On “Islamophobia,” see here. On pandering to the Muslim community in Detroit and counting on Muslims there to aid in counterterror efforts, remember that Hamas-linked CAIR has more than once advised Muslims not to cooperate with law enforcement. In January 2011, its San Francisco chapter featured on its website a poster that read, “Build A Wall of Resistance / Don’t Talk to the FBI.” In November 2014, Hamas-linked CAIR-Florida’s “14th Annual Banquet Rooted in Faith” in Tampa distributed pamphlets entitled “What to do if the FBI comes for you” and featuring a graphic of a person holding a finger to his lips in the “shhh” signal. Another Hamas-linked CAIR pamphlet, entitled “Know Your Rights: Defending Rights, Defeating Intolerance” featured a graphic of the Statue of Liberty likewise making the “shhh” symbol. Cyrus McGoldrick, a former official of Hamas-linked CAIR’s New York chapter, even threatened informants, tweeting with brutal succinctness: “Snitches get stitches.” Zahra Billoo of Hamas-linked CAIR-San Francisco regularly tweets that Muslims have no obligation to talk to the FBI, and should contact Hamas-linked CAIR if the FBI asks to talk to them.
“FBI Director: Rise of Islamophobia is a ‘concerning issue,’” by Samer Hijazi, Arab American News, April 5, 2016:
DETROIT – During a visit to Detroit, FBI Director James Comey said that the rise of Islamophobia has been a concerning issue to the government agency.
“It worries me,” Comey said. “What we tell folks is that if you think something is going on, then tell us. It’s a huge part of our responsibility that we take very seriously–to make sure people aren’t picked on, bullied, harmed, scared or intimidated by virtue of the way they look, where they worship, or how they act.”…
His latest visit to the motor city was led by a busy itinerary that included meeting with community leaders on Tuesday morning. Among them were Osama Siblani, publisher of The Arab American News; Ali Jawed, founder of the LAHC; Chaldean leader Nabby Yono; Sueheila Amen and Dr. Hoda Amine….
Siblani raised concerns about local residents being wrongfully placed on terrorist watch lists and having little to no avenues in getting their names removed. Come [sic] said he would look into the issue with Homeland Security to find a resolution….
During a press conference at the FBI Detroit Field Office on Tuesday afternoon, leaders that included U.S. District Attorney Barbra McQuade, Detroit Police Chief James Craig, Wayne County Sheriff Benny Napoleon and FBI Special Agent in Charge of Detroit Division David P. Gelios, were in attendance to signify a unified front between the FBI and local law enforcement.
Comey said he was astonished at the level of communication that has formed between the community and local law enforcement officials.
He added that the relationship is a model that needs to be implemented in other regions.
“Their overwhelming message to me actually surprised me,” Comey said of the local leaders he had met earlier in the day. “They said ‘we believe that this area is a model for cooperation across a variety of relationships that are troubled elsewhere in the country.’ One of my hopes is that I can steal whatever that magic potion is that we’ve spread on all these good folks and in law enforcement, and sprinkle it other places across the country.”
Comey said the FBI’s top objective is to combat counter-terrorism, specifically relating to ISIS attempting to recruit lone Americans.
The FBI said there are various methods in ISIS’ attempt to appeal to troubled individuals. The first involves swaying them to leave the country.
“They come at us through social media in an effort to recruit Americans,” Comey said. “To travel to their so called caliphate to live a life off glory and participate in the final battle between good and evil on god’s side…it resonates with troubled souls in the United States. It has over the last couple of years.”…
Comey said the FBI is constantly depending on local and state authorities to help them identify and servile suspected individuals.
“It requires us to conduct surveillance of someone, to understand where they are going,” Comey said. “With the help of our state, local and federal partners, we try to keep track of people who may be headed towards a violent destination.”
The FBI Blitz comes 24 hours after the Michigan Chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-MI) announced a lawsuit, challenging the FBI’s ‘terrorist watch list.’
CAIR-MI filed the suit on behalf of 18 American Muslims, including a four-year-old child, who were allegedly placed on the list without reason or notice.
Comey briefly addressed the lawsuit, stating that it wouldn’t make sense to inform suspected individuals who are being monitored.
“It’s hard to see how that would work operationally,” Comey said. “Even the biggest critics of our watch list would surely agree that there are some people out there who are really of concern to all of us. So how would it work if we would notify them that ‘we might know you are bad?’”
He added that there should be a system in place that would assist wrongfully suspected individuals in challenging their name being on the list.
“I think the best way for all of us is to find procedures that if someone believes they are being encountered in a way that doesn’t make sense, that they’d have the opportunity to raise that,” Comey said.
Comey said the FBI depends on community members—law enforcement officials, educators, and religious leaders, in helping them identify people who have been radicalized.
“We think our part is to build relationships so we are able to share information,” Comey said. “Having a good enough relationship so that people who don’t want to see violence–alert us when they see something that is concerning.”
Good luck with that.

Christianblood says
There we go again! US & Western leaders are all slaves of islam. They are all traitors who deserve to be hanged.
Angemon says
We get it: you hate the West. If you want to talk about traitors who deserve to be hanged start by cleaning up your backyard before trying to lecture others.
Wellington says
Seconded, Angemon. Whatever is the matter with the world, and much is the matter with it, it isn’t anything the likes of Christianblood can fix. He’s all Russia, all Putin, all the time.
Per Christianblood, all the West is bad and Russia is good. Forever on one note——la, la, la. How tedious.
Well, I take comfort in the fact that Christianblood may play well in Moscow but he wouldn’t in, let’s see here, Tallinn, Riga, Vilnius, Warsaw, Prague, Bratislava, Bucharest——-it’s a long list. Yes indeed. And Christianblood NEVER, and I mean NEVER, addresses this point, never mind Putin’s cozying up to Iran again and again, which of course is done for mere defensible strategic reasons while any Western “association” with this or that corrupt and vile Islamic regime serves as ipso facto evidence again of the baseness of the West. Oh yeah, la, la, la and more la. Would be difficult to be more tedious. Here Christianblood is a “contender.”
mortimer says
Wellington wrote: ‘tedious’
Nothing as tedious as a fascist. And yes, the peoples of central Europe have had enough of the ‘bear’s hug’ to last for centuries. Next time central European peoples have to fight Russia, the Russians may be find that they are alone against the world. Russia should start making friends right now. Dump the paranoia, get rid of the kleptocracy, embrace liberal democracy and the rule of law and human rights and civil liberties. The alternative is decades of impoverishment and injustices for the mass of Russians. Putin is one of the biggest fascist stinkers alive. A two-faced phony.
Christianblood says
Angemon & Wellington
What are u trying to hide? You seem to be embarrassed by the facts before our eyes. It is all clear to everyone that Western leaders, such as this FBI tog dog and including religious leaders such as the Pope are all enabling muslims, including muslim jihadists such as CAIR and many others. Are you trying to deny the reality of the matter? Why are u trying to hide behind Russia and its leaders?
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“Angemon & Wellington
What are you trying to hide?”
I’m not hiding anything, and I doubt Wellington is. If anyone here is trying to hide something that would be you behind you supposed “anti-islamic” stance. Which, BTW, does not exist – you’re against Turkey and Saudi Arabia but you’re in favour of Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah? Clearly you do not have an anti-islamic bone in your body, you’re just trying to hide political stances under the guise of counter-jihadism. If the roles were reversed – if Tehran was aligned with Washington and Istanbul and Riyadh were aligned with Moscow – I (and I’m guessing Wellington) would still be critics of Western policies regarding islamic countries while you’d be excoriating Iran and defending Turkey and Saudi Arabia.
You’re a soulless opportunist who couldn’t care less about islam, jihad or the plight of Christians. And you’re trying to squirm away from discussing what we said by implying that we have something to hide. Not going to work.
Christianblood says
Angemon & Wellington
What are you trying to hide? You seem to be embarrassed by the facts before our eyes. It is all clear to everyone that Western leaders, such as this FBI tog dog and including religious leaders such as the Pope are all enabling muslims, including muslim jihadists such as CAIR and many others. Are you trying to deny the reality of the matter? Why are u trying to hide behind Russia and its leaders?
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“Angemon & Wellington
What are you trying to hide?”
I’m not hiding anything, and I doubt Wellington is. If anyone here is trying to hide something that would be you behind you supposed “anti-islamic” stance. Which, BTW, does not exist – you’re against Turkey and Saudi Arabia but you’re in favour of Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah? Clearly you do not have an anti-islamic bone in your body, you’re just trying to hide political stances under the guise of counter-jihadism. If the roles were reversed – if Tehran was aligned with Washington and Istanbul and Riyadh were aligned with Moscow – I (and I’m guessing Wellington) would still be critics of Western policies regarding islamic countries while you’d be excoriating Iran and defending Turkey and Saudi Arabia.
You’re a soulless opportunist who couldn’t care less about islam, jihad or the plight of Christians. And you’re trying to squirm away from discussing what we said by implying that we have something to hide. Not going to work.
African infidel says
Christianblood
US and Nato governments don’t care about Christians and other religious minorities being murdered by muslim jihad people in the M.E. and elsewhere, all they care about are their economical materialism, their access to oil or their global political influences and cultural imperialism etc, etc. They don’t care if the millions of Christians who still live in places like Egypt, Nigeria or Syria are massacred by their islamic allies. It is all about greed, materialism, sex and hedonism in the West and they will get their karma one day!
Wellington says
Ain’t hiding anything, Christianblood. I and many others here at JW have taken numerous Western elites to task for their appeasement of Islam. You, by contrast, can’t manage to say anything negative about Russia or Putin.
I detect zero balance in you. You have no capacity for even a stab at objectivity. Pretty sad.
Wellington says
Pretty damn slanted take on NATO, African Infidel. NATO is the greatest military alliance in man’s history for the protection and promotion of freedom. One knows this or should know it.
Are there problems with NATO today? Yes. But these problems relate to personalities (like Obama and Erdogan) and not to NATO per se. NATO in military form has exhibited the undeniable truth that Western Civilization, with all its faults, is still the civilization that pioneered and developed freedom like no other civilization in history. Western Civilization also has shown a capacity to apologize for its wrongdoings to a far greater extent than any other civilization or society ever.
Don’t confuse abuse of freedom with the importance of freedom itself. Narrating abuses of freedom does not impugn freedom but rather the abuser. Reflect upon this.
Christianblood says
Wellington
If Russian’s equivalent to the FBI director says something like ‘islamophobia causes terrorism’ etc I will be the first to criticize but at this thread, it was the US FBI director that my criticism was directed to because of his misleading and politically-correct statement.
Christianblood says
Wellington:
Please see (graphic) pictures of dead Serbian civilians, including women and children massacred by pro-jihadist US/Nato war planes:
https://jtf.org/forum/index.php?topic=41949.0
Wellington says
Christianblood: Please consult Poles, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Czechs, Slovaks and mucho numbers of Ukrainians about Russia. But you will never do this, will you?
As for the “Yugoslavian mess,” it is unfortunate indeed. But there were two phases to this mess. The first phase lasted from 1991 to 1999 when four different wars broke out in the dissolving Yugoslavia and this massive instability threatened all of Europe, especially countries close by like Austria and Hungary. The second phase began only after America and NATO sent a message to Serbia (which was at least as culpable as any other “participant” in the breakdown of Yugoslavia, for instance the Slovenians, the Croatians, et al.) and thereafter massive slaughter stopped.
Yes, the Serbians were made the “fall guy” for a situation where blame could be distributed among many, but the bombing served the purpose of ending massive slaughter and bringing reassurance to nations like Austria and Hungary. Do you get none of this? Are you still so blind as to not realize any of this? BTW, I was completely against the creation of an independent Kosovo—–just for the record and all that.
And don’t forget once again, Christainblood, to consult western Ukrainians, Georgians aplenty, Poles and Czechs on the specific matter of a very limited missile defense, the Estonians on massive computer hacking, etc., on the role of Russia under Putin to continue the centuries-long Russian policy of treating its neighbors as vassals or enemies.
But you won’t do this, will you? No, you won’t because with you and your ilk it is all Russia all the time——Holy Mother Russia, blah, blah, blah. How tedious. Doubt me? Then take “your take” on America and NATO to Tallinn, Riga, Warsaw, Prague, et al; places that dearly want to be in NATO (gee, I wonder why?). But you never will. No, you never will. Done here.
Christianblood says
Wellington
US/Nato are using all those countries you mentioned in your post above as cover and as an excuse to encircle Russia and even small kids know that. Soviet Union is dissolved over twenty years ago and yet Nato continues to expanding to Russia’s borders. Why? What would happen if Russia opens huge military bases in Mexico, Canada or Cuba and do military drills etc? What will the US do? No. There is some deeper reason to all this because even long before the US was born as a nation the West tried numerous times to destroy Russia and got their asses kicked time and again. Please watch the video clip below to get some hints: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9RCFZnWGE0Reply
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“Wellington
US/Nato are using all those countries you mentioned in your post above as cover and as an excuse to encircle Russia and even small kids know that.”
Lol! And you complain about alleged “crazy anti Russia propaganda”!!! As I said, there is crazy propaganda out there, but it’s anti-Western and coming from Moscow.
“Soviet Union is dissolved over twenty years ago and yet Nato continues to expanding to Russia’s borders.”
Again: those countries willingly joined NATO because they have no love for Russia or Putin. Saying that NATO is trying to encircle Russia makes as much sense as saying that muslims are overrepresented in terror watch lists because of islamophobia.
“Why? What would happen if Russia opens huge military bases in Mexico, Canada or Cuba and do military drills etc? What will the US do?”
*yawn*
Don’t you guys ever get new material? Is the US threatening to invade Mexico or Canada? Did Mexico or Canada asked Russia for help against an American invasion? Of course not. Heck, your daddy (Trump) is running on the promise to build a wall on the Mexican border.
“No. There is some deeper reason to all this because even long before the US was born as a nation the West tried numerous times to destroy Russia and got their asses kicked time and again.”
More crazy propaganda. Hope they’re not paying you much…
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house
Peggy says
Wellington says
April 13, 2016 at 4:54 pm
Ain’t hiding anything, Christianblood. I and many others here at JW have taken numerous Western elites to task for their appeasement of Islam. You, by contrast, can’t manage to say anything negative about Russia or Putin.
I detect zero balance in you. You have no capacity for even a stab at objectivity. Pretty sad.
==============================
But we are not discussing Russia or Putin now. We are commenting on an article about FBI bending over backwards for Muslims. Why do you bring Putin into this and every other discusson on how US authorities are enslaving themselves to Islam.
Every leader has faults and Putin is no exception but we don’t live in Russia and what he does there has no inpact on us.
What the FBI, ASIO or MI6 do has a direct influence on us so we better start cleaning up our own backyard before we worry about someone else’s.
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“Every leader has faults and Putin is no exception”
Not that you ever saw a fault in Putin.
“but we don’t live in Russia and what he does there has no inpact on us.”
Really? It doesn’t? Try telling that to the Malaysia airplane shot down by the Russia-backed rebels. Or the Ukrainians. But if you want to go there, the FBI has no jurisdiction outside the US – it’s a domestic intelligence and security service – so you don’t have to worry about what an FBI representative says. Since you don’t live in the US and what the FBI does there has no impact on you.
Christianblood says
Peggy posted:
(…But we are not discussing Russia or Putin now. We are commenting on an article about FBI bending over backwards for Muslims. Why do you bring Putin into this and every other discusson…)
Good point Peggy!
Fessitude says
“It is all clear to everyone that Western leaders, such as this FBI tog dog and including religious leaders such as the Pope are all enabling muslims, including muslim jihadists such as CAIR and many others. ”
Most in the Counter-Jihad know this; the question is whether (and/or to what extent) this enablement is willful (in which case it would be evil and indeed literally treasonous no less than planting a bomb in the White House), or whether it is due to a complex stupidity (what I have called “quantum ignorance”, alluding to the archaic but useful term morosophy) whereby relatively decent and intelligent individuals (by the millions, I’m afraid) have become sincerely caught up in a complex web of cultural & psychological axioms, assumptions, shibboleths and givens moving them to gyrate this way and that way in order to extricate themselves (and their West) out of the complex cat’s cradle in which Muslims, by their actions and their scripted religious bliueprint, have ensnared us with our own assistance in the form of PC MC (politically correct multi-culturalism). (The aforementioned being not to deny that there do exist some genuinely evil and traitorous Westerners; just not axiomatically in a way that is supposed to explain the Problem of the Problem comprehensively, through (in great part) committing the No True Scotsman fallacy.)
At least Christianblood errs coherently, taking the bull by the horns in his hotheaded fashion (assuming, of course, that he’s sincere and not an Islamopologist plant himself); many of his detractors, I’m afraid, tend to contradict themselves whenever they indulge in rhetoric about the Problem of the Problem in such a way that logically only treasonous evil imputed to our “Leftist Elites” would make sense — though they shrink back from the logical conclusion their own rhetoric indicates.
Angemon says
Fessitude posted:
“At least Christianblood errs coherently, taking the bull by the horns in his hotheaded fashion (assuming, of course, that he’s sincere and not an Islamopologist plant himself); many of his detractors, I’m afraid, tend to contradict themselves whenever they indulge in rhetoric about the Problem of the Problem in such a way that logically only treasonous evil imputed to our “Leftist Elites” would make sense — though they shrink back from the logical conclusion their own rhetoric indicates.”
Translation: “I don’t care if christianblood is a paid Russian troll spreading anti-Western propaganda, he’s butting heads with my enemies therefore he’s OK by me”.
Things get even better when we look at past history: you, under your former screenname “voegelinian” started by praising christianblood even when he was proven to be an anti-Western propagandist, then back-pedalled when called on it. And now you’re back-pedalling the back-pedalling and returning to square one.
Jay Boo says
Fessitude wrote,
“…complex stupidity (what I have called “quantum ignorance”, alluding to the archaic but useful term morosophy) ”
… complex cat’s cradle
…. complex web of cultural & psychological axioms, assumptions, shibboleths
——————————————————-
I cam only say, Thanks for simplifying the complex.
Miao Zedong says
You argue like a muslim of lefitst. Someone critices a select few and you turn it into a generalised hate toward the whole group. He is speaking of “leaders” not the West as a whole. Whatever he might have written before, you probably won’t disagree with that.
Angemon says
A select few in this particular instance, but CB has plenty of posts out there slandering the West as a whole. He’s proven, beyond any reasonable doubt, that he has nothing but scorn and hatred for Westerners in general, and that he abhors the notion of freedom of conscience.
Christianblood says
Miao Zedong posted:
(…You argue like a muslim of lefitst. Someone critices a select few and you turn it into a generalised hate toward the whole group. He is speaking of “leaders” not the West as a whole…)
So True Miao Zedong! They seem to be blinded by their deep hatred of Russia and its leaders and would blurt out anything to resist the facts before our eyes. I did not say anything about Russia in this thread and I am not even Russian my self but I have great respect for Russia and its present great leader! And except (Donald Trump) I have absolutely NO respect, whatsoever for Western leaders today.
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“They seem to be blinded by their deep hatred of Russia and its leaders and would blurt out anything to resist the facts before our eyes.”
Ironically, this is what I often get from leftist and muslim apologists – “you hate muslims and islam so much you don’t care aboiut the facts in front of your eyes”.
“I did not say anything about Russia in this thread”
I’m guessing because you’ve had your ass handed over so many times you’re forced to try to tone it down.
“and I am not even Russian my self”
And you wouldn’t lie to us, would you?
“but I have great respect for Russia and its present great leader!”
No you don’t. Remember when you claimed the only regimes suited for Russians were authoritarian regimes, like Putin’s?
“And except (Donald Trump) I have absolutely NO respect, whatsoever for Western leaders today.”
As I said, you’re cheerleading for Trump because of his alleged stance on NATO. Anything and anyone that undermines and weakens the defence mechanism against a possible Russian takeover of former Warsaw Pact states is music to your ears.
Miao Zedong says
CB:
I remember the 90’s. European “leaders” talked and talked, condemned the civil war in Yugoslavia like a bunch of eunuchs. I remember how relieved I was that finally ONE leader took action (Clinton) although the result was the first islamic state in Europe. At that time I believed the anti-serbian propaganda. No more.
For almost 8 years we have been watching a muslim president subverting western values and institutions and serving the interest of Islam. We have seen a ridiculously impotent or rather dishonest US engaging in the middle east. “Red lines” my ass. I’m glad the finally Putin stepped in and exposed that idiot in Washington and the US policy for what it is.
…and no …. I’m not anti-american, never will be, have relatives living over there. I just RESPECT Putin. Some enemies deserves more respect than allies…
Christianblood says
Miao Zedong posted:
(…We have seen a ridiculously impotent or rather dishonest US engaging in the middle east…I’m glad the finally Putin stepped in and exposed that idiot in Washington and the US policy for what it is…)
Very well-said Miao Zedong. Please see (graphic) pictures of dead Serbian civilians, including women and children massacred by pro-jihadist-Nato: https://jtf.org/forum/index.php?topic=41949.0
Shane says
The FBI should focus on the real problem – KKKophobia! Seriously, the Obama administration is terrified of making the connection between Islam and Muslim terrorism. We need a GOP administration that will say the phrase “Islamist terrorism,” and “Muslim terrorists” and use profiling in dealing with terrorism. I don’t think we have to worry much about Amish terrorists or Mormon terrorists, our enemy is Islamic Jihad and Muslims use terrorism and rape as weapons in the Jihad.
Christianblood says
Wellington
The West planned to create rift between Russia & Ukraine long ago – says French ex-MEP. Watch:
https://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/336066-nato-role-russia-europe/
medaber_emet says
not only that they deserve to be hanged
i want to through up on them before the execution
You have no idea how disappointed i am with america
Islam is the most disgusting culture on the planet and the USA is bowing down to those filthy animals and kissing and licking their asses
I hope that one day America will grow to realize that Islam is its worst enemy and will start mass deportation of all muzzies to Arabia Saudi Somalia and other revolting countries
Sandra Lee Smith says
Just for the record, the jerks so engaged reside inside the I-495 beltway, and do NOT represent the 300million of us outside it, notwithstanding they ARE supposed to do so. WE don’t want those freaking Muslims either!
Peggy says
Then maybe stop voting for the traitors.
You have an alternative now so let’s see how many will vote for him.
I hope almost all.
Christianblood says
medaber_emet posted:
(…not only that they deserve to be hanged
i want to through up on them before the execution
You have no idea how disappointed i am with america
Islam is the most disgusting culture on the planet and the USA is bowing down to those filthy animals and kissing and licking their asses…)
So True and thank you so very much “Medaber_Emet” I totally agree with you and feel the same way. America and the West bombed Christian Serbia and created two islamic states in the heart of Europe Medaber. Hundreds of thousands of Orthodox Christians were forcibly removed from their ancient homeland and Kosovar muslim jihadists backed by America and the Nato destroyed hundreds of ancient Orthodox churches and monasteries and murdered and raped thousand of Christian with the support of the West. Please watch the video below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gopoV69HXl8
Ex-muslim says
@ Christianblood
Thank you dear “Christianblood” for refreshing me with facts my brother! As an ex-muslim I am totally shocked and frustrated by the weakness, ignorance and the traitorous stupidity that is running the Western world today! The fact is islam is a dangerous evil cult of hate and death and anyone who seriously follows its teachings is like a murderous ticking time bomb and yet the West and their stupid leaders keep bending over backwards to please islamic jihadist killers such CAIR and MB and they are even directly assisting jihadists to overthrow secular governments in the Arab world such Iraq and Syria and Libya…It is unbelievable!
Keep it up bro! I always enjoy reading your great posts.
Christianblood says
Ex-muslim
Thank u so very much brother! This just breaking now. Please read it.
US is ready to arm Islamic jihadists fighting against Assad in Syria with portable anti-aircraft missiles. Read it below dear Ex-muslim: https://www.rt.com/news/339433-us-arm-syria-rebels/
Angemon says
Lo and behold, the usual backup squad arrived!
Ex-muslim posted:
“@ Christianblood
Thank you dear “Christianblood” for refreshing me with facts my brother!”
GIMME A C! GIMME AN H!…
“As an ex-muslim I am totally shocked and frustrated by the weakness, ignorance and the traitorous stupidity that is running the Western world today!”
Seeing how you claimed that Westerners and Americans were your mortal enemies, that makes no sense.
Havoc says
I don’t fear Islam so much as I detest it and its enthusiasts. Rather than “Islamophobia”, I suffer from “islamomisony” – the hatred of Islam and its enthusiasts.
Arch says
Islamophobia does not exist. It is a made up term by the left to try to silence those of us that know the truth about islam. I have studied it for over a year now and connected with several former muslims. Many of us know too much about the “religion” so we are termed bigots or islamophobes when we expose the truth about mohammed. Political correctness is a far bigger threat to the US than any single terrorist group. Thanks so much for exposing the truth, Robert.
Sam says
Why cant these idiots see that Islam is the problem? I am sick of this BS that Muslims kill us and I have go out and give them a hug and protect them from imaginary Islamaphobia.
Enough is enough. They will finally get REAL Islamaphobia pretty soon. INSALLAH!!!
Christianblood says
Donald Trump is the only hope out of this mess. Let us hope he replaces imam Obama!
Angemon says
Be honest, CB: you’re cheerleading for Trump because of his alleged stance on NATO. You don’t really care about islam, seeing how you’re OK with genocidal, suicidal, anti-semitic Iran, and baby-slaughtering groups like Hezbollah and Hamas.
gravenimage says
Yup.
Wellington says
Yup.
Miao Zedong says
Angemon, Nato is obsolete and with Turkey within I’d rather see Nato gone.
Angemon says
I too used to think that there was no need for NATO nowdays. But now it seems it’s relevant again, courtesy of Putin.
Christianblood says
Angemon
I said many times before that no one should support the evil islamic Iranian regime for its special genocidal threats against Israel and in the same way America and the West should stop backing and arming other genocidal evil muslims such as Saudi Arabia, Turkey and many, many other islamic jihadists groups that America and West are backing and are allied with today. And yes Nato is obsolete because there is no Soviet Union today. What is facing the world today is global islamic jihadism and something new must be formed that responds to this global islamic threat and the West should also drop its hostile instance and crazy propaganda against Russia and its leader because this will not solve the problem and it will only make the situation worse. The West should NOT push its liberal, anti-Christian, postmodernist “liberal democratic” cultural imperialist agenda on Russia because Russians don’t want that as they see to the place where it is leading the Western world.
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“Angemon
I said many times before that no one should support the evil islamic Iranian regime for its special genocidal threats against Israel and in the same way America and the West should stop backing and arming other genocidal evil muslims such as Saudi Arabia, Turkey and many, many other islamic jihadists groups that America and West are backing and are allied with today.”
No, you didn’t. You openly supported Russia’s relationship with Iran. Heck, you said that the relationship between Russia and Iran could not be compared to the relation ships between the US, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, so why are you trying to compare them now?
“And yes Nato is obsolete because there is no Soviet Union today. ”
Not if Putin is allowed to have the last word about it – go ask the Georgians and Ukrainians.
“What is facing the world today is global islamic jihadism and something new must be formed that responds to this global islamic threat”
How about no? How about not make “something new” but simply fine-tune what’s already in place?
“and the West should also drop its hostile instance and crazy propaganda against Russia and its leader because this will not solve the problem and it will only make the situation worse.”
There’s no propaganda against Russia or Putin. There is crazy anti-Western propaganda from Russia. Take, for example, when Putin said that the corruption scandal in FIFA was a US ploy to make Russia look bad.
“The West should NOT push its liberal, anti-Christian, postmodernist “liberal democratic” cultural imperialist agenda on Russia ”
The West is not pushing any agenda on Russia. That’s more crazy, anti-Western propaganda.
“because Russians don’t want that as they see to the place where it is leading the Western world.”
Who made you the spokesperson of the Russian population? Remember, you said you were not Russian.
Angemon says
“relationships”, not “relation ships” 😀 😀 Damn key positioning…
Ex-muslim says
I love Trump too because he is free from islam-bandering political-correctness paraphernalia!
Christianblood says
Angemon posted:
(…But now it seems it’s relevant again, courtesy of Putin…)
Thank God for rising up a leader like the great Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin in holy Russia! It is great that God gave Russia a good Christian leader who is ready and willing to defend Russia from the crazed atheistic, pro-jihadist Western moral relativist corruption! Neither islamic jihadist fascists nor their crazed, anti-Christian, godless, atheistic morally compromised Western allies
will ever be able to harm holy Russia and its faith in Christ.
Take a look please:
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“Thank God for rising up a leader like the great Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin in holy Russia! It is great that God gave Russia a good Christian leader who is ready and willing to defend Russia from the crazed atheistic, pro-jihadist Western moral relativist corruption! Neither islamic jihadist fascists nor their crazed, anti-Christian, godless, atheistic morally compromised Western allies
will ever be able to harm holy Russia and its faith in Christ.”
Yes, I’m sure that the men who said that Russia was the protector of the islamic world (presumably against the West, but I can’t rule out the possibility that he was setting them up for a mafia-style shake down) and that Orthodox Christianity, his supposed religion, is closer to islam than it is to Catholicism is a paragon of Christian virtue…
Christianblood says
Angemon posted
(…No, you didn’t. You openly supported Russia’s relationship with Iran. Heck, you said that the relationship between Russia and Iran could not be compared to the relation ships between the US, Turkey and Saudi Arabia…)
Angemon, Iranian regime is evil for its genicidal threats against Israel and no one should support them in their evil plans. Having said that, the fact is the Iranian regime have not yet carried out an organized genocide and up until now, it is just a threat but Turkey have actually carried an organized religious genocide and murdered millions of Armenian Christians and yet America is today in total alliance with Turkey in Nato. Don’t you see that Angemon? I am wondering why isn’t that bothering YOU Angemon? Isn’t the genocidal murder of millions of innocent Christians by muslim Turks worthy of our attention? I can see your judgment is hugely biased, detached from reality and also very unfair.
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“Angemon, Iranian regime is evil for its genicidal threats against Israel and no one
should support them in their evil plans.”
Except that you do support the Iranian regime. And terrorist groups like Hezbollah. And Hamas. Because they’re allied with Russia.
“Having said that,”
And thus starts the apologism for Iran.
“the fact is the Iranian regime have not yet carried out an organized genocide and up until now, it is just a threat”
So, basically, no one should support them but because they’re just threatening (never mind that they’re actively pursuing their goal of obtaining a nuclear weapon) supporting them is OK.
“but Turkey have actually carried an organized religious genocide and murdered millions of Armenian Christians and yet America is today in total alliance with Turkey in Nato.”
Again, what does that have to do with Iran’s plans for Israel? Why, nothing, it’s forced tu-quoquery to distract from the matter at hand. By that “logic” of yours, Russia and Putin can’t defend Christianity because the Soviets actively persecuted Christans – including during the time of the Armenian Genocide – while the US are the defenders of the Christian faith because they managed to defeat the godless Soviets.
“Don’t you see that Angemon?”
I see you’re an unfair, biased judge unable to criticize Russia or Putin no matter what, even when they align themselves with a genocidal nation and legitimize terrorist groups that brutally butcher babies. But what do you care? Israel is a Jewish state, and aligned with the West, so you’ll celebrate twice as hard if the worst comes to pass.
“I am wondering why isn’t that bothering YOU Angemon?”
I’m wondering why you’re unfazed by the genocidal, suicidal, twelvers in Tehran, who believe that a nuclear war will usher in the return of the mahdi.
“Isn’t the genocidal murder of millions of innocent Christians by muslim Turks worthy of our attention?”
Huh, you realize you’re talking about past history, right? Turks aren’t killing Christians now, Iranians are. The dead can’t come back to live nor die again, so I’m more focused in preventing the next genocide of millions. You? You seem more than happy to stand in the graves of the dead and using them to defend and bring forth the next genocide. And for your claptrap about the lives of Christians, you sure seem keen on defending a state that kills people for being Christians:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/3179465/Hanged-for-being-a-Christian-in-Iran.html
Turkey isn’t executing Christians for their religion. Iran is. That’s who you’re cheerleading for. That’s who you’re defending.
“I can see your judgment is hugely biased, detached from reality and also very unfair.”
Says the guy who defends genocidal, suicidal, jihadi Iran, who is killing Christians because of their faith, because they’re allied with Russia. But this is the sort of petty personal attacks one would expect from someone who has to defend a point no matter what – life in Putin’s Russia is hard, and even trolls need to make ends meet.
So trying to prevent a genocide of millions is being “biased”, “detached from reality” and “unfair”? What, is it because they’re Jews? Remember, Israel is the only safe haven for Christians in the Middle East, and you’re standing on the side of the people who want to turn it into a big, smouldering glass crater. Not only that, you’re trying to do so standing on the graves of innocent victims. A normal human being would feel shame at that. You? Not a bit. Much to the contrary, you seem to revel in it.
Sandra Lee Smith says
Go back to Moscow! Trump is NO hope at all!
Christianblood says
Sandra Lee Smith
Politically-correct Western establishment hates Trump for speaking out what is common sense.
Peggy says
Please explain how anyone else can clean up the Muslim mess.
Berengaria says
I agree 100%, Pray that Trump Wins.
Christianblood says
Berengaria
Amen! May he win! I love the man for his common sensical no-none-sense attitudes!
May he win and lead the whole world in facing the real global threat which is facing us today and that mortal threat is islamic jihadist fascism.
Angemon says
How many muslims have reported possible terrorists to the FBI? How many muslims told other muslims to hide because the FBI was asking for them?
Sandra Lee Smith says
CAIR nd all the rest of the MB alphabet organizations have been telling Muslims to not cooperate for decades. I’d venture to say exactly NONE has done so. And the FBI itself is riddled with Muslims at high levels to the point I wouldn’t trust them any longer either!
Frank Scarn says
“During a visit to Detroit, FBI Director James Comey said that the rise of Islamophobia has been a concerning issue to the government agency.”
Strike “the rise of Islamophobia” and substitute “the increase in knowledge about what the Quran actually teaches.”
Keep up the good work, counter-jihadists, especially to you, Robert Spencer.
خَليفة says
Read between the line. You are spot on Frank.
And, how often have we seen an alleged case of act against a Muslim or mosque, only to find out later that it was perpetrated by a Muslim? Too often if you ask me.
Muslims worry, because they know they can’t keep the true intentions of Islam a secret from everyone for much longer. They know we are onto their lies, and in spite of all the Saudi money buying influence, the truth manages to win out in the end.
Sandra Lee Smith says
It’s not a phobia to fear that which seeks to kill you. A phobia is an irrational fear of that which normally doesn’t arrouse fear in mature individuals. Any individual who does NOT fear a gang of literal cutthroats invading his homeland is neither rational nor mature!
Bill says
It is obvious that is his big priority. That is why we had San Bernadino, Chattanooga, The Boston Marathon, and the attack on the Mohammed art day in Texas, just to name a few. On top of that, he has to work real hard in cooperation with Obama and Loretta Lynch to save Hillary’s bacon. That takes time too. Then, at Obama’s direction, he has to devote substantial time to chasing down legal sales at gun shows in search of the mythical loophole. The man may be overtasked. There is probably soon to be a top job opening in Germany’s intelligence service, Comey looks like he could be just the right man for it.
gravenimage says
FBI top dog: Rise of “Islamophobia” a “concerning issue”
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Yeah–never mind all those dead Infidels.
Miao Zedong says
It is a concering issue. I really hope that CAIR, Muslimbrother and the likes in Europe be concerned. Their concern is only partly a succuss of brave citizens like Geller, Spencer, Wilders and others. First hand experience with that culture (mass immigration, colonisation) is resettling the perspective of the do-gooders.
Meanwhile the islamisation of Germany is happily proceeding with the aid of “Justice” Minister Maas, Merkels mignon. While censorship agreements with Facebook in order to silence “hate speakers” is alreade in place the latest idea from him is to restrict “nudity” in ads. You know, don’t get the welcome many from Syria too excited. It’s already difficult not to report the spike in violence and rape. Burka is the solution (irony). In the same country Turks and kurs are fighting violently against each other. Thanks to her Majesty Merkel and in just one demonstration 50 police officer get hurt seriously.
Civil war ? Anybody thinking of that is ….
underbed cat says
Politically, with the current leadership,( hint hint) I think, just an opinion, that FBI Director, James Comey, has to respond to the Islamic organizations who complain about islamophobia, other wise he would not have a job. However the main part of his job is to protect the citizens(even the ones who may not want our laws,) for this time period, at least if they complain….but I truly hope(thnk) he knows who he is dealing with, that has connections in regards to the concept of jihad, which ever terrorist group who says or carries the book that they read that demands a caliphate(islamic world). Meanwhile captured jihadist get a pass and a release and migration (refugees another command) are flowing in…a bad dilemma for now…until the truth about this problem (islamic doctrine) is exposed and the tolerance wakes up the reality of a subversive movement at war with the U.S. It has been said they went after our minds first, I think that is true, until we got it. Get it?
Wellington says
The FBI needs a Director who knows that the term “Islamophobia” is completely bogus, a term that is used to silence any criticism of Islam.
Comey doesn’t know this. Thus, he is part of the problem and not part of any sane solution where the totalitarian ideology of Islam is concerned. In short, he’s pathetic and a hindrance to freedom.
Damn, the West is riddled with clueless (or worse) elites. From the Director of the FBI to the current head honcho in the Vatican, from 10 Downing Street to the Oval Office, it isn’t looking good for liberty.
mortimer says
Wellington wrote: “…needs a Director who knows the term “Islamophobia” is completely bogus”
I’m counting that Comey is intelligent and knows. I’m counting on the fact that he’s been ordered to lie in order to con the Muslims into thinking ‘we’re on the same side’…when he realizes such is not the case.
I’m counting that Comey realizes he will be perceived as big liar by non-Muslims and that they will consider him to be sucking up and pandering to the BS of CAIR.
Some Shi’ites may turn in some Sunni terrorists and vice versa, but I wouldn’t count on more that that, unless the mullahs are scared for their lives or caught up in a trap and ‘turned’ to become informants on their congregants. It’s a no-win situation all round.
Western governments can only beat jihadism if they are willing to deprogram Muslims out of Islam, because the IDEOLOGY OF ISLAM is the problem.
Sandra Lee Smith says
I don’t think I would count on that. There are far too many Muslims in that, as well as the rest of our so-called protection agencies, especially at the Federal level.
underbed cat says
I go with, Comey knows, has spoken about it …but he may be the only one i this administration, who knows but is working on our side…even if he talks to CAIR…I hope he is using “misdirection”, which he deals with daily…he spoke more openly that anyone else.
Fessitude says
The recommendation to “deprogram Muslims” as a recommendation purported to be a realistic way to solve the costly & horrific problem which Muslims are causing us and the world — if not even the only way to do so — would tend to have the effect of inculcating in its receptive audience an ongoing reinforcement of their acquiescence to the fait accompli of continued (not to mention escalating) Muslim presence in our societies.
Such a recommendation is either a sincerely starry-eyed spasm of Wilsonianism, or a sly maneuver of Islamablement…
Angemon says
Fessitude posted:
“The recommendation to “deprogram Muslims” as a recommendation purported to be a realistic way to solve the costly & horrific problem which Muslims are causing us and the world — if not even the only way to do so — would tend to have the effect of inculcating in its receptive audience an ongoing reinforcement of their acquiescence to the fait accompli of continued (not to mention escalating) Muslim presence in our societies.
Such a recommendation is either a sincerely starry-eyed spasm of Wilsonianism, or a sly maneuver of Islamablement…”
Switch “deprogram muslims” with “total deportation” and the logic and conclusion behind it are valid. Imagine that…
Wellington says
Ordered to lie by whom, mortimer?
You are more optimistic here than I am. I don’t think Comey “gets it’ but I hope I am wrong. Perhaps, as I think the case with many elites right now, they are doubting themselves but this is different from knowing that Islam is bad news for America and all the West, that it is a mortal enemy of many things Western, most especially liberty.
Westman says
Detroit? How is that, “What we tell folks is that if you think something is going on, then tell us ” working in the other direction? Do you honestly think you will be warned when some radical in Dearborn is planning an attack?
My wife was recently attended by a woman physician who was obviously of South Asia extraction, Indian. She was very courteous, knowledgeable, caring, and fully integrated. I felt pride for her and her accomplishments and felt thankful that she came to the US. She and her children will conyribute to, and defend America. If Muslims did this there would be no, “Islamophobia”.
When I see Muslims in their, ” I’m not one of you”, uniforms I get the feeling they are not here to love and defend this nation, but, rather, to serve themselves, the Ummah, and the religion. And when their religious leaders talk, I’m sure of it.
Trico says
“You’re a Racist”
No, I’m a Realist.
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You’re Islamophobic.
No, I’m IslamAware.
Baucent says
“Comey said the FBI depends on community members—law enforcement officials, educators, and religious leaders, in helping them identify people who have been radicalized.”
This is the problem. In all of the western countries with a problem with home grown jihadists, is there any evidence of local community members “dobbing someone in” to the authorities? The standard response of Imams after an attack or arrest is they claim no knowledge of the person. That may be the case in some instances but surely not all. It gives the impression that muslim community leaders actually do not want to cooperate.
mortimer says
Maybe some of the apostate Muslims will cooperate, maybe some Muslims who are losing their faith will cooperate, but the vast majority of Muslims will not cooperate, because they will fear discovery by the jihadists.
Anyone in the Muslims community may be a secret jihadist. The jihadists will try their utmost to be undetectable and blend-in-able.
Miao Zedong says
“Anyone in the Muslims community may be a secret jihadist”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/15/obama-still-plans-to-accept-10000-syrian-refugees-/?page=all
Good luck with them. May millions more come. Does the US spend 50’000 Dollar per head/year on taxes ?
kangi_nunpa says
Nice try, troll.
I’ve heard the term ‘untermensch’ before, and I dislike people who bandy it about.
No Fear says
So you dislike muslims who believe that non-muslims are going to be eternally burnt in a fire because they are scum i.e. kaffir.
Good. I hate Islam and Nazism. Both are supremacist.
Jay Boo says
kangi_nunpa is correct
When Glenn Wilson writes that “Primitive Man (Muslims) are not even human.” that is a good sign he is just a troll.
Muslims are not sub-human because first of all —- Islam is not even a race.
Dan Jones says
A phobia is an irrational fear… these people are blowing people up and shooting them so there is NOTHING irrational about it.. Medina > Mecca… most have no clue what that means…
More End Time News At:
http://www.shininginthedark.com/?page_id=7760
Westman says
True, Dan. It’s not a phobia, it’s certainty from observing the works of IslamoProdigies.
IslamoProdigy – A Muslim “fundamentalist” who inflicts damage on Infidels with extraordinary “talent”.
dlbrand says
“… remember that Hamas-linked CAIR has more than once advised Muslims not to cooperate with law enforcement.”
And for good reason CAIR did the above, considering ahadith provide, the “Messenger of Allah” preached the following:
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Read more: http://islamexposed.blogspot.com/2016/04/salah-abdeallah-hiding-in-plain-sight.html
Salah Abdeallah, “hiding in plain sight”: Citidal a la Ummah
D says
It is there job to prevent terrorist attacks. Whether that attack comes from a Muslim or not is irrelevant, they need to focus on the perpetrator not the religion. There’s nothing Islamaphobic about that.
EmHotep says
This type of disclosures are really upsetting for people who is fighting against islamic extremism.. If you see the reality in my country Turkey you will understand how dangerous islam is ..
Mark Swan says
EmHotep…what is the general public opinion there…what news do you get.
There are a lot of good people there what are they saying.
EmHotep says
General public of Turkey has been divided into two groups seculars and islamists. But 50% islamists means they are in power and much more strong because they are a better consolidated group. Besides, Turkish government is using terror groups such as ISIS and Al Nusra against its own people. So it’s beyond islamophobia it became horror show of islam.
Currently islamic movement at its peak, beyond the Turkish territories, Tayyip Erdogan and the Saudi King partnership has been led to spread of terror within Europe. But I do not see any danger in short term for US.. Muslims are very few in numbers in USA and people of US are more intelligent than our mid eastern politicians.
Already Tayyip Erdogan believes that we are in 3rd WW and acting accordingly while others are arguing whether there is islamophobia or not.. There is also plan for this summer to change the Turkish constitution and make him President (Caliph-sultan) and outlaw secularism, so the future will be much more difficult for us.
I think the US also wants this, because if they only stop Erdogan and Saudis, most of the islamic terror will finish but they don’t do it. (I don’t understand why??)
Let’s wait till the first nuke of ISIS is detonated in germany or france (we know that the weapon is ready) and maybe US will wake up.
Finally Islamophobia is nothing more than muslims excuse for hiding their satanic agenda. But it is impossible to explain this to western people 🙁
Best Regards
Angemon says
EmHotep posted:
“I think the US also wants this, because if they only stop Erdogan and Saudis, most of the islamic terror will finish but they don’t do it. (I don’t understand why??)”
I believe Dinesh D’Souza holds the answer. He describes Obama as an “anti-colonialist”. If that’s the case and he sees jihad terrorism as a valid means for an “oppressed” people to strike back at their “oppressors” (and we’re talking about leftist definition of “oppression” and “oppressors”), it would account for him not wanting islamic terrorism to end.
Bridget Ames says
Their number one concern should be the protection of the citizens. If they cut down on the Islamic terrorist success of killing people they would not have to be so worried about Islamaphobia. People are rightly afraid when a cult inspires to kill others, I have yet head of mass killings of Muslisms who were killed by Islamaphobes. I have heard of many Muslims killing other Muslims, Christians, and Jews.
Edward says
The goal of a muslim alive is to ameliorate its tribe…..islam is a man invented ideology based on a lie and that lie expects all of their believers to follow a regiment that merely mandates the followers to proceed to eliminated those that hinders their march to become one in thought….by ATTRITION!
Attrition: a wearing down or weakening of resistance, especially as a result of continuous pressure or harassment.
islam-o-phobia is one of islam/muslim world tools that seem to be working on those of weak and fearful minds who lack reasoning. EMOTION WEAKENS REASON!
A side note: Liberalism seems to have adopted this modus operandi!
No Fear says
If you are not Islamophobic then you are not paying attention to what Islam is doing worldwide.
Enrico says
Destroy Islam, deport Muslims, from the US now it is still possible before you are also flooded with millions of those Satanic dumb beasts poisoning your society and prisons.
Miao Zedong says
You don’t need to kill people if you can kill ideas. Islam being an idiotic ideology needs to resort to violence because by any other means it looses. That’s why they are against democracy, secularism and free speech. That’s what you need to protect and fight for.
Sandra Lee Smith says
Well said. It is the ideology Islam that needs to be eliminated.
Fessitude says
How do you eliminate people’s thoughts, beliefs, passions, convictions? And that’s not counting that we are talking about a world-wide web of thoughts, beliefs, passions, convictions adhered to by over a billion people inhabiting some 80 countries (millions and millions in the West and still alarmingly increasing in numbers) with fanatical intensity and upheld by a mentally slavish culture.
At some point, the Counter-Jihad is going to have to face the fact that we are opposed to Muslims, not just Islam.
Angemon says
Fessitude posted:
“How do you eliminate people’s thoughts, beliefs, passions, convictions? ”
According to you, repeating something enough times will magically make things happen. Have you not asserted that if you push the meme of “total deportation” enough it will happen? Maybe not tomorrow or the next week, but eventually down the line.
Paul says
When several explosions are occurring in Western cities on a
daily basis and people are being beheaded on the streets
left right and centre, as will surely be the case quite soon, people
who have the cheek to point this out and object to it will surely be
the most urgent and pressing issue of our time. We must nip
this in the bud now!
Lorna Bicu says
Yes Muslim community….prove us wrong…C’mon work on it….
Don’t hold your breath !!
Dave Flang says
Many in America have explosion phobia so it’s natural to look at all Muslims as possible bombs. Every Muslim will obey Allah when called to do so.
Where is the love of Allah shown? In laws where there is no love.
Where is the love of the God of the Bible?
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
The Kurdistan Brothers – Muslim Converts –
A brother is born for adversity according to an old proverb and the two brothers in the following story illustrate the truth of that saying. When the younger one broke with tradition the older one wanted to break his neck. This is the true story of Syeed and Kocka, two brothers from Kurdistan who were adversaries until their minds, and hearts and lives were unshackled.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Here’s a chance for “unquestioned integrity” Comey to close the circle. Huma Abedin of her published and undeniable Moslem Brotherhood past, worked for Hillary, who let Amb Stevens be met by 60 mujahidin with mortars and RPGs at a supposedly secret meeting. Hillary kept a felonious secret email system to illegally subvert government transparency and allow government influence peddlilng, Huma used that system, which was hacked by the Chinese and many others, all of which probably resulted in Amb Stevens suffering a homosexual gangbang as he died from torture murder.
Of course Comey will help get Hillary off of her multiple felonies. It’s the Islamophobia that he’s worried about. And Valerie Jarrett will agree.
pennant8 says
We know that back in 2011 Muslim Brotherhood affiliates were given the privilege to edit out out of FBI manuals anything they found objectionable. My guess is that if you were able to leaf through those manuals today the only place where you would find any reference to Islam would be in the first five letters of the invented word Islamophobia.
Richard Paulsen says
Of course no one being innocent should be accused of being a criminal. No one should falsely be accused of anything.
What is islamophobia? Is islamophobia criticizing islam? What are you escaping from since not accepting criticism of islam?
Are you an islamophobe not migrating to an islamic country? There got to be a lot af islmophobes if so.
Are you an islamophobe escaping an islamic country? Why demanding islam and islamic rules while at the same time you are calling yourself a refugee and oppressed having to leave a country ruled by islamic rules and in islamic way. What are you escaping from when demanding islam in the country you ask for protection in?
Is there anything being called Christianophoby or Christianophobes? Seems as being rather common and widespread these days.
citycat says
Anything said by the F.B.I. is untrustworthy. Not saying why, i don’t want murdering.
citycat says
@ abbas
Apes?
Evolution doesn’t exist, if it did then why are apes still apes?
There is no god- no allah, no heaven, no hell.
There’s only Earth that supports all, that humans are destroying, that will destroy you if you don’t stop your religious non-sense that is causing wars that is destroying Earth.
Alistair cromley says
Once Hillary “I will emulate Merkel” Clinton gains power you can forget about the 1st and 2nd Amendments.
Obama laid the foundation. Clinton WILL implement the restructuring of the USA.
Good luck everyone.
the vilest of creatures says
Not a word about the rampant infidelophbia from the Muslim community,you know, the ‘phobia’ that actually has a large body count associated with it.
underbed cat says
O.K. truth be told, the vilest of creatures says: “Not a word about the rampant infidelophbia”. Maybe we should ask the media why they won’t cover the doctrinal threats.
Especially the one that says, “The future does not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”…that would be interesting.
sham says
Anti Muslim Rhetoric Reaching a Dangerous Level
The villification of Muslims, Arabs, and Islam has become relentless. Repeating the same things over and over again has been shown to create credibility. False logic seem plausible, and even outright lies repeated enough begin to sound like the truth. Sadly, these stereotypes have replaced knowledge with ignorance and misperception, and ignorance fuels hatred of what we don’t know much about. Muslims are consistently portrayed as “the other”, not part of us, and imposible to understand, and so not worthy of tolerance. Just the mention of Islam creates a feeling of fear on the part of many non-Muslims because of what they have heard so often and causes them to believe that this fear is reasonable.
It seems that any time a crime is committed by someone who is a Muslim, the rhetoric becomes more hysterical, and I really do wonder at what point American Muslims need to be afraid for our safety. I’m waiting to see some strong statements against this sort of religion baiting by interfaith groups.
I am puzzled as to how people cannot see that – yes, there are criminal Muslims, and Muslims who have attempted to justify their crimes by a distorted interpretation of their religion, but this sort of criminal behavior is not confined to Muslims. What about Charles Whitman, James Oliver Huberty, George Hennard, Eric Harris & Dylan Klebold, Jeffrey Weise, Charles Carl Roberts IV, Seung-Hui Cho, Sgt. William J. Kreutzer, Jr., Pvt. Steven Green, Master Sgt. John Hatley, Jomar Falu Vives, Scott Roeder, Timothy McVeigh, William Krar, Demetrius Van Crocker, Eric Robert Rudolph, Theodore Kaczynski, Terry Nichols, Lori Berenson, William Cottrell, Linda Evans, Jeff Fort, Irv Rubin, Earl Krugel, Victor Vancier, James Earl Ray, Buford Furow, Stphen John Jordi, Edgar Ray Killen, William Klar, James Charles Kopp, David Robert McMenemy, Gail Nettles, and thousands more.
Where does this sort of hateful rhetoric take us. On November 10th, in Tampa, FL, a Marine reservist attacked a Greek priest he claimed he thought was a terrorist, according to the news report: “Bruce pulled out a tire iron and attacked the priest, police said. He then called 911 as he chased Marakis, saying an Arab man was trying to rob him. When officers arrived, Bruce told them the man was a terrorist. Bruce also told police he heard Marakis yell, “Allahu akbar!” — Arabic for “God is great,” according to Tampa police spokeswoman Laura McElroy. Marakis, however, does not speak Arabic, McElroy said. He speaks Greek. Police are working to determine if the offense meets the standard for a hate crime.” I haven’t seen a photograph with this story, but can make an educated guess that this Greek Orthodox priest had a beard and a long black robe, and so his religious clothing alerted this proud citizen to the danger he posed. Cal Thomas must be proud.
Angemon says
I know you’re just copy/pasting from here:
http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/anti_muslim_rhetoric_reaching_a_dangerous_level
and that probably have no idea of what it says there, but here goes:
sham posted:
“ even outright lies repeated enough begin to sound like the truth. ”
That precisely why millions of muslims worldwide hate Jews and Christians and think they’re polytheists.
“ Muslims are consistently portrayed as “the other”, not part of us”
Might have something to do with them outright saying they’re not part of us. Or did you miss out the regular “Death to America, “To Hell With Free Speech”, “Sharia Will Rule”, “Death to Those Who Insult Islam”, etc., manifestations all over the world?
“and imposible to understand”
It would help if you lot didn’t go, like “oh, no, you need to read the quran in arabic in order to know what it actually says” or “well, it says that in the quran, but you need the proper context”. And this in a book that claims to be crystal clear.
“and so not worthy of tolerance.”
No tolerance for the intolerants. You oppress women? Murder gays? Humiliate people on grounds of their religion? Then you’re not welcome here.
“Just the mention of Islam creates a feeling of fear on the part of many non-Muslims because of what they have heard so often and causes them to believe that this fear is reasonable.”
Yeah, seeing muslims al over the world killing non-muslims in increasingly horrific fashion tends to let people on edge…
“It seems that any time a crime is committed by someone who is a Muslim, the rhetoric becomes more hysterical”
Blame the lefties who want to stifle criticism and hide details that might be important to the story.
“and I really do wonder at what point American Muslims need to be afraid for our safety.”
Fear for your safety? Only if from other muslims.
“I am puzzled as to how people cannot see that – yes, there are criminal Muslims, and Muslims who have attempted to justify their crimes by a distorted interpretation of their religion,”
Yes, they “distort” their religion by quoting scripture ad verbatim and pointing to historical precedents.
“but this sort of criminal behavior is not confined to Muslims. ”
I don’t see Buddhists flying planes into buildings and shouting “Gautama Buddha is greater!”.
“What about Charles Whitman, James Oliver Huberty, George Hennard, Eric Harris & Dylan Klebold, Jeffrey Weise, Charles Carl Roberts IV, Seung-Hui Cho, Sgt. William J. Kreutzer, Jr., Pvt. Steven Green, Master Sgt. John Hatley, Jomar Falu Vives, Scott Roeder, Timothy McVeigh, William Krar, Demetrius Van Crocker, Eric Robert Rudolph, Theodore Kaczynski, Terry Nichols, Lori Berenson, William Cottrell, Linda Evans, Jeff Fort, Irv Rubin, Earl Krugel, Victor Vancier, James Earl Ray, Buford Furow, Stphen John Jordi, Edgar Ray Killen, William Klar, James Charles Kopp, David Robert McMenemy, Gail Nettles, and thousands more.”
Did any of them justified their crimes with scriptures and historical precedent? Because I’m sure that, for example, Timothy McVeigh, was an agnostic.
That non-muslims commit crimes doesn’t excuse scrutiny of islamic texts and teachings. Nor does it warrant muslims who commit crimes a free pass.
sham says
ISLAM PHOBIA A NEW METHODOLOGY OF LYING & WEAKNESS OF KNOWLEDGE & HATE/JEALOUSY OF TRUE RELIGION OF ALLHA & EXTREME SATANIC INFLUENCES & LOVE OF MONEY/PHYSICAL EARNING FROM CAPITALIST /JEW BILLIONAIRE & LOVE ALCOHOL,HOMOSEXUAL ,ADULTERY,RAPE,CHEATING & JEALOUSY OF MASS CONVERSION…
NOTHING HAPPENS TO ISLAM ,RELIGION OF ALLHA GROWING FAST THAN HUSSSAIN BOLT……..
MY ADVICE TO THEM DON’T WASTE U’R TIME/ENERGY HERE DIGGING U’R OWN HELL FIRE,U’R ACT ANGELS RECORDED ,ALLHA WILL PUNISH U…..I THINK U PEOPLE BETTER TO GO TO CLEAN PUBLIC TOILET,THAT BETTER THAN LYING HERE ………..
Neutral non-Muslim Sources confirming Islam to be the fastest growing religion.
I will just mention a few of them.
“Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion. In 1990, 935 million people were Muslims and this figure had escalated to around 1.2 billion by 2000, meaning that around one in five people follow Islam. Although the religion began in Arabia, by 2002 80% of all believers in Islam lived outside the Arab world. In the period 1990-2000, approximately 12.5 million more people converted to Islam than to Christianity” (Guinness World Records 2003, pg 102) (Emphasis added)
According to Reader’s digest Almanic year book Islam grew by 235% in 50 years between 1934-1984
According to CNN.
“The second-largest religion in the world after Christianity, Islam is also the fastest-growing religion. In the United States, for example, nearly 80 percent of the more than 1,200 mosques have been built in the past 12 years.
Some scholars see an emerging Muslim renaissance as Islam takes root in many traditionally Christian communities.
Islam has drawn converts from all walks of life, most notably African-Americans. Former NAACP President Benjamin Chavis, who joined the Nation of Islam recently, personifies the trend. “(Emphasis added)
cnn.com/WORLD/9704/14/egypt.islam/
“Today Islam is the fastest growing religion” (Is Organized religion a Sham by Ed Sepernik, pg 166)
“Islam is the fastest growing religion all over the world” (Allah and Elohim – Are they the Same God? , Preface)
Andrew also helps me with couple of more sources:
There are over a billion Muslims in the world today, including 3 to 5 million in the U.S., making it the second most populous religion on earth after Christianity. According to some estimates, Islam is the fastest-growing religion in the world. (The Joy of Sects, Peter Occhigrosso, 1996, p394-397)
Islam is the religion which has developed from the preaching and life of Muhammad, a citizen of the city of Mecca in Arabia, who early in the seventh century of the Christian Era appeared as a preacher of monotheism to his own people and founded a religious movement which today counts perhaps as many as 300,000,000 followers, mostly in the heat belt from Indonesia to Morocco. (Islam: Muhammad and His Religion, Arthur Jeffery, 1958, p xi-xiv)
MASS CONVERSION BEC’S OF HIGH CRIME RATE OF WESTERN WORLD ,MOST OF THEM R WOMEN ,THEY HATE WESTERN ” DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM ”
NON MUSLIM THEY EVER WIN OVER US………….
Champ says
islamophobia is a “sham” too.
Get lost spammer.
Your lies are unwelcome and boring.
Jay Boo says
sham
Isn’t it time to go pray?
I hear the call to prayer.
Hummer says
The problem is the so called “educated” elitists starting at the WH. Ask yourself some questions like do muslims want sharia law, there cannot be moderate muslims as this could never be any kind of Christian reformation amongst them so why do westerners fool themselves. The only opposition to them is dealing just like they’ve dealt the last 1400 years with those who are not muslim. UK has been waking up to the fact there will be nations in nations as they will not assimilate.
somehistory says
A few days ago, someone posted on another site, a reminder of what o said back when he was just trying to be president. In the quote, which was concerning his saluting the flag, wearing the flag pen, he said something about bringing this country, specifically its ability to defend itself, to the point acceptable to his *brothers* in the ME.
This speech by Comey is in line with those objectives.
It is all in line with giving power to the wild beast from satan, to make sure everyone bows in worship to that beast and its image.
(Revelation 13).
underbed cat says
If he is so clueless why has he been able to be effective…in many cases, not all,? I know the FBI guide book was stripped of any identifying factors involving islam…but he is arresting jihad terrorist correct? So why is that?
Workplace violence…..might be code.
Greytigertx says
Why in Gods name do we keep electing these morons? Our senators and representatives are so busy appeasing the muslim hordes they have no time to protect us. Of course they and their families will be cozy and safe in their government bunkers while we fight for our very survival. Makes you want to bitch slap them til their eyes bleed. Our goverment doesnt give a rats a** about anything or anyone. Get rid of all of them. ISIS needs to wipe Washington off the map. Then maybe we can start over.
Peggy says
ISIS won’t wipe Washington off the map because they want to take it all intact.
Even if the Obama’s of this world are ready to hand their cities to them, people are going to rise up.
Islam has tried this for the last time and this time the modern version of Crusaides is going to be their end.
As for our traitors in power they will go down with them.
underbed cat says
Sorry they are human, just indoctrinated from birth. They learn to hate infidels and Jews, and also to never speak to police, and to never truthfully talk about their religion and the intentions of a world caliphate. It is all available if one read authentic sources. The reason for the silence….slander law…with death penalty… Islamic.sharia.but we know that here….the majority of Americans do not.
dajjal says
“Comey said the FBI’s top objective is to combat counter-terrorism, specifically relating to ISIS attempting to recruit lone Americans.”
Typo or Freudian slip??? Combat counter-terrorism!! Double negative.
Islamophobia is camel excrement. Objection to being killed or enslaved for not being Muslim is not irrational, it is common sense.
Angemon says
Can’t tell if you’re a stormfag of a SJW trying to make CJs look bad. Not that it matters, they’re just two manifestations of the same nature and therefore equally loathable.
Peggy says
Angemon says
April 14, 2016 at 4:39 pm
Peggy posted:
“Every leader has faults and Putin is no exception”
Not that you ever saw a fault in Putin
==================================
I was replying to Wellington but you really can’t help yourself. Angemon I really don’t care what you think. I have my opinions and you have yours but your replies to me aren’t structured for debate for for an argument. “Not that you ever saw a fault in Putin” is just the latest example of your childish way of discussing an issue.
Maybe when you grow up and are ready for an adult conversation I might have that with you but until then you are just wasting your time replying to a comment not meant for you.
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“I was replying to Wellington”
You’re posting in a public forum.
“but you really can’t help yourself.”
Tsk tsk, don’t be childish, Peggy. You know what I said is true: you never saw a fault in Putin.
“Angemon I really don’t care what you think.”
You keep saying that, but your actions don’t match your words.
“I have my opinions and you have yours”
No, I have facts.
“but your replies to me aren’t structured for debate for for an argument.”
Or so you say. What “argument” are we “debating” exactly?
““Not that you ever saw a fault in Putin” is just the latest example of your childish way of discussing an issue.”
Have you ever saw a fault in Putin? If anyone here is childish and not fit for a debate that would be you, since all you can do is blurt “yeah, I have my opinions and you have yours” or “I don’t care what you think”.
“Maybe when you grow up and are ready for an adult conversation I might have that with you”
And another puerile put down from the person who thinks that saying “I have my opinions and you have yours” is a valid response in a debate. Facts are one thins. Opinions are another.
“but until then you are just wasting your time replying to a comment not meant for you.”
Again with the “not meant for you” nonsense? Public. Forum. What part of that do you fail to comprehend?
And for all your foot stomping and petty personal insults, you seemingly left out most of my post. I’m guessing it’s because you can’t deny or counter what I said. But if you “just happened” to have missed it, here it is:
You wrote:
And I replied:
Peggy says
You’re an idiot.
Unless you can get people to agree with all you say you won’t let go.
Do you think you are the smartest person here? It seems like you do.
Now, my opinion on certain issues is different to yours and I too have looked at evidence to come to my way of thinking but NOOOO you just can’t have that. You have to pop up and shove your crap down my throat.
Angemon, I leave your opinion to you and don’t comment on them whethere I agree with them or not because I know you won’t change your mind. How stupid are you not to know that I won’t change my mind by now?
You just have to be a bully. Yes, what you do is bullying. Yes, this is a public forum but when somjeone asks you politely to just leave them alone because they want to leave you alone you really should comply. When you don’t you become a bully.
Now for the last time LEAVE ME ALONE. If I reply to someone it is not an invitation for you to harrass me.
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“You’re an idiot.
Unless you can get people to agree with all you say you won’t let go.”
Why, aren’t you sharp as a bowling ball, and twice as thick! You’ve made that claim before, and I responded by pointing to posts of mine where I admitted I was wrong and corrected my stance, so you’re intentionally lying. The name for that is “slander”.
“Do you think you are the smartest person here? It seems like you do.”
No, I don’t. I am, whoever, definitely smarter than you.
“Now, my opinion on certain issues is different to yours and I too have looked at evidence to come to my way of thinking but NOOOO you just can’t have that.”
Like I said, opinions are one thing, facts are another. And you don’t get to excuse yourself from ignoring facts by saying that’s just your opinion. If it’s raining outside and I say it’s sunny outside, my statement isn’t any more truthful just because I add “well, that’s my opinion”.
“You have to pop up and shove your crap down my throat.”
Public. Forum. What part of that don’t you get? If you don’t like what I have to say then scroll down as soon as you see my name, because you’re sure as hell not entitled to have your posts being made above any criticism.
“Angemon, I leave your opinion to you and don’t comment on them whethere I agree with them or not because I know you won’t change your mind.”
Again, trying to frame everything I say as being “opinions” is not going to work. Plus, I distinctly remember you coming at me when I was not “talking to you” and telling me to “shut up” because I was “in the minority”.
“How stupid are you not to know that I won’t change my mind by now?”
I’m stupid enough to believe you can be made to change your stance when in the face of facts and evidence.
“You just have to be a bully. Yes, what you do is bullying.”
Crybully. And that claim of yours is laughter inducing because a few weeks ago you came to me out of nowhere and told me to “shut up” because I was “in the minority”.
“Yes, this is a public forum but when somjeone asks you politely to just leave them alone because they want to leave you alone you really should comply. When you don’t you become a bully.”
Nope. That’s not like a public forum works. If you don’t like to have your posts criticized then don’t post on a public forum. You don’t get to pick your critics and you don’t get a free pass just because you cry bully. Right now, you’re being no better than muslims who claim they’re being persecuted by law enforcement just because they’re muslims.
“Now for the last time LEAVE ME ALONE.”
Again: PUBLIC. FORUM.
“If I reply to someone it is not an invitation for you to harrass me.”
Oh, I’m “harassing” you now? By replying to things you write on a PUBLIC FORUM? Tell me more about this cognitive dissonance of yours.
And since it seems you’re trying to play the victim with the only purpose to deflect perfectly valid criticism, I’ll just point out that what I said still stands. You wrote:
And I replied:
Your, *ahem*, “logic” is not consistently applied. So I’m not allowed to say anything about Putin because allegedly what he says or does doesn’t affect me since I don’t live in Russia, but you get to say whatever you want about the FBI or Merkel because what they say or do allegedly affect you, even though you don’t live in the US.
It’s no wonder you need to resort to personal insults and crybullying – when it comes to logic and facts, you have nothing to show for yourself.
Angemon says
P.S.: Here’s what I wrote on April 12, 2016 at 9:03 pm
And here’s what you wrote a couple of days later (April 14, 2016 at 1:30 am)
Clearly whenever you see my name you just scroll past what I write and in no way you ever refer to it…
dumbledoresarmy says
Above, the Mohammedan spammer and would-be dawa artist, ‘sham’ (unintentionally signalling his real nature by his nom de plume, i.e. sham, which rhymes with spam), spewed out a flood of boasting and threats, prominently featuring the usual claim that Islam is the ‘fastest growing religion’.
Actually, in the USA, it *ain’t*.
It is *Buddhism* that is growing faster than Islam, in the USA; certainly, it was the fastest in 2010, with a growth rate of 2.6 percent, as opposed to the Muslim 1.9. Hindus were growing at a rate of 2 percent, also faster than Islam. Sikhs – entirely by immigration – were increasing in the USA at a rate of 3.4 percent (watch out, Mohammedans, because Sikhs historically have been *fierce* foes of Islam; just wait till all the Sikhs in the USA wise up and join ACT for America…).
Funnily enough, something similar is the case in Australia. The Muslim hordes are, of course, multiplying as fast as they can by immigration-jihad and breeding-jihad, force-breeding their enslaved females. BUT even so: the *Buddhists* – who don’t practise force-breeding at all, they have similar numbers of children to other Aussies – are growing faster than the Muslims. And the increase in the number of Hindus is not far behind (Muslim increase 4.7 percent, Hindu increase 4.6 percent. (Combine the total *number* of Hindus and Buddhists in Australia and there are *more* of them combined, in terms of absolute numbers – about 700 000 – than there are Muslims – yay for my fellow-Infidels! Some of that increase is due to Buddhists and Hindus from Malaysia, Indonesia, Pakistan and Bangladesh ‘voting with their feet’ and heading for Australia as the nearest friendly Infidel-majority country. And I will bet my bottom dollar hat if those persons raised-Hindu or raised-Buddhist in Australia change their religion, it will either be to become atheists/ non-religious – like lots of other Aussies – or to become… *Christians*. Not Muslims.
Islam ain’t the fastest increasing group in China, either. And that’s the single biggest chunk of the human population.
In China, the Christian church is growing at a rate of knots. Despite terrible persecution in the past, and ongoing restrictions and sporadic outbursts of persecution today, the Christian growth rate in China is estimated at 2.7 percent; while Buddhism/ traditional Chinese beliefs grow at 2.5 percent. The estimated Mohammedan growth rate? It’s 0.3 percent. And in absolute numbers there are more Christians in China than Muslims, even though Muslims got into China in the 8th century, and even though there were almost no Christians in China between the 12th and the 19th century, and even though Christians were persecuted horrendously in the 20th century (and under the communists, all missionaries were expelled). A rough guesstimate of the number of Christians in China? – 100 million. Guesstimate of number of Muslims? – sixty million (and remember, growing at a slower rate than the Christians *or* the Buddhists). “Fastest growing religion?” – PFFFT, not so much, once one starts breaking things down by regions and nations.
Now for India – which represents *another* huge chunk of the total number of humans on earth. There, the Christian growth rate is a bit over 3 percent (estimated) – *faster* than that of the Muslims, at 2 percent. And that is in spite of the fact that Christians *don’t* practise polygyny like the Muslims do, and *don’t* force-marry young girls, and *don’t* have hordes of children like Muslims do. And in spite of the fact that there are parts of India where Christians are suffering episodes of persecution. Incidentally Buddhism, too, appears to have a higher growth rate, in India, than Islam.
As for the rest of the world, the picture is mixed. But Muslims are *not* always and everywhere the group increasing fastest.
In Singapore, for example, Christian growth rate is 3.9 percent whereas the Muslim growth rate is 1.8. That is: in Singapore Christianity is growing *twice* as fast as Islam. (And the non-religious, the Buddhists, the Hindus and the Sikhs *also* are growing faster than the Muslim mob, in Singapore.)
Islam is growing fastest in those places where it can *kill* and/ or drive out and/ or kidnap and force-‘convert’ Christians (such forced ‘conversion’ usually involve the seizure of children and teenagers who can be terrorised and brutalised – e.g. by repeated rape – and mentally ‘broken’ by ferocious brainwashing techniques); where it can *kill* Muslims who leave Islam (whether for Christianity or anything else including atheism). The increase in the Muslim percentage of the population in Iraq, Syria and Northern Nigeria – and in West Papua – is NOT due to freewill conversions; it is due to Muslim breeding jihad, immigration jihad, and the driving out, killing, and force ‘conversion’ of the non-Muslims that were there. The increase in the Muslim percentage in historically-Infidel countries in Europe and elsewhere is mostly due to immigration and force-breeding by Muslim immigrants, NOT to conversions.
Where there is a ‘free market’ for ideas, or where (as in china) *all* religious systems are to some degree repressed and where ‘breeding jihad’ is somewhat limited, Islam does *not* come out in front in the conversion stakes. In the West, there are those who convert to Islam and then – because this *is* still the free world, and the sharia assassins do not have a completely free rein – turn right round and LEAVE when they read the fine print and realize what a sh*t religion they’ve actually signed up for. We’ve had not a few of *those* sorts of ex-Muslims right here at jihadwatch, from time to time.
Peggy says
@Angemon,
You keep using public forum defense to keep at me.
If I kept seeing you on a street and I was smoking and you kept telling me how it’s going to kill me even though I had already told you to leave me alone would you keep saying how it’s public street so you can?
Then when I speak to someone about that you approach me again and tell me how wrong I am.
Just because we are on a public forum doesn’t mean that all civility and manners should be thrown out.
You obviously have neither.
So yes, your actions do make you a bully.
Even if you think that you have every right to keep replying to me even if I am not talking to you, the fact that I have asked you to ignore me should be enough for you to do so. It’s called manners.
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“@Angemon,
You keep using public forum defense to keep at me.”
And you keep wanting to have your posts on pedestal where people are not allowed to criticize them. For whatever reason. If you want a “safe space” go to college and say you’re triggered.
“If I kept seeing you on a street and I was smoking and you kept telling me how it’s going to kill me even though I had already told you to leave me alone would you keep saying how it’s public street so you can?”
What a fallacious comparison. This is a *public forum*, not a street. I have no idea if you’re smoking or not because we’re not in the same physical location. And comparing the act of smoking with saying something out loud for everyone to hear? Tsk tsk. A better comparison would be that both of us were in soapboxes speaking our minds and I questioned you about what you said. Which is what’s going on here. If you say something out loud in a public space for everyone else to hear (or, in this case, read) you don’t get to say “I’m not talking to you so shut up you stupid idiot”. Because you spoke out loud in a public space for everyone else to hear. Do you follow?
“Just because we are on a public forum doesn’t mean that all civility and manners should be thrown out.”
You mean like when you “approached” me out of nowhere and told me to shut up because I was in the minority? Yes, how civil and well-mannered of you! Or that time you called me idiot or stupid? You know, in this very topic?
“So yes, your actions do make you a bully.”
Nope. You’re a crybully. I questioned your logic and you tried to deflect fair criticism by trying to play the victim. But if I’m a bully for questioning your logic, what are you, since you told me in to shut up because I was in the minority? That’s about as textbook case of a bully as you’re going to find here.
“Even if you think that you have every right to keep replying to me”
Which I do, the same way you have every right to reply to me even if I told you you were stupid, idiot, and to shut up because you’re in the minority.
“even if I am not talking to you”
Again: public forum. What you write here is out for everyone to read.
“ the fact that I have asked you to ignore me should be enough for you to do so.”
Nope. You don’t get to evade valid criticism and get away with insane troll logic just because you “ask” someone not to reply to you.
“It’s called manners.”
Lol!!! You think you have the moral high ground to talk about manners?!?!?! You, with your thuggish “there’s more of us than there is of you, so shut up” manners?!?!?!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
*snort*
Anyway, like I said, you’re a crybully trying to dismiss perfectly valid criticism without having to address it. You, in your usual defence of Putin, wrote:
To which I replied:
Your, *ahem*, “logic” is not consistently applied. So I’m not allowed to say anything about Putin because allegedly what he says or does doesn’t affect me since I don’t live in Russia, but you get to say whatever you want about the FBI or Merkel because what they say or do allegedly affect you, even though you don’t live in the US or Europe. What gives?
Peggy says
You really are insane.
Your mind is all over the place like dog’s dinner and you can’t even see how ridiculous you are.
I’ll will tell you one thing. You’re a fool and so obviously out of control so I won’t debate anything with you. You see, when you argue with a fool he takes you down to his level and beats you with experience.
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“You really are insane.”
Nope. But you are if you think crybullying works
“Your mind is all over the place like dog’s dinner and you can’t even see how ridiculous you are.”
You write that, presumably with a straight face, even though I’ve asked you the same f***ing thing several times while you made up all manners of inane excuses to avoid answering it. Projection, thy name is Peggy!
“I’ll will tell you one thing. You’re a fool and so obviously out of control so I won’t debate anything with you.”
Name calling? Tsk tsk, that’s not civil or well mannered, Peggy. And of course you won’t debate anything with me. You know you’ll get your ass handed to you in a silver platter with a big red bow on top and a matching card to boot.
“You see, when you argue with a fool he takes you down to his level and beats you with experience.”
That’s all very nice and dandy, but you’re still trying to excuse yourself from facing the criticism I did of your “logic”. I’m just going to repeat it – again – in the vain hope that you’ll actually address it. You, in your usual defence of Putin, wrote:
To which I replied:
Your, *ahem*, “logic” is not consistently applied. So I’m not allowed to say anything about Putin because allegedly what he says or does doesn’t affect me since I don’t live in Russia, but you get to say whatever you want about the FBI or Merkel because what they say or do allegedly affect you, even though you don’t live in the US or Europe. What gives?