“It’s a really hard thing to tell your government, ‘By the way, your policies are problematic.’ Governments are not comfortable talking about it because it forces them to be self-critical of their own policy — but it cannot be ignored.”
Is Phil Gurski, former CSIS analyst, serious? Muslims join jihad groups because they find it difficult to criticize government policies? So in Canada, where there is still relatively open discussion and debate in the public arena, and loyal opposition is not against the law, is so repressive of dissent that the only outlet that young Muslims can find is violence?
One wonders if these “experts” believe their own nonsense.
Note also that what Gurski is counseling is essentially surrender to jihadi demands. He says: “Every single plot we’ve had dating back to the Toronto 18 was predicated largely — not solely but largely — on this notion that our foreign policy is anti-Islamic or, in fact, killing Muslims. That is the reality. They (extremists) tell us that. They tell us that in their statements. They tell us that in their cellphone videos.” CBC adds: “That is, in fact, what Michael Zehaf-Bibeau did before carrying out a shooting on Parliament Hill in October 2014 that left a Canadian soldier dead.”
They do indeed tell us that. For Gurski and the CBC, this means that Canada and the U.S. should adjust their foreign policies to please the jihadis, and they think that would end the jihad. In fact, if Western countries capitulate to the present set of jihadi demands, there will just be new and more aggressive and assertive demands, emboldened by the precedent that jihadis can get what they want from the West by committing acts of terrorism.
Gurski’s analysis and recommendations here would only result in more jihad terrorism.
“If you want to deradicalize Muslim youth, talk more politics, less religion, say critics,” by Shanifa Nasser, CBC News, May 13, 2016:
Canada has a blind spot when it comes to its efforts to counter the radicalization of young Muslims and other disaffected youth, and hidden in it are the political grievances of young people who feel they have no way to air their views or effect change, some experts warn.
Phil Gurski is a former CSIS analyst who spent 15 years at the spy agency specializing in homegrown terrorism and violent extremism. He found that the government’s foreign policies played a significant role in the radicalization of some individuals.
“It’s a really hard thing to tell your government, ‘By the way, your policies are problematic,'” he said. “Governments are not comfortable talking about it because it forces them to be self-critical of their own policy — but it cannot be ignored.”
Gurski says that Canada has taken positive steps toward thwarting the threat of violent extremism through such prevention programs as Calgary’s police-run ReDirect and Montreal’s anti-radicalization centre.
But, he says, these efforts have focused largely on social and psychological factors and ignored the more uncomfortable driver of radicalization: foreign policies that feed into a narrative of Western aggression against countries with predominantly Muslim populations.
“Every single plot we’ve had dating back to the Toronto 18 was predicated largely — not solely but largely — on this notion that our foreign policy is anti-Islamic or, in fact, killing Muslims,” Gurski said.
“That is the reality. They (extremists) tell us that. They tell us that in their statements. They tell us that in their cellphone videos.”
That is, in fact, what Michael Zehaf-Bibeau did before carrying out a shooting on Parliament Hill in October 2014 that left a Canadian soldier dead.
“This is in retaliation for Afghanistan and because [Prime Minister Stephen] Harper wants to send his troops to Iraq,” he said in a short video manifesto found on his cellphone after he was killed in the attack.
It’s a point that resonates with one Toronto area man who says that, in the aftermath of 9/11, he thought about going to Iraq to join insurgents fighting against the United States. CBC News agreed to conceal the man’s identity because of his fears that he might be branded an extremist.
“I could be considered a radical to some,” he said. “That’s why people like me don’t air their views.”
The man, who is in his thirties, says the reasons why he ultimately chose not to travel to Iraq are varied.
“I did contemplate joining them — in fact, I seriously contemplated it — but I never went. It was a thought. I was questioning.”
There are signs that Canada is stepping up its deradicalization efforts. The federal government earmarked $35 million in its budget for a new community outreach and counter-radicalization co-ordinator, and in April, the Canadian Council of Imams announced plans to open two to three deradicalization “clinics” in Toronto as early as this fall.
Headed by former CCI chairman Hamid Slimi, the clinics will take “a holistic approach,” providing religious counselling and access to psychotherapists and social workers.
“There are people who use religion to justify their acts, and these people are extremists,” Slimi said. “So, you need to go to people who are leading the community on the religious level: imams.”
Deradicalization centres aren’t a new idea, says Gurski, but what is different about the Toronto initiative is that it comes from within the religious community rather than from the government or the justice system, which has attempted to mandate religious counselling in some cases.
In January, the federal parole board included religious counselling in the parole conditions of Saad Gaya, who pleaded guilty to participating in a bomb plot as a member of the so-called Toronto 18. Religious counselling was also ordered for Aaron Driver, a Winnipeg man who tweeted support for ISIS under an alias in 2014, before his lawyer had it dropped from his bail conditions.
The Toronto man who spoke with CBC says it’s unlikely the new clinics will address his political grievances or those of others who’ve concluded that violence is their only recourse.
“I don’t care about imams,” he said. “If we want to address the scourge of terrorism in any meaningful way, we have to acknowledge the government’s role.”…

Jay Boo says
Den of Vipers
mortimer says
Hardly! Phil Gurski is the sort of hero who risks his life so you can write drivel and not go to jail. Have some respect. Shame.
Jay Boo says
Dear Mortimer (the scholar)
Robert Spencer says about (your hero)
“Is Phil Gurski, former CSIS analyst, serious? Muslims join jihad groups because they find it difficult to criticize government policies?
…………….
“One wonders if these “experts” believe their own nonsense.”
Jay Boo says
Mortimer
Your hero wants Deradicalization centres
Does that sound familiar?
I read your asinine drivel in your comments below morty
Muslims are not the victims
Muslims are not slaves to their Qur’ams
Muslims MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE for their actions
Are you really that pig headed that you cannot admit this.
Muslims who follow core texts of Islam are not the VICTIM
Islam is not a slavemasters whip.
Islam is every Muslims shameless EXCUSE
Good Morning Muslim World
It is time to wake up to another day of YOUR disgrace.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/05/raymond-ibrahim-how-the-media-exploit-and-omit-pictures-to-islams-benefit-warning-graphic/comment-page-1#comment-1436834
mortimer says
You are immoderate and shameless and plain rude.
vcragain says
Problem is the ‘education’ that Muslims receive from an early age – they just do not see the world in the same way. They see only their own Islamic focus, and all else is the work of the ‘devil’. We are in a war, and it is being very difficult because of OUR (the West’s) preferred policies – we prefer to give people a chance, to assume they have no evil intent and that is causing us to be civilized where they are not. Our problem is how to deal with this without causing a total anti-Muslim backlash from those who do not know how to control themselves – the ‘bother boys’ in our midst – who will just take us all down with them, THAT is what ‘authorities’ are trying to stop with this ‘calming down’ rhetoric, because we all know we do have morons in our midst who will declare war on all Muslims, which gets us absolutely nowhere. The trick is how to keep out the villains without riling up the base element in the West against anyone who is a Muslim. I hate Islam, but I do try to keep a sane head about WHO my enemies actually are – not easy – and we MAY have to discriminate against all of Islam just to protect ourselves, but being discriminatory does not mean being violent ourselves !!!!! We HAVE to beware of falling into the same thing that drives their extremists ! God save us from religious fervor !!!
Mirren10 says
Yes, mortimer, sometimes he is. But in this case, I agree with him.
In what possible way can you think this fool is a *hero* ? He’s just another moron enabling jihad. It’s all to do with foreign policy ? Did the SanBernadino murderers kill all those people at a party because of foreign policy ?
Read Robert’s comments on this fool.
Jay Boo says
Mortimer said of me
“You are immoderate and shameless and plain rude.”
Thank you,
Once again when you have no defendable argument you resort to hit and run name calling rather than be honest.
For some reason you have really outdone yourself on this article on many of your comments, hence my repeated replies throughout.
You are making me work way too hard. Please save some of your nonsense for other articles rather than do a motherload dump all at once.
Give me a rest .
Michael Copeland says
That clears it up nicely, then. The beheading by muslim attackers of all the men of Otranto, Italy, in 1481 and the forced abduction by armed muslims of all the women and children of Baltimore, Ireland in 1631 were both the result of US foreign policy. Now we know.
Santa Voorhees says
Exactly what I was thinking while I was reading this.
Muslims have been so for 1400 years, long before the US was around.
Voytek Gagalka says
But don’t forgot about those nasty Crusades! They dare to oppose subjugation to Islam rule and that caused whole jihad! Isn’t that what they say? But what then caused jihad in the times of Mohammed? Well, those nasty Jooos dared to laugh their great “prophet” out of Mecca so he had no choice but to make war on them and all infidels. In eyes of Muslims – always nasty Kafirs are guilty, after all “Islam is religion of peace.” It is. Just submit. Ha! NEVER!
mortimer says
The core doctrine of Islam is jihad. Everything else is window dressing.
Jay Boo says
The core doctrine of Islam
jihad
and worship of other gods beside Allah
A survey of 72 satanic verse virgins carrying razor sharp pitchforks reveals they all agree that the Serpent of Satan, Muhammad was an evil buffoon.
pdxnag says
If these enemies within are expelled then the risk of domestic terrorism by Islam-inspired sedition will fall to near zero. They do not belong inside any free nation.
JMB says
(“Expert”: Muslims “radicalize” because they find it hard to criticize government).They can have 2 choices;
1, Find a nice Sharia compliant Muslim nation, go and live there and try and criticise the government there, try and form an opposition there, try and criticise or debate the religious authorities there or even set up a print shop to put out thought provoking literature. Needless to say all of these actions will result in an early and often violent death.
2, Stay in Canada or Australia, live the good life at taxpayer expense and then criticize the government using the following methods which are generally not available in Arab countries; The ballot box, a simple letter to the press, get on to talk-back radio, publish (a credible) newsletter, stand for parliament, form a law abiding political party or better still, try and get an education, learn to speak English and do something useful and integrate into the society that has given you everything.
mortimer says
What the jihadists criticize is that Western governments are sending troops to fight JIHAD. THAT is their ‘grievance’. In other words, they wish Western governments to accept the conquest of the West by jihad. They consider all Western governments to be HARBI governments.
A ‘harbi’ is a kafir ‘at war’ with Islam. Resistance to Islam (or national defense) is in itself a crime against Islam.
Resistance to Islam is paid by the taxpayers of Western nations, therefore the TAXPAYERS are all ‘harbi’ kafirs who should be killed. That is the thought of the jihadists which Phil Gurski has not had explained to him. ALL TAXPAYERS ARE GUILTY AND SHOULD BE ATTACKED, according to the jihadists.
Message to Phil Gurski: ‘Is that clear to you now, Phil?’
JMB says
Agree completely that we are all seen as the enemy of the Islamic State. No Western nation should be involved in the fighting that is going on in the whole Middle East. That whole part of the world have all been at war with each other since the beginning of recorded history. Our involvement there particularly since 2001 has been sheer insanity.
Likewise, any Muslim refugee who wants to come to Canada or Australia or the EU or USA for the better and peaceful life should be prepared to renounce Islam, totally.
Our only involvement there should be to send in the gunboats including an aircraft carrier should oil supplies or international shipping be threatened.
In a slightly related story a group of 5 would be jihadists have been arrested in North Queensland. They had towed their 7 meter open recreational style fishing boat all the way from Melbourne with the aim of leaving Australia by sea and somehow getting to Syria, probably via Indonesia. Almost something out of a boys own adventure comic.
Jay Boo says
Mortimer says
A ‘harbi’ is a kafir ‘at war’ with Islam. Resistance to Islam (or national defense) is in itself a crime against Islam.
——————
Wake up Mortimer
Muslims need someone else to blame for Islam’s misery and shallow pervert prophet 72 virgin pig bath joke called Islam.
mortimer says
Phil Gurski is typical of Western elites: they base their opinion of Islam on externals only, without having done the requisite reading. They have not read the foundational source texts of Islam or Sharia or the manuals on jihad which the jihadists all read and memorize!
Such elites have unresearched opinions about Islam that are no more than conjecture. That’s not good enough for those who need to know how the enemy thinks and WHY they think it. Western elites are not being educated to do their jobs and they are not encouraged to educate themselves about jihad!
The naivety about the JIHAD DOCTRINE may not entirely be Phil Gurski’s fault, but it is MOST CERTAINLY the fault of his SUPERIORS and the POLITICIANS WHO ARE ALMOST COMPLETELY UNINFORMED about Islam’s normative doctrine of supremacist warfare called JIHAD.
Mastering the JIHAD DOCTRINE is the core of DEFEATING IT.
Sun Tzu wrote: “If you know others and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles.”
They do not know the jihad doctrine…we are in peril.
Jay Boo says
Damn it mort
Get your lies strait and stop trying to play it from both ends.
You called Phil Gurski a hero in your first comment.
Champ says
Exactly, Jay Boo; but Mortimer has always been inconsistent. Nothing new here …
Emilie Green says
Did this guy just come out of Make-Up for the filming of Whitey Bulger’s Well-Aimed Head Shots?
Maybe we should check the back of his head as well since every bit of logic and common sense has drained away.
mortimer says
It’s the government’s fault for not hiring Robert Spencer to teach them the facts.
Jay Boo says
What?
It’s the government’s fault ????????????
Oh
It is the Qur’ans fault too, right mort (mort 101)
Here is a clue who to blame
MUSLIMS
Geraldine says
Well, he could be a head-banging heavy metal fan. Then again, maybe he could be a floor-banging Muslim convert.
Angemon says
Is that a zebiba on his forehead or just a bad case of liver spots?
First of all, your use of the word “problematic” is, well, problematic. “Problematic” is a term used by enforcers of “political correctness” to refer to dissenting ideas. No, seriously, you can’t wave a dead rat on the internet without hitting something “problematic”. Sexy beach body ads? Problematic. Videogames? Problematic. Skepticism of established dogmas (like, for example, man-made climate changes)? Problematic. Criticism of identity politics? Problematic. I don’t like what you think, therefore, problematic.
Second, are you living in a parallel universe where Canada is a totalitarian dictatorship where “problematic” people are sent to the Kapuskasing camp? Who, in a free Western nation, is afraid of criticizing their government? Like, seriously dude – you had ONE job.
Who gives that narrative? Islamic preachers. Why are muslims susceptible to fall for it? Because they’re muslims – islam teaches that muslims are to be soft among themselves and hard on non-muslims, that non-muslims are jealous of muslims and always scheming against them, and that muslims are not to take non-muslims for friends. Of course, even if Western nations never against raised their weapons against a muslim-majority nation, the jihad would continue, only unopposed.
Again, why are Canadian muslims and muslims in Canada feeling more empathy with terrorists in a land they never set a foot on than with the land they were born and/or are living in? See above.
Gurski may be an expert on something, but not on this subject. I’m sure he’ll do well under Trudeau though…
DFD says
Hi Folks,
Slightly off topic, I know. But I just had to share this with you…
http://pi-news.net/wp/uploads/2016/05/trojanisches-pferd-440×286.jpg
lol says
Fun fact about CSIS:
Their spokesperson is a Muslim named Tahera Mufti
The name Mufti is Arabic meaning “an Islamic scholar who is an interpreter or expounder of Islamic law”
gravenimage says
Thanks for that grim information.
cdnmohamhater says
it looks like he is trying to hide his prayer bump under 3 strands of hair….look closely….no joke
linnte says
Joke: how many Jihadis does it take to kill a million people?
Answer: just one if he’s got the right bomb.
Not very funny, I know. But it’s true.
Champ says
Sad, but true, Linnte. Hey and how many false prophets does it take to lead millions of people astray. Answer: just one. Gee, which false prophet could that be? lol! ;D
Laurence says
Change laws as necessary and strip their citizenship and deport to an Islamic country of either their origin or not – drop them from the plane if need be, but go they must. And as to their wet-nurses give them a public caning and a dire warning not to ever repeat such nonsense again – from Saudi with ‘love’.
Angemon says
Laurence posted:
“Change laws as necessary”
Laws are bound by constitution. Changing a law isn’t as simple as eating a cup of ice-cream.
“and strip their citizenship and deport to an Islamic country of either their origin or not – drop them from the plane if need be, but go they must.”
That’s not how things work. You can’t “deport” people out of their native country. Even if you could, sending people who known the terrain and mindset, if not the inner decision-making policies and response capabilities of the area they lived in, to live somewhere else where are people trying to attack you doesn’t strike me as a particularly smart move.
You have laws governing deportation of foreign citizens. You have laws to handle traitors. There’s no need to create unnecessary, unconstitutional laws that you can’t enforce to begin with or whose consequences you clearly did not think through.
Rob says
In my country we have a surefire way of telling the government that their policies ‘suck’.
It’s called a VOTE.
The Muslim attitude is to hell with the democratic outcome of an election, if the government doesn’t do what I want I’ll radicalise.
citycat says
“Muslims radicalize because they find it hard to criticise government”
We’ll get violent if you don’t listen to us, you infidels.
Allah is a spoilt brat tyrant, as is evidenced by this type of chat.
More politics, less religion, not quite.
More or less politics, and no religion.
Islam- the politics of misogynistic peace, rape, pillage and plunder.
The Muslims are saying-
“it’s not fair, you should surrender to Islam. Stop defending yourselves, you’re hurting our feelings”
and all this is dilly dallying while the breeding and creeping continues till the population ratio is such that all this Islam is then seen as the war machine that it is, and as a percentage of the world now knows to its detriment.
This Islamic religiosity is wilfully infecting the infidel world.
That Allah creature is a mother vampire of evil, i wonder why it was made, maybe revenge by the results of its created unearthly existance. Bad
gravenimage says
Good post.
vcragain says
‘that Allah creature’ is the nearest thing on this planet to the Bible’s Satan – even those who are not Christian believers can recognize pure evil when we see it !
billybob says
“The government or the justice system has attempted to mandate religious counselling in some cases.”
I find this very disturbing. I believe there should be a solid wall separating religion and state, and this seems to slip through a crack in the wall. The government has no business sending people for “religious counselling”, whatever that may be. I mean – how do they even define that? – because the government has no business defining such a thing. It is simply outside their jurisdiction.
There are people who have a problem with judges sending people with problems with drugs or alcohol to the NA or the AA respectively, because these organizations are quasi religious in nature (appeal to a higher power – whatever that is supposed to be), and there in no academically validated evidence that these programs actually work. Now I do recognize they have to do something in the case of substance abuse, but I would also be sympathetic to arguments that this should stop.
The notion of religious counselling goes way beyond sending a drunk to AA meetings. That is way outside the mandate of a judge. If the radical is a danger to society, he needs to be locked up.
Another worrisome thing I read in that article was that the government is spending $35 million in deradicalization programs. Is there any evidence that such programs are effective before spending all that money? The paragraph just below that mentions a program being set up by the Council of Imams. Will any government’s funds to go them? If they do, that would be a huge problem for me!
The government needs to rethink how they are going to deal with jihadists. They should strongly consider immediate deportation where one is not a citizen, or even where he holds dual citizenship. Beyond that, perhaps the laws need to be toughened up. Send these guys to Frobisher Bay or someplace they can’t hurt anything but polar bears. It is not for the government to worry about their spiritual health, or even to define such a concept.
billybob says
Further to my comment above, I did a lookup on the author of the CBC news piece that is the subject of this article. I discovered that…
“Shanifa Nasser is a freelance journalist and former doctoral student in Islamic Studies based in Toronto. Her stories appear in CBC News, VICE Canada and the National Post / Postmedia Network …
She [among other qualifications] holds a Master’s degree in Islamic Studies from the University of Toronto, funded by the Social Science and Humanities Research Council of Canada.”
I would like to know what business the Social Science and Humanities Research Council of Canada has funding a graduate degree in Islamic Studies? Or in any religion, for that matter? Where is the separation between religion and state? That state has NO business funding a degree in religious studies!
gravenimage says
A degree in Islamic studies need not necessarily be about religion, but just its study.
For instance, Robert Spencer has studied Islam in depth.
But in practice, most Islamic Studies departments are full of Jihad Mohammedans.
billybob says
Hi – its me again. I can’t leave this topic alone. I went to the CBC News article and followed a link from there to…
Toronto 18 member released on day parole in middle of 18-year sentence
Saad Gaya, 28, can attend school, work, but cannot use computers or internet
The Canadian Press Posted: Jan 02, 2016 5:37 PM ET Last Updated: Jan 02, 2016 6:36 PM ET
“He said the former Harper government’s moves to prevent imams from providing correctional services was particularly worrying.”
“From a security perspective, it is important to have people who have expertise and legitimacy to try to address these misreadings of Islam that may have motivated many people who have been convicted of terrorism offences in Canada.”
In its written decision, the parole board said that Correctional Service Canada did not recommend that Gaya be required to speak with an imam for religious counselling. The [parole] board added that condition.”
Get that “people who have expertise and legitimacy to try to address these misreadings of Islam”!
That is just so upsidedown. These radical haven’t misread Islam at all – the Imams who try to convince them of that are ones who have misread Islam. Islam is a violent religion. That’s just the way it is.
And here we see above my worst fears have come to pass – The parole board added that condition that he get religious counselling.
Next step? The Imams are going to get a whack of taxpayer money to try to convince jihadists they are misreading the Quran. This is disgusting!
Ok – now I’m finally done. Thanks for staying with me through 3 long comments.
mortimer says
Anyone reading the Koran already knows that the 9th chapter abrogates everything before it. Chapter 9 makes Islam completely intolerant.
All jihadists know that. How they be convinced that abrogation is not true? There is no Islam without abrogation. The hadiths explain how abrogation works. Anyone who questions abrogation must be executed for blaspheming the hadiths, Mohammed’s sacred Sunna.
Jay Boo says
No
You were doing good until you got to
“How they be convinced that abrogation is not true?”
It is willful ignorance
There is absolutely nothing at the core of Islam
Muhammad is filth
The Qur’an is filth
Islam is filth
Muslims who (Chose) to ne Muslims are filth
Jay Boo says
There is absolutely nothing SACRED at the core of Islam
billybob says
Like – you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.
John Johness says
The part he doesn’t get is that under Islam you do not criticize any Government policies unless you know you have alternative support that can protect you. Islam is not tolerant of discussion, hypothesis, debate as there are no separate facts. How can there be when there is one Allah. The is only discussion allowed is ensuring that the facts are those of Allah and not the djinn.
It is a very common mistake that the Western ‘intellectuals’ make. if they would just live in a tribal full Islamic country they would know. They confuse the words of Muslims as some sort of free discussion. There is none. The words are said for an effect. Hence devout Islam is completely incompatible with science and democracy.
If you want to cut through the Muslim BS – just ask them about the Shia. Then there is zero pretense of rationality..
A Marid says
It is interesting that you mention the Djinn. Very few people outside of the Middle East know what ‘Djinn” are. As legends of various old religions have it, God created not just angels and man, but a third race called djinn, popularly viewed as “genies”. Unlike angels, djinn have free-will like humans. They are also both ethereal and corporeal (living beings that look exactly like humans). They do grant wishes (or more precisely, “answer prayers”) and carry out the Will of God on Earth but their abilities are nothing like those Genies in TV and movies. They follow and use Natural Laws and the Forces of Nature to accomplish their tasks.
They can be good, evil or somewhere in between, just like humans. The most famous of the evil Djinn was called Iblis, or Lucifer. He rebelled against God and humans and was set to rule Hades, the place of punishment for souls. Though often mistaken for a “fallen angel” he is actually a Djinn. He was, in fact, the ‘angel’ Mohammad met on the mountain in 610 AD and is known by the Muslims as “Allah”. To cross reference the relationship of Islam to Satan Worship, look up the tenets of both and compare. The goals and methods are the same. Part of the reason Djinn are spoken of in the Quran is because Iblis ordered Mohammad specifically to convert or murder all of their kind he came across. It was one of Islam’s first genocides and the good among them fled to all corners of the Earth by 700 AD. Thier DNA persists to this day across all of humanity.
Many evil djinn stayed in the Middle East and agreed to become Muslim.This was not for the ‘good’ of Islam: These beings exist to torment humans and use their abilities against the Muslims more frequently than they help them. The “Good Djinn” have been at war with them and the atrocities of the Muslims since Islam began. This is why Muslims fear them. The Djinn, both good and evil, know the real truth.
Islam is not a “Religion of Peace”. It is evil to it’s core because it was created by the Devil himself. But you know this having lived in the Middle East, I am sure. This is information mainly for the greater understanding of other commenters. Your comment is on point and very well stated but most people have never heard of the Djinn. Have a great day!
gravenimage says
“Expert”: Muslims “radicalize” because they find it hard to criticize government
…………………
My God, what crap. Governments in the West are criticized all the time, for reasons good and ill.
With few exceptions, anyone can criticize the government in any way they wish–examples are all over the news, all over the web, and bruited about in the streets, in organized protests and in seminars, readings, cafes, and any other venue people can imagine.
I’ve heard a lot of stupid excuses for Jihad terror, but this is one of the most implausible.
Rob says
So, if Canada had better foreign policies, Muslims would be more compliant and peaceful. In particular:
Iraq wouldn’t have invaded Kuwait.
Iraq wouldn’t have attacked Iran
Saudi wouldn’t have pimped its army to prop up the Bahrain regime.
‘Chemical Ali (Iraq) wouldn’t have gassed the Kurds
and
Syria wouldn’t be bombing the sh*t out of its own citizens.
Ottawa policy makers, you have so much to answer for.
BC says
Howard Pond has explained the jihadis are not ‘radical’. It is erroneous and a complete distortion of the term. See taithfreedom.org
firefox says
BC:
Agreed.
Everyone needs to read this article that speaks to our self-deception of Islam:
Under the article: Jihadis are not radical by Howard Pond.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/introducing-the-term-jack-muslim/
My 2-bits:
There is only one Islam.
And Islam itself is the problem.
Islam is evil in nature and intent.
It is an eternal danger to this world and all within it – even its own.
There is no fundamental good in it.
We have deceived ourselves into thinking that there is, but there is none.
Islamists will support and strengthen our self-deception while we remain ignorant.
Islam will destroy every freedom, liberty, (human) life, culture, country, and economy that it needs to to establish dominace and its barbaric Sharia Law – and it won’t care one bit, as it shouts out allahu-ackbar at every act of terror and every atrocity while it dances and hands out candies to its children in celebration.
I know we MUST awake to this present danger and fully educate ourselves and all we can; and together stand to protect the freedom and liberty that so many paid for with their lives.
We have that moral obligation to our nation and our children.
REQUEST:
Someone please direct me or educate me.
I see our western system of “democracy” as our weakness right now because I do not believe we have anything in place it to prevent other laws (Sharia) from superceding it.
If Muslims in this invasion were to ultimately gain the advantage of numbers and full majority power in government, what is in place to prevent Sharia Law from being fully implimented and established??
In Canada?
In the USA? Bill of Rights? Constitution?
In the European Union?
In individual European countries?
Is there any law/provision that would permit the banning of Sharia Law in a country? Angola did.
Jack Holan says
Yes, the starting premise of the Government’s political and I might say defensive explanation of their role. The understanding of the homegrown terrorist is so limited as to almost make it laughable if the potential for death weren’t there.
Canada fails to explain Afghanistan and Iraq Pre-Coalition of which Canada participated before PM Trudeau that begs the question if Canada no longer is a part of the Coalition; why are the Jihadists committed to planting Jihadists in Canada. Why is it their mission to bring terror to your door-step. Why not listen to the unabashed Imams willing to share with you their true beliefs based on consistent centuries of interpretation of the Quran. Recently an Imam Mazin Abdul-Adhin with the influx of refugees they are in the process of building the Islamic Caliphate bringing Sharia as the governing law just as Mohammed did at Medina. He is articulating what many Muslim Imams and Muftis believe but don’t say in public and I suggest if you have doubt look up the Charter of the Muslim Brotherhood (that Canada says is moderate) read it and you will understand. No one has explained to the youth how Afghanistan was run under the Talaban and Al Queda, not all that different from IS. We haven’t explained secular Iraq run by paranoid Saddam Hussein who gassed the Kurds in the North and murdered hundreds of thousands of Shia in the South in Basra, the Iran/Iraq War that he started and the other Land grab with oil Kuwait. I think this education may help
BC says
As far as I see they do it all the time, but if anybody says a word against Islam they get hauled off by the police
Myxlplik says
Let me ask you a question Mr. Smartie Pants.
Exactly how many terror attacks did Serbian Christains got caught planning or carrying out terror attacks in the West during our bombing campaign against them?
Then answer me how many Albanian Muslim, and Bosnian Muslims have caught planning or carrying out terror attacks.
If the answer is 0 Christan Serb, but many Muslim, then add that information to your now defunct analysis, and answer why your point of view has now changed.
Myxlplik says
Exactly how many terror attacks did Serbian Christains got caught planning or carrying out in the West during our bombing campaign against them?
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jewdog says
Only Western idiots are foolish enough to blame themselves for Islamic radicalism. While Islamic supremacists will never admit a fault, many Westerners, so eager to understand and be sensitive and show what good people they are in a Judeo-Christian sense, will always admit faults. They complement each other well, really, and have a lovely sado-masochistic romance.
A Marid says
The Liberals of the Western Nations want to prove how advanced and multicultural they are and have no idea of what they invite into their midst in the name of “tolerance”. Some “traditionally oppressed” groups were oppressed for a reason.
In the case of the Muslims, accepting their claims of “victimhood” has been a historic mistake. They take over a nation today the same way as they did in 650 AD; by immigration until their numbers are great enough to assert control, starting with charges they are being repressed.
What the West has done in the Middle East is NOT why Muslims are radicalized and attacking all over the civilized world. Muslims are and always have been driven by the commands of their sacred Quran. Their beliefs were not created by the God other religions know. Islam is a religion of war and death, regardless of their protestations otherwise. Their book commands them to kill or enslave all who do not accept Islam as the only religion. It commands them to spread it all over the world by the sword.
They have taken over by starting with immigration before. In the 7th and 8th Centuries, Muslims took over Mecca by immigrating to Medina. As their conquest flowed across the Middle East and North Africa, many fled their swords. Monarchs of what is now Spain accepted these refugees with forcing consolidation of all the nation’s lands through population replacement in mind. Thousands of Moorish soldiers showed up with the refugees in 71o and by 715, all of Spain was Muslim.
Something very similar is happening today because the Neo-Liberals would have everyone believe history is unimportant. Unlike the Christian and jewish faiths, Islam has not reformed in 1400 years. They are still bent on converting the World by the sword. Europe is about to see first hand why Muslims were confined to the Middle East for hundreds of years. It will not be pretty.
The behavior of Muslims is not the Wests fault. Their fault lies in being so charitable and trusting that they deny evil exists when it is reaching for their throats.