Yet the next time there is a jihad terror attack, many of the Leftists who are decrying this pledge will turn around and blame the Belgian government for not integrating the Muslim immigrants.
“It’s an extra tool for the immigration office to keep some people out of Belgium,” said Didier Vanderslycke from ORBIT, a pro-migrant group. “He said making would-be residents sign a declaration accepting gay rights or equality between men and women suggested that these values were not held by immigrants, and would deepen prejudice against them.”
But…what if they don’t accept gay rights or equality between men and women? Didier Vanderslycke is whistling in the dark, as is all the rest of the politically correct Left. Their willful blindness about Islam and Sharia in pursuit of “diversity” is foolish to the point of suicidal, but they keep charging ahead anyway.
Anyway, a pledge to integrate isn’t really going to be any help, because Muslims who are devout and knowledgeable about Islam will have no problem signing and then ignoring it, but it is a step in the right direction.
“Belgium wants migrants to sign pledge on integration,” by Magdalena Mis, Reuters, April 1, 2016:
LONDON, April 1 (Thomson Reuters Foundation) – Non-EU migrants wishing to live in Belgium will have to sign a statement declaring their acceptance of local values or see their residency claim rejected, a government official said, in a move campaigners fear will fuel anti-immigrant sentiment.
Parliament is expected to pass the proposal to introduce a “newcomers statement” in the next few months, according to a spokesman for Belgium’s secretary of state for asylum and migration, Theo Francken, who drafted the plan.
People moving to Belgium for more than three months would have to sign the statement which includes a pledge to prevent and report any attempts to commit “acts of terrorism”.
The statement would not apply to asylum seekers and students, the spokesman said.
“(Many people) are coming (to Belgium) from countries with other values,” Francken’s spokesman Laurent Mutambayi told the Thomson Reuters Foundation by telephone from Brussels.
“If they want to build their life here in Europe (we have) no problem with that but they have to sign this statement that they accept our values,” he added.
Mutambayi said those who are not deemed to be integrating sufficiently will not be allowed to stay in the country….
One of the Belgian organisations working with migrants criticised the proposal saying it was discriminatory and would fuel prejudice towards migrants.
“It’s an extra tool for the immigration office to keep some people out of Belgium,” said Didier Vanderslycke from ORBIT, an organisation working on diversity and migration.
“The integration process can start when you have the residence and not when you sign a document that you will integrate. It’s really a bad thing as a welcome (for) people,” he told the Thomson Reuters Foundation.
He said making would-be residents sign a declaration accepting gay rights or equality between men and women suggested that these values were not held by immigrants, and would deepen prejudice against them.

mccode says
Taqiyya will always leave them a back door.
Terry Stromsky says
Exactly- Take a look at Islam history. They will never assimilate, since this invasion has taken place we have had many terrorists attacks. People ignorance or sympathies will get them killed. This is an invasion they want to take over the world. This is a fact. Muslims truly believe their faith is the only true religion. Their is no place in the world ruled by Islam were Christians and Jews live equally. THIS IS A FACT. When they are the majority it’s OVER.
Shane says
True, and the traitorous left encourages Muslims and other third world immigrants to NOT assimilate because they view these immigrants as foot soldiers in the war against the West and Christian. The left encourages America’s Blacks to not assimilate which is why they are so many Blacks unemployed or in prison.
Spot On says
Muslim assimilation….mix one part excrement with 20 parts ice cream and what do you get? Something that tastes terrible and no one wants.
Sandra Lee Smith says
Exactly why they need to be required to give up Islam, if the wish to live elsewhere! It’s utterly incompatible with everyone else!.
Len Vaness says
Mccode has it EXACTLY right..Lying to promote Islam is REQUIRED of its followers!
gravenimage says
Belgium wants migrants to sign pledge to integrate; Leftists enraged
Yet the next time there is a jihad terror attack, many of the Leftists who are decrying this pledge will turn around and blame the Belgian government for not integrating the Muslim immigrants.
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Yup.
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“It’s an extra tool for the immigration office to keep some people out of Belgium,” said Didier Vanderslycke from ORBIT, a pro-migrant group.
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How dare Belgium possibly want to keep rapist and suicide bombers our of their country?
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“He said making would-be residents sign a declaration accepting gay rights or equality between men and women suggested that these values were not held by immigrants, and would deepen prejudice against them.”
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Uh huh. So the problem is not those who would assault gay people or rape women, but just those ‘racist’ Belgians who might become prejudiced by the very existence of this declaration.
As for the immigrants themselves, I know I would not be offended if a civilized nation giving me sanctuary wanted to ensure that I shared–or would at least abide by–their values.
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The statement would not apply to asylum seekers and students, the spokesman said.
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Well, that’s insane. You don’t want students or asylum seekers raping and murdering us, either.
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One of the Belgian organisations working with migrants criticised the proposal saying it was discriminatory and would fuel prejudice towards migrants.
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Some discrimination is *good*. Having the elementary gumption to realize that letting in masses of rapists and terrorists is a simple survival strategy.
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“The integration process can start when you have the residence and not when you sign a document that you will integrate. It’s really a bad thing as a welcome (for) people,” he told the Thomson Reuters Foundation.
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But how can they integrate at all if they don’t share our most basic values?
Of course, they will not.
Karen says
“But how can they integrate at all if they don’t share our most basic values?”
Yes, you’ve hit the bedrock fundamental, most elegantly simple question. I can hear Didier stammering as he fumbles for an lame PC answer.
DFD says
To Graven & Karen,
They can easily and truthfully sign that declaration. All they have to say is that they want to go to Molenbeck/Brussels. There sharia rules, they fully integrate there, and obey by the rules.
sarc/off.
Demsci says
Yes, how can they integrate if they don’t share our most basic values?? Or indeed may well hold opposing values to ours. And why is that farfetched? All we have to do is look at the record of previous Islamic immigrants, the values of the original countries and of course the texts and practices of Islam.
But it is as if many leftists ALSO have different values from us. Or lack of ours.
Such leftists are best answered by a spectacular growth of the anti-Islam-parties, whom these leftists profess to fear more than the refugees. To put pressure on them, indicating that they, with such foolish attitudes fuel the anti-I-parties.
Spot On says
The leftist minority values are closer to Muslim values than ours. This is why leftists love and protect Muslims. The MSM is composed of leftists and this gives them power over the majority.
Modern philosophies are derived from ancient philosophies. Some say that leftists are pagans and that barbaric Muslims are also pagans. This commonality makes them buddies with hatred for Christians and Jews or other religions.
Westman says
“But how can they integrate at all if they don’t share our most basic values?”
“But it is as if many leftists ALSO have different values from us. Or lack of ours.”
Here is the core difficulty. Neither the “refugees” or the uber-leftists have any intention of patriotism or defending their own country. Both groups see themselves as supra-national, are committed to dogma, and are parasitic to the strength of the nation.
However one group is committed to eventually ruling over the other, by force. One group is busy with a modern version of the “Roman Circus”, sans children, while the other is exploiting public assistance and reproducing without constraint.
Guess which group will ultimately dominate unless limited and which group gave away the future of their (few) offspring?
Keys says
@Westman
“Neither the “refugees” or the uber-leftists have any intention of patriotism or defending their own country. Both groups see themselves as supra-national, are committed to dogma, and are parasitic to the strength of the nation.”
Well said.
That’s how I see it happening, Westman. In the USA that is what Obama really meant when he said that he wanted to “fundamentally change America.” He, and his minions, want a different country, not a better country.
They will sing Kumbaya with the duped, but no matter how much the unduped want them to meant it, they don’t. The uber-left and the Islamists choose their ideaology over reality, no matter what.
Sandra Lee Smith says
The fact is the libs do hold different values too, and don’t share our any longer.
Michael Copeland says
Signing or swearing something for the filthy kuffar means little.
Pakistani muslim Faisal Shahzad became a U.S. citizen, swearing the Oath of Allegiance. Later he planted the unsuccessful Times Square car bomb.
His response to the judge? “I sweared, but I did not mean it”.
Easy when you know how.
gravenimage says
Important point, Michael.
But even this easily-flouted pledge is too much for Muslim apologists.
Demsci says
Yes, I know, really, but it is a small step in the right direction. Because valid evidence such as you just gave will also surely filter into the news. And other small steps may follow.
I foresee; Not demanding that immigrants ACCEPT our values, but CHOOSE our values over any opposing and competing values that they might well harbor, because of Islam, and thus clearly named.
– Choosing the whole democratic system, with it’s 5 pillars, and many values, laws, principles OVER and above any alternative governing system.
– Choosing, admittedly, those Muslims as closest allies, that also pledge thus,….
but THEN CHOOSING well-willing Democratic-citizen-Kuffars over Theocratic Totalitarian Muslims. Thus splitting the Ummah, risking enmity from fellow-Muslims.
And why not? A majority of our citizens do intend to enduringly safeguard Democracy against Totalitarian Theocracy don’t we? And for the full 100 % these Islamic State terrorists, and all those agressive violent Muslims ARE Anti-democratic are they not?
– Expanding this CHOICE-question to resident Muslims. And if need be to all citizens. Or alternatively; Politely asking such a choice from resident Muslims and at the same time from all citizens. Voluntary.
Yes, lying by Muslims will be omnipresent. But we can experiment with small steps, we can monitor Muslims, and catch them lying, reneging, and publicize this and propose penalties, even revoking citizenship.
And if it is discrimination that is worrying leftists and swingvoters and fence-sitters, we can ask or demand from ALL to CHOOSE our governing system and values over specifically named alternative opposing system and values. Citizens can give a good example to Muslims.
We can also ask; Why do you Muslims and Islam-defenders say on the one hand that Islam and Muslims are peaceful and neutral and harmless and then on the other hand refuse to endorse the democratic system and it’s accompanying values?
Is it because of severe enmity by fellow Muslims???
Demsci says
Addendum; For good order, I completely agree that Muslims, left by themselves, are utterly hopeless.
It is democracy that I want to triumph, and for that I need a 51 % majority in parliament to pass legal valid laws. And so I aim for that by trying to find something the swingvoters can compromise on. It is democratic pressure on Muslims and leftists among us that I seek, NOT goodwill from ANY Muslim.
Karen says
“The integration process can start when you have the residence and not when you sign a document that you will integrate.”
So Didier’s position is…..come across with the taxpayer funded goodies first, and then ask for integration? I’m guessing Didier is also against deporting would-be terrorists without first a billion dollar investigation, trial, appeal, re-trial, 2nd appeal, etc.
Instead of deepening prejudice against the immigrants, signing a declaration promising to embracing native values would actually *raise* regard for the immigrants, ease anxiety, and build trust. Of course, liars could still get through the system, but it would send a strong signal that Belgium cares about it’s culture, and who it lets in.
David says
These people have no desire or intentions of integrating into European societys. And the values of any free and open society are utterly alien to them.
They should not be allowed in to these free nations at all. There is no reason to let them in or to give them financial aid that should be reserved for citizens.
They will just spit on us. Rape our wives and daughters. And try to murder us.
is anyone listening???
Marcel Bérubé says
Dear Didier Vanderslycke,
it is a great pleasure for me to see that you still believe in Santa Claus at
your age. You are completely right . it is a real shame that muslims are not more inte-
grated and assimilated in the belgium community and the fault come completely from
the belgium authorities. What do you want ? They don’t understand they have to do
more for the muslims than they already do .
Muslims since they are muslims have the privilege to have the
best religion in the world , islam, to have the best , the good and the only real god ,Allah ,
and , fortunately enough , most of them speak the same language as this god speak:
arabic language . How fortunate they are.
Since muslims have all these assets, thsi give them a great
number of privileges. First of all, being muslim give them the privillege to despise other
men and women on earth who don’t have the privilege to be born in the right religion with
the only good god, Allah , the famous . Since christians , jews , bouddhists , pagans and
atheists are so off the good road , this give muslims a great responsability in the world: they
have to teach us islam so our eyes opened up and can see for ourselves how such a reli-
gion is wonderful for us all on earth . Islam is such a good religion that when it is somewhe-
re, it must dominates everybody and everything. And , fortunately again, Mohammed
saw this .
As you might know , Mr Vanderslycke ,everything has been foreseen. Mo-
hammed tells us when to sleep and how , he told us how to visit friends and when , how to
knock on their doors. Everything . Even how to pis , fart and , sorry for telling it bu t, sh… t.
As you see , as a muslim , we don’t need anymore to think by ourselves everything is
already set . We just have to act . Having a head is not a necessity in islam . That’s why
beheading someone is not such a crime . We just take off something that is useless to man-
kind as Allah said .
For those who don’t want to see the world our way , we consider them
as inferiors. We have nothing to learn from them and they have all to learn from us. And ,
for such inferiors people, since they are the worst thing god has created, it gives us the
permission to take advantage of them . Non-muslims call this robbery or rapt or violen-
ce but for us it is just plain justice since they don’t want to live by Allah’s words. The day
they will submit to Allah’s words and law , charia , there will be no problem . As you can
see , we are in Belgium to bring you Allah’s words and give you the chance to have a
good afterlife , in Paradise. That is our intentions and you can judge by yourself that
so we bring you the best on earth . Meanwhile , before all Belgium is converted to our
god ,better than yours, we have to stay together so you corrupt us the least. We can not
work too much with you as bosses because you will corrupt us again. Using your social
benefits is not a sin to our eyes. Allah told us we can take advantage of non believers
since they are in a low class compare to us .
So , Mr Vandedslycke, I thank you for your support and hope that
you will help us achieve our goals so to have peace in Belgium by worshipping our god,
submit to our beliefs and laws. You are already doing well . You just need a little more
effort so that all our demands are fulfilled.When you will be competely like us , everything
will be fine . Thank you , Mr, Vanderslycke.
mortimer says
Marcel Bérubé has a superb understanding of the Marxist mindset and of the supremacist Muslim mindset.
Marxists live a utopian fantasy in Spain and Muslims live an arrogant fantasy of all fascists as they plan the humiliation and extermination of kafirs.
Fessitude says
Pledge to Integrate (any Western country):
I, the undersigned, Habibi Mohammed Abdul-Aziz, pledge to assimilate into the filthy Kuffar society, and I promise to be a good citizen and never explode or stab anyone, since Islam is a religion of peace. Okay, where do I get my free phone and food stamps…?
(Wow, this is easy! Are the non-Leftist Kuffar really this stupid…?)
Hope says
“It’s an extra tool for the immigration office to keep some people out of Belgium.”
Yeah, no sh*t, huh? Let’s keep out the people who would be coming in to make trouble, there’s a concept. This is the problem. Any and all attempts to protect the rights and the safety of European citizens forced to live in this hellish migrant situation will be thwarted by the left, or by Muslims crying about bigotry.
Wellington says
It is deuce difficult not to come to the conclusion that being a modern leftist is a form of mental illness. At the very least it is indicative of a woeful lack of common sense.
mortimer says
The Leftists are constantly contradicting all of their supposed values by supporting more Muslim immigration.
When their is such a gaping contradiction of principles…such humbug…such unbelievable denial… something else is going on. The Left is engaged in a war against Western civilization called by some ‘Le grand remplacement’…the Grand Replacement.
The purpose is the ethnic cleansing of Europe and the Americas.
mortimer says
In other words, the Left actually wants to bring in people who will adamantly refuse to assimilate. That is part of the Leftist utopian agenda.
R Cole says
From which Islamic country is there equality between the sexes?
The Left’s calling the observation of reality ‘racist’ – is the real insanity.
Clearly there has been an issue with the integration of Muslims in Europe – yet for all the years that the Left have been calling people ‘racists’ – they have done nothing to change the lack of integration among Muslims.
When immigration policies are not working or present challenges – like the threat of terrorism – commonsense says stop the flow migrants or pay closer attention to those you do allow in.
And what is the Left’s response – the same as it always is ‘That’s racist!’
The world according to the Left – the fact that Muslim immigrants in Europe have not been integrated – ‘Is racist’
And likewise any attempt to do something – to change or improve the immigrant situation – is also called ‘racism’.
We can be sure what the Left will say!!
In this sense – EU governments should know that the picketing Left are a minority.
That is why running purely on an ‘anti-racism/pro-Islam’ mass migration/ Islamic accommodation platform – has proven time and time again to be an unsuccessful election campaign strategy.
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Europe’s Islamic maths problem
Really – if Muslim immigration into Europe [mainly through arranged marriages] was looked at in terms of economics – then the integration issues would be far less pronounced. In most countries Muslim migrants are freely allowed in – via marriage to live in communities which are almost entirely dependent on the state.
[In the past decade several countries have made changes to decrease the state dependency of incoming migrants. But this has no effect on the people who have already immigrated.]
This is what EU governments are doing with the hardworking taxpayers’ money – funding the lives of people – the majority of whom when polled state they would prefer to live under sharia law.
The public has a right to question this arrangement. They are funding it. And EU leaders should be accountable – rather not to those in North Africa – but to the people in their own nations.
Paul says
“Leftists enraged” Well, they would be wouldn’t they.
They can just drop dead, all of them.
“ORBIT, an organisation working on diversity and migration.”
Every time I come across words like “diversity”, I know what
they always invariably entail. I think many others have also woken
up to these Orwellian buzzwords which no longer mean what
they are meant to.
Singh the Sikh says
Hahaha! I am laughing in exasperation at the dumbness of the proposal. Don’t they know by now that Muslims do not come assimilate but to prolethesise and prevail over the hosts, by hook or crook. They are willing to bomb, shoot, stab their way to get what they want. Belgian policy makers are not only cowardly they have shit for brains, first for exposing their country to the Islamist scourge and secondly for their impotency in the face of a growing and obvious threat, or clear and present danger. When dealing with Islamists the cost of stupidity, uncertainty and inaction is certain death as Belgians recently experienced and unfortunately will experience again. It’s so obvious to us from afar that Belgians are engaged in a fight for the ownership of their country so why can’t they see the damn obvious? It’s baffling to say the least.
Keys says
Once, when a UPS man delivered a package of things I had ordered as Christmas gifts, I signed “Santa Claus” on his electronic pad.
As he hurried back to his truck I yelled, “Hey, I signed Santa Claus!” Without stopping or turning around he shouted back, “Just so I have a signature!”
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Belgian authorities could use electronic pads too. With a data base police could quickly prove to terrorists captured alive that they had broken their integration promises.*
*NB: Not effective for suicide bombers, but may work in hostage-negotiation situations.
Janeatte says
With all what happened in Europe the west have deep ignorance when it comes to Muslims.the government wants them to sign paper the immigrant applications to integrate in the country,Europe don’t know the Quran tought them it is ok to lie for helping Islam or Muslims.what ever they sign they will never do against their religion their religion tell them to acquire the country that they live in it ,by the time when they become the majority Europe will disappear,become Islamic state .
Europe ,America ,wake up before it is too late
Islam_Macht_Frei says
“(Many people) are coming (to Belgium) from countries with other values,”
“Other values” indeed.
Angemon says
Keeping homophobes and misogynists out of your country is a bad thing?
mortimer says
A. wrote: “Keeping homophobes and misogynists out of (Belgium) is a bad thing?”
You would think the cultural Marxists would agree! But they want it both ways…bring in misogynists, Jew haters and Gay haters into Belgium in large numbers. If the rape of Belgian women triples or quadruples, so what? If the attacks on Gays quadruples, they’ll commission a study and reject it on some technicality. Nothing will be done as the haters of Western civilization work together to bring about its destruction.
However, what will the Leftards do when they wish to dismount the Islamic tiger they ride on and which they have fed until it is of gigantic size?
How will they dismount the tiger when it is too big to control?
Paul says
The situation in which those who have ridden that tiger for
so long now find themselves is summed up in this video :
mortimer says
Why do immigrants have the option of not endorsing Belgium’s values decided by Belgium’s legislatures who were voted into their offices by the Belgian people?
Could it be that Muslims don’t want to become Belgian, but merely want to take advantage of the welfare opportunities?
If they cannot accept Belgium as it is, they should live in a country whose values they share…such as Berzeristan or Soddy Barbaria.
Bill says
A Pledge. This is as silly as it gets. Leftists want a meaningless feel good “why can’t we all just get along” pledge to pave the way for muslim invasion and conquest. And then those that are more to the left protest against it. If Europe,Canada and, soon America, were not so sick and self-loathing, this would be hilarious.
Matthieu Baudin says
“…The statement would not apply to asylum seekers…”
It looks dead in the water already if asylum seekers/refugees are exempt from a vow of allegiance. What nonsense is this, we go out of our way to accommodate them and they aren’t expected to reciprocate with a commitment to the law and basic human rights? So we leave this loophole wide open for thousands more deranged Jihad bullies, thugs and assassins to pour into Europe? We are the victims, and the idiots drafting this rubbish need a good dressing down and reorientation to the current reality.
scherado says
Do they do “April 1st” in the EU? You know, April-fools jokes? There is no doubt that this is a step in the right direction, in that someone is going to get the right idea one day: identifying “values” means they are getting warm. It’s going to be a long decade…
Mark A says
Like any such pledge is going to make any difference.
Islam permits lying to advance the cause of Islam so Muslim migrants can lie when they make any such pledge or declaration.
Robert has written extensively about taqiyya (the religiously sanctioned use of deception to advance Islam) so it shouldn’t be any surprise to regular JW readers that the devout Muslim might simply lie when making the pledge.
Mirren10 says
http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Didier-Vanderslycke/103573595
Vanderslycke is associated with PICUM, a leftist organisation apparently dedicated to overseeing the ‘rights’ of migrants, at the expense of indigenous Europeans.
As has been noted by others here, in particular Wellington, we are put in greater danger by the activities of creatures like Vanderslycke, than even the jihadists. The rot from within.
I agree with Robert that, it is a small step in the right direction, even though, as he cogently says, pious mohammedans would simply sign it, and then carry on their jihad.
But, those who sign, and then renege on it, should immediately be deported back to their country of origin.
Far better, of course, if **no mohammedans** were allowed into the West in the first place.
Mark says
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These videos need to be shared as widely and rapidly as possible
Florida Jim says
A pledge from liars is as worthless as Obama’s pledge “you can keep your doctor, you can keep your healthcare” Liars say what is necessary to win but LIARS LIE ENDLESSLY.
Ayatollahs, Imams’ Holy Men and Mosques worldwide are out to convert everyone period.
Anglosaxon says
Dunno which moron came up with this stupid Idea. These people learn to lie to infidels in their mothers wombs. Signing a bit of paper will never in a million years make them loyal or patriotic to any infidel country
Len Vaness says
If I understand Makr and Taqiyya correctly, having a Muslim take a pledge is a waste of time.