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Australia: Muslim whose daughter was killed waging jihad demands her life insurance

Apr 9, 2016 4:42 pm By Robert Spencer

“Mr Karroum told how his daughter introduced him to Islam but fell into the wrong crowd worshipping at an Auburn mosque.” Somehow I doubt that Mohamed Karroum was introduced to Islam by his daughter. She was only 22 when she was killed two years ago, and since he says she introduced him to Islam after she finished high school, that means that if this introduction took place at all, it most likely happened just a few years ago. But Mohamed Karroum looks as if he has been developing his beard and zebiba for a longer time than that.

Meanwhile, his bid here for jizya from the life insurance company should be treated with all the derision and contempt that he deserves.

Mohamed Karroum2

“Father of jihadi fighter wants her life insurance paid out,” by Jack Houghton, Gold Coast Bulletin, April 8, 2016 (thanks to Kenneth):

THE father of Gold Coast ­jihadist Amira Karroum has launched a legal battle to claim her $300,000 life insur­ance policy.

Karroum, 22, changed from a “beautiful and loving” girl spending her days lounging on beaches to an armed soldier who died fighting for Islamic extremists in 2014.

Distraught father ­Moha­med Karroum, 72, said his daughter’s life insurance policy should be honoured because she was “tricked” into entering Syria at a time when it was not illegal to do so.

IntrustSuper refused to pay Karroum’s life insurance because of her ties to terrorist group al-Qa’ida and was ­supported by the Australian Government, which formally labelled her a terrorist after she was shot and dismembered by ISIS militants.

“They will not pay because you are not supposed to travel there but the law came in after Amira was killed,” he said.

“They said you can’t have (the money) because she went to a place she is not supposed to go.

“It was not illegal to go there until a year later, so she has done nothing wrong.

“(The extremists) got to her when she moved to Sydney at the mosque in Auburn.

“They all tricked her.”

In Sydney, Karroum married Yusuf Ali, an Adelaide-born American-Australian citizen who trained with ­al-Qa’ida overseas.

Her father is in discussions with Maurice Blackburn lawyers in Brisbane.

IntrustSuper declined to comment but The Courier-Mail confirmed Karroum, a former Sea World employee, was a member of the super­annuation fund, which automatically signs members up to life insurance.

Her father, a former Surfers Paradise kebab shop owner, said he was still struggling to deal with the loss of his daughter.

“They told her she would be there for humanitarian reasons but it was all a lie,” he said.

“She wasn’t there to fight.

“They shot my little girl in the head and cut her arms off.

“These are the people we are dealing with over there and she just got caught up in it all.”

Speaking from a one-bedroom, rent-assisted unit on the Gold Coast, Mr Karroum told how his daughter introduced him to Islam but fell into the wrong crowd worshipping at an Auburn mosque.

“We would always go to the beach together — she loved the beach,” he said.

“She got me into (religion) but when she left the Gold Coast after (high) school, she met some people who lied to her and tricked her into going over there.”…

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  1. Keith says

    Apr 9, 2016 at 4:50 pm

    She was killed whilst in a war zone, why was she there if not to wage jihad? Tough luck on him hope the insurance company stick to their guns and refuse to pay out.

    • CTL says

      Apr 10, 2016 at 6:16 am

      Self inflicted wounds and Suicide do not count for a Insurance payoff, He lost out .lol.

    • Custos Custodum says

      Apr 10, 2016 at 9:57 pm

      This is obviously just the tip of a massive iceberg.

      How many Muslim insurance scams are waved through because insurance companies and their supervising government agencies fear the “Islamophobia” taint.

  2. No Fear says

    Apr 9, 2016 at 5:02 pm

    “Mr Karroum told how his daughter introduced him to Islam but fell into the wrong crowd worshipping at an Auburn mosque.”

    Is any one closing down the Auburn “Gallipoli” Mosque?

    I grew up in Auburn. Wouldn’t go there now.

  3. BigTideFan says

    Apr 9, 2016 at 5:05 pm

    Insurance policies intentionally contain caveats, homie. This is part of civilized life.

    • Ex-muslim says

      Apr 9, 2016 at 5:17 pm

      muslims are not only killing the “infidel/kuffar” but they are milking them from left to right and the “infidel/kuffar” have no idea of what hit them!

      • LB says

        Apr 9, 2016 at 5:27 pm

        Correction. Muslims are milking only from the Left, though. The Right is smarter than its suicidal counterpart 🙂

  4. Elliott says

    Apr 9, 2016 at 5:19 pm

    Muslims are renowned for insurance fraud. Any kind will do. Burning down garbage building claiming the shack was full of priceless merchandise, artwork, personal affects, anything but having zero proof. Workers comp fraud, falling down in businesses, horrible injuries in fender benders in parking lots, etc. is one of the reasons CCTV cameras are now everywhere and encouraged by insurers. Medical malpractice is a new and growing industry for them also especially of hospitals. They lie about everything.

    • Bob says

      Apr 10, 2016 at 9:38 am

      And any lies will do when the Islamist is dealing with the kafur!

    • jayell says

      Apr 10, 2016 at 10:08 am

      Actually, I was once told that insurance is supposed to be unislamic. I believe this was because they were trying to get out of paying for compulsory car insurance in UK. But according to this story it seems to be OK after all – when they want money out of it, that is, or when they’re defrauding someone. (There was a huge cash-for-crash scam going on in the UK until quite recently. Strange that a lot of the crashes happened in ‘asian’ areas!!). Also rather odd – the father’s name is Mohamed, yet he’s a late convert to islam?

      • Peggy says

        Apr 10, 2016 at 11:05 pm

        Oh he changed it to Mohammed. It was Bob before that.
        I wonder what is says on the cencus form before the “conversion”.

  5. Champ says

    Apr 9, 2016 at 5:20 pm

    “They told her she would be there for humanitarian reasons but it was all a lie,” he said.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    For “humanitarian reasons”? Oh please, that is “a lie” alright!

    Unless you turn from your evil ways, then you will rot in hell for all the lies you’ve told …

    “But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars–they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” — Revelation 21:8

  6. Dan says

    Apr 9, 2016 at 5:31 pm

    Am I missing something here?

    What single 22 year old carries a life insurance policy?

    Husbands and wives have the surviving spouse and/or kids can be supported, and debts and loans paid off.

    Plus, more often than not, it’s just the wage earner in the family who has life insurance.

    The only real reason for a parent to have a life insurance policy on a single adult son or daughter, is if they knew the kid was going to do something stupid.

    So take a hike you scammer.

    • خَليفة says

      Apr 9, 2016 at 6:53 pm

      Spot on Dan. Maybe he was planning to honor kill her for lounging on beaches and wanted a payoff.

    • tilda says

      Apr 9, 2016 at 7:57 pm

      Here’s the bit you missed:

      “IntrustSuper declined to comment but The Courier-Mail confirmed Karroum, a former Sea World employee, was a member of the super­annuation fund, which automatically signs members up to life insurance.”

      In other words the daughter had been employed by Sea World, as a result of which she had superannuation. Her superannuation fund * automatically* signed her up for life insurance.

      • خَليفة says

        Apr 9, 2016 at 8:15 pm

        Would insurance policy become invalid when she is no longer working there? Like say, trapsing off to ME to train land sharks or desert seals at Sand World?

        • tilda says

          Apr 9, 2016 at 9:29 pm

          My suspicion is that the premium for the insurance policy was deducted from her superannuation pot.

          In other words: when she ceased employment the payments for the insurance policy continued to be deducted from superannuation monies held in her name.

  7. Islam :- the religion for ruin of our childrens future says

    Apr 9, 2016 at 5:38 pm

    Wow, this could start a trend, under Sharia if you can kill your family member for upsetting “your honour” an insurance payout is going to be a good “assisted incentive” …

    “my daughter got me into religion”, this loving father makes it sound like some secretive, violent, drug dealing, plotting & killing biker gang that can’t afford bikes..

    Now that she has been killed he can safely give up religion and go back to being just a plain old welfare beneficiary …

  8. Hope says

    Apr 9, 2016 at 5:44 pm

    Every word of it is a lie. Extortion and fraud, like gang rape, are popular muslim sports.

  9. Shmooviyet says

    Apr 9, 2016 at 5:45 pm

    PANTS ON FIRE!

    This father is “distraught”. Well I suppose I’d be as well if a child I didn’t give a rip about made me her beneficiary, then the co. refused payment.

    It was all for nothing, Pops. You APPROVED of her mission.
    Get used to grieving over the loss of… the money.

    • Champ says

      Apr 9, 2016 at 6:20 pm

      “PANTS ON FIRE!”

      Indeed!

      Liar, liar, pants of fire!

      https://youtu.be/8Dj-4RYjbdY

      • Shmooviyet says

        Apr 9, 2016 at 7:26 pm

        THANKS for the day-maker. Everyone see Champ’s video for some relief!

        “Squoimin, squoimin, squoimin…” hahahahahaha

        • Champ says

          Apr 9, 2016 at 9:45 pm

          tee hee!! 😉

  10. linnte says

    Apr 9, 2016 at 5:54 pm

    And ISIS killed her….a Muslim! I wonder why? Maybe she wasn’t a virgin when she got there and you know! That’s bad! To IS, fighting in the way of Allah is a humanitarian act. Nuts!

  11. revereridesagain says

    Apr 9, 2016 at 5:59 pm

    That would be an impressive zebiba on an imam, never mind some old coot who has only been in the religion for two years. What has he been doing, hammering nails with his head to pick up some extra cash laying floors at the mosque? Grow a ‘stache with that beard and he can get a gig playing Santy Claws come December.

    • Hope says

      Apr 9, 2016 at 6:07 pm

      revereridesagain, thank you for that. That was the best laugh I’ve had in a while.

  12. Infidel from Down Under says

    Apr 9, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    I would say Mr Karroum would have no case as life insurance companies in this country usually have very strict exclusions when it comes to paying out and suspect dying as a result of being involved with a terrorist organisation regardless of where or when is among them

    Maybe dad should sue the Auburn mosque and its imans for indoctrinating his daughter . He could try issuing them with a writ ,and wait for their response.Bang,bang or boom,boom the most likely

  13. Angemon says

    Apr 9, 2016 at 6:25 pm

    Karroum, 22, changed from a “beautiful and loving” girl spending her days lounging on beaches to an armed soldier who died fighting for Islamic extremists in 2014.

    I bet he’s going to have the support of “feminist” organizations. His daughter died fighting as an armed soldier, and “feminists” love that kind of story because it pushes the narrative that there are no biological differences between males and females.

    On the other hand, she was probably killed by a muslim, and “feminists” can’t bring themselves to blame muslims for anything. What should they do?

    • Jay Boo says

      Apr 10, 2016 at 2:02 am

      Young girls used to dream of growing up to be a princess.

      That hopeful expectations has not changed except that feminist dogma has convince Hollywood to change that goal a bit.
      Young girls now dream of growing up to be a warrior princess.

  14. somehistory says

    Apr 9, 2016 at 7:41 pm

    Insurance companies ( I worked for one for quite some time) have clauses that say outright that they don’t pay when the insured engages in such things as *war* and the fraud dept. of the company should investigate his claims. If they have a good fraud department with well trained adjusters/investigators, this guy will not get a dime and he may just find himself being charged with a crime.

    And his *reasoning* that it was not *illegal* to travel there when she went, doesn’t hold water. She did something not covered by the policy.

  15. Baucent says

    Apr 9, 2016 at 8:50 pm

    I think Mr Karroum will find the small print on most life insurance policies excludes travel to war zones or those joining armed groups. Nice try but no chance of a payout here.

    He says his daughter introduced him to Islam? Sounds a bit odd, is he Lebanese or what? Are they secular muslims who got religious or converts to Islam?

  16. Westman says

    Apr 9, 2016 at 10:19 pm

    My name is Mohamed, but my daughter got me into religion….

    If you’re going to make up a story, please, at least make it believable.

    To quote and old jazz song:

    If you must keep talking,
    please try to make it rhyme
    Because your mind is on vacation,
    and your mouth is working overtime.

  17. gravenimage says

    Apr 9, 2016 at 10:51 pm

    Australia: Muslim whose daughter was killed waging jihad demands her life insurance
    ……………………..

    One other point–except for a handful of young parents, how many 22-year-olds have life insurance at all–especially *$300,000* worth?

    I’m sure it was the plan from the beginning for daddy dearest to collect tribute from the filthy Infidels. Shut him down.

  18. mortimer says

    Apr 9, 2016 at 11:08 pm

    Tragic that Muslims think this sort of suicide counts as insurable.

    And now the punchline…Mohamed Karroum …wait for it…learned Islam from his daughter…not from his parents in Berzerkistan.

    Uh-huh.

  19. Scot James says

    Apr 10, 2016 at 1:01 am

    That make on his forehead shows he has been a devout muslim for quite a number of years.

    To claim otherwise shows that he is a liar.

  20. Singh the Sikh says

    Apr 10, 2016 at 1:37 am

    Muslims…always looking for ways to the milk the system to the hilt, to the detriment of the rest if society. His daughter turns traitor and becomes an enemy combatant. When she gets herself killed, daddy expects insurance payment for it.

    We are all freaking sick and tired of
    Muslims and their issues, the their attempts to foist their problems on the rest of society. Reza ‘dickhead’ arse-lan, that is why Muslims are loathed – collectively they are not only bunch a bunch of miserable, they produce and let loose terrorists like no other community their self-righteousness is nauseating, not mention ingratitude and parasitic, demanding nature, and incessant complaining. No one asked you to come to the west. If you do not like it, please leave to one of the 54 Islamic havens: if Islam is so great why are you Muslims lining up at the borders of western countries begging to be let in. Have you no self- respect? Why come for the decadent west? Shows your hypocrital nature.

    • Singh the Singh says

      Apr 10, 2016 at 1:40 am

      The above was accidentally posted without beig corrected. I hope the point has been made though.

      • Shmooviyet says

        Apr 10, 2016 at 4:22 pm

        @Singh the Sikh:
        You came through loud ‘n’ clear– in particular the “… sick and tired of Muslims and their issues…” line.
        Bravo!

    • Jay Boo says

      Apr 10, 2016 at 1:56 am

      In China he might be shot for such arrogance and his remaining family members would have to pay for the bullet.

      • DP111 says

        Apr 11, 2016 at 9:41 am

        Right policy. China might even make them pay for their own bullets.

    • sham says

      Apr 10, 2016 at 11:49 am

      MUSLIM MIGRANT GOING TO WESTERN COUNTRY BEC’S THEY ARE BEGGING ALL THE PROBLEM ACROSS THE MIDDLE EAST 1) THEY KILLED 50,000 INNOCENT CHILDREN/WOMEN/MEN ACROSS AFGHANISTAN,THEY DON’T KNOW EVEN WHERE IS ‘NY’ AND WHERE IS ‘WTC’.2) THEY KILLED MILLIONS OF INNOCENT IRAQIS WITH A MYTH ” WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION ” 3) THEY GIVE MONEY /WEAPONS/SUPPORT FOR TERRORIST TO SPREAD VIOLENCE THROUGH THE COUNTRY…………. THEY SHOULD RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CRISES …………

  21. citycat says

    Apr 10, 2016 at 6:38 am

    He’s called Mohamed and his daughter got him into religion, and dead girls don’t speak.
    I’ve seen in several Muslim fathers the difference between the attitude towards a son and the attitude towards a daughter, maybe he planned the whole thing to raise dosh for the cause of the Islamic Vampire, maybe not.
    God comes first, out of transformed fear, before the children. Some fathers get sad but say nothing. Sad..

  22. Steven says

    Apr 10, 2016 at 7:24 am

    Is that a same guy who wanted to sue Federal Government who letted Amira go through the Custom Border in International Airport for oversea trip? Also this guy said he prayed very hard for one of Australian PM’s daughters to die in revenge for Amira’s killing. Amira’s silbing is very well aware of Amira’s oversea plan (to Syria to join terrorist’s group) while their father not aware of. I once looked in Amira’s facebook…. a strange muslim woman like her father.

  23. Jack Holan says

    Apr 10, 2016 at 8:47 am

    SO MUCH VICTIMHOOD IN THIS STORY! Even without the victimhood part, having working worked in the field for decades, I’m sure the policy had the standard 2-year Contestability period, automatic exclusion of War, riot or civil unrest, and can her father produce a body? In particular the Middle East is rife with Insurance Fraud, no death certificates, no bodies, but yes claims. The last question begs to be asked since often it’s a scheme for enrichment. Why was a 22 year old carrying $300,000 Life Insurance.Where was the insurable interest. Did she have young children, high income some one was dependent upon, a huge debt to be repaid (a house) that someone else would be responsible for and so forth. Perhaps the Police or Prosecuting Attorney should mention to the father what penalty will be for insurance fraud, lying in court (perjury) and so forth.

  24. Logical says

    Apr 10, 2016 at 9:26 am

    The fine print in the policy would preclude paying out in such a case. It’s a self inflicted outcome – hence insurance won’t pay out.

  25. Florida Jim says

    Apr 10, 2016 at 10:25 am

    Muslims are directly from Satan they will use whatever trick or devious activity to destroy the country they emigrate to as they are doing world-wide.Paying insurance claims on jihad victims is only something a devious muslim could dream up. they will laugh and mock infidels in their sneaky mosques overt his ruse.
    Perhaps all countries with muslims should charge muslims exptra fees to cover their coming jihad murders and the costs from them.Or simply don’t allow them in any normal society they have proven to be completely unfit.

  26. sham says

    Apr 10, 2016 at 11:56 am

    ISLAM PROHIBITED LIFE INSURANCE BASED ON INTEREST:

    1) All kinds of commercial insurance are clearly and undoubtedly ribaa (interest/usury). Insurance is the sale of money for money, of a greater or lesser amount, with a delay in one of the payments. It involves riba al-fadl (interest-based transaction) and riba al-nas’ (interest to be charged if payment is delayed beyond the due date), because the insurance companies take people’s money and promise to pay them more or less money when a specific accident against which insurance has been taken out happens. This is riba, and riba is forbidden in the Qur’aan, in many aayaat.

    2) All kinds of commercial insurance are based on nothing but gambling which is haraam according to the Qur’aan:

    “O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), and gambling, and Al-Ansaab (stone altars for sacrifice to idols etc.) and Al-Azlaam (arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of Shaytaan’s (Satan’s) handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful” (al-Maa’idah 5:90 – interpretation of the meaning).

    All kinds of insurance are kinds of playing with chances. They tell you, Pay this much money, then if this happens to you we will give you this much. This is pure gambling. Insisting on differentiating between insurance and gambling is pure stubbornness that is unacceptable to any sound mind. The insurance companies themselves admit that insurance is gambling.

    3) All kinds of insurance are forms of uncertainty, and transactions which involve uncertainty are forbidden according to many saheeh ahaadeeth, such as the hadeeth narrated by Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him):

    “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade transactions determined by throwing a stone and transactions which involved some uncertainty.” (Narrated by Muslim).

    [“Transactions determined by throwing a stone” – this was a type of transaction that was prevalent in the markets of pre-Islamic Arabia, whereby a stone was thrown by either the buyer or the seller, and whatever it touched, its transaction became binding. “Transactions which involved some uncertainty” – is a transaction in which there is no guarantee that the seller can deliver the goods for which he receives payment. Footnotes from the translation of Saheeh Muslim. (Translator)].

    All forms of commercial insurance are based on uncertainty of the most extreme kind. Insurance companies and those who sell insurance refuse to insure cases except where there is clear uncertainty in whether or not the condition being insured against will happen or not. In other words, the condition being insured against must have a possibility of happening or not happening (as opposed to, for example, someone who has a pre-existing condition, such as a person who is on death row applying for life insurance–translator.) Moreover, this transaction involves something uncertain, which is when an accident will happen and the extent of the damage caused. Hence insurance combines three kinds of extreme uncertainty.
    2:275. Those who eat Ribâ (usury) will not stand (on the Day of Resurrection) except like the standing of a person beaten by Shaitân (Satan) leading him to insanity. That is because they say: “Trading is only like Ribâ (usury),” whereas Allâh has permitted trading and forbidden Ribâ (usury). So whosoever receives an admonition from his Lord and stops eating Ribâ (usury) shall not be punished for the past; his case is for Allâh (to judge); but whoever returns [to Ribâ (usury)], such are the dwellers of the Fire – they will abide therein.
    2:276. Allâh will destroy Ribâ (usury) and will give increase for Sadaqât (deeds of charity, alms, etc.) And Allâh likes not the disbelievers, sinners.
    2:278. O you who believe! Be afraid of Allâh and give up what remains (due to you) from Ribâ (usury) (from now onward), if you are (really) believers.
    3:130. O you who believe! Eat not Ribâ (usury) doubled and multiplied, but fear Allâh that you may be successful.
    4:161.And their taking of Ribâ (usury) though they were forbidden from taking it and their devouring of men’s substance wrongfully (bribery, etc.). And We have prepared for the disbelievers among them a painful torment.
    6:146. And unto those who are Jews, We forbade every (animal) with undivided hoof, and We forbade them the fat of the ox and the sheep except what adheres to their backs or their entrails, or is mixed up with a bone. Thus We recompensed them for their rebellion [committing crimes like murdering the Prophets, eating of Ribâ (usury), etc.]. And verily, We are Truthful.

    MY QUESTION IS HOW CAN IT BEING ISLAMIC?

  27. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Apr 10, 2016 at 6:21 pm

    Good to know muslims might now be entitled to crime insurance. Nobody else is!

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