Sometimes it’s the little things that are most telling. In Switzerland it has long been customary for students to shake the hands of their teachers at the beginning and end of the school day. It’s a sign of solidarity and mutual respect between teacher and pupil, one that is thought to encourage the right classroom atmosphere. Justice Minister Simonetta Sommaruga recently felt compelled to further explain that shaking hands was part of Swiss culture and daily life.
And the reason she felt compelled to speak out about the handshake is that two Muslim brothers, aged 14 and 15, who have lived in Switzerland for several years (and thus are familiar with its mores), in the town of Therwil, near Basel, refused to shake the hands of their teacher, a woman, because, they claimed, this would violate Muslim teachings that contact with the opposite sex is allowed only with family members. At first the school authorities decided to avoid trouble, and initially granted the boys an exemption from having to shake the hand of any female teacher. But an uproar followed, as Mayor Reto Wolf explained to the BBC: “the community was unhappy with the decision taken by the school. In our culture and in our way of communication a handshake is normal and sends out respect for the other person, and this has to be brought [home] to the children in school.”
Therwil’s Educational Department reversed the school’s decision, explaining in a statement on May 25 that the school’s exemption was lifted because “the public interest with respect to equality between men and women and the integration of foreigners significantly outweighs the freedom of religion.” It added that a teacher has the right to demand a handshake. Furthermore, if the students refused to shake hands again “the sanctions called for by law will be applied,” which included a possible fine of up to 5,000 dollars.
This uproar in Switzerland, where many people were enraged at the original exemption granted to the Muslim boys, did not end after that exemption was itself overturned by the local Educational Department. The Swiss understood quite clearly that this was more than a little quarrel over handshakes; it was a fight over whether the Swiss would be masters in their own house, or whether they would be forced to yield, by the granting of special treatment, to the Islamic view of the proper relations between the sexes. It is one battle – small but to the Swiss significant – between o’erweening Muslim immigrants and the indigenous Swiss.
Naturally, once the exemption was withdrawn, all hell broke loose among Muslims in Switzerland. The Islamic Central Council of Switzerland, instead of yielding quietly to the Swiss decision to uphold the handshaking custom, criticized the ruling in hysterical terms, claiming that the enforcement of the handshaking is “totalitarian” (!) because its intent is to “forbid religious people from meeting their obligations to God.” That, of course, was never the “intent” of the long-standing handshaking custom, which was a nearly-universal custom in Switzerland, and in schools had to do only with encouraging the right classroom atmosphere of mutual respect between instructor and pupil, of which the handshake was one aspect. The Swiss formulation of the problem – weighing competing claims — will be familiar to Americans versed in Constitutional adjudication. In this case “the public interest with respect to equality” of the sexes and the “integration of foreigners” (who are expected to adopt Swiss ways, not force the Swiss to exempt them from some of those ways) were weighed against the “religious obligations to God” of Muslims, and the former interests found to outweigh the latter.
What this case shows is that even at the smallest and seemingly inconsequential level, Muslims are challenging the laws and customs of the Infidels among whom they have been allowed to settle. Each little victory, or defeat, will determine whether Muslims will truly integrate into a Western society or, instead, refashion that society to meet Muslim requirements. The handshake has been upheld and, what’s more, a stiff fine now will be imposed on those who continue to refuse to shake hands with a female teacher. This is a heartening sign of non-surrender by the Swiss. But the challenges of the Muslims within Europe to the laws and customs of the indigenes have no logical end and will not stop. And the greater the number of Muslims allowed to settle in Europe, the stronger and more frequent their challenges will be. They are attempting not to integrate, but rather to create, for now, a second, parallel society, and eventually, through sheer force of numbers from both migration and by outbreeding the Infidels, to fashion not a parallel society but one society — now dominated by Muslims.
The Swiss handshaking dispute has received some, but not enough, press attention. Presumably, it’s deemed too inconsequential a matter to bother with. But the Swiss know better. And so should we.
There’s an old Scottish saying that in one variant reads: “Many a little makes a mickle.” That is, the accumulation of many little things leads to one big thing. That’s what’s happening in Europe today. This was one victory for the side of sanity. There will need to be a great many more.

CrossWare says
It should be a simple issue: Article 17 of the ECHR
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Convention_on_Human_Rights#Article_17_-_abuse_of_rights
Dani Secreto says
Its called the Human RESPECT FACTOR for different cultures when you are homeless and they take you in. Dont bite the had that feeds you. The USA should fine people too.
J.K. Solomon says
ABSOLUTELY AGREE!!!!!! Don’t bite the hand that feeds you!!!
WorkingClassPost says
‘ mutual respect between instructor and pupil’ that’s a no no from lah lah, straight away.
Custos Custodum says
According to some reports, MALE teachers at the school were initially instructed to withhold handshakes from the two jihadi boys.
Richard says
Rubbish!
blitz2b says
Minerates, burquas, niqabs, facial hair with no mustaches and religiously polygamous men are highly offensive to me, so can we please the obnoxious religion that promotes all of the above?
CogitoErgoSum says
In Islam respect is a one way street that leads to a dead end.
WCM says
Indeed–very dead when dealing with Muslims.
I applaud the Swiss for standing up to totalitarianism again. May they have the strength to continue.
Lia says
Just so. Very much so.
Bear Tom says
It’s OK for them to fondle a woman’s buttocks, but not to touch her hand when others might be watching. Damned hypocrites.
WorkingClassPost says
I guess that’s because shaking a teacher’s hand does not hurt or humiliate her, so what’s in it for them?
Simone Fields says
There was a big debate on this story on L.B.C. (London Broadcasting Company) phone-in radio show. Also everyone on J.W. should watch this debate on British t.v. 2 weeks ago https://youtu.be/voXTB9T1e5I
Mirren10 says
*Very* heartening. Well done, Switzerland !
And I’ll bet those two mohammedan brats were following instructions …
Just a little test. But they got more than they bargained for !
Just a little pedantic correction, Mr. Fitzgerald if I may; it’s actually, “many a *muckle* makes a mickle”. 🙂
Mirren10 says
Oops.
That should be, ”Many a mickle makes a muckle”. 🙂
WorkingClassPost says
Thanks for clearing that up!
WCM says
Charming idiomatic expressions should be properly pronounced, inflected, and spelled correctly. e.g.,
ALLLLHHHHHAAAAAHUUUU, AAAAKKKKKBBBAAARRRR!
There you go. Did I get it right?
🙂
Hugh Fitzgerald says
Not pedantic at all: Many a mickle makes a muckle.
I’ll fess up to both correct correctors — I’ve gotten the right version wrong for years, knew that I was wrong, but still did it, because I so liked, and prefer, the sound of “many a little makes a mickle.” What you lose in alliteration you gain in assonance.
So even though I’m wrong, I’m going to keep giving my version in the hope that others will also prefer my version and who knows, maybe it will become an accepted variant.
Very bad of me, I know. Wild in the streets.
WCM says
“Assonance.”
Thank you for teaching me a new literary term.
Sincerely
Charli Main says
Sir,
English is a living and continually evolving language. New words and new meaning to existing words are added to the lexicon with each passing year.
Your variant of an old adage, is as valid as any other.
Panmelia says
I agree with Mirren10: the Scottish saying IS “Many a mickle maks (makes) a muckle”. Scotland is not far away from where I was brought up, so I heard this saying from an early age from Scots themselves.
Some Scots would insist on “Monny a mickle maks a muckle”. The emphasis should not be on assonance, the repetition of the vowel sounds in ‘little’ and ‘mickle’. Instead, the emphasis is on the alliteration, the repetition of the consonant sound ‘m’ in most of the words of the saying.
Mind you, I have nothing against vowel sounds, which is why I usually spell ‘allah’ as ‘allaaaarrgghh’. The repetition of the ‘a’ represents the elongation of the ‘ah’ sound when spoken by the demon’s adherents. The ‘arrgghh’ at the end is an onomatopoeic representation of the pain and suffering ‘allaaaarrgghh’ instructs should be visited on all those who have the intelligence not to believe in a nasty little demon ‘god’ of hate and inhumanity.
Before I go: yes! Yes!! YES!!! and Hooray for Switzerland! What a brave wee country with brave leaders. I hope they stick to their guns. In the UK our pathetic lot would have exempted the snotty boys from the handshake, then lifted the exemption after some mild protest from traditionalists, then restored the exemption after PC leftards and mudslime UK-haters had screamed their heads off with accusations of racism & izlammyfobeeyah flying all over the place.
Subsequently, a government message to all the nation’s schools ordering them to drop the handshakes because the mudslimes didn’t want to shake kuffar hands in case they became contaminated with thoughts of tolerance and respect for non-believers.
Concerned Indian says
Panmelia,you mentioned that subsequently the schools were told to drop the handshake.I think the Govt.climbed down,didn’t it?
Anyway,I would always keep these blokes at an arms length.When one welcomes them with roses,especially women,they start getting ideas.There is a lady in Austria who helped one migrant-who looked decent-and within a weeks time he asked for physical relationship.She didn’t accept.This speaks about their attitude.This appears at Gatestone Institute blog.
Now in Austria the present day Govt.is muzzling all who speak against migrants.Let’s hope this does not start everywhere.The Left Liberals are ruling the roost.I feel Europe’s gone.
Anne Smith says
The Swiss also kept themselves outside the EU – showing more sense than the stupid British Government.
Celtic says
These two sutdents actually are the sons of an Imam who is a known “radical” – meaning true follower of Islam. I’m Swiss and I can tell you that this Story is not over yet.
IZRS – which stands for Islamischer Zentralrat Schweiz – Islamic central council Switzerland, which functioned as intermediary between the School and the parents (since they can’t speak the swiss or the german language), already announced, that they would take this to court.
I’m still happy to live in a Country where we banned Minarets and don’t bow to These theocratic baffoons like other European countries often do – particularly Sweden as we all know.
PRCS says
Please keep us posted.
Andra says
Their father is Imam at the local mosque.
marble says
From creeping sharia to leaping sharia. If you don’t like it here, go home. If we were to go to your home, would you respect our right to our faith and so live by it to please the one true God?
Sam says
It is amazing that this stupid cult called Islam is literally getting away with stupidity over and over all over the world.
I can not blame Islam any more. The culprit is us infidels that we can not just say “Islam No More Anywhere”
When and where will we start fighting this stupid cult?
dsinc says
Hear, hear Sam. The sooner, the better.
Hope says
Muslims: Just assimilate or GTFO.
Christian says
Europe throw towel, prepare for dimee life:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/674203/sick-work-migrant-bring-12-MORE-children-2-MORE-wives-Europe-Denmark-Syria
jewdog says
If the Muslims students are forced to shake hands, then that will definitely be seen as a casus belli under Sharia. If there is a war, then the Muslim students can take their teachers as sex slaves. Rules is rules.
DFD says
Hi Folks,
not on topic, but you’ll enjoy this, at least some of you: An American Professor by name of John Prager, a 5 minute video about “progressives” and PC, it’s in English. I found this on this on the website of ‘Politically Incorrect’, it really is funny, it begins with the “Washington Redskins” Football Team, question: If this is wrong/offensive, then what about ‘Oklahoma’? Which is an Indian language double word, consisting of ‘Okla/Red’ and ‘Homa/People’. And it goes on like this, as cheeky as amusing… (well, to my mind)
see here: https://youtu.be/hiU20QjKPCo
Less amusing, to say the least, but pointing at things to come is an article at christian.org.uk dealing with comments by Chief Constable Simon Cole, UK Govt Extremism Chief. Saying: “Don’t make us the thought police.” And I am sure, that’s not just threatening in the UK. Worth reading.
See here: christian.org.uk/news/govt-extremism-chief-dont-make-us-the-thought-police/?e270516 — Sorry, you have to add the triple www in front yourselves.
Slightly better news from the same website refers to sharia in the UK, some of you may recall that I was drumming up support for an anti-sharia petition. The headline here being “Investigation into sharia law begins”, but of course, only how it affects women. Men don’t matter…
See here: christian.org.uk/news/investigation-into-sharia-law-begins/?e270516 Again, add www up front.
Jay Boo says
Muslims
Please learn about other cultures (before) deciding to relocate.
Do not wash feet in the public restroom toilet.
The world is not your personal footbath.
http://amusingthailand.com/funny-signs/dont-wash-feet-in-toilet/
abad says
Good for the Swiss.
At least their eyes are open to the fact that Muslims do NOT assimilate at all and have no intentions of doing so.
I think it is time for Europe to engage in a mass deportation of Muslims back to a nation where they will be more at home.
Saudi Arabia or Syria, for example.
Concerned Indian says
No matter what the Swiss traditions are,why insist upon a handshake with these ?This way the Swiss are inviting molestation from these blokes.It’s better to keep them away and at a safe distance.
They don’t know what is mutual respect.It’s only when YOU convert (or a more aggressive term is being used revert–meaning we are all Muslims when we are born.Later our parents MAKE us different so get back to purity) to Islam that I will not kill you and everything will be peaceful.
It’s a mistake to accept them into your society and still a greater mistake to try to assimilate them.Luring away your young ,vulnerable girls and “peacefully” converting them to Islam is their plot.With this HandShake business you are making the task easier.
Custos Custodum says
On the contrary, handshakes with teachers are a very easy and simple way to test loyalty.
Jay Boo says
I agree
Muslim men sexualize everything.
They “refused to shake the hands of their teacher, a woman, because, they claimed, this would violate Muslim teachings that contact with the opposite sex is allowed only with family members.”
Muslims expect us to believe that Islam’s sexually out of control pedophile Muhammad “respected” little Aisha by only “thighing” her for three long years until she was nine years old.
Pious bashful Muslim men by day.
Child rape gang stalkers by night.
Champ says
You just described a *hypocrite*, Jay Boo …
abad says
You might want to stop calling Muslim males men, Jay Boo.
They are nothing of the kind.
Real men have no qualms about shaking hands with women.
Besides, real men have a pair.
Everyone knows that Muslim males lack balls.
Concerned Indian says
Real men fight ISIS and other oppressive regimes and do not leave that to Kurdish and Yezidi women .Here these women appear more brave and deserving.
Celtic says
@Concerned Indian
I don’t mean to be harsh here – but Switzerland was never conqured by Muslims occupied by Muslims – nor were we enslaved and killed by the millions.
But the Hindus have been. And still you guys in India (I know it is not your fault) allowed Millions and Millions of Muslims into your Country – despite the war with Pakistan. This is shere madness.
The handshake will not cause any rape epidemic here – since foreigners who engage in rape or other serious crimes are deported.
Concerned Indian says
Thanks celtic for your reply.
I never said Switzerland was occupied by Islam.However,just note how the Opposition is being muzzled in Austria for just speaking against migrants.At least thst is what the incumbent head of the Govt.mentioned.As for Muslims in our country,they got Pakistan but many stayed back for selfish reasons and not patriotism.After independence there was this spirit of all inclusiveness and their leader Maulana Azad assured them safety.India kept its word
After all they are our own DNA as proved by various scholars now.It is difficult to deport them.In the case of Europe it’s different.Why able bodied men are allowed from a totally different culture?Women Kurdish and raped Yazidi women are fighting the ISIS just as majority of Syrians are still in Syria.The same applies to Iraqis,Afghans,Pakistanis.Why couldn’t the migrants be sent back to fight?
When our Muslims are the citizens they can’ t be deported.Migrants can be and they are bring admitted not because of humanitarian considerations since there are many nations where oppression is taking place.Do they all qualify?You have laws no doubt but see how they will be slowly tweaked in the name of assimilation.German leaders are using the religious Christian heads now to convince people about violence in Christianity.All the time the Leftists are reminding Germans about Nazi histoty.Now what have today’s Germans got to do with it?It is a ploy to MAKE them feel guilty and accept a totally new culture.It won’t be long for Switzerland to follow in the foot steps of Sweden,Germany and Austria.At least there should have been no false pretence of humanitarian reasons to accept them when all these nations want cheap labour and a young generation of tax payers to offset the older natives who take from the welfare state instead of giving.When falling birth rate of European nations is mentioned,how these Muslim Imams started talking about mating with Europeans and producing a white Muslim rate.Have you missed that?This is what many Muslims here in India tell us as a possibility.Let’s hope it is proved worng.My arguments about handshake were in this context.Regards
Wellington says
All this will fall on the deaf ears which Muslims possess overwhelmingly. Yes, it is laudable when anyone or any country stands up to the control-freak nature which oozes from one decrepit Islamic pore after another, but what is far more important to comprehend is that, speaking in the aggregate, the Islamic world NEVER LEARNS.
Tactical victories against the monstrous totalitarianism and control-freak religion which is the Islamic faith are not enough. What is imperative is an overall strategy in dealing with the gigantic threat Islam is to, let’s see here, freedom, equality under the law, women’s rights, fine alcohol, musical theater (let’s face it, the Islamic musical theater repertoire is pretty thin, now isn’t it?) and, in general, having fun in life (N.B., respecting this last characterization of Mo’s horrible creed I bring it up due to that extra sorry-ass excuse for a human being, i.e., the old malicious bastard, the Ayatollah Khomeini, who passed away in 1989 and who, I would bet my life on it, hasn’t enjoyed one, not even one, virgin since then).
The entire Islamic religion is sick to its core. This must be comprehended strategically. Tactics against this despicable religion are not enough. Time way overdue that all those who prize liberty and other good things FULLY comprehend this. Yes, think strategically and not just tactically.
PRCS says
“the Ayatollah Khomeini, who passed away in 1989 and who, I would bet my life on it, hasn’t enjoyed one, not even one, virgin since then).”
Heh!
Ninsuna says
Have you heard the recent news about the Islamist misconception about those posthumous virgins? Apparently there’s been a misinterpretation of words in the koran. What actually awaits them is raisins (yes, dried, wrinkled, withered fruit). Imagine all those crestfallen jihadis demanding a do-over.?
http://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2016/05/23/cnns-why-they-hate-us-examines-the-qurans-promise-of-72-raisins/
Demsci says
Wellington, the strategic thinking I like is:
I. Realise the great danger, threat, which may already be unstoppable and prepare for the worst. I give Fessitude this point.
II. Use Iterative thinking, experimenting, out from this general idea of danger, people can now do this using Big Data Analysis.
The idea is that we don’t need huge comprehensive strategies, which anyway almost always fail, due to unforeseen consequences. We can start with initial ideas and test, then analyze and adapt.
III. If you know what you are against; you can know what you are FOR. Use Islam as an absolute baseline. Do not see it as just bad or sick, but primarily as LOW. Because then you can formulate all those aspects of society that you want that are BETTER THAN ISLAM (teaches and causes).
IV. Since Islam is in many ways pre-democratic, un-democratic, anti-democratic, so in a sense “low democratic” juxtapose our goal to Islam’s goals as:
To defend, promote and refine Democratic pillars, laws, tenets, values that are better than Islam’s opposing laws.
V. Augment Democracy with something spiritual, like the now very practical “promotion of happiness” helped by new discoveries in Neuroscience.
Present Augmented Democracy to Muslims as a Democratic Happiness Alternative To Islam (DHATI) to Muslims. Do this in an experimenting way, analysing and adapting at every turn.
We can go about our strategy in 2 ways;
I. Is diminishing the opponents, which is an Islamic strategy too, with their eternal Tu Quoque-defense.
II. Respect your opponents, but produce something Better Than Islam and experiment until it works and attracts enough Westerners AND (Ex)Muslims.
Demsci says
It is now possible to use our huge knowledge of Islam in a positive way.
David Wood seems to have embarked on a brilliant series of video’s in response to ABC’s and other media’s outrageous whitewashing of Islam, amplifying Taqqiya as he calls it.
He makes it clear what Islam REALLY teaches, just as Jihad Watch does. This makes it possible for Westerners to realize how good their own laws, tenets, values are in comparison!
The Vegan Atheist has a series of stupid Muslim comments (on his website) and he discusses them, in the process giving his views, showing Better Alternatives To Islam’s views, that is, in respect to Freedom and Scientific Enquiry.
We now have at our disposal a huge knowledge of Islam, and we can formulate all sorts of better alternatives to all sorts of aspects to Islam, from the small to the big picture. We can put Islam to use!
Robert Spencer, David Wood and Vegan Atheist could not shine so much in a vacuum, without the contrast of Islam and Muslims.
Carmel says
Bravo to swiss push back. I don’t believe a second that the idea of nt shaking hand come from the 14 and 15 years old boys . They were used in that situation.
, Muslims , usually , know only one thing : the law of the most powerful. They subjugated thenselves or they sujugated others.
Having to pay a fine of 5000 $ is a good thing but if they are tell that transgressing swiss social laws- such as shaking hand in the morning with the teacher- will make them loose social privileges such as medicare, family allowances, swiss federal pension plan , schools attendance etc… they will obey .
The law should be such in Switzerland : you rerceived privileges of the community as long as you lived by and foor the community . You can take out of the cash and never give in.
Swiss, stand to your principles. If they don’t obey . Leave them alone anf finally make them loose their citizenship.
And F*** Rights of Man activists.
Angemon says
Indeed.
jewdog says
I don’t know what those teachers are complaining about. Now they don’t have to shake hands with people who may be using their hands instead of toilet paper. And isn’t there something about drinking camel piss in the Koran? What those guys need are some smart pills, the ones that taste like horse manure.
Purushottam Deshmukh says
Mr. Jewdog,
The Jews are highly intelligent folk. If you are a Jew and using highly abusive language even for human monsters; it exhibits bankruptcy of your brain. I expect you to use the sword of your Jewish intellect and intelligence with which you defeat and cut asunder the monster of Islamist Ideology. I bear great respect for the Jews.
BARBARA BROOKS says
If they don’t want to shake hands, let them kneel in respect for their teachers. We’ll see how well that suits them!
citycat says
I don’t agree with handshaking at all, keep your hands to yourself, i don’t want you touching me in any way at all. Plus germs may be passed.
But in this case i will make an exception as it is based on God grounds by a Muslim. Death to the idea that an idea of a God rules, particularly with Islam. It’s nothing to do with the handshake, it’s to do with the furtherance of the war machine Islam. Ok
citycat says
Not only that but also the fact that the handshake could be an opportunity for the Muslim to pass on something deadly, apart from curses.
citycat says
And then there is that eye contact thing where they got kids to stare into each others eyes for a while. Beware the evil eye of the Muslim, they will try to pass stuff over, apart the curses they think i can’t hear. Muslims are on the case 24/7, not wasting their time drinking like the infidel. Infidels have got to make an effort and a decision to deal with the onslaught of Islam.
Apart from the other evils on Earth.
davej says
Muslim males would prefer to and are more likely to rape and kill females teachers rather than shake their hands. And I bet it happens.
And the totalitarians are clearly them, not the hand shakers.
Marylou says
Why didn’t you do some reading about THEIR folkways before you imported them, you morons?
Lia says
Mony a mickle maks a muckle.
Chantell Snyder says
Good for them! 🙂 What do Muslim men think will happen if they shake hands with a woman? That their hands will fall off, or something?! They must!
SD says
If they are so extreme that they are unwilling to shake hands with a woman who is the teacher a authority figure then these people have no place in a free Democratic and modern country such as Switzerland. I am Swiss and I will tell you we are the country that banned the minarets. We are the country that will not give in to Islam. We might have a german-speaking region but this is not Mama Merkels Germany. Let me make one thing unmistakably clear to Muslims islam can never be practiced in a western country in the way that they would practice it in Saudi Arabia because if that was to be allowed then that would mean that everybody that is not a Muslim or not aspousing to live according to Muslim laws and practices, including women, gays etc would lose their freedom, human rights and dignity, and we will never allow that to happen. I can say with confidence that Switzerland is the only country in Europe that will certainly successfully resist any attempt to islamize our country and because of a very simple fact the people have real power to decide what goes on in the country thanks to direct democracy. If you are Muslim and you think that you want Sharia and that you must live According to Islamic practices then I’m sorry but maybe Switzerland is the wrong country for you because at every corner you’re going to find things that are conflicting with the Islamic way of doing things whether it’s the girls wearing mini skirts and hot pants whether it’s homosexuals whether its advertisement Billboards of half-naked women,people drinking alcohol at the bus station not every bus station but every now and then this happens or party events you’re going to be confronted with our ways that you might not like on a regular basis so maybe it would be much better for your personal Comfort to just go and live in an Islamic country.
Panmelia says
I’m thinking of relocating to Switzerland from the UK. It seems to be the only country with proper democracy, respect for itself and common sense.
Of course, this might have something to do with Switzerland not being in the undemocratic, lunatic EU: cause or effect, who can say?
I have a completely new perspective on Switzerland now, SD, and increased respect.
Mubarak says
In Sweden a Muslim man was granted 60 000 SEK as compensation in a similar situation. – http://www.svd.se/ville-inte-skaka-hand-far-ratt-i-domstol –
In Denmark a Muslim taxi driver was rewarded 10 000 DKK for not shaking hands
http://www.kristeligt-dagblad.dk/danmark/erstatning-til-muslim-der-ikke-vil-give-haand-moeder-kritik –
And a Muslim woman in a school for nutrition assistants was awarded 75 000 DKK for not tasting traditional Danish food.
http://www.b.dk/nationalt/muslim-skulle-smage-paa-svinekoed-faar-75.000-i-erstatning
And public indoor swimming pools now reserve special time for Muslim women, because they can’t swim, when men are present. At the same time naked-swimming in public swimming pools is on the rise in Denmark.
http://lokalavisen.dk/noegenbadning-i-svoemmehaller-breder-sig-/20120316/artikler/120319528/1051
In the West we are busy extinguishing all differences between the sexes while Muslims desperately try to uphold them. O brave new world that has such people in it!
Will the salami tactics of Muslim emigrants in combination with intimidations and terror turn the West upside down?
Demsci says
Me too it gives great satisfaction that in future these incredibly arrogant Muslims (men mostly) will get at least a big fine if they refuse the handshake with a female teacher. What justice, what satisfaction after initial revulsion, contempt, for this huge arrogance, or dimwhittedness, shown by Muslims.
In Islamic states, Muslim men can oppress and shun women, but to their chagrin, in democratic countries, they will encounter PUSH-BACK, from women, supported by democratic men, and majorities at that. What a setback for people who believe Allah should rule, not people.
If anything, the fines are too low, deportation should be in the debate; If Muslims are demonstrably, proven to be stubborn to uphold democratic law, tenets, values and tradition; then eventually the democratic citizens will be, hopefully in majority of 51 %, intolerant back to the intolerant, even to the point of deportation, if possible.
It’s not a question of respect, because Intolerants are free to move to intolerant societies and be intolerant there, and be treated intolerant there (in the case of women and political corrects),
it is a question of choice, preference, and between moral people, on both sides. And I for one, respect the other side, but just prefer, choose for and defend my/ our side.
Miao Zedong says
“Me too it gives great satisfaction that in future these incredibly arrogant Muslims (men mostly) will get at least a big fine if they refuse the handshake with a female teacher. ”
—
Social service will pay the fee. None of the muslim trouble makers in Switzerland have managed to make a living.
Demsci says
It is as if some or many Muslims seem to think that it is Islam only that has the good moral teachings that all infidels LACK. And maybe, just maybe, 14 + 15 year old indoctrinated boys can be excused for thinking this, or thus.
And perhaps, the bright side of such incidents is that Westerners, Democratic Citizens, as well, have grown quite ignorant about great moral principles of Democratic societies,
originating, among other influences, from enlightenment. Taking them for granted.
And so, the contrast with a backward culture, (reminiscent perhaps to our own forbears) can for democratic citizens, from 20 to 51 %, serve to again become fully aware of their/ our own good sides, morals, achievements. To cherish and defend, and yes, expand, and yes, to convert Muslims to. For the whole 21st century.
Judi says
Knowing muslims toilet habits, I would have thought the teachers would have welcomed not shaking their hands.
Tonny says
We have the same problems here in Denmark.
in connection with an examination, it is normal to shaking with the teacher after graduation.
The teacher refused the reason was his religion (Muslim)
It was out of respect for women??
Minister for women it was okay that he did not.
According to the Quran cant not shake the Kaafir by hand or greeting them because it honor them.
If kaafir greet a Muslim or want to shake hands
Muslim has to greet the kaafir. they should, regardless of gender.
The same may also be said about shaking hands: we should not initiate shaking hands with a kaafir, but if he holds his hand out, we shake his hand.
https://islamqa.info/en/search?key=greet+the+kaafir+after+graduation
https://islamqa.info/en/search?key=greet+the+kaafer+after+
https://islamqa.info/en/127500
Expat88 says
I had personal experience with the non-handshaking mandate. When I was working in the Middle East I innocently congratulated a Muslim co-worker over the birth of a child and he refused to shake hands because I was a woman. It was bogus, though, as in incidences after that I saw him finding excuses to touch other females (tapping on the shoulder, and such acts). I think he was trying to make the point in specifically refusing to shake hands with me due to anti-American sentiments.
It didn’t matter to me one way or the other, but I just found it to be obnoxious. I didn’t let it pass, though, and pointed out his hypocrisy.
Mirren10 says
What did he say ?
DP111 says
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3610761/Inside-village-Europe-migrants-BANNED-Switzerland-s-super-rich-Oberwil-Lieli-millionaires-won-t-accept-asylum-seekers-voted-pay-200-000-fine-instead.html?login
This is what Europeans create. What does Islam create – murder, mayhem.
Larry Shapiro says
What if the custom at Swiss schools was to partake in a morning BLT. How do you think Jewish students would react? Muslim men like orthodox Jews do not shake the hands of woman. Perhaps this is to keep sexual thoughts at bay. Whatever the reason, it’s part of their religion. This does not make them terrorist threats, or missionaries for Sharia.
Panmelia says
Don’t be ridiculous, Shapiro. Eating a sandwich with bacon in it (highly unlikely as part of a school routine) is NOT comparable to refusing to touch a woman’s hand BECAUSE she is a woman.
You should be ashamed to admit that orthodox Jews have the same idea. Proves that they’re BOTH misogynistic religions then, doesn’t it, nothing to be proud of or have a wish to condone.
As a Jewish person, have more common sense than to defend mudslimes who hate you and want to kill you BECAUSE you are a Jew.
firefox says
Islam is Islam.
Islam is supreme.
Muslim believers are superior to all.
Everyone else is kafir.
Everything else if haram.
It will never change.
It cannot reform.
It cannot ever be compaitible with civil cultures, because civil cultures are haram.
Islam is in an eternal war with the unbelievers and their nations and laws cuz Mohammed said so.
Islam is “believe it, or else!”
Democratic laws and freedoms must be claimed supreme in the west and Sharia Law banned.
Demanding it should be considered sedition and treason.
Religon separated from the state and no special priviledge for Islam in government or business.
No Islamic schools.
Radical mosques shut down, radical Imams deported.
Accept it or leave.
It is imperative that Islam remains contained, and best to itself outside of democratic nations.
Did we forget they are war with us??
Did we forget they keep terrorizing, and raping, and killing us daily.
If our brain dead liberal governments put the focus back on the people. and not building massive wealth for just a few, and quit spending insanely and taxing us to death, and provided incentives to raise larger families, we wouldn’t even be considering welcoming these barbarian masses.
Maybe this is just the cycle of life for freedom.
But I’ll be damned if I go down without a fight against this f#cking evil Muslim invasion of barbarty and terror.
Islam can take its living hell elsewhere.
It does not belong here.
Panmelia says
Exactly so, firefox. Couldn’t agree more.
Gary says
“totalitarian”
Well let’s see….
Since Islam calls me an “Infidel” because I don’t believe in allah that gives them the right to behead me?!
Is that not totalitarian?!!
Oh wait! I actually DO BELIEVE in allah.
Only he’s not God. He’s Satan: ) For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: {14} I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. (Isaiah 14:13-14)
The comment: “allah ackbar” meaning “God is greater” can come from only one source: Satan.
Clearly the God of the universe has made His declaration. A declaration of Love:
“In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.” (Hebrews 1:1-3)
David says
I say, throw the imbecile out! If they would rather live like Pagan SAVAGES in their native Camel-Puke-astan, LET THEM GO BACK!!!!!
Marty says
A calculated insult to civilised values is not a trivial matter.
Immigrants who fail to integrate, let alone assimilate, should be thrown out.
Mohammedans have religious beliefs culminating in the murder of apostates & Jews.
We do not tolerate Nazis in Europe (& at least they were vile versions of European culture)
why the hell should we encourage Third World savages, whose beliefs openly
start where the Nazis dared not (openly) go & who have nothing in common
with Westen values.
Lee says
So………….. it’s OK for them to grope, molest, rape or murder a woman…………………..but they mustn’t shake her hand????? What a bunch of inbred, 7th century throwbacks……………
Pathfinder0100 says
Europe has been digging it’s own grave (Or rather, it’s leaders).! It IS refreshing to see this Country ( Switzerland) standing up to the destroyers of Civilization!!!
Michael Harris says
I agree wholeheartedly with the Swiss. But my conservative brothers and sisters need to not be hypocritical. We must serve wedding cakes to gays and the Sisters of the Poor have to accept Obamacare accommodations however morally unpalatable. We are a society of laws. What is scary is the Islamic refusal to integrate.
Philip says
And the moral of the story here? Best not to have Muslim immigrants at all. Ever.
Face_The_Truth says
With so many commentators’ passionate posts above, my post here may be deemed redundant.
Even so, here is my two cents for all of you.
Of course, the Islamic State of Pakistan can strike Indian capital city within 5 minutes with Pakistanian “Islamic bombs” (i.e., Pakistanians call their nukes “Islamic bombs”) in order to annihilate all “Hindus”, which is quite similar to the Islamic Republic of Iran’s ability to wipe of the map the Jewish State of Israel in less than 10 minutes with Iranian nuclear bombs!
However, these are all grandiose rhetorics of self-importance and nothing else.
Jihad Watch website may be better off not including these sorts of meaningless news stories anyway.
Common sense tells us that there will not be a nuclear war between Pakistanians and Indians or between Russians and Americans or between South Koreans and North Koreans or between Iranians and Israelis as long as the first offender has a return address on the face of the map of earth.
So, I will be for totally nuclear-armed Middle East as well as the Far East.
Nuclear weapons serve as reasonable deterrents.
Aside from that, the Govt. of India is busy with increasing its economic strength, not with wasting money to fight countless wars with a economically bankrupt country called Pakistan.
Today’s Pakistanians, however, sincerely hope that 300 million Indian Muslims will one day remake the entire India into a “Hindustan” as the name “Hindustan” was originally given to the “Hindu Bharat Rashtra” by Muslim invaders during Middle Age.
Face_The_Truth says
My sincere apology to all readers for mistakenly and unknowingly sending my above post to a wrong thread.
Either please delete or just ignore my above post.
Simone Fields says
Ok, thanks. I did wonder what the connection was!
Eric W Deakin says
Excerpt from my unfinished book.
This Boy had been the cause of the deaths, of Frank’s father and all those others, who had died here. His soul gradually came together and became garrulous and effusive in demanding his reward for his act of martyrdom. He became more and more lucid and was distressed that he was still at the scene of his carnage. He had expected not to have to see the results of his action. He was insulted that the only others he could communicate with were a Jew and a Catholic. He was abusive in his declamation of both these religions. Nothing Frank and Solomon could say would quiet his quest, for martyrdom, in his cause.
A great light of blue and violet lit up the scene. A huge man of abundant clothing and accoutrements came out of this light. The boy knelt before him and said “You must be the prophet. I had expected you.” This apparition said in a booming voice “I may be a prophet but not the one, you expect. I came before him and are but of little significance. But I have been sent, that judgment might be fairly made here. You must realize that whatever applies to committing suicide equally applies to the crime of murder. It is written “Whoever take his life by any means whatsoever has unjustly taken a life which Allah has made sacred. For since he did not create himself, not even so much as a single cell of his body, the life of an individual does not belong to him; it is a trust given to him by Allah. He is not allowed to diminish it, let alone to harm or destroy it. Further; whosoever killed a person – unless it be for killing a person or for creating disorder in the land – it shall be as if he had killed all mankind.” The boy was silenced by all this. He asked “What of paradise and the 72 dark-eyed virgins I was promised” The great soul responded “You speak: of the Martyr Shahid. He was rewarded in paradise by marriage to 72 dark-eyed virgins. Shaytan! has whispered to you, in the form of a false prophet. It is he, who has made this promise to you. Were it not for the work, of Shaytan, in your young life, you would be cast, with him, into Jahannam for eternity. As it is, you will live your own hell, here on earth, until Yawm al Oiyamah, at which time you will be judged by Allah.” With that the boy’s only just reformed soul divided into many parts. “Go! Live in the minds and the bodies of those who you hated and wronged. Those who are children of David, and of the book, even as we are the children of Abraham. There you will live in fear of those like yourself, Go!” With this the parts of the boy’s soul, with a cry of surprised anguish, raced off, to their dreadful fate, in life.
Mirren10 says
Don’t give up the day job.
N J says
It bothers me that you don’t respect the original Scottish saying enough to spread it correctly. Even though language is dynamic and changing, there is to my mind a difference between its changing by accident and its being changed from its original structures and idioms on purpose by random whims and fancies. I think that ‘mickle’ means ‘little’ based on what people in the thread have said, so that your version loses coherence/ sense. If you say “many a little makes a lottle”, making up a word, or “many a little makes a muckle”, then that’s funny and still keeps the sense of the original statement. But to say many a little makes a little destroys the very meaning of the original statement and I don’t like that at all, at all.
N J says
To me, disrespect of cultural norms and values whether by Muslims of the Swiss or by you of Scottish sayings…has the same stinky aroma around it. I don’t care what your meaning or value is…I’m gonna do what I like anyway…cultural appropriation for my own purpose at your expense… I dislike most intensely.