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Journalist who infiltrated ISIS cell says he “never saw any Islam,” as they spoke of virgins of Paradise

May 7, 2016 1:01 pm By Robert Spencer

“One of the main lessons was that I never saw any Islam. No will to improve the world. Only lost, frustrated, suicidal, easily manipulated youths.” Ramai thus assumes that Islam involves a will to improve the world, when in fact the Islam that he claims he never saw any evidence of was staring him in the face: “The documentary shows how Ramai was brought into the group with a promise of a ‘path to paradise’, adding: ‘Our women are waiting for us there, with angels as servants. You will have a palace, a winged horse of gold and rubies.'”

Where does Rabai think that these Islamic State jihadis got this idea? From Marxism? From deconstructionist theory? If he had an ounce of knowledge of Islam, or honesty, he would know it is from the Qur’an, which describes Paradise in similar terms: “Those will have gardens of perpetual residence; beneath them rivers will flow. They will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and will wear green garments of fine silk and brocade, reclining therein on adorned couches. Excellent is the reward, and good is the resting place.” (18:31)

And of course the houris are there: “Indeed, We have produced the women of Paradise in a creation and made them virgins…” (56:35-36)

But even though the jihadis appealed to him in this manner, Ramai says he “never saw any Islam” among them. And of course this is just what the counter-terror establishment wants to hear: the arrogant pseudo-academic puffball Max Abrahms tweeted this one out, as it fits the dominant paradigm that the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam:

Abrahms reporter never saw any Islam

Abrahms, an establishment counter-terror analyst, is either unaware that the virgins of Paradise are actually in the Qur’an and have something to do with Islam, or was too careless to read the article before tweeting it out.

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“IS cell infiltrated by French journalist ‘lost and suicidal,'” Middle East Eye, May 3, 2016:

A cell of Islamic State group supporters planning an attack in France was full of “lost, frustrated, suicidal, easily manipulated youths” and knew little of Islam, according to a French journalist who infiltrated the gang.

Said Ramai, an assumed named [sic], said he “easily” contacted the “Soldiers of Allah” on Facebook and joined for six months before leaving in January.

He filmed meetings with a hidden camera as they plotted to attack a night club, the footage of which was broadcast on Monday in the documentary, “Allah’s Soldiers”.

The cell consisted of 10 members and was led by a 20-year-old French-Turkish man called Oussama who, according to the documentary, was once a Satanist and an alcoholic who had been jailed for five months in France after trying to join IS in Syria.

“My goal was to understand what was going on inside their heads,” Ramai told the AFP news agency in comments reported on Monday.

“One of the main lessons was that I never saw any Islam. No will to improve the world. Only lost, frustrated, suicidal, easily manipulated youths.

“They are youngsters who are looking for something and that is what they found.”

The documentary shows how Ramai was brought into the group with a promise of a “path to paradise”, adding: “Our women are waiting for us there, with angels as servants. You will have a palace, a winged horse of gold and rubies.”…

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  1. Jay Boo says

    May 7, 2016 at 1:06 pm

    A journalist with a lost preconceived premise grasping in search of finding a supporting conclusion.

    • Dean says

      May 8, 2016 at 4:47 am

      Among other things Isis is a nihilistic death cult but these cupcakes are looking for is some kind of idealism so they are clueless to start and lost in their own mental wilderness at the end. All they want to do is smash, kill and destroy like every angry 5 year old throwing a tantrum. Ii assuages their manipulated inner beast.

  2. jihad3tracker says

    May 7, 2016 at 1:12 pm

    ROBERT THOROUGHLY SHREDDED MAX ABRAHMS RECENTLY ON ANOTHER SUBJECT — as you will see by his link lead or using the search box.

    Poor Max cannot ditch Jihad Watch’s finding every pathetic scribble by this “scholar” — maybe if Reza Poofy-poof Aslan is free, he can help.

    • Jack Holan says

      May 7, 2016 at 1:39 pm

      Max, you need to start think for yourself not relying on reporters/journalists who sell stories(you bought) and newspapers. Where is your ‘Professionalism’. Do your research, Man!

  3. Christianblood says

    May 7, 2016 at 1:28 pm

    In the meantime, US tells Syria that “Assad must go” by August this year or else they will start giving much more sophisticated weaponry to their barbaric Syrian jihadist allies, including service-to-air-missles! Why does Washington believe that it has the right to impose its evil, pro-jihadist destructive will on a sovereign nation thousands of miles from its own shores?Read more:

    http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160507/1039242912/kerry-ultimatum-assad-syria.html#ixzz47zYKjH00
    will on a sovereign nation thousands of miles from its own shores?

    • SBJ says

      May 8, 2016 at 12:12 am

      Here read this, it will explain quite a bit.

      http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-secret-stupid-saudi-us-deal-on-syria/5410130

      • Christianblood says

        May 8, 2016 at 10:34 am

        SBJ

        That is right and thanks for the link. I learned the same info on the video link below earlier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iVL5Vibm0M

        The sad thing is that American people are not really aware of these deeper facts and yet this kind of foolish misadventure can lead a catastrophic world war iii.

  4. Mockingjay says

    May 7, 2016 at 1:28 pm

    Yeah I read an article in a newspaper about this and wondered about the same thing. Howcome these men were deemed “totally un-islamic” – just because they spent a lot of time on facebook and didn’t go to mosques much?
    So if you live like that it doesn’t matter that your whole believe system is drenched in islamic traditions and convictions?
    Islam is the air these subjects breathed from before birth and therefore their “knowledge” of islam was and is intrinsic.
    But of course, as Robert points out – that doesn’t count.

  5. Angemon says

    May 7, 2016 at 1:30 pm

    A cell of Islamic State group supporters planning an attack in France was full of “lost, frustrated, suicidal, easily manipulated youths” and knew little of Islam, according to a French journalist who infiltrated the gang.

    Well, it’s a good thing this journalist knows a lot about islam – why else would he be telling us there was little islam to be found inside it?

    You know, I saw a report a few months ago about a journalist in either Brazil or Portugal (IIRC it was on a Portuguese language media) who tried to contact an islamic state recruiter via Facebook. The first thing he asked was “what do I need to do to join you in Syria”. The reply? “You need to become a muslim”. I can imagine that after such “rigorous” selection, discussion of islamic theology would take a back seat to discussion of tactics and planning of terror attacks. I.e., my guess is that the individuals in that particular IS cell weren’t spending a lot of time discussing islamic scripture because they all assumed everyone else was on the same wavelength as them (“can’t wait to blow myself up and earn my 72 virgins”).

  6. Jack Holan says

    May 7, 2016 at 1:32 pm

    Robert,
    You see what has happened in your absence of just a few short years or was Max Abrahms a lost case from the get go. You would think he would want to polish his craft and develop an acumen by reading the Quran, Hadith, Sunnah and learn Arabic. Oh well! There seems to be in the West whether its here, Europe Australia or Canada a rejection that they aren’t like us that they’ll accept the “universal message” once they hear and see it despite all the evidence to the contrary. The belief we must lower our beliefs and way of life and accept their way of life and beliefs. When and where did this goof-ball philosophy come about. This was not always there and the fight for survival seems to have left many of our people.

  7. marc says

    May 7, 2016 at 1:34 pm

    Max Abrahms wishing really hard that islam wasn’t islam

  8. Keith says

    May 7, 2016 at 1:46 pm

    Of course this “investigative reporter” never saw any Islam in 6 months of secret filming, he has most likely never seen a koran let alone had the audacity to actually read it and do some research into what all those verses of hatred, violence and claims that Mohammad is the perfect example of how a muslim man should behave actually mean.
    Why would he, to do that he would have to consider himself an Islamophobe.

  9. Paul says

    May 7, 2016 at 1:48 pm

    Maybe this ‘journalist’ expected to see some kind of physical
    tangible form of islam, as opposed to the everyday set of ideas
    and conduct based upon islamic doctrine.
    Of course, it could be another absurd situation where he knows
    that we know he’s lying through his teeth. In most other
    professions such incompetence and laziness would be rewarded
    with dismissal.

  10. Jay Boo says

    May 7, 2016 at 2:14 pm

    Where have all the Muslims gone?
    The literals have lost them.
    ————–
    Where have all the flowers gone?
    Young girls have picked them everyone
    Where have all the young girls gone?
    Gone for husbands everyone
    Where have all the husbands gone?
    Gone for soldiers everyone
    Where have all the soldiers gone?
    Gone to graveyards, everyone
    Where have all the graveyards gone?
    Gone to flowers, everyone
    Oh, when will they ever learn?

    Where have all the flowers gone?
    Young girls have picked them everyone
    Long time passing
    Long time ago
    ——————————————-

    Pete Seeger-Where Have all the Flowers Gone

  11. Jay Boo says

    May 7, 2016 at 2:16 pm

    The ( liberals) have lost them.
    fat fingers should not trust spell check

  12. Walter Sieruk says

    May 7, 2016 at 2:23 pm

    Maybe that journalist didn’t want to see any Islam in any ISIS cell. For Islam with it’s doctrines of a paradise with virgins ,houris, is ,very much part of Islam. Furthermore, such heinous jihad ISIS suicide /homicide bombings in Paris, Brussels ,Afghanistan , Iraq and many other countries does raise the question is as to why are the jihadist bombers are , so very, delusional that they actually want to become human bombs ? Some of the reasons are that such violent and deadly people are the outcome of the extreme brainwashing that is done in Islamic mind programming centers which are more widely known as mosques and madrasas, by the Muslim clerics, such as the imams and in some countries as Afghanistan and Iran also the mullahs. In those Islamic mind programming centers youth are thoroughly indoctrinated into believing in the Islamic doctrine from the Koran. as found in 44;54. 55:56. 78:31.., of a sexual/lust filled paradise with many virgins, houris, in it for the Muslim male who dies fighting for the cause of Islam in the jihad. First and foremost, those who come out of those places of extreme brainwash are so very warped, sick and deluded that they actually view such murderous bombing attacks as “martyrdom operations” Likewise, they are so very damaged that they have literally become dangerous to self and others. In addition, the Bible does warn about false teachers who ingrain a belief in a doctrine of a story of a /lustful/lust-filled place with much sex in it. For the Bible warns about false teachers, the Muslim clerics do fit this description, in Second Peter 2:18. Which reads “For they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh…” Furthermore, many a times a jihad –minded Muslim in his death recording talks about “the wedding with the virgins” that he will have after he becomes a “martyr.” Such a belief Jesus would denounce as being based on false doctrine and false teaching. For Jesus taught “Ye do err, not knowing the scripture, nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angles in heaven.” Mathew 22:29, 30. In contrast to the delusional Islamic pipe-dream of the jihadist in the Koranic story/doctrine of a place with virgins, Christians have the reality of Second Peter 1:16. Which reads “For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ…” [K.J.V.]

  13. Lizzy says

    May 7, 2016 at 2:23 pm

    The only will of islamics to improve the world is by conversion (forced if necessary) to islam.

  14. mortimer says

    May 7, 2016 at 2:55 pm

    Max Abrahams has apparently not read the Koran with any great care or has not read the Koran at all. By reading the Koran, Sira and hadiths, we discover that Islam’s true purpose is Muhammad’s emolument and empowerment through conquest. There is in Islam no program for improving the world through science, technology or philosophy, no plan for extending human rights, education or health or standard of living. Islam’s focus is conquest and enslavement and sexual gratification of Islam’s alpha males with slaves on earth and later in paradise.

    Did Max Abrahams read Islam’s foundational source texts? It appears he has no idea what’s in them? Is this a scholar?

    • mortimer says

      May 7, 2016 at 3:31 pm

      Max Abrahams apparently has not studied Islamic theology. Islam is fatalistic and so provides no plan for improving anything. Progress is Allah’s concern and Islamic societies have no concern for progress whatsoever, not changing for hundreds of years. The only worry of an Islamic society is the implementation of strict Sharia. 65% of Muslims say they want strict Sharia. In fact, they want Western passports so they can avoid Sharia and enjoy freedom from it.

      Abrahams has not discovered that real Islam is highly paranoid with an us-them mentality that is always aroused.

      Political Scientist Hamed Abdel-Samad has said: “Islam has no convincing answers to the challenges of the 21st century. It is in intellectual, moral and cultural decline — a doomed religion, without self-awareness and without any options to act…In a sense, Islam is like a drug, like alcohol. A small amount can have a healing and inspiring effect, but when the believer reaches for the bottle of dogmatic faith in every situation, it gets dangerous. This high-proof form of Islam is what I’m talking about. It harms the individual and damages society. It inhibits integration, because this Islam divides the world into friends and enemies, into the faithful and the infidels.”

  15. Jay Boo says

    May 7, 2016 at 3:12 pm

    (Fill in the Blank) has apparently not read the Koran with any great care or has not read the Koran at all. By reading the Koran, Sira and hadiths, we discover
    Blaaaaaaaah Blah Blah
    —————
    “Did Max Abrahams read Islam’s foundational source texts? It appears he has no idea what’s in them? Is this a scholar?”
    Blah Blah Blah
    ———————————

    Go get him mort
    Show him your scholarship

    • Jay Boo says

      May 7, 2016 at 3:15 pm

      Why not save typing and give a link to your:

      (Koran & Hadith scholarship) Cut and Paste spam?

      • mortimer says

        May 7, 2016 at 3:35 pm

        You haven’t read them either.

        • Jay Boo says

          May 7, 2016 at 6:17 pm

          either ???

          Ha!
          You admit it.

        • mortimer says

          May 7, 2016 at 10:13 pm

          It will take you a few years.

        • Jay Boo says

          May 8, 2016 at 12:23 am

          My point Mortimer is that instead of repeatedly discrediting and making a grand pronouncement of what someone in each article heading does not know about Islam and implying that (you) however are so much wiser, why not cut right to the chase.

          Save some words and then show off your grand knowledge and let that stand or fall on its own merits.

  16. overman says

    May 7, 2016 at 4:02 pm

    “And of course the houris are there: “Indeed, We have produced the women of Paradise in a creation and made them virgins…” (56:35-36)”

    Shouldn’t that be 72 Raisins in Paradise LOL

    David Wood made a hilarious video about this:

    https://youtu.be/TNL8xugDNZQ

    • Keys says

      May 7, 2016 at 5:48 pm

      Thanks for this video and the laughs that go with it, overman.

      I think the dark eyed raisins could refer to M&Ms dipped in milk chocolate, thereby making the chocolate almonds drenched in chocolate the large breasted raisins.
      If houris are raisins, there obviously were M&Ms in the time of Mohammed; another Muslim invention – the M&Ms, I mean.

  17. Fessitude says

    May 7, 2016 at 4:04 pm

    “Said Ramai, an assumed named [sic], said he “easily” contacted the “Soldiers of Allah” on Facebook and joined for six months before leaving in January.”

    We can reasonably assume he looks Muslim enough to pass the paranoid suspicions of the Muslim terror cell (another reasonable assumption — that they would be highly suspicious of being infiltrated). It is not impossible — but less likely — that he was a white guy who tried to convince them he had converted to Islam and told them his new Islamic name. It is also possible — but less likely — that he was a Middle Eastern non-Muslim who, ipso facto, has dhimmi reflexes enough to want to help Islam enough to do this stunt (the stunt being propaganda for Islam being not like ISIS). Still possible, but even less likely, he was a European from Mediterranean climes — a Spaniard, an Italian, a Greek perhaps, who could pass for a Middle Easterner. Depending, however, on the terror cell members’ capability to granularize the fine distinctions between say an Italian trying to pass as an Egyptian and thus to spot an infiltrator, this would be exceedingly risky for the undercover journalist, if that were the case. Regardless, if he were not a Muslim, he’s a Leftist — activist enough to want to help Islam enough to do this stunt (the stunt being propaganda for Islam being not like ISIS).

    So, the long and the short of it is that it is most reasonable to assume that “Said Ramai” is a Muslim.

    At that point, if the Counter-Jihad had healthy instincts and reflexes (based upon a rational prejudice against all Muslims), it would automatically assume that “Said Ramai” is obviously doing jihad-of-the-pen taqiyya (and that, of course, it’s working to gull the Mainstream, ever anxious to try to convince itself that the same Islam of the nice Muslims it knows in daily life cannot possibly be the same as the monstrously evil ideology of ISIS).
    He filmed meetings with a hidden camera as they plotted to attack a night club, the footage of which was broadcast on Monday in the documentary, “Allah’s Soldiers”.

    The cell consisted of 10 members and was led by a 20-year-old French-Turkish man called Oussama who, according to the documentary, was once a Satanist and an alcoholic who had been jailed for five months in France after trying to join IS in Syria.

    “My goal was to understand what was going on inside their heads,” Ramai told the AFP news agency in comments reported on Monday.

    • Fessitude says

      May 7, 2016 at 4:06 pm

      all the stuff from “He filmed meetings” on I forgot to delete (another reasonable assumption if I hadn’t told the reader…)

    • Angemon says

      May 7, 2016 at 4:28 pm

      Fessitude posted:

      “So, the long and the short of it is that it is most reasonable to assume that “Said Ramai” is a Muslim.”

      Because race, right? He must have been a “brown person” otherwise he could not pass as a muslim. The irony here, voeg, is that such an assertion (that he “looks Muslim enough to pass the paranoid suspicions of the Muslim terror cell“) only strengthens the leftist-supported idea that islamic terror has nothing to do with islam. Why else would he have passed their test not because of his knowledge of islam but because the colour of his skin? See, they’re just disenfranchised people of colour, nothing to do with islam, that’s why they let a “brown person” into their midst – a white person wouldn’t have passed their paranoid suspicions!

      “At that point, if the Counter-Jihad had healthy instincts and reflexes (based upon a rational prejudice against all Muslims)”

      Or, as in this case, people you suspect to be muslims, because race.

      “it would automatically assume that “Said Ramai” is obviously doing jihad-of-the-pen taqiyya (and that, of course, it’s working to gull the Mainstream, ever anxious to try to convince itself that the same Islam of the nice Muslims it knows in daily life cannot possibly be the same as the monstrously evil ideology of ISIS).”

      Would anyone in the CJ movement take this report even less seriously if they knew that its author was a muslim? Let’s see: up to this moment I don’t see a single comment here taking it seriously, I assume because they’re familiar enough with the subject matter to know better. Would the professed religion of its author change anything about that? I would bet my last cent on “No, It Wouldn’t”.

      But do tell, voeg: how is this alleged lack of “healthy instincts and reflexes (based upon a rational prejudice against all Muslims)” making CJ’ers take this report seriously?

    • overman says

      May 7, 2016 at 5:21 pm

      “So, the long and the short of it is that it is most reasonable to assume that “Said Ramai” is a Muslim”

      From what l’ve read he was a ‘French Muslim Journalist’.

      • Fessitude says

        May 8, 2016 at 4:22 pm

        Do you know his real name?

      • Jack Diamond says

        May 8, 2016 at 5:17 pm

        I couldn’t bring up the original piece from AFP but it is quoted here:
        http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/french-journalist/2749032.html

        PARIS: A French journalist infiltrated a cell of would-be militants, filming them with a hidden camera as they plotted an attack in the name of the Islamic State group, before they were arrested, he told AFP.

        The journalist, a Muslim using the pseudonym Said Ramzi, carried out the investigation for a documentary entitled “Allah’s Soldiers” which gives an insight into the minds of young militants, and will be shown in France on Monday night.

        Ramzi describes himself as a Muslim “of the same generation as the killers” who carried out the Nov 13 terror attacks which left 130 people dead in Paris.

        “They had the misfortune of being born in the era that the Islamic State exists. It is very sad. They are youngsters who are looking for something and that is what they found.”

        A Muslim journalist goes undercover in order to “prove” there is nothing of Islam to be found in the motivation of these “young militants” or in the Islamic State.
        A Muslim told you so, so it must be true.

        • Fessitude says

          May 9, 2016 at 4:44 am

          Exactly, Jack Diamond. (Now why can’t Angemon come to that conclusion…?)

        • Angemon says

          May 9, 2016 at 7:20 am

          Fessitude posted:

          “(Now why can’t Angemon come to that conclusion…?)”

          What conclusion would that be? I asked you the following: would anyone in the CJ movement take this report even less seriously if they knew that its author was a muslim? Still waiting for an answer on that.

          Anyway, it seems your “conclusion” (“the journalist probably had brown skin therefore muslim therefore he’s lying”) pales in comparison to my conclusion (“I don’t care about the race and religion of the people who wrote that article, it’s pure nonsense and it should be treated as such”).

    • Mazo says

      May 8, 2016 at 10:45 pm

      There are Arabs who look whiter than a northern European. Many Europeans would be of a positively fecal matter complexion compared to former Saudi King Abdullah.

      • Jack Diamond says

        May 8, 2016 at 11:16 pm

        Still, better to look like it than to be full of it.

        • Angemon says

          May 9, 2016 at 8:02 am

          Have you been close to Arabs? I wouldn’t mind if they were full of it if only they could keep its smell in check.

      • Jay Boo says

        May 8, 2016 at 11:40 pm

        Mazo gives the impression of writing about one thing while slithering in with something else.

        I will not take the bait from this sorry-ass Master Baiter

      • Angemon says

        May 9, 2016 at 8:00 am

        Mazo posted:

        “There are Arabs who look whiter than a northern European.”

        First of all, who spoke of Arabs? Why the thin skin? Second, I bet your explanation would be “rawr, rawr, Eastern women, rawr, rawr, the only Arab thing in his genome is his Y chromosome”.

        “Many Europeans would be of a positively fecal matter complexion compared to former Saudi King Abdullah.”

        Like, for example, this guy:

        https://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/9/26/1411757522428/Anjem-Choudary-014.jpg

        • Mazo says

          May 9, 2016 at 1:26 pm

          King Abdullah did not have non-Arab ancestry on any side of the family. His mother was from the Shammar tribe.

        • Angemon says

          May 9, 2016 at 5:04 pm

          You wouldn’t happen to have his lineage back to the 7th century handy, would you? It’s not that I don’t trust you, it’s just that I know you’re a consummate liar who is not above making stuff up on the spot.

  18. Guest says

    May 7, 2016 at 5:09 pm

    ISIS is already dead inside.

    • Fessitude says

      May 9, 2016 at 4:45 am

      Sure; but unfortunately doing a deadly St. Vitus dance with weapons in cadaverous hands…

  19. SD says

    May 7, 2016 at 5:19 pm

    This Journalist if you can even call him that is fool. From the very beginning islam has been a violent ideology because muhammed the false prophet was a rapist, paedophile, adulterer, instigator, agitator, murder, mass murderer and genocidist and because muslims see him as a perfect role model the world is having the problems that we are seeing with muslims.

  20. Jay Boo says

    May 7, 2016 at 6:14 pm

    Dang!
    Lost the Key
    This encrypted file is still a mystery.

    Something to do with Islam is peace.

  21. underbed cat says

    May 7, 2016 at 7:30 pm

    French journalist who embedded with Isis, well maybe he had to convert first, then spend 6 month, see what he saw and reported no Islam. But what else could he do if he had to convert…he saw it but didn’t say he did because as we all know…they would or could get very upset…and that could be breaking sharia.

    This journalist was in a unusual situation.

    Plus would he still have a job?

    • Fessitude says

      May 9, 2016 at 4:46 am

      See above; he is a Muslim “journalist” (jihad of the pen)..

  22. abad says

    May 7, 2016 at 8:18 pm

    Considering the vast majority of western journalists are bleeding-heart liberals who think Islam is the “only way to paradise on earth” – they not only turn a blind eye to ISL, the Quran, the preaching of imams – they have created a totally false Islam that has no basis in reality.

    Islam is regressive – highly regressive – and caters to the most base of instincts in the human race. In fact, so base is Islam is that it is actually anti-human, anti-conscience, anti-life.

    Islam is the Religion of Death and its deity is Satan.

    John Ch. 5, 10, 14, 15

    The Quran is a Falsehood and Satan is the author of the Falsehood.

  23. Trico says

    May 8, 2016 at 8:15 am

    “French-Turkish man called Oussama who, according to the documentary, was once a Satanist”
    Well, I don’t know if this good news for Oussama or bad, if he took up the mantle of Islamic Jihad, he’s still a Satanist.
    Satan by any other name is just as Evil.

  24. Mirren10 says

    May 8, 2016 at 8:34 am

    “One of the main lessons was that I never saw any Islam. No will to improve the world. Only lost, frustrated, suicidal, easily manipulated youths.

    “They are youngsters who are looking for something and that is what they found.”

    Not only is this taqiyya artist busy whitewashing islam, he’s also trickling down the idea that it’s *our* fault. We just haven’t enfranchised them enough, integrated them enough, given them enough jobs, been nice enough , blah, blah, blah.

    As for this idiot Abrahms, how he has the brass neck to call himself a ‘scholar’, I don’t know !

  25. Jack Diamond says

    May 8, 2016 at 11:31 am

    “A cell of Islamic State group supporters planning an attack in France was full of “lost, frustrated, suicidal, easily manipulated youths” and knew little of Islam.”

    Whoever this so-called journalist was with, the truth is the Islamic State has a heavily-regimented training procedure for its fighters of which religious training in sharia is central.

    “Sharia training varies from one member to another, depending on the group’s assessment of his value or loyalty. New recruits join training that ranges from two weeks, one month, 45 days, six months up to one year. Inside the camps, students receive a mix of military, political and sharia orientation, usually given by around five instructors. During training, recruits can be dispatched to checkpoints but not to the frontlines. After they graduate, they will remain under supervision and can be expelled or punished in case of noncompliance – including being lashed if they express reservations. In some cases, new members who struggle with the brutality of the group’s acts will be sent back to receive more training to “strengthen” their faith.

    “You first get the basics about religion,” said Abu Moussa, an Isis-affiliated religious cleric in eastern Syria but originally from Aleppo. “They cleanse you from religious innovations and Ba’athist ideas. Issuing fatwas is restricted to clerics and nobody can kill without a fatwa unless in the battlefield. You also study Arabic and learn how to speak in standard Arabic if you don’t know.”

    “In terms of indoctrination, Isis generally steers clear of exposing new members to teachings that are not derived from sharia texts. New members are almost exclusively exposed to religious books, while established members or commanders can study manuals such as Management of Savagery, a jihad book written by an Abu Bakr Naji, who said that you should distinguish between jihad and other religious tenets in that jihad is not about mercy but about extreme retaliatory violence to deter enemies. The restriction of religious training to religious texts is in line with the group’s rhetoric that it is an extension of authentic Islam rather than a new group with its own set of teachings.

    “Indeed, one of the fascinating insights we found is that Isis presents the “mainstream” Islam practised by Muslims today as one that was “invented” over the past few decades. To unravel this so-called invented Islam, Isis deliberately digs deep into Islamic sharia and history to find arcane teaching and then magnify it. It does so to shock its potential recruits and demonstrate it is preaching a pure and true Islam obscured by the mainstream.”

    “As part of research involving in-depth interviews with Isis members for a book about the organisation, American analyst Michael Weiss and I have identified half a dozen categories of Isis members according to the factors that drew them to the group. In at least two of those categories, religion more than anything else has been the driving force. But these two demographic components – long-standing takfiris (radicals who adhere to teachings that declare fellow Muslims as infidels) and young zealots – are more central for Isis than other members because they formulate the group’s identity and ensure its resilience. In addition, the appeal of Isis outside its conflict zones tends to be primarily ideologically driven.”

    From a much more real and informed investigation into ISIS by Hassan Hassan and Michael Weiss http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/25/inside-isis-training-camps

    • Jack Diamond says

      May 8, 2016 at 11:57 am

      “A cell of Islamic State group supporters…called Allah’s Soldiers… meetings were held in Chateauroux and Orleans in central France”– ok, get it. He infiltrated some wanna-be’s who supposedly got some orders to attack a nightclub from someone “who had been to Syria”, shortly before they were all arrested. And this is supposed to describe the mentality of the Islamic State and be propaganda for the idea “no Islam to be seen here…”

  26. UNCLE VLADDI says

    May 8, 2016 at 8:34 pm

    Well, he’s French, isn’t he?

    The French in France have seen no islam there, either, despite having over 751 islamic sharia-controlled no-go areas (Zones Urbaines Sensitifs, or ZUS) and having their cars set on fire in every major French city every night for the last few decades.

    Really, who wouldn’t want to take a Frenchman at his word, after all that?

    😉

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