“The head of the Protestant Church in Germany has called for Islam to be taught in state schools across the country as a way to make young Muslims impervious to the ‘temptation of fundamentalists.'” He suggests this because he assumes that Islam is a religion of peace that has been hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists. In reality, however, if Islam is taught in state schools, Germany will find itself confronted with more jihad, not less. But by the time they figure out why it is happening, it will probably be too late.
“German Protestant bishop wants Islam classes in all state schools,” Reuters, May 28, 2016:
The head of the Protestant Church in Germany has called for Islam to be taught in state schools across the country as a way to make young Muslims impervious to the “temptation of fundamentalists”.
Bishop Heinrich Bedford-Strohm told the Heilbronner Stimme newspaper that teaching Islam in schools nationwide would give Muslim pupils a chance to take a critical approach to their own religion.
Seven of Germany’s 16 federal states offer some form of Islamic religion classes in their schools, similar to the Catholic and Protestant religion classes they have traditionally had. Germany has about four million Muslims, about five percent of the total population.
Attitudes towards Islam have hardened following militant attacks in Europe and the arrival of more than a million migrants last year, most of the Muslims.
The influx has fuelled the rise of anti-immigration party Alternative for Germany (AfD), which maintains that Islam violates the constitution and wants a ban on minarets and face veils. Almost two-thirds of Germans think Islam has no place in their country, according to a survey published this month.
In addition, hundreds of Germans have left the country to join the radical Islamic State group in Syria and Iraq since 2012, according to the interior ministry, and [sic]
Bedford-Strohm said all faiths in Germany must be compatible with the country’s democratic constitution. “Tolerance, religious freedom and freedom of conscience must apply to all religions,” he said in the interview published on Friday.
He said Islamic associations in Germany should be responsible for these courses and hoped they would organise themselves to be a “clear partner” for the German state….

vlparker says
There is no end to the stupidity of the left.
vicki says
Maybe be not so stupid.
Is this a tricky way to bring about the reformation of Islam? We know Muslims either don’t want to or think it can’t be done. I say the West reform Islam. We teach Islam they way we want it taught, as a tolerant religion, or should I say myth?
John Magee says
Muslims believe the Koran was personally given to Mohammed by an angel sent intact as it reads today from Allah. To go back to the basics of Islam means one thing which is Islamic Law of Sharia or else delete about 85% of what is written in the Koran which is about hate, violence, and revenge. There can be no “reformation” in Islam. Ever.
Andra says
Even if this could work which I doubt, Bedford-Strohm ist too left and too submissive to think that far.No, he is the most dangerous man for the future of the Protestant church in Germany.
Bob says
The Protestant church in Germany would appear to have joined the apostate church of prophecy!
paul says
The screamers would be in there immediately screaming this was punishable by death.
What is he thinking?
Mark A says
But he’s suggesting the Muslims teach the courses. Do you seriously think that will work out well? I think that’s a recipe for complete disaster.
It’s just a way of introducing Islamic education into state public schools. I don’t suppose the Bishop has ever proposed Christian clerics coming into the public schools to teach Christianity (Oh no!!!! Violation of separation of Church and state etc. etc), yet he’s ready and willing to have imams come into public schools to teach Islam.
If statements like this are typical of this Bishop, then he is an idiot. With leaders like this guy, it’s no wonder the Christian churches in Europe have lost most of their members already, their pews are empty and they’re selling empty churches to Muslims for conversion into mosques.
He’s leading his few remaining members into dhimmi status.
Huck Folder says
Methinks he doth protest too much.
Anne Smith says
What a drongo
Guest says
“All faiths in Germany must be compatible with the country’s democratic constitution.” And how does Islam play into that?
mortimer says
Bishop Heinrich Bedford-Strohm has apparently not studied the jihad doctrine, the kafir doctrine, the vigilante doctrine, the misogyny doctrine or the obscurantism doctrine of Islam, but, preposterously, presents himself as an authority on Islam.
Without a four-year minimum study of the Koran, hadiths, Sira, canonical commentaries and Sharia law manuals, no one can be considered expert enough about Islam to make policy about it.
His suggestion is therefore impertinent and self-aggrandizing.
Jay Boo says
No Mortimer
Despite your repeated Cut & Paste Bull Crap, nowhere does he —
“preposterously, presents himself as an authority on Islam. ”
That is exactly what YOU do.
In fact mortimer your
— “suggestion is therefore impertinent and self-aggrandizing.”
Jay Boo says
Mortimer said (once again,
(Fill in the Blank)
“(Bishop Heinrich Bedford-Strohm) has apparently not studied the jihad doctrine, the kafir doctrine, the vigilante doctrine, the misogyny doctrine or the obscurantism doctrine of Islam, but, preposterously, presents himself as an authority on Islam.
Without a four-year minimum study of the Koran, hadiths, Sira, canonical commentaries and Sharia law manuals, no one can be considered expert enough about Islam to make policy about it.
His suggestion is therefore impertinent and self-aggrandizing.”
mortimer says
All Christians SHOULD study the jihad doctrine and be strongly grounded in it so they can recognize the threat to non-Muslims (especially to Christians) and be ideologically prepared to resist jihad.
Jay Boo says
What?
“study the jihad doctrine and be strongly grounded in ”
nonsense
A better idea —
All Christian clergy SHOULD study their Bible 101 lessons and be strongly grounded in it so they can recognize that Islam does not worship the same God.
All anyone needs to know about jihad doctrine can be found at places like this.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/11/video-robert-spencer-on-the-theological-aspects-of-islam-that-lead-to-jihad
mortimer says
Jay Boo again shows his profound impetuosity: ““study the jihad doctrine and be strongly grounded in ” – nonsense”
Wisdom is to know the enemy profoundly.
“If you KNOW THE ENEMY and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know NEITHER the ENEMY nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Islam cannot be defeated without knowledge.
Oliver says
Thomas Jefferson (it has been written ) studied the Koran, etc (obviously long before the Internet, smart phones. dumb phones, etc) and got to know that to know Islam is to despise it.
Mortimer, I agree with you. (as JFK is once supposed to have said, when he had some of the greatest minds of the US in the WH for a state dinner- ” this is the greatest assemblage of intelligence in the WH, at one time, EXCEPT FOR WHEN THOMAS JEFFERSON DINED ALONE”.
IQ al Rassooli says
It is an unfathomable irony that most of today’s clerical and political leaders of European (and American) Christians are falling on their own sword to accommodate Islam while for almost 1700 years discriminated, humiliated, slaughtered, dispossessed, exiled and hated Jews!
In many cities in Europe there were graffiti stating “Dirty Jews go home” implying they should leave Europe to the land of their birth.
Having done so after the Holocaust, RESURRECTING their state of Israel, they are maliciously accused as “OCCUPIERS”!
I have no doubt what Muslims will do to these priests, their churches and their flock when Muslims gain the upper hand
I have recently spent 14 days of investigative reporting in Israel:
Having watched and read for years regarding Israel and Israelis (actually Jews) being portrayed very negatively not only by Muslims who are the enemies of every human being who is not a Muslim (currently enemies of 80% of none Muslim humanity called Kuffar/Infidels) but as well by a huge number of supporters among Europeans, I decided to spend 14 days investigating, observing, discussing and asking questions eyeball to eyeball regarding these subjects in Israel with Jews, Christians, Muslims, Arabs etc.
I traveled all over Israel starting in Tel Aviv, then Jerusalem and later had Jewish, Christian & Muslim taxi drivers to take me to different localities where they acted as interpreters and facilitators to meet people.
I visited cities, towns and villages from Eilat in the south of Israel to the Egyptian border, to Gaza border, up the sea shore to Tel Aviv again, Yaffo, Caesarea, Haifa, Lebanese border, Golan, Tiberia, Nazareth, down to the Dead Sea and Massada and back to Jerusalem.
I met with Arabs, Druze, Bedouins, and Israelis from at least 10 different nationalities, soldiers, shop owners, clergy, artists, students, men and women. I met light skinned Israelis from Europe, brown skinned from Arab and Muslim countries and black skinned from Africa. The shades were incredible because of inter marriage. The crucible that united these culturally and racially diverse Jews into Israelis are the armed forces. I asked the questions and listened to their answers. I was not there to debate but to get enlightened.
I saw a country bursting with people filled with the zest for life; inventive, creative, cultured, democratic, tolerant, artistic, scientific and determined to live their life to the full no matter how much danger they are facing from their surrounding enemies unlike the Arab and Muslim states surrounding them that are literally self- destructing while blaming as always not themselves or their own utter stupidity but Israel and all others for their misery and hellish life.
I did not meet a single Israeli whether Jewish, Christian or Muslim who does not aspire for peace in the region. In fact not a single Israeli Arab would leave the alleged Apartheid state of Israel to live in any neighbouring Arab state and that is why the Arabs of Israel have increased exponentially to become 20% of its population
While Israelis love life, her surrounding mortal enemies the Muslims, declare publicly that they love death. Well, may their god Allah grant them ‘martyrdom’ at the hands of other Muslims and Arabs.
Israel is made up of about 75% Jews, 20% Muslim Arabs and 5% Christians and others.
Many of the young Christians that I met were a breath of fresh air because they KNOW that only in Israel are they safe and hence are now asserting their new identity as Christian Israelis instead of Christian Arabs.
Many young Christian men and women are now volunteering to the IDF (Israel Defense Forces) to safeguard the only state between the USA and India where they are treated as equal citizens and are not threatened with extinction.
If before this trip I cared about Israel 70% of the time based on studies, now that I have seen with my own eyes and heard with my own ears, I shall care for her at least 95% of the time.
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
Sam Hawkins says
Be sure to write up your experiences as a long reportage. Hope you can get it published in a mainstream publication!
IQ al Rassooli says
Hello Sam
Thank you BUT I have no doubt no main stream publication would do so because they are NOT different from these clueless brain dead clergy
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
mortimer says
Agree with IQ. Many of the leading clergy are full of their importance to the extent they feel they do not need to study Islam, but can make their policy on the basis of guessing and supposition. They can only make disastrous policy of a gaping lacuna of ignorance about the jihad doctrine.
a fool says
One can never opens a closed mind which is full of hatred towards those who have a different thinking and ways of reasoning. God alone does miracles! Let us pray and hope that this Protestant German Bishop will be successful with his DREAMS!.
mortimer says
He will lead his army to defeat. He doesn’t know that Islam is a sworn enemy of all non-Muslims and has a plan to subjugate and exterminate them.
Bedford-Strohm naively believes Muslims will respond to the Golden Rule. They will not, because the Golden Rule is not found in Islam. Bedford-Strohm does not know that. He is a Pollyanna.
El Cid says
How ironic.
No doubt they will import the curriculum from Saudi Arabia.
If I were a Muslim immigrant seeking to assimilate into European society, I would be horrified.
What the Nazis failed to do, they Jihadist will succeed. All the Jews will leave Europe.
utis says
The good bishop, just like the cardinal in Cologne preaching in a boat, is another fine example of this fact: just because you’re an official religious authority, it doesn’t mean you know crap about about anything else. I wish some muslims would get a clue about their own religious know-it-alls.
Paul says
So much stupidity treachery and betrayal by the corrupt
Western church. It’s got to the point where we can trust the
words of the supposed ‘extremists’ of ISIS and Anjem Choudary
much more! These guys are at least completely honest.
Dan Jones says
Why don’t you make all mosque’s have “christian classes”???
More End Time News At:
http://www.shininginthedark.com/?page_id=7760
Angemon says
Well, are they wrong? Because I maintain they’re right.
Hope says
How would this work exactly, this teaching of islam in state schools? Will there be a mixed group of students in the class, both muslim and non-muslim? If so, which koran verses will be addressed? The verses that instruct the muslim students to behead, crucify, terrorize and stab their infidel classmates? The verses that assure muslim students that Allah considers them “the best of peoples,” while castigating their infidel peers as “the vilest of creatures?” Or maybe the verses that command the muslim kids to lie to the infidels in order to win their trust so that they can easily ambush them later on? Or maybe, instead of the inconvenient truth, a whitewashed, sanitized version of islam will be trotted out. You know, the Religion of Peace version. I would love to be a fly on the wall of that classroom.
Nigel GFF says
“The head of the Protestant Church in Germany has called for Islam to be taught in state schools…”
When the shepherd loses his way what becomes of the flock?
I suggest attending alternative venues, namely self-defence classes.
But then, as others have pointed out here, it’s an excellent idea to get
wise to the true nature and purposes of Islam. The curriculum…
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Wellington says
Just one more useful idiot. They’re coming in bunches nowadays.
somehistory says
The photo illustrates the vacant look and the silly smile of the one stupid enough to *assume* anything about islam might be good.
Teaching the *real*….the *true*…islam, by someone like Mr. Spencer or Mr. Ibrahim, would benefit the kids. Then they would know what it really is all about and how to avoid becoming a part of it and lessening the likelihood of becoming a victim of it.
Teaching as this silly fool advocates will harm everyone…except those devoted to the beast from satan. And those so devoted are already standing in the path of Divine Justice that is headed their way.
Greg Zotta says
Another FOOL who is CLUELESS as to the threat of Islam. It is obvious he has not seen the chaos going on in Europe with the Muslim invasion. Muslims use our First Amendment right against us to pursue their goal of World Islam. BTW it is the security heads that said there is a threat of Isis infiltrating the Syrian “refugees” the Obama Regime along with the RINO’s, that want to let them in unvetted. The banning of Muslims has happened before in this country. Hayes needs to go back to history class. Muslims will not assimilate into the American culture and Sharia Law is not compatible with the US Constitution. Islam is a political and military system masquerading as a religion. Muslims can lie to the infidel to promote Islam. The Muslim Brotherhood calls for a “Civilization-Jihadist Process,” in which they would destroy the Western civilization from within. They said they would use the Constitution against the US to further their agenda. Their goal is World Islam. Muslims believe the infidels will have to convert to Islam, be enslaved or be killed. They state, we do not want to democratize Islam, we want to Islamize democracy. That is what we want. “We Will Raise The Flag Of Allah In The White House” I believe it has already been raised from the actions of Barack Hussein Obama as president and his Muslim Brotherhood advisers. Their prophet Mohammed was a pedophile rapist and mass murderer. And they will try to push Sharia law if the American people do not wake up. Again, Islam is not compatible with the US Constitution and the American culture. Look at what has been happening in Europe with the invasion of Muslims into the various countries.
SBJ says
There must be a magic number how many traitors one country can endure.
Kepha says
A far better use of Herr Bischoff’s time would be to review either Luther’s Catechism or the Heidelberg Catechism of Zacharias Ursinus and Caspar Olevianus–depending on whether the Herr Bischof belongs more to the Evangelische or the Reformierte side of established German Protestantism.
As things stand now, he’s just making PeeCeeEmCee noises to please cultured despisers who probably aren’t listening anyway.
mortimer says
Bedford-Strohm is unaware that Muslim governments have totally rejected freedom of conscience in the ‘Cairo Declaration’ of Sharia-controlled human rights. Under the terms of the Cairo Declaration, everyone has the human right of remaining under discriminatory, draconian Sharia law indefinitely.
Bedford-Strohm reveals his total lacuna of knowledge of everything concerning Islam except for the name ‘Islam’. He uses the name ‘Islam’ as a repository for his speculations about highly codified and totally non-speculative Islam. Islam is not a human rights initiative. Ask any non-Muslims who has lived in an Islamic Sharia country.
Kepha says
My worry is that the Herr Bischoff has a total lacuna of knowledge about the Christian religion of which he is supposedly a leader and teacher. Similar ignorance among the “Christian” leaders of the Anglosphere are the reason why they’re bending over backwards to be both Islam-friendly and perversion-affirming. I suspect that Herr Bischoff Bedford-Strohm is a similar fount of ignorant impiety.
It would be a very good thing if the leaders of the official Protestant churches in Germany (and others where they have establishments) would dust off their Bibles, read them, and, for once, entertain the question “If the Bible is challenging the way I think and do things, could it be that I am the one who is wrong?”
Mic says
Another PC appeasement. Appeasing moslem has never worked in the West while the moslem population grows. The it is too late. .
Blangwort says
Know what? I agree with him, but be sure to teach EVERY aspect of Islam: The good, the bad, and the downright evil. We need people educated on what this really is, and why it may not be a good thing.
Jay Boo says
Blangwort
“educated on what this really is”
Simple:
Children type
https://www.jihadwatch.org/
UNCLE VLADDI says
MAYBE HE SHOULD TAKE A SHORT COURSE ON ISLAM FROM ROBERT SPENCER, FIRST!
mortimer says
If someone sent him Spencer’s books, I doubt he would read them.
Singh the Sikh says
This bastard of a bishop is as dumb as they come. Like the senile butch and bitch. Merkel. Pardon the language but not time for niceties when dealing with privilidged and sheltered elites who pose a grave danger to their own citizens and countries: news just on hand is Cologne airport shut down because of reported security breach. People like the bishop and merkel bear much of the responsibility. Fingers need to be directly pointed at them and their policies/ideologies.
Richard Courtemanche says
What is it with all these birds of other religions promoting Islamism? Feeding the crocodiles until they get eaten last!
Richard says
“German Protestant bishop wants Islam classes in all state schools”
What an ignorant idiot. Unless he means they teach the truth about Islam – that it’s a regressive, homophobic, misogynistic, murderous, genocidal, medieval, supremacist, totalitarian ideology.
Do they teach Christianity in all state German schools? Why does he want Islam taught in them, the cowardly, bootlicking, servile b#@t%&d.
Richard says
I sent his Church an email. Let’s see if I get a reply:
“Why has Bishop Bedford-Strohm called for the teaching of Islam in German state schools?
Question – Is Christianity taught in all German state schools?
Why then has he called for Islam to be taught in them?
Is it due to cowardice and servility, because Islam is an aggressive and supremacist ideology and he wants to slavishly pander to it, to save his own skin?
Will they teach the truth about Islam, that it is a regressive, medieval, homophobic, misogynistic, militant, supremacist, totalitarian ideology, much worse than Nazism? Or the fabricated lies that it is peaceful religion, preaching equality?
There are over 100 verses in the Quran commanding its believers to commit violence towards non-believers in that absurd book they claim comes straight from God.
There are verses where it permits beating of wives, slaying of infidels and taking their wives and daughters as slaves, killing of apostates, and homosexuals.
Let him educate himself and stand up to Islam as Martin Niemoller did when he stood up to Nazism, if he has the courage to face the truth.”
SD says
I often think Germany must be saved, many Germans feel that way as well but when I see imbeciles like this bishop calling in essence for the islamization of his country then I see okay what the fuck if they want this they can have it but they better not complain when the soup that they are cooking does not become them well.
Bleeps says
For one second I thought I read “German Protestant bishop wants Islam clashes in all state schools,”. I think I am not far from my imagination but we know how this helps us in critical thinking! Mind if I tell you this idiot is full ignorant after his face appearance and smile?! This priest never took seriously the saying prepare for worst, act for the best. In churches you will never hear the roman (catholic? anyone) saying “Si vis pacem, para bellum”
b.c.terry says
Un fucking believable.
This simpering submissive christian will be the first to be persecuted, or worse.
Alain B says
The Jews have a saying which explains what’s happening in Germany. It is “Mida Keneged Mida” or in English “Measure for Measure”. Mein Herr and Fraulein, hold on to your underwear cause the party is just starting!!!
Ivan Erickson says
I respectfully suggest that the Bishop get his head out of the darkness of the the abyss in order that he may see the light and realize that his idea will only serve as another recruiting tool for a sect that does not believe that Jesus Christ is the Only Begotten Beloved Son of the One True God Who Lives.
God bless all people of all faiths, sects, races and ethnicity’s of the world.
ICE
Richard Paulsen says
He would have called Jan Sobieski and Charles Martell xenophobic. What are they escaping, demanding protection from? Haven´t they escaped from dictatorships and wars? Why then demanding the same they escaped from?
International rules should be changed. Allow islam being spread all over Europe and the Western world oppressing Christians and others not wanting islam.
Germany having a complex about two terrible wars under grim rulers. Sweden – the most extreme european nation accepting islam – about not taking part. Neither understanding they are supporting a new totalitarian teaching.
Jack Gabriel says
“Islam to be taught in state schools”, is such a broad brush wish by this dim-witted protestant bishop that it makes no sense. What exact version or excerpt or piece of Islamic books would he care to see. There are the whitewashed and sanitized Islamic text versions that would hide and shove under the rug the true teachings and true interpretations and then there are the plain, simple and real teachings of Islam as in the Quran, and the Hadiths as presented by the premier Islamic jurisprudence scholars that the majority of Islamic nations have adopted and believe in. These imbecile exhortations by these German protestant bishops are at best naïve and at worst an existential threat to the German and European peoples. These people still are so in the dark and immersed in their own delusions about a peaceful version of ISLAM that they are a threat to themselves. The root of Islamic threat and terror is the URAN and the Hadiths of Mohammad. If they are eliminated from the lives of 1.5B Muslims then they could be free from the slavery of this oppressive ideology. But that is near impossible , is it not?
Ali Bey says
Dear Bishop: Islam is not a religion of peace hijacked by a tiny minority. It is a “religion” of war accepted by a vast majority.
Paul Mitchell says
Only one word…..IMBECILE!!….Only a dumb ass Libtard christian would promote a religion that wants his own religion wiped out!