The Huffington Post, in publishing Craig Considine and now this from Ian Mevorach, illustrates what happens to Leftists when they ally with Islamic supremacists: they fall completely under their sway and begin to proselytize for Islam.
Writes Mevorach: “I do not have space in this article to explore the many Qur’anic verses directly addressed to Christians, but if we were to receive them our religion would be transformed for the better and would come into balance with Judaism and Islam.”
So apparently the problem in the world today is Christianity, in being out of “balance” with Judaism and Islam, and that “balance” can be restored or attained by encouraging Christians to “receive” the “many Qur’anic verses directly addressed to Christians.” But Mevorach, a cramped man, does “not have space” to “explore” those many verses. Mr. Mevorach, I am happy to help. Here are the principal Qur’an verses regarding Christians:
Jesus is not the Son of God, belief in the Trinity is “excess”: “O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, ‘Three’; desist — it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.” — Qur’an 4:171“It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.” — Qur’an 19:35
Jesus was not crucified: “And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah’s messenger — they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain.” — Qur’an 4:157
Those who believe in the divinity of Christ are “disbelievers”: “They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary.” — Qur’an 5:17
Christians “forgot a good part” of the divine revelations they received: “From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done.” — Qur’an 5:14
Muslims should not take Jews or Christians as friends: “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.” — Qur’an 5:51
Those who believe that Jesus is God’s Son are accursed: “The Jews call Ezra a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! ” — Qur’an 9:30
Christians who do not become Muslims “are the most vile of created beings”: “Nor did those who were given the Scripture become divided until after there had come to them clear evidence. And they were not commanded except to worship Allah, sincere to Him in religion, inclining to truth, and to establish prayer and to give zakah. And that is the correct religion. Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the most vile of created beings.” — Qur’an 98:6
Jesus’ mission was to proclaim the coming of Muhammad: “And when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, ‘O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad.’ But when he came to them with clear evidences, they said, ‘This is obvious magic.'” — Qur’an 61:6
Muslims must fight against and subjugate Christians: “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” — Qur’an 9:29
Ian Mevorach and the Huffington Post thus contend that if Christians deny the divinity of Christ and the crucifixion (and hence also the resurrection and redemption) and accept that those who hold such doctrines are under a divine curse and must be warred against and subjugated, their “religion would be transformed for the better.” That’s how deep the cultural rot goes today.
“Did Jesus Predict Muhammad? A Biblical Portal Between Christianity and Islam,” by Ian Mevorach (“Theologian, minister, ethicist, and activist; co-founder of Common Street Spiritual Center”), Huffington Post, April 25, 2016 (thanks to Steve):
…In the history of Christianity, all of the negative terms in 1 John 4:1-6 have been used against Muhammad. He has been identified with “the Spirit of Anti-Christ” and the “Spirit of Error.” However, the time has come for Christians to recognize how wrong we have been in these assessments and to correct the record by affirmatively identifying Muhammad with “the Spirit of Truth.”
When we look at Islam as a world religion, and see that 1.6 billion people and growing are following in the way of Muhammad, the time has surely come to recognize him as a prophet. If Muhammad is not a prophet, who is? It is understandable, really, that so many Christians have been defensive and have reacted negatively to Islam. That kind of group-ego, fear-based response is part of human nature. However, it is absurd for us to continue to see Muhammad as a heretical Christian or false prophet given that Islam has lasted for nearly 1,400 years, has supported monumental cultural, spiritual, artistic, political, moral, and intellectual achievements, and has a tremendous and vibrant global following.
There is no better candidate than Muhammad, no one in fact that comes even close, in terms of fulfilling Jesus’s promise of the Spirit of Truth who would bring forth a new revelation from God. I do not have space in this article to explore the many Qur’anic verses directly addressed to Christians, but if we were to receive them our religion would be transformed for the better and would come into balance with Judaism and Islam.
Jesus knew it would be difficult for us to accept his guidance from another source. But he did not want our fear of the apparent otherness of the Prophet Muhammad and the Qur’an to separate us from the Way, the Truth, and the Life; that is, the Word of God. This is why he spoke to the disciples reassuringly about the Spirit of Truth, saying, “he will glorify me”; and, for the same reason, he emphasized the unity of his teaching with the revelations to come, twice repeating the promise, “he will take what is mine and declare it to you” (John 16:14-15, NRSV). Based on the promises of Jesus, Christians can encounter the Qur’an without fear, knowing that it is a revelation which glorifies Jesus and, in a spiritual sense, is from him….

Ross A Lloyd says
Huffington post can shove that BS fair up where the sun don’t shine. Mohammed was a very clever criminal who worked out a scam for legitimising all of his preferred criminal vices…
mortimer says
Mohammed’s amoral character is the greatest liability to the acceptance of Islam or to Mohammed’s recognition as a valid prophet.
The five oldest and most trusted Islamic source texts don’t portray Mohammed as a ‘superior being’ or even vaguely‘the mercy of God among mankind’. Islam’s foundational source texts reveal that he was a plagiarist, a con artist, a highwayman, a liar, an assassin, a pedophile, a shameless womanizer, a promiscuous, cheating husband, a rapist, an enslaver, a genocidal mass murderer, a desert pirate, a psychopathic warmonger, an anti-Semite, an intolerant bigot, a spineless coward, and a calculating, ruthless tyrant.
The portrait of Mohammed is certainly not the character profile of the saintly founder of a true religion, but that of an amoral cultist, a malignant narcissist and a scheming politician.
James M says
Muckhammed sounds very like another violent, deceitful, womanising pseudo-prophet: Joseph Smith, founder of Mormonism.
gravenimage says
Much of Mormonism appeared to be based on Islam.
Mormonism reformed; Islam will not.
Idania says
You forgot edophe.
Kepha says
Absolutely. Muhammad and Joe Smith are two reasons why I take the ending of the Book of Revelation very seriously. Moe and Joe are two shmo who’ve been leading millions to Hell.
Champ says
Indeed, Kepha! 🙂
gravenimage says
Alas, many prominent Mormons have had a great deal of respect for Muhammed–this is not something recent; it goes way back:
Elders George A. Smith (1817–75) and Parley P. Pratt (1807–57) of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles delivered lengthy sermons demonstrating an accurate and balanced understanding of Islamic history and speaking highly of Muhammad’s leadership. Elder Smith observed that Muhammad was “descended from Abraham and was no doubt raised up by God on purpose” to preach against idolatry. He sympathized with the plight of Muslims, who, like Latter-day Saints, found it difficult “to get an honest history” written about them. Speaking next, Elder Pratt went on to express his admiration for Muhammad’s teachings, asserting that “upon the whole, … [Muslims] have better morals and better institutions than many Christian nations.”
https://www.lds.org/ensign/2000/08/a-latter-day-saint-perspective-on-muhammad?lang=eng
Lots more disturbing stuff at the link, including a laudatory account of the life of Muhammed and a sycophantic whitewash of Islam’s teachings.
Note that this is *not* an anti-Mormon webpage, but an official Church of Latter Day Saints site.
But apart from a lingering fondness for the foul prophet of Islam, mainstream Mormons are no threat to us. I am quite aware that this is not Mormon Watch, nor should it be.
خَليفة says
Mohammed was a disciple of Satan.
Mohammed cannot be prophet of Yahweh as he does not fulfill the prophetical requirements mentioned in the bible.
http://www.prophecyhelps101.com/rich_text_3.html
To any Muslim reader – you can ask your imam about prophetical requirements, but be warned,
your imam CAN, and DOES use
takiyya, tawriya, kitman and muruna
on you as readily as he would on any kafir.
Rev g says
Correct! Similarly, Isa (quranic Jesus), would be a false prophet.
Islam glorifies false prophets, further underscoring it’s dark nature.
mortimer says
خَليفة wrote: “your imam CAN, and DOES use takiyya, tawriya, kitman and muruna on you”
So sad, but that is precisely what the mullahs do…lie to defend Islam. Why do they need to use lies to prove Islam is true? Using taqiyya to prove Islam is a contradiction which proves Islam is false.
Why do Muslims’ heads not explode?
Lisa says
Mohammed was a murderous paedophile who married a six year old. He kidnapped women and children to turn them into sex slaves. He was also a thief. Mohammed is dead burning in hell and Jesus died on the cros, rose from the dead, and is ALIVE. Jesus was sinless. Mohammed was one of the most evil people to walk the earth. The angel that visited him were Lucifer. So Huffington post, your evil, mentally ill, disgusting, and perverted. No follower of Christ will EVER reject Jesus. Take your stinking ass mohammed and allah, aka satan, and go jump to your deaths so you can learn the hard way. We’re sick and tired of all yalls liberal brainwashing. And I do realize you perverts want to make 12 perversions legal like pedophilia and beastiality. And all that comes from that diseased religion Islam. And while I’m thinking of it, any religion that goes in public and cuts themselves and their children with swords, is a demonic religion. No religion other than Islam beats themselves with chains and cuts themselves and walks around like zombies with a hundred other males, Covered in blood. In the bible it says this kind of act is demonic possession. Yes. Islam IS satanism.
Champ says
“Yes. Islam IS satanism.”
*Very* true, Lisa! …great comment!
Dean says
I don’t recognize the huffington post.
Peter Brock says
A couple more for ISIS fodder. Take their passports and ship them off to Mecca.
No thanks to the “seminaries” who put out this BS for tuition $$$.
p.s. C’mon, Bob. Lose the porn advertisements …
Kim Smith says
I CANNOT EVEN FINISH READING THIS DRIVEL. HE SAYS THAT MOHAMMED MUST BE A TRUE PROPHET BECAUSE ISLAM HAS LASTED 1,400 YEARS. WELL CHRISTIANITY HAS LASTED FOR 2,000 YEARS. MOHAMMED WAS A WAR GENERAL. HE WAS A SAVAGE. HE WENT TO JERUSALEM AND ATTEMPTED TO CONVINCE THE RABBI’S THAT HE HAD BEEN VISITED BY GOD. THE PROBLEM IS THAT ONLY MOHAMMED WAS WITNESS TO HIS SO CALLED MIRACLES. JESUS, ON THE OTHER HAND, HAD THOUSANDS OF WITNESSES TO HIS MIRACLES. THE MIRACLES THROUGH OUT THE BIBLE, ( DANIEL IN THE LIONS DEN, SAMSON, ISAAC, JACOB, ETC…ALL HAD WITNESSES TO THEIR MIRACLES AND TO GOD’S INTERVENTION.
MOHAMED HAD NO WITNESSES AND TOLD MOHAMED TO LEAVE THE HOLY CITY. HE WAS SO ANGERED THAT HE THEN BEGAN TO SPEAK TO HIS FOLLOWERS ABOUT KILLING CHRISTIANS. HE WAS A PSYCHOPATHIC KILLER. HE WAS NO PROPHET.
Champ says
Brava, Kim! Indeed!
Jack Diamond says
He visited Jerusalem in a dream, which is why he found a mosque there. He also believed in talking cows. Muhammad was prone to hallucinations since childhood. He even confessed to Satan putting words in his mouth. It’s just that he never stopped putting words in his mouth.
fudge says
Muhammad was the anti-Christ and yes he was a prophet of satan
Susan B says
So now we are to say a man who hated females and was a rapist of a child and female captives is a prophet. A man who was a brutal warlord is a prophet. Do any of theses idiots actually read the koran or do they believe what muslims tell them. There is no proof, none whatsoever, that mohammad was a prophet and no person with a conscience would make him one. Really, Hitler would make a better prophet than mohammad. Both Hitler and mohammad hated the jews, a match made in hell.
Custos Custodum says
LOOK CLOSELY at the photograph of a smiling Ian Mevorach, if you have a strong stomach.
Would you buy a used car from this paragon of post-Christian virtuosity? (Virtue is for rubes.) Would you trust him to drive your kids to school? Do you think he declared ALL his income and paid all his taxes? Do you think he is faithful to his wife or partner?
mortimer says
Since I don’t know Mevorach personally, I won’t criticize his ethics.
However, Mevorach’s theology is called ‘dynamic Monarchianism’…which is the basic heresy in Islam. Many scholars believe ‘Mohammed’ or ‘Achmed’ was a Christian heretic who got power-hungry. Mohammed was probably a lot like false prophet Jim Jones of Jonestown ill-fame.
Custos Custodum says
This is an honorable position to take – are you aware that it is a fundamentally CHRISTIAN position?
Muslims and people in other non-Christian societies (e.g. India) are quite happy to judge people by their facial expression. In the present case, note that the picture was presumably taken and selected for publication at Mevorach’s specific request.
Another point is whether one should seek to be guided by gentlemanly Queensberry Rules when the other team have come for a down-and-dirty knife fight.
Kepha says
I’m not sure that Mevorach’s theology is dynamic monarchianism rather than a strange mix Docetism and 19th century Unitarianism (oddly transported to the 7th century).
Peggy says
We doln’t know Obama personally either but we sure judge him so what’s the difference?
You don’t have to know someone like this man personally to know what he is all about. He is telling us what he is about so pay attention.
I don’t need to meet him to know that I want nothing to do with him. That alone tells me that is not good for me.
Yes, some people we do need to know to evaluate but this guy is outing himself.
gravenimage says
*At best* Mevorach is an ignorant fool; at worst an advocate for *evil*.
TheDane says
May Huffington Post go down! MoHammed was a demon-possessed Pedophile, and he worked for satan. Same as you guys: When you are against Christ, you are for Satan and Antichrist.
I don’t recognize anything that comes from the perverse and evil submission-ideology.
john spielman says
actually muhammed pbuh * self professed demon possessed mass murderer thief liar misogynist necrophiliac and pedophile pervert who was also a FALSE prophet according to the statements of St Paul in the Bible. and the Islamic concept god (allah) is actually SATAN of the Bible
pbuh* – perpetual banishment unto hell!
annie says
Oh look a grammar Nazi get a life.
Franc says
I’m totally puzzled as to whom you are directing your comment and why.
BlueRaven says
Did you check your grammer – annie Mo
Alexius Comnenus says
Your are a real Christian and a good follower of our Lord Jesus Christ.
You said it in plain English what islam is.
Thanks and God bless you.
James says
He does realize the Spirit of Truth is the Holy Spirit not a human right?
Ren says
OK, I recognize Muhammad is a phony prophet.
Eagle says
Ren, I am with you. Muhammad is a phony, a false prophet. A cult leader, the reason all these musheads are destroying every God given wonderful thing this world has to offer. Those that follow this cult leader are sick, mentally ill inbreeds. This includes the mushead leader of the United States. God Bless America as his term is almost over..
abad says
Me too.
BTW say “Hi” to Stimpy for me. Thanks 🙂
Dean says
I DON’T RECOGNIZE THE HUFFINGTON POST.
Richard Paulsen says
Democracies in balance with theocracies? Better theocracies being changed into democracies. Then all problems between theocracies and democracies will wane and the world will be better. There is no other way.
How will muslims manage without Christians? Where to escape when there are too many muslims and a majority muslim men in Europe and a life there like in countries where islam rules now?
No one escaping from Europe to islamic countries now. Why? Becaause life is better so far in Europe.
Canto28 says
Robert, challenge this insane man to a debate that we can see on YouTube and elsewhere.
RonaldB says
“Robert, challenge this insane man…”
Naw…
Google Ian Mevorach. He’s the head of his own group that has about 25 tree-huggers and drum-beaters. He’s managed to snare a few more confused followers, such as Rabbi Katy Z Allen, another tree-hugger with a rabbi certificate.
http://www.commonstreet.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/community-drumming-picture.jpg
These people are on the fringes of even the interfaith-friendly, hard-left religious orders like the United Methodist Church and Church of Christ.
But, he does represent the ultimate logic of the interfaith movement. As described in Stephen Coughlin’s “Catastrophic Failure”, the interfaith movement mandates finding the common features of different religions. This philosophy is explicitly used by Islamists to compromise and transform Jews and Christians stupid enough to get involved with their program.
The fact is, Judaism and Christianity, Christianity and Islam, and atheism and either of the other 3, are mutually-exclusive and incompatible. I as an atheist can have Jewish, Christian, or Muslim friends, but it would be insane to get together with them on “Common theological basis of atheism and Christianity”. I can meet them as friends, or even ask about their beliefs, but cannot logically try to reconcile my beliefs with theirs.
The Muslims specifically use the interfaith movement to pave the way for Islam. The muddle-headed practitioners of interfaith can’t quite conceive that they are being consciously manipulated, so they seek a common ground by moving their own positions. The Muslims are not about to move theirs.
Mo says
“Huffington Post calls on Christians to recognize Muhammad as a prophet”
Get lost, HuffPo. What kind of person recognizes a warlord, terrorist, murderer, sex slave owner and child rapist as a prophet?
I don’t want to read this whole thing because I will be tempted to comment and I can’t on HP because I no longer have Facebook. How these liberals sicken me! These bigots LOATHE Christianity. They denigrate it any chance they get. But now they are shilling for Islam? You know, that religion whose followers would happily murder THEM, along with anyone else? Why don’t liberals just move to Islamic countries if they love this death cult so much? They enrage me!
As to this bit:
“In the history of Christianity, all of the negative terms in 1 John 4:1-6 have been used against Muhammad. ”
Gee, maybe because it fits?
Islam is the most anti-Christian religion on the face of the earth. It EXPLICITLY denies the most important tenets of Christianity, including the deity, death and resurrection of Christ, even to the point where it’s the worst sin to say that God has a son.
What’s most maddening is that these liberals mock the Bible (a book they’ve never read) any chance they get… until they want to use it to make some point.
The hypocrisy of these liberals never ceases to amaze me.
celticwarriorcanada says
The Huffington Post calls upon all Christians to apostatize and deny The Doctrine of The Trinity, The Deity of Jesus Christ, His Sacrificial Atonement for Sin , all Christian Creeds etc ! Welcome to the wonderful world of antichrist , hope you enjoy the Ride ! The False Prophet Mohammad will be your Pilot, Conductor and Guide on your Tour STRAIGHT TO HELL !!!
Dean says
I DON’T RECOGNIZE THE HUFFINGTON POST…MO WHO?
WorkingClassPost says
He’s made sure to say this before Obambam’s blasphemy laws get passed…
Frank says
Someone should make a follow up post that says: Christian Call On Huntington Post To Recognize The Bibles Qualifications For A Prophet…
With a little Biblical due diligence Huntington could of just squashed this one.
Angemon says
Funny how the law of large numbers only works one way. 2+ billion people in the world believe that Jesus Christ was the last of the messengers of God, thus precluding muhammad from being a prophet. Worldwide, 5+ billion of people don’t consider muhammad as a prophet. As for the “and growing” bit, are they growing because non-muslim people go through a detailed, decades-long study of all of the world’s religions and conclude that islam is the one true religion or is it because overall muslim families, being dirt poor, have more kids than non-muslim families and indoctrinate them into islam?
Jay Boo says
Huff Po will try to use false equivalence of saying that since Islam recognizes Jesus as a prophet that Christians are obligated to do the same while ignoring that the only reason the habitual liar Muhammad chose to name-drop and include others in his co-prophet status was as an attempt to boost his own flimsy credibility.
ponchard colin says
This fuck wit cannot read – nor can this fool think –
waterdog says
Muhammad is a prophet and Jesus did mention him. “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.” Matt 7:15.
Vladimir Val Cymbal says
Hey, that describes Mohammad perfectly, a falls prophet and a ravenous wolf.
Seth Phillips says
Jesus was asked, “What do I need to do to get eternal life?”. He responded by saying, “You know the commandments.” “Which ones?”, the man asked. Jesus started quoting the 10 commandments, and added the pivotal “you must love your neighbor as your yourself”. One of the 10 commandments that was the pillar of true worship as instituted through the word of God by the hand of Moses, the one who referred to Jesus as “a prophet like me”, was “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” KJV Exodus 20:3. Jesus said “the son can do nothing of his own initiative”. In John 5:19 KJV Jesus is quoted as saying “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.” And to Satan when challenged to worship the powerful godlike leader himself Jesus did not say that Satan was wickedly unworthy of worship even though he knew well enough he was, but instead chose to refer to a scripture and elaborating “Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him ONLY shalt thou serve.” Jesus himself stressed that there was not permitted duality of worship, reinforcing the fact made clear that YHWH is a jealous God, requiring people to serve him exclusively – and why not? He is omnipotent, he alone is truly wise in that he alone knows EVERYTHING, and even his Son must trust HIM for the knowledge and power that is lacking in the Savior Jesus Christ, one “higher than the angels” and to be honored “as they honor the Father”, for he is the “high priest”. But these things and many others make clear the Trinity is a fallacy, and really, it is clear from the history of the pagan religions and of ideas present in Roman culture in particular that the idea came not from the Bible or Jesus or his followers but from the pagans. Mohumed was a false messiah, a false prophet, even an antichrist, but in opposing the Trinity, he was perfectly correct, as he was adhering to what Abraham taught Ishmael correctly, that Allah is King over all, even the Son, who likewise rightly and completely submits to in humble worship.
Preacher says
It’s not unlike Satan to mix some truth in with a lie. The false doctrine of the trinity has served to omit calling on Jesus name our the name of our God during water baptism and causes worship of the one true God to be divided into the worship of 3 persons. There is one God and His one Name is Jesus, John 17:6. There is one baptism into His name and only His name for the remission of sins, Acts 22:16. There is also one Spirit which is given to us by the one promise which was given once through Peter to all that will hear, Acts 2:38-9. Without the Spirit of Jesus Christ we are not of God, nor can be God’s child, Romans 8.
God Bless and thank you for your post.
Lucretius says
Since the being of the Holy Trinity is one, whatever the Father wills, the Son and the Holy Spirit will also. What the Father does, the Son and the Holy Spirit do also. There is no will and no action of God the Father which is not at the same time the will and action of the Son and the Holy Spirit.
In Himself, in eternity, as well as towards the world in creation, revelation, incarnation, redemption, sanctification, and glorification—the will and action of the Trinity are one: from the divine Father, through the divine Son, in the divine Holy Spirit. Every action of God is the action of the Three. No one person of the Trinity acts independently of or in isolation from the others. The action of each is the action of all; the action of all is the action of each. And the divine action is essentially one.
Those passages, “the Son can do nothing of his own initiative,” “the Son can do nothing of himself but what he seeth the Father do: for what things so ever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise” are proof-texts of the orthodox doctrine of the one will, one godhead, of the Trinity, and not what you say. The Trinity is one will, but the God-Man, Christ, the hypostatic union has two natures, divine and human, and likewise two wills, the proof text being the statement in Gethsemane: “If it be thy will, take this cup away from me; yet not my will but thine be done.” The divine will of the Son CAN do NOTHING of himself, that is, CANNOT be a second will differing from the Father’s and the Holy Spirit’s. But the human will of Christ can, yet submits to the divine will.
Referring to God in the third person while talking to Satan likewise presents no difficulty, as it is the human will of Christ that speaks since only human will of Christ that can be tempted of the devil, not the Son.
Your disproofs are weak, but please yourself with your certainties.
Lucretius says
Correction of bad grammar in second to last paragraph;
…as it is the human will of Christ that speaks, since it is only the human of Christ that can be tempted of the devil, not the divine Son.
Anne says
Lucretius, excellent!
Preacher says
You haven’t described three persons, but three manifestations of One God. God was manifest in the flesh, becoming God with us. Notice Isaiah doesn’t prophecy that the child will the 2nd person in the godhed with us. As with flesh, there is the will of the flesh of course, but that is a part of having flesh. Even so, the Scripture tells us that the fullness of the Godhead dwelt within Christ bodily, and He that made the world came into the world and the world knew Him not. Jesus Christ knew that He was God manifest in the flesh when He said ‘destroy this temple and I will raise it up in three days’, and also when he declares ‘before Abraham was I am’, and even asks the question to the Pharisees concerning Psalms, why does David call the Christ Lord being his son?
Now, I can understand difficulty in ascertaining the mystery of Godliness, and trying to reconcile the references for the Father, Son and Holy Ghost without understanding manifestations, but pretending they are three separate persons violates what God says about Himself, ‘besides Me there is no other’, and it violates what Jesus said about Himself, “when you have seen me you have seen the Father”.
So what is tragic about not understanding that Deuteronomy 6:4 transgressed in your failure to wrap your head around the manifestation of Christ. The tragedy exists in that trinitarians do not adhere to the apostolic promise for salvation delivered by Peter once and for all in his Acts 2:38-39 proclamation through the Holy Spirit. These verses are the New Covenant for those that believe Jesus is the Messiah, but the trinity in its ignorance doesn’t understand that the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost in Matthew 28:19, or the manifestations of the one God, is Jesus, as the Son declares in John 17:6 concerning the Father, “I have revealed Your name”. Jesus being the name God manifest in the flesh by angels to Joseph (not a 2nd person, but God manifest in the flesh) as 1 Timothy 3:16 declares, “God was manifest in the flesh” and again in Phillipians 2:8 “And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself “. Who found Himself as a man? God found Himself as a man, not another person, but God, who is able to forgive sins and is Lord of the Sabbath.
Now, in their ignorance trinitarians have removed calling upon the name of Jesus in water baptism and have replaced His Name with calling out the titles of manifestations. As Acts 2, 8, 10, 16, 19, 22 each reference water baptism for the remission of sins can only be done in Jesus name. As the Scripture states we are buried with Christ in the name of Christ for the remission of sins. And, Paul writes to Corinth, “Were you baptized in the name of Paul?(1 Cor 1:13)”. No, they were baptized in the name of Jesus because “there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved(Acts 4:12)”, and “For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named”(Eph 3:14-15), and Jesus is “the name greater than all other names”(Phil 2:9), and again, “whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved(Rom10:13)”.Notice in Ephesians 3:14-15, Paul bows his knee to the Father who carries the name of the Son. Thus, Matthew 28:19 agrees that the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost is Jesus, which in turn agrees with the Scripture in that everyone who was water baptized, as we read, was baptized in Jesus name, with Paul in Acts 22:19 specifically stating that in his water baptism he was commanded to call upon the name of Jesus, and only the name of Jesus ( this again aligns with his question to Corinth, “Were you baptized in the name of Paul?”, him knowing their answer would be that they were all baptized in the name of Jesus who was crucified for us). Continuing, “That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father”(Philippians 2:10-11), and “And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.(Col 3:17)”, and God when was speaking to Ananias concerning Paul He states “[Paul] is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name’s sake(Acts 9:15)”
Undoubtedly, since the Bible is clear that we are saved by the name of Jesus and Jesus alone you will be hard pressed to explain why you omit His Holy Name in water baptism, unless you have taken the next step of a reprobate and now assert that water baptism is not necessary for the remission on sins as a part of the New Covenant with our Lord. If so, you are compounding the issue to cover up tampering with the original apostolic doctrine as put forth in the Scripture. My suggestion for you is to be water baptized calling upon the name of Jesus as the Scripture clearly commands you to do(Acts 10:48) rather than remain stubborn regarding the indoctrination you received which has put you into this position in the first place of being on the wrong side of God.
God Bless and do the right thing.
In His Holy name I pray.
Lucretius says
Are you saying Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are titles of God’s distinct manifestations (to us) but in God there is no distinction of persons? There are some texts that would seem to make this rather difficult to accept.
Why does it say “The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand,” and “for the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does” (John 3:35 and 5:20)? Does one manifestation to human beings love another manifestation to us? Or does the One-personned God love his manifesting himself to us in Christ?
Does the Father send himself and return to himself as in “as the Father sent me, I also send you,” and “I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God” (John 20:21, 20:17)?
And how does addressing as “you” in prayer work in what is only one-personned?
“After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed:
“Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began. I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word. Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you. For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me. I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours. All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them. I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one.” (John 17:1-11)
And this last “as we are one” goes to the heart of the importance of Trinity in the life of Christians. In God is the perfection of the communion in love which all Christians are called to strive in. This is the divine life we are called to become partakers of. There is no abolition of persons in this union, either in human beings or in God. In modalism there can be no such divine model.
When you write “Who found Himself as a man? God found Himself as a man, not another person, but God” you are asserting that God cannot be one God unless the one God is one-personned, since in that case another person would have to be either another god or would be a man and only a man.
I think the Tri-unity doctrine is truer to the texts and saves more of them, both the proclamation that the Lord is one Lord and the ones pointing to distinctness of persons in God than one-personned modalism. Of course it’s perplexing. But resolving all perplexity is not a precondition of accepting in simple faith what they say. Credo ut intelligam.
duh_swami says
Huffpolia is the 73 ‘rd sect of Islam…Huffpolians write a lot of wild and crazy stuff…Knowing what they are talking about is not required…
Hope says
Ian Mevorach, the Huffington Post, and your mass murderer, Muhammad:
Piss Be Upon All Of You.
David says
That’s 20,000 gallons of “Mohammed’s famous CAMEL PISS health tonic!”.
eagle says
I have to agree with David. Sneak in a little pig piss with the camel piss when ever possible.
KrazyKafir says
LOL what a colossal dhimmi stooge.
Lioness says
Exactly. Judging by his last name, he is a Jew, turned Christian, turned dhimmi. (Mevorach in Hebrew means “Blessed”). His kind words of Mohammad will not spare him from hanging from the lamp post when islamists get hold of him.
Kenny Duncan says
Huffpost is a liberal rag. Screw all of you. Climate change is a lie, mohammed was a pedophile and all you guys are ass kissing idiots!
Westman says
Who’da thunk it? Muhammad is the Holy Ghost! Muhammad was at Pentcost?
How can this error be so obvious that even an Agnostic can spot it?
But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified. (John 7:39)
This certainly illustrates the dogmatic acceptance by Muslims of any shoddy claim created by inferior “Islamic scholars” who haven’t carefully read the Bible. It’s not surprising, then, that it only takes the rumor of a Quran defacing to get a mob of Muslims beating, stoning, and burning a woman or that many Muslims think 9/11 was a false flag Israeli operation. Without rational thought there is no skepticism.
Sadly, many HuffPo readers are so estranged from the foundations of their society that they cannot recognize when the bricks are being replaced with outright fabrications.
JMB says
“(John 16:14-15, NRSV). Based on the promises of Jesus, Christians can encounter the Qur’an without fear, knowing that it is a revelation which glorifies Jesus and, in a spiritual sense, is from him….”
From the earliest days of the Church till the present time this verse of scripture means only one thing; that is the coming of the Holy Spirit. I don’t think any medieval monk, Catholic scholar, charismatic mega-church, evangelical pastor nor any Doctor of Divinity from any age would apply any other meaning to this verse of scripture. To associate this scripture with Muhammad or the Q’ran must be about the most delusional piece of wishful thinking that the Huffington Post has ever come out with ever.
Carmel says
How can a man with such studies have so poor judgement ?
Jay Boo says
I call on Christians at Huff Po ……
Oh Wait! — There are no Christians at Huff Po.
Huff Po mocks and stereotypes Christians
Ciudadano says
Yeah, and the earth is flat and to fallacies make a truth.
“When we look at Islam as a world religion, and see that 1.6 billion people and growing are following in the way of Muhammad, the time has surely come to recognize him as a prophet. If Muhammad is not a prophet, who is? ”
Ad populum argument. Something must be true because many people believe it.
“It is understandable, really, that so many Christians have been defensive and have reacted negatively to Islam. That kind of group-ego, fear-based response is part of human nature.”
That psychobabble is just red herring. There are many good reasons why Christians reject Islam and Muhammad (https://www.thecatholicthing.org/2012/01/28/aquinas-on-islam/)
“However, it is absurd for us to continue to see Muhammad as a heretical Christian or false prophet given that Islam has lasted for nearly 1,400 years, has supported monumental cultural, spiritual, artistic, political, moral, and intellectual achievements, and has a tremendous and vibrant global following.”
Ad antiquitatem falacy. Something must be true because people have believed it for a long time.
Hans says
The Christians actually do recognise him as a prophet… a false prophet n the anti christ..
Dexter L. Wilson says
Someone do the little research I did on the Bible. God wrote the Bible, Mohammed,the man wrote the Qur’an..
The Bible, with the Hebrew Old Testament Text and the original Greek New Testament does things that no other religious text of any other World Relationship between God and Mankind does; demonstrating that only the Creator could have, through 44 inspired writers, written this book. The scribes who copied the original Hebrew Old Testament text copied carefully every letter, jot and tittle. As they read the copied text, if a single letter, jot, or tittle mistake was made, they would destroy all that had been written and start over.
Ivan Panin, a Harvard Hebrew, Greek, and Mathematical Scholar researched the numerical values of the Hebrew and Greek letters. He sent 43,000 pages of numerical research to the Nobel Research Committee in 1900, and they could not refute the fact that God through 44 inspired writers wrote the Bible.
Del Washburn has written two books expanding on the numerical values, “Theomatics” and “Theomatics II”. (See http://www.biblecode.com ).
The most amazing proof that the Creator of the Universe wrote the Bible through the inspired men of God is the Equidistant Letter Sequences. The NSA tried to duplicate such coding and failed. Harold Gans, the lead code breaker for the NSA, before he died, satisfied himself that God wrote the Bible, by using a mathematical formula to determine the probabilities involved in creating codes throughout the surface text of the Old Testament (www.biblecodedigest.com ). Through the code, the multitude of information reads like yesterdays news–you must know the names, events, persons involved, locations, and/or the dates. For this reason it can not be used prophetically.
The original text of the Old and New Testament with the letter numeric values and the multitude of Equidistant Letter Sequences should be enough to prove to anyone that the God of the Bible, is our Creator. There are thousands of words, names, sentences and locations encoded in the Old Testament. If you are thinking that some super intelligence wrote this book other than God, God reminds you from Numbers 23’19”, “God is not a man that He should lie….” No human or computer can duplicate anything resembling the quantity of ELS coding in surface text like the Bible does. There are even codes between books, God knowing which books would be canonized. Where there have been codes in other translated books, they get left behind when you get to 7 letter words and full sentences.
In Ezekiel 36′ 25″-27″ it describes God’s way of salvation–“I will remove your stoney heart and give you a heart of flesh (being born again and receiving Jesus as your Savior), I will sprinkle you with water and make you clean (water baptism), and put my Spirit in you to cause you to walk in my laws and statutes (receiving the Baptism of the Holy Spirit).
The Bible is the Manufacturer’s Handbook for Planet Earth!
Post Scripts
Sources: “His Name is Jesus”, “The Genesis Factor”, “The Signature of God”, “The Writings of God”, “The Mysterious Bible Codes” (book and DVD’s), “Cracking the Bible Code”, “Bible Code Bombshell”, “The Torah Codes and Israel Today”, Computorah/The Bible Code I, II, &III, bibleprobe.com/jesuscode.htm, “Yeshua”, “Jesus Is My Name” , http://www.biblecodedigest.com, http://www.biblecode.com and there are so many more. Note: even the writer of “September 11 is in the Bible Code” , Dr. Larry Mitcham, his name is coded in the Bible. *:) happySo are Carl Baugh and a few others who have researched the codes.
Ivan Panin corrected an Exhaustive Bible Concordance using what he called the Bible Numerics. He said if there were 2 words found in the Greek New Testament in a sentence and you wanted to know which word to use, the word that harmonized with the sentence numerically was the correct word. He provided a Greek Numeric New Testament. Example of Bible Numerics: In the first sentence in the Old Testament, Genesis 1’1″, every verb is divisible by 7, every noun, and more; there are over 34 features of the number 7 in just this one sentence and these type features are consistent throughout the Bible.
Just a very few of the codes (and there are more being found every day–www.biblecodedigest.com) found: Hitler, Holocaust, Eichmann, Fuhrer, Meinkampf, Berlin, Germany, Belson, King of the Nazis, Crematoria for my Sons, (for statistical purposes only-there are more) 66 names of Rabbis-the cities in which they lived-dates of death (that came from the Book “The Great Men of Israel), Anwar Sadat-1981-parade-shot-gunfire-Chaled (his assassin), Yitzchak Rabin-Israel-will be murdered-date born-date of death-location of the assassination-assassin’s name-Oslo Peace Process, both Wars in the Gulf, George Bush, Saddam Hussein-America Schwarzkopf-the missiles will terrify-Scud B-they shut the door-3rd of Shevat, empty the gas, Murrah Building-Tim-McVeigh-slaughter-desolate, (in Genesis 38′) all the ancestors of King David, (in Genesis)25 trees are named, (between Isaiah 52′ and 55′) Behold the Blood of Jesus-Let Him Be Crucified-Mary-Joseph-Jesus is my Name-all the disciples names,Nazarene, Messiah, Shiloh, Passover, Galilee, Herod, Annas, Caiaphas Caesar, The evil Roman City, (in Zechariah 9’13”)Jesus, (in Zachariah 11’13”)Jesus, (in Daniel 9’26”) The Peace Offering, (in Micah 5’1-2″ Mary, Joseph, and Jesus(Yeshua),(in Matthew 24’7 through 48″) Jesus, Nazareth, Mercy, Lamb, (in Mark 8’9″ through Mark 9’2″) Jesus, Blood, Son, Innocent, Lamb, (in John 5’5″-13″) Jesus, Nazareth, Lamb, the name of the person most responsible for all the satellites circling the Earth and their names—–and on and on and on and on. I don’t think all of the codes will be found.
Preacher says
Thank you for this post. I’ll check it out.
Follow Acts 2:38-39 to be saved. God Bless.
Michael Wilkinson says
2000+ years before Mohamed was the Code of Hammurabi of which both Christianity and Islam appear to have based the rules of their ideology
Its the Babylonian law code of ancient Mesopotamia, dating back to about 1754 BC.
Google it for some very interesting facts and theories,
Many facts are preserved in the ancient writings carved into stone.
Mark Swan says
The laws of Hammurabi were essentially civil laws to govern the commercial city-state
of Babylon; they included punishments administered by judges subject to the king. By contrast, the Law of Moses is a much more comprehensive set of civil and religious instructions related to every aspect of life.
The laws of Moses are remarkable in their scope, especially when compared to the laws of Hammurabi. The moral dimensions of the Mosaic Law define right and wrong for all mankind, and protect the fundamental unit of society, the institution of marriage between man and woman. Commandments against lying and stealing and try to protect against the corruption that so permeates human societies.
Other Mosaic laws outlined an economic system and provided for debt relief (Deuteronomy 14:22–29; 15:1–2), guided agricultural practices (Exodus 23:10–11) and instituted wildlife management (Deuteronomy 22:6–7). Health laws in the Mosaic Code forbade self-mutilation (Leviticus 19:28), outlined quarantine practices, identified appropriate sources of food (Leviticus 11; Deuteronomy 14) and prescribed proper sanitation and the prevention (far more economical than mere treatment) of infectious disease (see Leviticus 11–15).
Legal authorities even today acknowledge that the Ten Commandments have had a significant impact on the development of secular legal codes of the Western world. In America, twelve of the thirteen colonies adopted the entire Decalogue [Ten Commandments] into their civil and criminal laws. An American legal scholar has stated, “To ignore the influence of the Ten Commandments in the founding and shaping of American law and government would require significant historical revision”. In summary, The direct and indirect influence of the Ten Commandments on American law goes back in time to the development of English Common Law, and before that to the origins of Western Civilization.
Many believe that Western civilization was built on Roman law and Greek ideas of democracy that date from more than 2,000 years ago. However, few today realize that much of the culture and civilization of the Western world rests on the foundation of five books written 3,500 years ago by a man named Moses. We can not ignore the remarkable content and undeniable impact the books of Moses have had on the course of world history.
These five most ancient books—contains unique, internal self-authenticating evidence in the form of nearly two thousand prophecies that confirm its divine inspiration. No other text other than the Bible can rightly claim to contain such specific prophecies that correctly foretell future events.
The books of Moses contain a dimension of knowledge that has had a profound influence on the world, yet is non-existent in the writings of other ancient religions and philosophies. They give unique information about the purpose and meaning of life.
Preacher says
Thank you Lord Jesus for those that speak the truth in your Holy Name
Jack Diamond says
Mr. Pretty Vacant is a heretic and for all intents and purposes now a Muslim. In an article in something called “New Age Islam” he quotes Qur’an 61:6, not as the Christian heresy it is, Jesus came only to proclaim Muhammad, but: “in this verse we have a vision of Jesus that affirms both Judaism and Islam; this is the vision of Jesus I believe that Christians are being called by God to adopt in the 21st century.”
Mevorach identifies himself with Dietrich Bonhoeffer who “disavowed Christian anti-semitism and embraced the fact that Jesus Christ was a Jew” when Hitler came to power. Apparently, Jesus, while being a Jew, was also a Muslim and now Christian “Islamophobia” fuels the new Nazism, Islamophobia, with Muslims as the new Jews ready for the ovens. “Now we have a xenophobic mood in this country that reminds people of the rise of Nazism in Germany…today, Christian leaders of conscience are called to take a vocal stand against Islamophobia. We are called to root Islamophobia out of our religion before it leads to another genocidal catastrophe.”
“Christian Islamophobia has deep roots. In the oldest Christian writings on Islam, St. John of Damascus’ Against Heresies (8th century CE), Muhammad is presented as a heretic inspired by the devil; Islam itself is categorized as a Christian heresy. ” {St. John of Damascus clearly understood Islam deeply}
“Now, in the 21st century, it is high time for Christians to acknowledge how wrong we have been. Islam is the second-largest religion on the planet and is an integral part of human civilization as we know it. Islam is a beautiful, complex religion that supports human dignity, arts and sciences, spirituality, economic, environmental and racial justice, and so much more.” {Islam is not a heresy because…it has
numbers? Didn’t it have numbers back when Christians called it a heresy? The rest “Islam is a beautiful etc….” is certifiable. This is crackpot da’wa, if you want the truth reverse everything said.}
“Just as Bonhoeffer embraced the fact that Jesus Christ was a Jew, thus identifying himself as a Christian with and for Jews, so too Christians today have the opportunity to identify ourselves with and for Muslims by positively identifying Jesus with Muhammad. The foundation of Christian Islamophobia (fear of Islam) is a rejection of Muhammad as a spirit of error; the foundation of Christian Islamophilia (love of Islam) is an embrace of Muhammad as a spirit of truth.”
http://www.newageislam.com/interfaith-dialogue/ian-mevorach/muhammad-as-spirit-of-truth–a-christian-testimony-against-islamophobia—part-one/d/107123
Christlam. If Muhammad is the spirit of truth then the Gospels are a lie. Judaism and Christianity are abrogated by Islam, but why spoil the ecumenical party?. Biblical history becomes Islamic history, Including the history of Israel and the Jews because Islam is a replacement theology. That too is part of jihad, removing the obstacles to the spread of Islam. As is hiding the real history of the bloody jihad and the persecution and sufferings of the People of the Book under dhimmitude. Doesn’t fit the narrative. In fact, Christlam undoes Bonhoeffer, because it is the Muslim mission to strip Christianity of its Jewish roots. Deconstructing Christianity, Judeo-Christianity, and western civilization with the help of useful idiots like Ian Mevorach.
Mark Swan says
Very Well said Jack Diamond, thank You.
ConanKong says
No one at HuffPo knows anything at all about Christianity, or Islam.
Nadia Nageeb says
Huffington; I thought you are something, but it seems you are really something else (F. you & F. your prophet Mohammed) …!!!
sidney penny says
“that Islam has lasted for nearly 1,400 years, has supported monumental cultural, spiritual, artistic, political, moral, and intellectual achievements, and has a tremendous and vibrant global following.”
“Islam …has supported monumental cultural, spiritual, artistic, political, moral, and intellectual achievements,”
What are they Ian Mevorach did not say!
Rev g says
But I don’t recognize HuffPo as journalism.
Preacher says
If one does not know the doctrine of Christianity how can they discuss what is correct or incorrect regarding the faith?
Do you know that Christ sends to us His Spirit from heaven by a promise of Acts 2:38-39 to anyone who believes that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and was crucified to redeem us from sin?
With redemption from sins through water baptism calling on Jesus name, and the Spirit being a guarantee of eternal life and power in this life for those that walk after the Spirit and not after the flesh (Romans 8:1), a Christian need not look further for the God who is Salvation, for the God who is the Way, the Truth and the Life, for the God who is the Resurrection, for the God who has revealed the name by which we all must be saved, the name which is higher than any other name, the name of the family in heaven, and the name of the family on Earth for those that have chosen to be adopted by the Father of Jesus Christ by obedience to His Gospel of Acts 2:38-39. If anyone preaches a different Gospel of God and Salvation they will be accursed. In Jesus Holy Name, every knee shall bow and every tongue will confess one thing, that Jesus Christ is Lord who alone is the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords, and there is no other God besides Jesus Christ.
A Christian knows Jesus is God( they do not hope ), and that this is the beginning of the knowledge that takes us safely into eternity. The road is narrow and there be few that find salvation, so you must seek truth with a pure heart, and ask Jesus to reveal to you who is God, and Jesus, who sits on the throne of God with all power in heaven and earth will bless you with understanding that He alone saves, and He alone is God. Follow Acts 2:38-39 to be saved for without the Spirit you are not Christ’s, and anyone that claims Jesus Christ is not God manifest in the flesh has not sought any truth in this life by petitioning our Creator. In Jesus name I pray for those that will repent and find an Apostolic Church to continue their life’s journey toward the eternal fellowship we will enjoy with Jesus Christ or Lord, Jesus Christ our God, and Jesus Christ our Savior, as co-inheritors of all that our Lord Jesus Christ has inherited from the Father, for the Christian Church and the Christian Church alone is the Bride of Christ, and we shall be like Him and we shall have all things in common with our glorious God, the Lord Jesus Christ.
Bada Bhai says
Seeing as you pervert Pope has been washing and kissing migrant feet …you may as well go the whole hog…
Top Tip: Never follow a Pope who kisses and washes migrant parts
gravenimage says
It has nothing to do with these being migrants–that is, in fact, very much in line with Christian thought and practice.
It is their being Muslims with is problematic.
linnte says
I can’t even read this article. Makes me want to vomit. What did Muhammad PROPHESY? Absolutely nothing.There is a huge difference between making prophecy and creating a religion.
Stephen Hall says
A man who ordered Christians to be killed for being Christian, should be a Christian prophet?
Lay off the LSD.
Tom_S says
I remember when Flip Wilson created “The Church of What’s Happening Now” as part of his comedy routine in the mid-60’s. Who knew that within a decade the Corporate Denominations would adopt, and mainstream, the fundamental principle that morals and the life and teachings of Jesus are only a malleable narrative that can be modified to fit the “hustle” used to flimflam the gullible. Unfortunately what is going on now is much more serious than merely shaking down the chumps for donations to the multibillion dollar endowment of a Corporate Denomination.
Religion is too important to be left in the hands of theologians: in other words, “God deliver me from experts.”
Mark Swan says
Good One Tom_S
Ex-muslim says
Many people in the West very wrongly think that muslims will stop their jihad and become friendly of Christians accept mohamed as prophet or give more things to muslims or release jihadists and give them money, or build more mosques, or support the jihadists that are at war with their governments etc.
They don’t know that muslims are taught by islam that they should never love infidels (the kuffar) until infidels convert or pay protection tax/become subdued slaves or die.
gravenimage says
Ex-muslim wrote:
Many people in the West very wrongly think that muslims will stop their jihad and become friendly of Christians accept mohamed as prophet…
……………………
Actually, no. This is not a common belief of Christians at all–in the West or otherwise.
fudge says
I was deaf and blind, possessed with demons, Jesus was the only one that healed me. Not Muhammad the devils prophet. So Jesus is the son of Allah, so you convert or you will go to hell with the virgin demons and stay with them. Also I have the power in Jesus name, to clear your demons off.
Jay Boo says
The Puff HO has thus spoken.
Dhimmis will be rode until broken.
KrazyKafir says
Which should take about 20 seconds.
Wellington says
A profiteer, yes. A prophet, hell no. What a useful idiot Mevorach is.
DP111 says
Fine as long as Muslimas recognise that Jesus is God.
Mark Swan says
They Will Soon Enough
Ian says
Christians do recognise him as a prophet; THE FALSE PROPHET FROM THE BOOK OF REVELATION.
mortimer says
A person who ‘accepts’ Mohammed as a valid prophet is called a ‘Muslim’.
80% of humans believe Mohammed was either a fabricated legend or malignant cult leader.
mortimer says
A person who believes the Apostles’ Creed is called a ‘Christian’. Apparently, Craig Considine does not believe the Apostles’ Creed.
CogitoErgoSum says
There is no way I can accept Jesus and Muhammad as both having been sent by God and still believe in the “truth.” It would mean that there is no such thing as a contradiction. It’s like saying that “yes” and “no” have the same meaning …. which would also mean that lying and telling the truth do not really matter. It means there is no such thing as right or wrong, good or evil …. and if there is no such thing as good or evil then any religion which teaches such an idea is false. But then, there is no such thing as true or false, is there? What the ??????? This man is making the argument for the belief that everything is meaningless ……. even his own argument.
mortimer says
CES writes: ” It would mean that there is no such thing as a contradiction”.
That question is raised by the Law of Non-Contradiction.
In logic, the law of noncontradiction (also called the law of contradiction) states, in the words of Aristotle, that “one cannot say of something that it is and that it is not in the same respect and at the same time”.
The Muslim philosopher Avicenna wrote: “Anyone who denies the law of non-contradiction should be beaten and burned until he admits that to be beaten is not the same as not to be beaten, and to be burned is not the same as not to be burned.”
Avicenna’s works are condemned by modern mullahs because he rejected abrogation and dualism.
CogitoErgoSum says
Thanks, mortimer. I was not aware of that quote from Avicenna. I love it.
In re-reading my own statement above I see I could have made it clearer if I had said “…and if there is no such thing as good or evil, any religion which teaches such an idea (i.e., that good and evil exist) is false.”
Champ says
Ian Mevorach has GOT to be kidding and he’s a lying fool …
The evil life of muhammad does *not* reflect the teachings of Jesus Christ!
Ian needs to stop calling himself a Christian, convert to islam, and be done with it. End of story.
mortimer says
What Ian Mevorach believes: “Freedom—we are a non-creedal community of faith where each person is free to discern and express what he or she believes.”
The real creed of the Common Street Spiritual Center appears to be what is called ‘radical universalism’, the doctrine that teaches that ‘all religions are basically the same’. His creed is a spiritualized for of cultural Marxist ideology…a secularized, New-Agey, feel-good ‘spirituality’ mixed with non-fattening Marxism and Buddhist chanting… not discernably ‘Christian’ in any theological manner.
‘Radical universalism’ as a philosophy is self-refuting, because all of the world religions contradict one another in fundamental ways and ‘radical universalism’ contradicts ALL the others by claiming that they are not contradictory. This refutes the thesis that all religions are the same because ‘radical universalism’ is unique and different.
What Ian Mevorach and his ‘feel-good’ groupies fail to recognize is that, though many world religions contain a version of the Golden Rule, Islam does not. Not anywhere. Islam is based on a dual code of ethics, one for supporting fellow Muslims and a second code for the subjugation of kafirs. Most humans are kafirs and the Koran hates kafirs passionately. Two-thirds of the Koran says that Allah hates them and wishes Muslims to stop their rebellion. Only Muslims who kill these rebels or get killed while attacking kafirs are assured salvation.
I encourage Ian Mevorach to verify the lack of an Islamic Golden Rule himself by searching for a clear Islamic expression of the Golden Rule, but I don’t think he will do the search, because it will overthrow his ‘radical universalism’. He will likely continue to ‘assume’ that ‘radical universalism’ is true even though I have shown how it refutes itself.
How can Koran 48.29 be reconciled with the Golden Rule? It can’t.
andy from the cross says
this must be bollocks, then…
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Mirren10 says
”this must be bollocks, then…”
Ali Sina is an ex muslim. See below what he has to say about the Golden Rule in islam.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/05/islam-and-the-golden-rule
Miao Zedong says
Do people at the Huffpo recognize Jesus as the prophet or Messias ? Do they believe in “prophets” ?
mortimer says
Huffpo’s secular religion is called ‘cultural Marxism’. It is doctrinaire, but flexible and changes with political fashion.
Cultural Marxism’s ‘prophets’ are poets like John Lennon, Pete Seeger, Bob Dylan, Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Alinsky, Nelson Mandela, Bill Clinton. Jesus is just another ‘poet’ for them…to be quoted when they like it, and ignored when a contradiction comes up. In the manner of Hinduism, they have no problem putting contradictory ‘poets’ on the same shelf together. It’s only poetry…or song lyrics…not ‘real’ prophecy that we’re talking about here. Heck, let’s put Mohammed on the shelf with the others. We’ll ignore the pedophilia thing.
Huffpo’s secular religion is New-Agey, sticky-gooey, non-creedal, contradictory, cherry-picking, woolly-minded fluff ready to change with every gust of the winds of fashion.
James DeRuvo says
2 Peter 2:1 ►
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But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them–bringing swift destruction on themselves.
Dan Jones says
Mo-ham-is-mad was a pedophile… no thanks…
More End Time News At:
http://www.shininginthedark.com/?page_id=7760
Eagle says
Mushead Muhammad is truly a cult leader that got away with being a pedophile, murderer, war monger and was one of the first to promote slavery. There are all varieties of individual musheads that can’t fit in with the majority of human beings, they that lack the confidence and the abilities to enjoy God’s wonderful world. They envy the infidels for their appreciation of their quality of life. Mushead Muhammad’s cult can not be comfortable with the truth about themselves. Musheads are a defective culture that will not assimilate or change to improve their mentally ill ways. God made all men with a free spirit with the ability to choose there way through life.
Gilchrist says
Why would anyone take HuffPo seriously? What else would you expect from a small minded community of anti-Christian bigots?
somehistory says
In Matthew 24, are recorded Jesus’s words about this very thing. Christ said, “false prophets will arise and mislead many.” He said we would hear of a “prophet” or even a “Christ” being here or there, in the “wilderness”…but we are not to listen, we are not to go out to meet these false ones wherever they may be..
This is exactly the thing about which Jesus warned us. Any Christian worth his or her *salt* will not believe what this idiot is saying.
The Bible says that there would not be anything *added* to God’s Word when it was finished and that the one adding…or taking away…would be cursed.
As the days of the end of this system under which we are living grow ever shorter, the warnings Jesus gave are even more valuable and important to us. We have to avoid being pressured into believing lies.
Everything this guy said is drivel. Dangerous drivel to any who think he is right.
Guest says
“Christians recognize Muhammad as a prophet?” Never! Christ is my king and savior, he loved all man and died to save their souls.
Muhammad was a murderer, rapist, and a monster. That man was no messenger of God and I will never see him as one.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
I do not have space in this article to explore the many Qur’anic verses directly addressed to…
… the murder of Jews and Christians, and other types of Infidels. There is just not enough space here. But if we could accept these calls for mass murder and terror, but if we were to receive them our terror prevention costs would plummet along with our terror caused death rate.
mortimer says
The Koran’s 164 Jihad Verses: K 002:178-179, 190-191, 193-194, 216-218, 244; 003:121-126, 140-143, 146, 152-158, 165-167,169, 172-173, 195; 004:071-072, 074-077, 084, 089-091, 094-095,100-104; 005:033, 035, 082; 008:001, 005, 007, 009-010, 012, 015-017, 039-048,057-060, 065-075; 009:005, 012-014, 016, 019-020, 024-026, 029,036, 038-039, 041, 044, 052, 073, 081, 083,086, 088, 092, 111, 120, 122-123; 016:110; 022:039, 058, 078; 024:053, 055; 025:052; 029:006, 069; 033:015, 018, 020, 023, 025-027, 050; 042:039; 047:004, 020, 035; 048:015-024; 049:015; 059:002, 005-008, 014; 060:009; 061:004, 011, 013; 063:004; 064:014; 066:009; 073:020; 076:008
Hello Mr. Mevorach! There are all the jihad verses that you will need to follow the example of Mohammed.
Thomas says
Nothing will have you scurrying back to connect with your biblical roots faster than an education in Islam. Once you identify who Mohamed’s Gabriel actually was, everything that has happened since then becomes crystal clear.
underbed cat says
That statement Thomas is totally true…”Nothing will have you scurrying back to connect with your biblical roots faster than an education in Islam.” A few hours of reading and you know you have wondered into darkness and want to pull out your Bible to feel the light of goodness.
James M says
Mohammed is a prophet – a false prophet.
Nigel GFF says
1.6 billion flies eat tish.
Do I need to change my diet?
Me-You-I-We-Us-Them says
nope!
Biff Stew says
Prove that Muhammad ever existed first before you demand that anyone should pay any attention whatsoever to his screed.
mortimer says
Mevorach wants to bring Christianity ‘into balance’ with Islam and Judaism…presumably through dropping the central Christian doctrine of the Trinity.
If Mevorach is thinking of a Koranic verse directed specifically to Christians it would be this one:
“So believe in God and His Messengers, and say not, ‘Three,’ Refrain; better is it for you. God is only One God. Glory be to Him” (Sura al-Nisa’ 4:169).
Without the doctrine of the Trinity and the Apostles’ Creed, Christianity isn’t Christian.
Mevorach has a creed in mind, but refuses to tell people what it is. This is dishonest.
Allen says
you want us to go against everything we stand and believe in, over my dead body!!!!
Angry Citizen says
Recognise mu-ham-mad (a curse be upon it) as a prophet.
I recognise this;
Galatians 1:8-9 King James
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Western Canadian says
First, recognize mohamed as a prophet, then recognize hitler as a prophet…. Sounds about right. To this ignorant prostitute and his superficial or outright dishonest (bought and paid for) drivel.
Mike says
Mohammed does not reach the level of a prophet. He did not predict anything that has come to be. He merely produced a book, the Quran, which steals beliefs from the Torah and New Testament, perverting the beliefs by ordering Muslims to kill anyone who is not Muslim.
To suggest that Jews and Christian accept Mohammed as a prophet and Allah as god is ludicrous.
Angry Citizen says
Everytime a muslim or an apologist tells me we worship the same GOD and Mad Mo is the Last Prophet, I curse him. So far they have not tried to take my head, but I have been threatened.
Sir Harry says
Sure, Mohammed is a Prophet of Death who raped, pillaged, enslaved men and women and murdered countless souls for his evil thirst of blood. Mohammed is not in Paradise, he is floating in a pool of lava that has been searing him for centuries. His followers are learning they were fools to follow his example.
Ron A Muckler says
When Islam, quits saying that Mohammad is the holy Ghost, which is the greates of blasphemies I might consider it,
Kepha says
Dear Huffington Post:
Let’s up the ante. Why don’t you call on evolutionary materialists to repudiate the dogmatism of the HUmanist Manifestoes and recognize the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as the one true God existing as one substance and three persons?
@Ron A. Muckler: Maybe there is a bigger blasphemy that saying Muhammad is the Holy Spirit–but I thank God that I’m not so sure that I’ve heard it yet.
Raja says
Kepha,
Late Gaddafi referred to Mohd for Holy Spirit who was to be sent after Jesus’s departure from the earth. The galling thing was the West leaders didn’t even ask him to leave those nonsense (when they were meeting/shaking hands with him) but were probably having a wry smile. So much for the greed of oil!!!!! The world didn’t need so much oil in 1950’s and later, it was more of luxury. I guess much of the oil was exhausted during the industrial revolution in the West except for North sea/Alaska etc. The Wahabism (which is a formidable evil) was nurtured in the 1970’s by the Saudis according to a jailed former PM of Mauritius. The desire to kill all non Muslims stems from Koran and its blind followers/Islamic states.
The Bible is replete with verses that warn of the evil one to come/ to be revealed.Jesus too prophesied that thieves would come after Him. The prophecy of the coming of Holy Spirit to the disciples and Christians has been replaced FOR Mohd by Muslim proselytes including Muslim zealots.
Vladimir Val Cymbal says
Qur’anic verses directly addressed to Christians like “don’t make friends with the people of the book(Bible)” or ” today we kill the Saturday people (Jews) tomorrow it’s the Sunday people (Christians. Jesus preached forgiveness, love, and peace. Muhammad was a pillaged, robbed, raped, and murdered civilians most who were in no position to offer any resistance. He enslaved women and children and was a pedophile raping girls as young as 9 years. He recruited the dregs of society and directing them to commit horrific acts against humanity. These were men with no employable skills. He convinced them they can continue with their criminal activity and Allah will approve their actions if they share their booty with Muhammad. He set up a criminal enterprise much like the gangs of NY, Chicago, Philly and other places. Muhammad has nothing to offer a Christian that is of any value.
JR says
Let me explain a thing or 2 to you. 1 it will be a cold day in hell before I accept that garbage you call Mohammed. 2 . Jesus Christ is Lord of all and every eyes will see Him every knee will bow and call Jesus Lord of Lords and King of Kings . The Alpha the Omega the beginning and the end. His is Risen . Jesus was born of a virgin crucified and Rose on the 3rd day to claim victory over death hell and the grave. Thank you Jesus
gravenimage says
There is no better candidate than Muhammad, no one in fact that comes even close, in terms of fulfilling Jesus’s promise of the Spirit of Truth who would bring forth a new revelation from God…
………………………….
Even more than ripping the core of Christianity apart–that is, in denying that Jesus is the Savior–for me is *this*: that by positing that Jesus considered Muhammed as the ‘fulfillment’ of his message, that would mean that the Prince of Peace has rejected everything he stood for, and has accepted the horror of deeming a war lord, pedophile, caravan-raider, slaver, rapist, and mass-murderer the perfect man.
Certainly, this is what Islam would have us believe.
That a (nominally) Christian theologian would also believe this means that he either understands nothing about Islam–or he understands nothing about Christianity.
One can only hope he is utterly ignorant–because the alternative is much, much worse.
Ultimately, it would mean that we would throw out all Christian ethics, and instead embrace a creed that sacralizes the rape of small children and mass-slaughter of unbelievers. *Horrifying*.
Kepha says
Gravenimage, liberalized Christian circles are rife with ignorance parading as superior wisdom.
The Gospel of John tells us that John the Baptist identified Jesus as both the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world (Jn. 1:29, 36) and the one who baptizes with the Holy Spiirt (Jn.!:33). Jesus tells Nicodemus in the famous “born again” passage (Jn. 3) that we must be born again of water and the Spirit. He tells the Samaritan woman in chapter 4 that the time is coming when the worship offered on Gerizim and at Jerusalem will be obsolete, supplanted with woship in “Spirit and in truth”. Jesus speaks of the Holy Spirit also as living water, which he will give those who believe. And in the end, after Jesus atoned for our sins on the cross and rose from the dead, he breathed on his disciples so they might receive the Holy Spirit (A summary of what Luke gives us at the opening of Acts).
To say that a desert warlord who pretended to be a prophet is indeed the Holy Spirit or is the best possible candidate for the position shows a profound ignorance of what the New Testament is teaching. My guess is that the stubble showing on Ian Mevorach’s face is that of one newly converted to Islam. That the Huffington Post puts forth his folly as if it is the way to find inter-confessional peace is possible only because of the arrogant ignorance that seems to have infested Left-Liberal circles from the late 1970’s on.
According to Paul (whom both Muslims and 1960’s-vintage theological liberals love to hate while knowing next to nothing about him), the Holy Spirit is the one who causes us to confess Jesus as Lord–not Muhammad as a greater “prophet” (I Corinthians 12:3). It is also clear that the Holy Spirit was busy working through the Christians of the First Century A.D., long before Muhammad was even born.
For any serious Christian who knows about the work of the Holy Spirit, Muhammad, if the Qur’an, Hadith, and Sira are correct about him, was a decidedly inferior person forging a not-so-clever counterfeit. For those who know Christ in these days, people like Merovach should be anathema (Gal. 1:9). His “Christianity” seems at best to be a kind of theological liberalism that always searches, but never comes to a settled knowledge of truth. I, for one, see him as a far worse “Christian” teacher than the current Pope, for whom I have scant regard to begin with.
I wonder: in the past, did Merovach call on Christians to get “in balance” with militant evolutionary materialism?
As for being in balance with Judaism and Islam, that is not the life to which Christ has called us. Yes, we should show compassion and the love of God to Jews and Muslims (a lot of others, too), but must disagree when the one denies that the Messiah has come and the other makes the Messiah a mere forerunner of a supposedly greater, so-called prophet.
Carmel says
Mohammed should be recognized as a prophet by christians and archeologists should try to find the bones of the Burrika , the horse with wings that bring Mohammed from Mecca to Jerusalem , 2000 km , back and forth in the same night , which means he was flying at 500 km /h .
How comes we don’t find anymore the 6 glass domes that use to be over our head in Mohammed’s time . Did the Nasa break it with the spatial program in the 60 ‘s or the Russians with Gagarine or Leika .
With Huffingpost , for sure , we are in the area of enlightment . What about their other aricles?
donttreadonmeweb says
So what Mr. Mevorach is telling us is that god sent us a prophet to tell us to “hate the Jews, the Christians and the infidels” and that he ( Allah ) is ” the best deceiver” and that it’s ok to beat women, to kill homosexuals, to kill infidels, kill anyone that leaves their religion, kill adulterers, if woman is not dressed properly or is not being escorted by a man that she’s asking to be raped. I could go on and on and on, the Quran is full of ammo. Mr. Mevorach is obviously not very educated or his agenda lines up with the Obama administration.
Holy Ncube says
Mahamad is a prophet of the devil..He has nothing to do with The Gospel of The Good News of God and Jesus Christ…
We Christians live by Faith in Christ..not by what some reporter says..The Word of God which is Christ is clear..Only Faith in Jesus Christ provides for Salvation…Not mahamad and his demonic teachings inspired by the devil…
TH says
This guy wants Christians to reject a fundamental tenet of Christianity. that there is no further publicly valid revelation after the New Testament.
Champ says
Anyone that subscribes to Ian’s wrongheaded way of thinking reveals what a dummie they are, and that they don’t know *anything* about scripture and the holy trinity: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. And Ian calls himself a “Theologian”, when he’s really a snake oil salesman, and a lousy one at that.
Al Coholic says
Muhammad – if he even existed – was a prophet, a false prophet. And the Bible warns us to avoid their teachings.
clayusmcret says
Sorry, I don’t recognize child sex abusers or blood thirsty criminals as prophets.
No Fear says
Christians should accept a pedo, a murderer, a killer of Jews, a man who encouraged his henchmen to rape, a military commander, a thief, a torturer……..as a prophet?
Don’t make me laugh……..
The Quran was designed as a manual for subjugation of all other religions.
Truth Seeker says
What else is Needed to conclude Westerners are digging own Grave. Biblical Prophets were Simple and Humble. None of them Married Daughter in law, Married girl child, Not Boasters, Not Egoists, Not demanded Respect. Did not lead Gangster Operations. Besides God performed Miracles through them. No Miracle, Not Prophet of God.
Accepting Muhammad as prophet is nothing but Embracing Islam. End Times.
TopDrifter says
Amen, Truth Seeker…
Ralph Horace says
I’m happy to regard Muhammed as a psychotic, psychopathic slave trading paedophile because that is documented fact. As for religious delusions…
Bob Wierdsma says
Muhammad, like Joseph Smith, Charles “Taze” Russell, etc. is a false prophet who has deceived billions of people with his false message, on the road to destruction.
Bill Spath says
Mohammed was nothing more than pedophile and a butcher.. Any fool that can read the history of the muslum conquests and slaughters would have the sense to know he was nothing more than an early representation of Hitler….
TopDrifter says
“No way Jose, Mohammmaddd was a Pedophile and bragged to his inbred following to make it their quest to violate children and rob their childhood. I cannot declare Mohammmadddass anything but a Charlatan, a liar, a child molesting P.O.S!
BlueRaven says
Ian Mevorach is a dangerous MORON. He knows no jack $hit.
Ravnrey says
Let’s compare Jesus and Muhammad
Muhammad:
– Stoned women for adultery. (Muslim 4206)
– Permitted stealing from unbelievers. (Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)
– Permitted lying. (Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)
– Owned and traded slaves. (Sahih Muslim 3901)
– Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys. (Sahih Muslim 4390)
– Murdered those who insulted him. (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)
– If then anyone transgresses the prohibition against you,Transgress ye likewise against him” (Qur’an 2:194)
– Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves. (Bukhari 5:268, Qur’an 33:50)
– Slept with a 9-year-old child. (Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)
– Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women. (Abu Dawood 2150, Qur’an 4:24)
– Ordered the murder of women. (Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)
– Was never tortured, but tortured others. (Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)
– Advocated crucifying others. (Qur’an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)
– Died fat and wealthy from what was taken from others in war or demanded from others in tribute.
Jesus:
– “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” (John 8:7)
– “Thou shalt not steal.” (Matthew 19:18)
– “Thou shalt not bear false witness.” (Matthew 19:18)
– Neither owned nor traded slaves.
– Beheaded no one.
– Preached forgiveness. (Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38)
– “If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.”(Matthew 5:39)
– Was celibate.
– Did not have sex with children.
– Never harmed a woman.
– Never encouraged rape. Never enslaved women.
– Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.
– Was crucified himself.
– Demanded nothing for himself. Died without possessions.
I think NOT he was a prophet!
Lafe Tolliver says
People of God: Mark people such as this Ivan fellow and stay away from him and his abominable teachings.
He does not know the scriptures and is in gross error. For him to elevate and exalt Mohammed is a gross
lie. Ivan is deluded and wants others to be deluded. Whatever he writes, trash it. He should have no credibility with anything Christ like because he, likfe Mohammed are tone deaf to the teachings and character of Jesus the Christ.
Truly, these are last days when such non Biblical gibberish is treated as a serious article. Simply go to the library and check out books about this Mohammed character and you will be dumbfounded at his lifestyle and beliefs. Read for yourself and stay far away from Ivan M.
Hans Matthysen says
Isa 5:13 Therefore my people are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with thirst.
Kepha says
I’m sure the editors of HuffPuffPo think they’re very wise and advanced for publishing idiocy like Considine’s and Mevorach’s. However, they do nothing but reveal how utterly ignorant of any theological tradition they are.
As for Mevorach, he’s a Muslim pure and simple. He dusts off the kind of slop someone like Ahmad Deedat peddles, and uses Islam’s [apparent] worldly success to “prove” that the Holy Spirit was something other than the Third Person of the Trinity descended on the church on the Pentecost following the Resurrection.
lilyred says
If those damned Christians would just shut up and submit, it would be a wonderful world, right? They keep blowing up things and killing people and cutting off heads. They won’t submit to allah, the great. They are the problem. Right. It’s not islamophobia when they really are trying to kill you.
Mark A says
The Huffington Post and Ian Mevorach express opinions I totally disagree with.
I don’t read the Huffington Post but I will make sure to avoid it completely after reading this article.
Guest says
God’s not dead.
Champ says
Go ahead and smile for the camera Ian! …but one day the Truth about muhammad will hit you upside the head like a ton of bricks and wipe that *ridiculous* smile right off of your face! A smackdown you truly deserve because there’s no excuse for being so stupid.
Behold his hapless smile and face as another one of islam’s useful idiots!
Yeah Ian deserves some kind of an award for being so stupid. And a Dhimmi Award isn’t quite it …
Makes me sooo angry at how STUPID and misleading he is.
And for heavens sake stop calling yourself a Christian, you LIAR, because you are *not* a disciple of Jesus Christ!
You have sided with evil muhammad, so you are a disciple of satan and of hell! Good riddance to you, slave of allah.
Marco says
Rather serve God who through Jesus Christ said love you enemy and not a god that says kill the unbelievers of Islam.
Thomas says
Muhammad was a murdering thug, petifile, and thief.
Keith says
Lets not forget he tried to commit suicide!
Dean says
The scariest thought is that HP may actually understand what the Muslim idol is all about and still want to claim that he should be honored as a prophet. The twisted conclusion to multiculturalism and moral relativism is a virulent anti-Americanism that embraces anything and everybody, even idols, that will weaken and destroy America. American simply represents their opposite and when they feel smug, it follows for them that everything about America is evil and must be destroyed.
Jim says
Mohammed was a pedophile and brigand, nothing more. He managed to gather a large following of those wishing to gain from his violent criminal escapades, and from there Islam grew.
It is about violent conquest and subjugation. Anyone not seeing that is a fool.
Objective History: 101
Blaise Major says
Christianity is not a club or a fraternity. Jesus was not a prophet and Muhammad was not a prophet. Jesus was mankind’s Savior and reconnection with our Creator. Muhammad was a murdering, barbaric child molesting scumbag, probably inspired by Satan himself. Anyone who would suggest that Christianity could accept any part of this is a lost soul.
Jerry says
Recognise the Plunderer for Profit as a Prophet?
Fake “Prophet” to fake “God” of a fake “religion”.
Vrae says
What’s weird is that the article tried to deny the antecedent entirely and ignore the verse where Spirit of Truth is defined (14:26, see also 14:17 ). He’s trying to cherrypick verses and ignore others by pretending that it is ambiguous. Truly this is a corruption of meaning.
Here’s something weird about his name theory: the Muslim version required it to be different.
, ://answering-islam.org/Index/P/paraclete_and_periklutos.html
In other words, he doesn’t know what he is talking about.
The true Comforter abides forever.
Also, he should read John 6:14 on the Deuteronomy thing. Jesus was one of their brethren, because it only referred to Israelites.
“And there has not arisen a prophet since in Israel like Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face, none like him for all the signs and wonders which the Lord sent him to do in the land of Egypt, to Pharaoh and to all his servants and to all his land, and for all the mighty power and all the great and terrible deeds which Moses performed in the sight of all Israel. ”
In this respect, no.
Muhammad glorified himself above Jesus and all other prophets. He just said nice things about Jesus.
The Holy Spirit can speak to the hearts. He does reprove the world invisibly. Hears? I don’t know.
How can a normal person proceed from (ekporeuomai) God?
“Sent” is ambiguous. Proceed from is not.
Vrae says
Jesus is involved in sending the Comforter.(16:7) The Comforter must come in the name of Jesus.(14:26) Muhammed may have had nice things to say about Jesus, but he was not a prophet in the name of Jesus. 14:26 is included with Papyrus 66, a near-complete manuscript.
John – Chapter 16
9. Of sin, because they believe not on me;
It doesn’t make sense to say that Muhammad was particularly concerned with the idea that people needed to believe in Jesus or were thus sinning. Christ would have just been part of his “package deal”.
To make matters worse, there is an incident in their beliefs where Muhammad said something that God did not ask him to speak, but rather that the devil supposedly tricked him into speaking(Q. 22:51-52) that is recorded in major biographies like Ibn Ishaq, Tabari, Ibn Sa’d.
This would further affect his Eligibility as per Deuteronomy.
David says
In the HADITH, (an-english-translation), there was written that Muh… had vision, from which, the whole of Muslim-Catachism was born. No-one-else had these visions or saw what Muh…saw. In today’s parlance, he wud’ b considered a SCHIZOID/SCHIZOPHRENIC-personality and that is the baisis of the whole of ISLAM. Is it any-wonder, that in 1400-years of existence, the spread of ISLAM has been the cause of over 290-millions deaths?
When Muh…and his followers went on their raids, 20% of all valuables and people-not-killed were considered as ‘booty’ and considered Muh’s….share. So, the man was a HIGHWAY-ROBBER, to boot.
Nice bases for a religion, eh ?
sherri says
54 year old self proclaimed prophet rapes 9 year old girl calls it a marriage ordered from God.
Safiya 17 year old Jewish girl on the night her husband (tortured to death for not telling mohumad where the city treasures were), her father and brothers were all murdered by Mohumads gangs forced her into marriage and he raped her that same night.
He forced his adopted son to divorce his wife so he could marry her.
Multiple sex slaves
Forces huis religion on nearby cities, killed the men forced children and women sex slaves/slaves. He is nothing but a cult leader who raped women and children. His heaven is about women who stay virgins over and over again. Get real people!
Mr Duff says
He was no prophet of the living God, the Creator and King of Kings God, no his book testifies against him. Mohammed was more like a prophet of hell; a messenger of Satan.
Hoekom Jy My Haat says
Old Mo’ was not a prophet. The times of the prophets ended with the birth of Christ. No more prophets came after that. Sorry, toots, but that’s that!
comnp1958 says
Muhammad was not and never will be a Prophet. When will the world wake up and realise that Muhammad is another name for Satan, and this barbaric practice of Islam is a joke .
I don’nt understand this love affair of islam, even Obama promotes this BS.
Wake up world the devil is standing next you and his name is Muhammad.
Wayne says
He’s a prophet, A FALSE PROPHET!! Get a clue LIBTARDS!
Luis says
It is said the Anti-Christ does everything the opposite Jesus did. Jesus promoted: forgiveness, heal the sick, llove your neighbor, do not judge, lest ye be judged by the same balance you used etc.
Muhammed practices and promotes the opposite- peace- by force, concede or die. Dont forgive, kill the non-believers. THey also deny the Christ as crucified and was the son of God.
Jesus said the beast has a number of a man is 666 and to watch for it and do not take it. Muslims think 666 is a holy number- shit u not, ask a muslim. . Revelations was written In greek ,the greek 666 looks like a fancy W. That fancy W written in Arabic means “In Allahs name”. Who in Islam “speaks for Allah?” Look at the ISIS flags see if you spot it. THen you decide.
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Gene Moss says
Lets see them recognize Jesus Christ as their savior instead. Then we will have balance.
Seth Phillips says
If Mohamed was a prophet in his youth, for an absolute certainty he went very bad. He rejects Christ as the Messiah or Son, and so to accept Mohamed’s teachings as true, all of the 12 disciples must be rejected as false and misleading. Christianity would become Islam – and by his definition, following him is Islam. Believing Mohamed is Islam – and destroying all others is his prime command. All who follow mohamed MUST DESTROY ALL who refuse to obey THE LAWS OF iSLAM including every hateful thought written in mohamed’s racist quran. EVERY SINGLE MOHAMED FOLLOWER IS IN A WAR AGAINST EVERY CHRISTIAN PERSON AND EVERYONE WHO REFUSES TO OBEY SHARIA LAW, THE LAW OF MOHAMED – WAR TO THE DEATH. THEY ARE UNDER COMMAND TO LIE AND POPULATE AND INFILTRATE THEIR WAY INTO OUR SOCIETY AND DESTROY US ALL! What peace is possible?