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UK: National Union of Students top dog says condemning the Islamic State would be “blatant Islamophobia”

Apr 23, 2016 8:58 am By Robert Spencer

It is good to see that some students in the shattered, staggering, dhimmi UK are angry about this. At least a handful in Britain are not going quietly into the night.

“Bouattia is the NUS’s first black female Muslim president. She was born in Algeria and came to the UK at age seven.” Muslim Arabs from Algeria are black now? This highly dubious racial identification appears to be yet another bid for victimhood and an attempt to buttress the claim that opposition to jihad terror is “racism.”

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“Oxford, Cambridge Threatening to Break Ties With National Student Union Over New President Accused of Antisemitism, Supporting ISIS,” by Lea Speyer, Algemeiner, April 22, 2016 (thanks to Inexion):

Top universities in Britain are threatening to break ties with the country’s National Union of Students (NUS) following its recent election of a new controversial president accused of making antisemitic, anti-Israel and terror-sympathizing comments, the UK’s Daily Mail reported.

Students at Cambridge and Oxford announced on Thursday that they would be holding referendums on whether to split from the NUS following the election of Malia Bouattia, the report said. In 2014, while speaking at a “pro-resistance” event celebrating “Gaza and the Palestinian revolution,” Bouattia asserted that it is “problematic” to consider that “Palestine will be free” only by means of “non-violent protest.” In 2011, while attending the University of Birmingham, she called the school “a Zionist outpost” with the “largest [Jewish Society] in the country.” Bouattia has also previously attacked what she called “Zionist-led media outlets,” the report said, and more recently, voted against a NUS motion condemning ISIS because it would be “blatant Islamophobia.”

Prior to her election, Bouattia’s candidacy caused an uproar across many universities in Britain. Fifty-seven Jewish student leaders penned an open letter to the would-be president, asking her to clarify her positions. In response, Bouattia claimed she was not an antisemite, rather an anti-Zionist. “I want to be clear that for me to take issue with Zionist politics, is not me taking issue with being Jewish,” she wrote….

Bouattia is the NUS’s first black female Muslim president. She was born in Algeria and came to the UK at age seven after “terrorists rained gunfire” on her school, Bouattia said in her election speech. Defending herself against any links with extremists groups, Bouattia stated: “I know too well the price of terrorism, the consequences of violence and oppression, I saw a country ripped apart by terror and was pushed into exile by its doing. I know too well the damage done by racism and persecution – I faced it every day.”

NUS represents 600 student organizations and more than 7 million student voices across the UK.

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  1. Christianblood says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 9:08 am

    Read my lips!

    • Jay Boo says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 9:13 am

      Who are you going to blame CB?
      Not the MUSLIM, of course.
      That is not your style.

      • Christianblood says

        Apr 23, 2016 at 9:12 pm

        Jay Boo posted

        (…Who are you going to blame CB?…)

        I blame the UK National Union of Students top dog who says condemning the Islamic State would be “blatant Islamophobia”. Don’t you think she is to be blamed?

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 24, 2016 at 6:30 pm

          Wait–“Christianblood” is actually blaming a Muslim for Muslim savagery? This is a first. Perhaps he hasn’t realized Malia Bouattia is Muslim…

        • Christianblood says

          Apr 24, 2016 at 10:57 pm

          gravenimage

          You obviously have decided to ignore it but I always blame barbaric islamic jihadist savagery and supremacism but also I blame Western elites who are bending over backwards to please and side with murderous islamic fascists. I cannot sleep in peace if I blame the one and ignore the other. For me, Western elites who are bending over backwards to please and side with murderous islamic fascists and the murderous islamic fascists themsleves are one and the same.

        • Angemon says

          Apr 25, 2016 at 6:58 am

          Christianblood posted:

          “…I always blame barbaric islamic jihadist savagery and supremacism”

          Here’s an example (out of hundreds) of how you “always blame barbaric islamic jihadist savagery and supremacism”:

          jihadwatch.org/2016/03/robert-spencer-in-pj-media-hillary-vs-jihad-a-nightmare-scenario#comment-1403291

          The so-called “International Court of Justice” which is based on The Hague is funded by the US and Nato and its a Kangaroo court that was set up to persecute Africans and some others who don’t cow-tow to the US and Nato hegemonical interests.

          But wait, there’s more:

          jihadwatch.org/2016/03/yemen-islamic-jihadists-storm-old-peoples-home-murder-four-nuns-eight-residents-and-a-guard#comment-1391477

          Angemon

          Please understand that the times have changed and holy Russia also predicted to be the (Third Rome) is aware the fact that Christianity is dying in the Western world is ready and willing to be defender of all Christendom in this age of postmodern secularist moral relativism.

          “but also I blame Western elites who are bending over backwards to please and side with murderous islamic fascists. ”

          “Western elites”, you say?

          jihadwatch.org/2016/04/christian-refugees-let-down-by-pope-he-promised-to-take-them-to-italy-but-then-took-only-muslims-instead#comment-1422086

          It is not only the Pope, the WHOLE Western societies, churches and governments are pro islam and anti-Christian. They all love muslims and are even fighting for them in their jihadist wars while ignoring the plight of global victims of bloody islamic jihad and violence.

          And, of course, you turn a blind eye when it’s not the “Western elites” doing the bending backwards to please murderous, genocidal, suicidal jihadis – hence why you not only don’t have a bad word to Russia’s dealings with Iran, you also defend Iran whenever needed. You don’t apply your so-called principles consistently because doing so doesn’t further your agenda.

          “I cannot sleep in peace if I blame the one and ignore the other.”

          See above.

          “For me, Western elites who are bending over backwards to please and side with murderous islamic fascists and the murderous islamic fascists themsleves are one and the same.”

          Since I’ve shown you’re not talking about “Western elites” but “the WHOLE Western societies”, that’s literally, not figuratively, saying that the whole West is composed of “murderous islamic fascists”.

          BTW, how are things in Chechnya? You might want to start by looking to your on backyard if you want to talk about lawlessness, islamic savagery and government appeasement…

      • DFD says

        Apr 24, 2016 at 10:48 am

        Jay Boo, sorry for high jacking your reply button. But I think you’ll agree.
        To others, sorry for cross post (I posted this yesterday) but given CB’s insidious posts, I believe people should realize his propaganda style and methods. Well, those who are unaware… 🙂

        Here it goes:

        To: Ex-Muslim, African Infidel, and others who approve of the postings of ‘Christianblood, Ivan Konstantinov’ and similar

        Or: How to make hate propaganda <<
        (practical example provided herein) <<
        Or: What does Jesus (Christianity itself) say about them
        ==========================================

        This is posted on the assumption that you actually are either Christians, Atheists or at least not Muslims. I know, you proclaim to be, I merely give you the benefit of the doubt.

        First point, a propaganda example: Masud, instructed by Mohammed not to reveal that he is a Muslim, and sent (back) into Yathrib/Medina to sow discord, mutual distrust and hatred between the enemies of Islam/Mohammed. Yathrib's opponents? Christians, Jews and Pagans, all who saw through the masquerade of the Muslims, after they granted them refuge and safety from the Meccans, who had enough of them, and drove them out – understandably. Incidentally, the Meccans were not Pagans, only partially so, many were Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians. Just for your info.

        How did Masud operate? Simple, to the Jews he said: all Christians and Pagans are evil, don't trust them, they let the Muslims into Yathrib, causing the troubles. To The Christians, all Jews and Pagans are evil, they let the Muslims…. To the Pagans, all Jews and Christians are evil, they… Occasionally he also condemned the Muslims, when unavoidable. The result, discord, they were picked up one by one. Finalized with their massacre of the trench, and the enslavement of their women and children, by Mohammed.

        Do you recognize Christianblood, Ivan K, etc.? No?

        Let's take 'Christianblood' (CB) who is the noisiest and busiest hate and division monger. And before commencing, consider that this is an anti jihad website, run by a Christian, Mr. Robert Spencer, who is a Catholic. Whilst this/his website is facilitated in the west, in the US to be specific. That is important to note, since according to the hatred spewed by CB, Ivan and others, we are not anti Islam, we are not Christians, Jews and Atheists (plus others), but to the contrary we are friends of Islam and enemies of Christendom. Idiotic? Indeed, but we are not the idiots posting such nonsense, CB & Co. are, relentlessly.

        Now to commence with the anti Christian propagandists and their tricks, assuming of course that you yourselves are not part of that Masudian clique.

        How do they work? I construct an example, the pattern is, for practically invariable purposes, always the same. A practical example, fictional but also true, suppose an critical article about the central European civil war of the late 20th century, Balkans:

        “…The Bosnian (Muslims) have established the first rape and torture camps in the Balkans. No reporting by 'the west'. The Christian forces, Serbs, gain the upper hand, turn the tables and practice vengeance in kind. The western (US/EU) response: Bombing Serbia into submission, thus reinforcing the first Muslim state in Europe, Bosnia Herzegovina, and also establishing two more Muslim states, namely Kosovo and Albania. Kosovo as a particular humiliation to the Serbs, and for Christians in general. Result, ethnic cleansing of Christians in those two extra Muslim states and over 30,000 churches destroyed or converted into mosques…” The supposed article ends, what has been said within the supposed article is actually true.

        Here is the likely response posting of Christianblood, Ivan, and the likes of them:

        “…So true the article/headline. And it shows or proves that the west is evil, anti Christian, all of them, Catholics, Protestants, Jews, etc. Atheists are of course *not* mentioned. {Then the dribble continues:} *All* westerners, *all* the western people, etc. …” Should that not work, add 'Auschwitz' or 'Nazis', that ought to do the trick.

        Have you noticed, in this fictional reply by CB, that there was not once any further reference to Islam or Muslims? Not once, they could be in another universe. Read his posts, you will find that he hardly ever condemns Muslim atrocities as such. Yes, sometimes he does, but only on very rare occasions, and given the majority of his posts, that is a mere fig-leaf-waving, to 'prove' that he is not a Muslim.

        Read his posts, go back a few months, it's always the same, identical pattern. It is possible though, that he is not a Muslim, but merely a paid up propagandist. See http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house However, he can of course be both, a paid up propagandist and a Muslim, no contradiction there. Ever heard of the two birds with one stone?

        That many, if not most by now, western people, irrespective of their spiritual or ideological affiliation; are unhappy and extremely critical of western leadership, is completely ignored by such hatemongers and deceivers. So, do I speak the truth? If not, then why the massive and increasing support for the anti Muslims, such as Trump/Cruz – western Atlantic; and AfD, FPÖ, England First, Pegida, etc. – eastern Atlantic; why, how come? And why do many other citizens, not yet supporting the previously mentioned organizations, are opposed to the Islam pandering of the powers, which have by stealth and guile usurped western leadership positions? So, I do indeed speak the truth about those Masudians, the likes of Christianblood and similar such anti Christians hatemongers. I state without reservation: Christianblood is *not* a Christian, but he loves to see Christians and non Muslims bleeding, rejoices in it, and uses it to sow discord, MASUD! And that holds also true for others like him, and his 'supporters'. That is to say those who trustingly accept and respond to his posts.

        How to recognize such propaganda crap? Simple, such pieces take a headline, a story, ignore all ins and outs of it, but ramble endlessly about how evil the affected target population is supposed to be, with more or less unfounded allegations. Read CB's posts, go a few months back, the pattern is always, without exception, the same.

        Yes, we westerners have been infiltrated by the adherents of the Frankfurt School, anarchists and communists with their 'long march through the institutions'. Aided by petro-dollar corrupted, or at least influenced individuals, plus naïve dreamers. Is that supposed to make us, approx 500-800 million people in all, to be anti Christian, to be pro Muslim? According to such propaganda filth it does. Ask him why – if you can be bothered to reply to the posts of such vile, hate mongering… 'persons'. Don't take him up on the pretended context of his post, not worth it, but ask him why about what follows in his posts.

        Are they trash or are they Christians, as they pretend to be? Let us ask someone who ought to know, Jesus Christ, first Christian and founder of Christianity, no particular church or denomination. He may know.

        What did he say? He said that it is an unforgivable sin to class believers as unbelievers. So, where does that leave the likes of CB, who in an unending, hate crazed frenzy, condemn all westerners as anti Christians; him and similar such riff-raff, where does it leave them? What does Jesus see in them? After all, they proclaim to be Christians. Thus, a valid question.

        • Twitter (@Saint_Wayne) says

          Apr 24, 2016 at 11:57 am

          You may find he criticizes attacks where Muslims were attacked which is Al Qaeda’s ideology

        • Jay Boo says

          Apr 24, 2016 at 3:36 pm

          Many thanks DFD
          I did not get back to notice CB’s dubious claim about his ambiguous first comment. You are correct to point out CB’s track record being inconsistent with that claim and you did a thorough job at it.
          Well done.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 24, 2016 at 6:32 pm

          Good post, DFD.

        • Christianblood says

          Apr 24, 2016 at 11:01 pm

          DFD posted

          (…The Bosnian (Muslims) have established the first rape and torture camps in the Balkans. No reporting by ‘the west’. The Christian forces, Serbs, gain the upper hand, turn the tables and practice vengeance in kind. The western (US/EU) response: Bombing Serbia into submission, thus reinforcing the first Muslim state in Europe, Bosnia Herzegovina, and also establishing two more Muslim states, namely Kosovo and Albania. Kosovo as a particular humiliation to the Serbs, and for Christians in general. Result, ethnic cleansing of Christians in those two extra Muslim states and over 30,000 churches destroyed or converted into mosques…)

          Very true indeed! Thank for making this clear for all of us.

    • Ex-muslim says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 9:36 pm

      @ Christianblood

      I read your lips CB. I know 100% where the blame should be going to.

  2. Jay Boo says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 9:10 am

    On campus thugs preaching violence

  3. jayell says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 9:30 am

    Top ‘dog’? But she’s female!! What’s would the correct English term be in HER case? Don’t anyone say it, it sounds nasty (but probably more appropriate on more than one way!!). In any case, what exactly does SHE think she’s doing heading the UK Student Union? Haven’t we got enough properly home-grown material capable of doing the job properly instead of resorting to this questionable imported merchandise? And ‘questionable’ certainly is the word, to judge by her utterly offensive views. It’s very good to see that more than a few UK universities are now seriously contemplating cutting links with the NUS. Good. But don’t just THINK about it. Do it. PS – it’s not the first time the students’ organisations have enlisted offensive third-world organisms (usually female) to key roles in their managements. There was the infamous ‘Head of Diversity’ at (I believe) Goldsmiths College in London who was caught tweeting that “all white males should be killed”. I believe she escaped prosecution (somehow!!) but got the sack. Eventually. After some discussion, that is. So the rule of thumb for the UK Higher Education establishment seems to be – look for the most inappropriate person (preferably non-British and FEMALE) who identifies least with what the UK is (or has been) supposed to stand for, has the biggest mouth and the least manners, and let them do and say what the hell they like. Except it looks like the ‘sheep’ aren’t actually going to put up with this farce any more.

    • Jay Boo says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 9:50 am

      Muslims love to invoke “Allahu akbar” like a Heil Hitler praise with upturned hand displays that are no different than a Nazi stiff arm parade. These Prayer rug thugs, like SA brown shirts are so uncouth.

      Sharia’s Gestapo.
      Adolph would be so proud.
      Lock-step satanic bootlick lunatics: Ditto

      • jayell says

        Apr 23, 2016 at 12:13 pm

        ‘Rug Thugs’ – very good, I must remember that one.
        How about the other way round? – ‘Thug Rug’ = a ‘prayer mat’?

        • faraway says

          Apr 23, 2016 at 4:10 pm

          It’s very appropriate:thug comes from the hindi word ‘thugee’ which refers to muslim criminal gangs of the 19th century in India.

        • LR says

          Apr 24, 2016 at 11:21 pm

          faraway,

          Oh, I do love tidbits of trivia.

        • linnte says

          Apr 24, 2016 at 11:57 pm

          This was an exquisite tid bit of info. I enjoy the etemology (entomology?)the origine of words very much. (One is about bugs and the other about word beginnings, but I can’t remember which hahahahahahaha!)

    • steve says

      Apr 24, 2016 at 10:08 am

      This bitch will be employed by the B.B.C. she has the prefect qualifications to be fast tracked to the top echelons of that left-ridden ant heap. She is Black Muslim and a terrorist sympathiser.

    • Christianblood says

      Apr 24, 2016 at 10:28 am

      Jayel posted:

      (…Top ‘dog’? But she’s female!! What’s would the correct English term be in HER case?…)

      Good point! What about a top she-dog? or a top dogess?!

  4. mortimer says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 9:32 am

    NEWS: National Union of Students endorses ISIS!

    These fools have just implied that ISIS is Islamic and therefore may not be criticized.

    Moreover, when Bouattia says, ‘Palestine will be free’…what does that imply? Israel is one of the top free countries according to Freedom House.

    Obviously, Bouattia means ‘Palestine will be free of a disease called Jews’…as in ‘germ-free’ or ‘dirt-free’ or ‘disease-free’. To consider Jews a ‘disease’ that must be purged, Bouattia has declared herself an anti-Semite. She must be forced to step down if the NUS is retain a shred of credibility.

    • Jeff says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 11:19 am

      I caught that to. Everybody claims that isis has nothing to do with Islam. Bouatttia feels differently. She’s a racist and a bigot.

      • maghan says

        Apr 24, 2016 at 10:23 am

        She probably of Beber background before her people were invaded and colonized by the invader Arabs. Now like a good old colonial she would die for Muhammad. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

    • DFD says

      Apr 24, 2016 at 11:09 am

      Hi Mortimer,

      I don’t think the NUS has even the faintest shred of credibility left. One remains (in the UK) a member of one’s student union for life.

      Years ago I took the step to write to “my union” that I surrender, as well as withdraw, my membership of the ‘Black Sheeps’ and am therefore no longer a black sheep. No reply, but who cares? I don’t. That refers to a reply from them.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 24, 2016 at 6:35 pm

      mortimer wrote:

      NEWS: National Union of Students endorses ISIS!

      These fools have just implied that ISIS is Islamic and therefore may not be criticized.
      ……………………..

      Good point, Mortimer.

      • linnte says

        Apr 24, 2016 at 6:42 pm

        Wow! He is right. Imagine that? I wonder if Obama will roll with this?

  5. Don McKellar says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 9:40 am

    The students at Oxford and Cambridge and these other universities better stifle themselves and bow to their Islamic masters or they’re going to be labeled as institutions of Islamophobia!

    Maybe they’re just confused — as am I? After all, how could condemning the Islamic State be Islamophobia when the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam and really isn’t Islamic? Hasn’t Cameron and all the rest made it absolutely clear that the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam? This muslima is confused, isn’t she? She reminds me of that little monster Malala from Pakistan who is equally confused, it seems. This one wasn’t shot, but still experienced Islamic terror:
    “I know too well the price of terrorism, the consequences of violence and oppression, I saw a country ripped apart by terror and was pushed into exile by its doing. I know too well the damage done by racism and persecution – I faced it every day.”
    And yet she practices it every day! Just like her Islam. Actually, it IS her Islam.

  6. Angemon says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 9:43 am

    Top universities in Britain are threatening to break ties with the country’s National Union of Students (NUS) following its recent election of a new controversial president accused of making antisemitic, anti-Israel and terror-sympathizing comments, the UK’s Daily Mail reported.

    As they should rightfully do.

    Bouattia is the NUS’s first black female Muslim president.

    Only female, black and muslim? Not diverse enough. She should be a transsexual, transracial, transage, fat, bisexual, disabled, female, black muslim. The cult of diversity demands so!

    • Judi says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 10:19 am

      Don’t hold your breath. I’ll believe it when I actually see it. There will probably be riots from the Jeremy Corbyn supporting left-wing anti-semites if they actually do break ties.

    • William says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 11:56 am

      That woman is not black. She is a hybrid or a crossbreed. If she claims to be black, the black she is claiming to be is a social construct. It is not real. It is made up.

    • JMB says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 7:47 pm

      To Angermon,

      Perhaps she does have those other diversity qualifications that she mentioned. She should also be reminded that she would probably looking after 10 children in a mud floor hut as well as minding the goats if she still lived in North Africa.

      I also wonder how the Islamic world views her appointment; Will she be regarded as an agent to promote the cause of Islam from her very influential position or will she be regarded as a traitor to traditional Islamic values?

      • JMB says

        Apr 23, 2016 at 7:50 pm

        Typo above in first sentence “she” should have been “you” (angermon)

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 24, 2016 at 6:41 pm

        JMB wrote:

        I also wonder how the Islamic world views her appointment; Will she be regarded as an agent to promote the cause of Islam from her very influential position or will she be regarded as a traitor to traditional Islamic values?
        …………………

        Some pious Muslims would laud her enabling of the cause of Islam, others would stone her to death for being an uppity woman.

        Who says Islam is not diverse? sarc/off

    • Marcel Berube says

      Apr 24, 2016 at 12:21 am

      You make me laugh but it is so true . Nowaday , when we choose a representant, it must be a non-white, non-heterosexual, non-native, non – everything so we are not accused of narrow -minded.

      35 years ago , I was so happy to leave university and work with real, ordinary people. I thought I was getting crazy there. No one was eating like most people. One was vegetarian, the other vegetalian, another one micro-biotic, another one something else. No one was christian ever more. They would be bouddhists, or read Confucius or any eastern Guru .

      Ubiversities are a place to lost common sens. De-construct is the key word in these places.

    • Fessitude says

      Apr 24, 2016 at 9:48 am

      Her Muslim identity trumps all the others. Thought experiment. If there were a black female lesbian Christian opposing her in campus elections and in debates, who do we think the mainstream media and university establishment would side with? Even make her a white Muslim male. They would still call the black female lesbian Christian an “Islamophobe”, a “bigot”, and — yes, paradoxically and preposterously enough — a “racist”.

      • Angemon says

        Apr 24, 2016 at 7:37 pm

        Fessitude posted:

        “Her Muslim identity trumps all the others. ”

        Ah, so now you’re an expert on the Progressive Stack, eh? If so, can you explain me why this attack went unreported:

        http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/15/campus-turns-on-muslim-conservative-who-penned-pc-satire.html

        http://eaglerising.com/12658/muslim-student-attacked-liberals-silent-hes-conservative/

        A muslim student wrote a satire of the Leftist mindset and behaviour. He was, of course, bullied and attacked. Why didn’t his muslim identity trump all the others?

        “Thought experiment. If there were a black female lesbian Christian opposing her in campus elections and in debates, who do we think the mainstream media and university establishment would side with? Even make her a white Muslim male. They would still call the black female lesbian Christian an “Islamophobe”, a “bigot”, and — yes, paradoxically and preposterously enough — a “racist”.”

        You know what? I feel you’re leaving out an important factor there, so I’ll reply with another thought experience. Imagine that the muslima in the article was only different in her political orientation. She was still a black female Muslim who made antisemitic, anti-Israel and terror-sympathizing comments, BUT she was an outspoken right-wing Conservative.

        What do you think the reaction would be?

    • DFD says

      Apr 24, 2016 at 5:07 pm

      Hi Angemon,

      You may find this informative and interesting, I believe.

      First of all, the Berbers (north west Africa) are *not* Arabs, they still fight and rebel against them and their collaborators/adherents; among those people Christianity is spreading fastest in NA.

      Ethnically they contain various races, some Africans, that is Nubians and Mauris. Then some more of the northern Africans. Plus a goodly portion of Germans, Vandals and Visigoth settlers/conquerors that is. Despite this real diversity they melted and operated a rather flourishing kingdom, or mini empire, depending upon tribal or political affiliations at a given point in time.

      Essentially they were politically homogeneous entity when Islam attacked. They were governed and led by queen Dahlia. The Arabs/Muslims called her the witch, al-Kahinat. She resisted the Muslim hordes till the later 600s, then she had to flee. Rumor has it she escaped to Spain, her sons converted to Islam, apparently with her blessings. Kept them in power, possessions and safe. She had to get away, the Arabs hated her, a women who inflicted heavy losses on them.

      Nevertheless the Berbers rose in their first revolt around the 740 to 750. They got concessions from the jackass; sorry, I meant the caliph.

      The rebelled again and again, most of them don’t consider themselves to be Arabs. The last round was in the 1980s, the current one, still running, started in 2011 – they really don’t like being Arabs. And Islam isn’t liked very much among those peoples either. Moreover, the Atlas mountains are big, very big and cover a wide territory.

      How will it play out? No idea, but I can tell you this, they don’t quit! They regard Berberism as an ideology and a cultural/political identity, giving the scattered Berber tribes national consciousness. Minor acts of resistance is painting over Arab road signs in Berber language, major acts are bombings and shootings. The Berbers are the course why the Algerian government declares itself, or rather Algeria to be a secular state. Doesn’t really work, they keep on fighting, or resisting. As is opportune.

      The rapid spread of Christianity can be genuine, or simply a gesture of defiance, they consider Arabism and Islam to be the same thing – and don’t like it.

      Interesting folks, aren’t they? I wish them all the best. Our support for them… Have a wild guess.

      Obviously that cow is a collaborator, if she were to go back she’d have to tread very carefully, and keep in safe, Muslim dominated areas. Yes, they actually have Christian controlled territories by now.

      Well, I root for them wholeheartedly, if they make it, it would be the first time in 1,400 years that a nation, a people breaks free from the filth. And out of their own strength. That, ‘female’ of this thread is a disgrace for an entire nation.

      I hope you enjoyed this

      • DFD says

        Apr 24, 2016 at 6:13 pm

        Correction:

        ….The Berbers are the course why the Algerian government…
        =
        ….The Berbers are the *cause* why the Algerian government…

        Sorry

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 24, 2016 at 6:48 pm

        Being Berber, alas, does not stop this Muslimah from supporting the Islamic State.

        • DFD says

          Apr 25, 2016 at 1:25 pm

          You’re right about that. Don’t know if she actually is a Berber or not. But she certainly is what I said she is: a disgrace for an entire nation – *if* she is part of that nation.

          Knowing you, I am sure you’ll agree 🙂

      • Angemon says

        Apr 24, 2016 at 7:26 pm

        Hello DFD.

        I enjoyed reading your post, thank you very much 🙂 .I have a general knowledge of the history of that area, both before and after the fall of the Roman empire. IIRC, the Umayyad Caliphate was overthrown (largely) because of the pecking order they enforced: Arab muslims -> Non-Arab muslims -> Dhimmies -> Slaves. Non-Arab muslims eventually got fed up of being second-class citizens and rebelled. Every once in a while I hear about how conversion to Christianity is allegedly not a rare phenomenon in some areas of the muslim world, North Africa included, but, yeah, I don’t see any official support for Christian proselytization from secular Western governments, which could be done on the grounds of spreading Western core values like freedom of religion.

        • DFD says

          Apr 25, 2016 at 1:56 pm

          Angemon,

          Hi, interesting reply, thanks. You said: “…I hear about how conversion to Christianity is allegedly not a rare phenomenon in some areas of the muslim world, North Africa included, but, yeah, I don’t see any official support for Christian proselytization from secular Western governments, which could be done on the grounds of spreading Western core values like freedom of religion…”

          I wouldn’t dare guessing. Alone the estimates for the Berber population ranges from 15-25 million, they cover all of north-west Africa; right into Tunisia and Libya. Khaddafi persecuted them, and once NATO bombed, they were they key instrument, on the ground, to bring him down, vengeance. Didn’t waste any time.

          About Christianity among them? That’s a tough one. Estimates from by now 1.5 to several million. How many are real and how many are claimed, and by whom – you’d venture to guess?

          Many of them are Christians, if they convert genuinely or simply out of opposition to Islam, no idea. A lot of them also turn to Atheism, again, how many…

          It’s very tricky since they are spread over such a huge area, which for them is strength. One thing one can say about them is this, they are their own people, and they don’t ask anyone for help. And that’s a “WOW!” They do whatever they can, and are feared. The, what I call, anti-Arab or anti-Islam section/faction of these people is growing. They are not monkeying the Arabs like the Pakistanis, on the contrary. Have you ever visited ‘brother Rachid’s website’? Gives you an idea of what they think about Islam – and his father is an Imam. Google link below. To follow the events, even sporadically as I do, is certainly interesting, far more so than any adventure fiction.

          Consider this, if they make it, for the Muslims that means that Libya, Tunisia and the Sudan become unhinged. And that then means Egypt (~10 million Christians plus an unknown number of Atheists) hangs! And the Berbers are not stupid, and they don’t like Arabs, never did. I read a while ago something what one of their leaders said about the west and the east. He said that they will get rid of the Arabs and Arabism (I believe that means Islam), by themselves, and he added that they will not become anyone’s geostrategic asset. It’s a very interesting development to watch.

          For Brother Rachid see:
          https://www.google.co.uk/#q=brother+ravhid&gws_rd=cr

        • Angemon says

          Apr 25, 2016 at 8:00 pm

          I’m aware of Brother Rachid and Father Zakaria, both via David Wood or the Trinity Channel, IIRC. There should be more like them – evangelists specifically targeting the muslim world.

  7. linnte says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 10:28 am

    Her speech ended with “getting orders” for action from Palestine. So she has connections to Hamas. Hopefully the College will put that together and pay attention to her movements as an active supporter of Hamas. What I don’t get is, why is an Algerian focused on Palestine? There in lies the mystery. This is a deliberate recruitment from Hamas. She is pretty, smart, does not wear a Hijab- all aspects which would draw in non Muslims for their support too. Look out world, here she comes!

    • Twitter (@Saint_Wayne) says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 11:10 am

      Islam as a whole 56 countries & Palestine made it obligatory to kill all non Muslims in sharia law made in 1884. Since then the Muslim world and the left have been at war with us. Source: Book of Islamic law “Reliance of the traveler revised edition” pages 846 & 34
      Y R they fighting among themselves? It’s Islam!
      ISIS want Armageddon & want to kill Muslims not Muslim enough. And Al Qaeda want conquest and victory for Islam
      Muslims are divided into 2 camps. Both with the same goal our utter destruction

      • linnte says

        Apr 23, 2016 at 11:32 am

        I see! Thanks! It reinforces my thought that if Western countries tries just left Muslim countries alone, they would destroy themselves.

        • Twitter (@Saint_Wayne) says

          Apr 23, 2016 at 7:54 pm

          Sorry the date should read 1994

  8. David says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 10:33 am

    So, there were a few students who didn’t like this? But only a minority. The situation is not getting better, it’s getting worse!
    Britain has but little time to act and save itself. With their present leadership, the nation seems DOOMED!
    Internal sedition is easier to prevent then to nullify once it’s intrenched. Wake up, people of britain! You’ve not much time left.

  9. pdxnag says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 10:59 am

    So, she was beyond hope by age seven?

    • SpiritOf1683 says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 4:30 pm

      She was beyond hope the day she was born. So was the West.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Apr 23, 2016 at 5:55 pm

        So ‘the West’ was doomed – ‘beyond hope’ – the day it was *born*???

        REALLY?

        Clarification: what do you mean, * precisely*, by ‘the West’ , in your throwaway line about ‘so was the West’ [beyond hope the day it was born]?

        When, precisely, according to you, *was* ‘the West’ “born”?

        • SpiritOf1683 says

          Apr 24, 2016 at 4:25 am

          Look at how the West has slowly been committing demographic suicide over the last 50 years, and how much terrorism we’ve seen since 1979. We have an ongoing stealth conquest in Europe. France is around 11 or 12% Muslim now, over 30% of the babies born there are Muslim babies, and as Mark Steyn said, When predicting the future, birth rates are the closest thing we have to hard numbers”. And we’re letting more of them in. And given the fact she’s in her early 20s, look what we’ve seen in her lifetime since the mid-1990s alone – the first attempt on the WTC, 3/11, 7/7, 9/11, Beslan, Luxor etc, and we’ve continued to learn nothing.

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 24, 2016 at 8:23 pm

        SpiritOf1683 wrote

        She was beyond hope the day she was born. So was the West.
        ………………………..

        Why are you counseling surrender here?

        This is certainly not the Spirit of 1683, where brave Infidels beat the invading Muslim hordes back from the Gates of Vienna.

        What would Jan Sobieski think of such a call for us to give up?

        I don’t believe the West if beyond hope, let alone that she was somehow fated to fall to Islam at her inception.

        I don’t even believe that Malia Bouattia was fated to be a vicious Muslim supporter of the Islamic State. She is only because she has *decided* to follow her vicious creed.

        Pretending that free will does not exist and that it is inevitable that we fall to Islam is just false. And if you *do* believe this, what are you doing at Jihad Watch?

        I don’t think you were like this when you chose your username–nor when you have made some very good Anti-Jihad comments here over the years.

        • SpiritOf1683 says

          Apr 25, 2016 at 2:36 pm

          Nobody is counselling surrender, least of all me. What is happening makes me angry. It isn’t me thats surrendering but too many in the West. I am fed up to the back teeth of a population that brands as bigots and racists anyone who dares critricise Islam, especially after what we’ve seen over the last 15 years. If people can’t see what is happening before their very eyes, I doubt they ever will.

        • SpiritOf1683 says

          Apr 25, 2016 at 2:41 pm

          Jan Sobieski lived in a different era – 1624-1696. There was no such thing as political correctness then. He had ancestors who were killed fighting the Turks. He was obviously aware that Vienna had been besieged before. He knew his enemies. The modern day West doesn’t.

  10. خَليفة says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 11:00 am

    If she were a real Muslim she would know that women are not to be leaders.
    The only reason she can be president of NUS is because of non-Muslim hegemony.
    Where is her hijab, or better yet, burka?

    It is amazing how often people latch onto ONE thing which they believe will improve their miserable life.
    Even with no correlation or connection to what is actually bothering them, they continue to focus on that ONE thing they believe is their salvation; and like the paradoxical response in animals, when the reward is diminished the behavior increases.

    Sounds like the typical Muslim blaming their problems On islamophobia?
    For the ignorant and unlearned, it’s easier to blame others than to improve oneself.

    Sadly, with Islam, the learning of higher mental functions, like cause and effect and logic, is highly retarded

    Where she said “… Not an antisemite, rather an anti- Zionist… ”
    Using that same Muslim logic:
    I am not anti-Islam, but I am against Islamic hegemony.
    I’m not islamophobic, rather koranophobic
    I dont have a problem with Islam, but I do with Mohammed’s teachings.

    • Greyhound Fancier says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 11:46 am

      I am Islamophobic. Islam has been the scourge of the world for 1400 years. Further, it handicaps efforts to evangelize Arabs because Islam has taught them all they think they need to know of Jesus.

      Islam in a man is as dangerous as hydrophobia in a dog (Winston Churchill).

      • lswchp says

        Apr 23, 2016 at 9:19 pm

        I would limpke to see an and to the bogus term “Islamophobia”. There is no such mental illness. And a phobia is an irrational fear, whereas fearing Muslims is often quite rational.

        I think “Islamoaverse” is more accurate.

    • SpiritOf1683 says

      Apr 24, 2016 at 4:27 am

      She wouldn’t be a leader if she was in a Muslim-majority country. But she’s in the West and has blatant contempt for a part of the world that has givern her an opportunity. She’d be a nothing were she still in Algeria.

  11. Mockingjay says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 11:57 am

    This whole story leaves me wondering if ISIS instructs not just its male, but also its FEMALE supporters to NOT look too “islamic” – to not grow beards, not carry Qurans – could it be she’s not wearing the headscarf to MISLEAD all of us Western gullible folks?
    Refusing to condemn ISIS can only mean one thing, I would contend. You support them.

    • linnte says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 6:22 pm

      I think you are correct! For a Muslim, she is very non Muslim looking. Nor is she as “black” as she says! Not that it matters, but Obama is also not very black. Half black for the record. Having been raised in mostly Black America, I would have thought her to be Polynesian or something like that.

      IS is a sneeky group and we should not put anything past their doing to advance their heinous cause.

  12. Ginger says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 1:37 pm

    She is nothing more nor less than a loud-mouth political opportunist, which is why she has slithered up the greasy pole via the black students grouping, despite being demonstrably not black. Unsurprisingly, she was voted in by left-wing student delegates at the NUS conference because they also have political ambitions. Most undergraduates are too busy studying and enjoying student life for this kind of nonsense. I believe Cambridge has opted out of the NUS and Oxford is considering it.

  13. D says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 2:31 pm

    In the name of justice and equality we must condemn ISIS. They are murderers. A disease that must be cured. The remnants of a primitive civilization that must be burried.

  14. Custos Custodum says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 3:17 pm

    Bouattia is the NUS’s first black female Muslim president.

    Does she look “black” to anyone other than a college Marxist? Of course, quarter-educated college kids will lap this up and even feel proud of their own suicidal tolerance and “diversity.”

    Meanwhile, Muslims since the days of Muhammad have despised black Africans (even Muslims) on account of their skin color and appearance. Arab Muslims have been enslaving black Africans for hundreds of years. Africans of partial Arab descent were typically at the center of the slavery business. Look up “Tippu Tip.”

    • PJG says

      Apr 23, 2016 at 8:11 pm

      Despite all that, the black/Muslim alliance grows stronger all the time in the West.

    • maghan says

      Apr 24, 2016 at 10:40 am

      Why would a “college Marxist” consider her “black”? Marx wrote about workers not about so-called races. Though he said some unkind racial things in a letter about a Jewish person named Lassalle.

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 24, 2016 at 8:30 pm

        Marxism in the West has indeed become mixed up with the idea of race–Marx’s own views on race are immaterial.

      • Angemon says

        Apr 25, 2016 at 6:36 am

        maghan posted:

        “Marx wrote about workers not about so-called races. ”

        Marxism failed to get a foothold in the Wet because overall the middle class was doing well – there were no economical grievances to capitalize (eh) on. So “intellectuals” started applying Marxist principles to the culture. It went from the working class being exploited by the greedy bourgeoisie to minorities (ethnic, religious, etc.) being oppressed by the majority. What happens now is that special interests groups focus on a specific subset of victims of a general problem and claim discrimination.

  15. Reni Jollant says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 3:51 pm

    Blatant Islamophobia is the ONLY WAY to protect yourself & your family from the mad dog Muslims.

  16. SpiritOf1683 says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 4:24 pm

    Thats a mesure of how thick students are in Britain. Far better generations fought for their freedoms. I wonder how many students realise that Jihadis kidnapped people from Cornwall in the 17th Century.

  17. SpiritOf1683 says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 4:28 pm

    You can be sure that those terrorists who rained gunfire on her school weren’t Jewish. She want’s sending bavck to Algeria.

  18. R Cole says

    Apr 23, 2016 at 6:53 pm

    She’s from the Berber tribe of North Africa.

    Know in ancient times as the Moors – from Mauretania Caesariensis.

    According to the CIA Factbook – although the majority of Algerians identify as Arab culturally – 99% are of Berber descent.

    It has been said that only 15% of those who call themselves Arab are actually Arab.

    There was alt least one early Christian Saint from Algeria – according to portraits looked little different from the people there today.

    ::

    Whatever they call themselves today – it is the Islamic agenda that is the problem.

    Where the highest concern is being called a ‘racist’ – and of not what is right or truthful – then tyranny can take root.

    Students are being grilled to show deference to Islam and race – and this girl fits the bill.

    She understood the PC game was in all-things-Islam’s favor – played it and won.
    Intolerance is only for views expressed which oppose her Islamic opinion. [Wait until they get their foot in the door with Islamic law – you might be imprisoned for saying you don’t want it – all while others look on and think it perfectly acceptable!]

    These students should now, be getting a lesson in how their utopian safe space – can be so easily turned on its head.

    At least if some are objecting – that’s a start!

    • LR says

      Apr 24, 2016 at 10:48 pm

      PC (insanity) game must be it.

      For someone not even willing to condemn ISIS, and they get elected? My god!

      I sure hope there are plenty of students there confronting this BS.

  19. Singh the Sikh says

    Apr 24, 2016 at 7:07 am

    She is just further evidence that Muslim emigration to Europe has been a diastrous and collosal mistake.
    UK would have better off without this bitch, she is just an effing nuisance to the country and it’s non Muslim population, just as her brethren from Pakistan and Middle East. Endless complaints, problems, issues, demands, just FO back to your original Islamic haven the UK is such a difficult place to live in.

  20. wallace says

    Apr 24, 2016 at 2:14 pm

    Following Obama’s visit to the Uk i have had cause to seriously re-evaluate my way of thinking. I was of the mind that the potus was an arrogant ,self-serving ,Muslim loving golfer of colour, who was over here with his delightful wife to persuade me to vote to remain in the E.U .How wrong i was, it turned out that in fact he had to come to wish old Lizzie my beloved queen a happy birthday, and also to meet the new royal sprog Prince George. At a speech in London he urged me to reject cynicism , i am certainly going to try .

    • herbplanter says

      Apr 24, 2016 at 3:59 pm

      Stay tuned for Obama hypno-toad!

  21. citycat says

    Apr 24, 2016 at 2:15 pm

    Photos can be deceiving, i know, bus she looks like Rastas i used to know, who were always going on about Holy Mount Zion, and smoking ganga, and shouting Rastafareye!
    Maybe it’s a family affaire, nothing to do with Islãm really.

  22. gravenimage says

    Apr 24, 2016 at 6:25 pm

    UK: National Union of Students top dog says condemning the Islamic State would be “blatant Islamophobia”
    ……………………

    *Good God*. Good to see some resistance to this insanity among British students.

  23. Ian says

    Apr 24, 2016 at 7:22 pm

    She also, allegedly, said openly hostile things about Jews. The UK students need to wake up pretty quickly and boot her out!

  24. gravenimage says

    Apr 24, 2016 at 8:33 pm

    Let’s see how this vicious Muslimah would actually like living under the Islamic State.

  25. LR says

    Apr 24, 2016 at 10:32 pm

    Well, the end of this article sure leaves one wondering.

    “I know too well the price of terrorism, the consequences of violence and oppression, I saw a country ripped apart by terror and was pushed into exile by its doing. I know too well the damage done by racism and persecution – I faced it every day.”

    Well, if that is so, then why Malia, are you NOT willing to condemn ISIS? If you truly know the price of such violence and oppression, and you are not willing to condemn it, then you are either a coward, a sympathizer, or both.

    Hirsi Ali has guts, you don’t.

    • linnte says

      Apr 24, 2016 at 10:40 pm

      Haha! Correct! She is a coward! Hirsi is a hero!

  26. Mark A says

    Apr 25, 2016 at 3:25 am

    How can condemning ISIS be Islamophobia? President Obama and many of his little minions have said repeatedly that ISIS has nothing to do with Islam.

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