslim students at Brooklyn College make the gesture of allegiance to the Islamic State. Were these students investigated? Why not?

“Terror attack accused reportedly makes Islamic State gesture in Sydney court,” 9 News, April 27, 2016:

One of the four men accused of the conspiracy to carry out a terrorist attack, in which NSW Police accountant Curtis Cheng was murdered, has reportedly raised his index finger during a court appearance, in a similar gesture used by Islamic State militants.

Milad Atai, 20, appeared in court via video link alongside Mustafa Dirani, 22 and Raban Alou, 18 earlier today.

Mr Atai made the gesture to the camera as the matter concluded in Goulburn Local Court today.

The fourth accused, 23-year-old Talal Alameddine, was the only one to appear in court and to be legally represented.

None of the group applied for bail.

The four men were charged yesterday with conspiracy to prepare and plan for a terrorist attack.

All four were already in police custody over related alleged offences, when the new charges were laid yesterday.

Mr Atai became the fourth person charged in connection to the death of Mr Cheng, who was shot dead outside Parramatta Police Headquarters on October 2 last year.

Mr Atai is accused of helping the sister of the 15-year-old gunman, Farhad Jabar, travel to Syria the day after the shooting.

Jabar was fatally shot by police outside the Parramatta building after Mr Cheng was killed….

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  1. Champ says

    Apr 29, 2016 at 6:28 pm

    Everyone in the world knows that the raised index finger is a sign of allegiance to the Islamic State.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Yes–and the raised index finger also means that Jesus is the Way! But IS stole this from Christianity and tainted what was once a sign of Hope & Love–now it’s a sign of murder & mayhem: the very thing that islam truly is.

    • boakai ngombu says

      Apr 29, 2016 at 6:39 pm

      yes, Champ, it means Jesus is the Way! it was around before IS when Rev. Billy Graham was an apt crusader.

      • Bob says

        Apr 30, 2016 at 8:12 am

        I remember having a “Jesus is the Way” bumper sticker on the back of my old Kombi back in the early 70s – the upraised index finger. A stolen sign by the Islamists, stolen as they’re trying to steal our country from us & impose barbaric shari’a law!

    • Mirren10 says

      Apr 29, 2016 at 8:41 pm

      ”Yes–and the raised index finger also means that Jesus is the Way! But IS stole this from Christianity and tainted what was once a sign of Hope & Love … ”

      I didn’t know that, Champ.

      As you say, just another example of islam taking something Christian, and twisting it; like ramadanadingdong is a twisting and travesty of fasting for Lent.

      • Lia says

        Apr 30, 2016 at 3:18 am

        As far as I know the qur’an is also a mishmash of Jewish and Christian Scriptures, all served up anyhow through lack of understanding.

        • Lynette says

          Apr 30, 2016 at 3:49 am

          I may add, with rantings from a pedophile, evil male who was and never was a ?man? Who was decidedly an ignorant ranting uneducated mad ?man?

        • No Fear says

          Apr 30, 2016 at 6:27 am

          The Quran even includes material from the apocryphal christian texts which were current in Mecca at the time of Mohamed. e.g. The Infancy Gospel of Jesus.
          I assume Mohammed was too stupid to know that the texts were apocryphal.

      • Charli Main says

        Apr 30, 2016 at 6:02 am

        Similar to what the Nazis did, when they stole the Hindu swastika, a symbol of light and hope, and turned it into a symbol of unparalleled hate and evil.

      • Shmooviyet says

        Apr 30, 2016 at 2:22 pm

        “islam is Christianity adapted to the Arab mentality, or, more exactly, it is all that the unimaginative brain of a Bedouin, obstinately faithful to ancestral practices, has been able to assimilate of the Christian doctrines. Lacking the gift of imagination, the Bedouin copies, and in copying he distorts the original…”
        Quoting Andre Servier from “L’islam et la psychologie du musulman”, 1924

        They turn it into “pull this”.

        • 762x51FMJ says

          Apr 30, 2016 at 2:27 pm

          To sum up: the Arab has borrowed everything from other nations, literature, art, science, and even his religious ideas. He has passed it all through the sieve of his own narrow mind, and being incapable of rising to high philosophic conceptions, he has distorted, mutilated and desiccated everything. This destructive influence explains the decadence of Musulman nations and their powerlessness to break away from barbarism…Thus Musulman law is only the Roman Code revised and corrected by Arabs; in the same way Musulman science is nothing but Greek science interpreted by the Arab brain; and again, Musulman architecture is merely a distorted imitation of the Byzantine style.

          Andre Servier.

        • Don Foss says

          Apr 30, 2016 at 8:06 pm

          They couldn’t even find their own oil. It too American geologists to do that for them.

    • Kepha says

      Apr 29, 2016 at 8:45 pm

      Hear, hear. As someone who came of age and became a “Jesus Freak” back in the Sillier ‘Seventies, I remember that gesture well. The real ISIS gesture is the raised middle finger in the face of the rest of the world.

      • mortimer says

        Apr 30, 2016 at 4:12 am

        This is now the ‘Victory Hail’ salute of Salafism as the straight-arm salute is the fascist salute and the fist the salute of totalitarian communism. It comes from the same impulse to use force to put down the ‘other’.

        ‘Tawhid and prophethood’ are the dualistic first ‘essential doctrine’ of Islam (usul ud deen). The first essential doctrine gives Muslim the divine command to commit genocide of the ‘other’ using all means to do so without any real restriction. Muslims consider Islamic genocide to be a glorious and noble act of cleansing the earth of the filthy kufaar and there is practically no mullah who would dare criticize Islamic genocide.

        The gesture of this youth means he approves of genocide and wishes to participate in it at the first opportunity.

        • Jay Boo says

          Apr 30, 2016 at 9:52 am

          This is their Proctology salute.
          Muhammad like his doctrine is a filthy JOKE.

        • Jay Boo says

          Apr 30, 2016 at 9:56 am

          Muslim Clown School trainee

    • Christianblood says

      Apr 30, 2016 at 9:55 am

      In the meantime, an islamic jihadist mosque full of jihad bombs was blown up by the Russian army. Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NryMeO4XAKs

      • Angemon says

        Apr 30, 2016 at 10:38 pm

        Christianblood posted:

        “In the meantime, an islamic jihadist mosque full of jihad bombs was blown up by the Russian army. ”

        Do you think things through before posting, CB? Because I’m not sure that, in your crusade against the West and the US in particular, you want to acknowledge that in your country:

        a) jihadis can easily amass explosives.
        b) the army gets called up to handle the situation.

    • Peter Brock says

      Apr 30, 2016 at 10:05 am

      Hate to break in, Bob. But these ads at the bottom of your website COMPLETELY negate the substance of Jihad Watch.

      And, don’t give me any crap about 1st Amendment.

    • Sweetatorscreampuff says

      Apr 30, 2016 at 10:18 am

      Just like the rainbow. First jesse jackson; now the homosexuals. satan is always trying to imitate God.
      I always used to use the index finger up for Jesus. Out here in New Mexico it is THE usual ‘wave’ that happens on the road while driving, esp. pick-up to pick-up drivers it seems. Sadly, the friendly waves that really got my attention the first time I drove into NM is almost gone. Replace by cell phones and indifference…..the passing of another kindness.

  2. JMB says

    Apr 29, 2016 at 7:35 pm

    Sadly this is not a joke, health authorities investigating a filthy curry cafe (Muslim) in the English Midlands found a water bottle covered with faeces. The proprietor told the heath inspector that it was against his culture to use toilet paper. (They use a water jug or bottle in conjunction with their left hand)

    • Angemon says

      Apr 29, 2016 at 9:46 pm

      From the looks I get when I purposely greet them with my left hand, I’d say they can tell the difference.

  3. Greyhound Fancier says

    Apr 29, 2016 at 7:39 pm

    Yet they accuse Christians and Jews of being “filthy”…

  4. OP says

    Apr 29, 2016 at 8:13 pm

    So may we conclude the deradicalization program didn’t take?

  5. JMB says

    Apr 29, 2016 at 8:31 pm

    It should be noted that the coverage of this crime is a big story here in Australia, Sydney in particular. Another big story here at present is a Muslim gangland shoot-out in a major shopping center in Sydney’s south-west, Muslim & Mosque territory. Yet, we will continue to be told that this is NOT what Islam is all about. In another story an Islamic school in Sydney’s south-west had Federal funding cut for fiddling the books.

    As a note of reassurance; It should be noted that whenever a policeman or police employee is murdered, the full force of the law, NSW State and Federal Police is immediate and thorough. As for Milad Atai and his one fingered gesture, hopefully this will help convince the larger general public of the threat that Islam presents to our society. Fortunately the Sydney Daily Telegraph is not frightened to report Islamic crime in this country the way it is.

    The picture of the schoolkids raising their fingers shows things the way things really are, that is Islamism is fully supported by Australia’s Islamic community.

    • mortimer says

      Apr 30, 2016 at 4:24 am

      Good point: our teachers, police, lawyers and social workers come into daily contact with these jihadists without knowing how to read them.

      They all need to read Islamic semaphore…this is an example.

  6. Linde Barrera says

    Apr 29, 2016 at 9:20 pm

    The Muslim murderer Milad Atai made the IS gesture with his index finger in the air. Then the judge, in my opinion, should have put his index finger under his neck and made the cut-your-throat gesture to the Muslim murderer.

  7. David M says

    Apr 30, 2016 at 3:21 am

    That’s okay, all four of them are looking at life in prison, they won’t be out of jail for a very long time. They can gesture all they like behind bars for the next 30 years.

    • mortimer says

      Apr 30, 2016 at 4:19 am

      No ‘virgins’ in jail.

  8. particolor says

    Apr 30, 2016 at 3:52 am

    They Hate Us !
    They Hate Our Flag !!
    They Hate Our Laws !!!
    Time ask them their Reason for being here Mr Prime Minister ??

    • mortimer says

      Apr 30, 2016 at 4:30 am

      particolor listed what “They Hate”.

      Agree. They hate Australians so much, they want to form a completely separate ‘apartheid-society’ of their own as they did in European no-go zones. These no-go zones will become hives of jihadism in Australia. Police will only go into them in large numbers in fear for their safety.

      There will eventually be Muslim mafias in all Western cities.

      • particolor says

        Apr 30, 2016 at 4:52 am

        They had a Gun Fight at the Not OK Coral in Sydney yesterday ! 2 Muzzo Gangs ! The Auburn Kid was Killed and Lakemba Mo was wounded !! 🙁 🙁 Among other Innocent bystanders Wounded 🙁

      • Jay Boo says

        Apr 30, 2016 at 11:59 am

        Muslim mafias

        Good analogy, Mortimer
        We must hunt them down and kill them wherever they hide.
        Then we must behead them before they spawn new recruits.

        Mortimer
        How many of us — should they be allowed to kill before we attack their Islamic kill crazy infrastructure at its rotten core?

    • Bob says

      Apr 30, 2016 at 8:20 am

      You’ll have no reply from our PM, who is afraid to speak out against them. After all, he wouldn’t want to be PI or, heaven forbid, be accused of Islamophobia! I fear that he’d prefer shari’a and the peace of the sword!!

  9. mortimer says

    Apr 30, 2016 at 4:16 am

    To MP: Calls for mass murder contradict our Western values and are morally repugnant and ineffective.

    • john spielman says

      Apr 30, 2016 at 9:36 am

      true but at least DEPORT them back to KRAPISTAN where their ancestors came from

      • David Pimentel says

        Apr 30, 2016 at 11:41 am

        Deportation alone will likely prove to be ineffective, because of the fact that those who ascribe to Islam want us and our cultures to die.

    • Jay Boo says

      Apr 30, 2016 at 11:20 am

      mortimer
      Islam’s (pedophile salute) symbol is morally repugnant.

    • David Pimentel says

      Apr 30, 2016 at 11:39 am

      What about calls to rise up and defend our Western nations from invasion? Either way violence is inevitable because of the fact that those who ascribe to Islam want us and our cultures to die.

  10. mach37 says

    Apr 30, 2016 at 5:21 am

    Barack H. Obama has used the pointing finger conspicuously, in circumstances where it is recognized. A number of the Africans in the background appear to recognize the significance of his gesture in the photo, taken at at the US-African Leaders conference, Aug 2014:
    http://shoebat.com/2015/02/18/photo-obama-extending-index-finger-proof-obama-muslim/

  11. ScottM says

    Apr 30, 2016 at 9:19 am

    As an Australian, these filthy mongrels make me sick. We have many of them here – starting to cause all the problems they have everywhere else, but too many people here just dont care enough or frightened to be ostracised by the media and other do-gooder imbeciles. We have a chance still to stop these animals – but its going to take more people to wake up to what’s happening.

  12. duh_swami says

    Apr 30, 2016 at 9:32 am

    They are using the wrong finger…

  13. Jay Boo says

    Apr 30, 2016 at 9:47 am

    Muslims write Allah in Arabic
    Notice that it resembles a Serpent

  14. Jay Boo says

    Apr 30, 2016 at 9:48 am

    Muslims pray to a symbol as well.

    —– A pagan black stone in Mecca

    • duh_swami says

      Apr 30, 2016 at 10:40 am

      Millions have kissed it, but has anyone ever washed it off,,,yuk

      • Jay Boo says

        Apr 30, 2016 at 11:29 am

        It could be even worse if they also touched the stone with that finger.

        Sexually repressed Muslim men bend over in front of other Muslim men as they pray.
        Shouldn’t these same Muslim men wash their finger (after prayer)?

  15. David says

    Apr 30, 2016 at 10:22 am

    Yes. It is a world wide horror. Yoy let these barbaric savages over run your country and you pay the consequences .
    Rule one. Keep them out.
    Rule two. Burn down all mosques.
    Rule three pass laws against this evil, subversive ideology. (NO! It’s not a religion! And deserves no special protection or consideration. )
    Rule four. Fight to preserve you own western values.
    Start now or it will soon be too late to avoid a blood bath.

  16. Walter Sieruk says

    Apr 30, 2016 at 10:53 am

    Actually, the raising of the index finger stands for the Muslim belief one only one god. which is,of course,the god of Islam. As one Christian scholar had once explained “A a person having a strong belief in one god doesn’t do that person any good if it’s the wrong god.” In other words in a man or women a faith in the false god , no matter how sincere he or she might be, such a blind faith in a false god is tragically as sure way to end up in hell. With this stated there is a need to be more specific and clear on this very important topic.So ion this subject in further detail it should be known that there are a number of apologists for Islam, some are imams and mullahs and strangely enough, even some so called “Christian” pastors, who have the outstanding claim that Christians and Muslim both believe in and worship the same God. So it stands to reason that it’s important to know if this claims valid and true or invalid and false. The facts are that the god of Islam or the Muslims is a single being. In great contrast the God of Christianity, of the Christians consists as the Trinity. By the Trinity it means that “Within the essence of the one True God there are Three Persons. Being God the Father. God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Not three gods in one But Three Distinct Persons in One God. Being the Tri-Personal Nature of God, Matthew 3:13-17. Second Corinthians 13:14. . The Bible teaches, the Father is God, Galatians 1:1.The Son is God, First John 5:20. The Holy Spirit is God, Acts 5:3,4. Not three gods but the one and only Triune God. As further explained in the Christian book MAJOR BIBLE THEMES by Lewis Sperry Chafer on page 39 which informs the readers that “Many believe that the doctrine of the Trinity in implicit in the use of the word Elohim, as the name of God which is in a plural form and seems to refer to the Triune God. “ Likewise, in the Christian magazine PERHAPS TODAY November/December 2013 on page 8 it reads about Genesis 1:1. “In the beginning God [this is the plural noun Elohim, meaning ‘more than one’] created the heaven and the earth.” Furthermore, a bit of a view of the inner workings of the Trinity together may be seen in that the God the Father raised Jesus from the dead. Romans 10:9,10. Jesus raised Himself from the dead, John 2:19,20. The Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead, Romans 8:11.The inner-workings of the Trinity of God may also be seen in the fact that the Father sanctifies, First Thessalonians 5:23. The Son sanctifies, Ephesians 5:26. Hebrews 2:11; 9:12,14;13:12.The Holy Spirit sanctifies ,Romans 15:16. Second Thessalonians 2:13. Getting back to the Bible book of Genesis. In Genesis 1:26 in reads “The God said let US make man in Our image , according to our likeness…” The words are the plural “Us” and “Our.” As in “We the Trinity” For the very next verse, 27, it further reads “So God created man in His own image…” In verse 26 it’s the plural “Us” and “Our” to the singular “His” That is Three Persons in One God. In addition, in the New Testament in Matthew 28:19 It further reads the Jesus said “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the the Son and the Holy Spirit.” [N.K.J.V] That is “name” not “names.” In conclusion the many apologists and propagandists for Islam for Islam who make the claim that Christians and Muslims believe in and worship the same God are make an untrue and outright false claim. For the God of Christianity, Christians and the Bible is not the god of Islam Muslims and the Koran.

    • Jay Boo says

      Apr 30, 2016 at 12:09 pm

      Allah carries a pitch fork
      He dresses up in women’s clothes.
      Everybody knows.

  17. Alistair cromley says

    Apr 30, 2016 at 1:12 pm

    Alan Henning has about 3 photos of himself giving this salute. No one has raised this issue. Anyhoo, here’s a link to a photo of him before he was, betrayed by his crew, kidnapped and beheaded.

    Stupid bloke was like a lamb to the slaughter, totally set up by his colleagues who were not targeted.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/alan-henning-al-qaeda-appealed-to-isis-to-release-british-aid-worker-following-kidnap-9734598.html

    • UNCLE VLADDI says

      Apr 30, 2016 at 6:17 pm

      What an immense tard he is!

  18. Marylou Barry says

    Apr 30, 2016 at 1:43 pm

    Since ISIS emerged, maybe. But back in the day of the Jesus Revolution, right index finger in the air stood for “ONE WAY – JESUS!”

  19. 762x51FMJ says

    Apr 30, 2016 at 2:33 pm

    Islam was not a torch, as has been claimed, but an extinguisher. Conceived in a barbarous brain for the use of a barbarous people, it was – and it remains – incapable of adapting itself to civilization. Wherever it has dominated, it has broken the impulse towards progress and checked the evolution of society.

    Andre Servier – L’islam et la psychologie du musulman – London. Chapman Hall LTD. 1924, pp.153, 61, 191, 2, 18, Ch XVI, Preface

  20. 762x51FMJ says

    Apr 30, 2016 at 2:35 pm

    The deadening influence of Islam is well demonstrated by the way in which the Musulman comports himself at different stages of his life. In his early childhood, when the religion has not as yet impregnated his brain, he shows a very lively intelligence and remarkably open mind, accessible to ideas of every kind; but, in proportion as he grows up, and as, through the system of his education, Islam lays hold of him and envelops him, his brain seems to shut up, his judgment to become atrophied, and his intelligence to be stricken by paralysis and irremediable degeneration.

  21. Hummer says

    Apr 30, 2016 at 2:36 pm

    Time to clean this next of vipers out and deport as enemies of the state one way to the middle east

  22. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Apr 30, 2016 at 6:15 pm

    Don’t be silly – the islamic finger-point gesture predates and precedes the islamic state – it only means allegiance to islam’s allah, as in there is only 1 god, and that’s allah, and Moe is his prophit etc.

  23. More Ham Ed says

    May 2, 2016 at 12:38 am

    Reminds me of this:

    https://counterjihadnews.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/john_kerry_finger-e1378141833200.jpg

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