Stoning adulterers is not “extremist”; it is Islamic law. The caliph Umar, one of Muhammad’s closest companions, even maintained that it was originally in the Qur’an:
‘Umar said, “I am afraid that after a long time has passed, people may say, “We do not find the Verses of the Rajam (stoning to death) in the Holy Book,” and consequently they may go astray by leaving an obligation that Allah has revealed. Lo! I confirm that the penalty of Rajam be inflicted on him who commits illegal sexual intercourse, if he is already married and the crime is proved by witnesses or pregnancy or confession.” Sufyan added, “I have memorized this narration in this way.” ‘Umar added, “Surely Allah’s Apostle carried out the penalty of Rajam, and so did we after him.” (Bukhari, vol. 8, bk. 82, no. 816)
“Allah’s Apostle” is, of course, Muhammad, who did indeed carry out stonings. Here is the hadith in which he challenges the rabbis about stoning, and in which there is amidst the barbarism and brutality a final act of love and compassion:
The Jews came to Allah’s Apostle and told him that a man and a woman from amongst them had committed illegal sexual intercourse. Allah’s Apostle said to them, “What do you find in the Torah (old Testament) about the legal punishment of Ar-Rajm (stoning)?” They replied, (But) we announce their crime and lash them.” Abdullah bin Salam said, “You are telling a lie; Torah contains the order of Rajm.” They brought and opened the Torah and one of them solaced his hand on the Verse of Rajm and read the verses preceding and following it. Abdullah bin Salam said to him, “Lift your hand.” When he lifted his hand, the Verse of Rajm was written there. They said, “Muhammad has told the truth; the Torah has the Verse of Rajm. The Prophet then gave the order that both of them should be stoned to death. (‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar said, “I saw the man leaning over the woman to shelter her from the stones.” (Bukhari, vol. 4, bk. 56, no. 829)
Even the monkeys practiced stoning, according to another hadith:
During the pre-lslamic period of ignorance I saw a she-monkey surrounded by a number of monkeys. They were all stoning it, because it had committed illegal sexual intercourse. I too, stoned it along with them. (Bukhari, vol. 5, bk. 58, no. 188)
Muhammad’s example is, of course, normative for Islamic behavior, since “truly in the messenger of Allah you have a good example for him who looks to Allah and the Last Day, and remembers Allah much” (Qur’an 33:21).
“ISIS extremists stone two civilians to death on charges of ‘committing adultery,’” by Helin Saeed, ARA News, April 1, 2016:
ALEPPO ــ Militants of the radical group of Islamic State (ISIS) stoned two Syrian civilians to death in Manbij city of Aleppo province on charges of ‘committing adultery’, local sources reported on Thursday.
A man and a woman were arrested on Wednesday under the pretext that they have committed adultery. The two victims were referred to the Sharia Court, which has ordered their immediate execution by publicly stoning them to death.
Speaking to ARA News in Manbij, media activist Nasser Taljbini said that after reciting the conviction, ISIS militants publicly stoned a man and a woman to death near the bridge of Manbij.
“Hundreds of people were watching the chilling scene silently,” an eyewitness told ARA News, speaking on condition of anonymity.
“Following the execution, some locals started chanting supportive slogans to the Daesh-led brutal act,” the source said, using an acronym for ISIS….

marble says
My God said that he who was without sin could cast the first stone; t hat would be nobody.
John spielman says
Yes and these people worship Satan/ allah who was a murderer from the beginning
Jay Boo says
Please excuse me jumping ahead here John before the false equivalence distraction away for Islam’s evil provided below by Thought_Weaver to mention the movie The Stoning of Soraya M that critics slammed supposedly for gratuitous violence
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1320989/The-Stoning-Soraya-M-The-horrific-execution-scene-got-film-banned.html
The Stoning of Soraya M
Thought_Weaver says
Lol! Jay Boo. You could not even come up with an answer to my question ” I came not to send peace” by Jesus and explain the metaphor for it, and many others too. What you are doing is actually diverting attention of others from your inability to counter me with reason. And you are blaming me for distraction? There are thousands of topics in this forums. Neither do I have the power nor the intent to jeopardize the tremendous effort Mr. Spencer and team puts into this blog. This blog does not only encourage Islam bashing. It is about free speech too. I raised valid questions that troubled me by quoting your very own scriptures. Now why would that be a problem? You think I am mistaken? Well then prove me wrong and get ahead in life. Why this effort to malign me by making personal attacks and accusing me of distraction. Am sure all the readers of the forum are matured enough. You don’t have to be the Messiah trying to save their attention from getting diverted. Take a chill pill Boo.
Jay Boo says
The above clip is sanitize at the end not because of gratuitous violence but because it is about Islam.
Jay Boo says
The first rock is procured and seduced with a Qur’an’s deadly embrace.
Her final breath secured when both weapons are fondled with eager disgrace.
Thought_Weaver says
But unfortunately your god also said these:
Luke 12:45 But suppose the servant says to himself, ‘My master is taking a long time in coming,’ and he then begins to beat the other servants, both men and women, and to eat and drink and get drunk.
Luke 12:46 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers.
Luke 12:47 “The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48 But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.
–Above we see that Jesus is not out-rightly condoning slavery, instead it’s like saying “You can rape but please use condoms”. Now don’t come at me with arguments like it was in vogue to have slaves when Jesus lived. That one should not compare morality of the present day with that of the time Jesus lived. What is morally wrong is morally wrong, time period is no justification for something that is abhorrent.
Matthew 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.
Matthew 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
Matthew 10:38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
Matthew 10:39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
Well in short it’s like my way or the highway kind of thing. Then threats of hellfire to those who don’t believe in him. I mean common man, Son of God/God/Prophet threatening people and coaxing people to follow him? Look at Matthew 10:37. You have to love him more than your parents and children to prove your loyalty? Please do, but don’t preach us half baked truths. I ask all the christian evangelists who work in abroad and India spreading the gospel and converting people, please tell them everything about Jesus, do not cherry pick and try and fool people.
Have a look at Matthew 10:35-36: Doesn’t sound like Jesus was that flaccidly peaceful now, does it?
See, the problem with religion is you have to first believe and then spend the rest of your life trying to justify your belief. Well you are free to do that, of course. But do not misguide others. Evangelists in India, do not insult Hindu gods and goddesses in trying to prove the moral superiority of your so called religion. If your religion is indeed the truth, then that should be enough incentive for people to get convinced, do not belittle others’ beliefs to gain your foot hold. And I humbly request, please read the whole of the Bible and do not cherry pick according to your convenience. Read it with a neutral and honest conscience and the truth shall set you free. Amen.
P.S. Not all of Jesus’s teachings are bad. Many a gems of wisdom can be found in the Bible. But then many of those nuggets of wisdom came to other people too who lived centuries ago Jesus was even born. So, yes the historical Jesus might have been a great philosopher and humanist but he was definitely not the first one.
Champ says
Thought_Weaver wrote:
–Above we see that Jesus is not out-rightly condoning slavery, instead it’s like saying “You can rape but please use condoms”.
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What a ridiculous and vile remark. Jesus did not say anything even remotely *close* to the garbage you’re spewing: “You can rape but please use condoms”
Jesus is warning His followers to be Watchful regarding His second coming, and NOT to be caught living in sin. Jeez do you have reading comprehension problems? Apparently. And what is your purpose in stating something so preposterous? Except to demonstrate that you’re a complete nincompoop who’s trying to discredit Jesus Christ–and doing a really poor job at it, btw. All you’ve proven is that you’re a stupid fool and that’s it. Learn to read the Bible and then report the Truth about what you’ve learned, if you can! No one is interested in your idiotic ponderings and ridiculous assumptions. Good grief. I have zero patience for such stupidity.
Thought_Weaver says
Now where in that above sentence does it say that Jesus uttered the words “You can rape but please use condoms”. That was my personal comment to take my point across. Read, man, read without the veil of blind faith. This is the problem with people following religion blindly. They cannot even see what others see. They will only see what they want to see. Now that’s not a sign of intellect. Instead of countering me on my points with logic and civility you resort to attacks on my person. I have quoted passages from the New Testament. It’s your Holy Book, am sure you know better. I did not quote my essays from primary school. You want to deny those passages, well you will do humanity a favor then, go ahead.
Champ says
Now where in that above sentence does it say that Jesus uttered the words “You can rape but please use condoms”. That was my personal comment to take my point across.
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I *was* talking about YOUR comment, not Jesus’ …so it seems that you’re the one that can’t read, dufus.
You are truly stupid maybe even retarded. Oh why so I bother with someone as dense as you …
Thought_Weaver says
My my such fragile sensibilities. More personal attacks? Hahaha! Cannot handle even a little bit of criticism of christianity? Oh! your wobly wobly faith. C’mmon show some more anger,more slandering, throw it all out in the open today for everybody to see the hypocrisy(We are peace loving, we don’t hurt others because we are christians. As if being christian has given them the moral high ground on everything). Not even a single logical counter to the points I raised. I am “stupid and maybe retarded” as you say but you my friend are a genius. So, I believe you will get my point this time around. “You can rape but please use condoms” was used as an analogy to explain how Jesus does not explicitly state that slavery is wrong. Whether you beat a slave less or more does not count. Slavery is dehumanizing, it was so in the past, and it will remain so for ever. It is exactly these kind of sanctions in the bible that encouraged slavery on the Africans in the first place. You Christians later abolished it, a terrific and applaudable job indeed. But what you did was out of you own conscience, not because the bible said so because unfortunately it does not. Committing a crime is condemnable as much as tolerating a crime and not doing anything about it when you actually have the means and divine power to rectify such kind of ills in the society. Don’t get hyper Champ, Love me more. 🙂
Jay Boo says
It is strange that I have not seen Thought_Weaver comment against Islam here.
Have I missed that?
Did this commenter cherry pick verses to discredit Christianity while ignoring MUSLIMS budgeting with stones for Allah. Surely this is not being done by anyone in the world but bloodthirsty pious MUSLIMS?
What does this commenter with a supposedly “neutral and honest conscience ” have to say as to the meaning of just one of Thought_Weaver’s cherry picked verses I picked at random … Matthew 10:34?
“Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.”
You do realize Thought_Weaver that Jesus was using a metaphor and not referring to attacking people with a literal sword?
Maybe that does not fit into your “neutral and honest” assessment.
Jay Boo says
bludgeoning with stones for Allah
Thought_Weaver says
It seems I have garnered quite an attention. Matthew 10:34 “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword”. Fine the sword is a metaphor, but seriously who decides whether it is metaphorical or literal? You? Or your other co-religionist humans? You interpret the word of God? Are you another so called prophet claiming divine intelligence? What about “I came not to send peace” from the same passage? How do you sugar coat that one Jay Boo? It is all upto interpretations by human beings and humans err. That’s exactly my point. People choose to say the “sword” is metaphorical because they find it opposing to their basic humane tenets. You just have it in you. Does not matter which religion you are affiliated to. And that’s why we find that majority of the christians are peace loving.
Going by your logic even muslims can say that those hateful passages are metaphorical, just like the Sufis did to fool the gullible polytheist Hindus of India during muslim invasions. And please, stop this ‘quoting out of context’ rhetoric. I see muslims regularly doing it to hide their flaws, don’t ride the same wagon as them. I can bet my life on it that if I had quoted any of the other peaceful verses of the Bible, no one of these so called believers would have objected then, for taking verses out of context.
Jay Boo says
Thought_Weaver said
“Fine the sword is a metaphor, but seriously who decides whether it is metaphorical or literal? You? Or your other co-religionist humans?”
That is a reasonable presumption.
Actually it is neither. you can easily see for yourself with the verse in context by using a “neutral and honest conscience ” while reading the verses before and after.
http://biblehub.com/matthew/10-34.htm
There are also Bible commentaries to stimulate critical thinking.
Thought_Weaver says
Jay Boo said:
That is a reasonable presumption.
Actually it is neither. you can easily see for yourself with the verse in context by using a “neutral and honest conscience ” while reading the verses before and after.
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I am learning from you guys to put my answers in context here in the forum, like the format i have used above :). Thanks guys.
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The verses before and after Matthew 10:34? Here you go,
32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven.
33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
I had already commented on it: “Well in short it’s like my way or the highway kind of thing.”
34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
I had asked you: What about “I came not to send peace” from the same passage? How do you sugar coat that one Jay Boo?
I haven’t got my answer yet.
35 For I have come to turn“‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
Kindly metaphorize the above one please.
36 A man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
Oh, how cool and comforting to know. Kindly elaborate.
37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.
Are these narcissistic traits of Jesus much like mohammed of islam?
Surah 9:24, Quran :-Say: ‘If it be that your fathers, your sons, your brothers, your mates, or your kindred; the wealth that ye have gained; the commerce in which ye fear a decline: or the dwellings in which ye delight – are dearer to you than Allah, or His Messenger, or the striving in His cause;- then wait until Allah brings about His decision: and Allah guides not the rebellious.”
I appreciate you keeping a cool head with me. I know its hard to handle criticisms sometimes. But critical thinking is the very essence of divinity, i reckon. Search for the ultimate truth, one may call it. I have nothing against christianity if only they were not so eager to proselytize anyone and everyone.
Lastly @ Bunyip
Bunyip said: You’re way behind in understanding the differences (and similarities) between religions, so you take the easy road and reduce everything to a manageable meme, and say to yourself “yeah, but the Bible has negative passages too”. Epic fail.
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Yes, I do lack in understanding in many areas and not just religion. And am eager to learn. Are you my friend? Or do you happen to know literally everything because you have the one true book? Decide for yourself.
Champ says
Jay Boo wrote:
It is strange that I have not seen Thought_Weaver comment against Islam here.
Have I missed that?
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You’re right, Jay Boo. The nasty troll “Thoughtless_Weasel” is only here to bash Christians and Christianity. Nary a word against islam–the purpose of the site.
Jay Boo says
Not need to worry, this clever one has shown his/her cards.
The article had nothing to do with Christianity but Thoughtless_Creeper insisted on tossing out tons of troll bait in a desperate attempt to cover for the shameless disgrace of what Muslims are doing on a daily basis yo feed Allah’s love of human misery.
That is what years of carpet kissing and choking the rooster while listening to the sound of the dying rooster screech of the Islamic (call to prayer) does to the mind.
This troll is trying to rain on our parade.
It would take a flood of rains to drown out Muhammad’s shame and disgrace.
Speaking of RAINS
Thought_Weaver says
Champ says
April 4, 2016 at 3:33 am
Jay Boo wrote:
It is strange that I have not seen Thought_Weaver comment against Islam here.
Have I missed that?
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You’re right, Jay Boo. The nasty troll “Thoughtless_Weasel” is only here to bash Christians and Christianity. Nary a word against islam–the purpose of the site.
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Really guys? Now you are ganging up and then calling me names together? What a pity.
“Nary a word against islam–the purpose of the site.”
I am sorry to say, just like all the other assumptions of yours you are wrong once again my friend. Please refer below for my comment on the link given below.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/04/fatwa-chanting-victory-to-mother-india-is-un-islamic#comments
Let me make it easier for you, here is what i commented. READ guys READ, without the veil of blind faith.
Thought_Weaver says
April 2, 2016 at 2:29 am
Nah nah nah! You guys have got it all wrong. Islam is a religion of peace. Its Hindus, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Sikhs, Jains, Zoroastrians, Yazidis and any other religion in this world that is not islam who are behind all the allahu akbars and inshallas. Infact those who place the rug, offer namaz and then PEACEFULLY blow themselves up are JEWwwwws! It’s a Zionist conspiracy u c. Not Muslims, Not In Their Name. Quran is the clearest of all books, with clear signs and directives for one and all to understand and that is why Allah has written it in Arabic, Yup, See you know Arabic now, don’t you? You bloody Kaafir, spreading mischief in the land. You see that is the reason why Islam does not have so many difrerent off shoots like Shia, Sunni, Sufi, Ahmedis, Alawites, Druzes, Salafis, Wahabbis, you name it. And remember when ever you try and quote the so called violent verses in the Quran, you are actually quoting it “out of its god damned context”. But if you quote the genuinely peaceful ones, context any one? The so called Islamic state does not quote and justify anything from the Quran or Hadis, they quote scriptures from the Vedas. Period. Oh yes, ISLAMIC state is not ISLAMIC. Didn’t Obama stress it enough for you guys? You hypocrites.
Jay Boo says
April 4, 2016 at 4:29 am
Not need to worry, this clever one has shown his/her cards.
The article had nothing to do with Christianity but Thoughtless_Creeper insisted on tossing out tons of troll bait in a desperate attempt to cover for the shameless disgrace of what Muslims are doing on a daily basis yo feed Allah’s love of human misery.
That is what years of carpet kissing and choking the rooster while listening to the sound of the dying rooster screech of the Islamic (call to prayer) does to the mind.
This troll is trying to rain on our parade.
It would take a flood of rains to drown out Muhammad’s shame and disgrace.
Speaking of RAINS
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My dear fellow human. Why don’t you go one on one with me instead of beating around the bush? If there is one country that has suffered the most of Islamic conquests and is still suffering , that is India. And you most of all cannot enlighten me on the evils of Islam ok mate? When all the Kashmiri Pandits were thrown out of their own state by muslims and are now living in their own country as refugees, it was not you who suffered. When muslims regularly play the victim card and use the same constitution that guarantees them freedom of religion against their own country, It’s us who suffer. When muslims of India cheer for Pakistan in a Indo-Pak cricket match, it is us who feel the pain. And the putrid list goes on an on. So papa don’t preach.
Bunyip says
Luke 12:45- 12:47 above are parables. A parable is meant to illustrate a moral lesson, in this case the spiritual unpreparedness of the so-called faithful using the “master” and “servant”, something every person could relate to, as protagonists in the stories. Parables are not supposed to be taken literally any more than Aesop’s fables are. It says a lot about your level of comprehension that you do.
As for Matthew, this is supposed to make it clear that those who choose to follow Jesus will not have an easy life, and that the spiritual path asks one to reprioritize their loyalties, loves and attachments- just ask any Hindu or Buddhist. It does not mean that one should take up the sword, something that Jesus never did.
You’re way behind in understanding the differences (and similarities) between religions, so you take the easy road and reduce everything to a manageable meme, and say to yourself “yeah, but the Bible has negative passages too”. Epic fail.
Bunyip says
@ Thought Weaver
I am not your enemy. I understand your point about each wanting to see what they want to see, but you needn’t tax yourself with Biblical or other verses. It’s really simple: compare the life that Jesus led to the life that Mohammad led. They are unequivocally the opposite of one another, and one doesn’t need to be a Christian to see it, one just needs common sense.
The correct interpretation of each religion is in the behaviour of it’s founder.
Thought_Weaver says
Neither am I. But even if I am your enemy, you gotta love me brother. Even if i put a crown of thorns and torture you to death, you still gotta love me brother.
Matthew 5:44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you…
If you are so concerned about how one man called Jesus lead his life and are asking me to follow his example, why don’t you lead the way? Will you bear with me if I impart those tortures on you my friend? Will your love grow with my tortures inflicted on you? Think about it. I have said it before, selective reading of the Bible is selective, hence not the whole truth. You guys simply tend to ignore what you cannot defend. And then you and your ilk have the chutzpah to come and say to non-christians things like “No matter how good a human being you are, you still are doomed to burn for eternity in hell”. Why? Only and only because I did not accept Jesus as my saviour. How much more offensive can one get? Your missionaries in India make fun of Hindu gods and goddesses. They say Hindus worship trees, monkeys, cows with a smirk on their faces as if they have grasped the knowledge of the universe by virtue of a book called bible which has contributions from so many authors. How on earth are we to verify their integrity? Did that thought ever cross your religiously clouded mind?
Now by your logic it’s true that you did not literally throw me into hellfire but are just telling me that I would if I don’t toe your Jesus’s line. Is that all you can come up with?
Why did Jesus not plainly state that SLAVERY IS WRONG! for ever and ever Amen. Was it that difficult to utter?
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marble said:
My God said that he who was without sin could cast the first stone; t hat would be nobody.
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Why did he not say ONE SHOULD NOT STONE A HUMAN BEING TO DEATH FOR ADULTERY, instead of talking in parables? Who are you to stop me from thinking that I have not sinned? Should I start throwing stones at adulters? Talking in parables you say, confusing the hell out of people and keeping ample scope for various interpretations. No, no, the “sword” is metaphoriacal, but,but, peaceful verses are literal. Whom are you kidding?
And for your kind information I am not even comparing Jesus with Mohammed. Both are shady characters in my view. Only difference is Jesus was a passive supporter of many of the things that mohammed vouched for. As you rightly said “One just needs common sense”. I hope that sense dawns on you my friend.
Now have you made up your mind on bearing my tortures and loving me for it? If the answer is a “NO” would I be wrong in saying that you are not following the teachings of Jesus?
mccode says
It is amazing and tragic that delusional idiots believe they “know” what God “demands” of them.
No one — no one — should presume to have such insight, especially when that “revelation” is conjoined with the conviction to kill for the “transgression”.
Jerry says
That’s how demented their morality and religion are. Their religion is a perverse violation of basic human rights. There’s nothing spiritual about islam. It’s an ignorant religious paradigm for idiots and fools. To me, moderate muslims are like a sea of poop floating a ship of religious pirates. I can’t excuse them for the role they play in sailing that ship. They all bear some responsibility for maintaining the hate their faith has for non-muslims. Sane people who object to their jihad hate should not have to bear the brunt of muslims’ moral ignorance by being branded an islamophobe or bigot. Moral people should not be chastised for their humanitarian concern and rational objections to islam. When I think of the venomous hate R. Spencer and others have had to bear for their fair-minded objections to islam’s jihad agenda, I’m appalled. But in a perverse way it enhances the greatness of his role, like a boxer getting punched bloody for family and friends. You gotta respect a man that takes it so much on the chin for the rest of us. You really can’t keep a good man down.
Jay Boo says
Misery loves company.
Hearts full of darkness grasping at Islam’s bleak bitter emptiness.
Jerry says
Hearts full of darkness grasping at Islam’s bleak bitter emptiness…
… and confusion over islam’s hateful distress
Cries of dead souls we hear in the night,
voices of conscience to show us the light
A world torn asunder by islam’s hateful dread,
a painful reminder, our loved ones now dead
Terror more terror we see every day,
as they live their creed of “infidels we slay.”
Babies, dear mothers, our friends too
all gone, murdered for the hatred they do
But hark!…
A small voice, a voice I do hear,
it’s the voice of reason drawing near
Small at first it stands alone,
speaking the truth in a courageous tone
A light begins to shine wherever it stands,
others gather ’round with helping hands
Courage now grows where fear once stood,
and heroes are born to fight for the good
Girded for battle, and sure of their ways,
infidels fight so Liberty stays,
where she has always stood,
for peace and the common good
God Bless America!
(Even though I don’t believe in god. But it’s America, I can say that! lol)
Your first line sounded so poetic, I had to give it a try. 🙂
Keys says
Inspired by something, Jerry! The Muses?
Bravo! ?
Jay Boo says
Great poem.
If only we could get liberal colleges on board to include it in their Islamic Studies as a counter balance to their PC filtering.
Mark Swan says
He Who Is Without Sin…Let Him Cast The First Stone
Lynne says
They way that Muslim women grow up, they would never practise adultery. They would be too frightened. This woman was probably raped.
Jay Boo says
Logical Conclusion
The sad irony is that Muslims will insist that this is an aberration when in fact, it is actually the (logical conclusion) of an ideology that is so shallow that it has to continually find someone to hate in order to justify its mere existence.
Mark Swan says
Just Existing Sure Is Not Living…is it Jay Boo
Jerry says
Well heck, if even “monkeys” practiced stoning then who are we to complain?
Every mosque is a poop stain on our culture, that’s where these barbaric teachings and traditions are propagated. If they removed from their religion all the infidel hate and inhumane practices then it would cease to exist. So we know it must be the case that on some level these traditions and divine “truths” are taught and nurtured within the islamic community. It would be ludicrous to think that islamic tradition in western mosques has nothing to do with that faith’s core tenets, jihad most notably. Muslims’ bad intent is intrinsic to their religion. It is their private code of morals that justifies their war-like attitude against non-muslims and thousands are getting murdered because of it.
There can be no favorable conclusion for me in regard to this faith or its people. There is nothing in the muslim experience that tells me they are anything but a threat to our nation, our culture, and our freedoms. If they want to live like “monkeys,” then let them live with the animals where they belong.
Jay Boo says
Yes, Muhammad was inspired by monkeys
Jerry says
Yeah, islam’s world, what a nightmare. Ya gotta wonder how dumb a person would have to be to mistake this deluded nonsense as divine revelation. Even a child knows better, until they get brainwashed by their elders. There should be a law against this kind of stupid aggression in the name of religion.
Cecilia Ellis says
Jay Boo. that is a great video! Very well done and very informative.
Jerry says
Here’s some monkeys stealing. This may be how they learned jihad.
https://youtu.be/oq2mykyhl-0
Jay Boo says
I am glad you liked it Cecilia
There is more at the CrossMuslims site.
One of Jihad Watches regular commenters (Salah) used to regularly post links to the CrossMuslims site.
I must take my hat off to Salah for this inspiration.
Champ says
Great video, Jay Boo! ..thanks 🙂
Panmelia says
It’s like like watching people who still live in the stone age. islam is the most backward, retarded, unenlightened, ridiculous and abhorrent religion on this planet.
sham says
Any penal law can be said to be practicable if it exhibits the
following qualities:
1. It becomes a retribution for the crime committed.
2. It prevents crime.
3. It serves to create a sense of dread in criminals.
4. It serves to assuage the feelings of the victims who have
undergone privations.
5. It seeks to refine and transform the criminal.
6. It provides for the compensation of those who suffered losses
due to the crime.
7. It seeks to make the criminal repent his deed.
8. It seeks to protect the society from crime and disorder.
All of these qualitative functions may be seen to be fulfilled by
any of the penal laws in Islam. It can thus be said without a shadow of
doubt, that they are, indeed, practicable.
Sex is a divine gift. Its foremost function amongst living creature
is reproduction. It is also true that in the case of man, besides
reproduction, his mental health, shappiness of family life , peacefull
social life : all are linked to sexuality. In availing of a sexual behaviour
that is not in keeping with the divine guidelines, the mental health of
the individual, solidarity of the family and social structure will be
adversely affected. Moreover, such extra-marital relations will lead
to the affliction by sexually transmitted diseases which will eventually
end in the degeneration of society. Indeed, those who have learned of
this through experience have been the very people who claim for
themselves the status of being the spokespersons of modern civilisation.
Islam teaches that if two individuals are to have sexual relations
with each other they are to do so only through the contract of marriage.
Apart from that all other relations are bound to create problems and
damage. It will also destroy the very fabric of all values in society. It
will cast the seeds of suspicion within one’s marital life. Such suspicion
will then create cracks within the rapport between hearts. It disrupts
family relations – it will even gravely affect the mental health of future
generations.
The greatest social problem there continues to be the girls who
become pregnant at a very tender age. Another important issue with
which the government continues to grapple is the problem of illegitimate
children. However the situation there is such that these issues are not
considered as problematic at all. Social scientists, however, warn that
such violations of behavioural norms lead to the collapse of the institution
of the family and consequently create social problems of a grave nature
which will, in the long run, end in the total chaos and destruction of the
western world.
Islam has never envisioned such a society. Islam has striven for
the creation of a society wherein a peaceful family environment and
marital relationship prevails.
To that end, Islam considers that all sexual relations outside of
wedlock are to be prohibited. For that reason the Qur’an recommends
strict penal laws which serve to eliminate such sexual relations.
Conceding the fact that the sexual impulse is, indeed, one of the most
powerful of instincts, it is necessary, nevertheless, to check man, in
the exercise of that impulse, with equally compelling measures. Indeed,
herein lies the great relevance of the punishments in the Qur’an.
Angemon says
sham posted:
“Any penal law can be said to be practicable if it exhibits the
following qualities:”
According to whom?
“1. It becomes a retribution for the crime committed.”
How is being stoned to death a retribution for two adults engaging in consensual sex?
“4. It serves to assuage the feelings of the victims who have
undergone privations.”
Who is the victim in the “crime” of two grown adults having consensual sex outside marriage?
“5. It seeks to refine and transform the criminal.”
Exactly how the people who were stoned were “refined and transformed”?
“6. It provides for the compensation of those who suffered losses
due to the crime.”
Again, who’s the victim when two adults have consensual sex? And how does killing them compensates the victim?
“7. It seeks to make the criminal repent his deed.”
And then they die, thus making their redemption meaningless – if they do repent.
“All of these qualitative functions may be seen to be fulfilled by
any of the penal laws in Islam.”
No, they don’t.
“Islam teaches that if two individuals are to have sexual relations
with each other they are to do so only through the contract of marriage.”
Can homosexuals marry under islamic law?
“The greatest social problem there continues to be the girls who
become pregnant at a very tender age.”
Citation needed. Plus, islam allows marrying 9-year-old girls with creepy old muslim men (but I repeat myself). Doesn’t that make pregnancy at an early age an endemic problem in islam?
“Another important issue with
which the government continues to grapple is the problem of illegitimate
children.”
Citation needed.
“However the situation there is such that these issues are not
considered as problematic at all.”
What the f***? You just told us that they were. You even called one of them “the greatest social problem there”.
“Social scientists, however, warn that
such violations of behavioural norms lead to the collapse of the institution
of the family and consequently create social problems of a grave nature
which will, in the long run, end in the total chaos and destruction of the
western world.”
Citation needed.
“Islam has never envisioned such a society. Islam has striven for
the creation of a society wherein a peaceful family environment and
marital relationship prevails.”
That’s why islam allows me to beat their wives.
“To that end, Islam considers that all sexual relations outside of
wedlock are to be prohibited.”
Unless you’re raping a sex slave:
quran 4:24
And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.
“For that reason the Qur’an recommends
strict penal laws which serve to eliminate such sexual relations.”
And therefore, if a woman wants to report a rape, she needs to have four male witnesses to the assault, otherwise her rapist will walk away scot-free and shel be killed for having sex outside marriage.
“Conceding the fact that the sexual impulse is, indeed, one of the most
powerful of instincts, it is necessary, nevertheless, to check man, in
the exercise of that impulse, with equally compelling measures.”
And to check man, islamic orthodoxy orders women to cover themselves up under penalty of being raped by muslim men who can’t control their impulses. Or who have been told that under islamic law – the law you’re lauding and gloating about – they’re free to rape uncovered women, because they’re whores.
“Indeed,
herein lies the great relevance of the punishments in the Qur’an.”
Where is the stoning verse in the quran? Because I’ve read that nasty little piece of fan-fiction and I can’t find it anywhere. It’s like muhammad’s favourite sex slave goat ate it or something…
Angemon says
typo correction: where it reads
it should read
Panmelia says
Where do you live, ‘Sham’? If you live in a muslim hellhole, don’t try preaching to people who live in a civilised nation. If you live in a civilised Western democratic country, go back to your muslim hellhole and enjoy the stonings or other barbaric punishments you’re likely to see there. Saudi is good for public floggings and beheadings.
The koran is a collection of unpleasant imagined conversations between psycho mo and his sick mind, so don’t come the islamic scholar and try to justify the poison that poured from the paedophile ‘prophet’.
sham says
” civilised nation ”
Total crimes: Countries Compared
RANK COUNTRIES AMOUNT
1 United States 11.88 million
2 United Kingdom 6.52 million
3 Germany 6.51 million
4 France 3.77 million
5 Russia 2.95 million
6 Japan 2.85 million
7 South Africa2.68 million
8 Canada 2.52 million
9 Italy 2.23 million
10 India 1.76 million
nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Total-crimes
Murders per Year by Country
1. India 37,170
2. Russia 28,904
3. Colombia 26,539
4. South Africa 21,995
5. Mexico 13,829
6. United States 12,658
7. Venezuela 8,022
8. Thailand 5,140
9. Ukraine 4,418
juancole.com/
UN Rape Statistics:
RANK
1 United States of America 93883
2 Australia 18237
3 United Kingdom 13272
4 France 10408
5 Germany 8766
6 Russian Federation 8185
wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics
Divorce rate (most recent) by country
Rank Countries Amount
#1 United States: 4.95 per 1,000 people
#2 Puerto Rico: 4.47
#3 Russia: 3.36
#4 United Kingdom: 3.08
#5 Denmark: 2.81
#6 New Zealand: 2.63
#7 Australia: 2.52
# 8 Canada: 2.46
#9 Finland: 1.85
#10 Barbados: 1.21
nationmaster.com/graph/peo_div_rat-people-divorce-rate
Child sex tourism :
Thailand : 40% of prostitutes are child in Thailand
Northern Italy: 40% of prostitution affects minors.
Cambodia: 1/3 of prostitutes are child
India : 1.2 million child prostitutes
Brazil: 1.2 million child prostitutes
United States: Between 244,000 to 325,000 child prostitutes.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sex_tourism
I DON’T LIKE TO LIVE THE COUNTRIES ” THAT MUCH CIVILIZED “
Lexa456 says
Idiot.
Saudi Arabia and other Islamic Nations aren’t in your Statistics because most of the things that are considered as crimes in the civilized world, are not considered as such in those countries. Slavery and physical abuse of slaves (Saudi Arabia), Child molestation and rape via muslim “marriage”, Child murder by “husbands” in “marriage bed” (bleeding to death after sexual intercourse), physical abuse for “disobedient behaviour” by husbands and families, murder of homosexuals, murder of disobedient daughters, wives and mothers (honor killings)… All of this is legitimated by the koran and is not considered a crime in Islam World. Stop defending this barbaric idiology. Muslims don’t have hearts and souls. They’re puppets of the koran. Stupid little degenerated morons.
And also. Let me tell you something about Sweden. It was a very wealthy, liberal, safe and lovable Country once. In 1975 it was established that the Country was wealthy enough to open it’s doors to anyone with a hope for a better life. In 2015 the Population has increased by 18,7 percent. In the last 15 years most immigrants were Muslims from Irak, Syria and Somalia. Since the beginning of the Immigration the criminal rate in Sweden has dramatically increased by 300 percent, the rape rate alone by 1472 !!!! percent. And several Research reports prove that only every 20th rapist was a native; most of the offenders are migrants. The latest trend in Sweden is the so-called gang rape, committed by muslim immigrants. Add all of this to the current ISIS and rapefugees activities all over the world, you must see who the real savages are.
Jay Boo says
sham wrote.
“To that end, Islam considers that all sexual relations outside of
wedlock are to be prohibited.”
sham did not bother to mention that his penis worshipping cult puts most of the responsibility on the women.
[The Muslim male]
is allowed child brides, 4 wives plus additional ‘temporary wives’ (prostitution), assorted sex slaves and 72 virgins.
[The Muslim woman]
Is allowed to divorce her lecherous husband
(But only if he gives his permission)
What else should we have expected from a pedophile pimping prophet of a penis cult?
Keys says
@sham
“Islam considers that all sexual relations outside of
wedlock are to be prohibited”
So do most other religions and societies, but most all do not kill offenders.
Barbaric and savage is what Islam’s followers do for Allah – not goodness. What kind of god is pleased with this horror? Allah smiles at murder? Don’t be fooled – many will perish following the teaching of false prophets. God means good and life. Allah means evil and death.
Unharden your heart! Is not Allah also merciful? How do you know he does not desire you to be merciful?
Ginger says
Slight correction to the text. It’s not hundreds of people watching, it’s hundreds of men. Of course, one has to take into account that women are not considered to be people.
sham says
Leviticus 20:13
13 ‘If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
“If a man is found sleeping with another man’s wife, both
the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must
purge the evil from Israel.” (Deuteronomy 22:22)
Paul says
What Jews or Christians live by those tenets today?
Jesus Christ has the final say in the New Testament, whereas
the later violent, abrogated verses in the koran are applicable
for all times. Of course, you already know this.
sham says
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)”
Panmelia says
So what? Who cares what some bloodthirsty rabbi wrote in Leviticus? Not even the Jews take notice of that nonsense today, or if they do, they don’t go round killing people.
Why don’t you try a religion that has developed and reformed over 1400 years, instead of one started by a power-hungry, sex-mad malcontent who either suffered from auditory hallucinations or made up his chats with a ‘god’ in order to justify his own desires and lusts? Then he put the curse of death on anyone who dared question or challenge anything he said. What a lock-in!
You’ve been brainwashed, mate, and you don’t even know it. Did you believe in all that stuff when you were a baby or toddler? Of course not, it was dinned into you by other indoctrinated victims, as they themselves had been indoctrinated as far back as you want to go. It’s sad.
Kepha says
I’m not going to say that adultery and homosexuality are not heinous sins in the eyes of God. Indeed, maybe our post-Christian Western culture has become overly tolerant of evil. We have the big oregonian donor to Obama’s campaigns and gay rights activist, Terry Bean, getting off the hook by a big civil damages payola to a sixteen-year-old boy to avoid criminal charges over child molestation (boy, were those offending RC dioceses stupid–sarc); and lots of Western Pervs telling themselves that what they do in Bangkok, Phuket, and Manila is “just helping poor families”.
And, in a nod to the Dar-ul-Islam, I understand that one of the “rules” of Bacha Bazi in Afghanistan is that the man ultimately has to help the boy (when he gets old enough) find a wife and hold a respectable wedding feast. Perhaps it is comparable to what the sterling progressive Terry Bean did in Oregon, and certainly superior to the mere predations of Harvey Milk, who is now honored on a postage stamp.
Then again, to play tu quoque,Sham, there was a Libyan judge who once explained that the reason they did not hand out a lot of hudud punishments was because if they did, most men and boys in Libya would be walking around without hands.
Jay Boo says
Muhammad committed adultery many times.
1 He had more than one wife.
2 He even had more than 4.
3 He had sex slaves on the side.
4 He boinked his own daughter in law.
5 He murdered husbands and had sex with their wives and underage children.
Mo spent much more time humping Allah and sex slaves than praying to Allah.
Champ says
“sham” is a liar. Nowadays only muslims stone people.
This is how Jesus responded to the woman caught in adultery …
https://youtu.be/rFyymEvM6Dw
Walter Sieruk says
About such heartless callousness as the ruthless stoning to death of those two helpless people because they were changed with adultery .The is malice violence enacted by the members of ISIS who are likewise followers of Islam The men of ISIS in their self-righteous Islamic conceit are sharp contrast to the loving and merciful Jesus . For Jesus in His Wisdom saved the life of a women about to be stoned to death because she was charges with adultery .As seen in John 8:3-11. Wow ! What a great and outstanding difference between the malicious Islam [ISIS] mindset and the loving merciful and loving Wisdom of Jesus. Furthermore, about that brutal and deadly jihad entity ISIS. Most people know that the head and chief of that is a man who goes by the name of al Baghdadi By contrast, what few people seem to know is that al Baghdadi is just a figurehead and a puppet rulers of ISIS. That the actual and real head and chief of that heinous and dangerous jihad organization is someone else. Who that “someone else” has been exposed in the book entitled THE ISIS CRISIS by Charles Dyer. For on page 166 the author explains that “The ultimate commander of ISIS remains unseen by most of his followers, but he is not unknown. This commander is Satan himself… Satan moves across the earth ‘like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.’ [First Peter 5:8.] Therefore, the vicious jihadist thugs who compose ISIS are, in realty, vicious, malicious and deluded fools who are being use by Satan, as his stooges and tools, to inflict demonic murderous harm on humankind. So must so that those violent wicked and insanely deluded jihad savages who make up ISIS are like those callous characters described in the Bible in Ecclesiastes 9:3. That teaches “The hearts of men are full of evil and there is madness in their hearts while they live, and afterwards they join the dead.” In addition, those malice-filled fiendish jihadists of ISIS are so very bloodthirstily, ruinous dangerous and murderous that they are similar to, in character, the hideous villains described in the Bible. Which reads “Their feet are swift to shed blood: ruin and misery mark their ways, and the way of peace they do not know.” Romans 3:15-17. [N.I.V.]
Keys says
“Their feet are swift to shed blood: ruin and misery mark their ways, and the way of peace they do not know.” Romans 3:15-17. [N.I.V.]
Perfect selection, Walter. Fits Islam very well.
Clarence Feinour says
Move along please, nothing here to do with Islam. Isn’t that correct Mr. Obama?
Jay Boo says
Dear Jay Boo,
You are so wrong about Muslims.
I had to write you this letter to tell you how much I am enjoying Middle East hospitality
The Islamic spirit here is very infectious tonight.
I feel such interfaith excitement so deep within my bones.
As a special guest of honor, I am dressed in my spotless modest white. up here alone on their prepared stage.
Everyone is each hoping to find just the right spot. Muslims are circling around with pious expressions. How could I dare resist making a very personal connection?
It is such a relief to know this event is alcohol free. Nothing will be broken; it’s a sacred celebration. No one will get drunk. No one will get stoned. Everybody will chant, until I can’t help but moan.
These Muslims have pmomised to let me share in their old ritual game. No one will stumble; each will take careful aim.Tonight I will be the target of their affection; that is their ritual’s goal, or so I am told. It is in honor of the black stone that represents the light shining deep within their souls.
It is such a great privilege; I can’t even begin to mention. I am so proud to be the center of their undivided attention and to have been chosen to share in their faith. Listen at how the crowd shouts their “god is so great.” Defenders of Allah’s honor need not have humility or even grace.
But I do wonder why the imam clutches that book so tight? The poor man can barely contain his delight. These religious leaders are so full of faith. So full of it, that they even say we can coexist and celebrate. Let’s all join together and enjoy this ceremonial fling.
But, why is everyone now holding a stone?
I would go to ask, but I am a little tied up here in the center alone.
Ouch that hurts. Gosh that stings.
But, yet I am so happy to make Muslim friends that I can’t help but sing.
♬ ♬ There is a party going on right here, a celebration to last throughout the year
Celebrate good times come on… Celebrate good times come on
cause everything’s going to be alright
It’s time to come together, let’s celebrate, everyone around the world
Yahoo! ♬
♬ ♬ Come on…It’s a celebration
Yahoo!…Yahoo ♪♫♬♩♪♫♬”
Keys says
Like Christian TBN, EWTN, INSP, or TCC there needs to be a Muslim cable tv channel.
Taqiyya TV would not be good, but how about ASLIM TV (Allah’s Sharia Law Is Merciful) broadcasting Islamic justice world-wide 24/7.
Islamic States and groups like ISIS, Boco Haram, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. could broadcast Sharia sentences, especially the floggings, bombings, decapitations, hangings, immolations, stonings, and hand loppings.
Surprised the Saudi’s haven’t paid for this to happen! Best to keep it under the keffiyeh for now, I guess. Maybe after the world submits.
Sarc off.
Matthieu Baudin says
Traditional Islam condones adultery but under different names. Forced sex with married Christian or other non Muslim married women is adultery, which places Islamic practices and values in this area in a basket with hypocrites and two faced sleazy bastards.
Southeuropean says
God bless the USA and the next president who’s gonna be a Christian,for sure. He will swipe these bastards in no-time. Islamofascism is gonna fall in this century with a big crash.