How wonderful and broad-minded and forward thinking. Woelki reflects the thinking of Pope Francis, and the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, and all decent folk.
There’s just one problem: the Qur’an is specifically hostile to Christianity in a way that Christianity is not toward Islam. A sampling:
Christians have forgotten part of the divine revelations they received: “From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done.” — Qur’an 5:14
Jesus is not the Son of God and the Trinity a false doctrine: “O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not “Three” – Cease! (it is) better for you! – Allah is only One Allah. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.” — Qur’an 4:171
“It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.” — Qur’an 19:35
Those who believe that Jesus is God’s Son are under the curse of Allah: “The Jews call ‘Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! ” — Qur’an 9:30
Jesus was not crucified: “And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah’s messenger – they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain.” — Qur’an 4:157
Muslims must wage war against and subjugate Christians: “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” — Qur’an 9:29
What’s more, the statement that “Islam is in itself a political ideology that is not compatible with the constitution” is one that many Muslim leaders would proudly affirm. Woelki, and the Catholic hierarchy in general, are aiding and abetting the destruction of the free world.
Meanwhile, to say “Whoever says ‘yes’ to church towers must also say ‘yes’ to minarets” is just asinine. “Whoever says ‘yes’ to Merkel must also say ‘yes’ to Hitler.” “Whoever says ‘yes’ to peace must also say ‘yes’ to war.” “Whoever roots for the Yankees must also root for the Red Sox.” “Whoever roots for Manchester United must also root for Arsenal.” “Whoever roots for Real Madrid must also root for Barcelona.” “Whoever welcomes freedom must also welcome slavery.” “Whoever loves knowledge must also love ignorance.” “Whoever lives in Berlin must also live in Munich.” “Whoever says ‘yes’ to Muslims must also say ‘yes’ to Jews” — well, the illustrious Woelki probably wouldn’t go for that last one.
“Archbishop of Cologne Blasts Germany’s Anti-Islam Party: Churches ‘Same As Minarets,’” by Thomas D. Williams, Breitbart, April 27, 2016:
The Cardinal Archbishop of Cologne, Rainer Maria Woelki (pictured), has publicly criticized leaders of the Alternative for Germany (AfD) political party for their statements against Islam, insisting that “whoever says ‘yes’ to church towers must also say ‘yes’ to minarets.”
The Cardinal was reacting in particular to recent statements by AfD deputy leader Beatrix von Storch, who told the Frankfurter Allgemeine newspaper: “Islam is in itself a political ideology that is not compatible with the constitution.”
“We are in favor of a ban on minarets, on muezzins and a ban on full veils,” said von Storch, who is also a member of the European Parliament.
In his videotaped response, Cardinal Woelki suggested that all religions are equally well suited to German culture and law. “The religion of Islam is compatible with the German constitution just as Judaism or Christianity are,” he said.
“Anyone who denigrates Muslims as the AfD leadership does should realize that prayer rooms and mosques are equally protected by our constitution as our churches and chapels,” he said.
The AfD, a right-wing, populist, and Euro-skeptic party has steadily increased in popularity, especially among the many who believe that German Chancellor Angela Merkel has mishandled the migrant crisis.
Woelki, however, questioned whether “one really has to take the AfD seriously.”
“We do not need any such alternative for Germany,” he said. “The freedom of religion in our country is without alternative.”
“It is especially our painful German history,” he said. “Never again must people in this country be marginalized or persecuted for their race, ethnicity or religion.”
Another German prelate got into hot water in 2006 for suggesting that Islam might not be the religion of peace that many assume it to be.
In his now famous “Regensburg address,” Pope Benedict XVI commented on the historical relationship between Islam and violence.
In that talk, Benedict cited the 14th-century Byzantine emperor Manuel II Paleologus regarding the relationship between religion and violence. “Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached,” the quote read.
Pope Benedict XVI, a scholar who wrote extensively about religious freedom, insisted that all religions are not the same, and do not integrate equally well into western society.
In his 2009 encyclical letter Caritas in Veritate (Love in Truth), Benedict argued that not all religions contribute equally to the development of individuals and societies. Some, in fact, may obstruct it. “Religious freedom does not mean religious indifferentism,” he wrote, “nor does it imply that all religions are equal.”
Benedict also proposed that in order to safeguard society, political authorities must in some way distinguish among different religions. “Discernment is needed regarding the contribution of cultures and religions,” Benedict stated, “especially on the part of those who wield political power.”
Even before becoming pope, Joseph Ratzinger wrote on the differences between religions, noting that “anyone who sees in the religions of the world only reprehensible superstition is wrong” but also “anyone who wants only to give a positive evaluation of all religions… is equally wrong.”
In his own critical considerations of religions, Ratzinger wrote with brutal honesty, observing that there are “deviant, esoteric forms of religion on offer” as well as “pathological” forms of religion. He wrote of religions that are “obviously sick” and religions that are “destructive for man.” He asserted, moreover, that with the detachment of religion from reason, “pathological forms of religion are constantly increasing.”
In his critiques of Islam, Ratzinger suggested that the Muslim understanding of the human person and society, especially as regards the separation of church and state, is light years away from the Judeo-Christian worldview that undergirds western society.
Ratzinger wrote that the interplay “of society, politics, and religion has a completely different structure in Islam” than it does in the West. He went on to say that much of today’s discussion in the West regarding Islam “presupposes that all religions have basically the same structure, that they all fit into a democratic system with its regulations and the possibilities provided by these regulations.”
This would seem to be the position taken by Cardinal Woelki.
Yet this is not consistent with the facts, Ratzinger argued, but rather, it “contradicts the essence of Islam, which simply does not have the separation of the political and the religious sphere that Christianity has had from the beginning.”…

Guest says
If a religion allows rape and murder it is anything but equal. You can’t deny Islam breeds violence and mean it cardinal.
Budvarakbar says
It does not ‘breed’ violence — it preaches it as commandments — and sacraments
Ex-muslim says
To me, As an ex-muslim, this Archbishop of Cologne and members of ISIS or Al-Qaida are one and the same thing. Both are my mortal enemies!
Dean says
Even someone born and raised in a savage culture can be smart. Just look how much insight they had into the mush brains of some religionist when they clothed their codification of tribal customs and prejudices in the guise of stolen monotheism to offer it as a religion. For too many it is enough if it is called a religion and they think they can work with the “moderates” to gradually eliminate the mistaken juveniles. This is also a variation on the multicultural lie that all cultures are equal, hence all religions are equal and can’t therefore be judged. Actually Islam is not mono-theistic since operatively the god is Mo and Allah is just cover for his personal prejudices and superstitions.
mortimer says
Archbishop Woelki uses the prestige and authority of his position to convince people that he is an authority on Islam, but we must assume he is not. It would take over 10 years for him to read and master the Koran, the hadiths, the Sira, the canonical commentaries of the Islamic consensus, the manuals of Sharia law, Islamic history and the modern writings of jihad apologists. It is unbelievable that he read all those.
We must assume he is fraudulently and pompously promoting himself as an Islam-expert…in the same manner as the well-meaning, but preposterously inadequate Pope Francis. Neither man knows what he is talking about in the matter of Islam.
It wasn’t his daughter that got raped in Cologne or other places in Germany. He lacks compassion for the Germans.
Jay Boo says
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“uses the prestige and authority of his position to convince people that he is an authority on Islam, but we must assume he is not. It would take over 10 years for him to read and master the Koran, the hadiths, the Sira, the canonical commentaries of the Islamic consensus, the manuals of Sharia law, Islamic history and the modern writings of jihad apologists. It is unbelievable that he read all those. ”
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“We must assume he is fraudulently and pompously promoting himself as an Islam-expert…”
Hmmmm…
I like especially that last sentence Mortimer — ( HINT )
mortimer says
You need to do the reading and you’ll stop making your sophomoric comments, son.
KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM says
You need to slap his bottom, Morti.
Jay Boo says
mortimer
You need to show that my conclusion is wrong.
Since you cannot you attack me instead.
Rufolino says
Woelki is a shining example of why the Church in Europe is sinking like the Titanic in the face of the Islamic iceberg. Yes Christianity will survive the sinking. But no thanks to foolish people like Woelki.
Andy says
Woe___ a sinning example of why the EU-kirk is SINNING in the face of Jihadist-filth-bog. The true Church of which Jesus Christ the Saviour of repentant sinners will definitely survive because the True Creator God of the universe is behind the Genuine Church called the CHASTE-BRIDE of Christ. Here it is: Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, …and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell [Satanic power) shall not prevail against it.
Andra says
He not only lacks compassion, he is willing to give up the Christian believers at all.
Some time ago he even put out the lights of Cologne Cathedral because he wanted to demonize an anti-Islam-Demonstration. He rather makes friend with Milli Görüs an extrem Islamic council working in Germany.
On new Year´s eve the “refugees” threw pyrotechnic against the cathedral´s windows while there was a mass celebrated inside. Woelki didn´t critisize it at all.
He also does not dare to start a discussion with Christians who do not follow his demands. He´s just a traitor in a cardinal´s robe.
John Stefan says
The Archbishop, evidently, is following Roman Catholic doctrine wherein allah is considered to be the same god as the Christian God. See ‘Nostra Aetate’ “3. The Church has also a high regard for the Muslims. They worship God, who is one, living and subsistent, merciful and almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth, who has also spoken to men. etc. etc.”
Check also ‘Lumen Gentium’ Chapter II. . . . .”But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Moslims. . . ” baloney, baloney, God’s plan of salvation includes only those who have faith in Jesus Christ to be their God and Saviour which Islam rejects. (John 3)
God’s true apostle, the apostle Paul writes, “Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols?” 2nd Corinthians 6:14,15
Muhammad and his followers have to do with “unbelievers” and “wickedness” and “darkness” and “Belial” and the devil. But the Archbishop and the Roman Church’s official pronouncements of the past reject these truths. So we’re not surprised what comes out of the mouths of the Archbishop and Pope Frances.
mortimer says
The position taken by Cardinal Woelki…that Islam is compatible with pluralism… is definitely not consistent with the facts. Ratzinger argued that rather, (separation of church and state) “contradicts the essence of Islam, which simply does not have the separation of the political and the religious sphere that Christianity has had from the beginning.”…
Ratzinger’s last point is 100% correct. The Islamic date starts with the founding of the political state of Islam, rather than any religious revelation announced by Mohammed.
The name ‘Medina’ itself means ‘a place of governance’ and the word for ‘religion’ in Arabic is ‘deen’ (governance or legal system). There is more text in the Islamic foundational texts about politics than religion. Islam is predominantly political.
Woelki is a pompous know-nothing on the subject of Islam.
DFD says
mortimer says: “…Woelki is a pompous…”
Indeed Mortimer, indeed. What did Jesus call such people? A brood of vipers!
His words are obviously still true. He warned also of the caller in the desert, the false prophet.
One cannot help but wonder what characters such as Woelki and his boss would say about Jesus, if they wouldn’t know they are talking about, or with him. Poor Jesus, they’d lecture him about Christianity…
mortimer says
Woelki has abandoned his fellow Germans to the rapists and supremacists in the name of tolerance.
Woelki is more concerned about the economic immigrants than his fellow Germans. He hasn’t a clue about the Islamization process. Sharia law corrosively digests a country.
Custos Custodum says
On the contrary, Woermi understands very well what is happening in front of his own cathedral.
More importantly, Woermi knows which side his bread is buttered, and what is expected of him by the Leftist government-media-church power structure. He is running an excellent snow job for his secular masters.
Andra says
He hasn’t a clue about the Islamization process
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I´m pretty sure that those who are in power in Germany know very well about the growing Islamisation.
I think there are few examples in history for those people in power in Europe today.
Custos Custodum says
Cardinal Woermi has seen – up close and personal, in front of his own cathedral in Cologne – which way the political winds are blowing. He knows not to offend the wrong people.
Muslims not only tolerate rape, murder, pillage, and fraud (especially including immigration and welfare fraud), but have sacralized such acts against dhimmis (and rival Muslims).
Muslims can count on Leftists to support them every step of the way, even at the cost of harm to earlier constituencies of Left (remember the “working class,” “women,” “gays,” the environment, and other Leftist causes du jour?)
By contrast, the few remaining actual Christians, and the far larger number of people brought up with a Judeo-Christian sense of morality, do not threaten or commit violence or even fraud in obedience to their faith.
Based on a sober balancing of the pros and cons, the miserable Cardinal Woermi has made the right decision.
mortimer says
Disagree. I believe church revenues will drop with leaders like Woelki.
Custos Custodum says
That may well be true, but we can be sure that Woermi personally will be well taken care of.
As regards revenues, churches throughout the West have long become addicted to government cash for tasks such as housing illegal immigrants, etc. Perhaps Woermi’s archdiocese will get a juicy contract to pamper anonymous members of “migrant” rape gangs.
DFD says
Here’s something more on this guy, Wellness-Woelki, when there are demos or gatherings against the rapefugees and people demand actions to be taken, he turns off the lights in- and around the Cathedral.
I read that today in PI
Wellington says
Much of the present Catholic hierarchy is not only failing fellow Catholics but, ominously, all of Western Civilization. Profound shame upon these clerics since tolerance of massive intolerance, and Islam has massive intolerance written all over it, is stupid, suicidal and immoral.
IQ al Rassooli says
It is OBVIOUS that the Catholic clergy are literally allowing for the DESTRUCTION of Christianity by invariably siding with Muslims starting with Francis
I hope that some Catholic would bring the following PERFECT axiom to the attention of the clueless and criminally negligent Catholic leaders:
“Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance.
“If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant,
if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant,
then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.
We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.”
Karl Popper
Hence we must NEVER Tolerate the Intolerance of Islam and Sharia nor allow them to soil our soil.
Those who tolerate Evil are Intolerant of Good.
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
Champ says
Great comment, IQ!
Westman says
I think a strong factor is the Pope, his Cardinals, and Bishops have no real understanding of love for a woman or daughter. I think they are equally guilty, with Islam, of devaluing women as unequal.
Or, perhaps, in their minds, we are all just sheep to be controlled by the whims of a lazy “shepherd” who thinks a “reasonable” loss won’t impact his bottom line.
After all, the Pope has reasonable expectation that HE can avoid the wolves. Hey, it’s just business.
Wellington says
I agree with almost all you say, Westman, but I don’t think the problem with much of the Catholic hierarchy has anything to do with the devaluing of women. Remember, the most honored human being in all of history for Catholics is a woman——–Mary, the mother of Jesus. Certainly in the Catholic Catechism there is great respect extended to women and there is nothing in said Catechism which calls for subordination of women in this world——- socially, legally, etc., as can be found in the Islamic theological blueprint again and again.
Rather, I think the problem with much of the Catholic hierarchy in our time is that it has been infused with a sappy and dopey liberal relativism. No one knew this better than the previous Pope, whom I greatly admire. Sadly, though, the voice of a Benedict has been relegated to the back choir and lesser men like Francis are now in the primary choir. Damn shame.
Westman says
I think you have a point Wellington. What I was suggesting was that if it was their wife or daughter at risk to fundamentalists they wouldn’t be so liberal. Because It is a love they have not invested in, they are at least one degree removed from the risk of watching unrepairable damage to that investment.
I should have been more careful to point out that I was not equating the same level of disregard for women as is found in Islam, but I think a much lower level exists in the priest class and the doctrine – notably the assignment of specific gender roles without regard to abilities and personality. It is this very assignment as the dependent, by force in the case of Islam, that sets the tone of male supremacy in Islam and justifies the dictation of a woman’s value in witnessing and inheritance.
Wellington says
Thanks for your reply, Westman, and may I say I think you have a point.
Kepha says
Back in Martin Luther’s day, a certain cardinal, clearly seeking to steer Catholic clergy away from shackups with their housekeepers or “common law” arrangements, wrote a tract comparing the smell of female genitalia to “stinking fish”. Luther blasted the cardinal as teaching scorn for all mothers, who should be honored along with our fathers, per the Fifth Commandment–and this was before Marty met Katerina von Bora.
Jay Boo says
When Muslims attack in St Peter’s square, it will be less fashionable for the liberal wing Catholic clergy to keep up this nonsense.
Custos Custodum says
On the contrary, when (not if) Muslims stage major attacks in St. Peter’s square, a goodly number of cardinals will rush out, then and there, with professions of understanding and submission (Islam in Arabic).
The speeches, sermons and press releases have been drafted and refined, and are ready for use, with blanks only for the number of victims.
Cardinals are educated people, all have some Latin, most will have classical Greek and Hebrew. The change to Arabic should not be too much of a challenge for the more adaptable princes of the Church.
dumbledoresarmy says
Defeatism.
Eddie Delahoussaye says
There are more Bishops in Hell for leading there flock in the wrong direction, that is what a famous Spanish Saint has said,I can believe it when you have Retards like this Bishop,he is a fool an a traitor to the Catholic Faith,our ancestors are turning over in there graves after all the wars they fought with Islam in the middle ages an before,they knew Muhammed was an antichrist an was lead bye Satan,now we have fools like this Bishop wanting to follow Islam,He’s an Idiot his head will be the first Moslems cut off,the Bishop will say I tried to tell them to fallow you guys an they (the Moslems) will say bend over an off with your head an straight to Hell the Bishop goes,Bishops who are traitors to the True Faith the Catholic Faith make me sick.
Jay Boo says
Erring Bishops and Muhammad in hell
At bookstores — Dante’s Inferno
duh_swami says
How do you know who’s in Hell? Have you been there? Now ‘that’s’ heavy…
Jay Boo says
The wishful thinking — Let’s just try to be reasonable fantasy.
Has he forgotten that the flying donkey myth Muslim filth also known as the Al-Aqṣā Mosque was designed as a victory mosque.
72 virgin BS preached (shamelessly) to Muslim children at a place (supposedly) sacred to Muslims. These people are really sick and despicable.
Islam is a bad joke posing as a religion.
DFD says
What is a ‘virgin’? Can’t somebody tell me?
Jay Boo says
A virgin is what lecherous Muhammad promised 72 of to his followers
DFD says
Be specific 🙂
aDhimmiSaysWhat? says
I truly don’t get this 72 virgins things. What sane man would want to spend eternity having awkward, uncomfortable sex?
duh_swami says
A virgin ain’t;t had none, don’t want none and ain’t gunna get none…
According to that, there are no real virgins in Allah;s Paradise…
Champ says
LOL!! …good one, Timothy! 😀
Champ says
Good one, Jay Boo!
And there is no sex heaven …allah/satan is such a trickster and a liar!
Jay Boo, check this out, for more inane muslim beliefs about sex heaven! …and prepare to burst out laughing! 😀
https://youtu.be/QTtlwL4v5TM
Jay Boo says
It was nice seeing this heavenly paradise.
Strange that I did not see Muhammad as the spokesperson narrating this tour since he was the one making all the promises.
I guess he was all tied up in another ‘location’.
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
No; it isn’t about ‘devaluing of women’. It’s about being PC.
Think of all the idiots who ARE married to women, who DO have daughters. I mean they’re all as stupid as these clerics are, too.
But omigosh, ‘The Joys of Heaven’, eh? ‘Perfumed burps and sweat’ and ‘no one ever needs the toilet’! This has finished me off entirely!
Westman says
Don’t forget the entertainment! Watching those hell-bound creatures writhing in pain.
firefoxhits says
There is no doubt – Islam is Satanic.
These children are too young to comprehend any of this.
It is pure evil.
It is child abuse.
And not far off from what is soon to be in your child’s school – Common Core – Google this new bit of liberal promoted insane indoctrination for your kids.
Champ says
Even the young man pictured on the video looks disgusted with what he’s hearing …like ‘this stuff sounds weird’ kind-uv expression! 😀
Champ says
…referring to Jay Boo’s video!
LR says
That’s a killer on the heart. Sapping any little bit of innocense and joy out of those poor little children. : (
somehistory says
He’s not waiting to be forced under threat of death to serve satan the devil and the wild beast of islam. He’s jumping in with both feet and an open mouth to eat at the “table of demons.” (1 Cor. 10:21)
A great example of one doing bad. How many will follow him?
“Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into the pit (Matthew 15:14).?”
Miao Zedong says
Fine with me. Smash the church towers in his diocese as well.
Wellington says
To put it mildly, yours is not the optimal approach. Reconsider.
mortimer says
That approach was tried in Germany and condemned at Nuremburg.
Jay Boo says
Mortimer
Not everything
“was tried in Germany and condemned at Nuremburg.”
That cliché in relation to smashing the church towers is a misplaced metaphor.
Miao Zedong says
Maybe a church tower without a bell ? The simpler church towers in Italy don’t look much different from North African minarets. Look at the “Giralda” in Sevilla (which indeed is a minaret with bells).
Wellington says
Uh, Miao Zedong, I don’t think church towers with or without a bell is a “factor” here. More expansively, Christianity is not a threat to liberty. Islam is. Time to move on from church towers, contra minarets which serve in architectural form as testimony to an ideology which is a mortal threat to liberty.
Jay Boo says
Is that a church bell I hear?
No it is just the discordant clang of
Miao Ding – Dong
Kepha says
Back in the days leading up to the 1848 Revolution, Heine expressed fears of what unleashing Teutonic pugnacity would bring about:
“Christianity – and that is its greatest merit – has somewhat mitigated that brutal Germanic love of war, but it could not destroy it. Should that subduing talisman, the cross, be shattered, the frenzied madness of the ancient warriors, that insane Berserk rage of which Nordic bards have spoken and sung so often, will once more burst into flame. This talisman is fragile, and the day will come when it will collapse miserably. Then the ancient stony gods will rise from the forgotten debris and rub the dust of a thousand years from their eyes, and finally Thor with his giant hammer will jump up and smash the Gothic cathedrals. … Do not smile at the visionary who anticipates the same revolution in the realm of the visible as has taken place in the spiritual. Thought precedes action as lightning precedes thunder. German thunder is of true Germanic character; it is not very nimble, but rumbles along ponderously. Yet, it will come and when you hear a crashing such as never before has been heard in the world’s history, then you know that the German thunderbolt has fallen at last. At that uproar the eagles of the air will drop dead, and lions in the remotest deserts of Africa will hide in their royal dens. A play will be performed in Germany which will make the French Revolution look like an innocent idyll. (1834)”
It was prophetic, if you consider what German nationalism wrought in the 1930’s.
However, with the breaking of that “fragile talaisman” in our days, I see not the unleashing of pugnacity, but the creation of a timid, selfish people who simply allow the Gothic Cathedrals and all other artefacts of civilization to crumble. Bp. Woelki seems to be one. However he decks himself with the cross, I suspect he is at heart a disbeliever in the unique ministry of the Messiah he professes to follow.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
By this geek’s logic then it must be that church towers were invented as military watch towers, and churches themselves served as armories. Many have warned about the dangers inherent in ahistoricity, and here we are.
Rasmussen says
Yet another man of the cloth taking complete leave of his senses….
mortimer says
Woelki knows not that he knows not. He is a fool.
Jay Boo says
Careful!
That sentence may come back to bite you.
Miao Zedong says
A doubt the he would feel the sting.
KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM says
Wot say we slap his bottom, Morti?
mortimer says
Saint Paul said, ‘When I became a man, I put away childish things.’
Georg says
What an idiot. When did it become obscene to show a preference for something, or make a judgement between two things?
By his logic he should be practicing Islam as well as Christianity, because, like, hey that’s only fair and we must be fair.
somehistory says
Many years ago, when Ann Landers and her sister, Abby of Dear Abby, had advice columns, one of them (I don’t recall which lady) wrote in her column in answer to a question, “I like silver hair and blue eyes.”
Some people didn’t like what she said and wanted her to change it as it was showing a favoritism toward *blue eyes.*
She answered back that it was a personal preference and she was not going to say she liked something else better when that would not have been true. She told those who were angry with her that she had a *right* to her personal opinion on such things.
That mindset, that courage, is sorely lacking…esp in many who have a large platform, such as religious *leaders,* politicians, celebs, etc….when it comes to islam.
Fear of man. The Bible says it is a *snare.* (Proverbs 29:25), He should know it and perhaps he does. But doesn’t put any faith in it.
Georg says
Great example. What’s wrong is they effectively, although consciously don’t fully, imply two different things can be the same. We are in a war of logic versus illogic.
It’s so tremendously cowardly and malicious to place the ego-integrity of oneself, by being thought of as swell Mr. Nice Groovy Wonderful Guy, over the well-being of future generations who will have to deal with the mess of these illogical cowards who are so impossibly our leaders. It is thoroughly decadent and should be the last concern of someone who’s supposed to be acting on behalf of the masses.
The archbishop will recommend letting Islam run amok so he can feel good about himself and to hell with posterity. What a traitorous fool.
Westman says
Hear, Hear, Georg!
Islam_Macht_Frei says
Does the reverse hold true – where there are minarets, there shall also be church spires and temples?
Louis says
Are we going to have a schism …in the Catholic Church hierarchy… .those who believe and have converted to Islam and betrayed themselves to Satan and those who will uphold the teachings of Christ.
jewdog says
I certainly don’t want or expect the Church to return to the days of going after heretics, but they could show a little more spine, and discernment. The violent intolerance of infidels in many Muslim countries should elicit a lot more caution; the comfy life in Europe could end soon if trends continue.
Champ says
Archbishop of Cologne rebukes Alternative for Germany: “Whoever says ‘yes’ to church towers must also say ‘yes’ to minarets”
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This is part and parcel of the wrongheaded and evil Chrislam movement …
https://youtu.be/k7R-IWXzgeo
Angry Citizen says
“Whoever says ‘yes’ to minarets needs to be sent to an islamic country to see how long they will survive”.
DFD says
Hi all, GOOD NEWS,
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A bit of news to cheer us up: As some of you may know, the AfD is holding its party conference, yesterday and today, and the following news is so far available:
If elected they will prohibit the following: Full Burqas. Muezzin calls. Minaretts to be demolished and new ones prohibited. Imams to be schooled in German universities, sermons in German. Islam will be investigated if it is constitutional.
EU: Exit! Unless (extensive) reforms will be put through without delay. Turkey: Immediate stop to negotiations for EU membership. That is a bit of a red herring though, the ascension of a new member can be vetoed anyway by any existing member, such as Hungary, Slovakia etc. In other words, Turkey into the EU = fat chance.
Immigration: Stop! Except qualified immigrants with a high probability and adaptability for integration. Translate: Muslims need not apply.
More…..: The former leader of Czechoslovakia, Václav Klaus, has supported the AfD in numerous occasions, he sent a message that is the duty of the AfD to stop the “entdemokratisierung” (how do I translate that? But I think you can guess. De-democratization perhaps…) of Germany. Václav Klaus is one of the seniors of European politics, he was instrumental in, or at least on the preparation to, bringing the wall down. He simply let express train by express train of east Germans through to west Germany, much to the dismay of Gorbachev and Honecker. Very difficult to badmouth him as a Nazi – except for Antifa…
More….: The AfD European Parliamentarian Marcus Pretzell, yes, they are already in there, even though the AfD is only 3 years old; joins the ENF (Europe of the Free Nations) Fraktion of the EU, which is predominantly Marine Le Pen, Geert Wilders, the Italian Lega Nord and the FPÖ of Austria. The FPÖ will provide the next Austrian president, he won practically everything, although the polls, hysterically, predicted the opposite.
More….: The AfD European Parliamentarian Beatrix von Storch (she’s the one who said German police should shoot at the border “if necessary”) has joined the EU’s EFFD-Fraktion – where she will shake hands with Nigel Farage (Britain’s UKIP).
If that doesn’t cheer up, here’s more….
In the latest polls the AfD came out 3rd place, ~15% on average. Why is that good news? Well, in the polls for the German super Sunday in March they were supposed to get no more than 5%, tops. All pollster were *absolutely * sure – of course. They clocked on average 20%, with the Saxons even 25%. Now, if that would come out at the same ratio of ‘polling misrepresentation/manipulation’, then they’d get 60% in an immediate election !!! They’d win hands down.
Source for it all: PI (Politically Incorrect) and Junge Freiheit
I hope I made your day, it certainly made mine. Enjoy the evening.
(and of course, I am cross posting this. Can anyone blame me?)
CeltictotheBone says
Keep spreading the news mein freund. AFD uber alles!!!
Mark Swan says
Thanks DFD…good post
Jay Boo says
Knights of Columbus looking to combat religious persecution
DFD says
Hi Jay Boo,
Thanks for the link, I hate to say this, but I think for the “combat” means to “issue stern statements and to make strong demands in no uncertain terms”.
A lot of pro & con is said about the new crusaders, the new Templars of 777, but they do **actual, real, physical combat**!
God Bless them
No Fear says
It’s only fair that I be allowed to practise my Aztec religion, complete with human sacrifice.
All (cultures,religions,people) are equal.
DFD says
Disgusting, utterly offensive.
Don’t sacrifice humans. Sacrifice Muslims!
Consider yourself thoroughly chastised.
duh_swami says
The minaret is a phallic symbol an original reproduction of the anatomy of Allah…Allah then is one big…..but you already knew that…
Angemon says
No, they don’t. That’s like saying that one who is in favour of dogs must also be in favour of wolves since they’re both canidae. I’ll stick with the good, old, loyal German Sheppard, Cardinal, and wish you good luck with the wolves – you’re going to need it.
Which is demonstrably true. Why the Cardinal is reacting badly to it is beyond me.
No, they’re not. End of discussion.
Because, as we all know, saying something that is true but the party in question wouldn’t want to be known is a crime – under sharia, that is…
Well, so what? Is AfD breaking the law?
Which she did.
No, there is one alternative – not having freedom of religion. And you’re defending the people who call for that alternative by denigrating and chiding the people who oppose them.
What about invaders and lawbreakers? Are they to escape the consequences of their action by playing the race or religious card? You know, crying that they’re being persecuted because of the colour of their skin of the religion they follow?
“Never again must people in this country be marginalized or persecuted for their race, ethnicity or religion”. Fine. What about people who voice unpopular opinions – are those allowed to be marginalized or persecuted?
And Emperor Palpatine was right all along.
DFD says
Hi Angemon,
Benedict had his head screwed on right. Personally I think he saw what was coming and that he’d powerless to stop it. That I believe was his real reason for his resignation.
Even of he tried, he’s German, the British press always had fits about him and badmouthed him on very opportunity, at least once a month. I don’t know about the ‘enemedia’ (thanks for the term Pam Geller) in other countries.
If he’d mentioned Islam and what’s heading our way – they’d probably called for his burning at the stake.
Brother were they jubilant when he was replaced by the current pope… He was hailed as a real man of God, of a man of sanity, a man of understanding what is needed, et cetera est…
Does any of that surprise you?
BTW: I think you’re right about Emperor Palpatine
DFD says
Sorry for the typos. Should still be readable, I trust
Angemon says
Crystal clear XD
Angemon says
I remember months ago a report surfaced about a push to replace Benedict. The new Pope, the tumblrite Francis, is the “New Coke” of the RCC, and his goal seems to be to mould the RCC to society’s alleged expectations. What could possibly go wrong?
Fessitude says
In conversations with atheists, they frequently bring up the fact that Pope Benedict “was a Nazi Youth member” — as though that trumps everything else he did; and as though there isn’t a larger, looming problem of Islam now, and getting worse.
mach37 says
Did German youth really have a choice about joining the Nazi Youth group?
DFD says
mach37 says: “Did German youth really have a choice about joining the Nazi Youth group?”
No.
Unless you wanted reduced education and being “marked”. For your parents it was more straightforward, demotions, job loss etc.
Like, if you didn’t attend “the rallies”, the ‘Gauleiter’ (Block-warden) would pay you a visit. Every housing block had one, member of the NSDAP. First check: do you have a copy of mein kampf. Then laying out all those things that can happen, job-loss, rent increase, etc.
The first victims of any tyrant anywhere are always, without exception, his own people.
dumbledoresarmy says
My dear German cousins (yes, I address you as cousins, because some of you surely *are*; I have German forebears who migrated to Australia in the 1860s), here posting or lurking: please, do not allow this fool to go unwarned.
If you identify as Catholics it is your *duty* to speak up if one of your ‘shepherds’ is leading the flock astray. Write to him, as a concerned Catholic. And send him a copy of Sam Solomon’s little book “The Mosque and Its Role in Society”. And in fact, even if not Catholic, you should write and challenge him, politely, but firmly.
Now, here are some useful articles about mosques, that you might like to translate into German, and circulate.
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/46020
Saturday, 2 February 2013
Fitzgerald: Mosques in the West
And here is a news report from Israel, about Muslims who stored weapons inside a mosque (this happens very, very frequently, and not only in Israel but in many other countries, whether Muslim or non-Muslim).
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/208678
“…The attacks were notable for their religious aspects. They shot two Jewish men while the were praying and frequently attacked IDF soldiers near the Tomb of the Patriarchs. After each attack, they hid their weapons in the al-Mujahideen Mosque in Hevron…”.
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/56574
Sunday, 28 September 2014
Mosques In Kenya A Security Threat
And here is a very interesting article by an *ex-Muslim*, an apostate from Islam.
http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2006/02/inside-forbidden-fortress.html
Inside the Forbidden Fortress
“…Every mosque I’ve been in (and that’s a fair number) has a feeling of submission about it.
By submission, I mean that everyone in this place has had their identity essentially destroyed by the straitjacket that is Islam. It is all quiet, but it isn’t the peaceful sort of quiet. There is no peace—there is, rather, a palpable sense of fear…”.
“If you ever get the chance of hearing a mullah, do listen to him closely, if you can understand.
You will surely hear words like ‘May Allah destroy the infidels and give their possessions to us’, especially on Fridays.
I’ve heard such things many times in a mosque, more times than I can count.
In some parts of the world that prayer is actually written on the front wall of the mosque…”.
And finally, on the subject of minarets (but also of mosques in general, and where they tend to be built), a very perceptive Israeli student of geography.
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=140652
Apr 29, 2009 20:29 | Updated Apr 30, 2009 18:09
More than a coincidence: Minarets, geography and power
By SETH J. FRANTZMAN
Note well “minarets, geography, and *power*”.
A minaret is a statement of intent to dominate and subjugate. It is a *threat*.
“…A survey of historical placement of mosques in important cities and newly conquered Muslim lands, as well as a survey of the placement of mosques in diverse neighborhoods, shows that their placement is anything but random and that strikingly often they are built next to the houses of prayer or the neighborhoods of non-Muslims…”.
THE MOSQUE and its minaret are symbols of power. The giant brick tower of Qutb Minar in Delhi is 72 meters high and until recent times was the world’s tallest minaret. It was constructed by the sultans of Delhi to celebrate their victory and conquest of the city.
Even in more obscure locations, the building of minarets has served as an expression of power and influence. The center of the Jewish Quarter of the Old City of Jerusalem has long been the Hurva Synagogue which was constructed and reconstructed several times between 1700 and the present. But attached to this great synagogue is a mosque whose minaret is intentionally taller than the Hurva’s dome.
The America Colony Hotel in Sheikh Jarrah has a mosque next door to it. The Western Wall of Jerusalem has a mosque perched atop its northern end. The Mount of Olives Jewish graveyard has a mosque which adjoins it. Jeremiah’s Grotto in east Jerusalem, which was for a long time a pilgrimage site, now obscured by the east Jerusalem central bus station, also has a mosque at its entrance. The Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem has a large mosque just across from it on Manger Square, constructed in a town which at the time was 80 percent Christian. A controversy over Muslim attempts to build a mosque next to the Basilica of the Annunciation in Nazareth led to riots in 2002. In each of these cases the mosques were built after the non-Muslim building was constructed.
The building of mosques is not always an expression of power, but historically and today in mixed communities mosques are constructed with a view toward the non-Muslim other..”
And that view, to say the least, is NOT benevolent. It is a view of aggression and hostility, whether explicit or , temporarily, covert.
dumbledoresarmy says
Another excellent article, by an astute person of Indian Hindu origin, resident in the USA, one Vijay Kumar, on the subject of the mosque. It appeared here at jihadwatch in 2010.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/07/vijay-kumar-the-muslim-mosque-a-state-within-a-state.html
“The Muslim Mosque: A State Within a State”.
Above, I mentioned the apostate from Islam, Sam Solomon. Here he is being interviewed on the subject of the mosque and what it is and isn’t.
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/28874
Saturday, 31 July 2010
What is a Mosque? An Interview with Sam Solomon
“…In addition to the undisputed significance of the Medina mosque as the role model for all Mosques, there is also the Islamic policy of establishing strategic Mosques as beachheads with interconnected networks.
“Taken together, these two policies do constitute a clear and present danger—and a need for concern.
For example, when Abu Hamza[1] was the Imam of the Finsbury Park mosque in the United Kingdom, he trained people, he sent out terrorists and British authorities found arms stored there.
“He was well within his Islamic mandate as these activities were sanctioned by Islam. He didn’t find it wrong because it is in the Islamic manuals.
“Another prime example of a mosque being found to have engaged in high-level political, military and intelligence activities is the Munich Mosque, which is now considered by Islamists to be on a par with some of highest-ranked Mosques in Muslim countries.[2]…”.
dumbledoresarmy says
From the jihadwatch archives. A story about a mosque in Berlin.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2004/01/jihad-in-germany.html
“…A Tunisian MUSLIM man who was trained by Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan has been charged in Germany with trying to form a group there that would attack American and Jewish targets. Where did he go to find recruits for this endeavor? You guessed it — to a mosque…”.
Mark Swan says
dumbledoresarmy…Thank You for all the information…good commenting also…Thank You.
DFD says
As Mark Swan says: Thanks for the info and the good commenting. I second that.
One problem with your suggestion in your first post above, if a German were to send this to him, post or email, he would, in all likely hood, report him or her to the police and complain about harassment and racist, Islamophobic, or Nazi propaganda. And the police would act. That person would be hit by or with the full force of the law.
The situation in Germany is horrible. It’s no longer a democracy, but not yet a full dictatorship. Like Hitler had the SA {(brown shirts) Sturm Abteilung} Merkel has and uses AntiFa. Their favored slogan or battle cry is to beat every Nazi into mush. A Nazi, according to AntiFa, and their counterparts in other western countries, is everybody who is not between left wing/socialist and outright anarchist. They really are the shock troops of the School of Frankfurt.
In demos, that is when they attack PEGIDA, AfD (firebombing their offices, cars and even homes) they act practically with police protection and the full support of the press. If it cannot be fully supported, the press refers to their attacks as left wing or liberal protests. Sometimes, rarely though, as demonstrations or counter demonstrations.
R says
“Whoever roots for Manchester United must also root for Arsenal.”
Should be Liverpool, not Arsenal. Nice effort, though.
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
aDhimmi: Hahahahahahahahaha! ‘Awkward and uncomfortable sex’! That’s hilarious!
But the key is your word ‘sane’. ‘What sane man’-NO ‘sane man’. But of course these are MUSLIM men you know! Nothing ‘sane’ about them!
Actually their ‘heaven’ is just more of what makes them delirious with joy here on terra firma: RAPING tons of little girls, with allah/mohammed (pee be upon them both) looking on approvingly…
But their heaven does sound really CLEAN. Now that’d be a problem for the dirty filthy muslims, am I right? In fact that’d be hell for them the way they like to live like trailer trash on meth…
mach37 says
Whoever says ‘yes’ to minarets has not read the Quran and does not understand Islam.
mach37 says
Pardon my straightforwardness, but Archbishop Woelki is a fool regarding Islam.
DFD says
He may be. More likely, he’s a traitor to Christendom/Western Civilization. He may be jockeying for position or at least “positive” publicity.
Jesus called such men “…brood of vipers!” He know them over 2,000 years ago…
firefoxhits says
The most disturbing thing that this Pope has made clear is that “the Roman Catholic Church and Islam are NOT strange bed fellows”.
If I get a vote, bring down every RC spire too.
Michael Baker says
The Catholic Hierarchy foolishly believe that with a religious Muslim majority the Christian church will be strengthened in European society. They hope that civilisation with tame Islam ? How wrong they are living in their Ivory Towers cut off from reality.
mach37 says
Goes to show the Archbishop knows NOTHING of Muslim theology; when the Muslims are the majority they make the Jews and Christians pay Muslim-prescribed taxes and feel themselves subdued.
Marcel Berube says
In Europe , now , it is in for men in autority to behave on the passiv mode. It gives such results as that bishop .
DFD says
Here’s something more on this guy, Wellness-Woelki, when there are demos or gatherings against the rapefugees and people demand actions to be taken, he turns off the lights in- and around the Cathedral.
I read that today in PI
mach37 says
It looks like all European men are in the passive mode when Muslims are raping their women. How come there are no reports of Euro-men trying to fight off the Muslims when they start raping? There should be some fights going on there, assuming that European men outnumber the Muslims.
DFD says
There are, plenty, but are **LESS** reported upon than Muslim attacks. Resisters, passive or active, are reported and are immediately defamed and slandered as Nazis, Islamophobes, Racist etc.
Unlike sentences against Muslim attackers, or Antifa (type (that means Maoist/Anarchist)) attackers, sentences against those who resist or even counter-attack are most severe.
The atmosphere in Europe can be gauged from a man in Dresden: He was asked to join a PEGIDA march, he said: “When there are more than 100,000” Merkel, Hollande, Cameroun & Co are effectively running a ‘soft tyranny’.
It is high time to show guts, what J.F. Kennedy called: “Civil Courage!”
Those of you who read this, take note!
If there’s a PEGIDA type march or demo, JOIN! You have to be number 100,001! You have no choice left!
To Americans: Get organized, go onto the streets! Do so before it’s WAY too late. Don’t hide and be wishful about your amendments. Or that you are gun owners. You are already being attacked as we are. You are already infiltrated. All you need to do is read your own news and compare with reality. Get organized! Go onto the streets!
Sorry, for the exclamation marks, but these were or are appropriate.
Erik says
Minarettes are our bayonets, dixit Erdogan .
When was ever a church tower described as such?
Religions should not carry weapons as does islam, so curtail them.
UNCLE VLADDI says
How did this vermin make it to ARCH-bishop?!
Emilio De Lugi says
Religions of the monotheistic group, i.e. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam have exactly the same roots. All assume that they are the true revelation fo God, that it is an obligation to believe in them, that it is right to kill the heretics.
It is a fact that Islam is in hot pursuit of the total dominance of the planet and that Christians are currently not using conquest and destructions to expand their dominance. But Christians have done that for millennia.
Jews have an ethnic basis, may be created by excluding the gentil, but that has a strong bearing in their politics. AS a rule, they do not make apostolate.
But all can return to their roots, that are totally exclusive of any other religions. No preference should be given to anybody. no state-run help. please.
IQ al Rassooli says
Emilio
Please stand CORRECTED:
1. Islam is NOT a religion because Allah is NOT the God of Jesus Moses & Abraham
2. Not a single verse in the Torah of the Jews incites the followers of Moses to Subjugate or Exterminate none Jews
3. Neither will you find such a verse in the New Testament
4. On the other hand, Islam is the ONLY belief system that MANDATES the followers of Muhammad to either Subjugate non Muslims to Sharia or EXTERMINATE them
5. Jews do not go out of their way to CONVERT others like Muslims & Christians do at all times. The faith of the Jews is a Private Club which requires a very high price. For example, to convert to the faith of the Jews one has to spend three to four years of education. If one is a grown up male, one has to circumcise. These terms reduce the possibility of a Gentile to convert to almost ZERO!
6. To convert to Christianity or Islam can be done in hours if not in minutes!
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
Angemon says
Emilio, go hit the books.
Champ says
Emilio wrote:
“It is a fact that Islam is in hot pursuit of the total dominance of the planet and that Christians are currently not using conquest and destructions to expand their dominance. But Christians have done that for millennia.”
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When have Christians *EVER* used conquest and destruction to expand their dominance? This was not even a basic teaching of Jesus Christ!
Whereas islam is all about the “total dominance of the planet” and was the main message and objective of muhammad (perdition be upon him).
Champ says
Educate yourself Emilio …
“The Truth About the Crusades – Christian Resistance Against Islamic Jihad”
https://youtu.be/W4ENPy0mqOE
LR says
Hey Archy, where-da-ya-live? We’ll put those minarettes right outside YOUR bedroom window. You want ’em, you got ’em.
LR says
Not really surprising. The Catholic Church a long time ago began supporting ANY kind of immigration, illegal and all. Hey, Latin America is poor and we have so much, so who cares about protecting borders. We need open borders! So what if it stresses schools, brings more gang problems, drug cartel wars, and some people lose their lives to illegal criminals.
Same goes for anyone else I guess.
dumbledoresarmy says
A final thought.
There are Germans here present.
We hear all about the Islamophile appeasers in the German church, like this foolish Archbishop. They get lots of coverage from the Islamophile media, as one would expect.
But … Are there *other* clergy – whether Catholic, Orthodox or Protestant – and at any level, from humble parish church on up – who are *resisting* Islamisation and telling the truth about Islam?
There must be *some*, here and there. If you don’t already know them… go looking for them. Keep an ear open, in the local press, and in the church newspapers and newsletters; the brave ones will be copping flak. When you find them, make sure you give them messages of support. You might even join their congregation!
What you need is a priest who will, if Orthodox, Catholic or Lutheran, ring the Angelus joyfully three times a day.. and in addition, the ‘Turkish Bell’ (look it up; instituted back in the 15th century by one Pope Calixtus), an alarm bell, at midday, summoning the faithful to pray for the defeat of the Jihad.
You need a priest or a pastor who is *not* a Dhimmi and will plainly tell his flock the truth about Islam.
Even if there are only a few they can become the nucleus of a resistance.
Remember what the Lord told Elijah? – “I have yet seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal”.
dumbledoresarmy says
I would like to share something that happened to me, just recently.
I was at a gathering in a little suburban Anglican church, here in Australia. Mothers’ Union groups from our area had come together for a worship service, with morning tea and lunch. We were having our morning tea and chatting. There were some gentlemen present, who had come along with their wives.
The subject of conversation, in one small knot of people, turned to Africa, and the plight of African Christians – I think Nairobi was mentioned. There are lots of Anglicans in both east and west Africa and along with the other Christians in those locations they are suffering dreadfully under the jihad onslaught that is coming down against them from the Islamised regions. I entered the conversation and stated plainly that what was going on, in many countries, was Jihad. And one of the other people, a nice bloke, maybe in his early sixties, agreed strongly.
Indeed, all of a sudden, with a certain degree of defiance in his tone, as if expecting people to disagree, he burst out with something like, “I think we need a new Crusade”. I forget the precise words he used, but I know he said, “Crusade”, and he *meant* it.
Think about that. A nice meek-and-mild Anglican Christian gentleman in a little suburban church. He’s not stupid. He’s informed. The information circulates along the *alternative* lines of communication maintained by the church – the charities, the mission organisations; the bishops of various regions talk to other another. And people belong to groups like Barnabas Fund, that cross the boundaries between countries and denominations. Word gets out, no thanks to Reuters, AFP, AP, and the rest.
And there in a little suburban church in Australia, reflecting on the Muslim mass murder of his fellow Anglicans in Africa, this Aussie anglican suddenly comes out with the C-word. Crusade. The taking up of arms to repel the Jihad, to defend …Christendom.
Straws in the wind.
Even as prelate after prelate speak of appeasement, there are other people within the Church Universal, right down at ground level, who are remembering the deep and distant past, and hearing the sound of trumpets.
“And I saw my lady afar, with her holy freedom upon her,
a head without veil, averted, and not to be turned by charms;
and I heard above bannerets blown the intolerant trumpets of honour
That echo with iron laughter the coming of Christian arms”. (Chesterton: The Crusader Returns from Captivity).