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Raymond Ibrahim: How Islam Erased Christianity from History

Apr 26, 2016 9:43 am By Raymond Ibrahim

Hena al-Kaldani

While Christianity continues to be physically erased from the Middle East, lesser known is that its historical role and presence is also being expunged from memory.

Last month a video emerged showing Islamic State members tossing hundreds of Christian textbooks, many of them emblazoned with crosses, into a large bonfire.   As one report put it, ISIS was “burning Christian textbooks in an attempt to erase all traces of” Christianity from the ancient region of Mosul, where Christianity once thrived for centuries before the rise of Islam.

As usual, ISIS is ultimately an extreme example of Islam’s normative approach.  This was confirmed during a recent conference in Amman, Jordan hosted by the Jerusalem Center for Political Studies. While presenting, Dr. Hena al-Kaldani, a Christian, said that “there is a complete cancellation of Arab Christian history in the pre-Islamic era,” “many historical mistakes,” and “unjustifiable historic leaps in our Jordanian curriculum.”  “Tenth grade textbooks omit any mention of any Christian or church history in the region.”  Wherever Christianity is mentioned, omissions and mischaracterizations proliferate, including the portrayal of Christianity as a Western (that is, “foreign”) source of colonization, said al-Kaldani.

Of course, Christian minorities throughout the Middle East—not just in Jordan—have long maintained that the history taught in public classrooms habitually suppresses the region’s Christian heritage while magnifying (including by lying about) Islam.

“It sounds absurd, but Muslims more or less know nothing about Christians, even though they make up a large part of the population and are in fact the original Egyptians,” said Kamal Mougheeth, a retired teacher in Egypt: “Egypt was Christian for six or seven centuries [before the Muslim invasion around 640].  The sad thing is that for many years the history books skipped from Cleopatra to the Muslim conquest of Egypt.  The Christian era was gone.  Disappeared.  An enormous black whole.”

This agrees perfectly with what I recall my parents, Christians from Egypt, telling me of their classroom experiences from more than half a century ago: there was virtually no mention of Hellenism, Christianity, or the Coptic Church—one thousand years of Egypt’s pre-Islamic history. History began with the pharaohs before jumping to the seventh century when Arabian Muslims “opened” Egypt to Islam. (Wherever Muslims conquer non-Muslim territories, Islamic hagiography euphemistically refers to it as an “opening,” fath, never a “conquest.”)

Sharara Yousif Zara, an influential politician involved in the Iraqi Ministry of Education agrees: “It’s the same situation in Iraq.  There’s almost nothing about us [Christians] in our history books, and what there is, is totally wrong.  There’s nothing about us being here before Islam.  The only Christians mentioned are from the West.  Many Iraqis believe we moved here.  From the West.  That we are guests in this country.”

Zara might be surprised to learn that similar ignorance and historical revisionism predominates in the West.  Although Christians are in fact the most indigenous inhabitants of most of the Arab world, I am often asked, by educated people, why Christians “choose” to go and live in the Middle East among Muslims, if the latter treat them badly… Keep Reading 

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  1. Berengaria says

    Apr 26, 2016 at 9:54 am

    Christianity is being wiped out of history, because of the failure of the pope & our other “Christian leaders”. Even our secular leaders have submitted to the “Religion of Peace”. All according to the plan by HW Bush(President) & the old Soddy King. Each successive President has gone along with the plan, especially our Muslim in the WH now.

    • Susan B says

      Apr 26, 2016 at 10:12 am

      The Pope is speaking about a one world religion which of course would be without Christ; a man made cheap knockoff with no connection to God. The Pope is NWO and I am beginning to believe an anti-christ. How any sane person can give islam with a doctrine to conquer and convert by force any credence as having any connection to God is mind boggling.

      http://www.trunews.com/pope-francis-calls-for-one-world-religion/

      • Ray Makabali says

        Apr 26, 2016 at 5:55 pm

        Same thoughts here.

      • Carolyne says

        Apr 27, 2016 at 9:09 am

        I have longed believed that the Pope–the last few except Benedict (Which is probably why he had to go) have been the embodiment of an antichrist. I don’t believe that there is an actual antihrist, but I do believe in evil and to me, Popes are in the main, evil. There are a few exceptions, however, and Benedict spoke out about Islam and then he had to go. Surprisingly, though. they let him live.

    • Christianblood says

      Apr 26, 2016 at 10:43 am

      Raymond Ibrahim:

      (…In the end, of course, the Muslim world’s historical approach to Christianity should be familiar. After all, doesn’t the West engage in the same chicanery? In both instances, Christianity is demonized and its history distorted by its usurping enemies: in the West, by a host of “isms”—including leftism, moral relativism, and multiculturalism—and in the Middle East, by Islam…)

      Indeed! Very true and very well-said Raymond Ibrahim! Anti-Christian, pro islamic and atheistic moral relativists in the West like the ones who just yesterday announced to banning the celebration of St. George’s Day in the UK and the “Piss Christ” who placed Saint Marry’s image and a Cross in jar full of urine a few years back are good example of this. More below: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ

      • Angemon says

        Apr 26, 2016 at 11:15 am

        “Saint Marry”

        >_<

        I remember the days when trolls would at least bother to check facts and build a coherent narrative. Of course, that was when they were doing so out of personal interest, not when they had a quota to fulfil…

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 26, 2016 at 10:09 pm

        “Christianblood” wrote:

        …and the “Piss Christ” who placed Saint Marry’s (sic) image and a Cross in jar full of urine…
        ………………………….

        No, this is not actually the case. “Christianblood” seems to be conflating things. But then, when has he ever been concerned about accuracy?

    • FJ says

      Apr 30, 2016 at 6:04 pm

      False Christianity has a record of doing that to other nations too. The white Christian settlers in Australia used Latin Terra Nullius to say the land was empty of people. In fact the Aborigine tribes of Australia were disenfranchised by Greed. Most native people groups were called NATIVE because they were there if not first had dominated the lands.

      This is why you find so many (if they are not aware of the Light of Jesus/Y’shua) turn to fight against Christians by accepting Islam which has a lot of attraction for disenfranchised young males without discernment of history & deep generational wounds. We should always be kind to our neighbours & not move boundary markers.
      Blessings. FJ

  2. Marken says

    Apr 26, 2016 at 10:03 am

    It is the same as if in a possible future scenario, non-muslim Europeans would be asked why they chose to ‘move’ to Europe if they are so badly treated by muslims! A time where the heritages of Europe would be so effectively erased that the statement would be made in all seriousness: I didn’t know Europe was once Christian. Yet westerners and others will say this about the middle east.

  3. rara says

    Apr 26, 2016 at 10:06 am

    One big problem the Christians directly attacked by Muslim faced was that the “western Christianity” didn’t care about the “eastern” Christians.

    Even now it still appears to be so.

    https://www.harpercollins.com/9780061472800/the-lost-history-of-christianity

    • rara says

      Apr 26, 2016 at 10:13 am

      “Christianity became predominantly European not because that continent had any affinity for that faith: Europe was the continent where it was not destroyed.”

    • Christianblood says

      Apr 26, 2016 at 6:00 pm

      Great book!

  4. Mo says

    Apr 26, 2016 at 10:18 am

    That’s why Western liberals always side with Islam. They loathe Christ and Christianity and Christians as much as jihadists do. They just don’t have the guts to murder us outright… yet.

    • Kepha says

      Apr 26, 2016 at 10:37 am

      Precisely. This is why when our history textbooks present the supposed wonders of early Islam, they neglect to note that Syriac was an important link in the chain of translation from the Greek classics to Arabic. Our own treatment of Egypt in the West also shows a “jump” from Cleopatra to Amr al-As.

      I would also note from the article above that the discussion of Jordan’s history shows another troubling lacuna: the erasure of Jewish an ancient Israelite history from that country’s curricula. After all, Moses died on Nebo, and the tribe of Reuben and half-tribe of Manasseh settled on Transjordanian land; starting a Jewish presence there that lasted well into medieval times at least. The early Christian history of Jordan is also one of “Hebrew Christians”, too.

      Further, when it comes to the preservation of the Classical tradition, to which idiots like Gibbon hoped to return by negating the entire Christian era lying between themselves and the supposed glories of Greece and Rome, it was Christianity’s use of the Greek and Latin languages which did more to preserve the Classical past than anything in the lands of Islam. And how much Greek and Latin do our post-modern [ms-]educators of the post-Christian young know or teach?

      • celticwarriorcanada says

        Apr 26, 2016 at 12:35 pm

        Excellent post Kepha! The Great Alexandrian Church was such a great example of this , with that great teacher and leader Clement and his student Origen , with their use of Greek and the classical Greek Philosophers particularly Plato ! And of course the great Tertullian in North Africa who used Latin which eventually took over as the language of the Western Catholics .Its truly deplorable that these Geniuses: Clement, Origen,Tertullian, Hippolytus,Augustine Etc are forgotten and their use and Preservation of the Classical Tradition to often ignored !

    • خَليفة says

      Apr 26, 2016 at 12:11 pm

      I agree, for liberals it’s about being anti-Christian, and the enemy of my enemy rule.

      The funny thing is how often the liberal left ignores certain facts.

      It is interesting that Robert Milliken ( split the atom ) became more and more religious after that. He is not alone in that phenomenon, many great scientists had religious epiphanies after some monumental work they accomplished.

      The liberal left mindset, like that of Muslims, is pride-based rather than fact-based.

      • linnte says

        Apr 26, 2016 at 3:46 pm

        Calipha, you are exactly right about Leftists. Everyone here is! Before I became a Christian or before I studied Islam, my favorite all time BASHING group were Christians! I am ashamed! It’s amazing what stepping outside the box (of Liberal ideology) will do for ones soul.

      • underbed cat says

        Apr 27, 2016 at 10:01 am

        Splitting the atom…how to judge this event. It seems at one point to unleash power so strong it can be used for evil….and at times I have pondered is this why Adam was warned not to take the fruit of knowledge, that is a dilemma. It has bothered me always, so I guess it is dependent on use.

        When I first was recently handed a Quran, I had goosebumps of some fear and had curiosity about what was reported to be 700 year old, and the word of God. I started to read, it is so different. What is Christian doctrine to struggle against evil, and to read about the “best of all people” and acceptance was a short relief. But then, the verses started to evolve to justification of some bad ideas. I struggled, is this good or bad, is this really true, how has it lasted, then the bad dark dreams came. So back to the Bible and the words of following the light, flee from evil, and to not be deceived, eventually showed a stark contrast. I will leave it at that, I do hope the world will flee from evil and follow the light.

        • underbed cat says

          Apr 27, 2016 at 12:27 pm

          Very interesting article how Christianity was erased from history and important to know, as we see the left also lead the way away from acknowledgement of the history.

    • Christianblood says

      Apr 26, 2016 at 6:05 pm

      Mo posted:

      (…That’s why Western liberals always side with Islam. They loathe Christ and Christianity and Christians as much as jihadists do…)

      Well-said Mo! The anti-Christ is one coin with two sides:
      The evil islamic jihadist side & The pernicious Western liberal moral relativist side.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 27, 2016 at 12:03 am

      Mo wrote:

      That’s why Western liberals always side with Islam. They loathe Christ and Christianity and Christians as much as jihadists do. They just don’t have the guts to murder us outright… yet.
      ……………………….

      Mo, Kepha, celticwarriorcanada, خَليفة, linnte, and Christianblood–I’m sorry, this is just mistaken.

      I live in the bluest-of-blue states, right in the heart of the San Francisco Bay Area. Sure, there’s a lot of stupid twitting of Christians here–but the idea that liberals want to *mass murder* Christians is just ridiculous.

      Kepha, the main reason there is so little knowledge of early Christian history is shoddy scholarship–all too many Americans have little understanding of European history–in many cases their grasp breaks down completely any further afield than that. They figure that since the Middle East and adjacent lands are Muslim now, that ’twas ever thus.

      As an academic, you should know this.

      This is a disgraceful state of affairs–but it is *very* different from the fantasy of liberals wanting to engage in genocidal slaughter.

      The main problem with liberals–I am not including hard leftists here, who are both uglier and rarer–is that they have a falsely rosy view of Islam as being just as decent as Christianity, but with spicier food.

      That is the main problem with clueless leftists–not that they are itching to murder anyone wearing a cross.

      • linnte says

        Apr 27, 2016 at 12:26 am

        I never wanted to murder Christians, but I certainly enjoyed bashing them. Like for instance, “prove me wrong- Jesus said that his followers would do greater miracles than he” yes? Why do children get cancer, people get raped, why did my best friend, a Christian, die from Multiple Sclerosis? Where was the church and why didn’t God heal her?” I never got an answer from ONE Christian.

        Now, I see why evil happens. Satan. Man, I hate that being!

        I agree that Leftists are wishy-washy about religion. But MANY my age or close, were raised with Christian values. They have separated the source from their “virtue”.

        • خَليفة says

          Apr 27, 2016 at 3:24 am

          “they have separated the source from the virtue” – that is an interesting idea which I think is exceptionally true – indeed those who separate the virtue from the source want the “virtue” without restriction or sacrifice – like so many people today who want freedom without responsibility. ( id est – do what ever you want to do with nothing ever being wrong or bad ) note: this is quintessential Islam – anything you do for the sake of Allah is ok

        • linnte says

          Apr 27, 2016 at 4:52 am

          Oh! It’s “having a form of godliness, but denying the power there of.” It almost makes me sad for Muslims. How can they possibly deny human nature? Inquisitiveness? Just to look into another aspect of life or dogma? Plain old curiosity! Do they ever ask “Why”? What a horrible existence.

        • Carolyne says

          Apr 27, 2016 at 9:32 am

          linnte, Are you saying that the Christian God is less powerful than your Satan, and that He/She is powerless to intervene in Satan’s doings?

          Otherwise, since He/She has the power, why does He/She allow your friends and many others to suffer and die when with a flick of the wrist, he could wipe all disease and evil in the world? Would a “Merciful” being do that?

        • linnte says

          Apr 27, 2016 at 4:24 pm

          No! I didn’t even BELIEVE Satan existed! Now I do, and it’s embodiment is Islam. No, I USED to harass Christians claiming their god was nonexistent because I never saw any miracles, is all. I was horrible to Christians. Satan will see his day and I think he will be even lower than the lowest in hell. And, btw, he is NOT MY Satan! He is Muhammad’s! I have just recently converted to Christianity. Thank Jesus!

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 27, 2016 at 5:04 pm

          linnte wrote:

          I never wanted to murder Christians, but I certainly enjoyed bashing them…
          ……………………

          I understand that, linnte–I’m so glad you are not in that space anymore! Still, as you note, you never actually wanted to harm Christians, and that is true of most liberals.

          Also–here, at least, we have many liberals who are also Christian. They are, for the most part, completely clueless about the Jihad threat, of course.

        • linnte says

          Apr 27, 2016 at 10:42 pm

          Thanks Dear Graven! Am so fond of you!

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 27, 2016 at 5:11 pm

          linnte wrote:

          I agree that Leftists are wishy-washy about religion. But MANY my age or close, were raised with Christian values. They have separated the source from their “virtue”.
          ………………………..

          Yes, linnte–much of the West is–and I hate this term–“post-Christian”, but does retain much of Christian values, albeit in a hazier, watered-down form.

          More:

          Oh! It’s “having a form of godliness, but denying the power there of.” It almost makes me sad for Muslims. How can they possibly deny human nature? Inquisitiveness? Just to look into another aspect of life or dogma? Plain old curiosity! Do they ever ask “Why”? What a horrible existence.
          ………………………..

          True–Muslims are actively discouraged from asking questions about their vile faith–no surprise there–and the use of reason is despised.

      • Mark Swan says

        Apr 27, 2016 at 7:08 am

        The famous Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution (ratified in 1791) reads: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”—which at the time meant the imposition of a “state church”, such as the Church of England—“or prohibiting the free exercise thereof….”

        More exactly, it was written to prevent government from imposing arbitrary religious values on society, as had happened repeatedly in continental Europe and Great Britain, and indeed throughout human history. This should make those who want to impose humanism arbitrarily on the United States think twice, for humanism is theoretically, practically and (in the U.S.) even legally a religion. True, it flatly denies the existence of the supernatural, but that denial is itself a religious (more broadly, a metaphysical) viewpoint.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 27, 2016 at 5:15 pm

          Actually, Mark, the original Humanists of the Italian Renaissance were all devout Christians.

        • Mark Swan says

          Apr 28, 2016 at 4:51 am

          Yes gravenimage thank You… and It might be said that it has always existed…because it’s root theme is human reasoning. The philosophy or life stance of secular humanism (alternatively known by some adherents as Humanism, specifically with a capital H to distinguish it from other forms of humanism)…perhaps I should have used the “H”.

          Secular humanism posits that human beings are capable of being ethical and moral without religion or a God…that is fine in itself…yet that hardly makes-up the majority of Americans…and their beliefs.

          We would be hard pressed to find many Christians today that are not effected by this in one form or another…thus the “Christian values, albeit in a hazier, watered-down form” to quote a good commenter.

          I guess all I wanted to point out was how reasonably we allow this Humanism in our schools and all public discourse in general…is it in fact the thing we call politically correct…yet there is so much not correct about it…certainly nothing reasonable and definitely it imposes by some a belief system on all.

          In the 1777 draft of Thomas Jefferson’s Bill for Religious Freedom in Virginia, we read what some students of law point to as the root ideas behind the Establishment Clause.

          After noting the harmful effects of trying to impose a religion on free men contrary to their free moral agency, Jefferson stated his belief that in matters of religion, truth would overcome error in human society if only government would stay out of the way. Since there is no such thing as a neutral stance on religious matters, Jefferson saw his approach as humanity’s only hope of attaining that truth, and had hope that humanity would do so.

          But Jefferson’s rationalism has long since been taken advantage of! If we were able to come to a consensus on true beliefs in the same way we can on scientific truth, surely
          by now there would be no belief conflicts anywhere! Instead, a system has been subtly…forcefully, and widely held-up as the belief system we must accept.

          Hoping that truth could overcome error in human society if only the government would stay out of the way…is the right thing to hope indeed.

          It does seem more difficult to un-learn errors than it is to just learn the truth.

  5. mortimer says

    Apr 26, 2016 at 10:24 am

    Those who do not know the past are doomed to repeat it.

    Totalitarians rely on historical amnesia to implement their programs.

    One of the most dangerous things in Western education is the near absence of historical knowledge among the young on the flimsy grounds that such knowledge is superfluous and unnecessary. We see with the extreme naivety among Western elites and voters that nothing could be further from the truth.

    The only way our present politicians could have gotten as far as they did is through a general lack of historical knowledge throughout society.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 27, 2016 at 12:08 am

      Mortimer wrote:

      One of the most dangerous things in Western education is the near absence of historical knowledge among the young on the flimsy grounds that such knowledge is superfluous and unnecessary.
      …………………….

      *Very* true, Mortimer. This is, in fact, why so many fail to understand the threat of Islam–they do not know its dark history.

    • SpiritOf1683 says

      Apr 27, 2016 at 5:24 pm

      Thats true. How many youngsters have heard of battles like Tours, Vienna, Adrianople, Zenta etc? Very few I’d reckon, yet had Christianity lost these battles, our world would have been very different indeed. As Edward Gibbon said, “Had Martel lost at Tours, the language of Oxford and Cambridge might well have been Arabic”.

  6. Jay Boo says

    Apr 26, 2016 at 10:24 am

    If a salesman has a good product, it is easy to sell.
    Islam is ruthlessly envious of all other religions because it is by far the worse.

    Of course it is only natural that those who follow the 72 virgin – Slave Trade – butcher knife ideology would feel a need to restrict anything that it might be compared to.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 27, 2016 at 5:21 pm

      Islam greatly appeals to vicious psychopaths.

      That’s why most male converts to Islam in the West are violent felons, and prisons are so rife with Da’wa.

  7. duh_swami says

    Apr 26, 2016 at 10:26 am

    Quran 9:29…’Even if they are People of the Book…The traditional way of
    consolidating power, is to eliminate the competition…

  8. Kepha says

    Apr 26, 2016 at 10:50 am

    The antidote to the poison that is being peddled by both Islam and secular [mis-]education is to read voraciously. The truth is out there–and it isn’t space aliens invading our planet. You can find information on the Christian and Jewish history of the Middle East; you can find information that exposes the lies peddled bv the pro-Communist narrative of 20th century history. I remember the shock I felt when I realized that the “Arabic” translations of classical works were actually translations of Syriac translations; as well as the curiosity piqued when I found out that the rural China which Mao conquered was one of peasant smallholdings rather than landlord-dominated latifundia (thanks to the otherwise pro-Communist Chalmers Johnston).

    I’d like to plug the more recent works of Rodney Stark, a sociologist associated with Baylor University for readers who might be intimidated by urtexten and more technical historical studies. He has assembled a lot of historical data to note that the narrative we get in high school ain’t necessarily so.

    Wide reading in more than one language is a reason why I often feel that I am not a history teacher, but a professional swindler of the young when I use approved textbooks and curricula. However, I always remind my students that what they hear from me comes from a perspective, and what they get in the books and films also have their perspectives–and they will have their own perspectives, too.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 27, 2016 at 12:14 am

      Good post, Kepha. There is actually a lot of excellent scholarship–it just is not often popularly utilized.

      • Mark Swan says

        Apr 28, 2016 at 5:29 am

        yes Kepha thanks

  9. Walter Sieruk says

    Apr 26, 2016 at 11:40 am

    The real reason that so many Muslims want to destroy Christianity, if they are able to , is the reality that the god of Islam is not the God of Christianity., being the God of the Bible The facts are that the god of Islam or the of Muslims is a single being. In great contrast the God of Christianity, of the Christians consists as the Trinity. By the Trinity it means that “Within the essence of the one True God there are Three Persons. Being God the Father. God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Not three gods in one But Three Distinct Persons in One God. Being the Tri-Personal Nature of God, Matthew 3:13-17. Second Corinthians 13:14. . The Bible teaches, the Father is God, Galatians 1:1.The Son is God, First John 5:20. The Holy Spirit is God, Acts 5:3,4. Not three gods but the one and only Triune God. As further explained in the Christian book MAJOR BIBLE THEMES by Lewis Sperry Chafer on page 39 which informs the readers that “Many believe that the doctrine of the Trinity in implicit in the use of the word Elohim, as the name of God which is in a plural form and seems to refer to the Triune God. “ Likewise, in the Christian magazine PERHAPS TODAY November/December 2013 on page 8 it reads about Genesis 1:1. “In the beginning God [this is the plural noun Elohim, meaning ‘more than one’] created the heaven and the earth.” Furthermore, a bit of a view of the inner workings of the Trinity together may be seen in that the God the Father raised Jesus from the dead. Romans 10:9,10. Jesus raised Himself from the dead, John 2:19,20. The Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead, Romans 8:11.The inner-workings of the Trinity of God may also be seen in the fact that the Father sanctifies, First Thessalonians 5:23. The Son sanctifies, Ephesians 5:26. Hebrews 2:11; 9:12,14;13:12.The Holy Spirit sanctifies ,Romans 15:16. Second Thessalonians 2:13. Getting back to the Bible book of Genesis. In Genesis 1:26 in reads “The God said let US make man in Our image , according to our likeness…” The words are the plural “Us” and “Our.” As in “We the Trinity” For the very next verse, 27, it further reads “So God created man in His own image…” In verse 26 it’s the plural “Us” and “Our” to the singular “His” That is Three Persons in One God. In addition, in the New Testament in Matthew 28:19 It further reads the Jesus said “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the the Son and the Holy Spirit.” [N.K.J.V] That is “name” not “names.” In conclusion the many apologists and propagandists for Islam for Islam who make the claim that Christians and Muslims believe in and worship the same God are make an untrue and outright false claim. For the God of Christianity, Christians and the Bible is not the god of Islam Muslims and the Koran.

  10. TJ says

    Apr 26, 2016 at 2:14 pm

    Christianity will live or die based on the authenticity of the word of Biblical figures. In the Bible, both Jesus and Moses attack worship around the stars. Jesus prophesied about a future time when people who mixed religion and government with the stars will perish. Moses threatened Jews who get involved with worship around the stars with death. When both men take an aggressive stance against this same practice, they very much need this practice of worship around the stars to be exposed as evil in order for their word to be valid. It can only be exposed as evil if the neighbors of the Jews who practice worship around the stars obviously like to exaggerate and murder Jews more than the neighbors who refuse to participate in star worship. In truth, when men gather in a building with a moon on top and continually state murderous intentions against the Jews they are playing into the hands of the Bible because of the words these Biblical figures said against them and the Bible has the winning hand.

  11. linnte says

    Apr 26, 2016 at 3:41 pm

    Why would the Dr. say Christians were the original inhabitants of Egypt? That doesn’t ring true of course. I wonder what he means by that?

    It is true though, that Muslims don’t know the Bible and that is sad, considering Muhammad would never have known about Jesus if there weren’t people rejoicing in Jesus and his word.

    With news of this book burning I think it behooves us to all get together and have a Qur’an, Hadith burning extravaganza! Gee, how could we organize this?

    • Kepha says

      Apr 26, 2016 at 5:27 pm

      The descendants of the Pharaonic-era Egyptians, although under Roman and later Byzantine rule, by and large converted to Christianity in the early Christian centuries. This is how the Coptic church came to be. As a matter of fact, it seems that Coptic names for months reflect ancient Egyptian usage. I understand there are other cultural practices among the Egyptian Copts that also reflect ancient Egyptian practices. The Coptic language (which may have been a living language as late as the 16th century rather than the purely liturgical language it is now) is merely the latest form of the indigenous Egyptian languages–although in the early Christian centuries it gave up hieroglyphic writing in favor of a modified, Greek-based alphabet. This, I believe, is why the Dr. says the Christians (in this case, Copts) are the original inhabitants of Egypt.

      The Arabic language was unknown in Egypt prior to the 7th century A.D. As late as the time of Saladin, Christians (mostly Copts) may still have been as much as half of the Egyptian population.

      • Kepha says

        Apr 26, 2016 at 5:28 pm

        BTW, I will defer to others here who may have a better grasp of Egypt’s Christian history.

        • linnte says

          Apr 26, 2016 at 5:31 pm

          Thanks Kepha! That is what I figured he meant, not all the way back in time to Pharaoh, but to the Copts. I need to study up on this. Appreciate your answer!

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 27, 2016 at 12:17 am

          linnte, Kepha is right. The Copts are often thought of as “Arab”, but they are really the remnant of the original people of Egypt.

  12. salim says

    Apr 26, 2016 at 5:43 pm

    When you see a charging bull causing mayhem you don’t blame the animal but the people who allowed this to happen.

    Yes, I know its the Muslims (because of Islam) who cause the damage but I blame the civilised world for allowing it to happen. The West has the military, financial and intellectual supremacy to defeat and eradicate Islam in no time. Sadly, the same West lacks the most important tool to score such an easy victory, it lacks the well..

    God knows what else Islam has wiped out. We cannot even discuss the destruction of the library of Alexandria (the best in its time) to avoid offending Muslims…

    Even worse is the pollution and poisoning of proper western science. Muslims managed to have their own hallucinations and pseudo science to infiltrate western academia. Some years ago, the so called Islam 1001 around the world exhibitions claimed that nearly all of our scientific achievements were based on Islamic discoveries..! yet, no books or articles were published to challenge such big lies.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 27, 2016 at 5:33 pm

      Yeah–the whole idea of “Islamic science” is an absurd canard:

      “The Myth of Islamic Science”

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/the-myth-of-islamic-science

  13. gravenimage says

    Apr 26, 2016 at 10:00 pm

    Raymond Ibrahim: How Islam Erased Christianity from History
    ……………………………………..

    This is what Islam *does*.

    It erases all of that “Jahillya”–the period of pre-Islamic “ignorance”.

    Gone. Down the “memory hole”.

    That is what blowing up the Bamiyan Buddhas was about. That is what destroying the Palmira Arch was about.

    Even worse is when they expunge the history of the conquered people still living under the Muslim heel since the Islamic conquest. The idea is that they can have no pride if they have no official history there.

    The denial of the Armenian Genocide in Turkey is not just a denial of savagery, as is usually thought–instead, it is a denial that the Armenians and other Christians had a culturally rich, albeit horribly oppressed, history in Turkey right up until a hundred years ago.

    More:

    “It’s the same situation in Iraq. There’s almost nothing about us [Christians] in our history books, and what there is, is totally wrong. There’s nothing about us being here before Islam The only Christians mentioned are from the West. Many Iraqis believe we moved here. From the West. That we are guests in this country.”

    Zara might be surprised to learn that similar ignorance and historical revisionism predominates in the West.

    Although Christians are in fact the most indigenous inhabitants of most of the Arab world, I am often asked, by educated people, why Christians “choose” to go and live in the Middle East among Muslims, if the latter treat them badly…
    ……………………………………..

    Yes–many Westerners are completely ignorant of the fact that most of the Middle East, the Levant, and the Mahgreb was solidly Christian right up until the Muslim conquest, and that Christians continued to constitute a majority there for centuries.

    It is only with the brutal erosion of centuries of violence and oppression that Christians have been reduced to the abused remnant that remains today.

    The last remaining major population–in Syria and Lebanon–is being eradicated as we speak. And even before the horrific rise of ISIS, Christians were being driven out and murdered in Iraq. Although it has somewhat slowed under al-Sisi back to about the level of violence during Mubarak, the Copts are still being reduced in number in Egypt. And in the “Palestinian territories”, Christians have been almost entirely eradicated in Gaza, and in Bethlehem–literally the birth place of Christianity–they are now reduced to a sad vestige of what their population was just decades ago.

    Heartbreaking but excellent article from Raymond Ibrahim.

  14. gravenimage says

    Apr 26, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    I see we now have the much requested “Like” Dislike” buttons! Thank you!

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 27, 2016 at 5:34 pm

      I guess JW decided not to retain the buttons…

  15. aaron mrand says

    Apr 27, 2016 at 8:55 am

    people see with their physical eyes and hear with their physical ears….but Jesus said if you were blind you would see and having ears you hear not….man thinks on the physical plane…Jesus spoke of the Spiritual
    which, I believe, few are familiar with…the muslim is a “wild ass of a man, whose hand is against every man and every mans hand is against him”…the muslim is even at the best within their “religion”, both
    blind and deaf and functions completely on the physical level and has NO love (even brotherly love),
    compassion or mercy for others who do not think and behave as they do. There is no physical hope
    that the muslim will convert based on the Testimonies of the American or European Christian which
    has been compromised by the “conformation to this world (spirit). Why would they? To them a
    Christian or a Jew or any other “religion” is of no consequence unless they convert to islam. Islam
    is an active religon and appeals to the vitality of the youthful jihadist. Whereas Christianity has become
    stale and unattractive to the youth of this world. I mean who wants to ….give away all your earthly
    treasures and come and follow me.today? Especially when the market places of Babylon beckon with a
    sirens lure of earthly delights…..Who has “faith” sufficient to go amongst the jihadist in “their” home
    terrority and preach Jesus Christ and Him crucified to the jihadists and…most likely put to great physical
    trials through torture/pain…there was an old hymn that went…..”some through the fire, some through the flood, some through great trials but All through the blood (of Christ Jesus)…Jesus said..when I return
    will I find ANY faith left…?Well, we all have choices to make…me too…do we sit on our dead center
    and hope that the “government” will handle things for us with the muslims or do we decide to pick up
    the cross and follow Jesus……do we believe that “everything” will be ok once the muslim acclimates
    to the American way as our pres. seems to think they will in a “few” generations?…and that word PEACE
    that is thrown around so much today by the muslim saying we are a religion of Peace…you have to
    use their, the muslim, dictionary to find the definition of their peace which is the direct opposite of the
    peace that Jesus spoke of ……we can …..if we will……

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