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Islamic State to India: “Either accept Islam, pay jizya or prepare to be slaughtered”

May 22, 2016 12:21 pm By Robert Spencer

“It is strictly prohibited to worship anyone except Allah. These Kafirs worship cow, sun, and moon. There is strict prohibition to maintain ties with those who are against Allah. Either accept Islam, pay Jiziya (a medieval tax for non-believers of Islam) or prepared [sic] to be slaughtered. If the Indians claim themselves to be smart and intelligent, spending immense amounts of money in researching and trying to find out what we really want. Then I would like to let them know, that they have three options and they can choose one, they either accept Islam, pay jiziya and be prepared to be slaughtered.”

The jizya is not in reality “a medieval tax for non-believers of Islam.” It’s a Qur’anic tax for non-believers in Islam, specifically for the “People of the Book”(i.e., primarily Jews and Christians), although after a medieval fatwa, it was collected from Hindus as well.

“Fight those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, and do not practice the religion of truth, even if they are of the People of the Book — until they pay the jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.” — Qur’an 9:29

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“Shocking Indian Jihadi video states ‘avenge Babri Masjid,’” by Minnie Mahendru, LivePunjab.com, May 22, 2016 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

A shocking and chilling video with a warning to the people regarding the demolition of Babri Masjid, has been released by the ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) that includes Indian Jihadis and Fahad Tanvir Sheikh, an engineering student from Thane, has been released. In a first video of its kinds, the Indian Jihadists talk about their plans of avenging of the Babri Masjid destruction and alleged Muslim killings across India.

Planned action by the Indian Jihadis and their resentment which involves India and South Asia is the highlight of this first video that has been released recently. Fahad Tanvir Sheikh’s statement as mentioned by a newspaper states “We will return, but with a sword in hand, to slice your throats, to avenge the Babri Masjid, and the killings of Muslims in Kashmir, in Gujarat, and in Muzaffarnagar. Muslims are not safe in India. New restrictions are being imposed and our freedom is being taken away.”Sheikh was the only one who has been identified in the video, states the daily.

Fahad Tanvir Sheikh along with three other youths from Mumbai’s Kalyan area namely Aarif Majid, Amaan Tandel and Saheem Tanki had run off to Iraq to join the ISIS in May 2014. Sheikh has also claimed post the Batla House encounter; things had become tough for them.

He stated that they were chased by Police, The ATS, and investigative agencies, but they had somehow managed to sneak away and reached Khorasan to join the babri. Aarif Majid is active with the NIA and Shahim Tanki died in a Raqqa last year, in a bomb attack. The video shows the Indian Jihadis urging Muslims belonging to India, Afghanistan and Pakistan being urged to join the movement and spread the Islamic caliphate.

In the video, a Jihadi is supposed to have stated that the people in India are killing Muslims on some pretext or the other, like in the “name of the cow” and he states that their women are not safe and they are being forced to revert to Hinduism. They hold the hindus who worship cows responsible for committing various atrocities, against the Muslims.

The alleged recoded Jihadi statement is in English and he warned Indians saying, “It is strictly prohibited to worship anyone except Allah. These Kafirs worship cow, sun, and moon. There is strict prohibition to maintain ties with those who are against Allah. Either accept Islam, pay Jiziya (a medieval tax for non-believers of Islam) or prepared [sic] to be slaughtered. If the Indians claim themselves to be smart and intelligent, spending immense amounts of money in researching and trying to find out what we really want. Then I would like to let them know, that they have three options and they can choose one, they either accept Islam, pay jiziya and be prepared to be slaughtered.”

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  1. boakai ngombu says

    May 22, 2016 at 12:51 pm

    ISIS, why does the allah god of islam (unknowable; the best of all decerives) mislead you from all that Yahweh would give you?

    why are you so confused about your state of mind, as it differs from the rest of humankind? your thinking is warped and away from true righteous ways; your actions show it.

    you will perish, be condemned to everlasting fire and absence of all the goodness around you, because you have been blinded by the malevolence of your god … which is not the greatest.

    • Panmelia says

      May 22, 2016 at 1:32 pm

      Put more simply, ngombu, “the malevolence of your god….which is not”. It doesn’t exist except in the diseased brains of the indoctrinated victims of the cult who read the insane ideas of moMAD jotted down in his murder manual.

      Yahweh is another imaginary god that could be quite as malevolent as allah at times – “do this or that or else” etc, but wasn’t up to the same level of evil as allaaargh.

      Most of these monotheistic gods are reflections of the nasty side of humankind. The great advantage of polytheistic hinduism (of which I am not a follower) is that they have nice kind gods as well as horrible ones, so at least you can pick and choose.

      • john spielman says

        May 22, 2016 at 4:57 pm

        rubbish, you know NOTHING of God who created you and me and the entire universe by His command.
        where did energy and matter and life itself come from IF NOT CREATED by God Himself?

        • Guest says

          May 22, 2016 at 6:15 pm

          You argue from ignorance for belief in your god.

          Now suppose that there were nothing. True, I’m assuming that the notion of nothingness can be made coherent, but if the assumption is wrong, there’s no longer any need for a god to explain existence. Nevertheless, let’s suppose that the idea of nothingness is coherent.

          So if there were nothing, then there would be no law to prohibit instantiation of something e.g. a quark or a hydrogen atom or some nonphysical entity to be the basis of mind and consciousness. Nor could there be such a law, the existence of which would contradict the assumption of nothingness. So this solves the problem of energy and matter; they can appear ex nihilio, no god required.

          I suspect, however, that there is a limitation upon what could suddenly appear. Since God is supposed to exist necessarily and eternally, we shouldn’t expect him to arise ex nihilio, as might a quark or H atom or an impersonal, nonphysical entity which is the basis of mind.

          There’s another aspect, too, of your ontology which you should reconsider. You demand a creator for comparatively trivial things like energy and matter but not for your god. Why the double standard? Why do trivial entities, but not God, need a willful creator? Both types would have some orderliness, and I presume you are using the existence of orderliness as a reason to demand a designer. So, do only trivial entities which evince orderliness need a designer and a creator?

        • Guest says

          May 22, 2016 at 6:23 pm

          Small change: ex nihilo, not ex nihilio

          Still, as I implied earlier, the old claim that “ex nihilo nihil fit” is nonsense which makes use of a stolen concept.

        • Wanker says

          May 23, 2016 at 3:18 am

          ……and where did God come from?

        • CogitoErgoSum says

          May 23, 2016 at 12:59 pm

          So something can come from nothing? This means that our universe just popped into existence from nothing. It means everything came from nothing. Nothing suddenly exploded into something without any cause for the explosion. That goes against all the rules which we currently know about how things work in the universe in which we live.

          Personally, I find believing in “nothing” to be even more difficult than believing in God. I find it impossible to imagine “nothing.” I believe there always had to be “something” ……. always….. and it did not just pop into existence from nothing. Now, I call that eternal “something” God. God always was, is, and ever shall be. I agree that such a thing is hard to believe but how is the existence of an eternal “something” any more fantastic than an ephemeral “nothing” which bounces between non-existence and existence without cause?

          It all comes down to what you choose to believe, doesn’t it? Either you have faith in something or you have faith in nothing. It’s up to you.

        • Champ says

          May 23, 2016 at 9:27 pm

          Wanker wrote:

          ……and where did God come from?

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          Question: “Who created God? Who made God? Where did God come from?”

          Answer: http://www.gotquestions.org/who-created-God.html

        • gourgovinda sevak senan says

          May 24, 2016 at 12:20 am

          HURRAH! John Spielman! Well said! You are GOD’s man, surely.
          Your stupid offender Mr Guest is plain NUTS — here, NUTS means NOTHING.
          That means he is NOTHING. After all, NUTS like him, without BOLTS to screw them, believe EVERYTHING came from NOTHING.
          By this silly notion, he is also unknowingly admitting that he [being one of the THINGS included in EVERYTHING that came from NOTHING] himself is NOTHING…. ZERO !
          PERIOD!
          Since when did ZERO produce ANYTHING but NOTHING?
          So what can the EMPTY SPACE in Mr Guest’s skull produce, except ZERO?

        • Super Mario says

          May 24, 2016 at 12:45 pm

          Let’s look at an analogy:

          Smith says to Jones, “Could you explain to me how magic works?” So Jones starts talking about misdirection, sleight of hand, escapology and so forth. But Smith says “No, I want to know about real magic.” And Jones replies, “I can’t help you, because ‘real magic’ isn’t real, and the magic that is real isn’t ‘real magic.'”

          Now, Smith says to Jones, “Could you explain to me how nothingness works?” So Jones starts talking about ground states, virtual particles, vacuum energy and so forth. But Smith says “No, I want to know about real nothing.” And Jones replies, “I can’t help you, because ‘real nothing’ isn’t real, and the nothing that is real isn’t ‘real nothing.'” “Real nothing” isn’t an element of reality, any more than “real magic,” true Euclidean space, or spherical cows.

          Real metaphysical nothing is by definition not a physical thing.
          So now let’s turn this around and look at where the caller was going with this argument. Is god something or nothing? If god is said to exist, then god must be something. How could then god come from metaphysical nothing?

          And which is more likely, that an intelligent being capable of creating universes always existed or come from nothing or that dumb matter (i.e. universe itself) always existed or from nothing?
          Occam’s razor cuts god as superfluous more complex assumption that itself requires more explanation and that does not explain anything new.

          And let’s not forget that the only reason we are talking about gods and goddesses and spirits etc. is because our ancestors, who got everything about the natural world wrong, came up with the idea of god to explain the world in the first place.

          Lack of evidence for theistic god, coupled with the evidence that people made the idea up is enough to discredit it.

      • boakai ngombu says

        May 23, 2016 at 3:41 pm

        for me it is a sin of presumption to declare that Yahweh is a figment of the imagination. constant presumption of this kind can lead to blasphemy and denial of the work of Almighty God.

        the Holy Word – recorded by the inspired writers – which we call the Bible, provides the knowledge necessary to gain faith and that is a gift from the Godhead. i dare not misuse that gift, for i would loose, not gain, righteousness. I would then be out of relationship with Yahweh.

        by faith i know that Yahweh is full of compassion and love. He forgives … something the allah god can not accomplish. He blesses with a clean conscience … something the allah god can not accomplish

        He does it. He deserves praise and not curses.

        The Word provides examples of the vengeance Triune God will bring. He will bring it, not those who follow The Word (like the slaves of allah do).. He will bring it in His timing and He gives plenty of notice … and information as to how to avoid it, to be delivered from it, in the Word. He is merciful because there is yet time.

        • boakai ngombu says

          May 23, 2016 at 4:45 pm

          this was meant as a response to panmelia, not John Spielman (with whose post i concur).

      • John P Taylor says

        May 24, 2016 at 5:01 am

        CogitoErgoSum,
        Exactly, Everything arose from nothing, and indeed it is not possible for the human mind to comprehend this. As beautifully narrated in the serial “The story of God by Morgan Freeman,” citing Vedic texts, that, humans cannot understand this, what we can do is to accept this.
        It is much more logical to believe that these things are beyond the comprehension of humans, as are so many other things in the Universe, than to take a simplistic theory that a creator created everything … because, then the question is who created the creator.| The theory of creator has several other drawbacks, including requiring a blind belief in a certain theory of creation without any evidence or logic, and 2) the presence of so many conflicting claims about the creator or his representatives.
        In fact, it is said that the Universe and Time itself has no beginning and no end. Like a circle. Again, something, we humans cannot understand, so we should just accept.

      • Mickal says

        Jun 2, 2016 at 6:57 am

        Panmelia added one’own knowledge into statement of old agitation argument. It is very revealing that one with common sense without any spiritual insight that this morons crock of manure insight is nothing more than idiot’s own disbelief in God and glorifying idiots atheism adherence.

    • Brindley says

      May 22, 2016 at 8:55 pm

      Your argument that God created everyhthing has no evidence. Some rotten fruits, or example mango when opened a small worm appears, who creatged that worm? God?

    • Christianblood says

      May 22, 2016 at 11:09 pm

      boakai ngombu

      islam is an evil cult of hate and death and the god of islam is nothing but an anti-Christ demonic spirit of hate, darkness and death. This evil cult of hate and death (islam)
      should be defeated by all humanity before it leads to the death of hundreds of millions
      of more human beings all around the globe.

      • boakai ngombu says

        May 23, 2016 at 3:21 pm

        yet, the mosque is porous.

        Yahweh would save some from such captivity as is brought on by the SHARIA; He would favor these with His peace.

        that is not to say that He is pleased with all the mosque does.

        even the slaves of the allah god of islam are to be included within “the world” which Jesus saved through faith in Him.

  2. Angemon says

    May 22, 2016 at 1:05 pm

    Meet the new caliphate, same as the old caliphate.

    • DFD says

      May 22, 2016 at 1:37 pm

      Who?

      • Angemon says

        May 22, 2016 at 5:10 pm

        ISIS, doing what muslims have been doing going as far back as the Umayyad caliphate.

        • DFD says

          May 22, 2016 at 5:55 pm

          I was referring to ‘The Who’: Meet the new boss, same as the old boss… 🙂

        • Angemon says

          May 22, 2016 at 5:57 pm

          My bad then 🙂

          Hoist by my own petard… 😀

    • Kathy Brown, Esq. says

      May 22, 2016 at 5:22 pm

      Thanks for the ‘Who’ tribute Ange! Tho’ from what we hear from them, they’re full of PC…

  3. Panmelia says

    May 22, 2016 at 1:22 pm

    Religious belief may be a mental illness caused by intimidating indoctrination while young, a destructive meme implanted in the most vulnerable minds.

    Religious conflict has probably caused the deaths of more people than all the other kinds of wars put together.

    One ‘religion’, more accurately described as a political ideology disguised as religion, is more dangerous to world peace than any other: islam.

    Only the Israeli leaders seem to grasp this fully. The rest of the Western leaders faff about like spare fairies at a wedding, humming and hawing about not wanting to be ‘divisive’ by criticising muslims.

    The best possible policy is to BE DIVISIVE and send all muslim devotees back to their country of origin, or any other country where islam is practised. The only ones allowed to stay are those willing to publicly renounce islam, swear loyalty to the country they feel safer in, and agree to be subject to close scrutiny for a period of years.

    When the world population is divided into civilised countries and islamic ones, we will all know where we stand and who our potential enemies are. Islamic countries which allow fanatics to scream about the need for jihad to achieve a global caliphate will be subjected to international ostracism, trade sanctions and economic hardship. That will concentrate their minds on eliminating the most unstable and aggressive of their co-religionists.

    While sucker politicians in the West continually deny that islam and muslms are a problem, they pose a threat to all of us and must be deprived of power.

    • john spielman says

      May 22, 2016 at 5:00 pm

      of course you didn’t mention the TENS OF MILLIONS MURDERED by atheistic regimes like Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot (total 100 million

      • Panmelia says

        May 23, 2016 at 10:33 am

        Murder is not the same as death in wars. I was referring specifically to wars of conflict NOT the murder of their own people by totalitarian dictators who practised other kinds of ‘ism’ than islamism.

        The difference between fascism, communism, maoism etc and islamism is that the latter purports to be a religion with a supernatural being dictating actions with eternal consequences, such as the whore heaven idiot muslims sacrifice themselves and others to reach quicker, or the unspeakable hell if you don’t do what allah demands.

        The other ‘isms’ usually have a leader who sets himself up as a god and brainwashes children to believe he is one. The commies used to preach ‘perpetual revolution’, but they all came a cropper, as did you-know-who with his ‘eternal reich’.

        I’m afraid the islamists with their ‘perpetual jihad’ are a far bigger menace because allaaaarrrggghhh can never fail, being a product of moMAD’s diseased imagination and the sheer inability of most muslims to think for themselves.

        • Trico says

          May 23, 2016 at 1:02 pm

          ?because ‘allaaaarrrggghhh can never fail, being a product of moMAD’s diseased imagination”

          allaaaarrrggghhh was not dreamed up by Nomads but by what I call the Evilists. You may know them as The Cabal. The Elite, illuminati, Secret Government, Black Nobility (not skin color), World Revolutionary Council, The Jesuits. Free Masonry. I chose “Evilists” for brevity & accuracy.
          The Evilists created Islam with the intermediate goal of creating Terror, Conflici, Perpetual War. The End Game is to use Islam to destroy Western Civilization, exterminate Christianlty, Judaism, Atheists, Caucasians, The Black Man, Red Skin, Asian all in preparation for the New World Order.
          We can see that Western Civilization is under attack, Christianity is being suppressed and marginalized (see Un-Pope Francis) while Islam is being promoted and protected.
          I’ll leave it at that. If my “rants” get too much please just delete them and/or tell me and I will stop. I;m on a Mission so cannot contain myself.
          –
          “and the sheer inability of most muslims to think for themselves.”
          If you think about it you could substitute the word Americans and that statement would no less be true…except there is hope for us as more & more Americans are getting unplugged from the Evilists’ Matrix.

        • gravenimage says

          May 23, 2016 at 3:50 pm

          Trico, Islam much predates the Illuminati, the Masons, and the Jesuits.

          I’m not sure why people can’t believe that Islam is an issue all by itself, and not some Western invention.

        • Trico says

          May 23, 2016 at 9:05 pm

          “Islam much predates the Illuminati, the Masons, and the Jesuits.”

          yes, I know Islam isn’t a Western invention. I tried to avoid saying Islam is a creation of an Ancient Evil we know as S A T A N. I didn’t
          want to hurt anyone’s feelings. Those groups I mentioned are followers, worshipers, enablers bringing forth the New World Order
          which has as it’s end game the obliteration of everything in the Old World Order that could be attributed as God made.
          Satan is planning to remodel and refurbish.
          Hence the tools to be used to create a whole New World: 3D Printing soon to be 4D Printing; Virtual Reality; RFID Chip implants; Authentication Pills and Tattoos; Advanced Robotics; Sentient Humanoids; Genetic Modification of Plants, Fruits & Vegetables, Animals, Sea life; Chimeras; Living Internet; Asexual Reproduction (no fun); DNA Tampering ….

        • gravenimage says

          May 23, 2016 at 9:07 pm

          Thanks for your reply, Trico.

    • Trico says

      May 22, 2016 at 5:03 pm

      “The only ones allowed to stay are those willing to publicly renounce islam, swear loyalty to the country they feel safer in, and agree to be subject to close scrutiny for a period of years.”

      The problem with that is Muslims are allowed to lie to the non believers. The Muslim can take an oath if he has to as long as he doesn’t believe the oath in his heart. see: Barack Obama.
      As far as waiting a time period, Jihadists can be very patient. The Muslim Brotherhood has been infiltrating America and setting up their Jihad operations since the 1920s.
      Now the Brotherhood has infiltrated the education system and is stealthily converting the school kids to Islam. If they keep that up unimpeded, they won’t have to stage a coup. Islam will be welcomed with open arms and hearts.
      Question for Parents here: I have posted this warning of Islamic indoctrination of the school kids which is happening everywhere in the Western World, not just the USA, at least a hundred times, here, many times on on Twitter, all over You Tube and on other forums. How come this warning hasn’t gone viral and a National Parent outrage ensued? How come articles aren’t being written about this Jihad on the children and shared all over the place. Even the Alternative Media isn’t reporting on it.
      Do the Parents just not care? Somebody had to read some of those warnings I made. I just don’t get it. I’m not a Parent but I seem to care more than those who are. Why???

      • navnlos says

        May 22, 2016 at 5:40 pm

        I’m not a parent, though I do have a niece and nephew who are school aged, but I’ll tell you what I think. I’ve seen a some of your posts on here and they don’t contain any sources for your allegations. I am intrigued by what you are saying, but you offer nothing of substance. How is this happening and where? What can be done about it? Maybe if you provide some evidence and constructive steps that can be taken people will take more notice.

      • gravenimage says

        May 22, 2016 at 6:30 pm

        Trico, I assume you are referring to stories like this one:

        “Education Dept encourages Islam in classroom to stop bullying of Muslims”

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/04/education-dept-encourages-islam-in-classroom-to-stop-bullying-of-muslims

        “Islamic indoctrination taking place in Georgia public schools”

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/10/islamic-indoctrination-taking-place-in-georgia-public-schools

        There are many similar stories, where children are being fed a whitewashed version of Islamic history, er are even being encouraged to wear Hijab or recite the Shehada.

        Why aren’t parents reacting? Well, sometimes* they are*–there have been many stories covered here at Jihad Watch about pushback by parents and by the communities.

        But sometimes they aren’t, but I don’t think it is because parents don’t care–in many cases they are too busy to pay enough attention to *what* their kids are learning in Schools.

        Even more common, I think, is that they don’t understand the significance of these lessons–they see it as just more “political correctness”, and don’t see it as particularly harmful. Some parents, in fact, share the same political correctness themselves, and want to see Islam as just one more faith in the wonderful ‘mosaic’ of religions.

        Don’t get frustrated–just continue to educate. It is, really, all that any of us can do. And sometimes a parent–or any other Infidel–has to hear it over and over again before it may reach them.

        • Trico says

          May 22, 2016 at 8:40 pm

          It’s great to see those articles on Islam in the classroom. I still don’t understand why there isn’t a National Outrage. The few Parents that complain are silenced by threat or intimidation which is why Parents have to unite as a force and demand the end to this Islamic indoctrination.A Military Vet was denied access to his daughter’s graduation after complaining about the Islam propaganda. Parents who have complained about Common Core which is really Communism Core have actually been arrested. Fie decades the Politicians have been sliding America into a Fascist State. 9/11 accelerated the slide. The Patriot Act which is basically the Nazi Constitution was voted into law hours after events of 9/11.
          That multi-thousand page document had been prepared in advance. Obama through his Executive Orders has set the stage for a total
          takeover. All that is needed is an Event that will “justify” the suspension of the Constitution. America will be disarmed and thrown into Tyranny.
          –
          “Education Dept encourages Islam in classroom” Those criminals are doing a lot more than “encouraging” Islam in the classroom. That’s a smokescreen for the Parents. Using Nazi style indoctrination tactics the kids are being groomed into Islam. Weeks are spent on Islam. The virtues of Islam are taught as is Allah is the one true god. Only an hour is spent on the other Religions. Kids are forbidden to wear a Cross or to bring or read a Bible. Kids are told they cannot pray even if by themselves on break. Some religious songs have the lyric “Jesus Christ” removed and inserted is “Barack Hussein Obama” in it’s place. The kids are given assignments to write about Islam. The kids are told they will receive higher grades in their subjects if they convert to Islam. Some of the kids who have “converted” are told to go home and tell their Parents of the conversion. And yes, the Parents are clueless as to the implications of that.
          Deception: 2 sets of school books are used. The set used in school has the Islamic propaganda cannot be taken home. The set of books the kids can take home does not have the Islamic propaganda. This Agenda goes far beyond introducing Islam into the school system for Cultural Enrichment. It’s a Cultural Takeover. I read something the Muslim Brotherhood had said. They have infiltrated and penetrated all aspects of society in the very highest levels inclusing ALL the Alphabet Spy & Security Agencies: FBI, CIA, NSA, DHS, NIA, All the Military branches and who knows? They are getting set up to take over America such that when it becomes obvious what they are doing, it will be too late to do anything.
          That’s why Parents cannot afford to be clueless or ignorant of Islam and must be taught. Mainstream Media will not educate the Parents as the Media is aiding and abetting the downfall of the United States knowingly or not.
          Type into a Search Engine: School kids are being converted to Islam.
          It doesn’t matter if you are in USA, Canada or the UK. I suspect it’s happening everywhere the Muslim Brotherhood has operations and there is a Leftist government which is pretty much everywhere except perhaps some Eastern European countries.
          Also type into the Search Engine:
          School kids sing songs to Barack Obama.

    • Demsci says

      May 22, 2016 at 9:46 pm

      Panmelia, you can be against something, or for something, get free from or get free to, run away from, or run away to. Focus on what you don’t want or on what you do want. The fields of medicine and psychology were for a long time almost exclusively focused on getting rid of diseases, mental illnesses, not really on promoting health, flourishing humans, human strengths, happiness.

      Now an effort is underway to focus on what it is that we do want, positive psychology is around since 1998. And it focuses on the positive opposite of diseases. But it is so much harder to formulate what one is for than it is to formulate what one is against.

      The Muslims have it easy; they do have something they are FOR. Which is feared and resisted by a big part of the rest of humanity. The Muslims seem to be now 23 % of the worldpopulation, poised to grow to 27 % in a few years, but everywhere fortunately women are getting fewer babies, and populations get “greyer”, older on average, even in Islamic countries.

      Now among the rest of humanity the vast majority only knows/ focuses on what they are against and this will probably remain so; perhaps as much as 60 % could remain forever clueless, ignorant about what it is they are FOR, with heart and soul, like the Muslims are FOR Islam. Imagine; they call other Infidels (those who DON’t belief), they call those who leave Islam APOSTATES (those who LOSE their religion).

      My question and quest it is: What is it that humans that detest, despise, fear Islam DO want, want freedom to practice, want to run or develop towards to,

      So far I have come up with the full Democratic System, the ideals of the Enlightenment and the pursuit of Happiness. It seems that Freedom and Democracy are much more conducive to happiness than Islam is. Democracy only needs that religious or spiritual component that Islam seems to have to be a really good alternative to Islam.

      It is thus my hope that as many as maybe 20 % of earth’s population will be able to find a comprehensive belief and goal that is BETTER ALTNERNATIVE TO ISLAM (BATI), holding the opposite tenets of Islam, but in a FOR-way, not in an AGAINST-way. Muslims can then be called NON-believers, non-BATI’s. Muslims can promote from a very mediocre religion to a BETTER BELIEFSYSTEM and Lifestyls.

      It is my hope that in this way BATI tells Muslims not to give up their religion but to replace it with something better that is concrete, well formulated.

      And that it becomes the turn of infidels to be FOR something and the Muslims, and perhaps a part of the 60 % undecided humans, to be AGAINST this BATI and fear and resist it.

      And where now Muslima’s distinquish themselves with headscarves, as if they alone are for something while the rest is against I even hope that BATI’s in time have their own distinctive part of clothing to show what they are FOR that Muslims are Against.

      • KnowThyEnemy says

        May 24, 2016 at 2:20 pm

        In India, Hinduism is the “Better Alternative to Islam”! The problem is that Hindus make no effort to present it to Muslims. Such negligence is going to cost them big time.

        • Demsci says

          May 26, 2016 at 9:28 am

          Know Thy Enemy, I have the greatest respect for Hinduism, and see it also as “better alternative to Islam”, BATI, Hindus are doing fine, they even show themselves as being Hindu by the red spot on the forehead sometimes.

          Who knows; Sometimes Muslims do revert to Hinduism, don’t they?

          Hindus should go on as now, and be member of the BATI-coalition; just like the Christians in Western countries.

          But Islam is so strong, that more ideology and unity is needed for BATI. The overarching and augmenting ideal (we need not replace any other ideology than Islam, which is so totalitarian theocratic) is the common desire for democracy as high as possible, with the spiritual component: The pursuit of Happiness.

          My group a, the people I love, respect and feel connected most include atheists, Hindoes, Buddhists, Christians and others, who embrace democracy en pursuit of Happiness.

        • KnowThyEnemy says

          May 26, 2016 at 1:41 pm

          @Demsci,

          I am afraid Hindus are not doing fine. Putting a red dot on the forehead is simply outside appearance, it does not mean that the Hindu understands his/her religion much.

          Some 15 years ago, Zakir Naik gave a speech where he made fun of Hindu deity Ganesha and challenged Hindus to explain how Ganesha was God. Guess what? It has been 15 years and Hindus have not posted an explanatory response to his challenge. (A Hindu guru Sri Sri Ravi Shankar did, but that explanation is so complex that there is no way it will convince anyone.)

          The reason why Hindus have not posted a response is not because the response (explanation) does not exist, but because Hindus simply do not know much nor do they bother to learn. So no they are not doing fine. They will lose everything unless they change.

  4. Guest says

    May 22, 2016 at 1:24 pm

    “He stats that women are not safe and are being forced to revert to Hinduism,” since when did ISIS give a damn about the safety and well being of Women?!

    • gravenimage says

      May 22, 2016 at 6:34 pm

      Guest, as I wrote below, I think these are Hindu women who were forcibly converted to Islam. Muslims don’t care about these women; they just now consider them “their” women–in other words, women who are now for breeding more Muslims.

  5. Jay Boo says

    May 22, 2016 at 1:27 pm

    Hey muslims!
    Cow worship is far more civilized than sibling marriage and goat sex.

    • DFD says

      May 22, 2016 at 1:40 pm

      May be they are jealous. I think a cow could or would be more ‘problematic’ than a goat. Just a thought… 🙂

  6. mortimer says

    May 22, 2016 at 1:41 pm

    80 million Hindus were killed by Muslims in the greatest religious genocide in history. Indians understand jihad better perhaps than citizens of any country.

    I believe Hindus should put together a legal fund and drag the Koran into court and have it condemned as genocidal hate literature under India’s hate laws.

    • bridgette says

      May 22, 2016 at 6:28 pm

      Condemning won’t stop the slaughter although it’s a good idea. There is only one language moslems speak and that’s violence. I’m sure that Israel would help India with their moslem problem.

  7. balam says

    May 22, 2016 at 2:12 pm

    Time has come for INDIA to stand up to Muslims living in their country and deport them to Pakistan-the headquarters of TERRORISM and sponsored and financed by SAUDI ARABIA. The WEST must stop all AID to UNGRATEFUL COUNTRY CALLED PAKISTAN where the Christians are persecuted and killed day and night under Islamic BLASPHEMY LAWS.

    • Bob says

      May 23, 2016 at 9:58 am

      ‘Foreign aid’ given to Pakistan is probably seen as Britain’s jizya to muslim Pakistan!

  8. Westman says

    May 22, 2016 at 2:29 pm

    Religious violence has a long history in India, with most being suffered at the hands of Muslims until the 20th Century when the Hindis began vehement responses.

    This threat to India by ISIS is pure bragadicio; an India now capable of annihilating both ISIS and Pakistan.

    Here is a history of mostly Muslim on Hindu violence that cost the lives of millions of Hindis:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_violence_in_India#

    • mortimer says

      May 22, 2016 at 2:41 pm

      It appears ISIS wants to start a religious war in India, using the Muslim minority to do it. India will simply start hiring more police.

    • gravenimage says

      May 22, 2016 at 6:39 pm

      Yes–the idea that the Islamic State is in a position to start imposing Jizya on Indian Hindus is braggadocio on the part of ISIS.

      But it also probably signals that they are going to start targeting India with Jihad terror as they have already been targeting Europe, and that is *not* braggadocio. I imagine we will start to see more Jihad terror there.

      • Charli Main says

        May 23, 2016 at 3:13 am

        Muslims have been attacking Hindus in India, on an almost daily basis, for decades. Only the major attacks, like that on Bombay, make it into the Western media and that only because, even the Western media can´t cover up or ignore Mumbai level attacks.

        • gravenimage says

          May 23, 2016 at 3:57 pm

          So true, Charli. I meant that ISIS specifically sounds as thought they are going to pile on.

        • Charli Main says

          May 23, 2016 at 4:37 pm

          No criticism intended GI. Just ” chatting ” on the blog.
          kind regards.

  9. Defiance says

    May 22, 2016 at 2:39 pm

    We have a proverb that almost goes like this “mountain does not move when a dog barks.” Whether ISIS’s courage comes from the number of guns or the number of males who can fight, then we have more guns than ISIS can imagine and if its numerical strength of men, on both counts the world will laugh at them for being so idiotic. Isis has not seen the Indian army convoy moving,its unceasing, Ask the Pakis and they will tell how professional and ruthless when it comes to fighting and dealing an enemy.

    • rabrooks says

      May 23, 2016 at 7:06 pm

      India has a long history with mudslimes. They know what to do with them. I’m just concerned with how much “whining” the pislamic states will make when India lowers the boom…..
      They’ve been playing in kashmir, but looks like it’s all over now…………

    • John P Taylor says

      May 24, 2016 at 5:08 am

      Do not take the ISIS so lightly. Islam has committed genocide on the Indian subcontinent in the past and has converted nearly half of its land into near exclusive Islamic lands.
      There are millions of muslims in India and a powerful left that will make it nearly impossible to fight Islamic extremism in any meaningfuul way , in fact, it encourages it. The enormous muslim population of India is a perfect breeding ground for ISIS.

      • KnowThyEnemy says

        May 24, 2016 at 3:01 pm

        I concur. Hindus need to stop underestimating the Islamo-leftist alliance and get serious about working to push back against them. The question is- What should the Hindus do?

        So far the only thing that I see Hindu groups do is to physically attack Muslims over beef-eating. Such violent tactics not only go against the spirit of Hinduism, they also are never going to work against Islam. The Muslims and the Left will simply use this violence to do propaganda against Hindus and weaken them. They are already doing this.

        Other Hindus blame the politicians for their vote-bank politics. Guess what? Hindus can blame the politicians all they want, that is not going to make them stop their vote-bank politics. In fact, Hindus have been whining about vote-bank politics for decades and politicians have never changed their game. So what good is the whining?

        The proper response to Islam in India is for Hindus to proselytize to Muslims and bring them to Hinduism. In order to proselytize however, one has to know plenty about their religion. Hindus unfortunately know very little. They simply do not know enough to be able to proselytize. And THAT explains whey they resort to violence and why they whine about vote-bank politics. An ignorant people have no other options.

        There are states in India where Hindus pushed for laws against converting hoping that this will stop conversions out of Hinduism. I call this axing your own foot. Because of such laws, it is harder for others to enter Hinduism. Hindus only make things difficult for themselves by passing such laws. But then what else can one expect from the lazy and the ignorant!

        But if Hindus really care, they need to change. They need to start studying their religion, and figure out how to present it to people. All this is going to take lots of time, effort, and the whole thing will move slow. But then slow and steady wins the race! All that is needed is effort and dedication.

        It is not “nearly impossible to fight Islamic extremism in any meaningfuul way,” as you say. Quite the opposite is true. It is very possible! What is needed is the will on the part of everyday educated Hindus to make effort. If they cannot do that, they are toast. Guaranteed!

        If otoh they dedicate themselves to studying Hinduism and spreading it, they will thrive. This too is guaranteed. It is totally up to them which choice they want to make.

  10. mortimer says

    May 22, 2016 at 2:46 pm

    Meanwhile, in Bangladesh, the government does little and expresses sympathy with jihad killers of atheists, blasphemers, Christians, Hindus and apostates.

    Large numbers of Muslims are obvious sympathizers of ISIS. There could be as many as 200 or 300 Mn Muslims who approve of ISIS…many of them in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.

    • Panmelia says

      May 22, 2016 at 2:57 pm

      mortimer re Bangladesh

      Yeah, I used to feel sorry for the natural disasters that happen in Bangladesh and give money to aid charities. Same with other Middle East and Far East countries.

      Not any more. there will be no more money from me to go to islamic countries where atrocities are carried out in the name of their appalling religion.

      • mortimer says

        May 22, 2016 at 3:03 pm

        It takes almost 2 decades for a Muslim to leave Islam according to what I have read. They are severely brainwashed zombies of this Death Cult. Muslims filter out all the bad news about Islam. It’s all bad news.

        • Jay Boo says

          May 22, 2016 at 3:51 pm

          Bull Crap
          If it takes 2 decades then let there be at least a 20 year ban on Muslim immigration.

          It is difficult to give up unaccountability by those who routinely make up excuses for followers of a cult based on a vile excuse posing as holy books duplicitous koran and sleazy hadith.

          Muslims are pigs, mortimer.

        • gravenimage says

          May 22, 2016 at 6:51 pm

          Mortimer wrote:

          It takes almost 2 decades for a Muslim to leave Islam according to what I have read.
          …………………..

          Not sure where you got that from, Mortimer. It’s not as though we are seeing a mass exodus of 30+ year old Muslims leaving the faith. I wish we were.

          One thing that *is* heartening, though, is that most converts to Islam leave the faith, often within just five years.

          https://imamluqman.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/seven-out-of-every-ten-converts-leave-islam-by-imam-luqman-ahmad/

      • Jay Boo says

        May 22, 2016 at 3:45 pm

        blasphemers to Islam ????
        (figuratively speaking) of course
        There is no such thing as blasphemers to Islam mort.

  11. Zeke Zick says

    May 22, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    India has a large nuclear Military, however there are political “forces” within India trying to break her up into many smaller countries. Maoist, Muslims, etc.

    India has close ties to Russia and is getting close to the U.S. as well.

    The fact is, people of different “Western” religions ( Evangelical Christians, Catholics, Jews) are as likely to be persecuted by Hindus’ in India, as by Muslims.

    • BlueRaven says

      May 22, 2016 at 4:26 pm

      Zig Zag – “The fact is, people of different “Western” religions ( Evangelical Christians, Catholics, Jews) are as likely to be persecuted by Hindus’ in India, as by Muslims.”

      The Fact?

      You won’t know a fact Zig Zag if it bite you on the top of your nose. It is more of your BC than anything else.

    • gravenimage says

      May 22, 2016 at 6:55 pm

      The fact is, people of different “Western” religions ( Evangelical Christians, Catholics, Jews) are as likely to be persecuted by Hindus’ in India, as by Muslims.
      ……………………

      What rot.

      • Paul says

        May 22, 2016 at 10:13 pm

        Jews have NEVER been persecuted in India, one of the few countries on the planet to be able to claim this badge of honor. Christians, on occasion have been ill-treated (in part due to Indian historical memory of European colonial intimidation, though not to excuse it), but by and large, India is an incredibly tolerant country. Definitely, this blame the victim comment is inappropriate. There is no comparison between democratic, tolerant India and its horrific Islamic neighborhood.

        • gravenimage says

          May 22, 2016 at 11:42 pm

          Very true, Paul.

        • baconator says

          May 25, 2016 at 1:31 am

          I will second that. India is a very tolerant country. It has 12% Muslim population. Just imagine how patient the 85% Hindus have to be. Jews and Zoroastrians from Mumbai adore Hindus. I’ve met some.

          The Hindus deeply resent active proselytization, ergo the animosity against Christian missions, but that is restricted to only a few pockets in the vast nation.

          The main peeve of Hindus is Islam, and the extra privileges Muslims get (government subsidized airline tickets to Mecca during Hajj!)

  12. KnowThyEnemy says

    May 22, 2016 at 3:28 pm

    Often people say that Indian Muslims are somehow different, that they are not extremists. Well… now we know that they are as susceptible to orthodox Islam as any other Muslim. A computer techie was arrested last year (from Bangalore?) who was running twitter accounts to do propaganda for IS. Now we have this engineering student who has joined IS.

    It should be obvious that there is plenty of jihad propaganda going on among educated Muslims in India. Indian Muslims are clearly not different from any other Muslims. Wherever there is Islam, you will also have jihadist Islam.

  13. Charli Main says

    May 22, 2016 at 3:51 pm

    As a general opinion, India is NOT afraid of the vermin infesting Pakistan. They are afraid of the United States of America. Indians are fully aware that taking on the Pakis, will also mean taking on the USA. The USA supplies the Pakis with billions of dollars worth of the most advanced weapons systems and could possibly put American boots on the ground to protect their beloved Paki ” allies”.

    Hopefully, if Donald Trump becomes the next POTUS, America´s apparent fixation with Pakistan will end.

    • Defiance says

      May 23, 2016 at 2:16 pm

      Did America put boots in the last 4 wars that India won with Pakistan or those advance weapons supplied to Pakistan had any outcome on the war. The last Kargil war where Indian army was fighting without any cover on the icy heights of Kargil, the ammo, planning, all those things come secondary to the outcome, primary is the guts of men who would not give up without a fight and when they fight they would not return without a victory.

      • Charli Main says

        May 23, 2016 at 4:32 pm

        The courage of the Indian Army is not and has never been in any doubt. The Indian Army fought brilliantly on the Somme and Flanders in WW 1 and at El Alamein, Monte Cassino and Burma in WW 11. When war was declared in 1939, the Indian Army, the largest totally volunteer force in history, was the first to move into position in and around Egypt and Eritrea.

  14. jewdog says

    May 22, 2016 at 3:52 pm

    IS may have lots of issues, but I’ll give them this: they’re consistent – and not very imaginative (unless you include execution techniques). Too bad the Koran doesn’t tell them all to go jump in the lake.

  15. Herb Planter says

    May 22, 2016 at 4:29 pm

    As someone else posted:
    As long as the islamist following population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

    United States Muslim 1.0%

    Australia Muslim 1.5%

    Canada Muslim 1.9%

    China Muslim 1%-2%

    Italy Muslim 1.5%

    Norway Muslim 1.8%

    At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

    Denmark Muslim 2%

    Germany Muslim 3.7%

    United Kingdom Muslim 2.7%

    Spain Muslim 4%

    Thailand Muslim 4.6%

    From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

    They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves along with threats for failure to comply. (United States ).

    France Muslim 8%

    Philippines Muslim 5%

    Sweden Muslim 5%

    Switzerland Muslim 4.3%

    The Netherlands Muslim 5.5%

    Trinidad &Tobago Muslim 5.8%

    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

    When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris car-burnings) . Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam Mohammed cartoons).

    Guyana Muslim 10%

    India Muslim 13.4%

    Israel Muslim 16%

    Kenya Muslim 10%

    Russia Muslim 10-15%

    After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

    Ethiopia Muslim 32.8%

    At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

    Bosnia Muslim 40%

    Chad Muslim 53.1%

    Lebanon Muslim 59.7%

    From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

    Albania Muslim 70%

    Malaysia Muslim 60.4%

    Qatar Muslim 77.5%

    Sudan Muslim 70%

    After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

    Bangladesh Muslim 83%

    Egypt Muslim 90%

    Gaza Muslim 98.7%

    Indonesia Muslim 86.1%

    Iran Muslim 98%

    Iraq Muslim 97%

    Jordan Muslim 92%

    Morocco Muslim 98.7%

    Pakistan Muslim 97%

    Palestine Muslim 99%

    Syria Muslim 90%

    Tajikistan Muslim 90%

    Turkey Muslim 99.8%

    United Arab Emirates Muslim 96%

    100% will usher in the peace of Dar-es-Salaam the Islamic House of Peace theres supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

    Afghanistan Muslim 100%

    Saudi Arabia Muslim 100%

    Somalia Muslim 100%

    Yemen Muslim 99.9%

    Of course, thats not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

    It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.

    • gravenimage says

      May 22, 2016 at 7:08 pm

      Yes–but even with tiny populations below 2%, Muslims will commit violent Jihad. We certainly see this in the United States, Canada, Australia, China, and Norway. There is no Muslim population small enough that it does not present a danger to us.

      • Trico says

        May 22, 2016 at 9:06 pm

        United States Muslim 1.0%”

        1% is for entire USA. But in Cities and Townships across the USA, the Muslims Obama has illegally flown in and brought in become a sizable percentage…and then the fun begins.

        • gravenimage says

          May 22, 2016 at 11:45 pm

          Yes–places like Dearnborn and Hamtramck in Michigan have become very disturbing, as have parts of Minnesota and northern Virginia.

      • Wellington says

        May 22, 2016 at 9:08 pm

        Agreed, gravenimage. Even one Muslim is problem enough, so screwed up, diabolical and completely objectionable are followers of Mo’s creed. Sure do wish the powers that be in the West would get this, Alas, such silly powers (examples being the current pontiff, the present PM of the UK, the BBC, The New York Times editorial staff, academics aplenty at prestigious schools like the Ivy League, the present PM of Canada and, of course, the doofus now occupying the Oval Office) not only don’t get this but they are doing all they can to increase the Muslim population of the West.

        No words. Sometimes, you know, words are superfluous. When I see silly Republicans like Paul Ryan, John McCain and Lyndsey Graham spouting the nonsense that they do about Islam, forget that no Democrat ever speaks anything but total nonsense about Mo’s creed, I want to pop another cold one and conclude that, after all, the planet earth is just one of many planets in a solar system which is a very tiny part of the Milky Way Galaxy, which is one of just at least a hundred billion galaxies in our universe, which might not be all there is because it might be only a small part of a multiverse and thus words to describe inanity and idiocy here on earth dwindle in the mind as any kind of priority.

        Well, I’m sure you get my drift here. Take care, even though you and I and everyone else in this goofy world matters not a whit to the universe (multiverse?) at large. Just sayin’.

        P.S. Pardon my cynicism. It is not inherent, I believe, but studiously learned over many decades from something called “living.” Well, the fact that Islam still gets a pass from so many tends to prove, rather than disprove, much or all of what I have averred here, no?

        • Halaku says

          May 23, 2016 at 1:52 am

          Well put, Wellington, old warrior. You are no cynic. Keep writing, Keep fighting!

        • gravenimage says

          May 23, 2016 at 8:27 pm

          Thanks for the reply, Wellington, my friend. Sorry it took so long to get back to you,

          We may not mean much to the universe, but our actions can mean a great deal to our fellow man–for good or ill, obviously.

          We have, sadly, had feckless leaders before–that does not leave us helpless. All the best to you, as always.

    • Truth Seeker says

      May 23, 2016 at 2:15 pm

      Muslim is not permitted to Integrate. They are the Supremacists and others are Inferior Creatures. They are to teach and Not to Learn anything from Others.
      In fact they could teach Butchering of Innocents, labeling inferior creatures.
      According Quran Sura. 8:65., only 10% of Muslims are Enough to Fight and Subjugate others.
      Now they are more than 20% of World Population and Very Confident of Conquering of World and Establishing World Caliphate and Implementing Sharia for which the Reward is Jannah the Myth. Thereby, as Muslim Population increases Terrorism and Butchering of Innocents will be on the Rise.Muslim is not permitted to act against Jihad in open or stealthily for the Punishment is Hell Fire (Myth).
      Every Muslim is a Soldier of Allah. Then where from the Peace lovers come? If anyone says it is Taqiyyah

    • SpiritOf1683 says

      May 23, 2016 at 3:38 pm

      Sadly those figures are around 10 years old. The UK Muislim population has gone up from 2.7% to around 4.5% in that time.The rest will have seen similatr increases.

      • Trico says

        May 23, 2016 at 6:55 pm

        Stop getting caught up in percentages of total population, That’s only relevant later. Right now when the Muslim Refugees.Migrants/Invaders segregate into their Muslim enclaves living under Sharia law, the population there is 100% Muslim. The enclave then builds a Mosque forming a mini-Caliphate which often becomes a No Go Zone.
        Then these mini-Caliphates start popping up all over and eventually combine into a larger or even just one Caliphate.
        Think about it. When these Muslim enclaves form operating under Sharia law and disregard local laws and customs the Muslims have already taken over territory and displaced the local population. It’s Jihad Bit By Bit.
        It’s foolish to wait until Muslims become a higher percentage of the general population before doing something. Once Political office is achieved, good luck getting your Country back.
        It’s sad that so many Citizens of Europe and Scandinavia no longer feel safe or at home in their Country of birth.
        Political Correctness, Political Awkwardness,
        Word Weapons: Racists, Islamophobia , and Criminally Corrupt
        Political Rulers did the Citizenship in NOT the Muslim Invaders.

  16. Kathy Brown, Esq. says

    May 22, 2016 at 5:33 pm

    ‘Submit…pay jizya…or prepare to be slaughtered’, eh? No , see: There’s a fourth option awaiting you lowlife cowards who like to behead tied-up captives and rape little children….

    And that option is awaiting each and every one of you muslims, here in the good ‘ol U S of A. Which is: An ARMED CITIZEN who will gladly blow your f_ _ _ _ _g head off, should you attempt to ‘subjugate’ one of us.

    See: We Americans have a little something which you hadn’t counted on. It’s called ‘The Second Amendment’. And we are DELIGHTED to introduce you to it. Here’s what you do: C’mon over here. Start your sharia S_ _T. Then wait to be blown to your own particular islamic ‘heaven’, which is really HELL, where your god ‘allah’ waits to make YOU submit-for all eternity-to HIS torture.

    I swear: I’m getting to where I hope I get to ‘interact’ with one of you. And I’m a woman, never in the Military, and relatively NEW to the joys of concealed carry!

    Just imagine, muslimes, what our MEN have waiting for you. Not to mention our MILITARY under a REAL Commander in Chief, PRESIDENT TRUMP?????????

    I can guarantee you a really American ‘welcome’.

    • Trico says

      May 22, 2016 at 9:27 pm

      “our MILITARY under a REAL Commander in Chief, PRESIDENT TRUMP”

      Let’s hope that comes true. Both Obama & Hillary want to disarm America and have been eyeballing how Australia disarmed Australians.
      1. Order Mandatory Gun Registration
      2. Them offer a Voluntary Gun BuyBack Program.
      3. Subtract the Gun BuyBack List from the Gun Registration List then forcibly at gun point confiscate the rest of the guns remaining.
      –
      “Clinton Praises Australian Gun Buyback Program – Washington Free Beacon”
      –
      “NRA: Obama, Clinton want Australian-style gun confiscation | TheHill”
      –
      But just like Alcohol Prohibition, there are often unexpected consequences:
      “Australia’s Gun ‘Buyback’ Created a Violent Firearms Black Market”
      –

  17. gravenimage says

    May 22, 2016 at 6:12 pm

    Islamic State to India: “Either accept Islam, pay jizya or prepare to be slaughtered”
    ………………………….

    This is canonical Islam: Infidels are “warned” in just this manner; then the slaughter begins.

    The only thing that is not strictly orthodox is extending the “option” of Jizya beyond the “People of the Book” to “Polytheists” like the Hindus–but Muslims have actually done this many times before. Hindus have been frequently treated like dhimmis, rather than just converted or mass-murdered, mostly for two reasons: there are too many to kill, and since this is the case, Muslims consider it more practical to abuse and exploit them.

    This was the condition of most Hindu populations under Muslim rule in India historically.

    More:

    In the video, a Jihadi is supposed to have stated that the people in India are killing Muslims on some pretext or the other, like in the “name of the cow” and he states that their women are not safe and they are being forced to revert to Hinduism. They hold the hindus who worship cows responsible for committing various atrocities, against the Muslims.
    ………………………….

    Two things here: Jihad in India is not, of course, usually resisted specifically in the name of Hinduism, and the government certainly is not–but Muslims want to make this into another ‘religious war’–just as when they refer to those in the West who resist Jihad as “Crusaders”, as though they were all zealous Christians gratuitously attacking Muslims out of unprovoked religious hatred (which was, of course, not the case with the Crusades either, but never mind).

    Then there is that odd reference to women. This clearly does not refer to Muslim women forcibly converted to Hinduism–this simply does not happen; Hindus do not do this Then there is the odd phrasing of their “being forced to revert to Hinduism”–“revert” is usually used to refer to those converting to Islam.

    But Hindu women are often kidnapped and raped and forced to convert *to* Islam.

    Here’s my guess: some of these kidnapped women have been freed by Indian police or security or have managed to escape on their own, have returned to their families, and have returned to their Hindu faith.

    These Muslims have grotesquely chosen to characterize this as these women being forced to revert to Hinduism.

    This should not surprise–Muslims have done this many times before, including half way around the world in Egypt, where Coptic women returning to their families and to their Christian faith after having been kidnapped by Muslims have faced violent Muslim mobs insanely claiming that they were forced to convert to Christianity.

    But any women once converted to Islam–including through force–are now considered by Muslims to be *their women*.

    I’m *sure* this is what is happening here in India, as well.

    God, I hate Islam.

    • Trico says

      May 22, 2016 at 8:52 pm

      They hold the hindus who worship cows”

      I’m confused. If the Hindus worship cows shouldn’t they be called “Mooslums” or will that be too confusing?

    • Halaku says

      May 23, 2016 at 2:15 am

      Muslims realised long ago the advantage of marrying above their mental class, as it infuses brains, always in short supply among them. Christian and Hindu girls have always been prized by them.

      • gravenimage says

        May 23, 2016 at 8:37 pm

        I don’t think Muslims have every much admired Infidels’ minds–especially those of women.

        Instead, they like kidnapping and raping Kuffar women both because they can usually physically intimidate them, and because it humiliates Infidel men when they cannot protect them.

        God, I hate Islam.

  18. Jay Boo says

    May 22, 2016 at 7:26 pm

    Solution

    1 — Set up phony websites to entice ISIS wanabe’s
    2 — Hold a war criminal tribunal.
    3 — Sort these terrorists into two groups.

    Group A the (Dirty Laundry)
    — send away to be washed clean at Mortimer’s School of Deprogramming.

    Group B the ( Cat Litter)
    — Dispose of this poop quickly in a sanitary manner.

  19. Paul says

    May 22, 2016 at 10:05 pm

    Yes, but these jihadis hide in mosques, hospitals, and schools, behind old people and children, like the HAMAS in Gaza, and if you go after them too hard, with collateral damage, the West cries foul.

  20. SD says

    May 23, 2016 at 1:40 am

    Islam is a death cult not a religion. They revere a false prophet who himself was a murderer, rapist, enslaver & genocidist.
    And Islam teaches muslims to look down on non muslims like in some Herrenmenschen Ideology.
    They call themselves peace but threaten people with death when they make justifiable critisisms.

  21. duh swami says

    May 23, 2016 at 7:45 am

    All religions created religious supremacist bigots…YOURS is not exempt…

    ‘Why6 ” Why argue the existence of gods when there are forces in the ubiverse that act just like the gods are supposed to act’…

    These forces should be recognized and utilized if possible,,,but never be worshipped…

  22. opinionmaker says

    May 23, 2016 at 2:03 pm

    To prevent the release of indian movie “viswaroopam” ( it is about how indian spy destroying the nuclear terror attack plan of al Qaeda in America )(available in YouTube) indian muslim groups conducted mass protests and made the state government to sensor core scenes of the movie

    This is the reality in India
    Indian politicians will never loose Muslim vote banks

  23. David says

    May 23, 2016 at 2:39 pm

    Any country that pays muslims for not working, i.e. welfare or benefits, as the case may be, is paying jizzya! The muslims are delighted. They can spend their days biting the hand that feeds them while enjoying the fruits of being a protected class. “What idiots these dhimmis are,” they think and say, waving their banners and parading their nonsense on public streets and roads. They can get away with any amount of civil unrest and law breaking that would normally put the dhimmis into jail. Hopefully with a change of government some of this will be alleviated, but I would not bet on it.

  24. rabrooks says

    May 23, 2016 at 7:08 pm

    How could issi or any mudslime group make a blanket statement like this, and doesn’t expect to get mudslimes killed?

    • gravenimage says

      May 23, 2016 at 8:41 pm

      Because Infidels as a group do not murder others.

  25. John P Taylor says

    May 24, 2016 at 5:10 am

    A large part of India is already muslim dominated and the numbers are ever increasing. Things may not be so easy.

    • KnowThyEnemy says

      May 24, 2016 at 3:04 pm

      Things are not difficult when one is prepared. What is needed is the will to become prepared. Slow and steady wins the race!

  26. sidney penny says

    May 24, 2016 at 11:34 am

    http://voiceofdharma.org/books/tcqp/index.htm

    http://voiceofdharma.org/books/tcqp/chii4.htm

    The Calcutta Quran Petition

    The Koran, also spelt as Quran, the so-called religious book of the Muslims the world over.

    It is a Book which incites violence, disturbs public tranquility, promotes, on ground of religion, feelings of enmity, hatred and ill-will between different religious communities and insults other religions or religious beliefs of other communities.

    Non-Muslims have to learn to knock out Islam’s ideological fangs which are rooted in the Quran.

    The Book has verses which preaches cruelty, incites violence and disturbs public tranquility. Chapter 4

    The Book promotes religious enmity, hatred, and ill-will between different religious communities. Chapter 5

    The Book insults other religions or religious beliefs of other communities. Chapter 6

    While the Koran abounds with saying which incite violence, insult the religious beliefs of other communities and even exhort the Muslims to kill and murder non-Muslims, the problem is aggravated by yet another fact which has been true in the past and is universally true in our own times that unlike other communities Muslims are, and even fresh converts tend to become, highly orthodox people and follow the sayings of the book with a fanatical zeal with the result that whichever country has their sizable number amongst its population can never have peace on its soil.

    This was said in 1985 and it is still true today 2016

    The offending expressions contained in the Koran and quoted above are not so offensive in their translation in which they are so quoted as they are in the original verses in Arabic or in Urdu, the very sound of whose inimitable symphony not only sends the Muslims to tears and ecstasy but arouses in them the worst communal passions and religious fanaticism which have manifested themselves in murder, slaughter, loot, arson, rape and destruction or desecration of holy places in historical times as also in contemporary period not only in India but almost all over the world.

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