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German investigators: “No indication” Muslim who screamed “Allahu akbar” while killing man had “Islamic extremist motive”

May 10, 2016 7:42 am By Robert Spencer

“Bavaria’s top security official later said investigators had no indication so far that the suspect in the attack at the Grafing Bahnhof station…had an Islamic extremist motive. Interior Minister Joachim Herrmann said the suspect apparently had psychological problems and drug issues.”

There is no doubt that many Nazi concentration camp guards had psychological problems and drug issues. Did this mean that Auschwitz had nothing to do with Nazi Germany?

Once again we see, in the wake of this jihad attack, the overriding imperative of the political and media elites: not to inform or protect the public, but to make sure that the public doesn’t think ill of Islam.

Grafing station

“Germany: 1 dead, 3 wounded in stabbing at train station,” by Matthias Schrader, Associated Press, May 10, 2016 (thanks to Ken):

GRAFING, Germany (AP) — A German man was arrested after several people were stabbed at a train station near Munich early Tuesday, authorities said. One victim died in a hospital and three other people were wounded.

The assailant made “politically motivated comments” as he attacked, Ken Heidenreich, spokesman for the Munich prosecutor’s office in charge of the case, told The Associated Press. He said his office was investigating witness reports that he yelled “Allahu akbar,” Arabic for “God is great.”

However, Bavaria’s top security official later said investigators had no indication so far that the suspect in the attack at the Grafing Bahnhof station, around 30 kilometers (nearly 20 miles) east of Munich, had an Islamic extremist motive.

Interior Minister Joachim Herrmann said the suspect apparently had psychological problems and drug issues, news agency dpa reported.

Heidenreich said that the suspect is a 27-year-old German citizen, with a German-sounding name….

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  1. Phil Horaia says

    May 10, 2016 at 7:51 am

    German investigators: “No indication” Muslim who screamed “Allahu akbar” while killing man had “Islamic extremist motive”

    No Islamic motive? I would have to disagree. I suspect he is a convert. As usual, the police and media are trying to put some distance between the assailant and the Religion of Peace.

    • Christianblood says

      May 10, 2016 at 10:22 am

      Political-correctness is destroying the West and they will have no savior, no way out for them.

    • Custos Custodum says

      May 10, 2016 at 6:12 pm

      The police guy (“Bavaria’s top security official”) is quite correct: there is no indication that the perpetrator had an “Islamic extremist motive.”

      In fact, the motive was mainstream, common-and-garden Islamid jihad and inherent dhimmi-hatred. (Remember, dhimmis are those loathsome creatures who invented and build smartphones, airplanes, bombs and machine guns. Muslims are people whose societies seem congenitally unable to create any real innovations.)

  2. Jaladhi says

    May 10, 2016 at 7:59 am

    Yeah, there was no “Islamic extremist motive” – right! How about regular run of the mill Muslim motive? Is that too difficult to find – you morons can’t find your way out of a paper bag – you are deaf dumb and blind!!

    • Sylvie says

      May 10, 2016 at 9:53 am

      unreal isnt it

  3. WorkingClassPost says

    May 10, 2016 at 8:04 am

    When I left the house this morning, BBC still wasn’t covering this story.

    Interestingly, the European channels mentioned it in their leads, but barely gave it a couple of sentences, before moving on to other stuff.

    They’ve obviously learnt how to avoid accusations of covering up, like previously, but still avoiding talking about the incident.

    Sky gave it a bit more coverage, but probably just to gloat at Germany.

    • Jaladhi says

      May 10, 2016 at 8:13 am

      But it was widely reported in Times of India 5 or 6 hrs back.
      http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/Man-heard-shouting-Allahu-Akbar-knifes-Munich-rail-passengers-1-dead/articleshow/52201783.cms

      Even NYTimes reported by 4:30AM NY time.

      • WorkingClassPost says

        May 10, 2016 at 8:21 am

        Yes, and RT had it as breaking news early on too.

        Thing is, I don’t pay for all those channels, but BBC requires a fee, just to own a TV.

  4. American Mike says

    May 10, 2016 at 8:05 am

    A nation of fools is what they became!

  5. Ross A Lloyd says

    May 10, 2016 at 8:16 am

    No one trusts the German police anymore.

    • DFD says

      May 10, 2016 at 9:27 am

      No, not even the police trusts the police. 70,000 (yes, seventy thousand!) have quit last year…

      • Angemon says

        May 10, 2016 at 4:28 pm

        Holy crap, that’s a big number. Were they replaced?

        • DFD says

          May 10, 2016 at 4:33 pm

          No

        • Angemon says

          May 10, 2016 at 4:38 pm

          That’s… not good, to say the least. Especially with the million or so of unwanted “guests”.

        • DFD says

          May 10, 2016 at 5:10 pm

          On the contrary! Surprised? 🙂

          The people require disciplined and trained and organized fighters, who are experienced in the use of firearms and street fighting.

  6. PaulW says

    May 10, 2016 at 8:19 am

    I’d be tempted to turn this around and ask the authorities what, in their opinion, would constitute evidence for an “extremist Islamic motive”. Writing out a witnessed, signed statement claiming that this was in fact the perpetrator’s motivation? Producing an ISIS-style video quoting Islamic texts that advocate jihad on the part of Muslims, and explaining how this was the motivation for violence against non-Muslims? You get the point: there is undoubtedly NOTHING that would count as evidence of an extremist Islamic motive for violence in the eyes of these experts on Islam. Probably because extremist Islamic violence doesn’t exist ….

  7. Paul says

    May 10, 2016 at 8:30 am

    There must be something inherent in the way the brain is
    wired that, when subjected to substance misuse or malfunction,
    always causes its host to act violently and chant “allahu akbar”.
    Very strange indeed. We’re seeing this a lot now. We need a team
    of top investigators to look into this worldwide phenomenon.
    I wonder if the German police are searching the perpetrator’s
    house now with magnifying glasses looking for “motives”.
    I hope so, we need to have complete confidence in them.

    Meanwhile, back on planet Earth, RIP the poor victim and may
    the other victims have a speedy recovery. If they were under
    any illusions previously, hopefully the true nature of things is
    abundantly clear to them now.

    • Sylvie says

      May 10, 2016 at 9:56 am

      Unbelieveable. I still do not understand why Is Germany seemingly denying the state of affairs and covering it up??

      • Paul says

        May 10, 2016 at 1:57 pm

        Sadly, the government there are conspiring against their own
        people. This is just going to get worse and worse. Civil war in
        a year or two? I would not bet against it.

  8. SD says

    May 10, 2016 at 8:40 am

    He screams ”Allah Akbar!” the age old battlecry of muslims and the Authorities see no islamic context. This guy is obviously a islamic terrorist. He couldnt get a gun or a bomb so he used the thing anybody can buy the knife. This is what muslim killers do with israeli jews. Now they do it with European.

    • Godwin says

      May 10, 2016 at 9:19 am

      Living next to these people is just like living next to a pack of rabid dogs , as some Burmese monks had said.

  9. vcragain says

    May 10, 2016 at 8:43 am

    “make sure that the public doesn’t think ill of Islam.” THAT is the core problem and it is high time that there were a real blitz of counter-information to get the public to understand this threat to Western values. What can we do to get this going…I reply to lots of news reports in their ‘comments’ sections at my risk of getting branded as a ‘problem’ – but I want truth to prevail – I believe the West is confused and being idealistic, but because of the wish for everybody to ‘live together in harmony’ it will take a long time at this rate to get people to appreciate that the core tenets of Islam are a danger to the West. THEY would like to dominate and take us over, there is no doubt in my mind about that, based on their scripts, BUT because the average Muslim is not necessarily in tune with that larger ambition, they do not understand why someone like me would say such things – THEY are not a danger to me, their extremists who follow the book TO THE LETTER are the danger, and I do not want THAT CORE AMBITION to be tolerated & ignored until it becomes the status quo. Islam is NOT just a religion it is POLITICALand a total lifestyle, and very dangerous because of that. WE ARE IN DANGER – the ‘authorities’ are scared of a backlash against Islam – well they are right to be scared of hysteria getting the better of common sense & decency since so many ‘little guys’ (yes mainly MEN !!!) are prone to that and getting out their guns & shooting people, or otherwise behaving like fools. We cannot discuss the problem we face when those same idiots are causing the reaction by those ‘in charge’. YOU problem causers are what we need to defend ourselves against also – you, who cannot control your own hate & belligerence – the ‘bother boys’ as we used to call them in the UK, are the reactionary idiots who will make this situation an inevitable cultural war instead of a discussion & sensible policies to counter the danger, which is what we need to concentrate on.

    • Michael Copeland says

      May 10, 2016 at 8:55 am

      Copy and give out:
      “Islam’s Vision of Destruction: Muslims Speak”
      http://www.libertygb.org.uk/news/islams-vision-destruction-muslims-speak
      After all. it is from the horse’s mouth.

  10. Michael Copeland says

    May 10, 2016 at 8:45 am

    Memo to German police:
    “Muslims must kill non-muslims wherever they are unless they convert to Islam”.
    Ali Gomaa, Grand Mufti of Egypt
    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/04/egypts-mufti-jihad-terrorists-are-misunderstanders-of-islam-and-quran see comments

  11. Angemon says

    May 10, 2016 at 8:57 am

    The assailant made “politically motivated comments” as he attacked,

    Did he shout “Heil Hitler”? “Death to Merkel”? “Bring back the Reich”? “Down with Capitalism”? “Occupy Grafing Bahnhof station”? “Political motivated comments” is a big place there buddy – you’re going to have to narrow it down for me.

    Ken Heidenreich, spokesman for the Munich prosecutor’s office in charge of the case, told The Associated Press. He said his office was investigating witness reports that he yelled “Allahu akbar,” Arabic for “God is great.”

    So by “political” you mean “religious”. Sure, there’s a “political” aspect to islam but it’s inseparable to the religious aspect – devout muslims are supposed to spread islamic law by the blade. Muslims who don’t are hypocrites or apostates – case in point, the ahmadi.

    • DFD says

      May 10, 2016 at 9:57 am

      Angemeon says: “…devout muslims are supposed to spread islamic law by the blade. Muslims who don’t are hypocrites or apostates – case in point, the ahmadi.”

      Hi Angemon,

      Sadly, you are mistaken about the peaceloving or peaceful Ahmadiyyas or Ahmadis. See below. Until I learned about this I too fell for their propaganda, peaceful, persecuted. I think by now a Muslim is an enemy, no matter what he says or claims. Dig enough, and one hits the quran. The only trustworthy Muslims are converts to Christendom or converts to Atheism – real apostates.

      Apart from that, it seems to be there are only two appropriate terms or synonyms for Muslim: Taqyian or enemy, no in-between. I am sure if one digs enough with the Bahai, the same pictures will emerge, as I show below.

      Ahmadiyyas? Persecuted by the other Muslims because they are soooo peaceful, thus requiring our help and support. Strange, the people of Munich want to prevent the building of a peace loving Ahmadyyia mosque in in their city; why, how could they? Have a look at these two pictures, I translate:

      Picture 1 http://pi-news.net/wp/uploads/2016/04/Kreuz-brechen1.jpg

      Mirza Ghulam Ahmed, founder of those non-violent peace lovers:
      “I have been sent to break the cross, to destroy the pigs!” The pigs are us, in case you are having difficulties.

      Picture 2 http://pi-news.net/wp/uploads/2016/04/Untergang1.jpg

      Ahmadiyya Caliph; Mirza Tahir Ahmad:
      “At the first rise of Islam the Christian peoples were not completely destroyed. But now with the new rising in our time we will…”

      Salute my friend. And sorry for destroying, the beautiful and commendable, notion of at least some wanting peace.

      • Angemon says

        May 10, 2016 at 4:37 pm

        No worries, DFD, you didn’t destroy anything 🙂 .I’m well aware that the ahmadi share the same endgame as their coreligionists everywhere – to have sharia law with chopping of limbs, oppression and discrimination against women and other religions, death to apostates, etc, rule over the whole world. My point is that they (on paper at least) renounced offensive jihad as long as they’re not being persecuted (a fluid concept in islam) and so are regarded as apostates. For example, in Pakistan they’re legally forbidden to call themselves “muslims”.

        • DFD says

          May 10, 2016 at 4:49 pm

          Angemon says: “…in Pakistan they’re legally forbidden to call themselves “muslims”.

          Didn’t know that, but it shows. It reminds me of a caricature I saw, the last Muslim on earth. I lost the link, so I describe it: A Muslim hops about on one leg, with one hand he tries to cut his head off, with the other he wants to stab himself. Wirh the remaining leg he wants to kick himself.

          —————BTW, here’s some news from England. Incidentally, we are not so merry anymore…

          Mosques across the UK have ordered Muslim women to stop wearing trousers, leaving the house without permission from their husbands, or using Facebook in new controversial rules published by various Muslim organizations and associations.

          The Green Lane Masjid in Birmingham banned women from wearing trousers – even in front of their husbands as they show “details of her body”, while Blackburn’s Central Mosque said women should delete their Facebook accounts to protect them against “evil.”

          The mosque cited a quote from the Koran about the “sin” of alcohol to justify its stance against the “vicious network” of Facebook.

          The Blackburn Muslim Association, which is an affiliate of the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), an umbrella body representing 500 mosques, even went as far as to say Muslim women should not leave the house without their husband’s permission and should be accompanied with a male chaperone, also known as a “mahram”.

          Similarly, a mufti from Croydon Mosque and Islamic Centre said: “A woman should seek her husband’s permission when leaving the house and should not do so without his knowledge.”

  12. Sam Hawkins says

    May 10, 2016 at 9:10 am

    Apparently a native, ethnic German. Authorities and media are being quick to discard Islam as a motivation, reporting not that the perp screamed “allahu akhbar” but that “reports that witnesses heard the man scream ‘allahu akhbar’ are being investigated” (note the framing and shifting).

    It’s at least conceivable that the killer is a paranoid schizophrenic junkie who never actually converted to Islam (remember, at a minimum that means saying the “shahada” in front of Muslim witnesses). Sometimes really unlikely and bizarre things do happen.

    Unfortunately we cannot count on German authorities and German media to tell the truth and not hide it. There are numerous documented instances of them camouflaging, downplaying, suppressing the truth about Muslims in Germany, especially recent Muslim immigrants, committing acts of violence against non-Muslims.

  13. kessler says

    May 10, 2016 at 9:20 am

    So the truth is not out yet. Maybe it never will be as there is a concerted effort by authorities to cover up anything which highlights the jihadi ideology. It causes “alienation” you see…
    German media attempted to ignore the Cologne rape jihad, put had to cover the story when it was picked up on social media. For years, Swedish authorities have covered up the extent of the rape epidemic because the assailants were mainly immigrants/muslim.
    This smells like yet another cover-up. Fingers crossed the truth will get out from alternate sources and work as another pin in the multicultural utopia bubble favoured by Merkel and her ignorant leftist ilk.

  14. David says

    May 10, 2016 at 9:21 am

    I think someone need to come up with a decent “Battlecry” for the rest of the planet! I’ve always interpreted allahuecbar for it’s actual meaning. Our god (Satan) is greater then your God, YHWH!
    So, some version of: take your pagan savage believes and shove them right up the Camels………(you know the rest!)
    Once muslims everywhere realize that we civilized folks DO have the will and the weapons to defend ourselves, much of their evil, vile behavior may subside?

  15. Kuffar says

    May 10, 2016 at 9:23 am

    Motive Unknown…

  16. Andra says

    May 10, 2016 at 9:50 am

    The latest German news say the guy had shouted: Infidel, you must die now!
    Well, to me this is a clear hint to an islamic motivation, especcially combined with Allahu Akbar.. But for German police it´s just one more sign that this person has psychological problems.

    • DFD says

      May 10, 2016 at 10:08 am

      They could be coming up with the same thing as in the US/San Bernadino – work related. Could be, if the find that his great-great-grand father has been working for the railroads…

      You know, a thought just has occurred, when those authorities run out of lame excuses for Muslim atrocities, wait for the next beheading: “The perpetrator was practicing a close shave because he desperately wanted to get a job as a barber.”

      Sick humor, I know. But sometimes that’s all that’s left.

  17. Vyx says

    May 10, 2016 at 10:50 am

    Passive aggressive law enforcement.

    “If we keep denying that Islam is behind specific acts of violence, the Muslims causing such violence will just give up, since we refuse to acknowledge their motives. And then Islam will become peaceful”

    /I wish I was joking…

  18. Ex-muslim says

    May 10, 2016 at 1:04 pm

    I blame this on the peoples of the Western world. They are pure COWARDS! They import hundreds of thousands of hateful muslims, ignore the plight of the true victims of islam and even openly support and arm muslim jihadists killers in places like Syria. Now even the muslim jihadist killers they imported are attacking Christians in Germany, Sweden, France and other places and those Western cowards cannot do anything to help them.

    • Elbie Dorman says

      May 10, 2016 at 1:31 pm

      .What do you call yourself, a Muslim coward = running away from your country where there is a war?

  19. Fatetrader says

    May 10, 2016 at 4:34 pm

    I can understand the evil creatures in power for doing this to Europe, they are evil so this explains it all BUT what I can’t understand is the low paid end of society the 99% meaning us!! why we agree, so many follow this madness……..

  20. GIEH says

    May 10, 2016 at 4:43 pm

    Europe is doomed. If we stay, we’re doomed with it.

  21. David says

    May 11, 2016 at 7:10 am

    The lunacy of the many German officials in power is quickly destroying Germany as a culture and a nation. How sad. Cannot wait for the neo nazis take back Germany by force. They just might. They will leave the jews alone, ok, we are just talking about this little muslim problem we have.

  22. David says

    May 11, 2016 at 7:38 am

    I want to say to more things. The first being meaningful to people, the second, just a personal reflection from the past.

    A great number of the German police in postions of high authority oviously have “psychological problems”. Not to make fun of them, but I read news 5 days a week about Germany. I’m no supporter of “Hitler”, but many smart minded German descent people like me would love to have that little devil in charge of Germany now. I stand by what I say as a proud German descent. Merkel has done more harm to Germany ( quite a bit) than Hitler. If you really hear what I am saying and don’t take a quick dislike to what I say you might agree. Hitler did a lot of harm to other countrys. I am focused on harm to Germany. Merkels damage will take 100 years to eradicate. WW2 was a walk in the park.

    Personal reflection. I was in Germany in several cities for 2 weeks in 1984. I was appalled that they had so many Arabs in the country then. I heard and witnessed how the Arab people were not assimalating to the German way of life and wondered why the F they were in Germany in the first place. Now it’s a frigging nightmare. I believe that was under 100,000 at the time. Not sure.

  23. Bart says

    May 14, 2016 at 6:25 pm

    Friggin leftists are psychotic and self hating.

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