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Robert Spencer in FrontPage: Saudi Influence in Washington Must End

Apr 22, 2016 1:23 pm By Robert Spencer

In FrontPage today I discuss why Saudi influence in Washington must end if we are going to have any hope of defeating the global jihad.

Obama Salman

The 28 pages of a Congressional report detailing where the 9/11 hijackers got their financing have been classified for years, but what they contain is an open secret. Former Senator Bob Graham explained: “The 28 pages primarily relate to who financed 9/11, and they point a very strong finger at Saudi Arabia as being the principal financier.” So why keep this information secret? Because the Saudis wield undue influence in Washington, among both parties – an influence that has deformed our response to the global jihad threat, and continues to do so.

Responding to a bill that would allow 9/11 victims’ families to sue governments linked to terror attacks inside the U.S., the Saudis have acted like neither an ally nor an innocent party: they’ve threatened to sell $750 billion in U.S. asserts, vividly demonstrating why their influence in Washington is so detrimental.

Nonetheless, they still have a friend in Barack Obama, a man who has never hesitated to reach out in friendship to those who threaten the United States. Obama is trying to get Congress to reject the bill, and his solicitude for the Saudis is drawing criticism even from members of his own party. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) called on him to release the 28 pages: “If the president is going to meet with the Saudi Arabian leadership and the royal family, they think it would be appropriate that this document be released before the president makes that trip, so that they can talk about whatever issues are in that document.”

The New York Daily News, normally a reliable Democratic Party organ, fumed: “If the President allows himself to get pushed around this way in front of the world, then he earns every bit of the anger being directed at him by the extended family of September 11.”

Of course, all too many Republicans are just as much in the tank for the Saudis as the Democrats. CBS News reported on September 30, 2001, on George W. Bush’s watch, that “two dozen members of Osama bin Laden’s family were urgently evacuated from the United States in the first days following the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, according to the Saudi ambassador to Washington.” If Hitler had had twenty-four relatives on U.S. soil on December 8, 1941, would FDR have urgently evacuated them to Berlin?

The FBI under both Bush and Obama has likewise been an apparently willing servant of the Saudis. The Miami Herald reported on July 1, 2014 that “freshly released but heavily censored FBI documents include tantalizing new information about events connected to the Sarasota Saudis who moved suddenly out of their home about two weeks before the 9/11 terrorist attacks, leaving behind clothing, jewelry and cars….This release suggests that the FBI has covered up information that is vitally important to public safety.” These “Sarasota Saudis” were a family that abruptly fled the country shortly before 9/11, “leaving behind three vehicles, food in the refrigerator and toys in the swimming pool.” Mohammed Atta may have visited their home. Yet for years, the FBI insisted that they had nothing to do with the 9/11 jihad plot, and has been extremely reticent about sharing information about their investigation. Whom is the FBI protecting, and why?

Meanwhile, the Saudis have spent untold billions of dollars spreading their Wahhabi ideology, including material such as “Jihad: The Forgotten Obligation,” in areas of the Islamic world where jihad had indeed been forgotten, largely if not completely. The Saudis have, in reawakening Muslims to this obligation, set the world on fire: al-Qaeda was a product of the Wahhabi ideology, and the Islamic State, with its unquenchable desire to commit as many jihad mass murder attacks as possible on American soil, despises the House of Saud and is determined to overthrow it but is nevertheless its demon child. The Saudis remain one of the world’s chief financiers of jihad terror.

This is an ally of the United States? No. The Saudis are not an ally of the U.S. and have not been since 9/11 and before. A presidential candidate who really wants to strike a blow against the global jihad would vow to release the 28 pages and to stand up to the Saudis’ threats, and to break the Saudis’ economic hold on the U.S. by putting the full weight of the U.S. government behind offshore drilling, oil pipelines, fracking, and the development of alternative energy sources.

In 1942, Franklin Delano Roosevelt not only wasn’t making sure that Hitler’s relatives were safely back home; he also wasn’t meeting with the Führer to discuss a German-U.S. alliance. It is long past time that the United States stop behaving like a weak client state of the House of Saud.

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  1. jr says

    Apr 22, 2016 at 1:28 pm

    I think saudi arabia is more dangerous than iran

    • Christianblood says

      Apr 22, 2016 at 7:20 pm

      In the meantime, Obama Bows to Turkish Genocide Denial as Erdogan Calls for War on Armenia Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160422/1038474681/obama-erdogan-lavrov-armenia-genocide.html#ixzz46bIBHXmS

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 22, 2016 at 10:40 pm

        “Bring your documents, Erdoğan calls on Armenian diaspora over 1915 massacres”

        http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/bring-your-documents-erdogan-calls-on-armenian-diaspora-over-1915-massacres.aspx?pageID=238&nID=79891

        This is, of course, grotesque. The Armenian Genocide is one of the most heavily documented genocides in history save for the Holocaust.

        And records are not just from Armenian survivors, but from Western and other observers *as well as* Turkish documents.

        And the Armenian Genocide did not just occur in 1915-16 during WWI–it was executed in waves from the late 19th century through 1915 and did not end until 1922.

        And it happened under the Ottoman Empire, the “Young Turks”, and under Atatürk. They may not agreed on much except butchering Infidels.

      • Western Canadian says

        Apr 23, 2016 at 11:02 am

        Yes, and lets never forget that the thug in chief and his cronies, are all followers of the hard left…. The influence that these SOVIET backed criminals has had on the west is absolutely incredible… Corruption of the educational system at all levels, the media as lap dogs for any leftist foolishness and criminality, attacks on the family and churches…. All the weakness of the west, and all due to adherents of soviet ideology…..

    • Custos Custodum says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 2:22 am

      I think Saudi Arabia is more dangerous than Iran.

      Both are very dangerous, but the ideologies and institutional dynamics that make them tick are dangerous.

      Obama seems to have transitioned to sympathizing with Iran.

      SPECULATIVE BACKGROUND: Perhaps the Iranian mullahs are unhappy about the importation of Sunnis into Europe and are threatening to disrupt the operation.

      Obama – who remains a devote Third Worldist – is trying to keep the operation going by buying off the mullahs through repeated rounds of U.S. “concessions” towards a “deal” that supposedly is desperately needed by the mullahs.

  2. Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says

    Apr 22, 2016 at 1:41 pm

    https://www.rt.com/usa/340109-obama-911-report-saudi-arabia/
    says “Saudi Arabia has threatened to sell some $750 billion in US assets if the bill [to allow terror victims to sue foreign governments connected to attacks on American soil] passes, fearing it could leave the country vulnerable in US courts.”
    So what? How is this a threat? As a general proposition, who would be harmed by someone’s sale of assets at bargain prices? Somebody please explain the economics here.

    • jihad3tracker says

      Apr 22, 2016 at 1:52 pm

      THIS ITEM ON THE RT WEBSITE IS EXCELLENT — I FOUND IT A DAY AGO OR THEREABOUTS. Thanks for putting it up, Mark.

      I must personally plead guilty to ignoring — for way too many years — the Saudi activist jihad campaign, because, even at my advanced age of 67, THE HOUSE OF SAUD WAS ALWAYS ON THE WORLD STAGE.

      And, with their ultra-fancy wardrobe plus silver tongued ambassadors and other spokespersons, there is a tendency to let that take the place of serious thinking by Americans regarding reality.

      But they are Muslims, even though rich ones, and taking Wahhabic Islam devoutly means subjugation or death for Infidels.

      • Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says

        Apr 22, 2016 at 3:39 pm

        Hi, jihad3tracker, but I didn’t put up that RT item; I just followed the link in Robert Spencer’s commentary, by clicking on the red-highlighted word “threatened”. I still don’t understand how a sale of assets by a seller who is non-economically motivated (and is willing to get less-than-market prices) can be a threat to anyone.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 22, 2016 at 6:47 pm

          Dumping bonds *can* have a negative effect on the issuer–but in this case would probably have at least as negative effect on the seller.

          The main point is that the Saudis are *threatening us*–it will be much worse for us if we cave to these threats.

          I say we call their bluff.

    • Custos Custodum says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 2:40 am

      Remember when Obama threatened BP over the oil spill and extorted a massive, extra-legal “settlement”?

    • DFD says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 12:23 pm

      To: Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY), jihad3tracker & gravenimage

      Agreed with all of you. Such a sale would cause the Saudis a massive loss, but it certainly wouldn’t dent the US’s economic credibility.

      Maybe your public and/or powers that are, can tease the Saudis to simply give away the bonds for free. The US will pay them up anyway once due, but SA would have to swallow a 750 billion loss – wishful thinking, I know.

  3. Rita Petty says

    Apr 22, 2016 at 1:42 pm

    Obama still trying to sell out Europe and America to his fellow Muslims.

    • Custos Custodum says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 3:03 am

      Yep, that pretty much sums it up.

      It’s also important to remember that – as others have observed – Obama feels a devout, mystical sense of communing with a romantic 1980’s vision of the “Third World,” “liberation movements” (such as Islamic State).

  4. Frank says

    Apr 22, 2016 at 1:48 pm

    I predict the House of Saud will be overthrown within a year if we pull all our assets out. Perhaps it’s time.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 22, 2016 at 6:52 pm

      We have no control over whether the Saudis buy our bonds or not–but we can *certainly* pull out of government investments in Saudi Arabia and government-sponsored projects there.

      We can and we *should*.

      • Custos Custodum says

        Apr 23, 2016 at 2:36 am

        Actually, if we wanted to, we could control pretty much ANYTHING that the Saudis do or don’t do, including bond purchases. You would be surprised how high they can jump in their desert dresses.

        The U.S. is mentally handicapped by decades of dhimmi submissiveness vis-a-vis the duplicitous desert despots.

        Also, the Saudis will have bought up an extensive and well-greased network of informers, agents of influence and inactive sleeper agents throughout key government agencies, the media, Congress, etc. However, quite a few of these may turn out to be duds when push comes to shove.

      • DFD says

        Apr 23, 2016 at 12:26 pm

        gravenimage says: “….but we can *certainly* pull out of government investments in Saudi Arabia….We can and we *should*.”

        So should we Europeans, fat chance

  5. smart guy says

    Apr 22, 2016 at 1:53 pm

    Support for Saudi Arabia can be summed up in one word
    “Treason” The murder of 3,000 Americans on 911 was an act of war.
    Consequently the FBI, CIA, NSA, the Pentagon are also traitors.
    The refusal of the Pentagon to do a mutiny in answer to 911
    proves that they have become traitors.

    • Christianblood says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 9:44 pm

      smart guy posted

      (…Support for Saudi Arabia can be summed up in one word
      “Treason” The murder of 3,000 Americans on 911 was an act of war.
      Consequently the FBI, CIA, NSA, the Pentagon are also traitors.
      The refusal of the Pentagon to do a mutiny in answer to 911
      proves that they have become traitors…)

      Wow! Finally someone spoke the truth the way it should spoken.
      Dear Smart Guy, I was reading the comments in the Jihadwatch for a long time and I have heard someone speak the truth the way you did. May God bless you!

      • Christianblood says

        Apr 23, 2016 at 9:45 pm

        I meant to say:

        I have NEVER heard someone speak the truth the way you did…

      • Angemon says

        Apr 24, 2016 at 7:04 am

        Who was that person?

        • Angemon says

          Apr 24, 2016 at 7:09 am

          Nevermind then.

  6. Veritas says

    Apr 22, 2016 at 2:06 pm

    Buraq Obama is always his most animated when meeting his allies the smiling assassins.

    In the words of one infamous Saudi, “stay quiet and you’ll be OK”.

  7. Bloggerd says

    Apr 22, 2016 at 2:09 pm

    Dr. Robert Morey was protected by the FBI but as soon as Bush came to ppower he removed that protection.

  8. Marty says

    Apr 22, 2016 at 2:20 pm

    This delusional administration pretends that turkey, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia are allies while they consistently plot and work for Western civilization’s destruction. They are Islamist regimes that, hopefully, the next president will recognize as evil and a real threat to our national security.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 6:07 pm

      NO Muslim entity should *ever* be regarded as an ‘ally’ by ANY sensible non-Muslim nation.

      Any alliance with a Muslim entity will turn out badly for the non-Muslim partner, sooner or later and usually sooner.

  9. EmHotep says

    Apr 22, 2016 at 3:25 pm

    Dear Robert, also Turkish President second fuhrer Tayyip Erdogan’s influence must end, he is organising everything..

  10. Georg says

    Apr 22, 2016 at 3:39 pm

    What a miserable scourge. Energy independence, however it is achieved, is a fundamental national security issue which is woefully underappreciated; and its being underappreciated is by miscreant design.

  11. PRCS says

    Apr 22, 2016 at 5:05 pm

    In her conversation with Ralph Peters yesterday morning, Fox News’ Martha McCallum referred to “radical Wahabbists”, or similar, and to “their Wahabbist faith”, or similar.

    Can’t recall for sure, but I’d bet money the “twisted, perverted” ideology crap was likely mentioned, too.

    Clueless!

    Completely damned clueless.

  12. Angemon says

    Apr 22, 2016 at 5:17 pm

    It is long past time that the United States stop behaving like a weak client state of the House of Saud.

    Indeed. No non-muslim nation should have any dealings with muslim nations.

    • DFD says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 12:31 pm

      Angemon says : “… No non-muslim nation should have any dealings with muslim nations.”

      With all due respect, I disagree. Non-Muslim Nations should have dealings with them. Military dealings, we deliver the ordnance, they receive it.

      Don’t you think that’s better?

      • Angemon says

        Apr 24, 2016 at 7:02 am

        🙂

  13. D says

    Apr 22, 2016 at 5:19 pm

    I said it before and I’ll say it again, we don’t need the Saudis oil, we’re self sufficient. Washington shouldn’t be so dependent of them just because they are a few bucks cheaper.

    • MTMLA says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 8:38 am

      How about Bush and other politicians who covered up for SA and invaded Iraq as a distraction and lied to the American people to jusitify the Iraq invasion, while protecting the Saudis from any attack or blame. How much $$$ are they getting in their secret bank accounts to keep this lie a secret from the public while sacrificing thousands of American lives and money post 9/11? Traitors , sell outs ? I believe the total truth will be revealed only when all these scum will be dead and out of reach of justice.

      • Jay Boo says

        Apr 23, 2016 at 8:55 am

        MTMLA
        You sound more like an Obama/Hillary supporter than anti-jihad.
        Are there any Muslims where you live?

  14. common sense says

    Apr 22, 2016 at 5:27 pm

    The US could become energy independent or close to it with some work. Pin head politicians with Ipads seem to have forgotten what that is though. No reason to involve the Saudi’s in anything.
    The back stabbing, illegitimate, traitor Hussein has seen to it that no one can speak out about it or at least created that perception. Plenty of people here will go to work to secure energy independence…say 10 million maybe? If the positions were available the work force would show up. If the back stabber was truly into so called “legacy” building as the press loves to say it, he would have already done this. Talk about saving the country? That would do it he’d be a hero! BUT NO! The Bolshevik, traitorous, scum licking, communist filth does not want that though. He wants more Gov’t control and to keep his cronies right where they are in the status quo bubble.
    He is also working for more ‘integration’ of scum that will never work for a living that we will support. But with what money? Our pensions, savings, 401k’s, IRA’s would be a nice treat for the monster that tries to rule our every move.
    The traitor is supposed to protect Americans not sell us out so he must indeed be the enemy. He does it time and time again.
    I still don’t understand how many of my fellow Americans don’t see right through the back stabbing, traitorous, scum sucking parasitic flea who should be impeached and publicly flogged then imprisoned.

    PRODUCE AND SAVE! “Spend and consume” is a way into the endless vortex of debt. Jobs here in the US= no more dependence and financing of foreign countries that sell our finalized products back to us on credit. Lift Gov’t regulation and bring business back to the US! This is how we can rebuild our military and stop the madness of illegal immigration and illegal immigration by presidential order. It would be WORK but we could do it. And get the socialist ideologies out of the picture which includes the ‘internal raid and supplant (IRS)’ that are run by the fed bank and stop printing money like it is breath mints.
    Then bring litigation against Snotty Arabia and quickly. Cut our business ties and any oil dependence then take their money on the world stage and pay reparations to the families of 911. At that point no one would dare lay litigation against us. But the traitor scum would be allowed to work any cases from his prison cell while flies fester in his wounds.

  15. linnte says

    Apr 22, 2016 at 6:03 pm

    I want those 28 pages released! It will prove to Liberals that our Government that they adore so much, is a Gestapo! And it will prove Saudi is NOT our friend. Hopefully they will make the connection that NO MUSLIM state is our friend and the light will begin to shine into their vacuous heads!

    • DFD says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 12:36 pm

      Maybe writing to your newspapers.

      Not releasing those documents proves indeed a *conspiracy*. Not a conspiracy theory, but a real one, a real CONSPIRACY. Perhaps you and other US contributers to this thread take up the suggestion?

  16. gravenimage says

    Apr 22, 2016 at 7:03 pm

    Robert Spencer in FrontPage: Saudi Influence in Washington Must End
    ………………………

    *Absolutely*!

  17. Allan Mandrowski says

    Apr 22, 2016 at 8:51 pm

    Everybody acting like Obama is the only one at fault for this forgets that EVERY US president has cozied up to the Saudis. Let’s stay rational and call out every US President for their treasonous relationship with the Saudis.

    Seen Bush holding hands with the Saudi King? Seen Clintons earn millions selling arms to Saudi? Seen Bush Sr, Reagan et al.

    The entire history of American government and Saudi government is one of us selling out to jihad wahabism for some cheap oil and lining the pockets of the super rich.

    • Mark Swan says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 4:14 am

      The issue of deficits has become a political football in Washington. The Obama administration knew that the massive stimulus spending signed into law at the beginning of President Obama’s term would produce record deficits. They hoped to use the deficits to force large new tax hikes and promote income redistribution. Many commentators believe that the goal of the administration was to force a value added tax—a type of national sales tax—that would mimic the social democracies of Europe. This alternative, a “VAT,” has been widely discussed in Washington. In effect, it was hoped that the record deficits would create a “debt bomb” that could only be defused by a new and far-reaching tax regime—or, at a minimum, by substantially higher effective tax rates.

      If the “debt bomb” explodes, it will ravage the economy not only of the U.S. but of the whole world.

      • Allan Mandrowski says

        Apr 23, 2016 at 6:14 am

        Do you acknowledge that every other President after WW II has been in bed with the Saudis?

      • DFD says

        Apr 23, 2016 at 12:44 pm

        Hi Mark,

        For your enlightenment, my I suggest:

        https://youtu.be/J6TcpfBHlbs

        • خَليفة says

          Apr 23, 2016 at 2:03 pm

          Funny….thanks for the laugh

        • Mark Swan says

          Apr 24, 2016 at 2:37 am

          Thanks DFD that was funny…never heard it before.

  18. dumbledoresarmy says

    Apr 22, 2016 at 9:11 pm

    I hope that a copy of this article has been sent direct to Donald Trump.

    Indeed, *lots* of copies need to be sent by every poster or lurker here who prefers a President Trump to the prospect of a President Hilary Clinton.

    The dhimmi-like/ tributary-like relationship between the USA and, inter alia, the House of Saud, Turkey, Pakistan, and Indonesia needs to STOP. All ‘aid’ to the ‘poor Palestinians’ needs to STOP.

    Then the USA would be free to tell Russia to STOP playing footsie with sinister Islamic Iran, without any danger of being accused of hypocrisy.

    That which applies at a micro level – NEVER MARRY A MUSLIM! – should also apply at the macro level, the relationships between states and nations.

    For far too long assorted infidel entities, for assorted reasons. (not least, internecine quarrels in the Camp of the Infidels) have thought they could ‘do deals’ with this or that mohammedan entity. It was ALWAYS, in the long run, a disaster for the foolish infidel party. They ALWAYS get screwed.

    • mortimer says

      Apr 22, 2016 at 9:48 pm

      dda wrote: “For far too long assorted infidel(s) …have thought they could ‘do deals’ …mohammedan(s) … They ALWAYS get screwed.”

      Mohammedans follow the example of Mohammed who broke treaties suddenly and opportunistically.

      Islam is paranoid, opportunistic and conspiratorial to the core.

  19. mortimer says

    Apr 22, 2016 at 9:31 pm

    gravenimage wrote: “The main point is that the Saudis are *threatening us*–it will be much worse for us if we cave to these threats. I say we call their bluff.”

    If we do, we must be prepared to transition within two years to an economy not dependent on oil and to vehicles that use alternate fuels.

    Fortunately, dozens of alternate fuel systems can be developed within two years. I say we bankrupt the corrupt Saudis and all the Arab oil states. They’ve played the West for suckers for decades and exported terrorism at the same time.

    They must be put in their normal place…at the bottom of the Third World. Without anyone to buy their oil, they have nothing to offer the world but backwardness, stupidity, inbreeding and absurdity.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 22, 2016 at 11:05 pm

      mortimer wrote:

      gravenimage wrote: “The main point is that the Saudis are *threatening us*–it will be much worse for us if we cave to these threats. I say we call their bluff.”

      If we do, we must be prepared to transition within two years to an economy not dependent on oil and to vehicles that use alternate fuels.
      …………………..

      Mortimer, I love to see our increased energy independence, both in better efficiency in extracting our own sources of oil and natural gas and use of alternative sources of energy.

      But the fact is that most oil goes into a general international kitty–it is not sold directly to individual nations. Saudi Arabia is not going to be able to cut off the US or other Western markets even if they wanted to, which I doubt they would anyway.

      I think they just hope that if they threaten us that we will back off. If we call their bluff I’m quite sure that they will back off.

      And if they do not, we will still be better off than bowing to a nation funding our death and destruction.

    • Custos Custodum says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 2:09 am

      Here are a few thoughts on reforming Saudi Arabia:

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/03/iraqi-mp-iraqi-army-doesnt-have-enough-forces-to-liberate-areas-of-iraq-occupied-by-the-islamic-state#comment-1396474

  20. Vinz Prasetyo says

    Apr 22, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    saudi you’re the best..
    thank you for giving me the necessary information

  21. Joeb says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 5:08 am

    “In 1942, Franklin Delano Roosevelt…wasn’t meeting with the Führer to discuss a German-U.S. alliance.”

    Indeed. He waited until 1945 to do it on board the USS Quincy in the Suez Canal.

  22. Tim says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 10:04 am

    Correct, FDR would not have helped Hitler’s relatives but he was Stalin’s willing handmaiden at all times. Check out “Satan’s Trinity:Hitler, Stalin, Muhammad” on Amazon.

  23. ninetyninepct says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 10:48 am

    “The Saudis remain one of the world’s chief financiers of jihad terror.”

    Proudly supported by Eastern Canada who continue to buy Saudi and Nigerian blood beheading rape oil and flatly refusing to use Canadian oil. In stead, they use the welfare cheques they get from the rest of Canada. In a roundabout way, by continuing to give Eastern Canada welfare, the rest of Canada is supporting Muslim terror.

    Eastern Canada clearly approves of Muslim terrorism and atrocities.

  24. Lloyd Miller says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 11:43 am

    Simple solution: Seize all Saudi assets and put a $50.00/barrel tariff on their oil.

  25. Lloyd Miller says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 11:47 am

    Same for Iran!

  26. Rich says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 12:19 pm

    I would like to know how the presidential candidates feel about the U.S,/Saudi relationship and the 28 page 9/11 report. Do they have the courage to say what’s obvious?

  27. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 5:47 pm

    Tee hee! Tough talk!
    The silly blue-eyed djinn (Americans) will fold to our threats as usual!

  28. underbed cat says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 8:56 pm

    I agree, but Saudi cash is buying up land the U.S. small cities at a fast rate… they are threatening massive bond sales (who will buy) if 28 9/11 pages are released, they have a powerful ally who has plenty to hide…the military seems to be under foreign influence.. and it looks grim to me. I hope I am wrong…but unless the politicians get their head out of the quicksand…….the influence will conquer without a peep.

  29. Kepha says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 11:28 pm

    This is purely speculation at this point, but I suspect that some US successes at nabbing Qaida and Taleban badmashes might be because we found some bad dope on members of the House of Saud (and others among our “allies”) and used it to blackmail some useful intelligence out of the Sa’udi and other governments. I’m also curious to know what we might have pried out of the Palestinian Authority, too. While I’m at it, I also believe such people deserved to be blackmailed.

  30. sidney penny says

    Apr 24, 2016 at 9:20 am

    “This is an ally of the United States? No. The Saudis are not an ally of the U.S. and have not been since 9/11 and before.”

    You could replace the word Saudis with the word Pakistanis and you would still be right.

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