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Sanders brings up Holocaust discussing Trump’s “intolerance” of Muslims

Apr 3, 2016 2:22 pm By Robert Spencer

“On a personal note, some of you know I’m Jewish. My father came to this country at the age of 17 from Poland. He came over, other people in his family did not come over. Those people died. Children died. … So that is in my heart, to see what a lunatic can do by stirring up racial hatred.”

This is just a new variation on the common and hysterical claim that “Muslims are the new Jews,” which has been answered many times — as often as it has been asserted. Islamic apologist Karen Armstrong, Leftist “journalist” Jeffrey Goldberg, Islamic Republic of Iran front group Board member Reza Aslan, Muslim Brotherhood-linked Congressman Keith Ellison, Nicholas Kristof, Canadian Muslim leader Syed Sohawardy, and Hamas-linked CAIR leader Jacob Bender, among many others, have repeated it. The blazingly brilliant Daniel Greenfield takes it apart in this video.

And in 2014, Bill Maher noted: “Jews weren’t oppressing anybody. There weren’t 5,000 militant Jewish groups. They didn’t do a study of treatment of women around the world and find that Jews were at the bottom of it. There weren’t 10 Jewish countries in the world that were putting gay people to death just for being gay.” Indeed, and no one is calling for or justifying genocide of Muslims now; there is no individual or group remotely comparable to the National Socialists in any genuine sense.

The late Christopher Hitchens also refuted this idea when writing a few years ago about the Islamic supremacist mega-mosque at Ground Zero: “‘Some of what people are saying in this mosque controversy is very similar to what German media was saying about Jews in the 1920s and 1930s,’ Imam Abdullah Antepli, Muslim chaplain at Duke University, told the New York Times. Yes, we all recall the Jewish suicide bombers of that period, as we recall the Jewish yells for holy war, the Jewish demands for the veiling of women and the stoning of homosexuals, and the Jewish burning of newspapers that published cartoons they did not like.”

The purpose of statements like the one Sanders made is to intimidate people into thinking that criticism of Islamic supremacism leads to the concentration camps, and thus there must be no criticism of Islamic supremacism. The unstated assumption is that if one group was unjustly accused of plotting subversion and violence, and was viciously persecuted and massacred on the basis of those false accusations, then any group accused of plotting subversion and violence must be innocent, and any such accusation must be in service of preparing for their subversion and massacre. It is simply a method to foreclose on any criticism of jihad terror and Islamic supremacism.

Bernie Sanders

“Sanders references the Holocaust when discussing Trump’s ‘intolerance’ toward Muslims,” by John Wagner, Washington Post, April 2, 2016 (thanks to Lookmann):

MILWAUKEE — In the midst of chastising Donald Trump on Saturday for showing intolerance toward Muslims, Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders told an audience here that some of his relatives died in the Holocaust as the result of “a lunatic … stirring up racial hatred.”

“On a personal note, some of you know I’m Jewish,” Sanders said during a town hall meeting here. “My father came to this country at the age of 17 from Poland. He came over, other people in his family did not come over. Those people died. Children died. … So that is in my heart, to see what a lunatic can do by stirring up racial hatred.”

Sanders’s apparent reference to Adolf Hitler directly followed his recollection of Trump’s controversial comments late last year about temporarily banning Muslims from entering the country.

The senator from Vermont told his audience here that he and Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), a Muslim in Congress, visited a Washington mosque shortly afterward to denounce the Republican front-runner’s position and talk about “fighting Islamaphobia.”

Sanders said if he is elected president, “trust me, Muslims, or anybody in this country, are not going to live in fear because of their religion, because of the color of their skin, because of the country they came from. That is not what this country is about.”

Sanders then launched into his reflection on his family and the Holocaust.

During an appearance Sunday on ABC News’s “This Week,” Sanders tried to clarify his comments.

“I did not compare Trump to Hitler,” he told host George Stephanopoulos after he played video of Sanders’s remarks….

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  1. Hope says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 2:31 pm

    Muslims are not the new Jews. Muslims are the old Nazis.

    • jihad3tracker says

      Apr 3, 2016 at 2:34 pm

      Hello Hope —

      THOSE ELEVEN WORDS SHOULD BE CARVED IN STONE AT CAIR’S NATIONAL HEADQUARTERS.

      • Hope says

        Apr 3, 2016 at 2:41 pm

        Amen, jihad3tracker.

        • jihad3tracker says

          Apr 3, 2016 at 3:21 pm

          **** Here is a serious request for all of you, regarding Robert’s post on Sanders ****

          What is your pros-versus-cons opinion about sending Sanders’s campaign website several of the excellent ISLAM TRUTH & REALITY Internet resources ?

          1. My “Yes, do it” in the pro category — He almost certainly has gotten a bunch of lying taqiyya from Keith Ellison, along with the usual “Islamophobia” crap. If 20 or 30 of us flood his mind with facts, even if he just looks at the website contents for a moment before clicking away, at least there is the seed of doubt planted.

          2. My “No, forget it” in the con cateogory — Keeping him as ignorant as possible for as long as possible is smart strategy for after the conventions (even if you think he will not be nominated) because that enables a Repub nominee to hit hard with adverts and appearances, especially if we all keep sending info on Islam, to whoever it is.

          So, please chime in to the survey, and if the “REPLY” buttons get used up, put your comment farther down in the queue for this post. THANKS MUCHLY . . .

        • dajjal says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 12:16 am

          @jihad3tracker: Do it! Send info to all the candidates.

        • Hope says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 6:55 am

          Yes, do it. Why not use any and all information we have?

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 10:23 pm

          I’d like to see *everybody* educated about the threat of Islam.

          I doubt it will stick with Bernie Sanders, though.

      • Peter Charles says

        Apr 3, 2016 at 3:22 pm

        And on Sander’s forehead.

      • Fessitude says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 2:27 pm

        Unfortunately, our society doesn’t have the wherewithal to do the carving — hence the problem of the problem (see my other comment here).

    • awake says

      Apr 3, 2016 at 7:45 pm

      Exactly

    • mortimer says

      Apr 3, 2016 at 8:54 pm

      If Sanders wants to find how much Muslims resemble Hitler, he should start talking in the campaign about Israel’s right to exist.

      • Mark Swan says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 2:56 am

        Good One

      • Jack Diamond says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 10:03 am

        If he is putting guys in “Students for Justice in Palestine” t-shirts in the frame with him for speeches (along with a hijab Muslima)– a “from the river to the sea” group– I think he is making the (visual) statement he wants to make about Israel. It goes along with his complaining about Israel’s “disproportionate” response to being attacked by Hamas. Sanders invoking concentration camps and Hitler in response to a sane attempt to defend ourselves from Muslim Jihad (and calling it “lunatic” and stirring up “racial hatred”) puts him in the company of another self-hating Jew, Chomsky, who did so much to popularize that inversion of victimhood now taken as received wisdom on the Left: Jews are the new Nazis (Israel) and the Nazis (Isamofascists/”Palestinians”) are the new Jews.

        Sanders said if he is elected president, “trust me, Muslims…are not going to live in fear because of their religion” Everyone else living in fear of Muslims because of their religion is okay however. That is Progressive.

        • Lanya LaPunta says

          Apr 5, 2016 at 8:54 am

          There us no reasoning with islamophiliacs, of which the radical left wing progressives are, by definition.

          We can rant. We can rave. We can stamp our feet. However, islamophilia has taken hold of the progressives. No amount of fact (please, don’t confuse me with facts … as I prefer to obfuscate and call people with which I do not agree “racists, islamophobes, and bigots”)..

          As long as islamophilia is the stance of the progressives and their cohorts within the media …. all is lost.

    • Polk1970 says

      Apr 3, 2016 at 11:03 pm

      They sure are today’s Nazis
      Sanders is an old DIRTY BASTARD who HATES his Jewish Blood.
      This use of the Holocaust,especially in light of his recitation,ad nauseum ,how his father was a Polish immigrant.
      What he doesn’t say is his father was a Polish Jew escaping Anti-Semitism and Pogroms

    • Jimbo says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 4:47 am

      What did Hitler say? ” Who remembers the Armenians?” You certainly don’t Bernie.

    • scherado says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 5:10 am

      If Donald Trump is using and playing the full spectrum of political appeal, AS IT EXISTS TODAY, then he is doing exactly what Hitler did in his rise to power. Whether or not you consider this an inappropriate “comparison to Hitler”, I’ll leave for those who worry about such things. We must be able to compare politicians, that is not negotiable.

      Some politicians are sicker than others, to borrow a phrase. In other words, not all politicians are equally dishonest, ruthless or shameless.

      Politicians get a bad name because they pander or play both sides. Those who develop positions from principles get the honor of avoiding that criticism.

      Sanders is either dishonest, in denial or doesn’t have adequate self-awareness, which he should have acquired by age 30.

      • maghan says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 7:04 am

        Just dishonest. But what did Trump say that Sanders finds offensive? What he said came immediately after the violent Muslim jihadist couple slaughter innocents in San Barnadino. The wife in that couple was an import from Pakistan. That exactly was the trigger for Trump’s comments. Very rational it would seem.

        Sanders is just pandering. Opposition to Islam is not based on some pseudo-racial theory but on its doctrine and those who carry out its doctrine which includes murderous acts against innocent non-Muslims.

        • Carolyne says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 10:41 am

          Sanders is too old and senile to become President. I myself am old but am not senile. Some of Sanders’ statements convince me that he has dementia.

      • Patti York says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 9:01 am

        Sanders is not in denial. He is actually being deceptive and manipulative. I for one reject his

        attempt to inflict GUILT on those of us who speak the truth about islam.

      • Fessitude says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 2:39 pm

        Yes scherado, and one could “compare” Billl Clinton to a misshapen eggplant, because his head & face sort of look like one. That would be about the level of your political science analysis here…

        For example, any polity on earth could be “compared” with Nazi Germany — for example:

        Nazi Germany had a state; all polities have a state.

        Nazi Germany was comprised of lots of people; all polities are comprised of lots of people.

        Nazi Germany had laws; all polities have laws.

        Nazi Germany organized production of goods and services in certain ways; all polities organize production of goods and services in certain ways…. etc.

        That’s the charade we’re getting from scherado.

        • scherado says

          Apr 5, 2016 at 5:10 am

          Well, your level of analysis leads us to the facts that Hitler had two eyes, ears, a nose–similarly to Donald Trump.

          It is very simple: politicians as a whole have a bad reputation because we have been taught that it is the proper reaction to candidate X–until otherwise informed, possibly never. When someone attempts to take the high road, we should be suspicious and convinced over time. Of course, I’m referring to Ted Cruz. I’ve been watching him since he was elected as Senator. I, also, watched and measured Donald Trump and he taught me that the one-hit-wonder Patrick Swayze had his song translated into a lifestyle, “He’s like the wind.”

          My Sister’s Sister-in-law posted a picture of Sanders with the caption, “The only honest one.” She is what the legendary Bob Grant used to call a political moron. There are such people among us. your level of analysis leads us to the facts that Hitler had two eyes, ears, a nose–similarly to Donald Trump.

          It is very simple: the

    • BC says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 8:12 am

      Exactly but the high priests of multiculturalism (which even Merkel has said is a failure) will not recognise that, It is the Muslims who are calling for the extermination of Jews, straight from Mein Kampf. not the Jews who are calling for the extermination of Muslims. In fact it is Muslims leaders who repeatedly deny the Holocaust even happened. If the Jews had been treated in Nazi Germany as well as Muslims are treated in Western countries today there would have been no Holocaust.
      12,000 Jews gave their lives in the defence of Germany in WW1 and many won the Iron cross. One of the ironies of history was that Hitler’s Cross was pinned on him by a Jewish officer!

    • quotha raven says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 8:59 am

      To Hope: As brill and succcinct as any assessment I’ve seen here: well done, Hope!

      Cheers!

      quotha raven

      • Hope says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 8:02 pm

        Thanks, quotha raven!

    • mike malfi says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 12:59 pm

      of course, big surprise, he “discovers hes jewish” so he plays the holocaust card.

    • Fessitude says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 2:21 pm

      Unfortunately, they’re both.

      The second half of Hope’s statement reflects the primary problem; while the first half reflects the secondary problem — the problem of the problem.

      (The primary problem being, naturally, Islam & Muslims; the secondary problem being the problem of nearly the entire Allah-damned West stubbornly refusing to see and properly digest the primary problem.)

      (Muslims “are” both by virtue of what they are defined as, sociopolitically & culturally; and, unfortunately and infuriatingly, we remain stuck with our Western Mainstream intruding itself into the Conversation about this definition, even as we continue to beat our heads against the walls of their Box they can’t seem to think outside of…)

    • epistemology says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 5:57 pm

      To the point., Muzies persecute people of other faiths only because they draw some funny cartoons about the self-appointed prophet. Sanders is an idiot . Doesn’t he know about Hitler’s buddy Hajj al Amin al Husseini the grand mufti of Jerusalem? He didn’t want any Jews in former Palestine, So he encouraged Hitler to kill them all in Europe.Hitler and the mufti were two of a kind.

      Found some interesting job offer for all the people posting here.Clean the loos in Porkistan.There is only one prerequisite being non muzzie.We can all get these dream jobs. How much the muzzies respect unbelievers.

    • Bindon Blood says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 9:19 pm

      Agreed. The Lefty twits have got it back to front. The Muslims are not in the place of the Jews,they are the Nazis. The Jews,alas ,are still the Jews ,still taking the flack.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 10:26 pm

      Excellent comment, Hope!

      • Hope says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 11:15 pm

        Thanks, gravenimage!

    • Champ says

      Apr 5, 2016 at 2:16 am

      Muslims are not the new Jews. Muslims are the old Nazis.

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      Brava, Hope!

    • R says

      Apr 6, 2016 at 12:23 am

      Which, in turn, were the old Muslims.

  2. abad says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 2:36 pm

    Bernie Sanders is too self-loathing – he will never make it as president of the United States. He should quit while he’s ahead.

    • awake says

      Apr 3, 2016 at 7:52 pm

      Sanders is not self-loathing. He is simply appealing to his base, made up of intolerant, indoctrinated liberals, illegal aliens, jihadists and dependents of the government welfare state. Jew or not, Sanders’ rejection of AIPAC is wholly unremarkable based on his affiliation with the Democrats.

      Independent my derrière.

      • mortimer says

        Apr 3, 2016 at 9:00 pm

        Does Sanders believe Israel has a right to exist?

        • Richie says

          Apr 3, 2016 at 9:36 pm

          he may be an ethnic Jew, but he is an atheist- I suspect he is very anti Israel, as are other hard left non reigious Jews like Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein

        • Rob says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 4:22 am

          Or as the UN has just announced the world’s biggest abuser of women’s rights.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 10:31 pm

          Bernie has vaguely said he supports Israel’s right to exist, but he was also the first US Senator to boycott Netanyahu’s speech to Congress last year.

          He has also praised Obama’s appeasement of Iran, which has threatened to “wipe Israel off the map”.

          Disturbing stuff.

      • abad says

        Apr 3, 2016 at 10:42 pm

        Of course Sanders is self-loathing. If he wasn’t he would not be so quick to defend Islam when he knows good and well (or does he?) that Muslims want to exterminate the Jews on earth.

        Oh and Democrat Jews too? They’re anti-Israel too

    • Polk1970 says

      Apr 3, 2016 at 11:05 pm

      Maybe that’s why these mindless and/or brainwashed young people love this old bastard

      • Mark Swan says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 3:03 am

        Modern media has pushed distorted concepts, so much so that many of our young people today—never having seen the other side presented—assume that these distorted concepts are correct!

        • DFD says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 3:00 pm

          Mark Swan says: “Modern media has pushed distorted concepts, so much so…assume that these distorted concepts are correct!”

          Indeed. Now ask yourself this: What do they have to compare the medias (dis-) information with? They need the inclination to do so, and that’s to begin with. Remember, they have to think about the next record from their favored pole-dancer, Barbie’s latest addition to her wardrobe, and all that.

          Assumed they have the inclination, let’s say they browse the net for info, they will face a bewildering choice or variety. And immediately, how and with what to compare? They have nothing to discriminate with. Moreover, they are primed by the media to consider everything out of the mainstream to be a “conspiracy theory”.

          Furthermore, they are also programmed to consider anybody, who is ten years older, to be out of touch. Thus, they wont seek help and answers from those who can help.

          They could be patient, search and then compare. Problem, patience and youth are in 999.99 out of a 1,000 mutually exclusive.

          Do I need to continue? Student’s unions, etc.? Gives you the shivers…

        • Mark Swan says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 3:35 pm

          I feel very sorry for young people of today’s world not only do they get fed on
          secular humanism pabulum…Man they don’t even have any good cartoons to
          lighten-up on…human potential is stifled.

        • DFD says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 4:17 pm

          Great minds think……

          Up with Daffy, Porky and Bugsy – and everything from Tex Avery!

          Salute my friend!

          PS: Pal, I like you and more! BTW, wouldn’t Daffy make a great president compared with the choices (disasters in waiting) you have now?

    • cs says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 1:47 pm

      He is a proper regressive.

    • scherado says

      Apr 5, 2016 at 5:15 am

      A Sanders does not loathe himself–similarly for any Leftist–then he is more dangerous the the Leftist who does. That Leftist might be a genuine racist behind closed doors. Think about it.

      • scherado says

        Apr 5, 2016 at 5:17 am

        Better: A Sanders does not loathe himself–similarly for any Leftist–then he is more dangerous than the Leftist who does. That Leftist might be a genuine racist behind closed doors. Think about it.

  3. Jay Boo says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 2:47 pm

    The late Christopher Hitchens had a Pope Francis spasm defending Islam.
    Bad ideas lead to bad decisions.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 10:32 pm

      What? Jay Boo, Christopher Hitchens was quite critical of Islam.

      • Jay Boo says

        Apr 5, 2016 at 3:03 am

        In general yes gravenimage. I even watched one of his debates years ago on DVD.

        But I Google the information after I read that line (below) in the article assuming it was merely a typo jumbled together or that he refuted the idea of the Ground Zero Mosque.
        From the article
        “The late Christopher Hitchens also refuted this idea when writing a few years ago about the Islamic supremacist mega-mosque at Ground Zero”
        ———————————————-

        Here is a Jihad Watch link
        http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/08/christopher-hitchens-discovers-that-the-ground-zero-mosque-imam-is-not-as-moderate-as-he-is-cracked

        • Mirren10 says

          Apr 5, 2016 at 9:49 am

          http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2010/08/maumauing_the_mosque.html

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 5, 2016 at 10:32 am

          Jay Boo and Mirren, thank you–I stand corrected.

          I had somehow missed that article in Jihad Watch back in 2010–I try to at least skim all stories, but sometimes get busy and miss some stuff. And I had not seen the article in Slate, either.

          I had intended to feature Christopher Hitchens in my “Heroes Against Jihad” series–and still might. He certainly was brave enough to take a stand against many aspects of Jihad.

          I think this just goes to show–sadly–just how few consistent Anti-Jihadists there are–educated people who really understand all aspects of the Jihad threat.

          There are a lot of good people who staunchly understand and oppose *violent* Jihad, who nonetheless seem completely unable to grasp the idea of stealth Jihad, as the supremacist Ground Zero Mosque was.

          In any case, I am indebted to you both for setting me straight. Thanks again.

        • Jay Boo says

          Apr 5, 2016 at 11:13 am

          An easy oversight GI considering how surreal it is for someone of Christopher Hitchens intellect and background to not only give Islam a free pass but to defend Muslims building a mosque anywhere.

        • Mirren10 says

          Apr 5, 2016 at 11:25 am

          ”I had intended to feature Christopher Hitchens in my “Heroes Against Jihad” series–and still might. He certainly was brave enough to take a stand against many aspects of Jihad.”

          Indeed he was.

          You make a good point about the inability to grasp the idea of stealth jihad. Maybe it’s because violent jihad is so obviously horrific and bloody, whilst opposition to stealth jihad looks, to some, as bigotry. Because they haven’t read the texts.

  4. JawsV says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 2:55 pm

    Sanders is the lunatic. Leftist Lunatic. A Jew defending the Jew-hating Muslims!!!

    • PRCS says

      Apr 3, 2016 at 8:34 pm

      I’d bet real money that Bernie doesn’t know just much Islam hates Jews.

      I don’t blame Bernie as much as I do the failure of his family, friends, and advisors for not telling him (yes, surely one or two of them must know).

      • Peggy says

        Apr 3, 2016 at 11:27 pm

        How could he not know?
        We don’t have advisors and we know it. He knows.
        In case he doesn’t know then he is ignorant and shouldn’t be anywhere near a political arena. Either way he should go.

        • Carolyne says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 10:45 am

          Of course he knows but he is so desperate to be come important that he will say anything, even something against his own interest, to be elected.

        • PRCS says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 11:35 am

          I don’t think he has a clue..

      • Mark Swan says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 3:39 pm

        Yes it seems so…but He is a politician He wants those votes…he’ll sing any song it takes.

        • quotha raven says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 4:17 pm

          To Mark Swan who sez, “…he’ll sing any song it takes.”

          Let’s hope we hear his “Swan Song” in the very near future!

          Cheers!

          quotha raven

        • Mark Swan says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 6:18 pm

          Hey quotha raven

          Cheers!

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 5, 2016 at 12:51 pm

        The thing is that anyone running for president *should* know these things–but many are either willfully ignorant, or in out-and-out denial.

        • Mark Swan says

          Apr 5, 2016 at 1:49 pm

          Yes and that selective understanding is prevalent everywhere isn’t it.

    • blitz2b says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 8:48 am

      I’ve lost all respect for Sanders…. He really needs to be educated on Islam rather than pandering to Muslims.

      Has this old fart completely lost it?

      We should all be flooding his website with the truth before he becomes another lapdog for the religion of peace…

      Hope said

      ” Muslims are NOT the “New Jews”…
      Muslims are the “Old Nazis”…”

      Just brilliant !!!

  5. Hope says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 3:04 pm

    Sanders is the only Jewish candidate running for president. And the only candidate not to address AIPAC st their recent convention. Disgraceful.

  6. somehistory says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 3:06 pm

    When he began to lose his hair, his morality and ethics…if they ever existed within him…went too.

    This statement, imo, applies directly to him as he points the finger of shame, shame, at any who criticize islam and wish to protect potential victims of the satanic beast:

    “So that is in my heart, to see what a lunatic can do by stirring up racial hatred.”

    He is doing what he can to advance *stirring up racial hatred.*

    Aiding and abetting of crimes against the innocent makes the one aiding and abetting guilty of the crimes.

    islam is a crime against mankind, begun by satan, continued by those who adhere to and advance the beast.

  7. Angry Aussie says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 3:38 pm

    I always find it fascinating that people like this get their knowledge of Islam from Imams. I wouldn’t ever ask a known car thief to hold my keys.

    • Jay Boo says

      Apr 3, 2016 at 6:15 pm

      The Muslim mind explained for Bernie

  8. Angemon says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 3:42 pm

    “On a personal note, some of you know I’m Jewish,” Sanders said during a town hall meeting here./blockquote>

    Ssssshhhhhh! Are you trying to lose support?!?!?!

    Sanders said if he is elected president, “trust me, Muslims, or anybody in this country, are not going to live in fear because of their religion, because of the color of their skin, because of the country they came from.

    I, for one, believe this – in Bernie’s America, the targets will be the “rich fat cats” who “took more than their fair share”, regardless of their religion, skin colour or country of origin. But especially if they’re WASP Americans.

    • maghan says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 7:20 am

      But Muslims are of all the so-called races. Silly man. An intellectually inquisitive person would research the history and career thoroughly and reading what intelligent scholars have said about Islam over the ages.

      If one studies the history of Islam one would see that Israel’s rebirth in the area is a form of decolonization. We know that decolonization of colonial territories has been praised as a good thing by Western and non-Western scholars. Yet the decolonization of Arab-conquered, and Islam and Arabic imposed West Asia by Israel has not been applauded. . Were Sanders a careful thinker and researcher the decolonization of West Asia would have been obvious. Alas, no.

      • Keys says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 10:08 am

        @magan
        Decolonization is a great point, instead many uncritically accept the anti-crusader mentality; and of course, the muslims have the ‘reconquista doctrine’.

      • Jack Diamond says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 10:32 am

        Because they don’t see the Muslims as colonizers and occupiers and invaders and imperialists or resistance to them as heroic, nor do they understand shari’a as akin to what they would call evil–apartheid, barbarism, fascism, totalitarianism. What Israel truly represents is the rejection of dhimmitude. The liberation from slavery. It represents the reversal of Islam and the demise of Islam, and that is intolerable to some people.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 10:36 pm

          Jack Diamond wrote:

          Because they don’t see the Muslims as colonizers and occupiers and invaders and imperialists or resistance to them as heroic…
          ……………….

          This is so true, Jack. Somehow, many in the West see Muslims as intrinsically indigenous. No matter how bloody and oppressive, they are always considered underdogs.

        • Peggy says

          Apr 5, 2016 at 12:26 am

          They are a weed but some still see them as a flower.
          They invade a territory with lightning speed and take over. Best way to deal with weeds is to pluck them out as soon as they appear.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 9:23 pm

        You wrote – “If one studies the history of Islam one would see that Israel’s rebirth in the area is a form of decolonization.”

        Yes. That is *exactly* what it is. Colonised indigenous [non-Muslim] people the world over should be Israel’s loudest and most energetic supporters, for Israel offers a model of survival and restoration. Ryan Bellerose in Canada, a Metis activist, is one of the few who has seen this: he is a passionate Zionist who doesn’t buy the ‘pity the poor “palestinians”‘ schtick for two seconds together. He finds himself constantly having to remind Jews that they are *an indigenous people* who should NOT be ashamed of having regained sovereignty on their ancestral homeland. (Another very wise observer was Armenian-American ‘John Roy Carlson’ [his nom de plume – his original name escapes me] who in his book ‘Cairo to Damascus’ [1951] describes how, when visiting Israel watched the energy with which the Jews were restoring their homeland, he was filled with visions of what might be possible for his *own* people, the Christian Armenians; basic thought was, “If the Jews can do it, why can’t we?”)

        It is my thought that the return of Israel, the rebirth of Israel, is and should be a beacon of hope and inspiration for many small, oppressed and scattered and colonised peoples, victims of Islamic jihad or of other imperial entities…

  9. wildjew says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 3:54 pm

    Mr. Sanders is an Iran-loving, Israel-hating candidate for nominee of the Democratic party. He is what we pejoratively call a “self-loathing” Jew. Pamela Geller from time to time advisedly calls this or that reprobate a Kapo — largely fellow Jews who condemn and vilify her for her good work.. Kapos are Jews who worked in the death camps, conspiring with the Germans (Nazis) in the Final Solution. It is an odious appellation but there are times it fits.

    • gerard says

      Apr 3, 2016 at 8:17 pm

      Pamela has some sympathy for the actual kapos because they had a gun at their head. She goes on to ask: “What excuse do today’s “kapos” have”?
      I am truly puzzled by the Bernie Sanders of this world. They must know that Muslims hate them. So why do they support Islam? I can only think they must be Jews in name only. Anyone who prays truly, from the heart, gains some light and understanding. People like Sanders understand nothing and so they cling to their ideology, in his case Marxism/Socialism. Muslims too, who discover prayer, as opposed to ritual recitation, eventually leave Islam.

      • Mark Swan says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 3:10 am

        Good read gerard thanks

  10. Mo says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 4:02 pm

    What idiocy. I couldn’t even finish this article.

    “In the midst of chastising Donald Trump on Saturday for showing intolerance toward Muslims,”

    What intolerance is that?

    And when will he chastise Muslims for their intolerance – to the point of MURDER – of anyone who does not bow to their ideology?

    “Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders told an audience here that some of his relatives died in the Holocaust as the result of “a lunatic … stirring up racial hatred.”

    First of all, Islam is not a race. So there is no “racial hatred”.

    Second, there are no Muslims being murdered by non-Muslims in obedience to some ideology. So what is this man even talking about?

    Last, how DARE this man compare Muslims to Jews? There are no Jews murdering people around the world in obedience to their ideology. PERIOD.

    • Mark Swan says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 3:15 am

      Dishonest little man isn’t He.

  11. Mockingjay says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 4:09 pm

    I think that in this issue you HAVE to address the heart of the matter, which seems to be avoided by “our” side of the discussion so far:
    Unfortunately, in a terrible irony of history, INDEED a lot of the accusations that were made against the Jews in Nazi-Germany – that they were secretly undermining every (western) society in which they were present, that they were “parasites”, taking the best for themselves while giving nothing in return, that their goal was world-domination at the cost of the “Arian races”, that they could NEVER be trusted because they were sneaky snakes, and even that they raped and “butchered” little blonde-haired blue-eyed children, and of course, their greatest offense, that they were the deniers and murderers of Christ – all of these things, well except the killing of Christ, are being claimed today by people who oppose Islam, by us. So yes, you could definitely make the point that the accusations are the same then and now. That the racists just found a new target for their racial hate.
    But as I said, the great irony of ironies is that while the accusations against the Jews were nothing but delusions that came out of the mind of Adolf Hitler and others like him, and were also fed,- there is no way around this – by the Catholic Church who had for centuries cursed the Jews as the “killers of Christ”, these very same accusations now made against Islam and muslims actually DO have a strong base in reality.
    So because of our history in Europe, it will be VERY difficult for a great many people to accept that THIS time, the threat is REAL. That this time, the accusations are founded in REALITY.
    Unfortunately I do not expect such people will come to grasp with this reality until the body count will be well up.

    • Alan says

      Apr 3, 2016 at 6:53 pm

      Exactly

    • DFD says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 3:09 pm

      Indeed

    • Western Canadian says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 3:22 pm

      ” by the Catholic Church who had for centuries cursed the Jews as the “killers of Christ””

      You really should make an effort to educate yourself, before posting your drivel on this or any other board.

      • Lanya LaPunta says

        Apr 5, 2016 at 9:09 am

        The church of Rome massacred far more Protestants than it did Jews.

    • Fessitude says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 3:50 pm

      A sly post by the perhaps fittingly named Mockingjay…

  12. Enrico says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 4:23 pm

    Islam is criminally diabolical. A false religion of the devil and an enemy of humanity.

  13. Troybeam says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 4:48 pm

    Sanders needs to read history where Hitler and Islam worked together to build the concentration camps that killed millions of Jews and other people Hitler felt were inferior to the human race. Picture history is out there if one cares to look.

    Sanders is not fit to be in the oval office, its that simple. What I will never understand is how some Jewish people support Islam.

    • abad says

      Apr 3, 2016 at 10:46 pm

      My guess is those are the same Jews who “believe” it always rains on Jewish high holy days

      :eyeroll:

      talk about superstition!!!

  14. jewdog says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 4:49 pm

    Sure, it’s the Jewish Mirror Image Fallacy. Why, they’re just like us! Allahu Ah Baloney! Actually, they resemble the Nazis to a greater degree.
    I’m afraid that if Trump is the nominee, then he won’t have the intellectual capacity to adequately refute this dangerous nonsense.

    • maghan says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 7:33 am

      All this boils down to the enormous power of ideas. The liberal and non-liberal West have been conditioned now for more than 65 years that the existence of Israel is a travesty–feeding on the centuries of antisemitism that existed before.

      So even many Jews have been conditioned to believe that decolonizing portions of the Middle East from Arab settler colonialism is a bad thing. In the same way that a perfectly sane Muslim could be brainwashed into strapping on a suicide vest and wreaking havoc and destruction while stupidly murdering him/herself is a good thing.

  15. Tyler Lenox says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 4:55 pm

    The Jewish “Holocaust” is a ruse and a scam. But don’t let the truth get in the way of the lies.
    The Jewish communists killed 66 million Christians in Russia, however, for real, not made up. It’s a huge coincidence that Sanders is also a Jewish communist…

    http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/06/red-cross-expose-judaic-holocaust-hoax/

    Auschwitz – The Final Count: https://archive.org/details/Auschwitz-TheFinalCount
    The greatest lie ever told – The Holocaust – 2015 Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmrHBT5h-BA
    Ernst Zundel – Setting the Record Straight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtdkJpl6M-k

    International Red Cross Report Confirms Holocaust Six Million Jews Hoax:

    http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/06/red-cross-expose-judaic-holocaust-hoax/
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/international-red-cross-report-confirms-holocaust-six-million-jews-hoax/

    The Six Million Jews hoax in 10 newspapers from 1915-1938 before the final Jewish “Holocaust” hoax was finally set in our “History” books: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk

    The Jewish “Holocaust” scam $$$$$:

    http://therealistreport.com/serbian-parliament-gives-jews-1-million-per-year-for-holocaust-restitution/
    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/1.706888

    • duh_swami says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 6:59 am

      I used to work with a former British soldier who was one of the first liberates of a Nazi death //labor camp…Because of what he saw3 with his own eyes, if you told him the holocaust was a scam, you would be picking yourself up off the floor…

    • maghan says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 7:44 am

      66 million? How is that possible? Of the big names, Lenin, Stalin, Beria, etc. did not identify as Jewish. Only Trotsky, and he was exiled out of Russia.

    • Keys says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 11:57 am

      @ Tyler Lenox

      “Get it all on record now – get the films – get the witnesses – because somewhere down the track of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”
      – General Dwight D. Eisenhower, on future Holocaust denial

      Eisenhower was right about your ilk, Tyler.

    • Western Canadian says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 3:43 pm

      One of the kids I went to school with, had a much older father…. Who happened to be one of the first allied soldiers to enter and liberate one of the camps that tyler wishes he was lucky enough to operate… Even decades after the event, it could bring tears to his eyes, and render him speechless at the unspeakable crimes he had helped to end… And he was honest enough to admit that it took all his moral and physical strength, to NOT turn his gun on every camp guard, and every German in general he met….

      Tyler, you are absolute filth. You are not human, you are not animal, you are sub-animal. You are unfit to live among human beings. And if no one has ever told you…. unless you know how to go ‘dark’ on the internet, yes, you are traceable. I hope we meet some day. And when we do, the first and last things you do, will be to wet and fill your pants.

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 5, 2016 at 12:24 am

        Western Canadian wrote:

        One of the kids I went to school with, had a much older father…. Who happened to be one of the first allied soldiers to enter and liberate one of the camps
        …………………..

        I had the same experience, Western Canadian. I also had a friend whose father still had the camp number tattooed on his arm.

        Holocaust denial set in before the last of the victims have even passed away. *Sickening*.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 5, 2016 at 12:21 am

      Tyler Lenox wrote:

      The Jewish “Holocaust” is a ruse and a scam. But don’t let the truth get in the way of the lies.
      ………………………..

      The Holocaust is the most chronicled atrocity in human history–by its perpetrators, its surviving victims, and by the liberators of the camps.

      More:

      The Jewish communists killed 66 million Christians in Russia, however, for real, not made up. It’s a huge coincidence that Sanders is also a Jewish communist…
      ………………………..

      Very few of the big names in the Communist Party in the Soviet Union were Jewish–with some exceptions, the Soviet Union itself was very antisemitic–just look at the treatment of the “Refuseniks”.

      The Soviet Communists were not killing in the name of Judaism.

      And Communists killed millions elsewhere, as well–are you claiming that it was “Jews” killing in the name of Communism in China, Vietnam, and Cambodia as well?

      Moreover, as horrific as the toll was in the Soviet Union, it is usually placed at about a third of this figure. In fact, I have never seen a single estimate that high.

      And while I am *no* fan of Bernie Sanders, the idea that he wants to mass-murder American Christians is just a ludicrous calumny.

      And why is this fool even posting here? He’s never commented here before that I can recall–and a search turns up nothing. He clearly has no problem with Islamic savagery.

      • quotha raven says

        Apr 5, 2016 at 2:54 am

        To Gravenimage, who wonders about Tyler Lenox as follows, “And why is this fool even posting here? He’s never commented here before that I can recall–and a search turns up nothing.”

        I have the same misgivings as you, Graven – He is one of the most toxic commenters I’ve run across here, and his name sounds like a fiction, made up, like a fool’s idea of a Waspy name. I believe I have seen him in these parts once before, fairly recently. I think he should be barred. He is vicious, hateful and ignorant and seems to feel this is an appropriate place for him to post poisonous anti-Semitic spew. It is not. I think he should be censored right out of this blog.

        Cheers!

        quotha raven

    • Champ says

      Apr 5, 2016 at 1:00 am

      https://youtu.be/WqtcnMZA0Hc

  16. Ren says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 4:58 pm

    Poor Sanders. He is being fallen in to the islamophobia narrative. We ain’t want another leftist no more, do we?

  17. Wellington says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 5:11 pm

    Sanders is pretty much clueless all around——on capitalism, on the importance of American military power, on federal spending, on the uniqueness of America, on the role of the judiciary in America (that it should interpret the law and not write it), on the uniqueness of Israel, on the greatness of Western Civilization, on what above all made America great (freedom), on a balanced view of American history, on the men and women in blue in America and, of course, certainly on Islam. And this is just a starter list. Please, anyone, feel free to add to it.

    A foolish human being is a sad sight. But an old person who is a foolish human being is an extra sad sight since life has taught such a person so very little. Respecting the latter, Bernie is certainly someone who comes to mind here. But here’s the worst part in all this: Bernie has millions upon millions of supporters, especially the youth of America who, more than any other young generation in all of American history, even the Baby Boomers’ generation, remain insouciantly ignorant of so much they should not be ignorant about in the first place.

    • Kepha says

      Apr 3, 2016 at 6:54 pm

      There’s no fool like an old fool.

      Unfortunately, Bolshie Brooklyn Boynie is very attractive to most of the young voters I have recently met and interacted with. They don’t buy it that it’s the O’s economy which gives them few job prospects, or that the ideologues who taught them in high school and college may possibly be wrong. They don’t see that when the money’s taxed out of the possible employers, it isn’t there for either investment or personnel. Add to this that the youth of America don’t have a mental universe that offers them the knowledge needed to see through the Old Fool; nor are they aware that they have been conditioned rather than taught.

      • Oliver says

        Apr 3, 2016 at 7:08 pm

        You are right, K.

        Look at Seattle- first to raise the minimum wage to $15.—fewer jobs; and many of those who got the raise- WANT FEWER HOURS. (tO KEEP THE FREEBIES); AND OTHERS-LOST THEIR JOBS. And, in some fields, automation is taking hold.

        On a sort of personal note- my father told me, after the Korean War, the minimum wage was about 35 cents an hour. (A nice house was about $12,000; in a MASH episode, one of the doctor’s paid $35,000 for a house- and was the envy of others-so expensive). Anyhow, at 35 cents, cheaper to NOT buy a forklift to lift pallets of goods; when the minimum was raised, (now, no computers in those days, paper and pencil) owners ( where my father was a middle level manager of a department-but not the decision maker- the owners analyzed the costs of hiring workers/laborers or buying a forklift. The forklift won,. Wages went up, unskilled workers were out fo work.

      • Wellington says

        Apr 3, 2016 at 8:10 pm

        Ditto, Kepha.

      • maghan says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 7:49 am

        It could be that they are just disgusted with Hillary Clinton who has been plotting to take over the WH ever since she met Bill. The Clintons have so much control of the Democratic that they were allowed to seal things up so tightly that no other party member/politician was allowed to compete with Hillary for Party presidential candidate.

        • Kepha says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 8:21 am

          @maghan: Anyone’s disgust over Shrillary Shroooooooo is perfectly understandable to me. Apart from what you’ve already said about her ambition and how closed the political process actually is, we have her “losing” her Whitewater files until the day after the statute of limitations ran out. Further, that the GOP in the Senate could not make more of Shrillary’s playing fast and loose with classified information and pull together an impeachment while she was SecState tells me that they’re the gang that couldn’t shoot straight. I suppose that the disgust over our politics as usual goes far to explain both the successes of Brooklyn Bolshie Boynie and Loudmouth Trumpet.

          A further thing I note about Brooklyn Bolshie Boynie is that he has a lot of resonance with ageing radicals who’ve never grown up. But it’s scary when they, of all people, seem to have learned nothing from the collapse of the Communist experiment, its unpalatable “omlette” of cracked human heads, and its repeat failures in places like Zimbabwe and Venezuela.

          Perhaps the only hope for a revivified right in American politics is when we have a lot of young victims of the sexual revolution whom we can’t ignore along with another round of ruinous economic policies with Islamic ugliness from which even the most willfully obtuse won’t be able to avert their eyes. Unhappily, after the Left has upped the political ante so much, I fear that the reaction (with which I will be in sympathy), will probably be a bit too ugly.

      • Mazo says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 6:11 pm

        Lon Nol style right wing nationalism is great. Anything which upsets the imperialists and their plans.

        Had Obongo and American imperialist liberals been in office during the war they would have opposed Lon Nol’s plan to liquidate all Vietnamese south of the 17th parallel. Too many ARVN and Viet Cong corpses to process and it might give Native Americans some ideas, seeing a restored Champa.

        • Kepha says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 7:17 pm

          Mazo, you blame Lon Nol for genocidal fantasies about the “Yuon”; but it was Mao’s admirer Saloth Sar who actually carried out ethnic cleansings in Cambodia–including massacres of Cham and Malay Muslims.

        • Mazo says

          Apr 5, 2016 at 9:33 am

          Where did I say I oppose Lon Nol? Pol Pot killed all the FULRO leaders and stopped the liberation of Champa.

          Real right wing nationalists don’t work with other right wingers from enemy nations. All your puppets like Somoza were fakes.

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 5, 2016 at 12:25 am

        Good posts, Wellington and Kepha.

    • Oliver says

      Apr 3, 2016 at 7:11 pm

      I posted this elsewhere-on this post, but earlier-I read that before his first elected position, he collected welfare. Never worked; always feeding at the public trough.

      So, how could he know anything about capitalism? he is just pathetic.

  18. revereridesagain says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 5:36 pm

    Speaking of which, here’s another reason to not waste your time on Facebook, folks. Now they’ve given the OK to the Passover matzos blood libel!

    http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2016/04/facebook-investigates-decides-blood.html

    https://www.algemeiner.com/2016/04/03/facebook-tells-blogger-complaining-about-passover-blood-libel-on-egyptian-media-outlets-page-that-it-doesnt-violate-community-standards/#

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 11:47 pm

      Facebook investigates, decides blood libel does not violate community standards
      …………………….

      *Shameful*. What sort of community, and what sort of standards?

      And of course this slanderous story came from the Muslim world.

  19. revereridesagain says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 5:41 pm

    Hey Dave, women are going to be the losers either way this campaign cycle when it comes to the “rapefugees”. Bolshevik Bernie will look the other way while they rape us. Then Trump and Cruz will force us to bear the rapist a nice bouncing baby jihadist-in-training! Because it’s not like we’re fully human beings with rights or anything…

    • maghan says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 7:53 am

      Presidents are not lawmakers. So what do Trump and Cruz have to do with rape and child birth?

  20. Jay Boo says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 6:29 pm

    Just look at that photo.

    Hot Head Old Bernie is really steamed and PERCOLATING.
    Is this someone we want to be in charge of the nuclear arsenal?

    • Mark Swan says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 3:33 am

      Nope I couldn’t even see Him with the responsibility of a small town mayor.

      • Allan Mandrowski says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 6:48 am

        Yet he was mayor of Burlington and Burlington thrived very well.

        I expected the end of a town under the leadership of a spooky communist irreligious leader if I had to believe the drivel coming from most of the commenters on here.

        • Jay Boo says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 11:48 am

          Compared to Hillary he is wonderful.
          Of course he has some flaws as shown in the article.

        • Mark Swan says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 4:17 pm

          Good job on Googling Allan Mandrowski…drivel…it’s a good word.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 5, 2016 at 12:35 am

          Sanders was not able to impose Socialism on Burlington. That doesn’t mean Burlington under Socialism would have been hunky-dory.

  21. Judi says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 6:53 pm

    The man is pathetic and a disgrace to the Jewish religion. He couldn’t run a bath, let alone a country.

    • Kepha says

      Apr 3, 2016 at 6:56 pm

      Does Brooklyn Bolshie Boynie even pretend to honor the Torah, or the God who gave it?

      • Oliver says

        Apr 3, 2016 at 7:01 pm

        Kepha- I would say NO. To both.

        I read (I think it was on JTA) (Jewish Telegraphic Agency) that the kibbutz he was on, was communistic and had the hammer & sickle as its “flag” or emblem. (I never bothered to check if this was in fact, true).

        he is pathetic. looks like a corpse.

        he and Hillary Clinton would make a good pair-as one radio person put it–Mrs. Marx and Mr. Lenin, or the other way around-doesn’t matter.

        • maghan says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 7:57 am

          Hillary knows nothing about Marxism. She is a corrupt Wall Street pilot fish. Only a greedy pro- corporate person would accept $250,000 for a nonsense talk. There’s bound to be a payback time.

          Wall Street will tell her when the time is ready–“Jump” and she will say “How high”?

        • Kepha says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 7:20 pm

          @maghan: Tell me that Shrillary Shroooooooo is corrupt and I will simply nod agreement. But she is not ignorant of Marxism, and even wrote papers on Saul Alinsky’s ideas when she was in college–and Alinsky was Marxist to his knucklebones.

  22. Oliver says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 6:57 pm

    Sanders is A COMMUNIST.

    What could one expect.? I read that before his first elected office, he collected welfare; never worked in anything –always feeding at the public trough.

    So, he would favor free everything- not costing hi anything.

  23. Resist says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 7:31 pm

    Muslims, or anybody in this country, are not going to live in fear because of their religion ? That’s rich when the whole world is in danger because of iSSlam!

  24. awake says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 8:11 pm

    Non-Muslim body count worldwide since 9/11 is fast-approaching the 30,000 mark.

    Muslim body count due to “Islamophobia” in the same time period, next to nothing.

    Do the math. Math is remorseless.

    And the term “self-loathing” is a canard. The term traitor against humanity is more apropos.

    Anyone who supports Islam and Muslims at the expense of the non-Muslim world, including, and especially, Israel is a traitor against humanity plain and simple.

    • Champ says

      Apr 3, 2016 at 8:48 pm

      Exactly, Awake. Great comment.

    • mortimer says

      Apr 3, 2016 at 9:10 pm

      Awake wrote: “body count worldwide since 9/11 is fast-approaching the 30,000 mark”

      I don’t know where your count is from, but since 9/11, there were certainly over 20,000 deadly jihad attacks, some killing dozens. A total jihad-casualty count since 9/11 is probably close to 100,000 when those who died outright are combined with those who died of wounds. This is an unacceptable human cost to having Islam in the world. It’s obvious Islam should be banned as the greatest source of hate crimes.

      • awake says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 1:48 pm

        I didn’t consider Muslim casualties.

    • Fessitude says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 3:55 pm

      30,000? That seems a vast underestimation. I’d say Boko Haram in Nigeria alone has murdered that many in the past 15 years.

      • Kepha says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 7:21 pm

        @Fessitude, I am sad to report that you are probably right–sad, because I hold to a life-affirming religion.

  25. Matthieu Baudin says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 8:29 pm

    Don’t expect any new ideas or action from Mr Sanders in relation to International Jihad Terror. He, like so many others would leave us waiting and waiting for leadership on that score while our security and quality of life is steadily eroded away throughout his (prospective) presidential term.

  26. Gerald Mucci says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 8:43 pm

    Yup, exactly what we need: an ignorant, moral-equivalence-plagued old fart as our president.

    • Kepha says

      Apr 5, 2016 at 4:49 pm

      Waaaaaaaallll….The ignorant, moral-equivalence-plagued old fart might still be better than a sleazy, brass-voiced, corrupt, middle-aged proven incompetent (as SecState) old bag. But so would a posturing, poor-robbing (via eminent domain and casinos) loudmouth. The fact that more than 50% of the USA supports Shrillary Shroooooooo in several match-ups speaks very poorly for these United States.

      Announcement: Uncle Kepha claims no copuright on the name Shrillary Shroooooooooooo. If you like it as a monniker for the Democratic front-runner, feel free to use it.

  27. mortimer says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 8:46 pm

    Sanders claimed: ““trust me, Muslims, or anybody in this country, are not going to live in fear because of their religion”

    What’s the guarantee that Muslims will not create a new reign of terror in America as they are doing in many other countries? All Muslim majority countries either become fascist police states or haven’t enough police to control the various jihad terror groups. Bombs go off in those countries every week. Those who try to exercise freedom of expression are murdered.

    When a country reaches 5% Muslim population, there is terrorism every week. The US has a 1% Muslim population. Why seek more trouble?

    • Kepha says

      Apr 3, 2016 at 10:17 pm

      Heck, the LGBT’s are perhaps 2% of the population, but you can’t call their behavior sinful, or openly support traditional marriage, without jeopardizing a public sector and many private sector jobs, or be ruined by lawsuit if you’re self-employed. They’re already playing havoc on the First Amendment.

      • Jay Boo says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 11:43 am

        Sinful?
        I avoid using that word.
        I do not lose any sleep over whether LGBT behavior is sinful.
        We see what happens when ISIS tosses gays off buildings in the name of sin.

      • DFD says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 3:36 pm

        Kepha says: “…Heck, the LGBT’s are perhaps 2% of the population…”

        Hi Kepha,

        Personally I ‘guesstimate’ the US-Muslim population (infiltration) to be somewhere between 3% and 4%.

        Consider, they *breed*, they also bring in relations, and they *breed*. Apart from the newcomers, who, yes, *breed*.

        Now add to that the fact that western governments notoriously downplay the real numbers (and facts!) concerning Muslims and you can see why I think in terms of 3% to 4% – at the least. Indicative of this is also that in the US lethal terror acts are more prevalent than in Europe. Conversely, in Europe the ‘small’ (??) terror attacks such as rapes, beatings or outright intimidation are comparatively high. Same holds true for attacks on military personnel. I cannot even guess an explanation for this.

        Of interest to watch and to listen to is this, go to: https://youtu.be/lxdoztoBEuc Although, the data is a bit old, and gov data. Still, well worth watching and listening to. Note the low percentage figure, and compare with the high incidence rate, the latter indicates a much higher percentage value.

        • DFD says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 3:49 pm

          PS from DFD to Kepha:

          Compare for instance the numbers for the UK and Germany, I am Anglo-German, this cant be real. Even if one takes into account Merkel’s recent ‘imports’. The UK number must be dramatically higher, there were, and are, Muslim immigrants from all over the empire, later the common wealth. And still continuing. They have very large families, and around 1976 the numbers touted in various UK newspapers was about 3 million – population base then: Approx 65-70 million, including Muslims. Bradford, Luton, Dewsbury etc. are practically Muslim towns. Birmingham may soon have a Muslim majority.

  28. aleister Cromley says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 8:53 pm

    An Arab Muslim American family were told to leave a plane over health and safety issues, something to do with their car seat. Meanwhile millions of Jews, gypsys, homosexuals, political prisoners were wiped out in death camps. Yeah, no comparison there Sanders, nice Orwellian thought control though.

  29. mortimer says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 9:20 pm

    Sanders declared: “… to see what a lunatic can do by stirring up racial hatred.”

    What is the race of Islam?

    • Kepha says

      Apr 3, 2016 at 10:18 pm

      Maybe Brooklyn Bolshie Boynie is the lunatic?

      • Mark Swan says

        Apr 5, 2016 at 5:25 am

        Exactly

  30. Dov Berrol says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    It’s amazing how so much of Mohammedan identity is based on appropriating scores of components from Israelite/Hebrew/Jewish civilization. Everything from our stories and characters in our sacred scriptures, to our Land of Israel and our city of Yerushalayim. Now they even want to steal that unique enemy we have called Jew Hatred or anti-Semitism. They can’t even be original in the discrimination they receive. They say people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder have intense jealousy and envy of others. This answers a lot about Muslim identity. They can’t stand it when Jews receive empathy or understanding or support or respect from the non-Jewish world. Pretty twisted, eh?

    • Kepha says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 7:24 pm

      How odd
      Of God
      To choose
      The Jews.

      How odder still
      Are those who choose
      The Jewish God
      And hate the Jews.

      While we’re at it, I’ve always maintained that there is an ancient, international Jewish plot hatched in the shadow of the Second Temple itself to put the whole world under a Jewish king–it’s called Christianity.

      • Mark Swan says

        Apr 5, 2016 at 1:33 am

        Absolutely I heard something like that myself…Good One

  31. Peggy says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 11:14 pm

    This idiot doens’t know his own history.
    Muslims were Nazis and Hitler’s allies back then. How can he compare the two is beyond me.

    • DFD says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 4:07 pm

      Peggy:

      Very few Muslims were allied with Hitler. Most Muslims were and are allied with the allies – the greatest losers of these unholy alliances were, and still are, the Christians in North Africa and the Middle East.

      That being so because the alliances by the western powers with the Muslims still hold. NATO, the US & EU are beholden to Saudi Arabia and its gulf allies. During the Yugoslav civil war it were the Bosnians (Muslims) who established the first rape and torture camps. When the Serbs gained the upper hand and took vengeance, NATO moved. The result of the western alliance/submission to Islam? The western powers, primarily the US, established 3 Muslim countries in Central Europe. Bosnia Herzegovina, Kosovo and Albania. The latter reinforced. Kosovo, where the Serbian king Lazar bought valuable time for Europe against the Muslims – his battle cry: “Today we give up everything for Christ! And Christ for nothing!”

      After the west established the Muslim countries in Europe, ethnic cleansing began immediately. In Kosovo 30,000 churches destroyed. A friend of mine was on duty there, as a “peacekeeper”, all they could do was watch. Strict orders not to interfere, from NATO!

      NATO was and is not run by Germany, and Washington isn’t in Bavaria. But hatred feels good, doesn’t it? Makes one feel so righteous…

      • Peggy says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 9:34 pm

        I don’t think it was a minority.
        http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/hitler-muslim-brotherhood.html

        https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/07/19/the-muslim-nazi-connection/

        • DFD says

          Apr 5, 2016 at 1:23 pm

          Hi Peggy,

          I think my reply to your post was a bit harsh, my excuse: Heat of the thread… Nevertheless, it was harsh, apologies with a 🙂

          What happened was, your post came a bit across like throwing a stone, and as Jesus said: “Those without sin may cast the ….”

          The point I was trying to make, and not well, is this: Yes there were indeed strong connections with those figures. I didn’t sat anything about ‘minority or minor’. The admiration of the Muslims for the freak, Alois Schicklegruber, speaks volumes.

          However, we should not lose sight of how we (the west in general) are being sold down the river, for a long time. British Empire, now ‘Common wealth’, French empire, the US with SA, google up Aramco and take it from there. Is it sickening, a sell out, or both?

          “And ‘they’ are still ad it…” You know, ‘our long term allies/friends etc. – has nothing to do with Islam…’ et cetera est, as nauseum.

          And people like us are trying, the little what we can do, to pull the mask of that.

          All the best
          DFD

      • Peggy says

        Apr 5, 2016 at 7:20 pm

        DFD says

        April 5, 2016 at 1:23 pm

        Hi Peggy,

        I think my reply to your post was a bit harsh, my excuse: Heat of the thread… Nevertheless, it was harsh, apologies with a
        ===========================
        Thank you for the apology but it really wasn’t needed. You did not upset or insult me in any way. Differences of opinion is what makes a good debate and how we learn.
        My reply to you was short and to the point but not because I felt upset in any way but because I really didn’t think I needed to expand when I was already posting links. Hope you don’t take that as a sign.
        That’s the problem with written language. Lacking expressions and can be interpreted more than one way.

        The really important thing is that we are all on the same side and contributing our ideas and references.

  32. Underzog says

    Apr 3, 2016 at 11:47 pm

    ernie is a Communist; not a Jew. He doesn’t call himself a Jew unless it is to perform a Joseph Goebbels propaganda technique of saying that those that are killing Jews are actually the new Jews (Judging from Brussels; etal, it is not just Jews they are killing). The international Socialist — Bolshevik Bernie Sanders — is borrowing from the National Socialists (Nazi), Joseph Goebbels, to support murderers of Jews, Christians, and even sympathetic reporters of the Islamic, terrorist cause; e.g., Steve Sotoloff.

    • Fessitude says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 3:59 pm

      Many Jews in America like Bernie because they consider him a Jew (I’ve even seen a discomfitting number of Jewish commenters at the supposedly counter-jihad forum at Frontpage.com (headed by David Horowitz, an ally of Robert Spencer) write glowing things about Bernie.

  33. citycat says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 12:04 am

    Hitler used Muslims, or Muslims used Hitler.
    Who today is killing Jews and Christians and homosexuals and Atheists and apostate Muslims and Muslims and have threatened the Buddhists and the whole world, and did make a bid for the Engelish throne?
    Islãm.
    Muslims are victims of only Islãm.

  34. More Ham Ed says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 2:07 am

    “BERNIE SANDERS MEETS WITH LEADER OF DESIGNATED TERRORIST GROUP”

    “In November 2014, CAIR itself was designated a terrorist group by the United Arab Emirates (UAE) government.”

    “[Rasha] Mubarak retweets messages made by the Palestinian Information Center (PIC), the media arm of Hamas.”

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/262171/bernie-sanders-meets-leader-designated-terrorist-joe-kaufman

  35. Laura L. says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 3:27 am

    That is the most ridiculous thing I’ve read! Said by a Socialist-Commie (and Commies are basically antisemitic!). While Muslims murder gays, Christians, Jews and the Koran tells them in109 places to kill non-muslims for one reason – the other person is not of their faith (order it from the library and see for yourself!!!). You don’t see Jews murdering gays or anyone else for their religion, etc. unless it’s in self- defense. Also, our Head of the FBI, Haney admitted our vetting system was not working adequately with the Arabic refugees (which means terrorists could sneak in!) and then is when Trump made the “common sense” statement that he suggested we put a TEMPORARY hold onMuslims until our system is working right! That is not at all a racist statement. That is a smart Common Sense statement from someone trying to protect his country & people!

  36. heidi granchelli says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 3:37 am

    and yet bill maher, ben shapiro, and so many others who say they want an end to muslim/islamic ideology campaign against Trump who is the only pres cand standing by a ban to unvetted muslim immigration. one wonders about whether money from wealthy globalists will win if those who truly want to save this country (spencer? geller?) can get behind a presidential leader who is not being paid to continue the madness. either we stand together or we hang separately –which shall we choose

    • dajjal says

      Apr 5, 2016 at 1:25 am

      Chump is like Obamination eight years ago: : a blank screen upon which damned fools project their dreams, hopes, wishes and desires. In the process they hypnotize themselves into believing that the screen which reflects their wishes actually shares them.

      Chump talks about defeating ISIS, not realizing that Islam is the enemy. ISIS can not be defeated without exterminating Islam. He does not know about Allah’s imperatives, threat & promise which motivate Muslims to Jihad. He does not know that Muslims go to war or to Hell.

      He talks about a temporary moratorium, not realizing that it must be permanent and retroactive. He would pass his rich Muslim friends through the moratorium, ignorant of the fact that Muslims are enemies, never friends of infidels. Does he not know that wealthy Saudi princes finance terrorism???

      Anyone who believes Chump is opposed to Islam after what he said about Pamela Geller, AFDI and the Draw Muhammad Contest is too stupid to vote.

      For America’s sake learn the difference between statesmen and demagogues!!!

  37. Baucent says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 3:49 am

    Sanders may be a cultural Jew, rather than a religious Jew, but it does make for an interesting scenario if Hillary dropped out and Sanders became to Democrat nominee. Where would the “muslim” vote go in that situation? Would they vote for a Jew?

    • Kepha says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 7:30 pm

      The Muslim vote is all over the map. Even at the height of Dubya Bush’s wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, he had American Muslim supporters.

      Frankly, I’d love it if Shrillary Shrooooooo dropped out–better yet if she were indicted and convicted for her fast-and-loose games with classified information. I’m no fan of Shrill, but I suspect that even if someone like Brooklyn Bolshie Boynie or Loudmouth Trumpet became POTUS, he’d have to deal with our constitutional separation of powers and the real power exercised by Congress and the courts.

      • Oliver says

        Apr 6, 2016 at 6:22 pm

        K– Congress, (for the past 8 years) has been a big nothing. Mc Conell or Reid-same; Pelosi or Paul Ryan-ditto. Ryan had this “great” and “grandiose” plan to reduce the deficit. AND WHAT HAPPENED? 283 OR SO AMENDMENTS TO THE TRANSPORTATION BILL.

        THE BUDGET–ONE MINOR (MAJOR TO MANY MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE) (SOCIAL SECURITY-FOR WIDOWS) ( SCREWING THE PEOPLE). NOTHING DONE ON THE CONGRESSIONAL PIG FEEDING TROUGH; OR THE PORK BENEFITS THAT HELP INCUMBENTS GET RE-ELECTED.

        PELOSI AND REID-PROBABLY MORE HONEST.

        I will go with Trump-over any of the others.

        And Saudi Princes-and (at least one) has said he would support israel in a war with Hamas (later sort of retracted, ) and the Saudis share intelligence with Israel. While the US releases confidential Israeli intelligence to the world.

  38. scherado says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 4:48 am

    Quote: The unstated assumption is that if one group was unjustly accused of plotting subversion and violence, and was viciously persecuted and massacred on the basis of those false accusations, then any group accused of plotting subversion and violence must be innocent, and any such accusation must be in service of preparing for their subversion and massacre. It is simply a method to foreclose on any criticism of jihad terror and Islamic supremacism.

    The essential difference between the two is the same as between reality and fantasy, or truth and falsehood, accuracy and error.

    The elephant in the room–among the herd–is being fed by the people who know it is there, but can’t, for some reason, stop feeding the animals–as we are told to not do at a zoo. All puns intended.

    If necessary, I will identify the players in this circus and Siamese twins act.

  39. Allan Mandrowski says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 6:51 am

    I have to laugh at those commenters here claiming Sanders couldn’t run a bath, couldn’t run this, that, let alone a country.

    Yet he ran as mayor of Burlington and Burlington is still around and was doing very well and still is.

    Going by the drivel aimed at Sanders, who is a very principled man (probably 180 degrees in views than most on here, but principled and sincere nonetheless), one would have thought Sanders tenure as mayor would mean the end of that town and everyone living in it.

    The reason Sanders is doing quite well is because he speaks the truth, is sincere in his views and solutions, wether naive or not, he is a better human being than all those fraudsters and clowns that are left on the political stage including Hillary Clinton.

    There are only 2 worthy candidates: Sanders and Trump.

    • maghan says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 8:04 am

      OK, but in this instance he is just talking ignorant nonsense, as readers above have pointed out.

      • ScottM says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 9:13 am

        I agree, he may have considerable attributes – however, the comments he made in this case are ignorant, naive and dangerous. That’s not to say that Trump or Clinton are better candidates.

    • awake says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 8:54 am

      “Islam hates us”.

      There is only one worthy candidate.

    • Mo says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 10:17 am

      @ Allan Mandrowski

      “I have to laugh at those commenters here claiming Sanders couldn’t run a bath, couldn’t run this, that, let alone a country.”

      I have to laugh at those commenters here claiming Sanders is “principled.”

      “Going by the drivel aimed at Sanders, who is a very principled man”

      Someone who lives by the philosophy that it’s right for the government to steal from some people to give to others is not principled. At least, not in any positive sense. Neither is anyone who supports this government theft.

      Someone who holds the view that supremacist Muslims today are in an equal situation as the persecuted Jews of WWII is not principled. Neither is anyone else who supports this view.

    • Mark Swan says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 5:26 pm

      This very Principled Man has Used the race discrimination claim when talking about Islam.

      “I did not compare Trump to Hitler,” he told host George Stephanopoulos after he played video of Mr. Sanders’s remarks….His Principles are in Flux.

      These are the Principled qualities this article points out.

      I have followed all the candidate’s rally speeches…He is right up there with Principle.

      Yes Mr. Sanders might be very Principled but it’s apparent He won’t let that get in His Way.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 5, 2016 at 12:45 am

      Yes–Sanders *is* sincere–and that is admirable in itself.

      But it very much depends what one is sincere *about*. Sometimes even having an unprincipled scoundrel in office is preferable to a sincere person–depending on what the person in question is sincere about.

      • Mark Swan says

        Apr 5, 2016 at 1:59 am

        All Too True

      • Kepha says

        Apr 5, 2016 at 4:52 pm

        For crying out loud, I think that Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini was a very sincere person, and so was Saloth Sar, aka Pol Pot. The trouble is that people can be really sincere about pushing programs that will be both evil and disastrous.

        • Mark Swan says

          Apr 6, 2016 at 1:59 am

          Absolutely Kepha

        • Oliver says

          Apr 6, 2016 at 6:30 pm

          K–I agree; left out as sincere- Stalin; Lenin; and Hitler as well as Mao and Ho Chi Minh and Ernesto Che Guevara.

          All were sincere. All were evil. The world is better off without them.

    • Oliver says

      Apr 6, 2016 at 6:28 pm

      I beleive that Vermont is the poorest state in the Northeast; and one of the poorest in the country.

      Did Burlington, during his tenure get more jobs? More people? or, did it continue to helorage people?

      I have not checked, and wa sonly in Vermont once -in June or July 1976. My recollection-nice scenery.

      I think ben & Jerry;s ice cream is the major industry there.

  40. steve says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 7:23 am

    I agree totally with you. All western political types are in awe of Islam and give it too much respect. There is a famous quote by some wretched infidel called Albert Camus; ‘NOTHING IS MORE DESPICABLE THAN RESPECT BASED ON FEAR’.

  41. vicki says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 7:55 am

    http://time.com/4259372/donald-trump-muslim-supporters/

    • Mark Swan says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 5:34 pm

      Thanks vicki…I just finished reading it.

  42. Jack Gordon says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 8:44 am

    The only “lunatic” involved here is Bernie, the sourest commie joke in northern New England. Now we know he is not only arithmetically challenged, assuming that every public service can be “free,” but he knows so little about history that he should keep his mouth shut to save himself even more embarrassment.

  43. Florida Jim says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 8:55 am

    Sanders is a Socialist not a Democrat. Sanders is an ideologue who is godless and hates everyone who opposes him just like Stalin,Hitler and Obama.Socialism has killed more people than any other political group ever.

    • Myrtle Linder says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 9:22 am

      As is a common thing, my post speaking some truths about Muslims connection to the world and how they want things run, anti-GOD, was kicked our!!!

    • Allan Mandrowski says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 10:31 am

      A socialist and a communist are not interchangeable. A lot of socialist democracies in Europe fare pretty well. There are flaws in every system and looking at how Capitalism is eviscerating the spine (Middle Class) of the United States (capitalism is way corporations move their business overseas, because they can pay their employees lower wages and swindle money in different ways than staying at home), it hasn’t done much good to the common man over here.

      It’s time to accept that Capitalism isn’t the solution. It divides us, it devours us. Especially the poor and many many white poor folks are still voting for candidates who have zero intention on helping them, but only themselves and their pockets.

      • Angemon says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 11:43 am

        Bravo, Allan! That was a wonderful display of ignorance like I haven’t seen in a long time!

        *starts slow clap*

        “A socialist and a communist are not interchangeable.”

        You’re correct – socialism is supposed to be the middle phase before communism.

        “A lot of socialist democracies in Europe fare pretty well.”

        Yeah, like Greece. And Spain. And Italy. And Portugal. And Sweden.
        Oh, wait…

        “There are flaws in every system ”

        I don’t do that kind of relativism nonsense tu-quoquery. Name systems, and name flaws – we’ll work it from there.

        “and looking at how Capitalism is eviscerating the spine (Middle Class) of the United States ”

        No, the middle class is being eviscerated by socialist-like policies.

        “ (capitalism is way corporations move their business overseas, because they can pay their employees lower wages and swindle money in different ways than staying at home)”

        Nope. But I’ve figured out our problem: you don’t know what Capitalism is. Nor what socialism is.

        “It’s time to accept that Capitalism isn’t the solution. ”

        Capitalism raised tens of millions of people from poverty to middle and higher classes worldwide. Socialism and communism did the exact opposite, and often killing millions of people in the process.

        “It divides us, it devours us.”

        Again, you’re confusing capitalism with communism and socialism. You want to look at a divisive ideology? Remember the “we are the 99%” occupy crowd? The ones saying “eat the rich”?

        “Especially the poor and many many white poor folks are still voting for candidates who have zero intention on helping them, but only themselves and their pockets.

        Oh, so now you know who those people voted for, or who are they planning to vote for?

        • Mark Swan says

          Apr 4, 2016 at 5:39 pm

          Good points Angemon

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 5, 2016 at 12:51 am

          Great post, Angemon.

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 5, 2016 at 12:50 am

        Allan Mandrowski wrote:

        A lot of socialist democracies in Europe fare pretty well.
        ………………………

        Actually, they are spending themselves into a hole, especially with the added pressure from the Muslim invasions, and would have gone under long since if the US weren’t shouldering so much of the load.

        More:

        It’s time to accept that Capitalism isn’t the solution. It divides us, it devours us. Especially the poor…
        ………………………

        Good God, what rot. Capitalism has been steadily eroding poverty wherever it is allowed to flourish–and even in places–as in Europe–where is it hobbled by Socialist programs.

        That Allan Mandrowski wants us to throw out Capitalism when we are facing the greatest threat of our times–Islam–is suicidal.

        • Mark Swan says

          Apr 5, 2016 at 2:12 am

          Absolutely

        • Kepha says

          Apr 5, 2016 at 5:02 pm

          OK, gravenimage. You praised my post, I’ll praise yours.

          It is indeed capitalism that has eroded poverty, and if used correctly, may well end up finding the fixes for some of its unintended consequences (at which socialism has been noticeably bad). “Spending themselves into a hole” happened in southern Europe first because those countries hadn’t built up the large reserves to fall back on that Germany and France did; further, many of the most prosperous societies on the planet are basically on defense welfare courtesy of Uncle Sam. We in the USA, if we are to continue spending at the rate we are, badly need to be sure to have a good climate for productivity and a GDP which can support the spending and debt.

          Also, while there are people who mean us ill and willing to act on it, we must not kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

          Further, I note that to get itself out of a deepening hole, the Communist Party of China basically had to, in terms of its own founding ideology, literally sell its soul to the devil (capitalism). Viet Nam had to do the same thing. However, my view of that is tempered with a firm belief that without a set of clearly defined (and enforced) civil rights plus transparency, capitalism isn’t all that good, either. It can be pretty badly abused as well as used.

          I also believe that Zhao Xiao, a Chinese economist, was on to something when he opined that the reason American capitalism worked was because of a large Christian influence on the people and their culture.

  44. gavinwca says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 9:35 am

    The Muslims fought with and supported the Nazis. No way can you compare the Muslim Terrorist who are set on eliminating the Jews from the face of the earth, to the Jews in Germany in 1940’s

    • Kepha says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 7:43 pm

      Not all. It is true that the Nazis found some collaborators in Bosnia, Epirus, and in the Soviet Union (but how much was Islam and how much was hatred of the Communist regime is anyone’s guess). Further, they had support from people like Iraq’s Rashid Ali, who even held his own little Kristallnacht before the British overthrew him; and Egypt’s Anwar Sadat was jailed while Rommel was knocking on British-controlled Egypt’s doors. And of course there was Haj Amin al-Husseini, the uncle of Yasir Arafat.

      But of the two million Indians who volunteered to fight under British direction against the Axis, there were plenty of Muslims as well as Hindus and Sikhs; and there were African Muslims in Free French forces as well. Indeed, the officer corps in both India and Pakistan were built on and by WWII veterans. In China, where the war against Japan was already four years old by the time Pearl Harbor was bombed, several Mullahs such as Hu Songshan declared that China’s resistance to Japanese invasion was a jihad, and Muslim generals such as Ma Hongkui, Ma Hongbin, Ma Bufang, Ma zhanshan, and Bai Chongxi contributed much to the war effort–to say nothing of lesser officers and rank-and-file soldiers.

      I do not like Islam, for I am a Christian. I fully agree that there are things in Islamic theology that go far to explain the current wave of terrorism. Yet it would be wrong to willy-nilly lump all Muslims in the same boat.

      • Peggy says

        Apr 4, 2016 at 9:39 pm

        Yet it would be wrong to willy-nilly lump all Muslims in the same boat.

        ================
        Really?
        Which Muslims are friendly to us?

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 5, 2016 at 12:55 am

        Kepha, what about the mass rape of Italian women by Muslims after Monte Casino? Muslims never were our “allies”, in the true sense of sharing our values.

        • Mark Swan says

          Apr 5, 2016 at 2:51 am

          gravenimage…have You read any articles from Matthias Küntzel ?

          http://www.matthiaskuentzel.de/contents/about-the-author

        • Kepha says

          Apr 5, 2016 at 5:05 pm

          Which Muslims? Those in British India’s forces? If so, how were the cases handled?

          I’m not for throwing the gates wide open; and, as I said, I see a lot in Islamic theology that goes far to explain the current wave of terror (including sexual assault–for which I would, had I the power, be a hanging judge).

  45. David says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 9:43 am

    Why do we need to be bending over backwards to accommodate these savage and satanic muslims? When do the Muslim horde try to get along with ANYONE???
    You decades. For my entire life, the muslims have been murderers, torturers and rapists. We don’t need them here. We don’t want them here. Why have an open door for terrorists???
    Our leadership is nuts. They are bringing these murderous muslims in by the tens of thousands. And paying for their keep with our TAX DOLLARS!
    This must stop. Round them all up. And ship them all back to their desert he’ll holes. In about a thousand years, maybe they will change for the better.
    Though that is highly unlikely.

  46. Richard Paulsen says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 10:23 am

    According to Mr Bernie Sanders, Hitler wasn´t an islamophobe thus? Since Hitler, Himmler and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Amin al-Husayni cooperated. There even was a school in the Reich in order to educate imams.
    Mr Sanders probably prefers labelling Charles Martell, Isabella and Ferdinand of Spain, Alfonso VIII, Jan Sobieski III, Eugen of Savoi, Johan Hunyadi and others “islamophobes.” For fighting Muselmans, repeatedly aiming to conquer Europe militarily.
    Asylum today instead of military efforts before. Nazism as well as Islam discriminating and exterminating Jews as well as Christians. Islam neither developed U.S.A. nor Europe. Others did.
    One thing being in minority another in majority. Just have a look at countries ruled according to Islam. Having their own rules, not accepting any others.
    Please remain vigilant. Seems as if the Democrats in the U.S.A. are not. Instead they look too “european”.

  47. Myxlplik says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 10:33 am

    Bernie is just upset that there is one place left in the Middle East where non-Muslims aren’t being exterminated with reckless abandon.

  48. TheDane says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 10:36 am

    Shame on Sanders! I am a staunch supporter of Israel, and I am disgusted at Jews who play the holocaust-card in connection with the crazy, wild moslem invasion of Europe!! Utterly DISgusted! A Jewish leftwinger won’t cut it, and I cannot fathom why Jews attempt to draw a connection between two so vastly different things: the holocaust, which was genocide, and the criticism of a very stupid immigration-policy that will lead to the destruction of the Free world if left unabated.

    • Mark Swan says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 5:43 pm

      Absolutely

  49. Richard Paulsen says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 10:40 am

    To my knowledge higher education is not free in Sweden as Mr Sanders propagates. It is based on loans and you have to pay back till you are 50 years of age. Each sent (öre).

    • Kepha says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 7:46 pm

      Also, what is the basic Swedish tax rate at this point? I understand it’s pretty high.

      Every time I am called on to teach Local, State, and National Government, I ask my students how many of them have been told they’re getting a free education. Hands go up, then I tell them they’ve been lied to, for it’s their parents’ and landlords’ property taxes that pay for public education in most American jurisdictions (if not all).

  50. TheDane says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 10:41 am

    I do want to add this: Merkel is paving the way for Hitlerr’s dream of a Judenfrei Europa! You Americans must be aware that Jews are fleeing Europe, in particular France, but also Sweden and other countries, because Merkel has invited the ghastly Jew-haters (and Christian-haters) in by the millions!

    This is what will happen to Europe, then the US: Jews will be forced to flee to Israel – lucky them! As predicted in Isaiah and Jeremiah, God will drag them home by the jaws, and they will come flying home like doves.

  51. Demsci says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 10:42 am

    Jews were killed because of their race. But the genetics of Muslims doesn”t matter at all for Trump and his followers.

    There is this huge context; of terrorist attacks, Islamic State, hundreds of millions of theocratic, hostile Muslims and the question of so many of them hating us, in which context Donald Trump talked about “temporarily halting Muslim immigration””.

    There is also the context of what Islamic texts and clerics and leaders say. And the clear anti-democratic things they often say. And isn’t the West democratic to it’s core?

    In this context, it seems more logical to ask whether or not a religion is a person’s choice for which he/ she can be held accountable, especially the choice of being Muslim in a democratic country, with no further qualifications.

    If we hold persons/ groups in our countries accountable for their choice of religion, then rejecting them for a bad choice is no racism, but only protection of our beloved democracy and all it entails, and intoloverance of actual or potential supporters of totalitarian enemies.

    And a politician like Sanders then severely let’s down our democratic system and citizens.

    • Mark Swan says

      Apr 4, 2016 at 5:52 pm

      You Got that right…ah logic…good old fashion useable logic…what has it done to be hated so.

  52. Richard Paulsen says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 10:43 am

    ” Each cent”. Sorry.

  53. AmazedHuman says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 11:55 am

    Is Sanders truly insane? Does he NOT understand the meaning of the pictures showing the beheadings, the rapes? Does he not pay attention to the countries who now, desperately, regret allowing them in to their nations, and are now paying a heavy price as well as trying hard to get them back out? What is Sanders problem? Hillary’s too, for that matter? Do they not understand the future of our nation is at stake and not the prolonging of the over-worked, dangerous politically correct game? Unbelievable.

  54. Infidel Task Force says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 1:46 pm

    “trust me, Muslims, or anybody in this country, are not going to live in fear because of their religion, because of the color of their skin, because of the country they came from. That is not what this country is about.”
    And you’re not about protecting the American citizen from foreign terrorists.

  55. Len Vaness says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 7:32 pm

    Bernie…what does the Koran say that ‘the people’ must do to Jews?

  56. Kepha says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 7:51 pm

    Actually, the big worry I have about people like Brooklyn Bolshie Boynie is that I doubt that civil liberties can stand when everyone works for the same employer, who also happens to be everyone’s landlord at the same time.

    • Oliver says

      Apr 6, 2016 at 6:04 pm

      Just look at the old Soviet Union, or more recently (1980’s) Nicaragua.

      Socialism leads to breadlines.

      Sanders is dismissive of “23 brands of deodorants” but sees nothing wrong living off the earnings of people who work (I have read that before he was elected to whatever, he was on welfare can beleive-all should be free mentality).

      So, have one kind, doesn’t work; and massive unemployment; shortages, etc.

      Venezuela- the latest to embrace socialism has a border of about 1,000 miles with Columbia. The People’s Socialist Republic of Venezuela had to send troops to defend the border from Colombian smugglers.

      THE CONTRABAND BEING SMUGGLED???? SOAP; TOILET PAPER; TOOTH PASTE AND TOOTH BRUSHES; SIMILAR ITEMS.

      THE GREAT VENEZUELAN SOCIALIST ECONOMY DOESN’T HAVE ENOUGH.

  57. gravenimage says

    Apr 4, 2016 at 10:20 pm

    Sanders brings up Holocaust discussing Trump’s “intolerance” of Muslims
    ……………………………

    This is just shameful.

  58. Champ says

    Apr 5, 2016 at 2:27 am

    Stop the Tape! Bernie’s Communist Manifesto:

    https://youtu.be/oNdpqkRvQcM

  59. Oliver says

    Apr 6, 2016 at 5:58 pm

    IN CASE YOU MISSED TODAY’S APRIL 6, 2016) DRY BONES- ( mrdrybones.com) HAS A REPRINT OF AN ARTICLE FORM (ORIGINALLY) AN INTERVIEW WITH THE NEW YORK DAILY NEWS, AND PRINTED IN THE APRIL 5, ISRAELI NEWSPAPER.

    THIS ASSHOLE CLAIMS ISRAEL KILLED OVER TEN THOUSAND-TEN THOUSAND-INNOCENT PALESTINIANS. IN THE LAST WAR. HAMAS CLAIMED LESS THEN 1/4TH THAT NUMBER; AND THAT NUMBER IS MORE THEN ALL THREE WARS ISRAEL HAD WITH HAMAS.

    AND HE KEPT SAYING HE ISN’T SURE OF THE NUMBER, BUT MORE THEN 10,000.

    HE IS DANGEROUS. HILLARY IS ALSO- AND HARD TO SAY WHO IS MORE DANGEROUS.

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