“Migrants, they added, should be met ‘with openness, with the spirit of love of neighbor.'” How grand. Meanwhile, the migrants might meet these German Christian leaders with a somewhat different spirit.
Doubt that could ever happen in Germany? Why? Ahmad al-Mohammed and one other of the jihadis who murdered 130 people in Paris in November 2015 had just entered Europe as refugees.
In February 2015, the Islamic State boasted it would soon flood Europe with as many as 500,000 refugees. And the Lebanese Education Minister said in September 2015 that there were 20,000 jihadis among the refugees in camps in his country. Meanwhile, 80% of migrants who have come to Europe claiming to be fleeing the war in Syria aren’t really from Syria at all.
So why are they claiming to be Syrian and streaming into Europe, and now the U.S. as well? An Islamic State operative gave the answer when he boasted in September 2015, shortly after the migrant influx began, that among the flood of refugees, 4,000 Islamic State jihadis had already entered Europe. He explained their purpose: “It’s our dream that there should be a caliphate not only in Syria but in all the world, and we will have it soon, inshallah.” These Muslims were going to Europe in the service of that caliphate: “They are going like refugees,” he said, but they were going with the plan of sowing blood and mayhem on European streets. As he told this to journalists, he smiled and said, “Just wait.”
On May 10, 2016, Patrick Calvar, the head of France’s DGSI internal intelligence agency, said that the Islamic State was using migrant routes through the Balkans to get jihadis into Europe.
But remember: migrants should be met “with openness, with the spirit of love of neighbor.”
“Leave them; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)
“German Christian leaders renew call for openness to migrants,” Catholic Culture, May 19, 2016 (thanks to Lookmann):
Cardinal Reinhard Marx, the chairman of the German Bishops’ Conference, has joined with German Lutheran and Eastern Orthodox leaders in urging Germany to be open to migrants.
In a joint statement, the Christian leaders expressed alarm at the “radicalization and brutalization of speech and thought” against migrants and called for respect for the legal right of asylum seekers to an impartial hearing.
Migrants, they added, should be met “with openness, with the spirit of love of neighbor.”

Kuffar says
Let us see how you feel as your daughters legs are forced to a new openness by 10 “peaceful muslims”…
Polk1970 says
Migrants, they added, should be met ‘with openness, with the spirit of love of neighbor.’”
And instead of bread and salt,their daughters and wives.
Hindu American says
According to Wikipedia, “on September 5, 2015, Cardinal Marx along with Lutheran bishop Heinrich Bedford-Strohm, members of the clergy and crowds of Germans enthusiastically welcomed Syrian refugees coming to Germany at the Munich train station”.
I am sure that the good cardinal is well aware of what happened in cities and towns in Germany and Switzerland on New Year’s Eve 2015-16.
I am sure the cardinal is also aware of the attacks in Paris on the night of Friday 13 November 2015.
Yet, he still insists on “showing the other cheek”?
Tommy Tunez says
Cardinal Marx is suffering from Liberalism. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
linnte says
Absolutely boggling isn’t it?
Indian says
Just imagine this–there are Yezidi women fighting the ISIS and these able-bodied Muslims ran away from their nations to land citizenship–which we find difficult to get.
There is strife in many nations.Are the citizens of those nations eligible?Humanitarian grounds were cited as the main reason why they are accepted.The real reasons are different–very practical ones.Now the Muslims want to create a white Muslim race.Their job has become very easy.Most such ideas are Leftists.A very dangerous mistake this refugee status.
Concerned INDIAN says
Stupid people and their romantic ideas.They deserve to be betrayed and not the innocent Germans or other Europeans.
Sometimes,I feel we in India are safe because of the Shiv Sena and Bajrang Dal.Mind well,nobody has got the banned,though the Opposition always talks on those lines.They all acknowledge privately( or so it seems) they are indispensable .
Shane says
Idiots like this guy don’t deserve to live; they are allowing a deadly plague into their society that has no cure. These liberals twits are traitors to the religion, country, and civilization.
carpediadem says
What makes you think it’s only females subject to rape and assault?
And did you have to put it in such a graphic manner when you know perfectly well that priest is not going to read this blog ever?
So Christians love to commit suicide these days. How much funding do they get for promoting this measure?
old white guy says
I am quite sure that Christ did not say commit suicide by accepting evil with love and openness. I do not see that in my KJV Bible.
John says
Matthew 5:39 (K J V) I say unto you, That ye resist not evil
Matthew 5:44 (K J V) I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you
Trico says
by 10 “peaceful muslims”
10 is the magic number. If a woman is raped or otherwise has sex with 10 Muslim men, she automatically becomes Muslim.
I don’t know if the same applies to a man who undergoes such a “penetrating conversion”.
carpediadem says
Really? No wonder gang rape is so popular then!
Myxlplik says
As a big fan of German engineering (last year I owned the trifecta, a VW, Mercedes, and a BMW all at once. Down to two now.) might I suggest the Germans just cut their own heads off? I’m sure they can come up with a better way than Muslims, so there really is no need to use immigration as a form of self mutilation with all that ingenuity right there already.
maghan says
That strange German behavior is all about assuaging that “Hitler guilt”. Yet Muslim Arabs openly proclaim that “Hitler didn’t finish the job”. Yet they are still loved and coddled in Germany and other parts of the West.
Those so-called refugees in Germany can do anything to the point of resembling that doting mother who tells her children “I will always love you even if you murder me”. Murder, rape, defecating in pools and in public, masturbating in pools, theft, etc.–all OK in the name of Arab Muslim love.
The human brain has many compartments. This kind of behavior springs from the part prompts stupid and irrational behavior.
JawsV says
They’re not “migrants” they’re MUSLIMS. These German Christian “leaders” are traitors to their country.
Polk1970 says
Deutschland Unter Islam
Westman says
It seems strange that “Christian” leaders are calling for “respect for the legal right of asylum seekers to an impartial hearing” when so many Muslim migrants are very partially lying about their country of origin and tossing their passports. Most are not even from Syria and have no problem with deception.
And how about those sweet male Muslims that are terrorizing citizens, truckers, and motorists at Calais, France? Where are the Christians that, based on their affinity and respect, should be coming to get them?
Please, don’t tell me the only muscles these leaders excercise on the migrants behalf is related to speech? It is? Oh…
Andra says
so many Muslim migrants are very partially lying about their country of origin and tossing their passports.
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Official Germany loves those “refugees” who lose their passports. If they don´t lose them themselves the government does it for them – there are just another some thousand asylum seekers´passports disappeared at the Bundesamt für Migration. They prefer those who don´t have IDs because then it is easier not to send them back.
SpiritOf1683 says
Germany’s future is looking increasingl;y like that dystopian future set out in Tom Kratman’s Caliphate. In that novel, the Sharia gangs were around and disfiguring and raping girls who weren’t covered up in 2024. It seems like this vision is now running eight years ahead of schedule. What a horrendous price they’re paying for murdering their Jews in the 1930s and 1940s, then letting these in 60 or 70 years latetr, and unlike the passive Jews, these Muslim newcomers are aggressive.
Andra says
In GB, France and Sweden the Sharia gangs are already in work.
Indian says
Problem is also with youngsters.There are many young women in the GB.and the U.S.A who have married some of the Muslim men and readily converted to Islam.It’s the dream of Muslims to produce a white Islamic race.This whole migrant situation is dangerous for Germany and other nations.Whatever the reasons cited to let them in,everybody seemed to have forgotten that young Yezidi women are fighting the ISIS and these strong men are gatecrashing Europe.
One German acquaintance told me bluntly–Europe is gone.
Zeke Zike says
Wearing a roman collar (Priest), red suit (Cardinal), or a white dress (The Dope/Pope) means little. As a “Recovering Catholic” and Presbyterian Seminary grad, it is my opinion that many members of the Clergy are just “Religious Politicians ” / Useful Idiots.
Same-same for many Evangelical ministers.
Zeke Zike says
Why doesn’t this bozo go and try to build a Church in Saudi Arabia?
Christianblood says
German Church leaders, instead of seeking ways to convert some of the millions of muslims that came into their midst to Christianity are fighting for new mosques for the muslims and they are even changing some of their churches into mosques for them:
http://www.ibtimes.com/german-muslim-mosque-controversy-christian-leaders-fight-right-build-islamic-worship-2370608
Trico says
How do you say “Suicide” in German?
linnte says
Jihad
Trico says
Yes, Jihad works in a lot of languages.
Georg says
willkommen
Kepha says
@Trico: Selbstmord.
@Christianblood: I’m not surprised that the liberalized so-called Protestants and the post-Vatican II Romanists are caving. They’re all Pelagian to the bone, and see no need for the cross.
Christianblood says
Kepha
what is “Pelagian”?
Mark Swan says
belief that denies original sin: the belief of the heretical Christian monk Pelagius that people can earn salvation through their own efforts, without relying on the grace of God, and the rejection of the concept of original sin
Christianblood says
Mark Swan
Okay. Thanks for the answer!
خَليفة says
“Recovering Catholic”?
You must be a CA member. “Catholic Anonymous ” – don’t think it’s a real organization, but it should be.
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
We presently have a really un-Catholic ‘Pope’. But that doesn’t mean that we Catholics have to leave the Faith!
For heavens’ sake: We’ve had Obama for 8 years. How many of us have renounced American citizenship? See where I’m going here?
NO branch of Christianity/Judaism is free of the idiot strain. We in the Church have formed a growing, strong and militant ‘trad Latin Rite’ branch of the Church. Christ promised that ‘the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it [the Catholic Church]’. When you’re in a ship in a typhoon, and there’s a drunk in the wheelhouse, you don’t dive overboard.
Rufolino says
Kathy, yes, Jesus did say that the gates of Hell can’t withstand the church, but he didn’t say ‘the Roman Catholic Church’. There are real Christians in the RC Church -and some real Christians outside it, I’m sure you’ll agree. The true Church is made of true Christians.
Christianblood says
Rufolino
Well said!
Mark Swan says
Jesus Christ said, “I will build My church, and the gates of Hades [the grave] shall not prevail against it” (Matthew 16:18). Which church did Jesus build, and what happened to it?
When the Bible speaks of the Church, it is never speaking of a building—nor of a human organization incorporated under secular authority. The word in the Greek language that is translated “church” in English is ekklesia. It is derived from two root words in Greek and literally means “called out” or “called from.”
However, the “called out” aspect of ekklesia is fundamental to understanding the Church.
Jesus made it plain that one cannot come to Him, and be part of His Church, without being called by the Father (John 6:44). Only those who respond to the Father’s call, through repentance and baptism, will receive the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38), and it is only through the Holy Spirit of God that we become part of the Church that Jesus built (Romans 8:9; 1 Corinthians 12:13).
One of God’s final warnings to His people is a call to “come out” of Babylon (Revelation 18:4). The saints of God are not to participate in that corrupt, end-time culture’s sins, so they will not partake of the divine punishments that “Babylon” will receive.
DFD says
Mark Swan says: “Jesus Christ said, “I will build My church, and the gates of Hades [the grave] shall not prevail against it” (Matthew 16:18). Which church did Jesus build…”
Hi Mark,
very interesting and informative post, thank you. It’s one of those worth reading upon, and so I shall.
somehistory says
Mark Swan,
Very clearly stated. And aren’t we thankful to know, and can fully trust His words.
Mark Swan says
Hi DFD….Hi somehistory…take care Friends
Resist says
Big Nails in our coffins
vicki says
Georg says
“Migrants, they added, should be met ‘with openness, with the spirit of love of neighbor.'”
Yea, well is that historically how the migrants and their descendants have “met” with Europeans? No. So, it’s only reasonable that Europeans determine a threshold past which they are not willing to bring in people who are so often resistant, if not hostile, to their way of life.
I’d like to renew a call for this guy to shut up and go do something useful.
Sile Reddin says
Yes , totally agree. They should be more concerned about Christianity being savaged in the ME instead of welcoming those who will bring it’s end.
Bob says
And savaged in Germany,which these clergymen haven’t been wide awakenough to notice, it seems…Christians being murdered in the the ‘refugee’ camps by peace-loving muslims, for example. Of course, it may be too worldly to read daily newspapers.
Dom107 says
Most Christians are only nominal as the teachings of Jesus (if he existed) as in the Gospels (much of which is contrived and invented) would have led to all of Europe being taken over and forceably converted by the Muslims to Islam.We fought two world wars with Germany another nominally Christian country so both were not following pacifistic Christianity as we are “taught” to believe in the Gospels.Relgion is clearly a massive self delusion still practiced a la carte by some for their own purposes and inflicted on innocent children.Science and particularly Cosmology,Astronomy and Astrobiology strive and achieve true knowledge.Ethics and morality is intrinsic to the human species to ensure the survival of the species so we don’t need priests or clerics of any religion to guide us.
The migrant crisis is a great danger to the well-being of Europe and the world made worst by the aggressive,intolerant and dark age beliefs of the majority of these migrants.Resettlement must be made only in Islamic countries some of which are oil rich and could afford to have them
They will destabilise Europe and the USA if more are allowed in.The process must be also be reversed to reduce numbers already here.
Naive people whether clerics or not should be ignored or ridiculed including Mad Merkel who is a born again Lutheran Christian and not fit for office in the real world
Wellington says
Christians in dumb mode again, which is actually an insult to true Christianity because, while Christianity does have a pacifist element in its intellectual architecture (contra Islam hugely here), enough so that many Christian thinkers have had to go to fairly great lengths and jump through at least a few metaphorical hoops to put forward the “just war” doctrine, and enough so that a plethora of Christian sects have arisen over the centuries counseling pacifism, for instance the Quakers, Amish and Mennonites, there is, in the final analysis, nothing in the theological blueprint of Christianity which calls for characterizing malevolence as something good or which calls for societal suicide. But this is exactly what dopey Christians of sundry denominations are doing right now in the West, as exampled here by certain German Christians, when they exculpate Islam and Islam’s followers.
Might as well get rid of blame of Nazism and Nazis or Marxism and Marxists since Islam is a totalitarian ideology as these other two are. Oh yeah, beyond dumb and Christianity has never required dumb.
Unfortunately, many Christians are now in sappy and extra dumb mode, going all gooey and kissy/face, huggy/bear where Muslims coming to the West is the issue. And these Muslims are not refugees nearly so much as they are invaders, not ready to assimilate (how can they since they’re Muslims?) but rather to do all possible to make such lands they immigrate to eventually part of an ever expanding dar-al-Islam while reducing the dar-al-harb. One knows all this by now or should know it. Many do, including many Christians. But many don’t, including many Christians.
Kepha says
I’m for compassion to migrants, too–although I keep the proverbial powder dry for those who turn out to be invaders. Just war theory and all.
Mark Swan says
There are such “social values” today in Europe, America, and Australia only because during those thousand years the Christians of Europe possessed the warlike power to do what the Christians of Asia and Africa had failed to do – that is, to beat back the Moslem invader.
– Theodore “Teddy” Roosevelt
Rufolino says
Thank you for putting that so well, Wellington !
DFD says
To: Wellingtin, Kepha & Rufolino,
Well put Wellington. Kepha, they are practically *all invaders*, or their tacit supporters. Exceptions may be in the few hundreds, no more. These people are Muhajiroun, that means undercover or fifth columnist Mujahadeen.
There are plenty of real Christians in Germany. Even among the clergy…
Here’s a real one:
https://youtu.be/IM5mnztYn4o
Mockingjay says
“While Christianity does have a pacifist element in its intellectual architecture (contra Islam hugely here), (…) there is, in the final analysis, nothing in the theological blueprint of Christianity which calls for characterizing malevolence as something good or which calls for societal suicide”.
Wellington, I respectfully disagree.
I consider the doctrine of “loving your enemy” in Christianity VERY problematic, even if it doesn’t, as you rightfully say, “characterize malevolence as something good” – it surely doesn’t encourage self-defence in the face of malevolence in ANY way, it even EXPLICITLY encourages utter defenselesness against the one who is hurting you (turning the other cheek…) – or your society for that matter.
On top of that comes the idea of forgiving the worst of perpetrators – EVEN if they do NOT repent – and to top it off, there is of course also the DUTY of every Christian to be kind and generous to people in need (- and we all know who these “people in need” are these days…).
Now, I am in NO way anti-Christian and I DO recognize the beauty of these Christian teachings , which TRULY make it a “religion of love” – but I also consider these teachings to be HUGELY problematic and ultimately SELF-DESTRUCTIVE when applying them to the real world.
The Catholic Church seems to think they have no other choice than to follow these teachings of Christ blindly, regardless of any rational assesment of reality.
I’m no atheïst, but I must say that I am with Sam Harris on this one: religion and rationality are often mutually excluding.
Wellington says
Loving your enemy, Mockingjay, does not translate into not fighting against evil. One can love and still oppose at the same time. Reconsider. And don’t forget, there have been many “fighting Christians” over the ages. The Crusades alone prove this.
And, as you might know, I am not a Christian. I am possessed of no religious bone in my body, but I don’t think Christianity is a suicide pact any more than is the American Constitution (although leftists aplenty would have it so regarding the latter) though I do concede that the pacifist element in Christianity “muddles” things in this respect and is, quite frankly, one of many errors I perceive in Christianity (another being eternal perdition if one does not accept Christian tenets upon faith when, in fact, a rational mind should have the right to dispute some or all without eternal damnation looming over its head).
In any case, Christianity, with all its defects, is not the problem for mankind. Islam is. In fact, though I am not a Christian, I readily admit that mankind would be infinitely better off if every Muslim woke up tomorrow a devout follower of Christ. Surely, you don’t dispute this.
Mockingjay says
Wellington ( if you read this) – I completely agree with you of course that Christianity in itself is NOT the problem and that the world would indeed be “infinitely better off” if Christianity were to replace Islam completely tomorrow (even staunch atheïsts agree on that!).
Also, I am not intent on arguing that Christians are or have been unable to oppose, defend themselves from, or conquer their enemies, but I DO think that you would have to look to other parts of the Bible – the old testament – to justify any such actions.
I just really can’t see how you could justify ANY kind of self-defence with the teachings of Jesus. And I feel this “pacifist element” of Christianity is a morally weakening influence in the West (but, to be fair, only one of MANY such influences that originate from other, non-religious sources) – when we cannot afford ANY kind of weakness against such a dangerous enemy as Islam.
Mark Swan says
Remember how, when America was attacked at Pearl Harbor back in 1941, President Franklin Roosevelt concluded his impassioned speech to the Congress of the United States by stating, “We shall gain the inevitable triumph, so help us God!” The idea of a real God was much more prevalent at that time, and was instilled in the moral fabric of the entire nation—through schools, families and other community institutions. All of that is quickly disappearing.
When World War II began, even those who disliked President Franklin Delano Roosevelt came together in a powerful sense of unity. For he was our President and we knew we had to hang together, love our nation and pray to God that He would deliver us from this terrible threat posed by the Axis powers, and We fought as a whole Nation.
Today, America’s political leaders—and many leading educators and figures in the media—tend to “waffle” here and there about anything patriotic. President Barack Obama has even been apologizing—over and over—for what America has done in the past! America’s leaders appear to be ashamed of the great blessings that God has given their nation, and of the victories that He gave in World War I, World War II and through many other terrible trials. Many Americans have lost their national sense of purpose, their deep patriotism—and their deep respect for the God who made all of this possible…We can see this very clearly now.
Jaladhi says
Migrants are future jihadis who will bring bloodshed to Europe, UK, USA, and Canada. This is nothing but Islamic invasion disguised as migrants, refugees and so on. Why doesn’t the West recognize it for what it is.
roger woodhouse says
The ‘west’ cannot do anything to stop this invasion as the west is gripped by ‘political correctness’ dominated by lefty luvvies who themselves have been dominated by the feminazis.Britain is finished as a nation .We have been taken over not by the EU but by a creeping sickness called ‘total apathy’Our leaders have handed all responsiility to the socialists in Europe but still clings on to all the trappings power in which the delusion of ‘democracy’ is maintained in Westminster
Cecilia Ellis says
The following information is provided in an article which may be found at the following Zenit link: https://zenit.org/articles/pope-migrants-and-host-nations-should-be-gift-to-each-other/
In an address given this morning to new diplomats from six nations — Estonia, Malawi, Namibia, the Seychelles, Thailand and Zambia — Pope Francis stated:
“For those suffering the tragedy of violence and forced migration, we must be resolute in making their plight known to the world community, so that as they lack the strength or ability to cry out, their voice may be heard in our own.”
Pope Francis further stated:
“While our initiatives on behalf of peace should help people to remain in their homelands, this present hour urges us to assist migrants and those caring for them.”
Additionally, the following extract from the article is provided:
“The Pope suggested that a ‘culture of dialogue’ would promote a type of integration whereby both the traditions of migrants and the culture of the receiving communities is preserved, ‘all the while enriching both.’
This is essential. If misunderstanding and fear prevail something of ourselves dies, our cultures, history and traditions are weakened, and our own peace is compromised. When on the other hand, we foster dialogue and solidarity, both individually and collectively, it is then that we experience the best of humanity and secure an enduring peace for all, as intended by our Creator.”
It appears that Pope Francis’ “mutual enrichment” narrative in “a culture of dialogue” is failing In European countries where the traditions of migrants do not merit preservation.
linnte says
Jesus command to “Go and spread the Gosple” didn’t mean for the salvation one teaches about to be undermined by a doctrine of hate. That is counter productive. This article is mind baffling!
Kepha says
Of course the command to spread the Gospel does not mean that we must let it be undermined by a doctrine of hate (such as Islam). I believe that most of us who bring up the Great Commission of Matthew 28:19-20 on this site do so to underscore a fundamental difference between Christianity and Islam, Bible and Qur’an. Christ commands proclamation and teaching; Muhammad commands war.
Given the theological liberalism and relativism of most established churches, I doubt that people like Bp. Marx or his [pseudo]-“Evangelische” counterpark have any room for challenging Muslims to turn to Jesus Christ or presenting the Gospel as divine truth.
Nigel GFF says
“with openness, with the spirit of love of neighbor.”
Yeah, but, but ….. neighbours have their own home.
Talk over the fence but you’re not movin’ in with me mate.
(I must check definition of neighbour).
WWJS
Angemon says
Oh, great – a three-pronged attack…
Michael says
If the governments of the west were urgently trying to rescue the genuinely persecuted religious minorities from extinction, this sort of talk would have some value. As it is, this partakes of the bitterest kind of irony.
common sense says
The Christian code of morals and ethics only really works amongst Christians, Jews, Hindus and Bhuddists and maybe just about every other religion. Our souls are on the same page.
Marx is a commercial pollitician wearing the cloth who thinks showing love will quell the darkness of Satan. What is he gaining here? Is he insane? A fool? Corrupt? All 3?
When will these fools learn? Islamoscum use our tolerance to their advantage. Sharia enforers are already walking their beat and banging their drum. More rape, assualt and death will follow. A fundamental change will soon take place in Germany one way or the other.
Sam Hawkins says
The answer is, he is corrupt. But not, as you might think, by Saudi bribes. No, it’s German taxpayer money he is after. Germany has earmarked 93 billion euros to be spent on illegal Muslim immigrants over the next few years, an amount that is already guaranteed to be exceeded by actual spending.
A big, big chunk of that 93 billion is going to “Caritas”. Caritas is the welfare organization of the Catholic church in Germany. They run refugee centers, hospitals, employ social workers, provide outpatient services, et cetera et cetera. It’s a huge windfall for Caritas. Cardinal Marx will make sure to get his grubby hands on that slice of the pie, and woe betide anyone who stands in his way.
common sense says
Good info thanks. Sucks! 93 bil from where donations? Taxes? Both? Guess I should make time for my own research.
We hear nothing of Christians being persecuted or left out. Muslims are special somehow.
common sense says
Scratch that…”earmarked” implies taxation which is lunacy in that economy. ISIS even goes out of their way to tell us that they are among the refugee’s (illegal immigrants to be sure). So Germans can pay for their own upcoming miseries.
Kepha says
Actually, the Christian code of morals can and does work on Muslims. Among Muslim immigrants in the States, there has been some movement away from Islam to Christianity; and those newer Evangelical congregations popping up in Turkey and Algeria are the work of returned Guest Workers. I’m sure such people weren’t won to Christ by people calling them “raghead”. This is one reason why I pray for my Muslim students and treat them the same way i treat the rest of their classmates.
Paul says
I’m all for accepting migrants – just the Christian ones or those
who are persecuted for apostasy. Those who aren’t even affiliated
with ISIS are still dragging hell with them. The ‘Christian’ leaders
and representatives must know this. I’m sick and tired of these
Judases. You actually get more honesty from the so called
‘radical’ muslims.
abad says
First of all those Muslims trying to break into Europe (much the same way robbers break into banks) are neither migrants nor refugees.
They are Jihadis, directed by their leaders in Syria to conquer the western world once again like they did in medieval times.
Michael Johnson says
No these murderous barbarians should be met with baseball bats and ran back to the terrorist strongholds they come from
somehistory says
When a person kills themselves with their actions, it is one thing. When one puts other lives at risk, and kills other people with their actions, it is a whole different issue. Kill yourself and you’re dead. Kill others and face judgment for murder.
Taking a long look at this dude…and he is not speaking as a Christian because true Christians are expected to be *wise*…there is no mistaking the look in his eyes. It is much like the moslims he is saying should be welcomed. He has just as much evidence as the rest of us. moslims hate, and in their hate, they kill…Christians. (Matthew 10:16 “I’m sending you out as sheep among wolves. Be wise as serpents, yet innocent as doves.”)
Jesus Christ spoke frankly to those who opposed Him with lies and violence…He called them snakes and vipers and whitewashed graves full of death (Matthew 23)/ Did He then tell His disciples to *welcome these snakes with open arms*?
Jesus even said not to share “pearls” with swine or “what is holy” with dogs. Would He tell His followers to bring killers into their homes, knowing that they will kill the host? (Matthew 7:6)
“To the one given much, much will be required of hm (Luke 12:48)..”
The guy has been given a lot of authority. He has a lot of people listening to him. And he’s putting those who do in danger. He is also putting those innocent ones who can’t control government actions in danger.
All of the little girls, young boys and young women who will become early victims. And all those who are killed by the moslims he is saying should be welcomed in as though they are lying wounded on the road.
This is not the situation for a “good Samaritan.”
ebonystone says
Priests and ministers are supposed to be shepherds and guardians of their flocks. These guys seemmore interested in the wolves than in their sheep.
Nigel GFF says
Indeed.
Wise up you shepherds or get off the seat. Your flock is forced into self-defence.
celticwarriorcanada says
More suicidal pious idiots !!! Does it ever end !
Peggy says
We are quick to condemn Muslims for not questioning and rebelling against their Imams. What are we doing to send messages to our “imams”? We are just allowing them to spew this rubbish day in day out and all we do is post our dissatisfaction on sites like this. Our “Imams” don’t visit sites like this one.
We have to start writing to them, boycotting our churches and letting them know why.
We have to rebel in a real way or we will be just as much slaves of our clergy.
Our religion doesn’t tell us to go out and kill unbelievers but it also doesn’t tell us that we can’t question what our leaders are telling us. We have to only trust in the word of God not the parasite working against us telling us what that is.
So far we still have the freedom to rebel against our clergy without being killed. All that will change if we don’t stop them now.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes. If the leaders of the ‘flock’ are going wrong, then sometimes it’s up to the poor old sheep to *refuse* to go down the path they know to be dangerous, and to butt and baa and dig their hooves in.
It is *tragic* that amongst these ‘leaders’ in Germany there are *Orthodox* clergy.
*They* of all people should know why Muslims of any kind should NOT be permitted inside the gates of Europe. Should never have been permitted. Should be strongly encouraged to *leave*.
Because *all* the Orthodox churches have suffered terribly at Muslim hands throughout much of their history… and *their* main historic centre, the glorious church of the Hagia Sophia, the Holy Wisdom, in Constantinople, was seized by the invading Mohammedans in 1453, when the last of Byzantium was attacked and overthrown and the most beautiful church in all of Christendom was turned into a mosque.
The mohammedans still squat and gloat and strut on the Hagia Sophia, the Mother church of all of Eastern Christendom; no Christian is permitted to publicly and audibly pray there, and although Ataturk and his successors turned it from a mosque into a museum (and tourist trap), under Erdogan as Turkey rapidly Goes Jihad there are many Mohammedan jihad gang bosses clamouring for it to be turned back into a mosque.
Anyone who has read Bat Yeor’s “The Dhimmi: Jews and Christians under Islam” and “The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam”, knows why Orthodox Christians living in countries still currently majority-non-Muslim *ought* to be the most vociferous opponents of any influx of Muslims into those countries… but also knows, sadly, that *some* are likely to be afflicted by a sort of ‘Dhimmi’ mindset… that they and every other Christian leader needs to *lose*, pronto.
*The* Christian writer who has built on and extended Bat Yeor’s work on Dhimmitude is an Aussie Anglican priest, Dr Mark Durie. His book “The Third Choice: Islam, Dhimmitude and Freedom” distils Bat Yeor’s work into terms that the average non-academic reader can understand, and adds extra insight and data from his own additional researches. It should be on *every* clergy bookshelf – first world and third world, Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox. Together with the companion booklet, ‘Liberty to the Captives’, which discusses, notably, how to ‘deprogram’ or ‘exorcise’ those afflicted by Dhimmitude or Dhimmi Syndrome. His other book, “Which God?’ also needs to be circulated amongst Christian clergy and laity – in order to thoroughly rid people of the dangerous ‘we all worship one god/ people of the book/ Abrahamic religions’ schtick that Muslim snake-oil salesmen on the ‘interfaith’ circuit have been using to sucker not only gullible and naive Christians but also not a few gullible and naive *Jews*.
SpiritOf1683 says
Before this century is out, Europeans will discover, much to their cost, why their ancestors spent almost 1,200 years trying to drive Islam back, from 722 AD right through to say 1913. The likes of Pelayo, Martel, Hunyadi, Sobieski, Prince Eugene of Savoy and Ypsilanti (the Greek War of Independence in the 1820s) spring to mind.
Demsci says
Yes, unbelievable, what these church leaders think and say, very Myopic, unhistorical, or one-sided historical, with all this guilt-feelings about their own Western culture. But nonetheless throwing it away carelessly,
Fessitude, I admire your deep, flawless “searing” logic, your courage to go to conclusions where the evidence leads you, regardless how horrible. I peruse your blogspot now and then for a few hours. I for one need you to stay exactly as you are, you being a good watchdog, good guardian, early warner etc.
Despite me being different from you and more optimistic. There is among many others, a groundswell on the internet that calls for what Tony Robbins describes as “Do not focus on where you don’t want to go, but focus on where you want to go”. Don’t just react (which is normal and fine) but also formulate what is better than what you despise and fear.
There is also the Pareto-principle; 20 % of people (or other things) have 80 % of the influence.
The Muslims also suffer from Pareto; 80 % of them is only for 20 % effective. And, like all totalitarians their leaders will make the dumb mistakes Nazi- and communist leaders made. If anything they are even more foolish than these Christian preachers, and the 20 % awake Westerners can be also rather wise and powerful. And they too often know what they are for, and their ideals/ dream border on the religious, with many spiritual components, so can on principle offer Muslims a powerful alternative. As opposed to them giving the advice to just give up their to them wonderful and meaningful religion.
Islam has many superior alternatives, but Muslims perhaps know in big numbers what they are for and want to promote. So, with your logic and knowledge of Islam, both immense, what is it that is BETTER THAN ISLAM that our best 20 % should promote??
The full democratic system, with it’s 5 pillars?! The best values of the enlightenment?
And do you know the number of websites that promote happiness? As measurable and attainable through steps and good habits, by both individuals AND societies? And Happiness is what many aspire too, for themselves and their society, even Muslims,
And Islam and Happiness are very poor suited for each other, it seems to me. Happiness correlates far more with good democratic values, like freedom of speech, autonomy of individuals and many more.
Perhaps 20 % or so of mankind will in the 21st century go for a two-pronged approach; By all means, the intelligence- and defense-strategy AND the more pro-active BETTER THAN ISLAM-Alternative description and promotion.
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
Peggy: I don’t know the fullness of what the Protestant churches have done, tho’ I have friends who say they’ve been very vocal to their pastors.
We Catholics have been very active, and long before this present Pope. We’ve been forming the traditional wing of the Church. We have our own schools, seminaries, and nuns and priests. We criticize the Pope, our priests preach from the pulpit that islam is satanic, and-most important of all-we DON’T support, for example, the USCCB (U.S. Council of Catholic Bishops); or indeed any ‘Catholic’ diocesan ‘charities’.
Sam Harris, above, cited the horrific ‘Caritas’. We give them not one PENNY. Money talks. And we’re screaming.
Peggy says
I am happy to hear that.
Fred says
http://www.torontosun.com/2016/05/19/isis-executes-25-men-by-lowering-them-in-a-massive-vat-of-acid Terrible fate.
somehistory says
That’s demonic. No rational human with any kind of conscience could dream up such things to do to other humans. This ghastly treatment is straight from satan the devil. Or perhaps his demon followers are competing among themselves to see which one can come up with the most horrific evil, and then passing the ideas along to the moslims under their control.
SpiritOf1683 says
Its straight from the Koran. Had Sulphuric or Nitric acid existed back then, you can bet Mohammed would have done that to those he perceived as his enemies. Muslims aren’t averse to splasshing faces with acid.
somehistory says
Like I said, “demonic.” Straight from satan the devil and his demon crew.
Michael O'Neill says
Imagine turning up at an airport and security thought there was even the slightest chance you might hijack the plane. There’s no chance you’d be allowed on board.
Yet among the millions of migrants flooding into Europe, it’s a certainty thousands of them are gangsters, rapists, murderers and jihadis. And they are all waved straight through.
So why is security tighter for airplanes than it is for our continent?
SpiritOf1683 says
And very soon we will see what will become of Europe. How ironic that those whose ancestors were so eager to partake in ridding it of the Jews, who had done them no harm, would welcome those whose boot will one day become firmly pressed onto their necks, and the necks of their children.
God Almighty says
How do these asinine, sanctimonious bastards sleep at night, with that kind of none thinking that dates back to these reprobates still living in the 7 th Century.
grace says
Yeah, because as soon as they’re settled in to collect their first unemployment, they will be complaining about the flag, the national anthem, the girs’ clothing and the lack of mosques and respect for kkhhhallah.
Oscar Lazlo says
Much as it pains me to say it, the Christian ideal of winning over your enemies with love is not going to work. In the New Testament world there was a certain shared overlap between the cultures of the Roman Empire, but Muslim culture is just too alien. They view the open hand of Christianity as contemptible weakness to use against us. Islam, like the armies of Satan in Revelation, must be met with force.
Mo says
@ Oscar Lazlo
“Much as it pains me to say it, the Christian ideal of winning over your enemies with love is not going to work. In the New Testament world there was a certain shared overlap between the cultures of the Roman Empire, but Muslim culture is just too alien. They view the open hand of Christianity as contemptible weakness to use against us. Islam, like the armies of Satan in Revelation, must be met with force.”
It doesn’t have to be an “either/or” sort of thing. Christianity doesn’t teach that. One can show love to Muslims individuals while still using common sense in matters of national security. The Bible nowhere teaches either individuals or nations to just let themselves be destroyed by those who mean them harm. Liberals claim the Bible teaches it. But liberals have never read the Bible. If they’ve read any at all, it’s only been random bits and pieces here and there that they think fits their preconceived notions.
The Bible does not teach individuals should be doormats for the abuse of others. The Bible does not teach that nations should just sit there and let themselves be destroyed by people who intend to do them harm.
duh swami says
Most Christians are sane, but the clergy is often screw-ball…The priesthood was designed to make money without working for it…So it’s natural to welcome those who also want free money and other stuff…
Jay Boo says
No worries Germans
Soon Germany be mass producing a million Leftists in lederhosen after tinkling with their Islamic emmisions and reprogramming.
Jay Boo says
—- Sprechen sie langsamer bitte
Please speak more slowly — Muslim friends.
It sounds as is you are asking Germany to pull down its panties.
Surely you must mean religion of peace.
Eu says
More muslims near us please… religion of pieces in action : http://ahtribune.com/world/north-africa-south-west-asia/915-isis-nitric-acid.html
Mo says
Where is this same “Christian” attitude towards religions minorities being slaughtered by Muslims?
It’s astounding to me how nothing is EVER said by these types of people regarding Christians, Yazidis, Hindus, Buddhists, or any other religious minorities who are being persecuted and brutalized by Muslims waging jihad.
Michael Laudahn says
There’s no fool like an old fool. Look at this list titled ‘A very normal day in a swedish courthouse’,
http://snaphanen.dk/2016/05/19/en-helt-vanlig-dag-i-en-svensk-domstol/
You won’t need any scandinavian knowledge to understand that the defendants there aren’t swedes (or other ordinary folks, for that matter).
sham says
WEST NEED PURIFICATION FROM MUSLIM:
TODAY SOME OF THE WESTERN LEADERS AGREED THAT ISLAMIC LAW/PEOPLE ONLY MAKE THEM PEACEFUL,DECENT,HUMAN,KINDNESS ONE ,THAT WAY THEY AGREED ISLAMIC MIGRATION THOUGHT THEIR COUNTRIES,THEY REALIZE THAT AS LONG PEOPLE FOLLOWING ISLAM ,THEY WILL SPREAD PEACE & HUMANITY:
TODAY WHAT WAS THE STATUS OF WESTERN WORLD:(I AM NOT LIKE A FOOLISH SPENCER SPREADING LIES WITHOUT EVIDENCE ,I AM INCLUDING VALID EVIDENCE ‘MY CLAIMS ‘ NON ISLAMIC SOURCE SAYS)
Total crimes: Countries Compared
RANK COUNTRIES AMOUNT
1 United States 11.88 million
2 United Kingdom 6.52 million
3 Germany 6.51 million
4 France 3.77 million
5 Russia 2.95 million
6 Japan 2.85 million
nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Total-crimes
Murders per Year by Country
1. India 37,170
2. Russia 28,904
3. Colombia 26,539
4. South Africa 21,995
5. Mexico 13,829
6. United States 12,658
juancole.com/
UN Rape Statistics:
RANK
1 United States of America 93883
2 Australia 18237
3 United Kingdom 13272
4 France 10408
5 Germany 8766
wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics
Number of Prostitutes:
China 5 Million
India 3 Million
United States 1 Million
Philippines 800,000
Mexico 500,000
Germany 400,000
havocscope.com/number-of-prostitutes/
Divorce rate (most recent) by country
Rank Countries Amount
#1 United States: 4.95 per 1,000 people
#2 Puerto Rico: 4.47
#3 Russia: 3.36
#4 United Kingdom: 3.08
#5 Denmark: 2.81
nationmaster.com/graph/peo_div_rat-people-divorce-rate
LIKE THAT NON ISLAMIC/WESTERN PEOPLE R HIGHEST RATE OF CRIMES & VIOLENCE AND ROBBERY,I THINK THESE CRUSADERS,JEWISH MEDIAS,ATHEIST,HUMANIST,FEMINIST MAKE THEM LIKE THAT,HOW CAN WE SAYS ” WESTERNS PEOPLE R DEVELOPED ” ?? CRIME RATES OF WESTERN PEOPLES R MORE THAN THE UNDER DEVELOPED AFRICAN COUNTRY ,THAT MEANS IN CASE OF MORALITY /CULTURE/FAMILY VALUE THEY R UNDER DEVELOPED NATION ,TODAY CULTURE OF WESTERN WORLD GOING ON 1000 BACK ,THAT MEANS LOWER THAN ” BASTED BARBARIANS “,THE THINKING PEOPLE & SCHOLARS FROM WESTERN WORLD AGREED ISLAM ONLY THE SOLUTION FOR REFORMING THEM FROM DARK AGE TO PEACEFUL WORLD ,MASS CONVERSION TO ISLAM TELL US LIKE THAT…………….
Demsci says
Sham, is this really what Muslims are told and believe?
Of course you don’t care about peace, safety, good education, humanity, longevity, prosperity and overall happiness for people and societies as a whole,, you only care for the defense and spread of Islam! This is a no-brainer, you behave highly prejudicial and your arguments are very flawed.
They are totally out of context. Without so many variables that people need to assess the functioning of societies in a reasonable, effective way.
– What if in Islamic countries police was corrupt and covering up? While the democratic countries have well-controlled more honest police? Isn’t it all about honesty in reporting with these negative statistics?
– What if victims of crime, esp. rape, get treated as suspects by police in Islamic countries? Their rapes would not get into the statistics, would they? Still, you would praise Islamic countries for their safety? Meanwhile in Democratic countries victims trust police more, hence higher reporting of crimes, hence higher rape-statistics.
– What about the fact that the (big) flow of people is from Islamic countries towards the Democratic ones and not vice versa? You must be flabbergasted by this fact if you believe your own statistics!
– What about the positive statistics??? The statistics every country likes to brag about, far from hiding the facts as with the negative statistics. The stats about prosperity, longevity, happiness, reasonable health care, education, technological innovation etc? Why don’t you show us those? Which countries consistently top those statistics? Why is Israel higher on them than almost any Islamic state (and there are 56 of those).
You opened this door, and if we pursue your line of reasoning it backfires spectacularly on Muslims and Islam.
SpiritOf1683 says
You’re a typical sick in the head Muzzrat with typically zero intellect, just like the brain dead cult you follow, which has never produced anything of benefit in the 1,400 years that it has been a scourge on mankind. As you think us Western infidels are so bad, get out to Pakistan. Too bad you’ll lose your dole money.
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
Wow Spirit. That guy is certifiable.
But hey: At least he knows what he REALLY is. I mean, look at his name.
firefox says
When Christians are called to be loving and accepting, it does not include being consciously blind to danger, especially to an unmistakably evil danger.
That is willful ignorance.
I am not surprised that this word comes from a Catholic priest, who right now is being led by the most incredibly anti-Christian Pope ever.
Even the most anti-Roman Catholic Pope ever.
What is Francis doing attempting to call every religion under himself to establish what seems to be a new world religion?
Even considering the anti-Christian thought that “all paths lead to God”, how in the world can Francis justify and reason that Islam:
the anti-every-religion-but-itself,
the ‘strike terror into the hearts of the unbeliever’ religion,
that incorporates the allah-commanded: ‘death to every unbeliever”,
the allah-commanded ‘Jews are pigs and apes’ and ‘the worst of all people’,
and the allah-promoted ‘child marriage/sex’ and ‘wife abuse/rape/beating/disfigurement/murder’,
AND the only one that in its texts ‘denies Christ’s divinity and the Bible’s message’,
to be a just another path to God??
Francis’ words and actions defy all logical human reason, and especially all religious reason, and I hope it defies Roman Catholic reason.
The Roman Catholic Church made up its own self-serving religion that was ultimately challenged and Christianity reformed. But the RC Church did not, nor did it give up its sense that it alone is the link to God. Again recently it even pondered the return to dispensing indulgences!? And Francis stated that Christians were deluding themselves by falsely believing they could have any relationship with Christ, or any forgiveness from Christ outside the RC church.
Francis’ political posturing and attempt at a new world religion is no less astonishing than Obama’s Muslim-sympathetic anti-Christian anti-free-America presidency or the virtually unchallenged and horribly agressive Muslim invasion.
It is so hard to believe that all this is happening, yet when you set it against the background of what more we’ve done, it just fits right in with the long ago Biblical pronouncement of “man’s fallen nature”:
our decimation of the ocean’s fish stocks, the nearing saturation of all oceans with uncollectible floating plastic garbage, the poisoning of all our cultivateable lands with cancer-causing chemicals and unproven genetically manipulated seed (thanks Monsanto), the first of many yet to come and sadly inevitable nuclear reactor meltdowns seeping into and to forever poison the oceans.
Regardless of the talk of the new world order de-population agenda, we are steering ourselves into a major hiccup of Biblical proportions. And we just can’t seem to help ourselves.
Cthulhu says
I don’t know where to put it, so:
http://www.radiolausitz.de/nachrichten/blutige-attacke-vor-dem-city-center-in-goerlitz-1225173/
“Bloody Attack in the City Center in Görlitz . The police said, two asylum seekers from Syria have attacked a Pole. One of the attackers cut the victim’s throat with his finger ring. The investigation has been launched against the two refugees aged 18 and 21. The police secured the ring as evidence.”
Sorry for my poor English
somehistory says
What poor English?
Thanks for the information on the attack.
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
I agree Some! And what a gracious thing to post. Again: I’ll take our conservative sites any day in the week, over the uncouth lib sites.
Warren Raymond says
These “Christian leaders” are government servants. You may not know that in Germany the christian church is officially the state religion. The churches are thereby privileged, that the government tax office deducts a percentage from everyone who calls himself a Christian from his or her pay check.
Then there is the fact that these churchmen (& women) live in a bubble; many of them are socialist infil-traitors and subversives in a free market economy. This has been a long time in the making, but is all coming to a head now.
OLHG 1 says
Just read that the the Pope is planning to meet with a group of Sunni Muslims. I pray that he doesn’t naively think that they in any way respect or will listen to him as through they cared a whit for what he says.
Troybeam says
These so called Christians wanting refugees to come in rake in the dollars and forget the impact these refugees have on society as well as forgetting the refugee once they arrive walking away with a ton of money.