Last Wednesday night, April 13, I spoke in Ottawa. The full video is forthcoming but in the meantime, here is my response to a questioner who detailed a long list of Islam’s alleged contributions to civilization, and its reputed history of tolerance.
Video thanks to Vlad Tepes.
celticwarriorcanada says
Great job Robert ! I can’t wait to see the whole video !
Panmelia says
You socked it to ’em, Robert! Wish I knew as much as you, but I started looking into it all relatively recently.
Your contribution is so enlightening and fearless that you deserve a Nobel prize.
Richard Paulsen says
Can imagine how it must have been watching powerlessly your country being turned into a dictatorship and you just can´t do anything to stop it.
You are against, protest all that you can, your protesting is being stopped like other´s. No use of protesting. Just being turned into mud. Like in Russia 1917 and on, in Germany before WW2 and in Iran 1979.
Seems very much the same now. Sitting just like a lame duck. the most intelligent and competent people as well. Ruled by people who should not. Like so many times before. A shame. Must vote for better leaders. They make the decisions. Not others.
Jay Boo says
Hand wringing and tossing in the towel is a decision too.
Richard,
Instead of whining that “They make the decisions” (politicians) you need to make a decision.
Richard Paulsen says
Must pull myself together.
Myron J. Poltroonian says
Um, to be blunt: “No shit, Sherlock”!
Jay Boo says
An excellent response to a multiple question.
However, I might caution as I am sure Robert is aware, that sometimes these multiple unrelated questions will be an attempt to trip up the speaker into saying something not quite as the speaker intended that can be nitpicked later.
BC says
A favoured technique of journalists when asking politicians
Myron J. Poltroonian says
Especially those with whom they are in disagreement with.
Charli Main says
Ah, yes. The myth about how a hoard of ignorant Muslim goat herders from Morocco, invaded Romano-Visigothic Spain and created the Golden Age of Islam. From mud huts and goat skin tents, they started building palaces with central heating, cities with mains drainage, aqueducts and universities, bringing light, knowledge and civilization to the backward kaffirs that were living there. RAOTFL
Angemon says
Don’t forget seafaring – arab muslims living in the desert came and explained to the Phoenicians, Italians, Spaniars, etc. how to build sail.
Angemon says
Damn CPU-intensive tasks. It should read “Spaniards, etc. how to build boats and sail.”
Myron J. Poltroonian says
LOL! Yes, “Mr.SpelCzech” does have his nefarious ways about him, doesn’t he?
mortimer says
Charli Main wrote: “The myth about how a horde of ignorant Muslim goat herders from Morocco, invaded Romano-Visigothic Spain and created the Golden Age of Islam.”
After several generations, mullahs decided that the Arab scholars of Andalusia were HERETICS and all of there writings were condemned. Then, Islam reverted to intolerance, stupidity, laziness and obscurantism. It has remained wallowing in academic and philosophical backwardness ever since then.
Westman says
Mortimer,
There is a good description on WIKI under the title “Islamic Golden Age”. It was interesting reading and it supports that many outside scholars, including Christians, were translating classical works into Arabic. Bagdad was a center for scholars, many non-muslim. However, the Arabs were paying the bills at the time and the kaliphate leaders were genuinely interested in gaining the classical knowledge. Of course that died out.
There were some Islamic contributions in the field of Algebra and the use of algorithms, the naming rights coming from the translations.
However the claimed Islamic developments in Physics are abysmal, consisting of conjectures in the Aristotelian sense, with a little experimenting and no mathematical proofs, underpinning, or ability to calculate results or make predictions. A few right ideas were deduced, such as reaction to an action(without understanding they are equal), but no method to prove or make use of them. That would require Galileo and Newton. Like Aristotle the Islamic contribution to Physics was intellectual reasoning, without proof, and unuseful. It’s worth reading to see its actual nature.
Nancy says
Here is info few know:
http://indiafacts.org/the-myth-of-islamic-science/
BC says
Not to mention the 5000 years of Chinese inventiveness.
Angemon says
Speaking of Baghdad and the “golden age of islam”:
https://parseundparse.wordpress.com/2012/01/20/the-golden-age-of-islam-another-theft-of-persian-heritage-and-history/
Ted Tyler says
Here is a short video, part of which is on the Fall of Islamic Science, by Neil degrasse Tyson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xU6uj-Saec
Tom says
Of course, Randy can find no errors in the substance. So he resorts to personal attacks. Type tactic of the Regressive Left.
Jerry says
I always enjoy listening to and reading Robert Spencer. He’s remarkably lucid, interesting, and factual. His strong delivery is in tune with his high level of expertise. I always walk away from such an encounter thinking I’ve just heard the final word on the matter. To me Spencer is a five star general in this war against islamic fascism. I really don’t know what we’d do with out him, there’s so few brave voices out there that can match his ability. I hope he lives a long and healthy life.
Panmelia says
And so say all of us, Jerry.
Kepha says
Oh, horsefeathers, Panmelia, you beat me to the punch.
pdxnag says
The intolerant fascist Left think they are the moral champions of tolerance against intolerance. They will scream like rabid banshees to prove it.
Walter Sieruk says
So far as Islam giving any real ,as in valid and actual “contributions to civilization” of genuine value or worth is a topic, that of great controversy. One main thing about Islam is that it’s based on a book that ,in spite of the objections of the imams and mullahs to the contrary, is a book, the Koran or as come call it the Quran,which the apologists for Islam ,try as they might, can never find an valid augment to prove case the case on that the Quran is the literal true word of God. For example,a claim by Islamic scholars as well as jihadists is that no one can produce something as beautiful as the Quran in the way the words are arranged and thus it can only be of God. This claim should be answered. First, all someone has to do is examine some of the great works of literature to fine much written beauty. Such as the Greek epic poet Homer with his Iliad and Odyssey and then Virgil who produced the Aeneid has beauty. Even one of the non-Bible books in the Apocrypha called The Song of Three Children is also very beautiful. Thus just because someone sees a work that is written in great beauty doesn’t mean it’s inspired by God. Second, the scholar Edward Gibbon wrote after an examination of the Quran that it is an “incoherent jumble of fable and precept and declamation which seldom excites a sentiment or an idea, sometimes craws in the dust and is sometimes lost in the clouds…” The writer Thomas Carlyle wrote the Quran is “A wearisome jumble, crude, incondite [with] endless iterations [and] longwindedness…” Likewise, the philosopher David Hume was NOT favorably impressed after reading the Quran.
[Source of the three scholars mentioned – Secrets of The Koran: Revealing Insight Into Islam’s Holy Book .56,66, by Don Richardson]
Furthermore, the following should be taken into consideration.
Of course the Muslim who reads the Quran will see great beauty in the way the words are arranged. This is, in part, because of the power of suggestion after being told so many times that the Quran is so beautifully written. That’s an old brainwashing method, repeating and being told that same thing again and again. Since he or she is always being told the same lie will end up believing that lie. In addition to that, the Imams try to discourage their people from reading other works, such as the Bible, so then they don’t have much or anything to compare or contrast the Quran with. Of course there are some Muslim’s that do read other works, but they are exceptions and they read other things only after they were already brainwashed by the Imams. In short, the Muslims can’t read the Quran objectively because their Imams have programmed them to have a strong bias towards it.
A claim by Islamic scholars as well as jihadists is that no one can produce something as beautiful as the Quran in the way the words are arranged and thus it can only be of God. This claim should be answered.
First, all someone has to do is examine some of the great works of literature to fine much written beauty. Such as the Greek epic poet Homer with his Iliad and Odyssey and then Virgil who produced the Aeneid has beauty. Even one of the non-Bible books in the Apocrypha called The Song of Three Children is also very beautiful. Thus just because someone sees a work that is written in great beauty doesn’t mean it’s inspired by God.
Second, the scholar Edward Gibbon wrote after an examination of the Quran that it is an “incoherent jumble of fable and precept and declamation which seldom excites a sentiment or an idea, sometimes craws in the dust and is sometimes lost in the clouds…” The writer Thomas Carlyle wrote the Quran is “A wearisome jumble, crude, incondite [with] endless iterations [and] longwindedness…” Likewise, the philosopher David Hume was NOT favorably impressed after reading the Quran.
[Source of the three scholars mentioned – Secrets of The Koran: Revealing Insight Into Islam’s Holy Book .56,66, by Don Richardson]
Furthermore, the following should be taken into consideration.
Of course the Muslim who reads the Quran will see great beauty in the way the words are arranged. This is, in part, because of the power of suggestion after being told so many times that the Quran is so beautifully written. That’s an old brainwashing method, repeating and being told that same thing again and again. Since he or she is always being told the same lie will end up believing that lie. In addition to that, the Imams try to discourage their people from reading other works, such as the Bible, so then they don’t have much or anything to compare or contrast the Quran with. Of course there are some Muslim’s that do read other works, but they are exceptions and they read other things only after they were already brainwashed by the Imams. In short, the Muslims can’t read the Quran objectively because their Imams have programmed them to have a strong bias towards it.
Ted Tyler says
Of course the Muslim who reads the Quran will see great beauty in the way the words are arranged. This is, in part, because of the power of suggestion after being told so many times that the Quran is so beautifully written. That’s an old brainwashing method, repeating and being told that same thing again and again. Since he or she is always being told the same lie will end up believing that lie.
The power of suggestion and “thinking what you are supposed to think” is in play here. Reminds me of “The Emperor’s new cloths”.
Brian Hockersmith says
I can’t to see the entire video.Robert I wish I had even 10% of your knowledge on the subject of Islam,though I am learning very quickly!Thank you again for fearlessly defending freedom and educating the masses. God Bless.
William says
The Arab conquest created the conditions for a state of almost permanent warfare in the Iberian Peninsula that put especial emphasis upon destruction and the display of dead enemies, with a lively slave trade as an additional incentive. This continued throughout the period covered in this book, and in scale and intensity exceeded anything to be found elsewhere in Western Europe in these centuries. Even in Córdoba at its cultural apogee it will have been hard to escape the reek of decomposing flesh from the decapitated heads displayed on the gates and the bodies of those publically crucified, left to rot in front of the palace.
Quite why this roseate image of an age of mutual toleration has taken so strong a hold on the popular imagination both in the United States and throughout Europe is not easy to say. Perhaps we would like to believe that something we wish to achieve today once existed in the past, and therefore can seem an attainable goal. Worthy as the ideal may be, it needs to stand on its own two feet and not be made to rely on overly optimistic, and thus anachronistic, readings of the past. If there was a brief flicker of such mutual toleration in the Umayyad period, it was not something that was consciously intended or was recognized at the time.
Source: Caliphs and Kings, Spain 796 – 1031 by Roger Collins
Tom W Harris says
For a shorter answer try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWza5PQA5Zc
David Hodara says
I wish to commend your courageous ‘battle’ to enlighten the world on Islam and its Jihad. What is extremely incomprehensible is the stubborness of our western democratic politicians and their medias who seem to consistently refuse to face realities and thus not inform their readers of the real situation. The world is the hostage of islamic terrorism, which does not hide its goal to islamize the world, as expressed in their Holy Coran, whilst expressing it openly in our democratic countries – which have a moslemn population of about 69 millions of muslim immigrants – without any ort of intervention to condemn it. The United Nations – which seem to ihave forgotten the original rules of its existence – and particularly the its Human Rights Commission are definitely under the influence of the Muslim world. Instead of helping you in your fight, the western world close their eyes. If there is finally an awakening it might be too late.
Daho
sham says
ISLAMIC CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY:
1) NO BLINDLY KILLING HUMAN BEING:
PROHIBIT KILLING WITH UNJUST:
5: 32. Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land – it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allah by committing the major sins) in the land!.
6: 151. Say (O Muhammad SAW): “Come, I will recite what your Lord has prohibited you from: Join not anything in worship with Him; be good and dutiful to your parents; kill not your children because of poverty – We provide sustenance for you and for them; come not near to Al-Fawâhish (shameful sins, illegal sexual intercourse, etc.) whether committed openly or secretly, and kill not anyone whom Allâh has forbidden, except for a just cause (according to Islâmic law). This He has commanded you that you may understand.
Muslim :: Book 1 : Hadith 371
Yazid al-Faqir said: This view of the Khwarij (i. e. those who commit major sins and would be eternally doomed to Hell)
Muslim :: Book 1 : Hadith 159 ,160
Ubaidullah b. Abu Bakr said: I heard Anas b. Malik saying: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) talked about the major sins, or he was asked about the major sins. Upon this he observed: Associating anyone with Allah, killing of a person, disobedience to parents. He (the Holy Prophet further) said: Should I not inform you about the gravest of the major sins, and (in this connection) observed: False utterance or false testimony. Shu’ba said. It was most probably” false testimony”.
17: 33. And do not kill anyone which Allah has forbidden, except for a just cause. And whoever is killed (intentionally with hostility and oppression and not by mistake), We have given his heir the authority [(to demand Qisâs, Law of Equality in punishment or to forgive, or to take Diya (blood money)]. But let him not exceed limits in the matter of taking life (i.e he should not kill except the killer only). Verily, he is helped (by the Islamic law).
25: 68. And those who invoke not any other ilâh (god) along with Allah, nor kill such life as Allah has forbidden, except for just cause, nor commit illegal sexual intercourse and whoever does this shall receive the punishment.
2) KILLING CHILDREN /WOMEN PROHIBITED:
Malik :: Book 21 : Hadith 21.3.10
Do not kill women or children or an aged, weak person,Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees.Do not destroy an inhabited place. Do not slaughter sheep or camels except for food. Do not burn bees and do not scatter them. Do not steal from the booty,
Malik :: Book 21 : Hadith 21.3.8
Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab that a son of Kab ibn Malik (Malik believed that ibn Shihab said it was Abd ar-Rahman ibn Kab) said, “The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, forbade those who fought ibn Abi Huqayq (a treacherous jew from Madina) to kill women and children. He said that one of the men fighting had said, ‘The wife of ibn Abi Huqayq began screaming and I repeatedly raised my sword against her. Then I would remember the prohibition of the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, so I would stop. Had it not been for that, we would have been rid of her.’ ”
Muslim :: Book 19 : Hadith 4456
……….And the of Allah (may peace be upon him) did not kill the children of the enemy, so thou shouldst not kill the children……………
Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 52 :: Hadith 257,258
Narrated Ibn ‘Umar:
During some of the Ghazawat of Allah’s Apostle a woman was found killed, so Allah’s Apostle forbade the killing of women and children.
Dawud :: Book 14 : Hadith 2608
Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Go in Allah’s name, trusting in Allah, and adhering to the religion of Allah’s Apostle. Do not kill a decrepit old man, o a young infant, or a child, or a woman; do not be dishonest about booty, but collect your spoils, do right and act well, for Allah loves those who do well.
Muslim :: Book 19 : Hadith 4294
Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, do not embezzle the spoils; do not break your pledge; and do not mutilate (the dead) bodies; do not kill the children.
3) SEX WITH SLAVE GIRL PROHIBITED:
Forced sex with slave punishment let free the slave/wife slave sex punishment equal slave give to the wife with permission of wife:
Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4445
Narrated Salamah ibn al-Muhabbaq:
The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) made a decision about a man who had intercourse with his wife’s slave-girl as follows. If he forced her, she is free, and he shall give her mistress a slave-girl similar to her; if she asked him to have intercourse voluntarily, she will belong to him, and he shall give her mistress a slave-girl similar to her.
Dawud :: Book 12 : Hadith 2304
Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah:
Musaykah, a slave-girl of some Ansari, came and said: My master forces me to commit fornication. Thereupon the following verse was revealed: “But force not your maids to prostitution (when they desire chastity).”
Forced sex with slave prohibited:
Malik :: Book 41 : Hadith 41.2.13
Malik related to me from Nafi that Safiyya bint Abi Ubayd informed him that a man who had had intercourse with a virgin slave-girl and made her pregnant was brought to Abu Bakr as-Siddiq. He confessed to fornication, and he was not muhsan. Abu Bakr gave the order and he was flogged with the hadd punishment. Then he was banished to Fadak, (thirty miles from Madina).
Malik :: Book 41 : Hadith 41.3.15
Malik related to me from Nafi that a slave was in charge of the slaves in the khumus and he forced a slave-girl among those slaves against her will and had intercourse with her. Umar ibn al-Khattab had him flogged and banished him, and he did not flog the slave-girl because the slave had forced her.
4) KILLING APOSTATE PROHIBITED
Peacful Apostate not killed:
Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 56 :: Hadith 814
Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 30 :: Hadith 107,108
Muslim :: Book 31 : Hadith 6087 [not blindly kill innocent people]
Apostate not killed:
Muslim :: Book 38 : Hadith 6693
Anas b. Malik reported: There was a person amongst us who belonged to the tribe of Bani Najjar and he recited Sura al-Baqarah and Surat Al-i-‘Imran and he used to transcribe for Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him). He ran away as a rebel and joined the People of the Book. They gave it much importance and said: He is the person who used to transcribe for Muhammad and they were much pleased with him. Time rolled on that Allah caused his death. They dug the grave and buried him therein, but they found to their surprise that the earth had thrown him out over the surface. They again dug the grave for him and buried him but the earth again threw him out upon the surface. They again dug the grave for him and buried him but the earth again threw him out upon the surface. At last they left him unburied.
5) ISLAM ORDERED FREEING /MARRING /GIVE EDUCATION /KEEP GOOD MANNERS TO SLAVE GIRL
Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 52 :: Hadith 255
Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 55 :: Hadith 655
Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 46 :: Hadith 720,723
Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 62 :: Hadith 20, 98
Muslim :: Book 8 : Hadith 3327,3327
Muslim :: Book 1 : Hadith 285
Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash’ari:
Allah’s Apostle said, “If a person teaches his slave girl good manners properly, educates her properly, and then manumits and marries her, he will get a double reward. And if a man believes in Jesus and then believes in me, he will get a double reward. And if a slave fears his Lord (i.e. Allah) and obeys his masters, he too will get a double reward.”
Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 46 :: Hadith 721
Narrated Al-Ma’rur bin Suwaid:
‘Your slaves are your brethren upon whom Allah has given you authority. So, if one has one’s brethren under one’s control, one should feed them with the like of what one eats and clothe them with the like of what one wears. You should not overburden them with what they cannot bear, and if you do so, help them (in their hard job).”
Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 2 :: Hadith 29
Malik :: Book 54 : Hadith 54.16.40,54.16.41
Muslim :: Book 15 : Hadith 4092,4093, 4094,4095
Your slaves are your brothers and Allah has put them under your command. So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them.’ ”
6) ISLAM PROHIBITED CHILD MARRIAGE:
[017:034] Come not nigh to the orphan’s property except to improve it, until he attains the ”age of full strength”; and fulfill (every) ”engagement”, for (every) engagement will be enquired into (on the Day of Reckoning).[MARRIAGE IS AN ENGAGEMENT]
024:059] But when the children among you ”come of age”, let them (also) ask for ”permission”, as do those senior to them (in age): Thus does God make clear His Signs to you: for God is full of knowledge and wisdom.
24:58. O you who believe! Let your legal slaves and slave-girls, and those among you who have not come to the *******age of puberty ask your permission******* (before they come to your presence) on three occasions;
Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 8 :: Hadith 465
Narrated ‘Aisha:
(the wife of the Prophet) I had seen my parents following Islam since****** I attained the age of puberty********. Not a day passed but the Prophet visited us, both in the mornings and evenings. My father Abii Bakr thought of building a mosque in the courtyard of his house and he did so.
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 86 :: Hadith 101
Dawud :: Book 11 : Hadith 2091
Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:
A virgin came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and mentioned that her father had married her against her will, so the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) allowed her to exercise her choice.
PROPHET MUHAMMAD SA SAYS
Dawud :: Book 29 : Hadith 3952
Narrated AbuHurayrah:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: **************The child of adultery is worst of the three.**************
vcragain says
Sham : I see you are trying to give a different view of Islam than the one that we are getting from ISIS etc – we in the West have a hard time trusting any Muslims because we do not see anyone getting angry at them and decrying what they are saying – we only hear SILENCE and no action taken against them by any Muslims of milder beliefs ! The reason we suppose there is no reaction can only be that you do not DARE to criticize them – either because you actually know they follow Islam, or because you are too terrified to stand up to them ????? If this is so what you are doing is called COWARDICE and in any case is leading to everyone being subjected to the extremes of the cult of Islam and we view the future as very dangerous to our own survival, and allowing your cult to expand and engulf the West is suicide for everyone else ! What is your answer to THAT – YOU have to be seen to fight them yourselves otherwise we can never trust you !!!! If a group of Christians stood up and started killing Hindus because they declared they were infidels and Jesus said to kill them – the Christian world would be stopping them and shouting LOUD that this is NOT Christianity – they would get stomped on – where is YOUR outrage and fury at people you claim are NOT true Mujslims ? You are trying to say it is OUR fault for not just ignoring their threats – they are invading OUR COUNTRIES AND KILLING PEOPLE IN THE NAME of your faith – YOU need to stand up to them otherwise you are ALL to blame !!
vcragain says
We can only assume without a fierce adverse reaction to your cult’s extreme’s that you and all ‘peaceful’ Muslims are simply following the ‘lay low’ policy and your little lecture including peaceful, ‘loving’ verses of the Koran is all about keeping the West ‘quiet’ so that the formula for gradual invasion can go forward until we are completely overtaken and the full realization of the EVIL of your cult is realized in our lives. I am aware and awake and have been for years since those mosques sprouted up in my home city of London, UK in the 60’s, that ‘something is afoot’ – my whole being was screaming ‘watch out’ and I have not forgotten how I felt – call it instinct, but I listen when that happens ! We are in danger from your cult !
Angemon says
sham posted:
“ISLAMIC CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY:”
https://parseundparse.wordpress.com/2012/01/20/the-golden-age-of-islam-another-theft-of-persian-heritage-and-history/
A legacy of destruction and torment – that is the islamic contribution to society.
“1) NO BLINDLY KILLING HUMAN BEING:
PROHIBIT KILLING WITH UNJUST:
5: 32. Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land – it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allah by committing the major sins) in the land!.”
Again, sham, it’s up to me to school you on your scriptures. 5:32 clearly says “Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel “. Now, who were the “Children of Israel”? Israelite – Jews. 5:32 is straight of the Jewish Torah, telling what was ordained to Jews. If you want to know what was ordained for muslims, look at the next verse, 5:33:
Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,
What constitutes “causing corruption”? Well, that’s a fluid concept. Preaching a religion other than islam in a muslim-majority country. Telling a truth a muslims wouldn’t want others to know about. Having non-muslim troops stationed in a muslim majority nation.
“2) KILLING CHILDREN /WOMEN PROHIBITED:”
It is reported on the authority of Sa’b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him), when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: “They are from them.”
The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) used not to kill the children, so thou shouldst not kill them unless you could know what Khadir had known about the child he killed, or you could distinguish between a child who would grow up to he a believer (and a child who would grow up to be a non-believer), so that you killed the (prospective) non-believer and left the (prospective) believer aside.
“3) SEX WITH SLAVE GIRL PROHIBITED:”
quran 4:24
And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess.
Those who your right hand possess are slave girls – muslims are not allowed to have sex with married women (other than their own, that is) unless they happen to be slaves girls. Islamic apologists like to say “oh, but that was not forced, the slave girls consented”. First of all, they were slaves – they had no saying on the matter. Second, this verse allows muslim men to have sex with married slave girls. Married girls. What, they were married but decided they wanted to f*** their master? Pull my other leg…
“6) ISLAM PROHIBITED CHILD MARRIAGE:”
Muhammad married a 6-year-old girl. Muhammad is presented as the perfect example of conduct that muslims are to emulate as closely as possible. That’s why child marriages are endemic in muslim countries.
Champ says
“sham” wrote:
“ISLAMIC CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY”
What an oxymoron. Not unless you consider the spread of cancer aka islam a “CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY.”
More nonsense and SPAM from “sham” the shyster.
aaron mrand says
every society has contributed Something to the STEW that the world is today…give the arab his due for
any positive development and sharing of same with other cultures…HOWEVER, nothing of the death
dealing, death centered, death driven culture of islam is worth the powder to blow it straight to hell….
and that IS where It will wind up eventually…..because Nothing that is built on the spilled blood of
another done in anger or covetesnous will Last…Nothing….do not believe me? Start counting the
so-called civilizations who have “ruled” the world(?) that have lasted/remained intact……..
Judith Neese says
Thank you. Sharia law was not mentioned. The people in the west do not seem to understand that there is no separation between mosque and state. A large % of Muslims believe that Sharia should prevail, even in the West. This is the way they will continue to attack us. I wish more emphasis was placed on this info.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Robert – you were here in Ottawa last week?
WTF – Who sponsored this event?
Why wasn’t I told?!
David M says
I wish I would have known Robert was going to be speaking in Ottawa as well. I would have loved to hear him speak live.
aaron mrand says
USA # 1….don’t like the way your beans are served? L E A V E! Really simple……