“What is often described as ‘radicalization’ is really a choice by ‘integrated’ Muslims to become religious and to act on their beliefs.”
“Integration is Not the Answer to Muslim Terrorism”, by Daniel Greenfield, Frontpage Magazine, April 1, 2016:
There is a famous photo of Anjem Choudary, the head of multiple banned organizations calling for imposing Sharia law on the UK whose follower was responsible for the Lee Rigby beheading, getting drunk as a young law student. Friends recall “Andy” smoking pot and taking LSD, sleeping around and partying all the time. Andy was really well integrated, but he still turned back into Anjem.
While the proliferation of segregated Muslim areas, no-go zones in which English, French or Dutch is the foreign language, is a major problem, it is a mistake to think that “integration” solves Islamic terrorism.
It doesn’t.
The Tsarnaev brothers who carried out the Boston Marathon bombings seemed integrated. Nobody noticed anything wrong with Syed Rizwan Farook, the San Bernardino shooter, or Faisal Shahzad, the Times Square bomber. They weren’t lurking in a no-go zone. They had American friends, an education and career options if they wanted them. They didn’t want them. And that’s the point.
Bilal Abdullah was a British-born doctor who tried to carry out a terrorist attack at Glasgow International Airport. He wasn’t marginalized, jobless or desperate. He had a cause.
Islamic terrorists have not been alienated by our rejection. They champion an alien creed that rejects us.
Quite a few converts have become Muslim terrorists. If integration were the issue, white converts to Islam wouldn’t be running off to join ISIS or plotting terrorist attacks like Don Stewart-Whyte, who converted to Islam and planned to blow up planes headed from the UK to the US. Along with his friend Oliver Savant, the son of a secular Iranian father and British mother, they are the reason why you can’t carry liquids onto a plane.
Muslim terrorism is not caused by failed integration, but by a conscious disintegration. What is often described as “radicalization” is really a choice by “integrated” Muslims to become religious and to act on their beliefs. Muslim men who formerly dressed casually begin growing beards and wearing Salafist garb. They consciously reject what Western society has to offer because they have chosen Islam instead.
Islamic terrorists have not been alienated by our rejection. They champion an alien creed that rejects us.
Social, linguistic and cultural integration won’t stop Islamic terrorism. They may prevent it in some cases and accelerate it in others. But it’s not the primary factor. Religion is. Cultural integration won’t make much of a difference in the face of religious disintegration.
This is the type of integration that is the real problem. Some of the worst Jihadists are culturally integrated and religiously disintegrated. They speak the native language fluently. They are intimately familiar with popular culture. They move easily among the native population. It’s their belief system that is fundamentally disintegrated and whose demands cannot be integrated without a civil war.
Their choices are not a referendum on our society. What we do in response to their terrorism is.
The issue is not economic. It is not linguistic. It is not about alienation or racism. It is about religion. And Europe is not comfortable with religion. It assumes that the religious is political, but in Islam, the political is instead religious. Europe has given no thought to how Islam can be integrated as a religion. Instead it has relied on the assumption that all religions are basically alike and that the aims and ideas of Islam are therefore interchangeable with those of Catholics, Lutherans, Jews and anyone else.
Every Islamic terrorist attack sends the message that its ideas and aims are not interchangeable.
Islamic terrorism is what happens when Muslims ‘get’ religion.
Europe does face challenges of cultural integration. But cultural disintegration isn’t blowing up airports or subways. Religious disintegration is. Cultural disintegration accounts for crime, riots and unemployment. It occasionally feeds into Islamic terrorism, but ideological violence is aspirational. It’s generally practiced by members of the middle class with money, leisure time and lots of self-esteem.
Like left-wing terror, Islamic terrorism is based on realizing a set of ideas about what the world should be like. These ideas are already embedded in the worldview of every Muslim to some degree. This is not a clash of civilizations or even cultures. It is a collision between the political and the religious.
The EU’s Federica Mogherini states, “Islam belongs in Europe…. I am not afraid to say that political Islam should be part of the picture.” Mogherini thinks of political Islam as a social welfare organization with a steeple, like the rest of the political religions of Europe. But political Islam is theocracy. And Europe was never able to integrate theocracy. Instead it overshadowed it with nationalism and then Socialism.
Secular Europe has forgotten what religion is. Religion is passion, conviction and redemption. It is not something that you occasionally live on the weekends. It transforms your life and your worldview.
How do you integrate that? Do you do it with language lessons, job training and a pat on the back?
Islamic terrorism is what happens when Muslims “get” religion. Not of the occasional casual variety, but of the fundamentally transformative kind. Integration assumes that once Mohammed is at university and drinking beer that he won’t suddenly decide to Jihad his way across Europe. But there are plenty of examples that show what a poor and fitful defense this is against the rebirth of a religious conviction.
Islam is not Lutheranism with more Arabic…
Cultural integration is an issue, but the real issue is philosophical integration. The real challenge is not in linguistic integration, but in the integration of ideas. And it is impossible to do that without addressing what Islam actually is and what it believes. Islam is not Lutheranism with more Arabic. Political Islam is not a soup kitchen and a used clothes bin. It is a conviction that the world is locked in a titanic struggle between Islam and the infidels, the forces of light and darkness, which must be won at any cost.
How do you integrate an ideology that is convinced that non-Muslim political systems are evil into Europe? What explanatory videos will you use to admonish Ahmed from Syria that he shouldn’t set off bombs at the railway station even though his religion commands him to fight the infidels? Which job will you use to induce Abdul to abandon his fervent belief that everyone must live under Islamic law?
Sanctimony and denial won’t untangle this Gordian knot. No amount of NGOs will turn Islam into something else. Cultural integration won’t transform Muslims into non-Muslims. All it does is make them conflicted and insecure. And that is why it is those second-generation culturally integrated Muslims who go to bars, call themselves Andy or Mo, sell drugs, go to university, who take a detour into Syria and come back with bomb plans and big plans for transforming Europe into an Islamic state.
Cultural integration builds up a conflict with Islam. Some Muslims respond to it by abandoning Islam, others by embracing it. If we fail to recognize this, then integration becomes a ticking time bomb.
خَليفة says
The sign which says “sharia for UK” is proof that Muslim have no intention to assimilate. Instead they want the host country to assimilate to sharia. This should be a red flag, for ALL western countries, on the true intentions of Muslim Immigrants and refugees.
Hindu American says
The way things are going downhill for UK and the speed at which the weasels are out-racing each other to hara kiri, the banner should now read “UK for sharia”.
Jay Boo says
Look at that rat pack of scraggly losers in the photo.
They all look like gang rapist child bride perverts on way to their molestation honeymoon night.
linnte says
I hate Anjem Choudary. I have never before hated a person-never not even Hitler. And I didn’t believe in demon possession, until this man. He is the epitome of Islam and its smirking superiority. Blah!
DFD says
Here’s something about him, and the likes of him.
https://youtu.be/wq_lhlIn1e0
DFD says
Here’s more about him, from the UK
https://youtu.be/wq_lhlIn1e0
Arthur says
But on the other hand, his honesty about the aims of Islam to defeat the infidel are welcome by comparison to the deception and lies from CAIR and the like. Those lies enable the ignorant to apologize for Islam or remain indifferent. Choudary helps to force the uncomfortable truth to the forefront. Choudary and Islamo-realists are in agreement over what Islam is: it seems mostly a matter of who is for or against.
Rebecca Roybal says
I feel exactly the same about that vile fiend, Choudary. What has become of the UK astonishes me to say the least. All one can do besides staying informed and involved in the safest possible ways to advocate against activities that allow indoctrination of Islam into our schools especially, is to stay mindful, involved in your own community and develop a plan to keep yourself and your family protected. I wish us all who see the Arabic writing on the wall good luck! We’re going to need it!
UNCLE VLADDI says
Hey Anjem is a gem – the only honest muslim in the world: one who openly tells it like it is!
Hope says
Nothing will change until Western citizens are willing to study and embrace the concepts outlined in this article. There is still too much confusion out there among the public about the cause of terrorism, jihad, and the constant advance of sharia law. There is only one cause: Islam. Read Robert Spencer’s book, The Complete Infidel’s Guide to the Koran. Take an honest look at the depraved life led by Muhammad. The governments and the media continue to spread false information.
Also, slightly off topic: The article refers to “integrated” Muslims going by Western names such as “Andy or Mo.” Let us not forget that fun-loving college kid, “Barry” Obama.
vcragain says
While I appreciate that you are wary of anyone with a ME sounding name, and realize why you feel like that, it is not fair to dismiss the actions or stated Christian beliefs of anyone JUST because they have that name – that’s called BIGOTRY – you need to be more intelligent than that – this is why we have the problems in the first place – they- those bad Muslims are labeling YOU because of what they perceive and based on what they presume you represent – the whole thing becomes a circle of hate with no way out. Your political beliefs also should be based on which system you think works the best way for the country, not what you believe is the candidates’ religious basis – hate is such a dangerous thing from either side of the equation, that is why we are having all these issues – you have to think more carefully before you spout hate ! Unfortunately lots of good people are getting dragged into this upswell of hate and we are doomed to a genocidal meltdown if that continues…you can hate the belief or the cult, but to label anyone who APPEARS to be part of the enemy because of a name is a mistake !!!!!
Let’s try to keep everything in the right category. Interesting fact is that in the Middle Ages, many thousands of Jews changed their names to Gentile sounding names BECAUSE of this same issue – they were subject to prejudice & hate just because of their name – you too may have ancestors that did that – many with European history are in that category and have no idea who they really are – hilarious !
Hope says
I am not spouting any hate. I am merely implying that Obama is a Muslim who has lied to the American people and passed himself off as a Christian.
Hope says
And by the way the reason “why we have the problems in the first place” is not because of bigotry. It’s because we have Muslims committing mass murder all over the world every day in the name of Allah and the prophet. If you wish to label those of us who stand against this evil as “bigots” then you are part of the problem.
Mark says
Now why would muslims stand against the actions, examples and teachings of muhamad?
Oh yes, ONLY for the purpost of missinformation, deception, wanting to make people blind untill muslims can rise up and genocide us.
No such thing as moderate muslims.
They all prove they are liars and by their lying, prove they are also extremists.
Michael Copeland says
British authorities are horrified by plots to murder non-muslims and terrorise them.
They call these “extremism” and “radicalism”.
Junead Khan was plotting to kill non-muslims in a terrorist attack.
BBC describe him as “embroiled in extremism”.
Police sought to “divert him from radicalism”.
These are British terms: there is no mention of them in Islam.
A diligent observant muslim obeys the instructions, which are “universal and trans-time”, in the Koran. The Koran is not optional: it is part of Islamic law. One who denies any verse has to be killed. The killing can be performed by anyone, penalty-free and vigilante-style, “since it is killing someone who deserves to die”.
The Koran contains repeated instructions to kill non-muslims simply for being non-muslims: “kill them wherever you find them” (2:191), “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” (8:12).
What British authorities term “extremism” and “radicalism” are simply obedience to the Koran, and completely authorised by it.
Killing non-muslims is basic orthodox Islam, as its1400-year track record shows.
The official British analysis is inadequate.
Authorities are pursuing a red herring.
sham says
# kill non-muslims………..
BEFORE 2:191……2:190 SAYS
190. And fight in the Way of Allâh those “””””””””””””who fight you””””””””, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allâh likes not the transgressors. [This Verse is the first one that was revealed in connection with Jihâd, but it was supplemented by another
THAT IS 9:191 REVILED FOR THE TERRORIST /CRIMINALS /RAPERS WHO COME TO ISLAMIC NATION WITH INTENTION OF THESE CHARACTER………..KILLING CRIMINALS IS THE PART OF MORALITY………..
“God forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you
not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing
kindly and justly with them: for God loveth those who are just.”
(H.Q. 60:8)
“God only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you
for (your) faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support
(others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship
and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumst
ances), that do wrong.” (H.Q. 60:9)
Western Canadian says
And again, the product of 1400+ years of inbreeding, comes by to demonstrate just how truly pathetic, untrustworthy, and dishonest muslims really are.
dsinc says
What a sham Islam is
bogus; false.
“a clergyman who arranged a sham marriage”
synonyms: fake, pretended, feigned, simulated, false, artificial, bogus, synthetic, spurious, ersatz, insincere, not genuine, manufactured, contrived, affected, plastic, make-believe, fictitious;
Thanks sham, the definition says it all.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Re:”Quran (2:191-193) – “And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing… but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone.”
The “funny” bit about this passage, is that NOBODY TURNED THE MUSLIMS OUT of their homes! This is only another example of Moe’s preposterous rationalizations and victim-blaming slanderous LIES which he put directly into the mouth of his lying sock-puppet, “allah,” right into his Qur’an!
What really happened, is that Moe had threatened the Meccans with violence, (as in: “I will bring you slaughter!”) simply for verbally contending with his claims, and so they had put him and his followers under house arrest, in Mecca! No out-turnings!
Then, Moe and his men snuck out their back doors and scampered off to Yathrib (“Medina”) where they raided innocent pilgrims’ Mecca-bound caravans for booty, and to later ransom the kidnapped hostages!
Ishaq [183] Guillaume P. 130-131:
Yahya b. ‘Urwa b. al-Zubayr on the authority of his father from’ Abdullah b. ‘Amr b. al-‘As told me that the latter was asked what was the worst way in which Quraysh showed their enmity to the apostle. He replied: ‘I was with them one day when the notables had gathered in the Hijr and the apostle was mentioned. They said that they had never known anything like the trouble they had endured from this fellow; he had declared their mode of life foolish, insulted their forefathers, reviled their religion, divided the community, and cursed their gods. What they had borne was past all bearing, or words, to that effect.’
While they were thus discussing him the apostle came towards them and kissed the black stone, then he passed them as he walked round the temple.
MORE PROOF MOE KISSED THE BLACK STONE! IDOLATER!
😉
As he passed they said some injurious things about him. This I could see from his expression. He went on and as he passed them the second time they attacked him similarly. This I could see from his expression. Then he passed the third time, and they did the same. He stopped and said, ‘Will you listen to me O Quraysh? By him who holds my life in His hand, I will bring you slaughter.’
THIS IS THE PROOF THAT MOE STARTED IT! HE INITIATED THE VIOLENCE!
Nobody simply came along and “drove the muslims out of their homes” for no reason what so ever!
Jay Boo says
A leash and a pooper scooper
These wild dogs when allowed to roam about unleashed will lift one hind leg and pee on everything in sight trying to claim our territory as theirs. If we allow them to do as they please they will drop freshly laid piles of sharia everywhere.
Angemon says
Great summing up.
sham says
The greatest proof for the Qur’an being a practicable book is
the very revolution that has been wrought by it. If we examine the
condition of Arabia before and after the revelation of the Qur’an, we
will be convinced of the practicable nature of the Qur’an.
It was a society which was steeped in the darkness of blind
superstitions; which was enslaved to the addiction to wine and
intoxicants; which showed not the least hesitation in the spilling of
blood over senseless conflicts to assert tribal superiority; which was
nowhere in the matter of knowledge and learning; which was ignorant
in the field of health care; which remained backward in the field of
agriculture; which lacked cohesiveness as a political and military bloc.
This was the state of Arabia before the revelation of the Qur’an.
When we look upon the Arabia after the revelation of the Qur’an,
however, it is the picture of the standard bearers of a civilization that
challenged, in its greatness, all the other civilizations of the day, which
we witness. Indeed, they had attained such prominence as to stand
higher that the Greeks who were the masters of the day in the fields
of science and arts. Alexandria was soon replaced by Baghdad as the
greatest centre of learning and culture. Furthermore, they now caused
to tremble even the empires of Rome and Persia both of which had
enjoyed the legacy of political leadership that were centuries old. The
Arabs, who engaged in unjustifiable tribal warfare and the wanton
spilling of blood, had now emerged as the flag bearers of unity and
cohesiveness. Not having known what morality and immorality were,
they now became the chief propagators of a moral code. The Holy
Qur’an had truly succeeded in remoulding Arabian society into one
which would prove to be a model for the whole world; and that too
within the span of only 23 years.
The Qur’an has, thus, been a book that enabled an entire race,
which had been nowhere in the fields of culture and civilization, to
attain the very pinnacle of human development within the short span
of twenty- three years. In fact, there has not been another book that
equals it in so transforming a whole race. The fact becomes abundantly
clear here that there has not been any other writing like the Qur’an
which has proved to be as practicable in guiding humanity to the path
of righteousness.
In reality, none of the critics of the Qur’an has been able to
prove the non-practicability of any of the laws enshrined in it, in an
impartial and truthful manner.
Susan B says
You call a killing manual noble? You call a cult that conquered more advanced civilizations and claimed everything from those civilizations as theirs, “pinnacle of human development”? Never was and never will be. Islam has created nothing except death and destruction. How do you think this evil cult grew but by convert or die and dare to leave and die and rape jihad. You want proof look to the islamic hell holes and look to all the good muslims slaughtering and raping in the name of their false and evil god allah. Your taqiyya is wearing very thin and insults educated people.
This is Allah’s “last word” on tolerance and peace toward non-Muslims. If nothing else up to this point had abrogated the tolerant verses, the verses below completely wipe out every last positive verse in the Quran for non-Muslims.
9:5 Slay the idolaters wherever you find them.
9:6 Those who submit and convert to Islam will be treated well. (Those who don’t submit will be killed. See previous verse.)
9:7-9 Don’t make treaties with non-Muslims. They are all evildoers and should not be trusted.
9:11 Treat converts to Islam well, but kill those who refuse to convert (see 9:5).
9:12-14 Fight the disbelievers! Allah is on your side; he will give you victory.
9:23 Don’t make friends with your disbelieving family members. Those who do so are wrong-doers.
9:29 Fight against Christians and Jews “until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”
9:33 The “Religion of Truth” (Islam) must prevail, by force if necessary, over all other religions.
9:41 Fight for Allah with your wealth and whatever weapons are available to you.
9:42 Those who refuse to fight for Allah (claiming they are unable) are liars who have destroyed their souls.
9:73 Fight the disbelievers and hypocrites. Be harsh with them. They are all going to hell anyway.
9:81-83 Those who refuse to give their wealth and lives to Allah will face the fire of hell.
9:85 Those who refuse to fight for Allah will be treated (along with their children) as unbelievers.
9:111 Believers must fight for Allah. They must kill and be killed. Allah will reward them for it.
9:123 Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you.
mortimer says
Hey, Sham! Susan disagrees that raping millions of kafir women is ‘practical’. She thinks is a crime deserving capital punishment for every Muslim who did it.
Hey, I disagree with you too. I think rape is not sanctioned by God and therefore, Islam is demonstrated to be false.
Jay Boo says
Muslims are very susceptible to becoming terrorists because they have no moral or spiritual foundation or core set of values. Instead they rely on the unreliable approval of other Muslims and trying to impress Allah with their willingness to submit to slavish mindless prayer rituals spoken in Arabic, a language that many Muslims don’t understand but mimic the words like incantations to a demon.
خَليفة says
Definition of “sham” – something which is not what it is purported to be
mortimer says
Sham (Mr.Syria) wrote: “the Qur’an being a practicable book”
The Koran is a troop motivator.
Islam is an excuse to hurt people.
Muslims are Allah’s bounty hunters paid to enslave or murder disbelievers with the promise of eternal sex with slaves.
Islam is a euphemism for enslavement.
The prime directive of Islam is to kill and enslave kafirs.
Bunyip says
Thanks for the potential convert’s introduction to Islam, but you really need to move on from the first lesson otherwise you’ll fall short of Allah’s expectations and go straight to Hell. Do not be so sure that you will reach Jannah with this kind of piffle when Mohammad himself didn’t have confidence in the fate of his soul.
I do hope you understand that you’re supposed to emulate Mohammad’s example as faithfully as possible, and not pick and choose the verses you like. Islam is not a salad bar sham.
Mark says
Typical muslim, making a response or statement that is the exact opposite of reality.
And because your nature and character is so twisted by the evil filth, you have no idea what you actually are and prove to everyone you are.
Your master satan wont reward you in heaven, how can he when allah himself says he fears the returh of ‘the king of kings’ JESUS CHRIST.
Satan allah also tells you that he is satan, the best of deceivers, also that no muslim will escape hell.
I am becoming more aware of how many muslims know the quran is a load of lies by the way, they are only muslim because of either cowardice or the delight in the evil filth it allows them to be.
UNCLE VLADDI says
ISLAM shows not the least hesitation in the spilling of blood over senseless conflicts to assert its tribal superiority. Islam didn’t change Arabia, it integrated and codified its criminality and then slanderously blamed “god” himself for the Arabs’ own violent choices.
Angemon says
sham posted:
“The greatest proof for the Qur’an being a practicable book is
the very revolution that has been wrought by it. ”
The greatest proof that the quran is an impracticable book is that not only it requires the knowledge of arabic, it requires the knowledge of arabic as it was spoken 1400 years ago in a very specific area.
“If we examine the
condition of Arabia before and after the revelation of the Qur’an, we
will be convinced of the practicable nature of the Qur’an.
It was a society which was steeped in the darkness of blind
superstitions”
Like kissing a black stone or throwing stones at the devil.
“This was the state of Arabia before the revelation of the Qur’an.”
And after – how many muslims have won Nobel prizes in science areas?
“When we look upon the Arabia after the revelation of the Qur’an,
however, it is the picture of the standard bearers of a civilization that
challenged, in its greatness, all the other civilizations of the day, which
we witness. ”
No, it’s a civilization that savagely attacked and abused other nations, took the little knowledge they did not destroy and claimed it as theirs.
“The Qur’an has, thus, been a book that enabled an entire race,
which had been nowhere in the fields of culture and civilization, to
attain the very pinnacle of human development within the short span
of twenty- three years.”
Nonsense. Western civilization, despite its flaws and shortcomings, is the pinnacle of human development. And it will keep getting better. What arabs did was to invade and destroy other civilizations, and the little that escaped destruction they claimed as their own. That’s not “attaining the pinnacle of human development”, that’s bringing human development down – it’s burning a kingdom to rule the ashes. Even back then non-muslim nations were more developed than muslim nations, arab or otherwise.
DFD says
A society that is proclaimed to be ‘multicultural’ cannot and will not assimilate anything or anyone. If it would do so it would not be multicultural.
In fact, if it were to assimilate others, of whatever, it would be monocultural. Which is what Christian / Roman societies or nations have been for the last 1,500 to 2,000 years. With minor variations.
Assimilation and multiculturalism are logically incompatible, mutually exclusive.
Consequently, those who proclaim that we live in a multicultural society and want to assimilate others, are lying, deceiving the people. Unless of course they themselves are incapable of reason. However, given their manipulations for their financial advantages, and exclusions from legal responsibilities, their ability to reason is self-evident. As seems to be their intent to deceive their electorate as well as to destroy the societies of the electorate.
For what reason – or gain?
killerjools says
So what culture is islam exactly? 7th Century Arabia?
mortimer says
DFD wrote: “those who proclaim that we live in a multicultural society and want to assimilate others, are lying, deceiving the people. Unless of course they themselves are incapable of reason”
Leftarded cultural Marxists are capable of reason, but they use their faculty to disinform…they are thus wicked liars whose lust for power knows no bounds. They obliterate reason to achieve political hegemony and have been largely successful at deceiving in Western Europe and North America.
They’re not stupid, but merely lacking in ethics and morals. Their motive is the exercise of power and the quest for a never achieved and never achievable Marxist utopia.
They see Muslims as fellow travellers, but Muslims are not. Muslims have a different Utopia. It is as cruel and even more cruel than the Marxist Utopia. Both utopias have been tried in historic demonstrations that proved they both follow failed gods…whether the failed god Marx or the failed god Mohammed.
killerjools says
All well and good, So what’s the answer?
mike ryan says
The correct answer to Muslim terrorism is de-naturalization and deportation.
Marcel Bérubé says
When someone get in the jihad , there is a big gain for him . He win eternal
life . All his past is swept away . It seems to be a good bargain for someone with a cri-
minal record.
mortimer says
Anjem Choudary is always a slice of real Islam. The remarkable thing about him is how rapidly he rattles off chapter and verse of Islamic texts that call for violence against the disbelievers.
He has probably memorized all 164 jihad verses in the Koran and the 14 kafir-hatred verses and all the Jew-hatred verses WITH their references numbers!
You can always count on Choudary to give you 100% authentic Islam. It’s refreshing that he confirms everything that counterjihadists are saying about Islam’s supremacist ideology.
There’s very little or no taqiyya in Choudary except when he denies encouraging his followers to commit murder. Being a lawyer, he understands how to use plausible deniability.
Marty says
Devout Sunni & Shite mohammedans are quite simply the distlllation of evil.
Genuinely “moderate muslims” are members of breakaway groups and not
recognised as genuine by the overwhelming majority.
In the UK successive governments have been cowed &/or bribed by the most
evil muslims, the Saudis.
The West should support & respect ex muslims, but treat devout sunnis & shites as
we treat neo nazis or the KKK.
Not pay for their schools & give permission for mosque building
Stan says
I do not understand why writers such as those we see on these pages always capitalize the word “muslim”. Is it due to respect?
Truth Teller says
“Integration” into what? Western traditions and institutions is exactly what Muslims want to destroy, so what type of “integration” would anyone suggest? Muslims don’t want to integrate into nothing and what they really want is to take over your country, establish their stupid “sharia” and enslave you. Wake up!
UNCLE VLADDI says
Re: “ISIS is not a form of “nihilism” that European Muslims resort to after being alienated by racism and driven to despair by joblessness. It’s an alternative system that draws on over a thousand years of Islamic religion and culture. It’s not a negative choice, but a positive one. It’s not an act of despair, but of hope.”
THIS IS SIMPLY UNTRUE.
Criminals are self-retardingly lazy, refusing to see that they can make them selves better (safer and happier) by focusing on bettering them selves, in favor of giving up on and ignoring them selves, while focusing on external idols as alibis to excuse their criminal negligence towards improving them selves, and to excuse their own other criminal desires and actions: to avoid their own fears and pains by blaming others for them, in stead of working to fix the mistakes and solve the problems which cause the pains they fear the most. So they choose to habitually prefer to slander, blame, and attack innocent other people. Doing this only proves they have given up on them selves.
Just because they also embrace someone else’s “god”-sanctioned codified and enshrined with the religious imprint version of this self-treason, one specifically known as Muhammad’s “islam,” (because it isn’t an evil criminal choice to become an evil criminal if others all do it, too, and besides crimes aren’t crimes when they can be blamed on “god”) doesn’t change the fact that the impulse to join the crime-gang of holy mobsters doesn’t originate with any god, but within their own insecurities and lack of hope for the future.
dajjal says
Sorry, Unk, yer probing deep into a shallow cancer with this one. The Sheikh is correct in his analysis.
Islamic violence flows from its damnable doctrines enshrined in the Koran, exemplified in sunnah and codified in shari’ah. Its about Isdamn, not assimilation, alienation, poverty, repression or suppression.
Granted, the second wave if recruits in Yatthrib were drawn by the promise of loot and many of the Black criminal class enlist for the same reason along with psychological issues. But the author is absolutely right in the correct context.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Muhammad himself attacked other people because he wasn’t smart enough to hold a real job or invent anything beneficial to humanity. But he made up a good excuse for allah his crimes!
Stan says
I am in agreement with you.
I cannot say something bad about muhammad. I cannot say something bad about something that did not exist. That is until I have proof to the contrary.
dajjal says
Did Kauthan Ibn Abdulla ibn al-Muttalib who called himself the honored one, recite the Koran? If not, who did? Did he stage a caravan raid at Badr? If not, who did? Did he drive the Banu an-nadir outta the Hijaz? If not, who did? What the Hell difference does it make??? Islam exists and it is the greatest evil in the world; it must be eradicated.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Re: “The issue is not economic. It is not linguistic. It is not about alienation or racism. It is about religion. And Europe is not comfortable with religion. It assumes that the religious is political, but in Islam, the political is instead religious.”
ISLAM’S REASON FOR EXISTENCE WAS ALSO (ORIGINALLY) AN ECONOMIC ONE:
Liberals, being Marxists, see everything from an economic, not a religious, viewpoint.
That IS their “religion.” So to them muslims can’t be dangerous because of general religious doctrines which tell them to hate infidels because their god does, it must be because of specific economic grievances.
They ignore that islam was created by rich Muhammad to further enrich himself at everyone else’s expense, and is still perpetrated. And it’s based on Moe’s self-enriching and crime-excusing alibi that god wanted him to commit his crimes!
sam says
The chap looking at the sign is saying,”I thought it said,The Dole Wallahs For UK”!!..cause wez ol on the
jam role innit.Effing liberty these imbeciles..
mortimer says
THE POLITICAL ARGUMENT AGAINST MUSLIM IMMIGRATION
Political Islam begins with the concept of ‘jahiliyya’ which says that non-Islamic societies must be destroyed.
We cannot bring overwhelming numbers of revolutionaries of this sort into the West without creating the conditions for civil war. Muslims are commanded by their sacred texts to politically take over every country where Muslims live and to attack those countries where Muslims do not live in order to Islamize them. This is firstly, civil war and secondly, invasion.
Islam is thus incompatible with pluralism, freedom of expression and liberal democracy, since Muslims are obligated to make Islam the political system of every country.