Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono is working from the assumption that poverty causes terrorism. The New York Times reported in March that “not long after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001…Alan B. Krueger, the Princeton economist, tested the widespread assumption that poverty was a key factor in the making of a terrorist. Mr. Krueger’s analysis of economic figures, polls, and data on suicide bombers and hate groups found no link between economic distress and terrorism.”
CNS News noted in September 2013 that “according to a Rand Corporation report on counterterrorism, prepared for the Office of the Secretary of Defense in 2009, ‘Terrorists are not particularly impoverished, uneducated, or afflicted by mental disease. Demographically, their most important characteristic is normalcy (within their environment). Terrorist leaders actually tend to come from relatively privileged backgrounds.’ One of the authors of the RAND report, Darcy Noricks, also found that according to a number of academic studies, ‘Terrorists turn out to be more rather than less educated than the general population.’”
So Australia giving money to Indonesia will not end terrorism. It will just be another form of jizya.
“Combat terrorism through prosperity: SBY,” by Elise Scott, AAP, April 8, 2016:
Australia and Indonesia should work together to combat terrorism by lifting people around the globe out of poverty, a former Indonesian president believes.
Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, who is visiting Canberra, also praised Australia’s acceptance of Muslims as an inspiring example to a world troubled by Islamophobia.
He believes there is a direct link between a more prosperous world and a peaceful one, and is urging Australia to promote sustainable development goals.
“Then more poor will graduate to middle class and become the owner of a dignified life,” he told a defence policy conference on Friday.
Hundreds of millions of people were trapped in insecurity, injustice and marginalisation which led to hopelessness, he said.
“In some of these areas, fertile minds can become corrupted.”
In the digital era, the world was facing a “unique new battleground” in the struggle between tolerance and hatred.
Dr Yudhoyono – who is widely recognised as instrumental in improving the Australia-Indonesia relationship – paired the two nations as models of “open and free multicultural nations”.
“I know that Muslims in Australia feel free, respected and welcome,” he said.
“And this is an inspiring example to a world troubled by Islamophobia.”
Not by Islamic jihad terrorism, but by “Islamophobia.”
The national security of the neighbours was also interrelated, as confirmed by the 2002 Bali bombings.
However, while reflecting on the improved relationship between Jakarta and Canberra – which had been elevated far above mutual mistrust over the past decade – Dr Yudhoyono issued a subtle warning to Australian governments.
Don’t leave Indonesia out of the loop.
The then-president recalled how he’d found out the United States was planing a marine force in Darwin while being interviewed by reporters at the APEC conference in 2011.
“It was a surprise to me,” he said.
“In any situation where Australia or their allies decide to deploy larger forces, especially in the northern part of Australia … it is critical to communicate with Indonesia.”
Dr Yudhoyono – who was president from 2004 to 2014 – was invited to the Australian Strategic Policy Institute conference as the keynote speaker, something former ambassador to the United States Kim Beazley described as amazing.
“It is an extraordinary thing, that at this very Australian gathering, the most significant speech has been made by you,” Mr Beazley told the former president.
“I cannot think of any foreign interlocutor that Australia has had over the years who has understood us so well.
“All I can say is that we don’t actually deserve it but it is good that we got it.”
That’s the problem.

Champ says
islam is a criminal enterprise and it always has been …
katherine says
The West gave Saudis TRILLIONS of dollars over a span of a few decades and that money is now being used to destroy the west in return. It is being used to radicalize the entire planet’s Muslim population, to buy out western Media and influence western politicians or organizations to support Jihad and Hijra – so now he expects us to believe that the extremists would be grateful people who will use the money in benevolent ways ?
ItsJo says
NO ONE has to PAY these “ISLAMIC/MUSLIM TERRORIST-SAVAGES” AS BLACKMAIL TO STOP THEIR SAVAGE KILLINGS, WHICH WOULD ONLY MAKE THEM DO IT FOR “MORE MONEY COMING THEIR WAY.” KILL THESE BASTARDS IN RETURN.
THIS PRESIDENT, WHO SUGGESTED PAYNG THESE “MUSLIM TERRORISTS” CAN PAY THEM, IF HE CHOOSES TO, AND SUFFER FROM THIS SAVAGE “CULT” THAT IS NO WAY…A RELIGION, and put HIS people in DANGER.
RHMS says
What a fool this man is.
sidney penny says
Islamic Indonesia like Modern Moderate Malaysia should reduce corruption so that hundreds of millions of people who are trapped in insecurity, injustice and marginalisation can be free of it.
Bob says
They could also offer to take in a flock of Muslim ‘refugees’…Oh, I will have my little joke!
Singh the Sikh says
Brilliant idea Susilo.
After all Muslims are master extortionists.
Not just the terrorists, but even national leaders, right down to the ordinary Ali and Abdul on the street.
This latest call exemplifies extortion on a grand, global, mind-boggling scale – governments are already sponsoring so-called de-radicalisation programmes.
Someone please explain why we don’t have to pay Hindus, Christians, Jews, Sikhs, Bhuddists and every other flaming region on earth to stop them killing us.
Why only religion of peace?
jihad3tracker says
One of my favorite counter-jihad experts, David Wood, shreds the “poverty causes terrorism” excuse in this five minute video, which I have recommended here on JW many times:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rBIxL2xxaE
Please send it on to all the Western-privilege-guilt clueless members of your family, plus friends, ministers, rabbis, priests, gurus, federal and state elected officials where you live.
Also, because the weekend starts soon, and many of us are on the traditional Friday/Saturday off work schedule, take 25 minutes of undistracted time to watch another of David’s videos, “Three Stages of Jihad” — no hotlink here but just search the title on Google.
He uses a touch of humor to make unpleasant facts penetrate resistant brains more easily, but David’s message is 100% serious, and abundantly cited with passages from the Qur’an and Sunnah.
As an extra bonus, Barry Soetoro (the original incarnation of Barack Obama) appears in a supporting role — not by his own volition, of course, yet as a confirmer of reality that his heart has always been filled with love for Islam, not Christianity.
mortimer says
OSAMA BIN LADEN WAS A MULTIMILLIONAIRE…
CNS News noted in September 2013:
“According to a Rand Corporation report on counterterrorism, prepared for the Office of the Secretary of Defense in 2009, “Terrorists are not particularly impoverished, uneducated, or afflicted by mental disease. Demographically, their most important characteristic is normalcy (within their environment). Terrorist leaders actually tend to come from relatively privileged backgrounds.” One of the authors of the RAND report, Darcy Noricks, also found that according to a number of academic studies, “Terrorists turn out to be more rather than less educated than the general population.”
The Times Online reported the following as far back as April 2005:
“Three-quarters of the Al-Qaeda members were from upper middle-class homes and many were married with children; 60% were college educated, often in Europe or the United States.
There are innumerable examples of affluent Muslims becoming jihad terrorists. One was Maher “Mike” Hawash of Portland, Oregon, a well-regarded Intel executive who made $360,000 a year at the crest of a highly successful career. Around the year 2000, Hawash began to become more religious, growing his beard long, rejecting the nickname “Mike,” and attending the supremacist Islamic Center of Portland. Ultimately he served a seven-year prison term for conspiring to aid the Taliban….
Raja says
Singh,
Your comment is a thought provoking one in a world numbed by materialism and leftists supremacists.
sidney penny says
Do not know why Australia invited him when he says this:
““And this is an inspiring example to a world troubled by Islamophobia.”
yes, as Robert Spencer says “Not by Islamic jihad terrorism, but by “Islamophobia.””
Even if he said as Obama says world troubled by Violent Extremism, it would be better than Islamophobia.
How can he say this and keep a straight face?
On I forgot, he was talking to infidels in Australia.
Marcel Bérubé says
Is this what is call DESINFORMATION ?
Baucent says
“Hundreds of millions of people were trapped in insecurity, injustice and marginalisation which led to hopelessness, he said.
“In some of these areas, fertile minds can become corrupted.”
Yeah, like that UK medical student recruiting for ISIS at the medical university in Sudan. Disadvantaged folks from poor families….
Westman says
And that prescribed pattern for life that causes “insecurity, injustice and marginalisation which led to hopelessness” has what name? Say again?
Yes, the sure way to defeat the religious mafia is to give them protection money. They will be so guilt ridden that they will send money to the national treasury, declare allegiance to the nation, move into kufar neighborhoods, shake hands with neighbors, and send their wives and daughters to Starbucks without hijabs and bushy-faced males.
I can just see it now. None of that money would produce more potential jihadists, buy terrorist supplies, or support a cyclical jihad-producing Mosque and its assistance-sucking Imam.
I’m sold. Where do I send my 2 cents?
Bear Tom says
This is the man who as top political and security minister could find nothing wrong with the actions of Jihad militias operating training centres in Indonesia. And later took part in the invasion of East Timor. East Timor was left 99% Catholic by the Portugese when they granted independence in 1975. One month after the declaration of independence they were invaded and Islam declared the religion of the country.
He was accused of war crimes against the Timorese. As Honorary General of the Indonesian forces in 2000 he benefitted from the blanket amnesty that was granted by the government to all those who had been involved in human rights abuses. That’s right, noone was brought to justice for the murders of 200,000 Timorese, described as the worst case of Jihad abuse in modern times.
Some Australians have not forgotten these facts.
Angemon says
Those numbers are not right, Bear Tom. There was a sizeable Catholic population in East Timor when the Portuguese left, and there were also many animists, but after the Indonesian invasion they were forced to convert to a religion officially recognized by Indonesia. The converts overwhelmingly went with Catholicism as a rallying point and symbol of defiance against islam, the religion of their invaders.
Raja says
Angemon,
If my memory serves me right about a decade ago the Indonesians butchered about 600 Christians and plundered their property and city/colony. The Islamic world must have rejoiced as they normally do. Is this guy justifying a bloody socialism under the guise of Islam? Being an Islamist he does not care about the havoc Islamist do when they are fattened by hosts. The examples are endless: Muslim immigrants in Assam, Delhi, Europe, US, Australia and so on.
The so called Islamophobia is Ok but not infidelophobia.
The logic that a Muslim king who destroyed Nalanda university in the 5th century was very poor man and that he was seeking “treasure troves” in an university is ridiculous to say the least.
Dewana says
During Yudhoyono’s administration in the period 2004-2014 disturbances from radical(ized) islamist movements had been running rampant. A more secular(ized) (civilian) president like Jokowi assisted by a concurrently secular(ized) (civilian) Home Affairs Minister has proven to be much better than a former militaryman with regard to religious radicalism.
citycat says
The world is “troubled by Islamophobia”.
By the word itself.
Whoever constructed the word “islamophobia” is an enemy of Infidels. I think a phobia, an unreasonable fear, is a personal experience rather than an enmasse experience. More fluff for wotever reason.
TheDane says
What a clever idea! Especially when keeping in mind that there are approx. 300 million jihadi-prone/jihadi-ready moslems around the world… let’s do the math on that one, shall we??
hmmm.. Osama bin Laden was filthy rich, so what would have done the trick with such a guy? It is beyond me how stupid people are today. Someone should nuke a couple of places in Syria and a couple of other nasty critter-countries down there! That would set the record straight and probably even give us some respect.
ploome says
its called jizya
Panmelia says
“It’s called jizya”
Yep, or to put it in plain English, a protection racket such as mafia mobs have long practised: “Hand ova dah money and we will kindly refrain from killing youse. It’s an offer youse can’t refuse.”
Except that in this case we have a mega-moron making the gangsters an offer to pay THEM if they will only stop blowing up countries, which they only do because they are so poor and deprived, boo hoo. And they are so upset and hurt about the dreadful islamophuckyou they have to bear, it’s so sad.
Of course, moMAD got the idea of an international protection racket direct from allaaaaah back in the 7th century AD. He conquered the countries first, mind you.
citycat says
Muslims have Infidelophobia instilled from birth, so there is no noticeable change when the muslim gets infidelophobia.
Not like the change in infidels due to a “later in life” realization of the threatening presence of Islãm.
Realization of the presence of a threat is not unreasonable fear. Not Islamophobia, a non word, worked into being accepted by the masses.
It is a deliberate fluffy cloud obscuring the reality of the Conscious Islamic Invasion
Jerry says
Muslims who kill for allah don’t do it for the money, it’s no incentive for them. Especially true with suicide bombers. They do it because they are living out their commitment to allah’s commands. So bribing them with money will only increase their means of gaining weapons and bombs. Now, I’m all for some kind of special outreach, like you might do for the mentally ill. Because to me much of islam is akin to a mental illness. Morally and intellectually it’s a retarded faith, so we could provide classes to show them why civilized people can’t allow it in their nations. That’s far better than Cruz’s idea of patrolling their neighborhoods.
Okay, I’m being somewhat sarcastic, but not totally.
In all seriousness, what they need in my opinion is uncompromising tough love. We need to let them know that their religious nonsense is something we cannot condone, it’s a hateful incitement to violence. And on a national scale it becomes too grave a threat to civil order to be tolerated. It’s not a religion. It’s a school of bad ideas that is creating too many murderers and terrorist organizations to deserve our respect. It’s religious fascism. If they want to live with us they must be the compromisers, not us. We should be under no obligation to dumb down for them, not in morals or intellect. At a minimum we should:
~Create nationwide anti-sharia legislation, their foreign laws are an attack on our constitution and human rights.
~No more mosques, they are un-American in purpose and breeding grounds for terror. (Not to mention ugly and loud.)
~A moratorium on muslim immigration, they are too dedicated to islam to be trusted in any great number.
~Deport the crooks and trouble makers back to their home country, they are bad guests undeserving of our hospitality.
~Ban the burqa and niqab, they’re oppressive to women, an insult to our culture, and a hindrance to assimilation.
~Enact a nationwide publicity campaign to help free muslims who want to leave the faith. Nobody should be compelled to religion in America, especially one as retarded and violent as islam.
That’s where I would want to start, maybe the smart people can do better.
Jaladhi says
In one sentence – just ban Islam and relieve humanity from this scourge!
Florida Jim says
Isn’t that how John Gotti and Sammy The Bull became rich?
Jaladhi says
Always ready to grab, steal, loot by begging or force, intimidation, extortion from non-Muslims. These parasites will destroy the humanity!
pdxnag says
Pay off the mob, get more mobism.
Don McKellar says
Mister Toad has spoken! Obey, dhimmis!
David says
Pay the terrorist? ??
Well I would give them exactly what they deserve. That would be the electric chair, the gas chamber or the hangman rope!
It’s folly to try to make a deal with any bully. As a kid I found out quickly that, if you fight back and hit them just as hard as you can. They will leave you alone.
bullies like other cowards only come at you in packs. But, once they know you can really hurt them these cowards run back into the shadows with the rest of the cockroaches.
Muslims are driven to rape and murder by the satanic forces that control this cult of blood. Only by being ready to fight fire with fire might we survive the dark times ahea.
Thank you Barack Obama for inviting this horror into our country. May you rot in he’ll for what you have done!
Michael Copeland says
“in the struggle between tolerance and hatred”, Mr. Yudhoyono?
Islam does not tolerate the propagation of any other religion but Islam.
“As a muslim”, explains Anjem Choudary, “I must have hatred for everything that is non-Islam”.
The “excellent pattern” praised in Koran 60:4 (part of Islamic law) is:
“..between us and you animosity and hatred forever…”
Pot? Kettle?
Hope says
“I know that Muslims in Australia feel free, respected, and welcome.”
Which means that the plan to dominate and subjugate Australians is already well underway. When will our dhimmi leaders realize that “respect” and “welcome” from non-muslims means submission and weakness to Muslims? These people need to be kept on a very short leash.
Dave Schwep says
Leadership ‘brilliance’ !! – Let’s reward those who want us all dead !!
jewdog says
Like jizya, this guy’s plan is a kind of extortion.
We should be extracting compensation from terrorists by putting them to work as we do common criminals. They owe us, not the other way around.
Peter says
Pay Muslim doctors, engineers, teachers, students, imams, sheikhs, etc. MORE?
If poverty was the cause of terrorism (a tactic or means, not an end in itself), then why isn’t there more terrorism by non-Muslims?
Muhammad: “I have been made victorious with terror” (hadith, Sahih Bukhari).
Muhammad was in fact a terrorist. He used terror (a tool) to impose his 7th century religious, political, and social fantasies and delusions on Arab polytheists, the Jews of Medina, and the outposts of Byzantium and Persia (the end objective).
If he is the role model of ideal Muslim behavior, then maybe the problem here isn’t poverty. It is Islam.
Jay Boo says
Good evening Muslim World.
Time to go back to sleep.
Before you say your prayers ask yourself a simple question.
Do you ever feel ashamed to be a Muslim?
Angry Aussie says
The Australian Government pays many hundreds of millions of dollars to the Islamic community to aid in deradicalisation programs that we all know will never work. It’s a jizya they pay and it’s unacceptable to all Australians except the protected Muslims, who just keep demanding more and more.
Raja says
This guy seems to be a “good” Islamist. This immoral beast wants more and more. The world is already paying through the nose for oil etc (Trillions of dollars). and they are siphoned off by Sheikhs and other ruling class.He is implying to say that killing is OK and as such should be branded Islamophobia. Are Australians so stupid not to question his reasoning?
This is the problem with Islamic psyche: Everything boils down to ENTITLEMENT. Killing, rape, extortion (IN ANY NAME), land grabbing, lawlessness, all kinds of supremacist behavior is Islamic entitlement .This guy has dared to insult billions of poor humans who don’t behave the way Islamist do. What about this reason my dear leftist?
Truth says
I’ll give them a bullet.
David says
Such a simple solution! Why has this not been mentioned before? Pay them money to stop being jihadis and get them jobs at Starbucks and MacDonald’s! Peace will then reign on earth and I will find true love and happiness with a supermodel.
Guest says
This man is a fool and a coward. Terrorists can’t be negotiated. They don’t want to negotiate! They want to kill all who don’t worship their false in their own way. What we need to do is exterminate them. That’s the only way to stop them. Not every lost soul is a lost cause.
K. says
Pay Muslims to stop being jihad terrorists? Why of course. With a bullet.
bdcorvette says
Poverty probably does contribute to terrorism, BUT paying terrorists not to be terrorists will work about as well as LBJ’s social welfare worked in the black community where black crime has exploded. Learn history’s lesson on this one.