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Pennsylvania imam who said Hirsi Ali should be killed leads interfaith service

Apr 24, 2016 9:11 pm By Robert Spencer

The non-Muslims who participated in this interfaith service were being played for fools, but that is true of most, if not all, “dialogue” between Muslims and non-Muslims. Meanwhile, those who are shocked that Fouad ElBayly turns out to be an “extremist” need to be aware that the death penalty for apostasy is mainstream Islam:

“They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah. But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper.” (Qur’an 4:89)

A hadith depicts Muhammad saying: “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him” (Bukhari 9.84.57). The death penalty for apostasy is part of Islamic law according to all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence.

This is still the position of all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence, both Sunni and Shi’ite. Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the most renowned and prominent Muslim cleric in the world, has stated: “The Muslim jurists are unanimous that apostates must be punished, yet they differ as to determining the kind of punishment to be inflicted upon them. The majority of them, including the four main schools of jurisprudence (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi’i, and Hanbali) as well as the other four schools of jurisprudence (the four Shiite schools of Az-Zaidiyyah, Al-Ithna-‘ashriyyah, Al-Ja’fariyyah, and Az-Zaheriyyah) agree that apostates must be executed.”

Qaradawi also once famously said: “If they had gotten rid of the apostasy punishment, Islam wouldn’t exist today.”

Fouad ElBayly2

“Imam Who Threatened Ayaan Hirsi Ali with Death for Apostasy Led Interfaith Service After Paris Attacks,” by Patrick Poole, PJ Media, April 23, 2016 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

A Pennsylvania imam who was fired last year by the Bureau of Prisons for his claims that author and Harvard lecturer Ayaan Hirsi Ali deserved to be killed under Islamic law for apostatizing from Islam recently led an interfaith prayer service after the ISIS attacks in Paris last November.

Fouad ElBayly, the imam at the Islamic Center of Johnstown, led the Nov. 21 prayer event, where he said:

The Islamic Center of Johnstown and all the Muslim communities in our region condemn the evil doing of the people who carried out that terrible attack against innocent people.

This is similar to the statements he made at a March 2002 prayer service for the 9/11 victims on United Flight 93, which crashed in Shanksville, PA, not far from ElBayly’s mosque:

Imam Fouad El Bayly of the Islamic Center of Johnstown and Somerset asked people to be tolerant. He said the Muslim extremists who hijacked the plane also hijacked the Islamic faith.

“In the name of God, in the name of peace, in the name of brotherhood, in the name of mankind, let there be peace,” he said. “We cannot condemn a nation, a religion, for the acts of a few.”

But peace and tolerance are are apparently hard concepts for ElBayly to follow himself.

Last year he was fired as a Bureau of Prisons chaplain at the Federal Correctional Institute of Cumberland, MD, after it was reported he was hired under a $10,500 February 2014 federal contract despite his 2007 comments calling for the killing of Ayaan Hirsi Ali. He later received another $2,400 contract to teach Islam in the same federal prison in December 2014….

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  1. Angemon says

    Apr 24, 2016 at 9:22 pm

    Last year he was fired as a Bureau of Prisons chaplain at the Federal Correctional Institute of Cumberland, MD, after it was reported he was hired under a $10,500 February 2014 federal contract despite his 2007 comments calling for the killing of Ayaan Hirsi Ali. He later received another $2,400 contract to teach Islam in the same federal prison in December 2014….

    There’s always a market for a token “moderate” muslim – no background check or proof of moderation necessary…

    • Jay Boo says

      Apr 24, 2016 at 9:30 pm

      Wow
      He was hired:

      “despite his 2007 comments calling for the killing of Ayaan Hirsi Ali”

      • Shane says

        Apr 25, 2016 at 10:59 am

        Another fake moderate Muslim exposed as a bloodthirsty savage. We just cannot trust any Muslims as their religion allows them to lie to infidels.

  2. Jay Boo says

    Apr 24, 2016 at 9:28 pm

    He might better had said,

    “If they had gotten rid of Islam, — (the apostasy punishment)– wouldn’t exist today.”

  3. Jerry says

    Apr 24, 2016 at 9:36 pm

    It’s awfully hard for me to reconcile death for apostasy and “let there be peace.” These are hopelessly incompatible concepts. There can be no peace with those who advocate murder for religion. That’s a kind of fundamentalism we can live without. Behind those suits & ties and beguiling smiles there hides a devil for allah. It’s not normal to ask “people to be tolerant ” but also advocate murder for bigoted reasons. That’s a moral discordance you might find in serial killer or a rapist. These people are highly educated but morally insane, thanks to their religious indoctrination. This presents a real-world threat for us in the west. We the people should have a say in how our nation deals with this toxic and dangerous ideology. If our leaders think that the best course to take with this is appeasement then we must educate them to better action. And if they can’t step up to the plate with conviction for our concerns then they will be replaced with others who can.

    • Westman says

      Apr 25, 2016 at 2:33 pm

      “If our leaders think that the best course to take with this is appeasement then we must educate them to better action.”

      The evidence for leaders is national goals that the citizens have been asked to support. Can any of us name one? We don’t have leaders, we have poll-driven professional politicians feeding their egos and wallets at the public trough.

      Until we change this at the congressional level there will only be response to crisis and no national goals.

      This current laissez-faire (more like lazy-fare) appeasement is based on polling the citizens. When the citizens threaten to find other “leaders”, then action begins. Too many Senators retire due to old age.

      • Jerry says

        Apr 26, 2016 at 2:28 pm

        That’s right, these politicians no longer represent the people. They represent their own self-interests. We need some fundamental changes in how our nation conducts politics.

  4. JawsV says

    Apr 24, 2016 at 11:18 pm

    Coincidentally, I’m reading “Infidel” by Hirsi Ali right now. I recommend it to all Jihad Watchers.

    • LR says

      Apr 25, 2016 at 12:27 am

      I read it all those years ago, when it came out. I highly recommend it too.

      I remember the news story of poor Theo, and how they said he was pleading for his life with his evil murderer. (He was named after his paternal Uncle, who was captured and executed by the Nazi’s working as a resistance fighter).

      I’ve always loved the story of Vincent and Theo. It was awful to hear about their heir, Theo.

      RIP all you beautiful Van Gogh’s.

    • ECAW says

      Apr 25, 2016 at 5:26 am

      I preferred her as an infidel than as a heretic, which it seems she has now become:

      https://www.amazon.co.uk/Heretic-Why-Islam-Needs-Reformation/dp/0062333933/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1461576177&sr=1-3&keywords=ayaan+hirsi+ali

  5. Billy Lynch says

    Apr 25, 2016 at 12:56 am

    THIS is the only kind of dialogue Christians should have with Muslims. Great video of LA Street preacher Ruben Israel telling Muslims outside a mosque that they are headed for hell because (even though they see Jesus as a “prophet”) they reject Him as the Son of God:

  6. firefoxhits says

    Apr 25, 2016 at 8:49 am

    Yes it is.
    Incitement to murder.
    Conspiracy.
    Sedition.
    Hate.
    Racism.
    If the will was there a charge could be made.
    But our spineless politicians and gutless prosecutors will not enforce the law.
    Vote in only those who will fight this invasion of barbarians and the cancerous scourge of Islam.

  7. Hummer says

    Apr 25, 2016 at 10:29 am

    I think Ali Hirsi is very courageous but must come to realize reformation cannot be-this is not Christianity and the only apparent “moderate” is really in essence taqiyya or being an apostate. We are in a war with this barbaric totalitarian ideology whether we like to accept that fact or not-that is the reality and has been so for 1400 years.

    • Kepha says

      Apr 25, 2016 at 10:34 pm

      You can have all kinds of Reformations. The Christian Reformation of the 16th century was a retreat from church tradition towards the Scriptures. Islam has also had its movements to exalt Scripture at the expense of tradition, as with the ‘Ibadi and the Wahabbi. Hence, it’s safe to say that Islam has undergone reformation at various points in its history.

      The question is, if a religion wants to stress its Scriptural sources over accumulated tradition, what do those Scriptures actually say? You can distill a fundamentally peaceful religion if your Scriptures are the Old and New Testaments; I’m not sure you can get it if your Scriptures are the Qur’an and Hadith.

  8. Fessitude says

    Apr 25, 2016 at 5:38 pm

    Imam El-Bayly is like the wolf in the Aesop’s Fables episode (from the Rocky & Bullwinkle Show, PBUThem) “The Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing” who puts on a sheep cloth that doesn’t even cover half of his wolfish face and body (but yet, art imitates jihad, for in the episode, the sheep accept him without hesitation when he infiltrates…).

  9. Kathy Brown, Esq. says

    Apr 25, 2016 at 9:03 pm

    Indeed it is.

    8 USC $1182 (a)(B)(I-VI) specifically forbids any person from even entering these United States, if they’re engaged in terrorist activity. It’s spelled out.

    However: As firefox states above, you need a charging agent. You know, an actual DOJ. Which we don’t have. Instead, we have a DOJ which trips over itself to constantly declare that nothing about islam should even be spoken of, as ‘terrorist’.

  10. Angemon says

    Apr 26, 2016 at 8:23 am

    Weren’t those already covered when you said “I now consider muslims and the majority of Americans and other Westerners to be my mortal enemies”? Or do you have some sort of fetish that requires you to call someone your “mortal enemy” every once in a while?

    • Angemon says

      Apr 26, 2016 at 8:26 am

      This was a reply, using the “reply” button in notification emails, to a post that’s apparently no longer here.

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