The Islamization of Germany continues. In the wake of mass sex assaults by Muslim migrants in Cologne on New Year’s Eve, Germany is moving to remove from German society what offends the migrants, and to conform to Sharia sensibilities. Will anyone in Germany have the courage at any point before full adoption of Sharia to stand up and call a halt?
“First it was sausages..now Germany ‘BANS’ sexy women in adverts after Cologne sex assaults,” by Selina Sykes, Express, April 13, 2016 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
GERMANY has announced plans to ban images of scantily-clad women in adverts in response to the sexual assaults in Cologne on New Year’s Eve.
German Justice Minister Heiko Maas said the move to ban ads which “reduce women or men to sexual objects” is an attempt to create a “modern gender image”.
The proposal, if introduced later this year, would see courts decide on what qualifies as sexist.
The plan has been called political correctness gone mad by its critics, who said it was the first step towards a “nanny state”.
It comes following a controversy over claims made by a senior politician that some schools and canteens in Germany are ‘banning’ the serving of pork to avoid offending Muslim migrants.
Free Democratic Party (FPD) leader Christian Lindner said: “His plans to ban nudity and sexual advertising are completely narrow-minded.
“To demand the veiling of women or taming of men, is something known among radical Islamic religious leaders, but not from the German minister of justice.”
The move comes a day after the first case related to a string of sexual assaults and muggings against women across on New Year’s Eve went to trial….

SCROB says
Correction: FDP not FPD
Angemon says
Another example of the synergy between islam and “feminism” – under islam women are to be covered, and “feminists” like to body shame pretty women. Remember the case of Protein World’s “Beach Body” ads?
mortimer says
It has nothing to do with the Islamic rape jihad…they will continue to look the other way. This is an excuse to impose Sharia law little by little.
The Leftards believe it isn’t rape if their noble savage protégés do it.
mortimer says
HYPOCRISY OF LEFT – Nigel Farage at recent ‘Munk Debate’
“We’ve lived through a hundred years of female emancipation and liberation and now we have the mayors of towns in Germany and in Sweden and in other parts of Northern Europe telling women not to walk out after dark on their own. And in the wake of the Cologne sex attacks, we had the mayor of that city telling women they really ought to dress differently and behave differently in public. That Simon (Schama), is what is sad, and I find the sheer hypocrisy of those of you who said you were going to defend female rights when actually YOU THINK MIGRANT RIGHTS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN FEMALE RIGHTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. Frankly, shame on you.”
According to the Left, newly-arrived Muslim rapists have more rights than European women living in their own countries.
It is the Left that are LOONS.
Helen says
You are so right.
I love Europe and have been there many times. I WANT to go again, but I am afraid to go to Germany, even though my forefathers were from there and I speak the language. This is HORRIBLE to give in to these beasts. God help us all.
James Davis says
OK, so The Communist, Left is the “loon’s, & The National Socialist’s were the pro-racial-purity, goon’s. Is their any reason
why The European German’s, & The anti-Semetic, Muslim’s can’t
meet in the middle, & resolve this
racially suicidal, outrage? It’s either that are a “coup d’etat.
Shane says
Germany is submitting to Islam, just like most other European countries are. There is little hope that Western Civilizaton will survive the 21st century if this trend continues. The left, feminists and Islamists are destroying Western Civ!
Marie says
We must stop making our society to fit Muslims, this just makes them stronger, we must start sending them back to middle east where they belong. they arr not civilized people they are savages and should be treated as such.
gravenimage says
Angemon wrote:
Remember the case of Protein World’s “Beach Body” ads?
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Muslims sure have, Angemon.
The Muslim mayor of London just banned this very ad, using the Taqiyya rhetoric that they are “body shaming”. Of course, this has nothing to do with that–it is his first move in imposing Shari’ah norms.
“Sharia London: Muslim mayor bans ‘body shaming” advertisements”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/06/sharia-london-muslim-mayor-bans-body-shaming-advertisements/comment-page-1#comment-1458258
john spielman says
well, it will be BYE BYE to OCTOBER FEST next, and then … Germany has been conquered without a shot being fired!
nicu says
Merkel is a traitor – first she sold us and Europe will be next !
They worry about the poor rapefugees all the time – ignoring we are not in Saudi Arabia — while more and more or rights and culture vanishes
Jay Boo says
Put Merkel in a sexy ad
or better yet Hillary.
Muslims would complain that such cruel torture is a Geneva Convention violation.
James Davis says
I beieve Merkel is a self-serving,
Anti-White, Communist, traitor.
Parachute her sorry, P.C. cowardly ass, dressed up in a bacon, pork roast, & pig ears,
uniform, into the northern Sudan,
northern Nigeria, or perhap’s, Iran. Case closed!
rabrooks says
Wait a min…. If I member correctly, don’t they have a pretty active red-light district/sex industry that is in place to “accommodate” such needs? There’s a hole in the logic………
ed says
You need to pay in red light areas , Muslims believe they are above paying infidels . It’s there religious duty to rape non believers .
Peggy says
I would feel sorry for the working girls there if Muslims started to frequent the places.
Can’t imagine anything more horrible than those slimy hands touching me and the thought of these evil ghouls touching those women makes me want to puke.
Peter Charles says
When will it occur to the Germans it is their very existence that offends the muzzies.
Vyx says
Simple. They will convert to Islam.
nicu says
or get our heads cut off
Bill says
Watch Hollywood and media icons will fall all over themselves supporting the reasonableness of this measure in the interest of being more inclusive. Legislating morality is fine with them so long as it furthers a leftist agenda.
Peggy says
Angelina Jollie. She has proven to be a propaganda whore.
DFD says
Peggy,
You really are a Lady. Sooo polite about Angelina….
Peggy says
Does she deserve any better?
DFD says
Nope! On the contrary
Peggy says
Germany has just sent a message that they are capitulating.
If women in bikinis offend Muslims and we must be sensitive to everyone’s feeling then the tents Muslim women wear offend us. What are they prepared to do about that?
WCM says
What do you suppose they will do with the North Sea (e.g., the Island of Sylt) and Baltic nude beaches?
gravenimage says
That’s already started in the West, as well:
“Australia: Topless bathing to be banned to ‘protect’ Muslims”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/12/australia-topless-bathing-to-be-banned-to-protect-muslims
Lynette says
Good question. I am offended when they behead some innocent person. I am offended when they marry young under age girls to old dirty skanky men. I am offended when they blame and stone women when the filthy men rape them by force and dont control their lust. I am offended for the evil they have done and I am offended that I breathe the same air as them. Many many other things I am offended by!!
Do moslums change themselves? No, yet the inane powers that be dont put pressure on moslums do they? Keep appeasing vile evil islam and followers. We must not sink to islam level. ISLAM MUST and moslums MUST change to our laws or leave our countries. Moslums MUST not receive any welfare or other benefits ever. They need to work or much better DO NOT immigrate. Certainly not be permitted to bring in their extended families as well.
sidney penny says
Why not ban the head instead of the ad
LB says
Can’t wait for Oktoberfest!
rabrooks says
Some towns have banned Christmas celebrations/activities.
sidney penny says
Why is Germany blaming the victim,instead of the perpetrators?
Blame the victim is very common in Muslims society.It is the woman’s (uncovered meat) fault if she is raped because she was not dressed properly.
Like this story from Australia.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/muslim-leader-blames-women-for-sex-attacks/story-e6frg6nf-1111112419114
THE nation’s most senior Muslim cleric has blamed immodestly dressed women who don’t wear Islamic headdress for being preyed on by men and likened them to abandoned “meat” that attracts voracious animals.
“In the religious address on adultery to about 500 worshippers in Sydney last month, Sheik Hilali said: “If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it … whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?
“The uncovered meat is the problem.”
The sheik then said: “If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred.””
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/oct/26/australia.marktran
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-412697/Outrage-Muslim-cleric-likens-women-uncovered-meat.html
What is Germany going to learn from this?
sidney penny says
Fix the head not the ad.
Champ says
“Filed Under: dhimmitude”
Indeed!
And dhimmitude is a *dangerous* place to be in.
Hope says
People of Germany, do not go quietly into islamization! Do not allow your leaders to do this to you. Organize and protest!!
dumbledoresarmy says
They are *trying*.
Have you forgotten the PEGIDA movement? (It has given rise to *other* PEGIDA groups elsewhere in Europe – e.g. PEGIDA UK, who are finding their way, slowly but – I hope – surely).
And Heidi Mund (look her up).
And Thilo Sarrazin.
There *are* those who are mobilising. They don’t get much publicity (or if they do, they are attacked as ‘right wing’).
But they *are* there!
There is even a new political party, “Alternative for Germany” (Alternativ fur Deutschland) that is gathering strength. Look them up.
And even in this depressing newspaper report we can see that not everybody is meekly rolling over.
I quote – “The plan has been called political correctness gone mad by its critics, who said it was the first step towards a “nanny state””..
“Free Democratic Party (FPD) leader Christian Lindner said: “His plans to ban nudity and sexual advertising are completely narrow-minded.
“To demand the veiling of women or taming of men, is something known among radical Islamic religious leaders, but not from the German minister of justice.”.”
Make a note of that name: Christian Lindner. Good on him!
German jihadwatchers here posting or lurking – *write to him*. Now. Support him. Get behind him and PUSH.
DFD says
To dumbledoresarmy,
Good post. For your info, the AfD will decide on the 30th of April if (Anti) Islam will be part of the manifesto and primary election campaign for 2017.
That is to say information about then teachings of Islam, Quran, Sharia etc., and calling Imams to public discussions, in the election campaign, onto the podium, to answer the questions – in the assigned TV time frame.
Interesting questions: Will Merkel last that long? What will the summer 2016 bring? I think summer in 2017 the civil wars will be raging, sub-question: localized or fully? Germany, practically certain, Sweden probably too.
Dom1 says
If they didn’t get rid of Adolph Hitler, I don’t fancy the chances of them getting rid of this insidious threat.
The Germans have automaton tendencies!. That makes them good soldiers, factory workers, team players and communists. They will obey any established leader no matter how bad he or she is and have never thrown one out. Even the UK have booted out Thatcher and Blair and Cameron is getting close these days especially if the British reject the EC and the dictatorship of Merkel. Winston Churchill was kicked out in the immediate post war election after saving them from the NAZIs. Peace time leaders and wartime leaders require different attributes.One of the great things about properly structured democracy is that you have the ability to kick out leaders when they have lost touch with reality(usually after two terms) during their term of office not necessarily waiting for the next election. Why didn’t Merkel appease the Christians in Germany many of whom have a problem with the display in public of attractively dressed female persons. I am offended by the display of Merkel in public. I think she should wear the full burka with a gag over her mouth Ha Ha !!!
When it comes to picking leaders??? Well lets just say the Germans have created massive problems for the World four times in the last 100 years WW1 WW2 and nearly WW3 over Berlin and now the facilitation of Islamisation in Europe
Another point I would like to make is if Germany has a labour shortage why didn’t Merkel encourage the Spanish to come. Spain has massive unemployment 40% among under 25s I hear and is part of the EU.
Alternatively give financial incentives to young Germans to have bigger families.
This is not Quantum Chemistry Merkel it is common sense!!!!
DFD says
Dom1 says: “…Another point I would like to make is if Germany has a labour shortage why didn’t Merkel encourage the Spanish to come. Spain has massive unemployment 40% among under 25s I hear and is part of the EU. Alternatively give financial incentives to young Germans to have bigger families.”
To that I agree, same with Filipinos, etc.
However, what you say prior to that, doesn’t even justify a comment. Get rid of these ww2 VHS cassettes, and please learn.
Mockingjay says
I’ve said it before: I think muslims have a special liking for Germany – because the nazis did such a great job getting rid of most of Europe’s Jews – and the islamization there also seems to be progressing “nicely”, which must be giving them the impression that Germany is still their biggest ally in Europe.
Also – doesn’t anyone wonder why there hasn’t been a single big Jihad attack in Germany (yet) when other European countries with large muslim populations have all had their share of it – Spain, France, Britain, Belgium ? I find this very telling. I think muslims really do have a soft spot for Germany. And the feeling seems to be mutual.
Oh and btw – hasn’t anyone here at JW heard about the big “satire-riot” that’s going on in Germany at the moment? A German comedian insulted turkish sultan Erdogan on German national tv and Erdogan demanded that Merkel will prosecute him for it. Merkel has yet to decide whether she’ll comply – no I’m not kidding.
Meanwhile, the perpetrator comedian, Jan Boehmermann, had to go in hiding in his own damn country because he has been seriously threatened by turks living in Germany.
Imagine that: He didn’t draw Muhammad, he didn’t say anything against the religion of peace – he just mocked the dictator of a muslim country. For that he and his family might never be able to live in security in his own homeland anymore for the rest of his life.
And Germany just lets it all happen.
Dude says
I didn’t know that about the comedian. That’s outrageous!!!
Mockingjay says
Yeah I expected a lot of people here wouldn’t know about it. I was waiting for an item about it on JW actually, but I guess the US media isn’t reporting on it.
Peggy says
Nothing about it in Australian media either.
I’ll try to spread the news.
DFD says
He wrote a poem in which he called Erdogan a goatf..ker.
It was read out on TV, where it’s discussed in the German media, he has the full support of the Germans, very, very few exceptions.
gravenimage says
Mockingjay wrote:
I’ve said it before: I think muslims have a special liking for Germany – because the nazis did such a great job getting rid of most of Europe’s Jews…
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Muslims love Hitler, but I think the main reason so many Mohammedans have been heading for Germany today is just because she is a wealthy nation and hence a great target.
But the German authorities have been rolling over for Islam, as here.
More:
A German comedian insulted turkish sultan Erdogan on German national tv and Erdogan demanded that Merkel will prosecute him for it. Merkel has yet to decide whether she’ll comply – no I’m not kidding.
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Here’s this insane story:
“German comedian could face jail for insulting Erdogan”
http://www.thelocal.de/20160406/german-comedian-could-face-jail-for-insulting-erdogan
How can if *possibly* be illegal to insult a head of state in Germany, which is supposed to be a free country?
Especially given that heads of state include not only creeps like Erdogan, but also ones like Kim Jong Un, King Salman of Saudi Arabia, the Ayatollah Khamenei, and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi?
Hell, here in America, we insult and lampoon our own head of state on a regular basis, regardless of party affiliation. And that’s the way it should be.
DFD says
Gravenimage says: “…Hell, here in America, we insult and lampoon our own head of state on a regular basis, regardless of party affiliation. And that’s the way it should be.”
Same in Germany, the cartoons and strips about Merkel… I may publish a few links soon, here or another thread. They are quite funny, English subtitles.
But a Muslim head of state…. Tells the tale how far down the road we are.
Lexa456 says
Here it is. Breaking News. Merkel keeps on selling herself and Germany to Erdogan. Boehmerman is put on trial. Merkel will abolish the legal articles that protects journalists in Boehmerman’s situation. This was just announced at a meeting. I am shocked.
Lexa456 says
*edit* to my previous post regarding the paragraph:
on the core it says:
Whoever insults a foreign head of state who is staying in an official capacity within the country, or a certified manager of a foreign diplomatic Mission in the Federal territory, shall be punished with imprisonment of up to three years or a fine, in the case of defamatory libel with imprisonment from three months up to five years.
Probably Merkel wants to avoid more lawsuits in the future by removing this article. I had misunderstood, first. Sorry for the previous statement regarding the protection of Journalists. Nevertheless Boehmerman should not be taken to court.
DFD says
To Mockingjay
Your post doesn’t make any sense. You constantly contradict yourself. The German security services have so far, in the first 3.5 months of 2016, foiled 26 terror plots and arrested most of the perpetrators, few escaped, see: FAZ, PI (Politically Incorrect), Der Spiegel, Bild Zeitung, etc. I wish they American, British, French etc. services were at least a fraction as effective.
You say: “…I find this very telling. I think muslims really do have a soft spot for Germany. And the feeling seems to be mutual…” Total bull, putile hatred.
It’s Germany where the civil wars will start. The Muslims are just a minor issue, useful idiots, for both, the ultra left (Anatchists) calling itself ‘AntiFa’ and the middle to the ultra right. The war, since Weimar, between left and right isn’t far from over.
You know nothing!
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Your comment is an utter, ignorant raging, attempt to spew anti German hatred. Pathetic. You say: “…that Germany is still their biggest ally in Europe.”
Dear boy, LEARN, or at least try to. The biggest allies of the Muslims in Europe were, and are, the Brits, over 200 years of cooperation with Muslims in their Empire, and the same holds true for the French. Much to the detriment of the Christians, being sold out to the Muslims, kept in dhimmitude in those Empires, instead of liberation. In short, treason to their own culture and natural allies. Of course, for the last 100 years, or so, that role has been gradually taken over by the US, began with ARAMCO. The US? For every 500 Muslims given ‘asylum’, 1 (ONE!) Christian – the other Christians were, and are, being send back to the slaughter. Germany accepts Christian refugees, sent back? Not one! Though, Merkel and her AntiFa hordes tried.
LEARN! Or at least, try to.
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Of course, for hate mongers learning is difficult, if not impossible. I understand.
DFD says
Typo, correction:
(Anatchists) = (Anarchists)
Mockingjay says
I am far removed from being anti-Germany, DFD. I’m merely describing events that are happening in Germany and that anyone can observe. Of course I am aware that not every German supports what is going on in their country, that there are in fact MANY who don’t, but still there seem to be way too many who do – and they certainly seem to be the decision-makers.
As for the German security services – maybe you are right and they are simply more effective at foiling terror plots than the security services in other states. That might well be, but I really have no way of knowing whether that is true or not. Do you?
Besides – when I asked if muslims view Germany as an ally, I meant the way MUSLIMS view Germany, not the way I view Germany. At the same time I think that Germany is making bad decision after bad decision when it comes to muslim migrants and the “refugee crisis”. Just now, Merkel decided to go ahead and sacrifice Jan Boehmermann and thus free speech because she has created a situation where she hardly has any other choice than to be completely submissive to Erdogan’s wishes – if she isn’t, Erdogan will let Europe be flooded again with “refugees”.
She’s given him an enormous amount of power.
Erdogan, the man who stated: “Democracy is just the train I board to get me to my REAL goal.”
Now what goal would that be?
DFD says
Mockingjay says: “I am far removed from being anti-Germany, DFD. I’m merely describing events that are happening in Germany and that anyone can observe…”
Thank you for your reply.
They are observing the wrong ‘thing’, like many Germans do as well.
The situation in Germany is vastly more complex. There are 3 sides, the anarchists (School of Frankfurt, see also Daniel Cohn-Bendit, etc.) of which I suspect Merkel to be one, or at least extremely sympathetic. I wrote an expose about her which found very favorable comments on this and other websites. See here http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/03/after-brussels-jihad-massacre-people-seek-the-truth-about-islam-behind-the-media-myths/comment-page-1#comment-1403837 to learn more about her and her methods.
Against that, there’s the right wing, which by now incorporates the center. Since Merkel has practically moved the CDU (Christian Democratic Union) to the left of the SPD (Sozial Demokratische Partei Deutschland’s). That means the CDU is just right from the ‘Greens’. They aren’t ‘green’ however, they are outright anarchists, social Marxists. They barely camouflage that. Their shock troops are the AntiFa. A clever name meaning “Anti Fascists”, clever in so far as that that implies that whomever they oppose is by definition a Fascist. They call all their opponents Nazis.
The right wing now consists of ‘homeless’ centrists, plus very conservatives (like GOP-USA), ultra conservatives (like ‘Tea Party), these are represented by the AfD (Alternative fur Deutschland). These of course attract infiltrators from the neo Nazis, i.e., NPD. Which in itself is infiltrated by the BfV (Bundesamt fur Verfassungsschutz / secret constitution protection – part of the security/intelligence services). So here are the main players, the scene. Large chunks of the media have been captured or undermined by the anarchos, or are at least sympathetic. As is the case everywhere else in Europe and the US, school of Frankfurt again. Learn about this, it’ll explain a lot. Here’s a link to begin: http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/921_frankfurt.html The Schiller Institute is highly respectable. Once you understand these, you will understand a lot more about the weird politics of the US-Democrats too.
OK, essentially we are in a way back to Weimar, though, the Nazis aren’t a force to be reckoned with anymore, their role has been taken over by the center to center right. Nazism itself is practically dead in Germany – the Germans were the first victims of the Nazis. The first victims of any tyrant are his own people.
So where do the Muslims fit in? Useful idiots and perfect, absolutely trustworthy shock troops for the anarchists. Let me put it this way, if you were an anarchist (motto: From Chaos comes Order!) who would be more useful than Muslims? They thoroughly hate, nay loathe, the society you want to destroy. Perfect. From their point of view those morons, Muslims, actually believe they can take over. They are in for a shock. The anarchists make Stalin look like a squire boy. Any established laws and rules mean nothing to them, religion is utter bullocks. Sharia is a laugh, as far as they are concerned. Meaningless bullocks, like any other law. And adherents to such or other laws will be eliminated.
Funny thing is, the ultra right looks at the Muslims the same way. Truth is, the Muslims haven’t got a chance. All they have as an initial shock moment, arms and munitions caches near Mosques, but when the ammo’s out, show’s is over, and they are in for the slaughter. Question is, what comes then? Stakes are ultra, hyper high. Europe, N. Africa and the Middle East.
I am writing about this, and already had a lengthy discussion with another chap on another website, and there’s more to follow.
If you want to know more, let me know.
marsfeld says
Much despised and incompetent Heiko Maas allegedly acted on behalf of a neo-feminist group that is misusing the cologne events shamefully to push a much older group agenda of desexualizing advertisements. As somebody else correctly mentioned similar agendas on behalf of islamists and these types of feminists, both hostile and opposed to free, non-chaste pretty women, engaging in sharia-compliant shaming practices: It’s true, not a conspiracy theory in this case. The organization behind this is called Pinkstinks. It already promoted the Hijab as a sign of “modest” and de-sexualized expression of feminist values last year, at the same time downplaying the gender apartheid aspects of Islam as “prejudice”: https://pinkstinks.de/hijabees-welcome/
gravenimage says
*Ugh*–thanks for posting that, marsfeld.
The author, insanely, compares the Hijab *favorably* with the idea that Western women think they should wear cocktail dresses to cocktail parties.
Not only, of course, do many women wear something different to cocktail parties–such as long dresses or dressy pantsuits–but most women can eschew attendance entirely if they want to without it much impacting their lives.
Compare this with being forced to wear Hijab–or the Chador, or the Burqa–or not being allowed to leave the house at all under Islam.
And idiots like these are not the only “feminists” to embrace the horror of Muslim veiling. Here’s the witless Naomi Wolfe:
“Behind the veil lives a thriving Muslim sexuality”
http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/behind-the-veil-lives-a-thriving-muslim-sexuality/2008/08/29/1219516734637.html
“Indeed, many Muslim women I spoke with did not feel at all subjugated by the chador or the headscarf. On the contrary, they felt liberated from what they experienced as the intrusive, commodifying, basely sexualising Western gaze…
“I experienced it myself. I put on a shalwar kameez and a headscarf in Morocco for a trip to the bazaar. Yes, some of the warmth I encountered was probably from the novelty of seeing a Westerner so clothed; but, as I moved about the market – the curve of my breasts covered, the shape of my legs obscured, my long hair not flying about me – I felt a novel sense of calm and serenity. I felt, yes, in certain ways, free.”
Given the rape culture in Muslim countries, I doubt it is the “Western gaze” these women fear.
And if the moronic Naomi Wolfe feels “free” in Purdah, then she (almost) deserves to experience the true range of Muslim savagery toward women.
DFD says
To marsfeld
Is that your name or your handle? I suspect and hope the latter. Very interesting that you chosen that as a username or handle – I’m sure you know what it means and where it comes from.
What do you think how the situation in Germany will develop? AntiFa, etc.
Here’s a link which may interest you
https://youtu.be/DTUOboeeQlI
marsfeld says
It’s the handle, of course ;). Regarding Antifa and the video, I guess my last sympathies I had for some motivations of them because of the legitimate cause of fighting true Neo-Nazis (events of Solingen and Hoyerswerda made me somewhat left-leaning in the 90ies), waned to zero within the last years. I’m very appalled by the more or less complete decline of german liberals and lefties into what is now called “regressive leftism”, i.e. not fighting for the liberal status of their society and individual rights, but allying with oppressive and totalitarian forces like Islam just for the sake of allying with anyone opposed to western culture. They just seem to be interested in ridiculous ideological dogmatism, most of them lost any moral or humanist implications they might have had (partially) at some time. I read comments of those retards gleeing happily about western women getting raped by refugees and the like. Once, there was some merit in opposing the last remains of old-school german racism and “jingoistic” nationalism until the 80ies and early 90ies, even considering their more tasteless “punk rock” style provocations. By now, with paradigm shift of values more or less completed, they lost their cause and their sanity. Now a “nazi” is anyone who does not think like them in any area of life, politics and culture. You know, in their heart they NEED nazis for the sake of their very existence, in fact, there’s even a hidden unconscious love for them, as their whole legitimacy depends on their psychotic distorted view that western society as a whole is just a continuation of the Hitler state and they themselves can adopt this imaginative role as “hero” warriors in a manichaean fight against evil, just to forget about themselves being the spoilt annoying brats they actually are. And in the wake of this psychotic dream, they increasingly regress into fascism themselves. Seems more like a mental illness but a political movement by now. Even their level of discourse has declined from pseudo-intellectual socialist rhetorics to complete zero-level argumentation and SJW shaming tactics crap. They should be treated by the state, media and public opinion like the ridiculous and dangerous spoilt first world brats they are, a group lacking any political credibility. Right now, too many still traditionally believe that despite their obscenities they might somehow have a point somewhere, so actions against them are not taken to the degree they should. I think what could be very helpful is exposing their authoritarian, anti-liberal, anti-freedom and misogynist statements more clearly to the public. By now, that isn’t done to the extent one should wish.
Jerry says
This self-shaming before islam disgusts me. We have nothing to be ashamed about with our love and appreciation for the human body. It is the sexually repressed muslims that are doing all the raping of kids and women–it’s epidemic in Europe, what the f*ck does THAT tell you?
Practically everything we do offends muslims. What’s next? wear burkas and beat our wives? How stupid do they think we are, like these same muslims aren’t doing XXX porn on the internet every chance they get. I think we can safely assume that a man that can’t control his urge to sexually assault while in public probably doesn’t have the moral wherewithal to resist the temptation of X-rated material. So I assure you, no amount of modesty will ever temper the muslim male: if it’s not bikinis it will be tight pants, and if not tight pants then short skirts, and if not skirts then exposed hair, or a pretty face and eyes, or perfume…or exposed ankles…or a sexy voice in a burka…because the kind of lust they have is like a greed that is never satisfied. It’s not our lifestyle that provokes them to rape. It’s their own cultural and religious training in regard to women, they are second class citizens in the islamic world.
I see a proverbial slippery slope on the horizon. One pathetic compromise will lead to another. And before long we’ll all be talking about the good old days, before muslims came to town and destroyed our peace and robbed our freedoms.
gravenimage says
Yes.
Westman says
Does anyone remember that Bin Laden had porno tapes? It seems that Muslim men are never instructed to have self control – unlike Western men – and if they have a “sexual emergency”, it’s some woman’s fault.
That they are spiritually offended is a major lie. They are angry because, without sufficient covering on Germany’s women, they see what is out of their reach and would forceably take it if they had control of the nation. They are frustrated, not offended.
Imagine what would happen to one of these Muslim men if he insulted a woman on the beach in Tel Aviv for wearing her swimming suit? It seems that only a society constantly threatened by Islam has the bravery to say, “We will not be intimidated!”
Man up, Germany! Oh, and get rid of that delusional Cologne Mayor Reker.
Jerry says
“…frustrated not offended.”
You said it perfectly.
Carolyne says
You won’t be allowed to talk about “The good old days.”
Jerry says
I stand corrected. Maybe we can get away with fond memories, if we don’t think too loud.
gravenimage says
Germany bans sexy women in ads after Cologne Muslim sex assaults
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Oh, great. Muslims attack us with the aim of imposing Shari’ah norms on us; we respond by imposing Shari’ah norms.
Guess that means they’ll stop doing what works, huh? sarc/off
More:
GERMANY has announced plans to ban images of scantily-clad women in adverts in response to the sexual assaults in Cologne on New Year’s Eve.
German Justice Minister Heiko Maas said the move to ban ads which “reduce women or men to sexual objects” is an attempt to create a “modern gender image”.
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What is “modern” about adopting the norms of Dark Ages Arabia?
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The proposal, if introduced later this year, would see courts decide on what qualifies as sexist.
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Uh huh–as though those molesting and raping women in the streets were concerned about “sexism”.
The rot about “modern gender image” and supposed concerns over what is “sexist” is just a fig leaf–Burqa?–covering what this *really* is–appeasement of savagery.
Angemon says
gravenimage posted:
“What is “modern” about adopting the norms of Dark Ages Arabia?”
Nothing. The idea that banning ads with pretty women is being “modern” or “inclusive” or “a step in the right direction” is a staple of third wave “feminists” (a.k.a., shrieking, man-hating harpies) everywhere, as seen, for example, in the UK with the “No More Page 3” campaign. By the looks of it, it just happened that their proposal synced with the Cologne attacks. Just another example of third-wave “feminists” synergizing and overlapping with islamic supremacists.
gravenimage says
Agreed. These useful idiots have *no idea* who they are–pun intended–getting into bed with here.
Custos Custodum says
Good point.
We now have hordes of sexually frustrated Muslim men, and hordes of sexually frustrated harpies screeching totalitarian slogans.
Perhaps there is some synergy waiting to be released by bringing these forces together.
gravenimage says
No, Custos. I am no fan of a lot of screechy “feminism”, but implying they need to be raped by ravening Muslims is not something I would *ever* want to see.
Infidela says
It’s not the sexy ads that’s the problem. It’s the muslim men who are the problem. What’s wrong with sexy ads? What’s wrong with being sexy?
gravenimage says
Nothing. I don’t feel intimidated by sexy ads–Muslim rapists are a different matter, though…
Carolyne says
The only thing I think about ads with women in bikinis is jealousy. I wish I looked like that, so I could wear a bikini like that.
Joanne says
I have not seen examples of what kind of so-called “sexy” ads are being banned, but it is possible that it’s the same kind of stuff that would probably have been banned in public places when Germany was a majority practicing Christian nation. Of course women should not be in burqas, but I just can’t feel a lot of outrage about women being encouraged to respect themselves and dress appropriately. If there is any silver lining to more Muslims in Europe or North America, it’s a return to ideas about modesty.
Jerry says
We don’t need muslims to introduce us to the idea of “modesty” or to teach women how to “respect themselves.” We have our own standards of behavior and cultural norms, islam’s poor treatment of women is no example for us to follow. Of course we aren’t perfect, and new and good ideas are welcome. But under no circumstance should we feel obligated to redefine what it means to be modest to appease muslim rapists or islam’s misogynist hatred of women.
In my opinion, there’s no “silver lining” that could ever justify more muslims in Europe. It will mean the destruction of our freedoms, our culture, and an increase in human rights violations under sharia. The only silver lining I can think of is I won’t be there when it happens.
mortimer says
Islamic ‘community standards’ are enshrined in an authoritarian tenth century code that doesn’t change.
Sharia law is a boa constrictor.
Jerry says
You said it, bro.
Westman says
I understand how you feel, but modesty is an inconsistency in Islam.
A Muslim’s female slaves are not required to be dressed from the waist up. Why a Muslim slave owner would display his slave certainly has little to do with modesty and shows quite clearly that the so-called widely-varying Muslim dress code for wives is about keeping property concealed.
Now Muslims in Germany are insisting that Infidel women, who have less status than a slave in Islam, be covered up? It appears not about modesty, but rather, frustration that what they see is out of reach combined with lack of self control.
Joanne says
Thanks for your response. I did not know that about Muslim slaves. I think most people in the west would not know that, so I would still maintain that Islam seems to encourage modesty. (I get that it also seems to encourage misogyny, which many do not seem to see or agree with.) I think ironically though that Islam’s perceived call for modesty is actually what largely attracts its female converts.
While again I don’t welcome Islam anywhere, western men being outraged that women don’t “get” to dress in trashy, overly revealing ways is unlikely to attract women to your ideas about Islam.
The Christian democratic politician or whatever he was, saying that no nudity in advertising is a result of “narrow-mindedness,” for example. I wonder if he has encouraged his own daughter to be naked in public? If that is the position of western men, I’m not sure what to say. The culture is done for whether Islam invades or not. I wonder if that attitude has something to do with the fact that European women don’t reproduce. I think it does, actually.
Joanne says
“to your ideas about Islam.”
Sorry, that “your” was not directed at you personally. Just generally speaking. Thanks.
marsfeld says
Maybe it’s because I’m not much of a “social conservative”, but I think there are very different ideas out there what self-respect should be all about. It’s a specific perspective of more religious or conservative people that women who show of sexually somehow “lose their worth”, shaming those who make nudies for the playboy or else as having no self-respect. I don’t really see the scientifical argument for this: In this special case, social constructivism is actually right about something for once. What is “worthy”, “respectful” actually lies in the eye of the beholder. But there are very legitimate other perspectives that have a very different view on all of this. I’m okay with people disliking “immodest” or more openly sexually connoted behaviour for some reason, as I’m all about free speech and free thought, but I’m not ok with bowing down to groups and people shaping ALL society in favour of this certain perspective.
The psychology behind the feminists and many others who are secretly applauding this stealth-sharia agenda seems to be – at its heart – about socialist control and pandering to feminine jealousy urges. That may very well be what is really behind those grudges. I think in modern society we shouldn’t forget about those other women’s right to act non-chaste, if existing laws are not violated and nobody gets hurt by this.
And Islam actually works its mind control very well in favour of these femininist/feminine grudges, that’s why many muzz women actually comply to other brutal non-equality aspects of their vile ideology. See all these other worthless hotties out there wihout hijab, maybe attracting the mind and the fantasies of your hubby? Well, Allah says there are all worthless sluts, just ready to face the wrath of god by getting naturally raped by the muslim men. You don’t have to be jealous, they are shameless, they deserve all that’s coming to them.
So Islam strengthens its position by pandering to the more sinister human urges again in this case, this time actually by pandering to feminine jealousy against other women. And it’s really a shame that it has found its ally in those third wave feminists that try to appease the tiger by feeding and accomodating to its hunger.
Joanne says
I don’t agree with shaming, but I guess I have to wonder about your defensiveness of women being for example in playboy. Would you encourage your own daughter to get naked for the world to see? I’m guessing/hoping the answer would be no, so why would you defend it at all?
There must be a happy medium between the burqa and a politician claiming that banning nude advertising is a result of “narrow-mindedness.”
I think honestly western cultures have lost a sense of boundaries. And that that is what in part has caused the demographic downward spiral that we find ourselves in. It makes sense that if women see their culture being turned into an adult playground, that they aren’t overly eager to bring lots of children into the world. There is more to it, of course, but I do think this is a factor in women’s lack of desire to reproduce. This would be true whether Islam is invading or not, but the issue becomes more urgent because of the invasion.
Angemon says
Joanne posted:
“I don’t agree with shaming, but I guess I have to wonder about your defensiveness of women being for example in playboy. Would you encourage your own daughter to get naked for the world to see? I’m guessing/hoping the answer would be no, so why would you defend it at all? ”
Joanne, your suggestion borders misogyny. Are you telling that women shouldn’t be allowed to have the choice of wanting to appear in Playboy (which, BTW, are no longer doing nudes)? Shouldn’t it be up to individual women to make their own decisions? Their body, their choice?
Custos Custodum says
Let’s face it – some feminists would look much better in a burka. Having everyone else in a burka cuts down on competition.
Carolyne says
Oh God, Jeanne. Women should be able to walk down the street starkers if she should wish and not be molested. No one, man, woman, dog or Muslim has the right to touch another person without their permission. Modesty? Its in the eye of the beholder, as are dirty thoughts of violence.
Joanne says
You ascribe a lot to me that I don’t believe and never said. I can see from some of your other posts here that you and I have very different sensibilities. I think that the influence of people like yourself on our culture is really corrosive and I have little interest in your misguided reprimands.
mortimer says
German Justice Minister Heiko Maas is surrendering to Islam. He is a dhimmi.
Custos Custodum says
No, politicians like Maas are not “surrendering” to Islam in the sense of giving in to a superior power. It is conceivable that they are not even receiving massive bribes.
“Cultural Marxists” throughout the West WANT to destroy the fabric of society and throw off the shackles of constitutional restraints and “bourgeois” society. Muslim immigrants are a useful means to this end.
somehistory says
Not that long ago, laws in the U.S. did not protect women from accusations of *asking for it* after being raped or assaulted…if the woman went out alone at night, walked in a *bad* neighborhood or dressed in short shorts, mini-skirts, etc.
Much debate and argument and many trials for rape where the woman was questioned harshly about her private life, her boyfriends, how many, how many husbands, etc. before the laws were changed to give added protection to the women and girls of the country.
Finally, people began to see that a woman or girl did not deserve what happened no matter where she walked or what she wore.
Just today, an episode of “Mama’s Family” focused on Naomi getting obscene calls and the family blaming her instead of the pervert making the calls. They blamed her walk, her dress and the fact that she was friendly.
Germany is doing the same thing. Blaming the women for what happened to them. They are taking a giant step back in time to accommodate moslim perverts. Instead of making sure the moslims that they have allowed into the country obey the laws, they are putting the responsibility for the crimes on the women of the country.
The next step will be to ban the clothing that is being banned in the advertisements. If they can’t wear them in the ads, they can’t be worn on the streets.
Beast from satan, wild and evil and devouring anyone and everyone it can.
(Revelation 13)
Jon says
Merkel’s made herself some serious enemies among her own people, just to win the friendship of those who are laughing at her. Once an old STASI members always one. You can take the girl out of STASI but you can’t take STASI out of the girl!
Richard says
So, during the transition era – the contemporary legal system in Jeremy would become a sort of Customary Law for natives (paid for), running in tandem with Sharia ? The modern courts would also get plenty of experience applying and pronouncing Sharia interpretations of what is ‘sexy’ ?
Loer Wrath says
Simple solution to all this… If muslims find this aspect of German culture so distasteful but wish to remain in order to take advantage of all the free stuff,,, let them submit to being blinded… Some guy named Mat once said, ” If thine eye offend the, then pluck it out “:… Yes it’s a bit out of context but you get the idea…
Baucent says
This sort of political meddling is the slippery slope which could change European freedoms forever. At first glance removing pictures of scantily clad women in advertising may appear a good thing. But from there it’s only a short step to regulating woman’s clothing on the streets, at the swimming pool and on the beach. What about those paintings in the Art gallery perhaps they should be removed? Italy covered up Michelangelo’s statues when the Iranian president visited. If “Western” values and culture are offensive or provocative to muslims, perhaps they would be more comfortable living somewhere else.
Jon says
‘….perhaps they would be more comfortable living somewhere else.’
The rest of us would certainly be glad if they lived somewhere else.
Carolyne says
I often see ads which seem to have gone too far, particularly in magazines like Vanity Fair, to which I subscribe. They do not offend me as no right to censor ads or magazines so long as no one is being physically harmed which, of course, an ad couldn’t do. My solution is to just not look at them and turn the page to somet5hing I find interesting. I am one person and this one person does not have the right to censor the world. Ridiculous. And certainly, were I a guest in a country other than my, I have absolutely no right to try to change their culture.
In the past I have gone to London once or twice each year, because I love the history and what used to be the culture. After seeing the invasion of the West End, I no longer go to England. I cannot abide the burqas and veils which have appeared everywhere, even on clerks in grocery stores. If the English wish their culture to change to Muslim, they can do so. I will not participate in the destruction of the land of the Magna Carta and Western civilization.
Carolyne says
I’m having trouble with my keyboard and some words have just disappeared from my above post. Sorry.
Angemon says
You wouldn’t be compiling code in the background, would you? That happens to me when I’m running CPU-intensive tasks.
Stipe says
This is proof of what I have been saying for some time on Jihad Watch, that the secular countries of the world (non Islamic in general) have an abortion culture that leads to the death of plus 4o million babies a year. If those countries do not wish to change their culture then others will come and change it for them.
Joanne says
I agree. If European men are outraged that women no longer “get” to be naked in public, or think that banning nudity in public is a result of “narrow mindedness,” then Europe is done for, whether Muslims invade or not. I am not an evangelical, but the video below made me hopeful. It also is more evidence that eventually, the war in Europe will be Muslims vs a vibrant Christianity, not Muslims vs secularists. There is just too little in a secular state that is worth dying for. And I would not wait for a “man” like Christian whatever-his-name-is to defend anyone.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dT9S1ZW-2f8
Jon says
There have been several reports of school principals in Germany telling girls not to wear short skirts or revealing clothes in areas where there are Muslim male migrants housed. In Sweden many blonde women are dying their hair black to avoid the attentions of Muslim males who obsess over blondes.
Once we start down that road of constantly adjusting our norms to fit some medieval standard of decency and correctness, then we’ve lost the plot entirely.
Joanne says
Hi, Jon:
The examples you give are of course troubling and ideally there would be no invasion happening, so none of this would be an issue. I do not think anyone would argue that women having to dye their hair in order to avoid unwanted attention is okay (although I have to say I had not heard that). As far as what is “medieval,” though, I guess that is subjective. To go back to the topic of the article, I think it could be argued that using/making money off of women’s nakedness or near-nakedness is not exactly enlightened. I find actually that secularism is regressive and secularists tend to take away the dignity of the individual.
But either way, whether you agree with my thoughts on secularism or not, there is no denying that Germany and most of white, formerly Christian, Europe is dying a self-inflicted demographic death. (That would be true, Muslim invasion or not.) My point to stipe was simply that if Christian Lindner epitomizes German or European men, it is no mystery to me why women there do not care to reproduce.
Homer says
This is not “the first step towards a ‘nanny state'”, as the critics say, but the first step (or the second, or third step already) towards a Sharia state, which is far, far worse than even the ‘nanniest’ of nanny states. Every day I experience so much willful blindness and so much voluntary submission to Islam among our elites over here in Europe that I hardly have any hope left for the future. When will the non-Muslim peoples of Europe, the US, and the rest of the world stop the ruining of our societies and cultures? I greatly admire the formidable courage of people like Robert Spencer or Geert Wilders in this epic task. I myself try to also do my tiny part by regularly writing to journalists, editors, politicians, and academics, pointing out why they are wrong in letting Islam of the hook or even defending it. But mostly my efforts are to no avail or are sometimes even used against me in my personal and professional life. I fear that in the end it will all be too little too late. What can we do more? What should we do?
Aton says
Not a Nanny State, but a Dhimmi State
stevo-k says
cover the adverts up all you want you dumb f*^ks, the ideology of islam stays the same and so do the rapes!
Marty says
This suggests two possibilities.
1. The Germans are now a bunch of lefty, pacifist, cowards who have lost the urge to defend
a culture that has often been brilliant, if under appreciated.
2. Islam, Hitler’s favourite religion, is now so powerful, and so welcomed by the governing classes,
that German quasi nazism is gaining control,under a cloak of muticulturalism & “sensitivity”.
Mark says
“F**K” Them F**K islamic sickness. It’s time to do as they do Delete messages, Act as if you never got it and do as your heart tells you not the NWO scumbags
Carolyne says
During Hitler’s rise to power, and when it became common knowledge to Germans that Jews and gypsies were being rounded up, did any German protest? I realize there was no medium such as the internet or TV to inform the general public, but did the Germans discuss what was happening and did they object? Or is there something in the German character which compels them to follow their government no matter how destructive of their society?
I sit here in the US and I wonder at what the German public is allowing to happen to their country. Angela Merkel and her ilk have lost their senses, just as the Nazis did, but this time have turned against their own people in order to force upon them a foreign culture and law which is inhumane and corrupt.
Is Saudi Arabia money so important to them that they betray their own people? It certainly appears so.
Walter Sieruk says
The authorities of Germany by the banning by of sexy ads in the false hope of not inciting Muslims to engage riots and other forms of violence are actually showing the spirit of appeasement. This the Muslims will view and take as the spirit o weakness. As weakness of Westerners and weakness of the West.. Such appeasement will not stop Muslim violence. For the follower of Islam will only find thing else to become violence about. For the old saying must be true, which is that “Evil is always looking for an excuse.”
Bill says
Merkel is one piece of work. She claims that she wants to repeal the criminal code provision that makes it a crime in Germany to insult a head of state. I agree with her on that. It is a code provision offensive to free speech. So while Merkel is aware and concerned enough to want the repeal of this draconian law, she announced that she is allowing the prosecution of the comedian under it. You can make what you will of that sleight of hand. To me, she just conceded to Erdogan. Disgraceful.
sham says
Why are Christians so notorious in sinning throughout the world? What is the real secret behind it?
As the latest devastating and quite embarrassing reality check study about premarital sex in the United States of America have revealed, 95% of all Americans had premarital sex! Now of course, one must take into consideration that out of the 250 million Americans, there are around 12 to 15 million Muslims, which puts them around the 5% percentile. This means that almost 100% of the Jews and Christians in the US had sex before marriage!
So why is that? What is it about Christians that makes them so noticeably attracted to pornography, sex, sodomy, homosexuality, lust, drugs, alcohol (thousands die from fatal “drinking and driving” accidents every year), bikinis where 99% of the woman’s nakedness is fully exposed, inappropriate clothes, immoral TV and media (their white and black-race music is all about love and sex), violence, gangs, thugs and so on? Why is it that where ever there are Christian dominated societies, these evil things are always at their PRIME?
I’ve debated Christians long and hard on this subject before, and even demonstrated to them that their bible sings praises and glories about women’s vaginas and breasts tasting like “wine”, hence it is a book that promotes pornography, but they still insist that Christianity does not promote these things and that it is man that always falls short from the Glory and Will of GOD Almighty. But non-Christians throughout history and throughout the world, including pagans, all combined aren’t even close to the Christians when it comes to these evil things!! And in Islam, we don’t really fall that short from the Glory and Will of GOD Almighty. A Muslim who lives in an Islamic atmosphere is completely ignorant about these things!
The Reason!
After long and hard discussions with Christians, and after giving much thought into this subject, I think I have finally reached the real and main reason as to why these polytheist trinitarian pagans and infidels are so big and attracted and dying for doing the evil things that I mentioned above. You see, in the past my main argument was simply this:
1- The Bible contains ample pornography in it.
2- The Bible contains ample mixed signals and confusing messages about morality, in it, that the Christian reader can not draw the lines from them about what is sin and what is not, especially when it comes to things that are socially and widely accepted such as wearing bikinis, drinking alcohol, taking drugs, and going to bars and personally promoting evil and mischief in the society by supporting these things in wealth and in person (by physically being there).
3- The Bible contains countless contradictions and corruption both in text and conflicts with confirmed history, that no sane person would take it seriously especially when his sexual, alcoholic and/or drugs urge is at its highest peak! By the way, ironically, even the Bible’s own theologians say that the Bible contains ample “fairy tales,” “fictions,” “fables” and “contradictions”:
Latest Study: 1 in 4 Christian teen girls has an STD – More Christian profanity exposed world-wide!
When it comes to expertise in pornography, homosexuality, fornication, adultery, open lewdness where 99% of the nakedness is exposed through bikinis and other clothes, drugs, alcohol, violence, high divorce rates, children born out of wedlock (bastards), and the endless other immoralities, christians are the masters. The thing that is quite eye-catching in all of this, though, is that it is not only the christian adults who are the professional whores in their world, but amazingly, even their children are equal in statistics.
As we’ve seen in the recent study, 95% of Americans had premarital sex according to a new study! So not only the American christians are unquestionably so proud of fornication, cum-sucking and cum-licking so much that it is overwhelmingly accepted and practiced in their pornified culture, but as the latest study have also exposed, even their little children are experts in whoredom – so bad that their sexuality caused for millions upon millions of them to catch Sexually Transmitted Diseases (STDs), which also include AIDS. It of course goes without question that those among them who don’t have STDs are still not virgins as more than 95% of their entire society have had premarital sex.
Note: By the way, the remaining 5% are mixed between Muslims and other minorities. This means that almost 100% of all Christians in the USA are guilty of fornication.
Having said all of that, and having established the solid Truth about christianity being guilty of breeding humanity’s biggest numbers in profanity and immorality due to its confusions and absurdities that throw its followers off into the absolute darkness and make them top candidates for blasphemy and easy preys to giving in into even the smallest temptations, let us now look at what http://www.CNN.com has to say about the children of whoredom.
From http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/conditions/03/11/teen.std.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview:
Angemon says
sham posted:
“Now of course, one must take into consideration that out of the 250 million Americans, there are around 12 to 15 million Muslims, which puts them around the 5% percentile.”
Wrong on both accounts. There’s more Americans that that and there’s far less muslim in America than that. And if you can’t even get basic census right, I doubt the rest of your numbers are reliable.
“ This means that almost 100% of the Jews and Christians in the US had sex before marriage!”
Case in point, you’re not accounting for Agnostics, Atheists and other religions. Yeah, gonna call bulls*** and shenanigans on your copy/paste spam hack job:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/notorious_sinners.htm
gravenimage says
More spam from sham:
Why are Christians so notorious in sinning throughout the world? What is the real secret behind it?
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Where did sham crib this one from? Note the things that Muslims *don’t* consider sins–raping and murdering Infidels, “marrying” little girls, and “Honor Killing” disobedient wives and daughters.
More:
As the latest devastating and quite embarrassing reality check study about premarital sex in the United States of America have revealed, 95% of all Americans had premarital sex! Now of course, one must take into consideration that out of the 250 million Americans, there are around 12 to 15 million Muslims, which puts them around the 5% percentile. This means that almost 100% of the Jews and Christians in the US had sex before marriage!
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Where to start? There are, in fact, almost 100 million more Americans than sham notes, and even the most inflated figures for Muslims put them at no more than 7 million.
Not only are his figures for premarital sex ludicrously inflated, but note that while he considers this a great sin, he is fine with Muslim child marriage and taking of sex slaves–things that civilized Infidels consider much more troubling.
More:
So why is that? What is it about Christians that makes them so noticeably attracted to pornography, sex, sodomy, homosexuality, lust, drugs, alcohol (thousands die from fatal “drinking and driving” accidents every year), bikinis where 99% of the woman’s nakedness is fully exposed, inappropriate clothes, immoral TV and media (their white and black-race music is all about love and sex), violence, gangs, thugs and so on? Why is it that where ever there are Christian dominated societies, these evil things are always at their PRIME?
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Just ludicrous. The greatest consumers of pornography are *Muslims*. And it tends to be very ugly pornography at that: pedophilia, bestiality, and rape.
More:
I’ve debated Christians long and hard on this subject before…
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I doubt very much that the semi-literate sham has ever debated anyone. Where did he crib this from?
More:
and even demonstrated to them that their bible sings praises and glories about women’s vaginas and breasts tasting like “wine”, hence it is a book that promotes pornography…
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Grimly hilarious. The Qur’an is full of apologia for child rape and sex slavery, and Islamic “Paradise” is full of victims–both female and “pearly boys”–for dead Jihadists to abuse.
sham says
People often fail to distinguish between culture and religion, Two things that are completely different..
Everybody focuses to Muslim women worldwide as oppressed, more specifically the Muslim Women of Afghanistan.
The media shows us how oppressed the Muslim women are there and people start linking three words in their minds: ‘Islam,’ ‘women’ and ‘oppression.’ Therefore, they think that Islam commands oppressing women.
People often fail to distinguish between culture and religion, two things that are completely different. In fact, Islam condemns oppression of any kind whether it is towards a woman or in general.
Now, the Qur’an is the sacred book by which Muslims live. This book was revealed 14 centuries ago to a man named Muhammad who would later become the Prophet. Fourteen centuries have passed and this book has not been changed since, not one letter has been altered.
In surah number 33, entitled Al-Ahzab (Arabic for ‘The Clans’), on verse 59, it says: “O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw cloaks all over their bodies. That will be better as they shall be known (as free respectable women) and will not be annoyed. And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most-Merciful.” This verse shows that Islam makes wearing a Hijab necessary, Hijab is the word used for covering, not only the headscarves (as some people may think) but also wearing loose clothes that are not too bright.
Sometimes, people see covered Muslim women and they think oppression. This is wrong. A Muslim woman is not oppressed, but she is liberated. This is because she is no longer valued for something material such as her good looks or the shape of her body. She compels others to judge her for her intelligence, kindness, honesty and personality. Therefore, people judge her for who she actually is.
Women cover their hair to be modest. When they wear loose clothes, they are trying to be modest. In fact, nuns cover their hair out of modesty. Also, when we see frequent pictures of the Virgin Mary, she is covering her hair out of modesty. Therefore, Muslim women are doing the exact same thing as righteous Christian women.
The lives of the people who accepted the Qur’an changed drastically. It had a tremendous impact on so many people, especially women. It was the first time openly declared that the souls of men and women are equal. They would be bestowed the same obligation as well as the same rewards.
In addition to being equal to men, women get economic independence. The money they bring into marriage is theirs as well as the money they earn. A woman is allowed in Islam to choose their own husbands and in extreme cases, divorce. A woman has the right to be educated, contrary to what the contemporary world might think. The responsibility is of the person who is raising her.
Now picture this: Fourteen hundred years ago Islam allowed women to vote for a leader. It was recently, in 1925, Canadian women became allowed to vote. Worst, in Quebec, the law became final in 1940. Muslim women got rights before Western women got any.
Islam is a religion that holds women in high regard. Long ago, when baby boys were born, they brought great joy to the family. Girls brought less and occasionally none. Actually, girls were hated so much that they were sometimes buried alive. Islam was always against this female infanticide.
The two great roles a woman plays in life are a wife and a mother. The Prophet once said to a group of men: “The best among you are those who are the best to their wives.” This shows that Islam highly encourages the well treating of the wives. This should be shown love, respect and care.
A man came to the Prophet, sallallahualayhe wa sallam, and asked: “Who among my kinfolk is worthy of my good companionship?” The Prophet, sallallahu alavhe wa sallam, replied: “Your mother” three times before saying: “Your father.” This indicates the impact that a mother has in a person’s life. So women are highly honored in this great religion. Islam is a only religion that treats women fairly. Oppression is condemned. I hope all of you know and remember this.
TEN MORAL CODE FOR AN IDEAL SOCIETY :
One : Men and women are to dress decently. As sight constitutes
the prime motivation of the sexual impulse in man, women are not to
dress in such a fashion as to display their beauty.
Two : There should be nothing in society which is of a sexually
provocative nature. Indeed, in an Islamic society caberrets, dances,
beauty contests, ballets and the like are never permitted.
Three : The unrestricted mingling of the sexes, which ultimately
leads to adultery, must be prevented.
Four : The use of sex as a profession must be completely
banned. For in an Islamic society, prostitutes, call-girls, sex-bombs,
nude models and the like are an impossibility.
Five: Men and women (excepting for the husband or any relative
with whom marriage has been prohibited ) are not to travel together.
Six :Men and women are not to converse freely except in the
presence of another person.
Seven: Unless they have become mates through the institution
of marriage, men and women are not to gaze at each other with lewed
passion.
Eight : They are not to speak, or flirt, in a manner that evokes lust.
Nine : If a man comes with the offer of marriage, the guardians
of the woman must come forward to offer her in marriage to him if he
is seen to be of a suitable person.
Ten : In the case of the men who cannot find contentment in a
single woman, there is also the provisions – albeit, a conditional one –
to marry more than one woman.
Angemon says
sham posted:
“Everybody focuses to Muslim women worldwide as oppressed, more specifically the Muslim Women of Afghanistan.”
Because they are. Afghanis women are oppressed, just like women in Iran or Saudi Arabia.
“The media shows us how oppressed the Muslim women are there and people start linking three words in their minds: ‘Islam,’ ‘women’ and ‘oppression.’ Therefore, they think that Islam commands oppressing women.
People often fail to distinguish between culture and religion, two things that are completely different.”
Yes, I’m sure that islam, who, according to islamic apologists came to end injustices and oppression, is misinterpreted all over the world, starting in Saudi Arabia…
Also, copy/pasted from:
http://www.nicheoftruth.org/pages/muslim_women.htm
sham says
@Angemon
i am copy /pasting some useful Islamic law from different islamic site ,it was my replay to blind allegation against islam, u people think about the content of my post ,and don’t bother about it source………..
@Hugh
islam promote marriage with slave girl:
ISLAM ORDERED FREEING /MARRING /GIVE EDUCATION /KEEP GOOD MANNERS TO SLAVE GIRL
Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 52 :: Hadith 255
Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 55 :: Hadith 655
Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 46 :: Hadith 720,723
Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 62 :: Hadith 20, 98
Muslim :: Book 8 : Hadith 3327,3327
Muslim :: Book 1 : Hadith 285
Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash’ari:
Allah’s Apostle said, “If a person teaches his slave girl good manners properly, educates her properly, and then manumits and marries her, he will get a double reward. And if a man believes in Jesus and then believes in me, he will get a double reward. And if a slave fears his Lord (i.e. Allah) and obeys his masters, he too will get a double reward.”
Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 46 :: Hadith 721
Narrated Al-Ma’rur bin Suwaid:
‘Your slaves are your brethren upon whom Allah has given you authority. So, if one has one’s brethren under one’s control, one should feed them with the like of what one eats and clothe them with the like of what one wears. You should not overburden them with what they cannot bear, and if you do so, help them (in their hard job).”
Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 2 :: Hadith 29
Malik :: Book 54 : Hadith 54.16.40,54.16.41
Muslim :: Book 15 : Hadith 4092,4093, 4094,4095
Your slaves are your brothers and Allah has put them under your command. So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them.’ ”
Slave rape prohibited:
Malik :: Book 36 : Hadith 36.16.14
Malik :: Book 41 : Hadith 41.2.13
Slave prostitution prohibited:
24:33. and let those who find not the financial means for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah enriches them of His Bounty. And such of your slaves as seek a writing (of emancipation), give them such writing, if you know that they are good and trustworthy. And give them something yourselves out of the wealth of Allah which He has bestowed upon you. And force not your maids to prostitution, if they desire chastity, in order that you may make a gain in the (perishable) goods of this worldly life. But if anyone compels them (to prostitution), then after such compulsion, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to those women, i.e. He will forgive them because they have been forced to do this evil action unwillingly).
Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 63 :: Hadith 260
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet forbade taking the earnings of a slave girl by prostitution.
Sex with slave act of ignorance:
Muslim :: Book 40 : Hadith 6856
……Qatada said: Abu Abdullah, would this happen? Thereupon he said: Yes. By Allah, I found this in the days of ignorance that a person grazed the goat of a tribe and did not find anyone but their slave-girl (and he did not spare her) but committed adultery with her.
Slave illegal sexual intercourse /adultery prohibited:/blame prohibited even sinner /
Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 62 :: Hadith 148
Narrated ‘Aisha:
Allah’s Apostle said, “O followers of Muhammad! There is none, who has a greater sense of Ghira (self-respect) than Allah, so He has forbidden that His slave commits illegal sexual intercourse or His slave girl commits illegal sexual intercourse. O followers of Muhammad! If you but knew what I know, you would laugh less and weep more!”
Adultery with slave girl prohibited, stone death punishment:
Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4405
Narrated Nu’aym ibn Huzzal:
Yazid ibn Nu’aym ibn Huzzal, on his father’s authority said: Ma’iz ibn Malik was an orphan under the protection of my father. He had illegal sexual intercourse with a slave-girl belonging to a clan. My father said to him: Go to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and inform him of what you have done, for he may perhaps ask Allah for your forgiveness. His purpose in that was simply a hope that it might be a way of escape for him.
So he went to him and said: Apostle of Allah! I have committed fornication, so inflict on me the punishment ordained by Allah. He (the Prophet) turned away from him, so he came back and said: Apostle of Allah! I have committed fornication, so inflict on me the punishment ordained by Allah. He (again) turned away from him, so he came back and said: Apostle of Allah! I have committed fornication, so inflict on me the punishment ordained by Allah.
When he uttered it four times, the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: You have said it four times. With whom did you commit it?
He replied: With so and so. He asked: Did you lie down with her? He replied: Yes. He asked: Had your skin been in contact with hers? He replied. Yes. He asked: Did you have intercourse with her? He said: Yes. So he (the Prophet) gave orders that he should be stoned to death.
Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4443
Narrated An-Nu’man ibn Bashir:
Habib ibn Salim said: A man called AbdurRahman ibn Hunayn had intercourse with his wife’s slave-girl. The matter was brought to an-Nu’man ibn Bashir who was the Governor of Kufah. He said: I shall decide between you in accordance with the decision of the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him). If she made her lawful for you, I shall flog you one hundred lashes. If she did not make her lawful for you, I shall stone you to death. So they found that she had made her lawful for him. He, therefore, flogged him one hundred lashes.
Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4444
Narrated An-Nu’man ibn Bashir:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: about a man who had (unlawful) intercourse with his wife’s slave girl: If she made her lawful for him, he will be flogged one hundred lashes; if she did not make her lawful for him, I shall stone him.
Muslim :: Book 17 : Hadith 4201
Muslim :: Book 37 : Hadith 6676
Muslim :: Book 40 : Hadith 6856
Malik :: Book 41 : Hadith 41.2.13
Adultery with slave girl prohibited, beat punishment for weak person: even a weak person has no escape from the punishment of sex with slave.
Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4457
Narrated Some Companions:
AbuUmamah ibn Sahl ibn Hunayf said that some companions of the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) told that one of their men suffered so much from some illness that he pined away until he was skin and bone (i.e. only a skeleton). A slave-girl of someone visited him, and he was cheered by her and had unlawful intercourse with her. When his people came to visit the patient, he told them about it.
He said: Ask the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) about the legal verdict for me, for I have had unlawful intercourse with a slave-girl who visited me.
So they mentioned it to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) saying: We have never seen anyone (so weak) from illness as he is. If we bring him to you, his bones will disintegrate. He is only skin and bone. So the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) commanded them to take one hundred twigs and strike him once.
Slave sex prohibited:
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 93 :: Hadith 506
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
That during the battle with Bani Al-Mustaliq they (Muslims) captured some females and intended to have sexual relation with them without impregnating them. So they asked the Prophet about coitus interrupt us. The Prophet said, “It is better that you should not do it, for Allah has written whom He is going to create till the Day of Resurrection.” Qaza’a said, “I heard Abu Sa’id saying that the Prophet said, ‘No soul is ordained to be created but Allah will create it.”
Muslim :: Book 8 : Hadith 3432
Abu Sa’id al-Khudri (Allah her pleased with him) reported that at the Battle of Hanain Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah’s Messenger (may peace te upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists……….
Forced sex with slave punishment let free the slave/wife slave sex punishment equal slave give to the wife with permission of wife:
Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4445
Narrated Salamah ibn al-Muhabbaq:
The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) made a decision about a man who had intercourse with his wife’s slave-girl as follows. If he forced her, she is free, and he shall give her mistress a slave-girl similar to her; if she asked him to have intercourse voluntarily, she will belong to him, and he shall give her mistress a slave-girl similar to her.
Dawud :: Book 12 : Hadith 2304
Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah:
Musaykah, a slave-girl of some Ansari, came and said: My master forces me to commit fornication. Thereupon the following verse was revealed: “But force not your maids to prostitution (when they desire chastity).”
Forced sex with slave prohibited:
Malik :: Book 41 : Hadith 41.2.13
Malik related to me from Nafi that Safiyya bint Abi Ubayd informed him that a man who had had intercourse with a virgin slave-girl and made her pregnant was brought to Abu Bakr as-Siddiq. He confessed to fornication, and he was not muhsan. Abu Bakr gave the order and he was flogged with the hadd punishment. Then he was banished to Fadak, (thirty miles from Madina).
Malik :: Book 41 : Hadith 41.3.15
Malik related to me from Nafi that a slave was in charge of the slaves in the khumus and he forced a slave-girl among those slaves against her will and had intercourse with her. Umar ibn al-Khattab had him flogged and banished him, and he did not flog the slave-girl because the slave had forced her.
I THINK THAT ENOUGH FOR U AND OTHER ZOMBIES, WHO BLINDLY SAYS ISLAM PROMOTE SEX WITH SLAVE………..
Angemon says
sham cposted:
“@Angemon
i am copy /pasting some useful Islamic law from different islamic site ,”
Ah, so you’re copy/pasting from some other place else that copy/pasted from there. Doesn’t change a thing, but dully noted. And of course you have to blindly copy/paste, you have no clues about what islamic law teaches, so you furiously google and spam whatever dawah artist script you happen to come across without caring for context or relevance. But, of course, your “defence” makes no sense whatsoever because you’re not even talking about islamic law, you’re just copy/pasting bogus statistics and rants about Christians and Jews being sinners.
“it was my replay to blind allegation against islam”
Exactly what “blind allegation” are you talking about? Because if you think that copy/pasting from dawah websites is a proper “replay” then you’re incapable of doing a proper rebuttal. And that’s obvious since your original posts here are not about islamic law, you’re just copy/pasting bogus statistics and rants about Christians and Jews being sinners.
“u people think about the content of my post ,and don’t bother about it source”
Which is why I usually give you islamic sources that confirm what you’re trying to deny.
“I THINK THAT ENOUGH FOR U AND OTHER ZOMBIES, WHO BLINDLY SAYS ISLAM PROMOTE SEX WITH SLAVE…”
Except that Hugh gave you a list of quranic passages and ahadith saying it does, and you gave nothing that proves them wrong.
gravenimage says
Yet more from sham:
People often fail to distinguish between culture and religion, Two things that are completely different..
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Not always. Often culture is infused with religion, for good or ill. And since Islam by its very nature dictates all aspects of life, this is especially true in the Muslim world.
More:
Everybody focuses to Muslim women worldwide as oppressed, more specifically the Muslim Women of Afghanistan.
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Gee, I wonder why? I suppose this only seems mystifying if you fail to consider the Burqa, child marriage, and stonings to be oppressive.
More:
The media shows us how oppressed the Muslim women are there and people start linking three words in their minds: ‘Islam,’ ‘women’ and ‘oppression.’ Therefore, they think that Islam commands oppressing women.
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Yeah–except that it is the texts and tenets of Islam and the model of the “Prophet” that mandate such oppression. Women being forced to cover, the rape of girls as young and nine, and stoning to death all date to the earliest days of Islam.
More:
People often fail to distinguish between culture and religion, two things that are completely different. In fact, Islam condemns oppression of any kind whether it is towards a woman or in general.
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Of course, Islam does not consider these horrors or many others such as the rape of Infidels, the keeping of sex slaves, or “Honor Killing” disobedient women to be oppression at all. The only “oppression” in Islam is anything that obstructs the spread of Islam.
More:
Now, the Qur’an is the sacred book by which Muslims live. This book was revealed 14 centuries ago to a man named Muhammad who would later become the Prophet. Fourteen centuries have passed and this book has not been changed since, not one letter has been altered.
In surah number 33, entitled Al-Ahzab (Arabic for ‘The Clans’), on verse 59, it says: “O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw cloaks all over their bodies. That will be better as they shall be known (as free respectable women) and will not be annoyed…”
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It also includes Niqabs and Abayas and the Burqa.
“Not annoyed” means “not raped”. Any woman who does not wear Hijab is fair game.
More:
Sometimes, people see covered Muslim women and they think oppression. This is wrong. A Muslim woman is not oppressed, but she is liberated. This is because she is no longer valued for something material such as her good looks or the shape of her body. She compels others to judge her for her intelligence, kindness, honesty and personality. Therefore, people judge her for who she actually is.
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What claptrap. This Taqiyya is only for Western consumption–in Dar-al-Islam itself Muslims do not talk about the worth of a woman’s character. Women are traded like cattle.
More:
Women cover their hair to be modest. When they wear loose clothes, they are trying to be modest. In fact, nuns cover their hair out of modesty. Also, when we see frequent pictures of the Virgin Mary, she is covering her hair out of modesty. Therefore, Muslim women are doing the exact same thing as righteous Christian women.
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More crap. A Christian woman is not raped by Christian men if she is not wearing a wimple.
More:
The lives of the people who accepted the Qur’an changed drastically. It had a tremendous impact on so many people, especially women.
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God knows this is true–and everyone has been suffering for it ever since.
More:
It was the first time openly declared that the souls of men and women are equal. They would be bestowed the same obligation as well as the same rewards.
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What rot. Women are equal under Christianity.
As for Islam, inequality of women is part of the doctrine. Muhammed himself said that the majority of the inhabitants of hell are women.
More:
In addition to being equal to men, women get economic independence. The money they bring into marriage is theirs as well as the money they earn. A woman is allowed in Islam to choose their own husbands and in extreme cases, divorce.
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Actually, forced marriage and child marriage are rife in Islam. Any girl who resists is apt to be “Honor Killed”.
More:
A woman has the right to be educated, contrary to what the contemporary world might think. The responsibility is of the person who is raising her.
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Uh huh. And yet, this proxy for sham does not explain why his coreligionists are blowing up girls’ schools and gunning down girls who want to go to school.
The literacy rate for women in Dar-al-Islam is the lowest in the world.
More:
Now picture this: Fourteen hundred years ago Islam allowed women to vote for a leader. It was recently, in 1925, Canadian women became allowed to vote. Worst, in Quebec, the law became final in 1940. Muslim women got rights before Western women got any.
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Uh huh. And yet, this Mohammedan cannot explain why Muslims in the West–even centuries ago–so often exclaimed over how shocked they were that women had so much freedom and were able to speak their minds.
More:
Islam is a religion that holds women in high regard. Long ago, when baby boys were born, they brought great joy to the family. Girls brought less and occasionally none. Actually, girls were hated so much that they were sometimes buried alive. Islam was always against this female infanticide.
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The only non-repulsive things about Islam was condemning the infanticide of baby girls in Dark Ages pagan Arabia. Of course, Judaism and Christianity condemned such atrocities, as well, and did so long before Islam came along.
More:
The two great roles a woman plays in life are a wife and a mother. The Prophet once said to a group of men: “The best among you are those who are the best to their wives.” This shows that Islam highly encourages the well treating of the wives. This should be shown love, respect and care.
A man came to the Prophet, sallallahualayhe wa sallam, and asked: “Who among my kinfolk is worthy of my good companionship?” The Prophet, sallallahu alavhe wa sallam, replied: “Your mother” three times before saying: “Your father.” This indicates the impact that a mother has in a person’s life. So women are highly honored in this great religion. Islam is a only religion that treats women fairly. Oppression is condemned. I hope all of you know and remember this.
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No explanation of why women are more abused in Islam than anywhere else. He hopes no one will notice this.
con’t
gravenimage says
con’t
TEN MORAL CODE FOR AN IDEAL SOCIETY :
One : Men and women are to dress decently. As sight constitutes
the prime motivation of the sexual impulse in man, women are not to
dress in such a fashion as to display their beauty.
…………………………………..
In other words, if men rape women they are to blame. This is why rape victims are stoned to death in Islam:
“Islamic State stones four rape victims to death for ‘committing adultery’”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/02/islamic-state-stones-four-rape-victims-to-death-for-committing-adultery
More:
Two : There should be nothing in society which is of a sexually
provocative nature. Indeed, in an Islamic society caberrets, dances,
beauty contests, ballets and the like are never permitted.
…………………………………..
Islam bans the arts and restricts women’s freedom–but it allows sex slave markets and the rape of Infidel women in Jihad. This is Muslim “morality”. *Ugh*.
More:
Three : The unrestricted mingling of the sexes, which ultimately
leads to adultery, must be prevented.
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In other words, women must be kept in Purdah by their “Mehrams” (owners).
And note: “adultery” in Islam can mean not just adultery, but also choosing whom to love, speaking with unrelated men, or even–as seen above–being the victim of rape.
More:
Four : The use of sex as a profession must be completely
banned. For in an Islamic society, prostitutes, call-girls, sex-bombs,
nude models and the like are an impossibility.
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Yes–but temporary “marriage” and the keeping of sex slaves is completely Halal.
More:
Five: Men and women (excepting for the husband or any relative
with whom marriage has been prohibited ) are not to travel together.
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And women may not travel alone.
More:
Six :Men and women are not to converse freely except in the
presence of another person.
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And, as noted, the woman may be murdered if she runs afoul of this stricture.
More:
Seven: Unless they have become mates through the institution
of marriage, men and women are not to gaze at each other with lewed (sic)
passion.
Eight : They are not to speak, or flirt, in a manner that evokes lust.
Nine : If a man comes with the offer of marriage, the guardians
of the woman must come forward to offer her in marriage to him if he
is seen to be of a suitable person.
…………………………………..
In other words, a woman is not allowed to choose whom to marry, and may not marry for love. There is no love in Islam.
More:
Ten : In the case of the men who cannot find contentment in a
single woman, there is also the provisions – albeit, a conditional one –
to marry more than one woman.
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Yes–Muslims–men only, of course–may marry up to four women, including pre-pubescent little girls. He may also, as noted, have as many sex slaves as he desires, as well as raping Infidels in Jihad.
But a Muslim woman faces Honor Killing or stoning for hoping to make a love match.
More, in reply to Angemon:
@Angemon
i am copy /pasting some useful Islamic law from different islamic site ,it was my replay to blind allegation against islam, u people think about the content of my post ,and don’t bother about it source………..
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This viciousness is only “useful” if you want–as sham does–to abuse women with Islamic sanction.
More:
@Hugh
islam promote marriage with slave girl:
ISLAM ORDERED FREEING /MARRING /GIVE EDUCATION /KEEP GOOD MANNERS TO SLAVE GIRL
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sham has condoned the taking and keeping of slaves many times. In fact, as here, he *brags* about it. *Ugh*.
More:
24:33. and let those who find not the financial means for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah enriches them of His Bounty.
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This means that “Allah” provides them with slaves taken in Jihad.
More:
And such of your slaves as seek a writing (of emancipation), give them such writing, if you know that they are good and trustworthy. And give them something yourselves out of the wealth of Allah which He has bestowed upon you. And force not your maids to prostitution…
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A Muslim is not allowed to prostitute his slaves–but he can have sex with her, and pas them around to his Jihadist buddies. The “Prophet” Muhammed did this with captives and kidnap victims all the time.
More:
More:
……Qatada said: Abu Abdullah, would this happen? Thereupon he said: Yes. By Allah, I found this in the days of ignorance that a person grazed the goat of a tribe and did not find anyone but their slave-girl (and he did not spare her) but committed adultery with her.
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sham has posted this before. This is *not* prohibiting the rape of slave girls–it is just prohibiting the rape of *someone else’s* slave girl. The only crime here as Islam sees it is taking the property of another Muslim. The poor slave is not taken into account at all.
More:
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 93 :: Hadith 506
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
That during the battle with Bani Al-Mustaliq they (Muslims) captured some females and intended to have sexual relation with them without impregnating them. So they asked the Prophet about coitus interrupt us (sic). The Prophet said, “It is better that you should not do it, for Allah has written whom He is going to create till the Day of Resurrection.” Qaza’a said, “I heard Abu Sa’id saying that the Prophet said, ‘No soul is ordained to be created but Allah will create it.”
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This is *not* prohibiting sex with slaves–instead, it is the “Prophet” chiding his thuggish followers for practicing coitus interruptus when raping their captives–just the opposite of what sham claims.
More:
Muslim :: Book 8 : Hadith 3432
Abu Sa’id al-Khudri (Allah her pleased with him) reported that at the Battle of Hanain Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah’s Messenger (may peace te upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists……….
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This is also the opposite of a ban on Muslims raping their captives–the “Prophet” goes on to tell his troops that they need no be concerned that some of the captives are married, because marriage to “polytheists” and other Infidels is negated as soon as the women are taken captive. Hence, they are fair game for Muslim rape.
More:
I THINK THAT ENOUGH FOR U AND OTHER ZOMBIES, WHO BLINDLY SAYS ISLAM PROMOTE SEX WITH SLAVE………..
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That’s *exactly* what Islam does. Note, again, that sham is completely happy with Islamic slavery.
The West abolished slavery long ago–only Muslims still practice slavery, and are, in fact, reviving the hideous practice:
“Islamic State seems to be selling sex slaves online”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/05/islamic-state-seems-to-be-selling-sex-slaves-online
How can Mohammedans like sham live with themselves?
gravenimage says
Good posts, Angemon.
Bill says
Sham,
One of the things I learned about Christianity is that free will is the hallmark of being human. We get to choose. .In Islam, not much choice is countenanced. Basically, “join or die” is the binary construct. I’ll take my chances with Christianity. Thank you.
sham says
“” We get to choose “”
Total crimes: Countries Compared
RANK COUNTRIES AMOUNT
1 United States 11.88 million
2 United Kingdom 6.52 million
3 Germany 6.51 million
4 France 3.77 million
5 Russia 2.95 million
6 Japan 2.85 million
7 South Africa2.68 million
8 Canada 2.52 million
9 Italy 2.23 million
10 India 1.76 million
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Total-crimes
Murders per Year by Country
1. India 37,170
2. Russia 28,904
3. Colombia 26,539
4. South Africa 21,995
5. Mexico 13,829
6. United States 12,658
7. Venezuela 8,022
8. Thailand 5,140
9. Ukraine 4,418
http://www.juancole.com/
WORLD MOST LEADING RAPEST COUNTRY:
Rank Countries Amount
1 Lesotho 0.844 per 1,000 people
2 New Zealand 0.315
3 Belgium 0.299
4 Iceland 0.286
5 Norway 0.203
6 Israel 0.166
7 Finland 0.141
8 Chile 0.12
#9 Mongolia: 0.118
#10 Ireland: 0.102
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rapes/Per-capita
UN Rape Statistics:
RANK
1 United States of America 93883
2 Australia 18237
3 United Kingdom 13272
4 France 10408
5 Germany 8766
6 Russian Federation 8185
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics
http://www.yellodyno.com/pdf/Rape_Statistics.pdf
THAT THE RESULT OF ” WE GET AND WE CHOOSE “………DEAR BROTHER MOST OF U’R PPL NOW HATE THAT FREEDOM ,NOW THEY R CONVERTING TO ISLAM (MOSTLY WOMEN) AND THEY R LIKE TO ESTABLISH SHARIA THROUGH THEIR COUNTRY FOR THE PROTECTION OF PEOPLE AND SOCIETY.
Sex is a divine gift. Its foremost function amongst living creature
is reproduction. It is also true that in the case of man, besides
reproduction, his mental health, shappiness of family life , peacefull
social life : all are linked to sexuality. In availing of a sexual behaviour
that is not in keeping with the divine guidelines, the mental health of
the individual, solidarity of the family and social structure will be
adversely affected. Moreover, such extra-marital relations will lead
to the affliction by sexually transmitted diseases which will eventually
end in the degeneration of society. Indeed, those who have learned of
this through experience have been the very people who claim for
themselves the status of being the spokespersons of modern civilisation.
Islam teaches that if two individuals are to have sexual relations
with each other they are to do so only through the contract of marriage.
Apart from that all other relations are bound to create problems and
damage. It will also destroy the very fabric of all values in society. It
will cast the seeds of suspicion within one’s marital life. Such suspicion
will then create cracks within the rapport between hearts. It disrupts
family relations – it will even gravely affect the mental health of future
generations.
Islam has never envisioned such a society. Islam has striven for
the creation of a society wherein a peaceful family environment and
marital relationship prevails.
To that end, Islam considers that all sexual relations outside of
wedlock are to be prohibited. For that reason the Qur’an recommends
strict penal laws which serve to eliminate such sexual relations.
Conceding the fact that the sexual impulse is, indeed, one of the most
powerful of instincts, it is necessary, nevertheless, to check man, in
the exercise of that impulse, with equally compelling measures. Indeed,
herein lies the great relevance of the punishments in the Qur’an.
Now it is very often seen that those who used to speak of the
necessity of a sympathetic approach towards criminals admit defeat
in presenting a practical plan of action for making a peacefulsociety
that is free of crime, and cruelties. Those who demand sympathy for
criminals never worry about the sorrowful plight of those forced to
bear great losses due to these crimes.
The innocents who, for no reason or fault of theirs,unexpectedly
lose their lives.
The people who are stripped of their life’s earnings for which
they had toiled and suffered indescribable hardships.
The bonds of the family that are shattered by the wayward
lifestyle of a mate.
The children of the street who, with no one to care for them,
have been forced to earn their bread by begging.
Families that suffer hardships and break apart owing to the
alcoholism of the head of the family.
Angemon says
We’ve been through this before, sham, the spammer. Comparing the total number of crimes among different countries is meaningless because of the size of the population. Hence why they’re measured per 100,000 people. Even with that adjustment, it’s still iffy (except in, for example, situations like the number of murders) because different countries have different laws. Paedophilia and marital rape are illegal in Western countries but halal in muslim-majority countries.
Champ says
“Your a beautiful woman Angemon, I truly wish you the best. Such a smart lady.”
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ..too funny thanks for the belly laugh, Hugh!! 😀
gravenimage says
sham has posted this crap before. What he does not say is that no rape victim in her right mind would report a rape in Dar-al-Islam, given that she can be flogged or stoned to death if she does. That rather affects rape statistics..
germanycuck says
HAHAHHHAAHAHAHHAAHHAHAH
GERMANY CUCKS!!!
WAKE UP EUROPE
Billy S says
“Moving to ban” isn’t the same thing as “bans”.
“Plans to ban” isn’t the same thing as “bans.”
Your headline is MISLEADING. I like Jihad Watch and appreciate your work, but you’re not doing yourself or your readers any favors when you post inaccuracies.
Jon says
All to appease prudish Muslims! Same as what’s happening in Germany as Merkel seeks to ban ‘sexy woman’ ads so as not to upset her Muslims –
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/660477/Germany-bans-sexy-women-adverts-Cologne-sex-assaults