The code of chivalry from the Edwardian Era has a completely different meaning in today’s Europe.
The Munk Debate of April 1 revealed something we feared existed but had never before seen in such naked and shameless display: a misogyny far worse — if one can believe it — than that baked into Islam’s DNA. The Left’s premier statesmen and scholars openly mocked virtuous men who had the temerity to condemn Muslim refugee sexual assaults on our sisters and daughters and sons.
But that is not all. Following the debate the Left’s twitter feeds lit up with denunciations of the facts presented by Nigel Farage and Mark Steyn. “Very dubious… lynch-mob rumours… urban myths” they sneered, and in their derision of the messengers proved they match and even exceed the misogyny of their exalted peers.
The facts can’t be sneered away, not when they include, as Mark Steyn noted,
“hundreds and hundreds of Continental media reports” [each word a separate link], chief among them the nearly 500 sexual assaults by Muslim migrants in Cologne, and “mass coordinated gang assaults in Bielefeld, Dortmund, Düsseldorf, Frankfurt, Hamburg and Stuttgart – totaling just shy of 2,000 victims.”
Other European and Scandinavian countries suffered just as badly. “Never seen anything like this before” is the common headline concerning the “Unreal Surge in Refugee Sex Attacks.“
If you want more linked reports of Muslim refugee rape (and terrorism and other) crimes in Europe, sift through the past seven months here. Add in the UK’s Rotherham Muslim rape gangs over the past decade and the numbers are so vast as to be apocalyptic.
But since they sound so much more convincing in German, here are a few of Steyn’s specific citations:
That 16-year-old boy raped in Wolfsburg City Hall I mentioned? Attacked by a 36-year-old “Asylbewerber” – or “asylum seeker”. That 15-year-old girl raped in Wuppertal? Another Asylbewerber. The 12-year-old boy sexually assaulted in Mudersbach? Go on, take a wild guess: einen asylsuchenden Mann aus Syrien – an asylum-seeking man from Syria. But, according to the ever more confident Saunders of the Globe, not a single Asylbewerber was involved in any of these incidents.
Those elitist Liberals who deny the reality and scale of Muslim sexual assaults on women and children across Europe are perfectly at one with the “New Men” of the West. You know, the German “men” who weren’t there for their women and children when they were getting gang-raped by Muslim savages.
The Munk Debate and its aftermath not only strips the mask off the Left’s apathy towards its own women and children, but also confirms the contempt held for its citizens by Europe’s ruling elite who, in the very heat of the New Year’s Eve mass sexual assaults by Muslim migrants across Germany, ordered the media to cover up the incidents.
As if that weren’t totalitarian enough, the widespread assault on free speech across Europe concerning the Muslim migrant invasion rivals anything under Stalin or Khrushchev:
Dutchmen who tweet their opposition to the construction of “refugee” centers in their towns receive visits from police who threaten them with charges of sedition. A Belgian who spoke out about Muslim children in the city’s schools cheering the recent Brussels attacks welcomed three policemen to his door. And a London man who tweeted about his decision to confront a Muslim over her views on the Brussels attacks was arrested, had his home raided, and all his computer equipment seized. More well-known, Germany’s Chancellor Angela Merkel was caught on an open microphone asking Facebook founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg to curtail speech critical of “the wave of Syrian refugees entering Germany.”
In the Victorian and Edwardian era, real men had a sense of chivalry. “Women and children first” was the principle when it came time to fill the lifeboats on the Titanic.
But now, in today’s Britain and Europe, “women and children first” has a completely different meaning.
Now, Muslim migrants in British and European cities rape “women and children first”, hunting them like “packs of wolves,” and today’s Liberals enable and cover for them. The Left is complicit in the mass rape of our younger sisters (and brothers), some as young as two and three years old.
Morally, the Liberals and ruling class are no less guilty for covering up Europe’s Muslim mass rape crimes than the Roman Catholic Church was for covering up widespread sexual abuse of children by priests.
Yes, it’s “women and children first” all right. They are the first victims — the canaries in the coal mine — of the Muslim civilizational jihad in lock-step with the cultural suicide of a post-Christian society whose rotting husk doesn’t even care to defend its weakest and most vulnerable members, but rather accelerates the importation of the agents of its own demise.
The Enlightened and Progressive Left openly sacrifices “women and children first” on the altar of multiculturalism. The protection of Islam and Muslim migrants trumps the protection of our daughters and sons, whom the Left abandons to be raped in swimming pools, parks and even in city hall, blaming and scolding them to cover up and “just say Stop“, while openly mocking those who denounce the crimes.
And while our women and children are the first victims, the loss of our freedom of speech to jackboot government efforts to shut down dissent and protect Islam from criticism swiftly follows.
There is no future for such a culture, a culture which offers up nothing better than hashtags, tears and teddy bears after each Muslim jihad attack or mass rape of our women and children. Virtue, righteousness and defense of our women and children? Gone with Western Liberal manhood, and with their very humanity.
Todays Liberal elitists are the ones of whom C.S. Lewis wrote seven decades ago:
“We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst.”
— The Abolition of Man, by C.S. Lewis
The collapse of Europe — of which the Muslim migrant invasion, gang rapes, jihad terrorist attacks, and sharia no-go zones are just the most deadly and obvious symptoms — has now morphed from what has long been a post-Christian decline into something far darker.
Europe is now revealed as a post-human totalitarian culture sinking into an abyss. And there are no life boats for this epic disaster.
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Ralph Sidway is an Orthodox Christian researcher and writer, and author of Facing Islam: What the Ancient Church has to say about the Religion of Muhammad. He operates the Facing Islam blog.
Champ says
Now, Muslim migrants in British and European cities rape “women and children first”, hunting them like “packs of wolves,”
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Indeed, this is “rape jihad” from muslims, and it has become an epidemic …
“The migrant crisis is out of control – millions of scrounging migrants are pouring into Europe and bringing their Islamic religion and way of life with them.”
https://youtu.be/1zfnLrNjhAU
linnte says
Muslim “refugees” want to impregnate Western women and breed Islam into the West. A Prima Nocte sort of thing. It has been ordered by Imam’s everywhere. 🙁
Myrtle says
How horrible can they get, they have made it there!!!
revereridesagain says
Who know the women will not be allowed to refuse to breed for these savages if the Religious Right has its way. Or the Pope. After all, a fertilized egg still has more “rights” than a woman…
Carolyne says
Reverend, you just get on the horse you came in and ride out again. I am a Conservative. I do not believe it is moral to force a woman who has been raped to carry her rapist’s child. You don’t sound like any kind of reverend to me. You sound like a leftist loon.
Dom1 says
Under Shariah law they can marry more than one women so with their apostasy threats their population can grow exponentially very quickly.
And linnte I think women should be given the opportunity to do anything a man is allowed to do including combat .I think there is a business opportunity now in Europe and elsewhere which has suffered the Islamic invasion to train women in defence and attack techniques. The Kurds have female soldiers in their ranks and the Daesch cowards run from them as they believe they wont go to heaven if killed by a women.Its much easier for them to kill a helpless prisoner!!!
Go Boudicca we love you!!!!
linnte says
Horray for Boudicca! She is my hero of the past!
old white guy says
I have said this in the past and I will say it once again. we are going to have fight our own to the death in order to fight our enemies.
Angemon says
Call me Victor Edward then.
Rob Porter says
Angemon, the principle of ‘Women and children first’ did not begin with the Titanic, it began when the British ship, HMS Birkenhead, a troop ship, was wrecked and sinking off the southern coast of South Africa. Mustered on deck, British soldiers had to wait until women and children were aboard life boats and gone.
Fessitude says
You mean those evil British Colonialists…?
Dean says
Perfect! I had heard it was something like that and probably not the first except it was recorded. The heroic soldier protects the homeland and of course prioritized our most cherished citizens, women and children. It is equality with a rational survival instinct. We owe our freedoms to those that master the guns that protect them. Perfectly civilized and a sharp contrast to savage tribesmen.
Angemon says
No, Evil White Bigoted European Xenophobic Islamophobic Patriarchy-Propagating Misogynist Homophobic Transphobic Ableist Male British Imperialist Colonialists. Did I leave out any staple of the grievance-mongering culture?
TheOldOligarch says
As the C.S. Lewis quote at the end points out; this is a result of the intentional destruction of traditional sex roles in Western societies. This is also going to be one of the largest obstacles; will people be willing to sacrifice Feminism, and just accept that civilization is a male project, which only men can build, maintain, or defend? It was all very well to pretend otherwise back when there were no real problems, but now the shit is about to hit the fan and we need men to be willing to lay down their lives for the cause, not women, it’s men who have to do this.
For a great many people, certainly the elites but I believe a scary number of ordinary folk as well, the restoration of traditional sex roles, and the acknowledgement that sexual equality is a stupid idea (since men and women are not equal) will be simply too high a price to pay for the trifling prize of saving Western civilization.
dumbledoresarmy says
What do you mean, *precisely*, by ‘the restoration of traditional sex roles’ and by ‘men and women are not equal’?
Be *specific*.
What level and type of education, in your ideal society, would be permitted for girls and women? Would certain professions, as once was the case, be forbidden to women? (Law, medicine? engineering? maths and science?) *I* studied Greek and Latin at University… was that wrong… do you regard that as a waste of time, even though it means I can now read the NT in the original language, koine Greek?). I have a female friend who has worked as an Engineer for years… I have other friends who have worked as lawyers. One of my friends, and god-mother of my eldest son, did her PhD in Applied Mathematics, and has recently been appointed as a Professor in her University… and I’ll tell you flat-out, she didn’t get it because she was female, but because she is *damn good at her job*. she’s a bl**dy good mathematician. In the church I attended there were women who worked as doctors… and my family doctor, for years, was a woman. Is that wrong, in your eyes? Unnatural? Evil? Do you believe that women, qua women, make worse doctors or than men and that all medical doctors should be men? I know a woman who has had a long and distinguished career as a diplomat, representing her country. Would you roll back the clock and decree that women not be permitted to be diplomats?
Would you go so far as to demand that the vote be removed from women in all western countries? (Beware: a significant portion of the resistance to Islam, as is moderately obvious from the nom de plumes of posters at this forum, is comprised of … women, women who will, the moment an Islamoresistant politician is presented to their attention, *vote* for that politician, so if you were to remove the vote from women, you would deny such women – myself and many others at this forum – the capacity to act in the political sphere.)
Would you require that women not be permitted to stand for political office, in any tier of government? But how do you compute the fact that France’s largest Islamoresistant party, the reformed Front National, is led by a *woman*?
Would you demand that (just as muslims in fully-Islamic states prevent a Dhimmi from holding *any* position in which a Dhimmi has authority over a Muslim) no woman, anywhere, in any field, should *ever* have a male as a subordinate? Female teachers, but not head-teachers/ school principals, in coed schools? Would you demand that all schooling from primary on up be segregated? Or that high schools and universities be sex-segregated?
What about work and pay? No more equal pay for equal work (i.e. pay a male checkout charlie more than his female equivalent? pay a male primary-school teacher more than his female counterpart? pay a male nurse/ wards man more than a female nurse?)
Would you go back to requiring that any woman who marries must resign from paid employment at once?
TheOldOligarch says
Well that’s a bloody relief I can tell you. Looks like men get to take this barbarian invasion off and let the superwomen handle one.
dumbledoresarmy says
So? You haven’t answered my question. *What sort of world* are you after? *What place* , exactly, do you envisage for women and girls? And I’ll add: how, precisely, does it differ from the place assigned to them by the mohammedan death cult?
Look, I am very very thankful for the guys who fought off the Mohammedan invasions in 732 at Tours, in 1565 at Malta, at Lepanto in 1571, and – most significant of all, as significant as that first battle at Tours – at Vienna in 1683. Besides, of course, I am tremendously admiring of the Israelis – both men *and* women, fighting side by side – who have defeated *three* massive successive Mohammedan onslaughts aimed at destroying their tiny reborn statelet and are also holding their own against a continual lower-level war of attrition (and I draw your attention to the fact that women in Israel – in a society that has spent its entire modern history fending off Jihad – are highly educated, energetic and active in all spheres of life; Israel is a modern civilised society that is also able to fight and win).
But here’s the thing: do you throw off – fight off – the mohammedan yoke only in order to *imitate*, to some extent, its view of the world and the place of females within the world? To exalt brute force and relegate females to the kitchen and the bedroom, because they’re too weak and stupid for anything else?
One hopes that the warriors of the free world fight not for a return to the middle ages nor even a return to the 16th or 18th or 19th century orderings of society, but for the survival of a world in which women are *partners*…not minors or property. And in which a woman does not *have* to marry – that is, in which marriage-and-kids is not the sole nor the only thing a woman is supposed to do – and is free to marry whom she chooses, and is free to use her god-given talents in whatever field they apply, for a fair wage? A world in which the birth of a daughter is as much of a blessing as the birth of a son…. because *every* human being is made in the image of God.
Western Canadian says
Of course he (big assumption there… only REAL losers hate women that much) does not answer you. He cannot. His suggestion is basically that since we in the west do NOT treat women living here like cattle or worse, the same as the muslims do, we are doomed to fall under the thrall of woman hating muslim hoards…. in which case women in the west will now be treated like cattle, or worse. Not much intelligence at work there…
Champ says
DDA, “TheOldOligarch” is not here for honest debate–that is quite clear. Don’t even bother asking this clown any questions.
STJOHNOFGRAFTON says
A man and a woman are complimentary. Each honours the other in their respective roles. The highest form of expression of the complimentary nature of opposite genders is marriage which God ordained as the basic building block of a healthy society and the ultimate in rearing new human life. Today’s secular society with its crazy gender reclassifications is falling apart, in large part, because the basic building blocks have been politically corrected out of existence by the faux egalitarian enlightenment practitioners who think thay are above God’s sovereignty.
Bukkdem Jizheads says
Polygamy is the core problem of Islam. That fundamental building block turns into an engine of violent, extranneous men, hideous misogyny and inbreeding. Happened with fundamentalist Mormons too, recently.
When it was banned in Turkey after WWI, the bloodiest, most imperialistic empire in recorded history, the Ottomans, were pacified. The veil was banned, women welcomed to universities, and the alphabet and curriculum were changed to Western. Turkey is the only sane Muslim nation, and thrives with no oil.
Granted, the Ottomans were on their last leg.
Dean says
Islam is codified tribal beliefs, prejudices and customs. Polygamy is only one minor difference with the civilized west and nothing relevant to this level of violence and death worship came out of traditional applications of polygamy as with the early Mormons. To make this a one issue problem primarily focused on religion misses the big picture entirely. The only relative domestic issues and weaknesses relate to relativistic progressives’ destruction of the civilized western values. Why are we arguing over trivialities when the clear enemies are the Islamic savages and domestic multicultural leftists. So many of you are advocating completely personal issues as a cause for internal debate while the house is on fire.
old white guy says
your statement does not deserve to be answered. men and women are different but are not equal in physical prowess. jeez there are dumb people everywhere.
linnte says
Hey, Old White Guy. Men certainly have larger muscles than women, but that doesn’t mean that women cannot overpower men. Especially a trained woman- she has different tactics is all. Celtic women used to fight right next to their men in battle. In this day and age strength is not measured in muscles anyway! A woman can kill a man just as quick with a rifle! I for one am a very good shot and I am not hesitant to take out an enemy. A woman fighting for her children, trust me, is way more dangerous than some guy humping hills looking for an enemy to shoot.
When it comes to mental prowess women and men are equals but have different styles. Women and men think differently it’s true, but when it comes to survival, both are equally lethal. Having large muscles does not make a man BETTER than a woman. It’s our brains that equal us out. This is proven every day in hospitals, fire departments, police departments, and even in the battle field.
And Paul the apostle said “there is neither Greek nor Jew, male nor female for we are all one in Christ.” When it comes to stamina, women excell over men simply because of our physiology. We have more fat reserves and more water reserves and we have less muscle that needs to be “fed”.
You see women today as the ” weaker” sex, yet when push comes to shove, women WILL rise up and be counted.
TheOldOligarch says
linnte. You’re living in a dream world.
Beagle says
linnte,
Push and shove are pounding on the door.
I find it amazing, though typical, that we’re still having inside western civilization baseball debates while the horde overwhelms the ramparts.
But if we must. Men _tend to_ be better combat soldiers, firemen, police, and whatnot due to higher average physical strength and tens of thousands of years of division of labor which involved men in the hunting, fighting, and protection roles. Why are men generally good at throwing to a target? Thousands of years of spear throwing and atlatl usage. The tribes with poor hunters didn’t eat. We see this skill displayed when a modern quarterback throws a football.
But hey, go ahead and defeat a violent male-dominated society without acknowledging the need for powerful men. Good luck. You’ll need it.
linnte says
Beagle, not once did I say we/I don’t need strong men. Hell, I go running to my neighbor when I can’t get the mayonnaise jar opened! What I did say was, women are capable. Period. And I can shoot as well as the next guy.
This issue brings out so many misogynists on this blog! I don’t know what kind of women you guys have been around, but surely they must be in subjugation like Muslim women. We are all in this together, but apparently not to you guys here. You make me sick.
Dean says
The savages are responsible for the molestation, battery and rape of beautiful western women and not women who disagree with traditional western female roles. If a few women who are confused and blame men for their personal issues, then any men who fail to cherish those that do appreciate men for natural masculinity harmonious with their individual femininity have issues of their own. The core family as developed in the west is the highest evolutionary form of human social arrangements and it can take many forms regarding bread winning or home care that is harmonious with those involved. Multiculturalism and relativism are the responsible enemies within that has disabled the appropriate responses to the savage tribal invasion. There is nothing gained by an ancient debate about who is mentally stronger of capable and consequently dominant or submissive. There are many options to the civilized as opposed to no options coming from the Islamic savages. There are obvious physical differences but I am reminded of a old Texas Ranger line that says, “it isn’t how big the man is in the fight, what matters is how big the fight is in the man.” The same applies to women of any size. American women have been shoulder to shoulder with American men and have created the homes in the pioneer wilderness.
linnte says
I fully enjoy the masculine. Probably more than I should hahahahahahaha! I just know from personal experience that women are tough in their own way. As are men. And I thank God for the difference he created, yet the minds equally able to think critically.
Dean says
The feminists that complain whenever a man discusses the physical differences, as required in military combat roles, suffers from the same problem as the men who think the differences define some kind of superiority or inferiority. The argument is irrational. It took a really smart, persistent and dedicated woman to find bin Laden and a couple dozen big burly men to kill the SOB. So what’s the problem?
linnte says
There isn’t a problem Dean, unless some old fart like the Old Oligarch insists women are incapable of standing up and fighting. Hahaha! I’d like him to run into some of my old biker women friends!
Dean says
I am 71 so you know how long ago I referencing. My mother could probably kick his butt and also thought that women who worked outside the home because they couldn’t get a good man with a good job that would give his wife the check so she could run the home business was stupid. Liberation comes in many forms and the the problem for the west is primitive tribalism masquerading as religion that can only tolerate one form of social arrangements.
Custos Custodum says
DDA – you make many good and justified points, but allow me to say that there is a larger picture. The big picture is that ANYTHING in human life can be abused and overdone. One can commit suicide by drinking too much water. Precisely profoundly decent human instincts can be and too often are perverted to ulterior ends.
It is axiomatic the overall ethos of a society naturally affects all women and men. Over the past 30 – 40 years, there has been a massive and and intentional push (particularly in the UK) to push back the sphere of social convention in favor of ever more fine-grained social management by government-controlled “jobsworths.”
Some Marxist/totalitarian activists since the mid-1800s have worked very hard to USE justified dissatisfaction experienced by some segment of society for their own ends of subverting the functioning of “bourgeois” society, aiming for the horrible dystopias of murderers like Stalin and Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Ernesto Guevara, etc. Once these revolutionaries gain power, their fervor in empowering “workers,” women, racial minorities, immigrants, etc. is suddenly forgotten. (The Soviet Union never quite accepted the West’s egalitarian ethos.)
The traditional roles of men particularly in the lower middle class and the former “working” class has undergone significant changes due to the hollowing out of industrial jobs and intentional campaigning.
These changes have resulted – I trust you will agree – in a real decline in chivalrous (and potentially self-sacrificing) behavior, particularly in public and in favor of strangers. All the brilliant women mathematicians, physicians and school principals that equality has given us typically will not use physical force to confront aggressive strangers abusing non-Muslim girls (particularly when the fatherless 13-year old girl has succumbed to the initial charm of a “grooming” gang). (Moreover, the average woman is no match for the average man in a physical fight.)
Muslims in the West make opportunistic use of the ecological niche created by the absence of chivalrous protectors in the public sphere. In this, they have been enabled and affirmed, consciously and over long periods, by leftist “social workers,” police etc.
However worthy one may think the stated aims and actual achievements of campaigns for equality between the sexes, the decline of visceral fighting spirit among disoriented men is undoubtedly a real corollary of these efforts. To a significant proportion of “social justice” campaign “cadres,” weakening and subverting the role especially of the former “working class” male and of the traditional family as a bulwark against state intrusion this is the primary aim of such campaigns as they seek to weaken and eliminate opposition to their visionary power-grabbing schemes.
In sum, then, it is not sufficient to ask whether social justice goals are worthy and reflective of ideals of human equality, potential, etc. One must also look at the actual overall social costs of implementing measures that appear worthy in and of themselves. Cowed and dispirited working class males supplanted economically by social security largess can hardly be expected to serve as chivalrous protectors of civil society. Sadly, there is no free lunch.
Fessitude says
“the decline of visceral fighting spirit among disoriented men ”
The visceral fighting spirit among the “anti-fascist” Leftists throughout Europe and UK — who seem to significantly outnumber the anti-Islam people — seems quite alive and well; a fighting spirit seen in innumerable cases of aggressive street demonstrations and Brown-shirt thuggery, a fighting spirit passionately inflamed by the cause of fighting in order to protect Muslims from “bigotry” and “racism” …
(And speaking of of Brown-shirt thuggery, let us recall our own American Leftists who demonstrated quite a visceral (and planned) fighting spirit effectively shutting down Trump’s Chicago rally — http://dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/3284/The-PCE-Pt-11-Donald-Trump-The-Lefts-Worst-Nightmare.aspx.)
The problem is not that Feminist Women and other Leftists have effectively emasculated men in general; the problem is that, by and large, the moral spirit & energy sincerely motivating Westerners to do good has, through the sociopolitical dominance of the worldview of PC MC, become “re-routed” so to speak, such that its object is now to protect Muslims from “Bigots” and “Racists”.
This neurosis has morphed to such a degree it sometimes verges on a psychosis — such that, when a PC MC is confronted with a choice to protect a white Western woman or child from being raped by a non-white non-Western Muslim, his internal anguish confronts the ethical dilemma — should I protect my own people of my own culture — the white Western woman or child being attacked — or should I choose the Higher Road of Avoiding “Racism” by defending her from a Muslim? All too often, PC MC (and even more so, Leftism), makes the choice for them, in their hearts & minds.
Fessitude says
Correction to my above comment:
“or should I choose the Higher Road of Avoiding “Racism” by defending her from a Muslim? ”
obviously, if the reader was following the logic of my argument, I accidentally inverted the semantics; it should read
“or should I choose the Higher Road of Avoiding “Racism” by NOT defending her from the Muslim attacking her? “
TheOldOligarch says
Of course i didn’t answer your question. Do you really think I’m going to write an essay on my ideal social order at the behest of some screeching, hysterical woman?
EVERYONE knows broadly what I meant by traditional sex roles. Men as providers and protectors, women as nurturers and caregivers of small children. We’ve done the experiment where neither sex performs it’s role, and it’s given us sub-replacement birth rates and an unopposed barbarian invasion.
There is no saving Western Civilization without a rejection of the modes of thinking that have lead us to this mess. That so many people, such as yourself, are so terrified of the natural sex roles that were considered normal for thousands of years goes to show the great success of the feminist/Marxist campaign of propaganda and misinformation on the issue.
The Other Jim says
Old Oiigarch, your commentary is so true. The sad bit is that so many, even here at Jihad Watch don’t understand the devastation caused by Feminism.
Black Pigeon Speaks commentary sums up the crisis the West faces in Why Women Destroy Nations’;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpVwBzFAkw
Personally, I think Karen Straughan aka Girl Writes What stated it nearly as well, albeit in a much longer commentary, ‘Fempocalypse’;
Western Canadian says
No Jim, the old morons comments are not even vaguely true. He is a very stupid and ill informed jerk, and that is about all that need be said about him, save perhaps for a comment or two on his obvious hatred of women, as well as general ignorance of the language.
And no, thesenilejackass, you failed to answer her because you cannot. She is not in any way a ‘screeching, hysterical woman’, but rather proof of just how utterly pathetic and weak mined a coward and jackass, you really are. EVERYONE knows that you co not formulate arguments, but are the one screeching, and obviously hysterical in your hatred of a woman who is smart enough and strong enough to NOT listen to your ignorant and bigoted drivel. You are so pathetically afraid of strong women, that you would make one hell of a muslim….
Fessitude says
I don’t think this sex role subversion by itself has led us to our present protracted crisis (= our inability to deal adequately with the ongoing destructive conquest of our civilization by a global revival of Islamic jihad); though I would say it is a symptom of a broader cultural process that has led us to this impending train wreck. Only someone unfamiliar with history would think that in the “old days” there were no women pursuing independent lives and careers in various remarkable ways. The difference between then and now is that then, such examples grew out of a context that was a norm; whereas now in our era, the norm has become transformed by a constellation of utopian impulses, some dastardly (e.g., the Soviet Union or Red China or Communist Cuba), some starry-eyed with good intentions paving the proverbial road to hell — the hell, in this case, of a protracted destabilization of our civilization by Mohammedan hordes (many of whom are disguised as “moderates” and fool even many in the Counter-Jihad into thinking they ought to be treated as harmless).
Angemon says
Fessitude posted:
“and fool even many in the Counter-Jihad into thinking they ought to be treated as harmless”
Citation needed. Oh, wait, it’s you voeg- you’re probably talking about people in the CJ movement who believe in things like “due process”, “law of the land” and “innocent until proven guilty” instead of “guilty until proven innocent and if we can’t prove you’re guilty we can at least ‘reverse engineer’ a story explaining the lack of damning evidence, therefore guilty as charged”.
Fessitude says
P.S.: My comment of April 17, 2016 at 1:52 pm should be supplemented by another comment I wrote on another thread, which fleshes out my argument even more:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/04/cover-up-in-halifax-parents-confirm-reports-media-retracted-muslim-migrants-did-brutalize-their-children/comment-page-1#comment-1418358
gravenimage says
TheOldOligarch wrote:
Of course i didn’t answer your question. Do you really think I’m going to write an essay on my ideal social order at the behest of some screeching, hysterical woman?
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To describe the very erudite Dumbledore’s Army when she asks for clarification of TheOldOligarch’s position as a “screeching, hysterical woman” is simply grotesque, and exposes the depth of this misogynist’s virulent hatred of all women.
The Other Jim wrote:
Old Oiigarch, your commentary is so true. The sad bit is that so many, even here at Jihad Watch don’t understand the devastation caused by Feminism.
Black Pigeon Speaks commentary sums up the crisis the West faces in Why Women Destroy Nations’
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It is not just feminists, but *all women* whom “The Other Jim” hates, as well.
As I have noted before, both of these troglodytes should feel right at home under Islam.
Carolyn says
Dumbledore—May I join your army?
gravenimage says
Carolyn, Dumbledore’s Army’s user name comes from the Harry Potter books. Anyone who stands against evil is free–and welcome!–to join.
And DDA is one of the best posters here.
linnte says
Agree Graven. What surprises me is, you and DDA are women. Hahaha! Such intelligent people! Proud to know you.
Champ says
“And DDA is one of the best posters here.”
Indeed! So are you, Graven!
linnte says
You Champ, Graven, Susan, DDA, Mortimer, Dijjal, the list goes on of excellent minds here, especially Robert Spencer!!!
gravenimage says
🙂
Champ says
Thank you, dear Linnte! xo
gravenimage says
The Old Oligarch has expressed his hatred for women here before.
Dean says
Man’s mind is the reason he is top of the food chain on this planet and the most effective tool between us is the power of manipulation. Both of those are gender neutral. The men and women who get hung up on natural physical differences between men and women and confuse those differences with superiority/inferiority or dominance and submission are 2 sides of the same coin and should quickly be dismissed and are not worth an argument. By 1970 I knew that the fem movement harpies believed that feminine feelings were superior to reason and therefore their real goals were superiority and dominance, not equality which they already had. And the traditional sex roles were a figment of their imaginations just like any males that dream of them. Marriage is a partnership based on each person using their specific talent for mutual prosperity and civilized society offers many variations while the Islamic savages and others insist on only one.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Dean. Excellent post.
TheOldOligarch says
Lies.
gravenimage says
Is anyone surprised that TheOldOligarch scoffs at the idea that it is man’s mind that makes him unique?
Dean says
Man is the most dangerous and dominant animal walking the face of the earth, but not because of his physical strength. If he depended on his strength and physical tools, we would be far down the food chain. Instead we are the top of the food chain and it is all because of our brains. Through our minds we have conquered the elements and restructured what the earth has to suit our purposes and insure our survival. And yet some of the physically weakest of humans have conquered the mightiest humans by means of the intellect combined through manipulative skills that are gender neutral. The overriding difference between man and beast is the mind, otherwise we pale in physical comparison.
Western Canadian says
“For a great many people, certainly the elites but I believe a scary number of ordinary folk as well, the restoration of traditional sex roles, and the acknowledgement that sexual equality is a stupid idea (since men and women are not equal) will be simply too high a price to pay for the trifling prize of saving Western civilization.”
I would try to point out the utter stupidity, vicious woman hatred, and sickeningly level of self-righteousness that can only be achieved by an utter, total and complete @sshole like you, but why bother, Your stupidity renders any effort to be a waste of time.
TheOldOligarch says
Like I said, scary numbers.
Western Canadian says
No, you pitiable, weak and fearful of strong women failure as a man, as I said:
I would try to point out the utter stupidity, vicious woman hatred, and sickeningly level of self-righteousness that can only be achieved by an utter, total and complete @sshole like you, but why bother, Your stupidity renders any effort to be a waste of time.
Whenever I read or heard the type of pathetic and whinpish drivel that losers like you post, I think of two of my current students in martial arts. Both of them, very female.
The first, a highly educated professional, of a social and employment status ever beyond the reach of your ilk. also a happily married mother of 3 beautiful and challenging children. The second, a single, and very devout Christian, also educated vastly above your pathetic level, and again massively above your level of accomplishment in any area. These two, and the dedication they have demonstrated in their training, could easily reduce your pathetic blather to a state that only a dung heap would be a fitting repository for it… and for physical prowess… They could both, without working up a sweat, reduce you to the pathetic, beaten and mangled beyond human recognition that a piece of slop like you, has been, is, and will always be.
You will find no traction for your muslim friendly hatred of women here.
gravenimage says
TheOldOligarch should feel right at home in Islam with his misogyny/
Charli Main says
Possibly a closet Muslim, batting for Mohammed ???
Men have authority over women because God has made one superior to the other. Koran 4.34
Women are your fields ( possessions). Go into your fields whence you please. Koran 2.223
Carolyne says
There are similar passages in the Christian bible. In fact, I once walked out in the middle of a service at St. Paul’s in London when the minister started preaching about how St. Paul (Not the church, but the man) said “Women should keep silent in church.” The inference being that a man could later explain to her what was said and what it meant.
The West, for the most part, has evolved and no longer practices such drivel, as there are women pastors in Protestant denominations as well as most other fields. And they serve equally well. But some of the comments on this subject make me wonder if these men who insist on feeling superior are closet Muslims.
I do agree that for the most part, men are physically stronger than women because of the advantage of the testosterone they have had all their lives, but that is the only difference in ability. On the other hand, men cannot bear children. Of course, a women trained in the martial arts could likely wipe out any of the misogynists who have proclaimed their superiority nonsense here.
Custos Custodum says
WC, TOO has made a point which you took the trouble to quote.
If – as your ad hominem invective appears to show – you disagree with his point, perhaps you can state succinctly where exactly he is wrong. Which assumptions, which conclusions, do you disagree with?
Are you saying there has been no decline in chivalrous spirit in Western societies, e.g. since the 1950s? Or perhaps your argument is that the former chivalry was merely a guise to oppress women (and perhaps others – racial minorities, gays, etc.)?
Muslim rapists know exactly where they stand on all these issues. Do we in the West?
Have the courage to state your case.
TheOldOligarch says
Expecting courage from a retarded internet-tough guy really seems like an exercise in futility, my friend.
Western Canadian says
Are you joking, or are you the idiot that your ego inflated, overblown verbiage strongly indicates that you are?? Really, most people of even below average and especially those of greater than average intelligence use words to communicate, Someone like you, who tries to hide your wandering thoughts and incoherence by trying to impress people, usually only fails to impress as well as fails to communicate.
MY, repeat, MY ad hom invective? The quote of his drivel was itself an ad hominem attack, on slightly more than half of the members of the human species…. if you think that he made a ‘point’ then you are obviously from another planet, one where women are considered to have as much value as any other form of cattle……
I would suggest you work up the courage to remove your head from its place of eternal comfort (your nether regions), and actually READ posts before proving your status as a fool by running off at the mouth in response.
The senile woman hating jerk did not mention much of anything to respond to, and so I merely moved his garbage to the appropriate bin.
As for the senile woman hating jerks comments re: me… Hey, @ss Wipe!! Since your response to DDA was to run from her like a cowardly piece of garbage, not answering her except like a temper tantrum throwing sub-child, your comment on ‘courage’ is absolutely hilarious! An intelligent and strong woman slaps you down, and slaps you down hard, and you run home to your mommy, whining about how the ‘big girls’ picked on you and hurt your feelings!! Oh BOO HOO HOO!! Change your feces laden and urine soaked pants, and grow up.
And again, with your ignorant and stupid hatred of women…. you would make one hell of a muslim.
Custos Custodum says
Thank you, WC. Let the record reflect that you have responded to the very best of your abilities.
Western Canadian says
@ Cus Cus:
No, let the record show that you got the response that your pompous and arrogant windbaggery deserved. Learn to read and understand other peoples posts, before dropping one of your rants.
gravenimage says
Great post, Western Canadian.
Indiovejo says
I understand that we are all equal under the law, so what’s your problem?
Fessitude says
Men and women are equal = there’s no difference between men and women = there are no “men and women” there are only the Eloi People with Barbie doll lack of genitalia = the various elusive, complex, subtle differences we still do experience are delusions and reinforcers of the ancien régime that need to be eliminated by the Revolution through social engineering, in the Brave New World of Walden 2; etc., etc., cough, cough, bow head, curtain falls…
Rob Porter says
TheOldOligarch, You’ve got it all wrong. This is not the time for men to “be willing to lay down their lives for the cause, …, it’s men who have to do this”, no now is the time for Western men to be wiling to fight and take the live of these blood Muslim bastards who are attacking Western women and girls. Giving your life is useless if we are to fight them, let this Muslim scum ‘give their lives’ for behaving like the trash they are.
freewoman says
Restoring the family would be a better way to put it. Parents staying together and raising their kids with good character.
Yokel says
this is a result of the intentional destruction of
traditional sex roles inWestern societiesLadies and gentlemen, please stop fratching about tradional sex roles and realise that this is just about the destructions of Western society. Our governments are complicit in, nay promoting, this destruction for the benefit of some hidden hand (that has clearly promised them something by way of compensation later).
linnte says
Thank you Yokel! Our priority is deislamisation of the West!
TheOldOligarch says
Good luck with that as the native populations atrophy and die off.
Western Canadian says
Only in your ignorance based fantasy….
linnte says
WC, I believe you are TRYING to piss me off. That’s OK. Hahahahaha! It’s not working. And if you don’t want to stop the Islamisation of the West, the only assumption is you WANT to see it happen. I know how strong America is and how strong Jesus is. And I don’t believe his plans for us is total destruction, contrary to your hopes. I believe Jesus wants to see his people, the Muslims, brought to Salvation, as much as he wanted ME to be saved. So I will pray you get your wish, but not for me and mine, because I BELIEVE!
Western Canadian says
That comment was offered to the old jerk, not you.
linnte says
Oh! Well sorry then. I get mixed up by who is talking to who and I kinda wondered why you would say that. Guess I should have asked what you meant before jumping down your throat.
gravenimage says
There is also staunch Anti-Jihadist Walid Shoebat, now a devout Christian:
http://shoebat.com/shoebat-foundation/who-is-walid/
linnte says
And me too! 🙂
DP111 says
“It is the primary right of men to die and kill for the land they live in, and to punish with exceptional severity all members of their own race who have warmed their hands at the invader’s “It is the primary right of men to die and kill for the land they live in, and to punish with exceptional severity all members of their own race who have warmed their hands at the invader’s hearth.”
(Winston Churchill)
Kepha says
OldOligarch:
I am no friend of the genderbenders or of the feminists. If you mean by “Men and women are not equal” that they are not interchangeable, we’re on the same page. But surely you are not against equal pay for equal work? Or that a woman’s testimony in court has the same weight as a man’s? Or that we should drop the “and thy mother” from the Fifth Commandment?
Dean says
Why do any of you play into the leftists’ canard of unequal pay for equal work. The problem doesn’t exist. It is a statistical gimmick, twisted into a lie and used by anti-capitalists to attack a system that does not discriminate. Goggle the issue and you’ll find those that dispute it but conclude that there is about 5% difference, and that is misinformed. Studies have shown that based on certain gender preferences, the average full-time man works about 42 hours a week and the average FT woman about 38, but those studies have been left out of those objective studies.
TheOldOligarch says
The very fact that you ask me any of that, again, proves how successful the feminist propaganda campaign has been. It’s impossible to state a clear, obvious, and undeniable biological fact, like ”men and women are not equal”, without people automatically assuming that what you mean is ”women are worthless and should be enslaved”.
You might have noticed the constant references to the fact that the majority of the migrants swarming into Europe are ”combat age males”. Why is this constantly brought up? Why is it considered so important? The answer is because it is understood by those pointing that out that for the implied purposes (armed conflict in Europe to determine whether Sharia will supplant the native culture), that is the only demographic that matters. It doesn’t matter how many pensioners or women we have, it’s young males who will decide that question.
Really, I don’t care what any of the deluded fools on here think; 100 men could conquer an entire world of women. If you don’t like that fact, too bad. This article was bemoaning the death of courage and chivalry in western Europe. My point was that you cannot pick and choose. Restoring those things means restoring men and women to their traditional roles, and some people will simply be unwilling to do that even in the face of conquest by barbarian hordes.
Western Canadian says
“Really, I don’t care what any of the deluded fools on here think; 100 men could conquer an entire world of women. If you don’t like that fact, too bad. This article was bemoaning the death of courage and chivalry in western Europe. My point was that you cannot pick and choose. Restoring those things means restoring men and women to their traditional roles, and some people will simply be unwilling to do that even in the face of conquest by barbarian hordes.”
The only deluded fools here, are you and your sock puppets or boot lickers. Your pathetic and ignorance based fantasy world of a previous state where women were in the kitchen or nursery and no where else, is so far from any historical fact about the west, that again, you seem to have the same woman hating and ignorant attitudes towards women, as those possessed by the average knuckle dragging muslim.
Not much over a century ago, 90% of the workforce was in farming….. and while the women ALSO did most of the food prep, canning and any other type of preserving, they were also in the fields, working along side the men. Feel free to lie about this, it is all you have. You have no doubt ignored true stories of a woman working beside the men, laying down in the field to give birth, and then carrying on with her work. But that is you…… A supremely ignorant, bigoted and hate filled loon, who probably has kept the only women in his life chained up in a sub-basement, lest they manage to escape to freedom, and the company of decent men. During battles in the ‘old west’, women were just as likely to pick up a rifle to defend their families, as any man, but feel free to lie about that too… and you will. Farm life is hard today, and was very, very hard a century ago. And women were there, right beside the men, carrying a work load that a wuss and lout like you, would faint at even the mere thought of….. Women worked in factories and were employed outside the home in various fields, for centuries. But you will ignore and lie about that, along with your other lies. You really are sick, and completely pathetic…. as your ‘name’ proves, but you are so poorly educated, you have no idea why that proves you to be an ignorant fool….
As for 100 men defeating a world of women, no, that is not a fact. Frankly, 100 women with rifles could kill your 100 women hating louts, and not even work up a sweat doing it….. You obviously have no military background, either in training or study, and should really learn to keep your mouth firmly closed.
The way you ran from DDA, your pants reeking of the smell of feces and urine, is all the proof one needs that you are a complete, utter, pathetic and worthless blow hard.
As well as an ignorant buffoon.
linnte says
Once again, sorry for being so mean to you WC. I have this to say to the Old Olifart- it is the lioness that catches the prey and brings it to the King of lions.
gravenimage says
…will people be willing to sacrifice Feminism, and just accept that civilization is a male project, which only men can build, maintain, or defend?
…For a great many people, certainly the elites but I believe a scary number of ordinary folk as well, the restoration of traditional sex roles, and the acknowledgement that sexual equality is a stupid idea (since men and women are not equal)…
………………..
Sounds like TheOldOligarch and The Other Jim will be perfectly happy when misogynist Islam take over…
linnte says
I find these two more offensive than Sham the liar. And they think Trump will “restore” what they desire. I say let’s gather donations so we can fly them to Somalia where they will fit in perfectly.
gravenimage says
Hi linnte!
linnte says
Hi Graven! I am having fun learning about Jesus! Hahahaha! My sons mother in law has a book for me to read about the End Time, written by Hal Lindsey. Have you ever heard of him?
gravenimage says
Hal Lindsey wrote the famous book “The Late Great Planet Earth” way back in 1970–I think he may have jumped the gun just a tad.
But the great thing is reading widely–you can decide what speaks to you personally, and what may not.
Have fun!
linnte says
That’s the book! I will enjoy it I am sure.
Joey Rodriguez says
The problem of muslim rapists is much more widespread than most people have even the foggiest notion of –
mortimer says
JR wrote: “The problem of muslim rapists is much more widespread than most people have even the foggiest notion of ”
Strongly agree. Less than half Muslim rapes may be reported because the women are afraid. I am aware of Muslim rapes that occurred near my community. Many of them are thugs who self-identify as jihadists…they believe that their rapes are jihad.
dumbledoresarmy says
I see the article seems to view all of western Europe as utterly lost.
In some ways articles like this strike me as dangerously close to becoming an exercise in feeding the Dementors, because they don’t offer the smallest word of encouragement (and one may note, by the way, a propos the C S Lewis quote, that surely courage is a virtue as much proper to good women as to good men – was Corrie ten Boom not courageous – was Irene Sendler not courageous? or Sophie Scholl?; ALL the traditional virtues – fortitude, temperance, justice, prudence, faith, hope and charity – are not ‘gender-specific’, neither men nor women *as such*, qua male or female, have a monopoly on any of them; rather, the fully mature human being, male *or* female, should exhibit all seven.)
I would note that, in some of the reports on the rapes in Cologne, there was reference to German men who *did* try to put up a fight for their female companions… or just for a distressed stranger. but they were 1/ taken utterly by surprise (because NOTHING like that had ever happened before when they went out with wife, girlfriend and/ or kids to attend a NYE celebration, and so, naturally they would not be armed or expecting to have to fight) and 2/ OUTNUMBERED something like 100 to one. And they *still* tried… and got beaten to a pulp, not because of being weak or ‘effeminate’ but simply because when you are unarmed (because you were heading out to a New Years’ Eve party in your own city!) and outnumbered 100 to one, you don’t stand a chance (even martial arts experts have pointed this out). Shouldn’t we be honouring those men who *did* put up a fight even so? They existed. And they are the more remarkable because of the circumstances – unarmed, taken by surprise – ambushed and mobbed.
Moreover: *are* there no honourabl, decent men left in Europe??
But in the comments thread, we have a scathing video made by Gavin Boby, a British man.
But: was the ordinary blokes of the EDL who protested about the Muslim rapes of British girls – and who *also* formed, originally, because they were so enraged by the contempt shown by Muslim mobsters for the bodies of British soldiers killed in Afghanistan.
I will note, in connection with the many accounts of the Muslim rape gangs in Britain, that there *were* fathers and other kinsmen of abused girls who DID try to rescue and speak up for their female kin. That they were officially *crushed* does not obviate the fact that they *exist* and they *tried*. Ordinary working-class and lower-middle-class blokes, doing their best. Persons commenting on affairs in Europe shouldn’t write off people like this; they should *seek them out* and try to find ways to *encourage* them and help them to organise, instead of just assuming there are too few of them to matter in the grand scheme of things.
There is Pat Condell, and there is Paul Weston, and there is PEGIDA UK, and “Liberty Great Britain”.
In the Netherlands there is Geert Wilders, and the many many Dutch voters, male and female, who are supporting him and making his ‘party for Freedom’ into a force to be reckoned with.
In Denmark there is the elder, Lars Hedegaard, and the young Niccolai Sennels…and besides writing intelligent and hard-hitting books and articles about mohammedan misogyny and aggressiveness, Sennels has gone off and joined the Danish Home Guard, acquiring formal military training. They’re not the only ones… there are enough Islamoresisters in Denmark to produce the Danish People’s Party and make it significant in the political landscape.
And all over Europe, not getting much publicity, are the apostates from Islam, like Mona Walters (in Sweden! she left islam, converted to Christianity, in supposedly post-Christian dead-and-buried Sweden!), and Hannah Shah (who converted to Christianity in a *church*, in the supposedly post-Christian UK, where Christianity is supposed to be – if one were to believe so many who post on this forum – dead, dead, dead and unable to convert anybody), and Magdi Cristiano Allam (he decided to leave the Catholic organisation, but I understand he has not abandoned *Christ* in whom he placed his faith when he was baptised by Benedict XVI).
I would urge all members of the Resistance to go and read G K Chesterton: his poem “The Ballad of the White Horse”, and his book “The Everlasting Man” (paying particular attention to the chapters entitled “The War of the Gods and the Demons” and “The Five Deaths of the Faith”),
http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks01/0100311.txt
and his eerily prescient novel, “The Flying Inn” [1915]. And if Christian, learn by heart his poem, “O God of Earth and Altar”; in Britain, at least, it should be the marching-song of the protesters against Islamisation.
dsinc says
Good one DDA, and Tommy Robinson, who the British government keep throwing in jail hoping that the Muslim inmates will bump him off and get rid of a thorn in their side.
dumbledoresarmy says
re Tommy there’s just been a bit of good news.
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/64114
Thursday, 14 April 2016
Tommy Robinson Walks Free From Court, Judge Slams Police Persecution
linnte says
DDA, you just made my day! Thank you for the excellent news. I just KNEW if he went to prison again, he’d be a dead man. Praise God!
revereridesagain says
That is GREAT news. They were just waiting for this chance to finish Tommy off, but they got a REAL judge and he was having none of it!
Here’s coverage from Gates of Vienna.
http://gatesofvienna.net/2016/04/tommy-robinson-case-dismissed/
Today is the third anniversary of the Boston Marathon Bombing Marathon, Perpetrated by Muslims. At least now we also have something to celebrate today.
gravenimage says
Great posts, DDA.
Ralph Sidway says
Thanks for the stirring reminder, DDA, that there is indeed a remnant and a resistance! I believe it was Pope Benedict XVI who posited that “The Church will become small and will have to start afresh…” Though we seem to be going through a period of frightful pruning, there are indeed strong examples of faith, conversion, truth, life and light. We certainly must be mindful of these and imitate/share their witness. I do try to do more of that on my personal blog, http://facingislam.org. BTW, I picked up The Flying Inn recently, and have added the other Chesterton titles to my list. Appreciate the zeal — Ralph
gravenimage says
Thanks for the article and you comments, Mr. Sidway.
Shmooviyet says
@DDA; Thanks for the Chesterton recommendations.
Yokel says
I see the article seems to view all of western Europe as utterly lost.
If one looks at Western European governments then it is hopelessly lost. Our rulers are Quislings at best, more likely outright traitors. The people on the other hand are mostly aware of what is going on.
Kepha says
Yes, a good one. Rather than Chesterton, I’m going to meditate of Psalm 68; and perhaps learn to sing it in one of the old Scots metrical forms.
gravenimage says
Excellent post, DDA.
dumbledoresarmy says
Re the supposed pusillanimity of emasculated European men… I quote the article itself, which mentions three men who did speak out. That officialdom crushed them does not, to repeat, obviate the fact that they *exist* and that they spoke up. Their bravery should be honoured.
“Dutchmen who tweet their opposition to the construction of “refugee” centers in their towns receive visits from police who threaten them with charges of sedition.
“A Belgian who spoke out about Muslim children in the city’s schools cheering the recent Brussels attacks welcomed three policemen to his door.
“And a London man who tweeted about his decision to confront a Muslim over her views on the Brussels attacks was arrested, had his home raided, and all his computer equipment seized. ”
I’d like to know their names. These guys were bucking the trend. Why is the author of the article not summoning readers to honour them and *pray* for them??? And calling for prayer for *more* such – and, btw, more *women* too are needed, to speak up; the Mothers’ Union in the UK could mobilise a great surge of ‘Granny Power’ on behalf of the abused girls, to challenge and shame every level of government, were they but to ‘wake up’ sufficiently.
Charli Main says
@ DDA
in Britainistan its ok to call
Australians an Aussie
British a Brit
Americans a Yank—-et al
But call a Pakistani a Paki, expect to get arrested for racist abuse by our ever vigilant police whose entire raison d´etre appears to be geared to stamping out Islamophobia.
Kepha says
They have my prayers–and so do their countries. I freely admit that spiritually speaking, I owe much to people from the Low Countries and the British Isles.
I also believe that the whole of the Anglosphere could do with a lot more scrutiny of the judicial bench.
Western Canadian says
“I also believe that the whole of the Anglosphere could do with a lot more scrutiny of the judicial bench.”
TOTAL AND ABSOLUTE AGREEMENT!!! I have run a ‘sport’ related organization for several decades, martial arts being the subject taught. I enjoy it immensely, and am very rarely even annoyed by those who select me to be the instructor who selects them to teach… There is the occasional exception to that, and the very first person I ever threw out…
Was a provincial court judge. His ego would over fill the grand canyon, thousands of times… He was an ignorant, bigoted (blacks and women), stupid, drunken, loud mouthed jerk. Beyond ignorant of the history of law in the west, incapable of logical thought or basic reasoning, He routinely ruled from his roost, based entirely on his own ignorance and prejudice… sickening beyond words. And he has retired, to a yearly pension in the six figure range….
We don’t call it a criminal justice system, without reason.
linnte says
I have a retired Oregon Judge living two houses away from me. He is the absolute most self-centered, socially inept human being I have ever met! And he literally talks down his nose to common people like me. Two years ago, a giant oak tree fell into my back yard. Huge tree. I had offered it to the judge for his new Smoked meat restaurant he started here. A year later he came to look at the tree but my back yard was overgrown with blackberry bushes so it would have meant cutting them back to get to the tree. He declined my offer, so I gave the tree to a friend who needed the tree for income. My friend cut back the blackberries and cut up the tree, splitting the wood and left a cord in a pile to retrieve later. That Judge had the audacity to drive into my back yard and started loading up the pile left there. When I confronted him he said, “but you said I could have the wood”!!!! I made him unload his truck, or I would call the police. He did. Amazing ARROGANCE!
billybob says
My blog on the Monk Debate, in which I transcribed the opening speech of Louise Arbour so that I might rebutt it point by point… http://ichabodcrain.blogspot.ca/2016/04/cultural-marxism-in-canada.html
Fessitude says
Thanks; I wanted to look more into that Mark Steyn debate with the self-hating Jews Louise Arbour and Simon Schama who smugly and self-righteously preened their lofty defense of Muslims from Bigotry and Racism in the face of Mark Steyn speaking Truth to Pusillaniminity in Power.
Rosie says
As a woman, this is one of my biggest fears — that when the s**t hits the fan a sufficient number of Western men will decide that total domination of women isn’t so bad after all. And yes, the left is as bad as the right. We have a scandal over sexual harassment and harassers being protected rather than victims at UC Berkeley, about as liberal a place as one can find. We have women bloggers and gamers being threatened with rape and murder. We still haven’t passed the Equal Rights Amendment and women in the US still earn 69 cents for every dollar men earn. Yes we are a world away from Muslim countries, but we are still a long way from equality. But just like African Americans only got slavery abolished and the civil rights act passed when a substantial number of white people supported their struggle (and no I am not denigrating their incredible courage and determination; I am just making the point that the oppressed can rarely liberate themselves without help); women won’t get to full equality or even keep the rights we have now without male support. This article gives me both hope that there are men who will stand up for women and fear that there won’t be enough of them.
mortimer says
Rosie,
The message sent out by Feminists is that there is no Muslim rape problem, so why do women need to be protected? They are giving Muslim males a free pass and a cloak of anonymity.
The Feminists are shield the Muslim rapists from the police. They have made white males to be the enemy to be destroyed and the Muslim males the means of destroying them.
Dean says
The women’s liberation movement just like the all of the social justice movements is based on sacrificing individual rights and not preserving equal rights. Just like the popular statistical lie called a wage gap, every movement inconsistent with the American philosophy of equal rights for all regardless of identity is based on lies. Just because one lives consistently with the facts of nature that endowed men and women differently is not a cause to claim inferiority or oppression. Real men accept the responsibility of protecting women as a rational survival choice and not based on some inherent feeling of superiority. When natural selection is attacked, society breaks down and the result is the return of savagery. Just because the Arabs have codified tribal customs of subordinating women under the banner of religion, it is not a reason to fail to make the distinction of effective western family roles that are inseparable from western cultural superiority.
Enrico says
No Muslim or rapist touches you, if you are under my protection.
D says
Rape isn’t the woman’s fault, it never is. When I hear a Muslim say, “women must cover themselves because they are to tempting” I hear “women must cover themselves because we are weak and sinful.” Sin isn’t feeling temptation, sin is succumbing to temptation.
linnte says
D, yes you are right. Muslims live a basakwards life!
Dean says
The tribal savages that love death more than life meet the neo-westerners that worship at the altar of feelings and fear micro-aggressions that hurt their feeling, so they are willing to serve up anyone so long as they can be last on the list for the savage. This radical cultural departure from traditional American values where women created homes in the wilderness and had the babies with little help is also infecting the homeland, They were cherished and considered superior and not subordinate to men and therefore those special treasures along with the children were protected by the man’s life because his wellbeing depended on it. Western society was so successful conquering the wilderness specifically because of this rational sense for survival. Progressive relativism corrupts the natural senses and is busy at work here.
Enrico says
Many women do want total war against Islam, deportation of all Muslims, because they want to protect themselves from harm and humiliation, but we need strong men eager to take up arms against our enemies (the Left and Islam). To protect our people, our prosperity.
Honour and the Catholic Faith, Love of the True God, is unfortunatly nearly dissolved in the hearts of many Europeans. Because if Europeans had honour they would notice and resist their humiliation and destruction
Personally, I want to protect my humanity, my Traditional Catholic Faith, my fellow countrymen, European prosperity and honour against the Left and Islam.
I am from Holland
linnte says
Bless your heart Enrico! We are praying for ALL of Europe!
Gamal says
I wonder how much of this is the result of Muslim Immigrants being hired to positions of power. How many decisions are being made by them?
steve says
‘ISLAMIC CHIVALRY’ is the most profound oxymoron, The Muslim ‘man’s’ chivalrous ethos also insists that women and children go first,……’ as ‘suicide bombers’
Shmooviyet says
@Steve: Agreed– “ISLAMIC CHIVALRY’ can as well be best illustrated by the “honour” murders of female relatives in order to salvage a family name and standing in ‘the community’ ( honor of the men, naturally: more honestly, an ALLEVIATION for the MAN’S HUMILIATION by the dishonourable woman.)
Dave says
Some people just know how to write, this line is a keeper… “Morally, the Liberals and ruling class are no less guilty for covering up Europe’s Muslim mass rape crimes than the Roman Catholic Church was for covering up widespread sexual abuse of children by priests. “
revereridesagain says
Thank you to DDA and all those who have upheld our rights as women to also defend ourselves, not merely wait around for those Big Strong Dominant Men to do it. ALL females have the right to defend themselves, boys, even ones who don’t happen to “belong” to you or some other man at the moment. At the rate things are going, you will have your hands full just defending yourselves. (And your sons will need protection from rapists as surely as your daughters.)
Tell our “leaders” to take the restrictions off our right to buy weapons and arm ourselves. Encourage self-defense training. Stop telling women — and everyone else — that most Muslims are “moderate” and “peaceful” and just want to practice their male-dominant ideology according to their women-enslaving Sharia law. Tell the warped “femiinists” of today with their claim that denunciation of Islam is “racist” to put up and move to Afghanistan or shut the hell up. And liberate us from the fear that any act of standing up against a Muslim will result in our ruin by means of frivilous “Islamophobia” lawsuits. Put the fear of reperucussions back onto the Muslim hijrah aggressors, where it belongs.
Guy Jones says
There are two notions at work in the Left’s criticism of Steyn and Farage. The first is intellectual dishonesty — the ignoring of, and, the dismissal of, facts deemed inconvenient to the promotion of and the perpetuation of cherished Lefist narratives, in this case, a multiculturalist kumbaya narrative that promotes the ideology of “Submission” as being benign and totally compatible with secular democratic values in the west.
The second notion is the complete self-emasculation of the most primal notions of cultural self-preservation by western states and societies, which notion has been totally eviscerated by some sort of stupefied, collective suicidal mentality in the face of the spread of the fascist, supremacist ideology of “Submission” and its efforts to subvert and destroy western secular democracies.
sham says
ISLAM THE RELIGION PROHIBITED ALL TYPES OF ILLEGAL SEXUAL RELATION ,ADULTERY,RAPE,HOMO,BY SEXUAL,ANIMAL SEX,ETC……………….
24: 19. Verily, those who like that (the crime of) illegal sexual intercourse should be propagated among those who believe, they will have a painful torment in this world and in the Hereafter. And Allâh knows and you know not.
4:16 And the two persons (man and woman) among you who commit illegal sexual intercourse, punish them both. And if they repent (promise Allâh that they will never repeat, i.e. commit illegal sexual intercourse and other similar sins) and do righteous good deeds, leave them alone. Surely, Allâh is Ever the One Who accepts repentance, (and He is) Most Merciful.
5:5. ………….not committing illegal sexual intercourse, nor taking them as girl-friends. And whosoever disbelieves in the Oneness of Allâh and in all the other Articles of Faith [i.e. His (Allâh’s), Angels, His Holy Books, His Messengers, the Day of Resurrection and Al¬Qadar (Divine Preordainments)], then fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be among the losers.
17: 32. And come not near to the unlawful sexual intercourse. Verily, it is a Fâhishah [i.e. anything that transgresses its limits (a great sin)], and an evil way (that leads one to Hell unless Allâh forgives him).
70: 29. And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts from illegal sexual acts) .
30. Except with their wives and the (women slaves and captives) whom their right hands possess, for (then) they are not to be blamed,
31. But whosoever seeks beyond that, then it is those who are trespassers.
23: 1. Successful indeed are the believers.
3. And those who turn away from Al-Laghw (dirty, false, evil vain talk, falsehood, and all that Allâh has forbidden).
5. And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts, from illegal sexual acts)
6. Except from their wives or (the captives and slaves) that their right hands possess, for then, they are free from blame;
7. But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors;
24: 3. The adulterer marries not but an adulteress or a Mushrikah and the adulteress none marries her except an adulterer or a Muskrik [and that means that the man who agrees to marry (have a sexual relation with) a Mushrikah (female polytheist, pagan or idolatress) or a prostitute, then surely he is either an adulterer, or a Mushrik (polytheist, pagan or idolater, etc.) And the woman who agrees to marry (have a sexual relation with) a Mushrik (polytheist, pagan or idolater) or an adulterer, then she is either a prostitute or a Mushrikah (female polytheist, pagan, or idolatress, etc.)]. Such a thing is forbidden to the believers (of Islâmic Monotheism).
24: 26. Bad statements are for bad people (or bad women for bad men) and bad people for bad statements (or bad men for bad women). Good statements are for good people (or good women for good men) and good people for good statements (or good men for good women), such (good people) are innocent of (each and every) bad statement which they say, for them is Forgiveness, and Rizqun Karîm (generous provision i.e.Paradise).
24: 21. O you who believe! Follow not the footsteps of Shaitân (Satan). And whosoever follows the footsteps of Shaitân (Satan), then, verily he commands Al-Fahshâ’ [i.e. to commit indecency (illegal sexual intercourse, etc.)], and Al-Munkar [disbelief and polytheism (i.e. to do evil and wicked deeds; to speak or to do what is forbidden in Islâm, etc.)]………….
25: 68. And those who invoke not any other ilâh (god) along with Allâh, nor kill such life as Allâh has forbidden, except for just cause, nor commit illegal sexual intercourse and whoever does this shall receive the punishment.
60: 12. O Prophet! When believing women come to you to give you the Bai’â (pledge), that they will not associate anything in worship with Allâh, that they will not steal, that they will not commit illegal sexual intercourse, that they will not kill their children, that they will not utter slander, intentionally forging falsehood (i.e. by making illegal children belonging to their husbands), and that they will not disobey you in any Ma’rûf (Islâmic Monotheism and all that which Islâm ordains) then accept their Bai’â (pledge), and ask Allâh to forgive them, Verily, Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
16: 90. Verily, Allâh enjoins Al-Adl (i.e. justice and worshipping none but Allâh Alone – Islâmic Monotheism) and Al-Ihsân [i.e. to be patient in performing your duties to Allâh, totally for Allâh’s sake and in accordance with the Sunnah (legal ways) of the Prophet SAW in a perfect manner], and giving (help) to kith and kin (i.e. all that Allâh has ordered you to give them e.g., wealth, visiting, looking after them, or any other kind of help, etc.): and forbids Al-Fahshâ’ (i.e all evil deeds, e.g. illegal sexual acts, disobedience of parents, polytheism, to tell lies, to give false witness, to kill a life without right, etc.), and Al-Munkar (i.e all that is prohibited by Islâmic law: polytheism of every kind, disbelief and every kind of evil deeds, etc.), and Al-Baghy (i.e. all kinds of oppression), He admonishes you, that you may take heed.
6: 151. Say (O Muhammad SAW): “Come, I will recite what your Lord has prohibited you from: Join not anything in worship with Him; be good and dutiful to your parents; kill not your children because of poverty – We provide sustenance for you and for them; come not near to Al-Fawâhish (shameful sins, illegal sexual intercourse, etc.) whether committed openly or secretly, and kill not anyone whom Allâh has forbidden, except for a just cause (according to Islâmic law). This He has commanded you that you may understand.
42: 37. And those who avoid the greater sins, and Al-Fawâhish (illegal sexual intercourse, etc.), and when they are angry, they forgive
53: 32. Those who avoid great sins and Al-Fawâhish (illegal sexual intercourse, etc.) except the small faults, verily, your Lord is of vast forgiveness…………….
70: 29. And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts from illegal sexual acts) .
30. Except with their wives and the (women slaves and captives) whom their right hands possess, for (then) they are not to be blamed,
31. But whosoever seeks beyond that, then it is those who are trespassers.
60:12 O Prophet! When believing women come to you to give you the Bai’â (pledge), that they will not associate anything in worship with Allâh, that they will not steal, that they will not commit illegal sexual intercourse, that they will not kill their children, that they will not utter slander, intentionally forging falsehood (i.e. by making illegal children belonging to their husbands), and that they will not disobey you in any Ma’rûf (Islâmic Monotheism and all that which Islâm ordains) then accept their Bai’â (pledge), and ask Allâh to forgive them, Verily, Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
EVEN sinful to look, say sinful, self wishes & show private parts for temptation:
24: 30. Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.). That is purer for them. Verily, Allâh is All-Aware of what they do.
31. And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.)
33: 59. O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. Screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever Oft¬Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Stone death for adultery
24: 2. The woman and the man guilty of illegal sexual intercourse, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not pity withhold you in their case, in a punishment prescribed by Allâh, if you believe in Allâh and the Last Day. And let a party of the believers witness their punishment. (This punishment is for unmarried persons guilty of the above crime but if married persons commit it, the punishment is to stone them to death, according to Allâh’s Law).
rape-stone death
Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4366
Narrated Wa’il ibn Hujr:
When a woman went out in the time of the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) for prayer, a man attacked her and overpowered (raped) her.
She shouted and he went off, and when a man came by, she said: That (man) did such and such to me. And when a company of the Emigrants came by, she said: That man did such and such to me. They went and seized the man whom they thought had had intercourse with her and brought him to her.
She said: Yes, this is he. Then they brought him to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him).
When he (the Prophet) was about to pass sentence, the man who (actually) had assaulted her stood up and said: Apostle of Allah, I am the man who did it to her.
He (the Prophet) said to her: Go away, for Allah has forgiven you. But he told the man some good words (AbuDawud said: meaning the man who was seized), and of the man who had had intercourse with her, he said: Stone him to death.
Kepha says
Alright, Sham. LOTS of people–men and women, including Muslim men, saw the assaults against women in Koln and other places. Some even caught them on video for many more to see. When are the imams going to call for those perps to be stoned? I am not holding my breath.
gravenimage says
The meretricious sham wrote:
ISLAM THE RELIGION PROHIBITED ALL TYPES OF ILLEGAL SEXUAL RELATION ,ADULTERY,RAPE,HOMO,BY SEXUAL,ANIMAL SEX,ETC……………….
24: 19. Verily, those who like that (the crime of) illegal sexual intercourse should be propagated among those who believe, they will have a painful torment in this world and in the Hereafter. And Allâh knows and you know not.
…………………………
sham does not tell us that many forms of rape are perfectly Halal in Islam, including marital rape, the rape of child “wives”, and–most salient here–the rape of Infidels in the waging of Jihad against the Infidel, and their taking as sex slaves.
This was practiced by the “Prophet” himself, and there is no penalty in Islam for it.
More:
70: 29. And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts from illegal sexual acts) .
30. Except with their wives and the (women slaves and captives) whom their right hands possess, for (then) they are not to be blamed,
…………………………
And here, the witless sham *confirms* that a Muslim raping the sex slaves he has taken garners no blame in Islam.
More:
5. And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts, from illegal sexual acts)
6. Except from their wives or (the captives and slaves) that their right hands possess, for then, they are free from blame;
…………………………
And here he confirms this yet again.
More:
24: 21. O you who believe! Follow not the footsteps of Shaitân (Satan). And whosoever follows the footsteps of Shaitân (Satan), then, verily he commands Al-Fahshâ’ [i.e. to commit indecency (illegal sexual intercourse, etc.)], and Al-Munkar [disbelief and polytheism (i.e. to do evil and wicked deeds; to speak or to do what is forbidden in Islâm, etc.)]………….
…………………………
Note that raping Infidel women is *not* considered indecent in Islam, nor is it considered wicked and evil.
More:
70: 29. And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts from illegal sexual acts) .
30. Except with their wives and the (women slaves and captives) whom their right hands possess, for (then) they are not to be blamed,
…………………………
How extensive is sham’s OCD? This is now the *third time* he has confirmed the rape of sex slaves. Perhaps this is not OCD–perhaps he is just especially excited by the prospect.
More:
Stone death for adultery
24: 2. The woman and the man guilty of illegal sexual intercourse, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not pity withhold you in their case, in a punishment prescribed by Allâh, if you believe in Allâh and the Last Day. And let a party of the believers witness their punishment. (This punishment is for unmarried persons guilty of the above crime but if married persons commit it, the punishment is to stone them to death, according to Allâh’s Law).
…………………………
Why does the repulsive sham think civilized Infidels would be impressed by barbaric Muslims stoning their victims?
And as sham *himself* has confirmed, while this barbaric penalty holds for unmarried lovers, it *does not* apply to Muslims raping Infidel women and sex slaves.
This just makes clear how ugly Islam really is.
Custos Custodum says
Sham, please explain how all this fits in with the concept of mā malakat aymānukum (“what your right hands possess”, Arabic: ما ملكت أيمانکم).
Also, can filthy kuffar have rights under the Qur’an? Same as Muslims? More? Less? Please explain with citations.
Thank you.
Carolyne says
I regret, Sham, to inform you that you are wrong. I regret it because you obviously wasted much of your time writing the above.
In point of fact, Islam permits and encourages rape of captive women, makes it impossible for a raped woman to prosecute her rapist in court, Holds sex slaves and trades in them as we write here. A goat may be raped, but as Mohammed (May poop be upon him) the goat must then be killed and sold to a village not the rapist’s own. Infants may be raped and “Thighed” and old men may “Marry” young female children. That’s pedophilia, which Big Mo himself practiced (May Poop be Upon Him.) Raping young boys is permitted and they will even be furnished in Paradise for the pleasure of perverts (Which most Muslim men are.) Shall I mention the 72 eternal virgins you are promised? Don’t you see the humor in all of this?
You really are funny, though. You have no case.
gravenimage says
Nope–sham just cut-and-pasted the above. It took him no time at all. He’s posted most of this before.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Their holy prophit Moe (may Obama Keep him) was a rapist who
endorsed and encouraged rape right in his so-called ‘holy’ book.
DP111 says
“It is the primary right of men to die and kill for the land they live in, and to punish with exceptional severity all members of their own race who have warmed their hands at the invader’
(Winston Churchill)s
gravenimage says
I think one of the main points Ralph Sidway was making is that the civilized West works to *protect* the vulnerable–whereas Islam abuses and exploits the weak.
Rape and exploitation is *sacralized* in Islam.