This fatwa has important implications for the question of whether devout, observant and knowledgeable Muslims can be loyal citizens of nations not ruled by Islamic law.
“Chanting ‘Bharat Mata ki jai’ is against Islam: Darul-Uloom Deoband,” by Mohammad Ali, The Hindu, April 1, 2016 (thanks to Lookmann):
In a fatwa issued to Muslims, the seminary said the slogan goes against “tauheed” (the idea of worshipping one god), which forms the core of Islam.
Amid an ongoing debate in the country over “Bharat Mata ki jai”, Darul-Uloom Deoband, the leading Islamic seminary of the Indian subcontinent, on Friday said that chanting of the slogan was against Islam. In a fatwa issued to Muslims, the seminary said Muslims should not chant the slogan because it goes against “tauheed” (the idea of worshipping the only God) which forms the core of Islam. Darul-Uloom Deoband referred to the Constitution of India and said forcing people to chant the slogan goes against the Constitution of India which allows its citizens to practice their own faiths.
The fatwa comes days after it was reported from the national capital that a madrassa student was allegedly beaten by some people after he refused to chant the slogan, “Bharat Mata ki jai”. The seminary issued the fatwa in response to several letters from Muslims asking it’s view about chanting the slogan which has seen intense polarisation over the issue.
The BJP reacted strongly to the fatwa with Union Minister Sadhvi Niranjan Jyoti saying that by giving such an opinion the seminary “behaved like a hardliner”.
The fatwa, a copy of which is with The Hindu, said, “After the ‘Vande Mataram’ controversy, now people are being forced to chant ‘bharat mata ki jai’. Actually, some of the believers in Hindu faith consider India a goddess whom they worship. They treat the goddess ‘bharat mata’ the patron God and caretaker of the country. This belief certainly goes against the very idea of ‘tauheed’ which forms the core of belief in Islam. The followers of Islam can not compromise with the idea of ‘tauheed’“.
The fatwa went on to explain in detail about the idea of love for the country, and said, “India is our motherland and we love it a lot. But we can not worship even our motherland because of the essential belief that we worship only one God and that is Allah”.
“The Constitution of India allows its every citizen the freedom to profess and practice his/her religion. Nobody has the right to go against the Constitution and take law in their own hands by forcing somebody to do some thing which goes against the idea of the Constitution of India,” concluded the fatwa….

miriamrove says
The slogan is nu islamic, but raping and sodomizing a 9 year old girl is perfectly islamic. m
Shane says
Raping infidel women and children is very Islamic as their false prophet did it. Anything Muhammad did is okay for Muslims to do!
خَليفة says
Being Islamic, or un-islamic has no relation to bring good, or bad.
It seems though that so many things that are “Islamic” are deemed by the civilized world to be bad, stupid or both.
These are a few “Islamic” things:
-Throwing homosexuals off high places, stoning them if they manage to survive the fall
-Taking land, money and women from non-Muslims
-Sex slaves
-child marriage, infant thighing ( no age requirement for marriage in Islam )
-stoning adulterers
-women must be subservient to men, no such thing as spousal rape
-women are considerd mentally deficient ( Mohammed said this )
-hating dogs ( loyal friend of mankind )
-marrying your first cousin
-beating your wife for any reason you want
-killing your children or grandchildren on suspicion of apostasy ( legal under Sharia )
-FGM – femal genital mutilation
-temporary marriage ( or as we call it in the west, prostitution )
-Islamic science ( women make sperm in ribs, earth is flat, sun orbits earth, moon makes its own light)
You can add countless “Islamic” stupidities to this list.
Here are some non-Islamic things:
-giving charity and helping strangers who are not in your religion
-treating all people equally regardless of gender, race, culture or creed
the renegade says
Absolutely true. But to a brainwashed, goat faced, imbecillic skull cap wearing Muslim mind, doubt whether sound reasoning and even science has a place in logical thinking and reason.
Dont under-estimate the muslims to come up with even more “stupid rationalisations” for justifying every stupid thing written in quran and sharia and even justifying every inhumane and satanic acts and thoughts of the satanic messenger of satan (allah) named Mu-ham-mad. Point in reason:
– gays are killed because otherwise inbreeding would cease and muslims would stop having families as big as soccer or cricket teams;
– woman are beaten because otherwise they would refuse to be in a polygamous marraige and allah would get angry as men will be refused all the sex in the world and would refuse to become a child bride for an old worn out prick;
– woman should be Accompanied by a male guardian otherwise they will run away from the slave master they call their husband;
– the universe is flat and sun revolves around the earth… ” because stone cold said so” oops, because Muhammad said so and that is the way Allah likes it.
– non muslims are treated like sub humans so that they finally will get tired of all the free money (jiziya) they give to muslims and rationally think and convert to islam which will give you unlimited wives.. war booty… 66 virgins after jihad.. wife beating rights… a get out of hell card… and be a paedophile without it being a punishable offence…. rape a woman in presence of three witnesses and get away with rape… kill your non muslim Or muslim enemies by falsely accusing people of apostasy…
With so many perks in Islam why would a criminal pass up on the oppurtunity not to be a muslim… it is a paradise on earth and u dont have wait for Jihad In order to have sex with your virgins….
It is an offer u cant refuse…. just say yes or else…….
Allah’s-gonna-fu*k-u-in-a-bar…..
Charli Main says
Why on earth would Muslims sing ” Bharat Mata ki jai” ??? This would be an admission that they were living in a Hindu country and not an Islamic one.
Its the same reason that Muslims will never sing ” God save the Queen” ” The Star Spangled Banner” or the “La Marseillaise”. Muslims will never integrate into and become citizens of the countries that have been foolish enough to take them in.
In the classic lie that all Muslims subscribe to, when its suits their Islamic objectives, ” I SWORE BUT I DID NOT MEAN IT “
Sam says
iSLAM is a disgusting cult. That is all.
Angemon says
OK, let me see if I can wrap my head around this: muslims refuse to chant “Victory to Mother India” because the Indian Constitution says Indian citizens have freedom of worship (and apparently “Victory to Mother India” is worshipping something, somehow and it affects their worship of allah, somehow), but the kind of muslim who is devout enough to not want to shout “Victory to Mother India is, in all likelihood, devout enough to know that the Indian Constitution is a man-made law that contradicts sharia law and therefore, un-islamic.
I’m going to go on a limb here and say that muslims who refuse to shout “Victory to Mother India” are not loyal citizens to begin with…
Well, so what? Some Hindus may consider India a goddess but muslims don’t. I’m going to call BS on this one.
seismann says
Stupid mullahs;they never think or rationalize ;How is this slogan different from “Jai Hind” that they .dont have a problem with;?how is “mother India” different from “motherland Pakistan ” that Pakistani Muslims do n’t have a problem with;Neither Bangladeshi have with “Jai Bangla” .?How is calling India metaphorically as “mother” equates with not having “tauheed”?India is not being called God?
Jerry says
And if muslims are obliged to value their religion above country, then it follows that they must prefer sharia above the laws of their host country. Not to mention an obligation to jihad against non-muslims. And this is what concerns me. I’m surrounded by moderates that value their own laws above ours as a religious duty to a god that demands my subjugation or death. Replace “allah” with “Hitler” and it would be hard to see a substantive difference. Both are a violent and supremacist ideology, one for religion the other for race. Nothing to see here, I guess. Just keep moving and pretend it’s a religion of peace. That seems to be the current meme.
David says
“Ultimately, we (Muslims) can never be full citizens of this country…because thee is no way we can be fully committed tot he institutions and ideologies of this country.” -Ihsan Bagby, -CAIR
“If we are practicing muslims, we are above the law of the land.” -Musfafa Carroll, Cair TX
the renegade says
I have an alternative thought on this. For citzens of most countries, a country is a mother land (except Germany). It is the mother that nurtures, nourishes and sustains. Some may say it has a religious twist to it, but for me the above is good enough.
Like Muhammad, i dont think Muslims have any love or respect for their mothers which is why they committ such heinous crimes against women and which is why a woman’s role in Islam is that of being a Man’s slave.
I remember the story when a man shot dead his own mother when he reported his own mother to ISIS for suggesting that they leave Islamic state.
These imbicles and monsters loose their humanity when they fully embrace Islam. It is like choosing Satan’s path and rejecting noble values taught by Moses or Jesus or Lord Buddha or Lord Krishna or Lord Mahaveera or Lord Rama or Lord Hanuman.
Islam is a religion made to favour men be it having multiple wives to having “war booty”.
How can such Muslim sub humans ever chant “Bharat maya ki jai”.
What is a better slogan for these bastards is Jai Islam or jai Pakistan or Jai Muhammad.
We have been battling these cretons for more than a mellinia now. Time has come to end Muhammad’s adharma in a decisive way once and for all.
Islam’s supremacy lies in Mecca and Medina. Conquest and annilation of these lands will end Islam’s chokehold of death on humanity.
It is a choice similar to what Neo made in the movie “the Matrix” – choose to fight Muhammad (like the character of Smith who endlessly replicates himself to destroy the world) or accept a reality of humanity’s demise……
I have chosen the former option like Neo and will fight this scourge called Islam and the demon Muhammad.
Jai Mother India!
Jai to all mothers of the world! What would we do without you!
My love, honour and respect to all mothers…. God’s best creation!
Jai Mothers!
Salome says
Not sure about only Germany not being a motherland. The usual word for attachment to one’s homeland is ‘patriotism’, which suggests that there are a lot of fatherlands out there. Indians, however, and Russians, are clearly matriotic.
Kepha says
C’mn, _Patria_, as in “pro patria mori”, means “Vaterland” [Achtung!]. Chinese also uses _zu guo_ (祖国), which is literally “ancestral land”, and Chinese culture is very patriarchal in its concept of ancestry.
@renegade: Some of us note that the Fifth Commandment reads “Honor thy father and thy mother”.
Kolga says
Agree totally.
Singh the Sikh says
That’s why Muslims are known as the enemies within. There are many good Indian Muslim patriots. But they are outnumbered by the traitors who would murder them at the drop of a hat if they show any outward signs of patriotism. An Indian Muslim patriot is considered a traitor within the Indian Muslim ummah.
It’s like wrestling with a multi-headed Python that won’t die and gradually chokes and overcomes you.
gravenimage says
No surprises here…
Truth Seeker says
Indian Muslims might have happily accepted to Utter Pakistan Ki Jai.
Thought_Weaver says
Nah nah nah! You guys have got it all wrong. Islam is a religion of peace. Its Hindus, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Sikhs, Jains, Zoroastrians, Yazidis and any other religion in this world that is not islam who are behind all the allahu akbars and inshallas. Infact those who place the rug, offer namaz and then PEACEFULLY blow themselves up are JEWwwwws! It’s a Zionist conspiracy u c. Not Muslims, Not In Their Name. Quran is the clearest of all books, with clear signs and directives for one and all to understand and that is why Allah has written it in Arabic, Yup, See you know Arabic now, don’t you? You bloody Kaafir, spreading mischief in the land. You see that is the reason why Islam does not have so many difrerent off shoots like Shia, Sunni, Sufi, Ahmedis, Alawites, Druzes, Salafis, Wahabbis, you name it. And remember when ever you try and quote the so called violent verses in the Quran, you are actually quoting it “out of its god damned context”. But if you quote the genuinely peaceful ones, context any one? The so called Islamic state does not quote and justify anything from the Quran or Hadis, they quote scriptures from the Vedas. Period. Oh yes, ISLAMIC state is not ISLAMIC. Didn’t Obama stress it enough for you guys? You hypocrites.
Truth Seeker says
Islam is Religion of Peace? Then Wherefrom the Motivation comes to Butcher Innocents, that is an everyday affair today?
Why this sort of Peace is not available with people of other Religions?
KnowThyEnemy says
From the fatwa-
“They treat the goddess ‘bharat mata’ the patron God and caretaker of the country. This belief certainly goes against the very idea of ‘tauheed’ which forms the core of belief in Islam. The followers of Islam can not compromise with the idea of ‘tauheed’“.”
If Hindus were smart they would point out to Muslims that it is Hinduism that has its core the Oneness of God, not Islam. At the core of Islam is Muhammad. Muslims believe what they believe because Muhammad told them to believe so. Everything in Islam revolves around Muhammad. Muhammad is the one who passed on to people what [he claimed] was revealed to him, and Muslims have no option but to trust his claims. If Muslims believe in “one God”, that is only because Muhammad told them so. If Muhammad had said something else, Muslims would have believed THAT. Secondly, it is Muhammad who is Muslims’ role model. Hence, Islam is nothing but a personality cult show centered on Muhammad.
Contrast this with Hinduism. There are various Hindu schools of thought and there are many scriptures, and almost all teach that ultimately there is only one Supreme soul (Brahman, Self). Regarding God, the Hindu teaching in all major sects is that the various “Gods” of polytheistic Hinduism are a manifestation of THAT One God. Bottomline: The various sages and seers of Hinduism who tried to explain things via their own paths almost all concluded to the presence of one God.The sages/seers are not at the core; their teachings regarding the Self and God is what is at the core. That is, Hindus don’t much care about the sages and seers, they care about the teachings of Self and God.
Hindus need to use the fatwa as an excuse to tell Muslims that they are nothing but moronic Muhammadans who were fooled by the cult leader Muhammad!
Hermes says
Almost always side with the counter-jihad movement. But I am not on this one. ‘Bharata Mata’ is indeed Mother India, personified as a Goddess (Durga if memory serves me correctly). I wouldn’t expect anyone but Hindus to chant this. Hindu sects are generally accepting of polytheism. Islam is not.
Thought_Weaver says
Then why not side with counter-jihad this time? Is it because it concerns Hinduism? Or maybe because you really don’t know about Vedic Dharma. So please do some research you will see how monotheism is ingrained at the heart of Vedic Sanskriti. But my argument is not about proving whether Hindus are polytheists or not. Why should it even matter when it concerns combatting Islamic incompatibility and supremacy with every other religion or culture on the planet? Yes you are right Hindus are accepting of polytheism and that is the reason they can go pray in a church,masjid or synagogue without any qualms. Because they believe them all to be manifestations of the one divine consciousness. But the truth, as I have learned is that all religions are not the same. If a god really exists then he has given us brains to use it and not follow anything or anyone blindly. Any religion, if it cannot stand on the pedestal of reason, should not be claimed as the ultimate truth. You are not only deceiving yourself but deceiving your kids and others too. Hindus being polytheists are not infringing on anybody’s rights en masse. Agreed, there are Hindu hardliners and certain cultural facets of Hinduism which are really disgusting. But people are doing away with them gradually but surely. Hinduism, if you consider it as a religion (because dharma is something people of faith will not so easily understand. Even among Hindus there is a bengali saying “Bisshashe Miloye Krishna Tarke Bahu Dur” meaning one can attain the darshan of God Krishna with belief but not with Reason. There you go, Religion in Reason out) is a very flexible one. They believe in Karma (Your actions and thoughts have consequenses) which nowadays more and more westerners are taking a liking to. I don’t mean to offend any one but one does not need the Ten Commandments or follow a so called prophet of God to be a good human being. Bharat Mata Ki Jai. Jai Hind!
Champ says
“Thoughtless_Weasel”, this is Jihad Watch, not Faith Watch. Quit attacking everyone just because they believe in God. On another thread you were attacking Christians and Christianity.
Focus, and take aim at the real enemy: islam and company!
Jay Boo says
Yes Champ
You are correct
( Thoughtless_Creeper ) is at it again.
Singh the Sikh says
Hermes,
What’s biting your arse if Hindus believe in polytheism. Who are you to judge…some divine being? Or self-appointed arbiter on religious morals? Hindus can believe in whatever, it is their damn business, as long as they are not forcing their beliefs on anyone, not blowing up non-Hindus in the name of Lord Rama or Lord Krishna, most people wouldn’t care less who they pray to. The problem at hand is the supremacist and murderous ideology that goes by the name of Islam bent on conquest and mowing down innocents all over the world in their bid to make us bend to their will by the use of force and violence on a massive scale.
That’s what we dealing with here Hemes. Few people give a rats arse about what Hindu believe in.
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dumbledoresarmy says
Offtopic a bit, but I recently came across something interesting, from last year.
A ‘Times of India’ interview with Donald Trump, on the subject of India and Pakistan and, specifically, Paki nukes.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/India-is-the-check-to-Pakistan-Donald-Trump-declares/articleshow/49089032.cms
India is the check to Pakistan, Donald Trump declares
TNN | Sep 24, 2015, 02.42 PM IST
“…On an American radio show on Monday, Trump called Pakistan “probably the most dangerous” country in the world today, adding that the only country that can “check” Pakistan is India.
Pakistan is “a serious problem” because they have nuclear weapons that work and “a lot of them”, just like North Korea and its “mad man”, Trump explained…”.
I’m not sure that this particular interview and article was covered by Jihadwatch last September (please correct me everybody if I am wrong).
But I found it interesting: both those few sentences from Trump that, in very simple language, in fact cover a LOT of ground, and then the Comments at Times of India, from non-Muslim Indians reacting… and HOOOO BOY! – the reaction from the Pakistani commenters, they were **hysterical**, in total meltdown.
My conclusion from reading the article: Trump knows a whole damn sight more about the Ummah and its various ugly local manifestations, than he is letting on. I think he’s keeping his cards close to his chest because, should he become POTUS, he doesn’t want the Enemy to know, ahead of time, what precisely he is likely to do.
He was worrying about Paki nukes all the way back in the 1980s and I don’t think he has *stopped* worrying throughout the entire 29 years since then; and now I’m *sure* he worries about Iranian nukes, too.
the renegade says
Good point. But for every step India takes against Pakis, the west and china counter balances it. Pakistan the Islamic hell hole and the west sure make strange bedfellows but it is only until the time that all collateral damage of Pakis aided by western activities is restricted to india and west is unaffected, that the West will keep merrily doing what they are doing along with China. It is the sad truth. Although generally western people are good, they are governed by rogue politicians that are bank rolled by special interest groups with large stacks of cash flowing from likes of China and Saudi (as Pakistan has Islamic bomb).
What is scary is the nukes Pakis have could so easily be transported and blown up at the destination of their choosing using jihadi cross border infiltration which these Paki rats specialise in.
India has been at the fore front of battling these Islamic terrorists for centuries and has been taking all the casualties while west along with China propped up rogue regimes (including US propping up China by make these Communist rogues its biggest trading partners and then hypocritically saying down with communism) including tyrannical muslim kings and dictators.
Genocide of hindus was happening in Kashmir, no peep from the west that supported Pakis and was generous with them when it came to immigration, aid and weapons, counter balancing everything thst India did. If it wasnt for west, India would have finished Pakistan as they are a nuisance like a mosquito, but with a powerful virus in its bite that can kill a person with a dangerous disease.
My western friends you have let in very poisonous snakes into your back yard that will multiply, should have consulted the Hindus first. In London i saw Burroughs populated by these shit head Bangladeshis and Pakis who have not adopted the refined and humanitarian values like being honest, being polite and courteous, compassionate and overall tolerant towards one another which is the trait of an average Londoner.
West always disparages India, if one muslim is killed in riots which they started it makes headlines in bbc and cnn. But hindu genocide happening in Kashmir, bangladesh and pakistan there is no mention. Who is bank rolling media – the islamists.
I hope and pray that Donald trump wins and he opens eyes of the west who have been foolishly aiding and abetting the crimes of Islam in this modern day and age when people are supposed to be aware of at least who their real enemy is with so much information available.
Truth Seeker says
Indian Muslims think their Strength is High Enough to Demand Dictate to Indian Government. Their Trojan Horses in tn Political Parties and in Government Machinery will come to their their support, Innocently.