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Leftist “philosopher”: “There are among refugees also terrorists, rapists, criminals…but so what?”

May 24, 2016 3:53 pm By Robert Spencer

The Leftist crowd was angry not at his insouciance over civilizational suicide, but over his “xenophobic” characterizations. That there are “terrorists, rapists, criminals” among the refugees and migrants is an obvious and abundantly documented fact, but for all too many people nowadays, it is morally wrong to state inconvenient facts.

Slavoj Žižek

“Žižek at Left Forum: ‘Terrorists, rapists, & criminals among refugees, but who cares?,’” RT, May 23, 2016:

Slavoj Žižek, “the most dangerous philosopher in the West,” stirred the melting pot Sunday as the closing speaker at Left Forum 2016 in New York City, making controversial comments about the refugee crisis.

The Slovenian academic was heckled during his epic three-and-a-half hour session at the conference titled ‘Rage, Rebellion, Revolution: Organizing our power’ held at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice and streamed live throughout the weekend on RT.com.

Žižek was already labeled a “racist,”“antisemite,” and “misogynist” before he hit the stage, which perhaps is why he started his speech by saying, “If you want to start exchanging insults, I can be extremely brutal, I always win. But, let’s not do it today, maybe.”

That truce with his friend and critics on the left was temporary, after his subsequent words ignited a firestorm that continued to burn on social media Monday.

“The obvious threat, that there are among refugees also terrorists, rapists, criminals, I mean this in a totally neutral way, of course there are but so what?” he said, when discussing reasons behind the “catastrophe” in Europe.

While a more conservative or mainstream audience might have been shocked by his blasé “so what?” attitude towards what they perceive to be a global threat, his comments seemed to ‘trigger’ something else in this left-wing crowd, angry over what they interpreted as “xenophobic” characterizations….

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  1. cs says

    May 24, 2016 at 3:55 pm

    Zizek is an idiot, I used to like him, now I know better, utterly retarded.

    • Bamaguje says

      May 24, 2016 at 6:59 pm

      Actually I think I like him. For a Leftist he is unusually frank, and has done us the huge favour of exposing the politically incorrect thinking of the Left.
      Western Leftists cannot be oblivious that Muslims are violent, intolerant, misogynists, rapists and terrorists. Yet they (Leftist elite) insist on massively importing these Mohammedan savages into the West.
      It can only be because they share Zizek’s irresponsible “so what” mindset. Thankfully Zizek is from Slovenia, a responsibly led nation that doesn’t buy his bullshit.

      • Huck Folder says

        May 25, 2016 at 2:59 am

        …”What difference does it make…?”

      • Dean says

        May 25, 2016 at 3:42 am

        He has the attitude of a progressive with only one mistake. A total denial of reality is required for uncritical admiration.

  2. Michelle N says

    May 24, 2016 at 4:20 pm

    I say take him over to Germany, throw him into one of their little no-go zones and then when he begs and pleads not to leave him in that mess just look at him and say “Ok now, just remember there are rapist, terrorist, and criminals here but oh well. So what?!”

    • Champ says

      May 24, 2016 at 4:39 pm

      Exactly! …it’s time for this “Philosopher” to do some ‘field study’ work.

      • Mirren10 says

        May 24, 2016 at 5:21 pm

        Indeed. In Molenbeek, perhaps ? No, they’d probably welcome this revolting old pig with open arms.

        • Champ says

          May 25, 2016 at 3:12 am

          No doubt, Mirren10! 🙂

    • R Cole says

      May 24, 2016 at 4:56 pm

      He’s Slovenian – he knows the facts!!

      Just that the argument on the Left is these facts should not be mentioned.

      Where for everyone outside of the hardened Left – the fact that these migrants are rapists, terrorists and are bringing crime – contrary to his dismissive position – is the point of concern.

      ::

      His country Slovenia was one of the last counties to shut their borders to the migrant flow.

      Slovenia’s leaders were claiming the high moral ground – as compared to neighboring Hungary which put up a fence – but the migrants were only passing through that country. And seeing the sexual assaults on women and children in Austria and Germany, the terrorist attacks in Paris – and the sharp rise in crime where the migrants are not only attacking citizens [tour buses attacked and the luggage stolen] but military personnel stationed at the borders. Coming from Europe he is not in a position to deny this is a reality.

      But speaking in New York – where many have tuned in to the selective CNN coverage of the migrant crisis [ignoring the 20% Syrian, 80% male migrant figures] – he has broken the Left’s rules – by even suggesting there might be a problem.

      No safe space for the women sexually assaulted in Koln on New Year’s Eve – but the speaker has violated the Leftwing forum’s safe space – by mentioning such things are a reality.

      • mortimer says

        May 25, 2016 at 8:16 am

        Don’t underestimate Slovenians. They are masters of understanding the motives of great political power. Slovenia was once subjugated to the persecutory power of Islam. The Slovenians and their neighbors have an instinctual knowledge of jihad from a lengthy exposure to it. They however have been mainly too lazy to learn the jihad doctrine. Slavoj Žižek also needs to pick up some books and learn about the JIHAD DOCTRINE.

        Lazy Leftards and others almost never do the reading list. They just spout pre-digested party doctrines as if they had invented them themselves. Arrogant. Shallow.

  3. Champ says

    May 24, 2016 at 4:24 pm

    Oh, the big man has a big mouth! Boy I’d like to see this arrogant clown march on over to Syria and put his own ass on the frontline to share his ‘thoughts’ and to test his philosophy with islamic supremacists–and then watch his *philosophy* change so fast our heads will spin. He’ll either be murdered likety-split, or he’ll be begging for his life, and THEN get his throat slit. He’s just a nasty, overinflated blowhard with nothing to say. And I would advise that he grow a brain, but I think it’s too late given all the weed he’s probably smoked–whoa he looks like hell.

  4. TheOldOligarch says

    May 24, 2016 at 4:57 pm

    There is no way this flabby weakling would have lasted to his current age in any civilization but ours.

  5. Mirren10 says

    May 24, 2016 at 5:19 pm

    ”The Slovenian academic was heckled during his epic three-and-a-half hour session at the conference titled ‘Rage, Rebellion, Revolution: Organizing our power’ held at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice and streamed live throughout the weekend on RT.com.”

    I watched the short video published in RT.

    I didn’t hear any ‘heckling’, only a couple of mild questions. Neither did the audience seem to be horrified or shocked by what he was saying. Of course, this was only 2/3 minutes of what apparently went on for *three and a half hours*. (say what you like about Marxist morons, they have stamina !) Maybe it got more heated later on. 🙂

    But really, is anyone surprised ?

    This is absolutely gold standard leftist/Marxist rhetoric. It doesn’t matter a damn if the ‘refugees’ are murderers, rapists and thieves, they’re supposedly **poor**, so if anyone objects to them doing their thing, ”that says more about us Europeans than it does the refugees”.

    These is really moral turpitude on steroids.

  6. miriamrove says

    May 24, 2016 at 5:25 pm

    I have never heard of this idiot, now I will be following him. M

  7. Wellington says

    May 24, 2016 at 5:35 pm

    You can’t be a leftist and be possessed of common sense and moral intelligence. A dearth of these two intellectual capacities is a sine qua non for leftism status.

    • Dean says

      May 25, 2016 at 3:38 am

      A total, not partial, denial of reality is required to be part of their intellectual elite. All that matters is that the construct be totally free of any facts of reality.

  8. Angemon says

    May 24, 2016 at 5:39 pm

    “The obvious threat, that there are among refugees also terrorists, rapists, criminals, I mean this in a totally neutral way, of course there are but so what?” he said, when discussing reasons behind the “catastrophe” in Europe.

    How delightfully decadent. What else to expect from a Marxist?

  9. Paul says

    May 24, 2016 at 5:45 pm

    Leftist “philosopher”: “There are among refugees also terrorists,
    rapists, criminals…but so what?”
    When animals are faced with a threat they’ll defend themselves
    or try and flee. Some human ‘intellectuals’ are the only species
    I know of who welcome their oppressors with open arms “rapefugees
    welcome”, or relativise a very clear and obvious threat in such a
    ridiculous way. I much prefer supposedly ‘ignorant’ people any day!

    • Ted Tyler says

      May 26, 2016 at 6:47 am

      Leftist “philosopher”: “There are among refugees also terrorists,
      rapists, criminals…but so what?”

      That sounds like a statement (1) which will be followed by an explanation of the statement (2). We should not be taking a statement like that out of context because statements before and after the original statement might alter the meaning of the original statement.

      For example, Muhammad might say (1) “You should be nice and friendly to one another” which could be followed by something like: (2) “Unless you have rejected Allah and then we have to kill you”.

  10. FuturePresident says

    May 24, 2016 at 7:15 pm

    Look a leftist that just admitted the truth, that they know they’re endangering the country and they don’t care. That’s a rare sight.

  11. Guest says

    May 24, 2016 at 7:27 pm

    Ha ha ha, sir thank you for making the leftist look like uncaring idiots, and scaring the population to the right.

  12. Mo says

    May 24, 2016 at 7:51 pm

    Send all those criminal refugees to his house. Problem solved.

    • Champ says

      May 24, 2016 at 10:23 pm

      *Awesome* idea, Mo.

  13. garegin says

    May 24, 2016 at 7:54 pm

    Zizek came to our store in brooklyn. He had a laptop without a working trackpad. I only recognized him because of the name. He looks better on camera.

    • Mark Swan says

      May 25, 2016 at 6:59 am

      Good One

  14. Ross says

    May 24, 2016 at 8:41 pm

    If this man is any guide, left wing blinkered zealotry is the worst form of it.

  15. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    May 24, 2016 at 9:38 pm

    But so what? There is comfort in equating radical Islamist violent terrorists with rapists and criminals, if it were only that easy. A radical Islamist violent terrorist is an activated Moslem, and such a person is thousands of times more harmful to society than a rapist or other kind of criminal, mostly because they can propagate so quickly, they can increase and multiply as fast as the ideology spreads, crimes are individual, and have no such potential for propagation.

    It’s been said that the oil money played into the global jihad like the worst possible luck, as if a curse from God. It’s also been said that the ascendancy of leftists was similarly great luck and fortune for the activated Moslems. It’s hard to see how such a one-two punch can be beat, especially other new factors like modern air travel and the Internet. This is a worst case scenario for the long term prospects of freedom and human dignity.

    • ECAW says

      May 25, 2016 at 3:01 am

      But the internet is also a best case scenario for Islam collapsing under its own absurdities.

      It’s a toss up, don’t you think?

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        May 25, 2016 at 5:48 am

        No, I think the Internet is a net positive for the metastasis of Islam. It’s an ideology chock full of righteous indignation and promises of correction and revenge, a belief system that seems to never be self-checking. The Internet may be the worst possible technology combination with Islam. Many think that Islam’s meteoric rise of late indicates a hidden flaw that will cause it to collapse under its own weight in an explosion of self-awareness and self-criticism, Spengler, for instance. I wish that I could share this opinion, but cannot. Keep in mind that WMD is now a potential source of conflagration that could trigger well before any such self-correction, even if it were to happen as part of a projected natural process.

  16. SD says

    May 25, 2016 at 3:32 am

    That someone would stand up in public in front of other people supposedly intelligent people and make a comment in the sense of ”well so what if there are rapists and killers in terrorists amongst them so what?” shows exactly where the disconnect is between leftist thinking and the thinking of General Society including leftists that do not share extreme left views. Most people would say if the person is a rapist, killer or a terrorist we don’t want them, leftists would say well in essence they want to let everybody in not even just for asylum but in general they want no more borders, this is a major leftist political position so in their thinking it does not matter if a man who is a member of al-Qaeda can walk from Afghanistan to Berlin pasd every checkpoint even show his passport, it doesn’t matter if he can do this or not because well it’s one world and what if he blows himself up in Kabul or Berlin who cares it doesn’t make a difference 50 people died in Kabul or 50 people dying in Berlin. It doesn’t make a difference we must allow everybody to move around free this is a human right etcetera etcetera etcetera, in a perfect world you could make the argument that we no longer need borders because after all it’s a perfect world but we don’t live in a perfect world, we live in a world with Al Qaeda, head cutting ISIS, the Italian, Russian Mafia etc., the Mexican cartels etc. and all kinds of violent people and very dangerous people and we also live in a world where in some cases countries are intent on damaging the interest of other countries so for somebody to come in that situation and say well we don’t care if there are rapists and terrorists and other bad people amongst them because you don’t believe in borders to do this is in essence to commit suicide, someone who is not willing to defend themselves and their people is in essence committing suicide and I would say to these people if you don’t care about yourself if you don’t care about the future of your children and your grandchildren and your fellow citizens and your country, if you are suicidal then do us all a favor take yourself out quietly without harming anybody else but don’t drag us down with you.

  17. Dean says

    May 25, 2016 at 3:34 am

    This is perfect. He didn’t understand that fundamental progressivism is total denial of any inconvenient facts, not just some. Just like BLM proclaims, blacks can’t be racist, only whites and all of them for which they must all apologize for white privilege. It is an all or nothing construct of unreality. Trump could have said a few illegal immigrants are rapists and shouldn’t be here and he would still be condemned. All illegals are hard working undocumented citizens and no one, particularly white men, can say anything bad about this oppressed minority. I am slow but finally I get it. .

  18. Felix Quigley says

    May 25, 2016 at 3:39 am

    It does ot take long for the commie-bashers to get in on the act after Robert throwns out the bait

    Mirrren 10

    “I didn’t hear any ‘heckling’, only a couple of mild questions. Neither did the audience seem to be horrified or shocked by what he was saying. Of course, this was only 2/3 minutes of what apparently went on for *three and a half hours*. (say what you like about Marxist morons, they have stamina !) Maybe it got more heated later on.”

    So Mirren10 now has him as a “marxist” and even a “marxist moron” even though he ignores what Maria says above about this person.

    And the commie-baiting (which was such a central component in the Nazis and the Holocaust) carries on

    • Mirren10 says

      May 25, 2016 at 7:09 am

      ”And the commie-baiting (which was such a central component in the Nazis and the Holocaust) carries on”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#Cambodia_.28Democratic_Kampuchea.29

      By the way, I’m a her, not a him. 🙂

  19. Felix Quigley says

    May 25, 2016 at 3:48 am

    Mirren 10 again

    “This is absolutely gold standard leftist/Marxist rhetoric. It doesn’t matter a damn if the ‘refugees’ are murderers, rapists and thieves, they’re supposedly **poor**, so if anyone objects to them doing their thing, ”that says more about us Europeans than it does the refugees”.

    Here Mirren uses the term “leftist stroke Marxist”

    So he pulls in the name of Karl Marx and the ideas of Marx

    But this is all so ambiguous it is meaningless. But danger lies in such meaninglessness.

    Marx is not here to defend himself but I ask is this justified? Does Mirren 10 know history? Has he bothered to study history? Can he show this was position of Marx to Islam?

    I repeat this Marx hating and slander was central to the Nazis leading into the Holocaust.

    • Dean says

      May 25, 2016 at 4:06 am

      M 10, are you serious? I read and abandoned the distinctions almost 50 years ago. The struggle is between totalitarians and liberty. The popular dichotomy between right and left fails to see them as 2 rails on a track to total oppression of the individual. So what, it is reasonable and useful to lump communist/socialist/fascist/progressive/leftist together as kissing cousins with different means to the same end. Of what use in this battle are your considered and sincere distinctions and concern about any confusion?

      • Mirren10 says

        May 25, 2016 at 7:10 am

        ?

        Sorry, I don’t understand your point. It doesn’t seem to refer to what I said.

        • Dean says

          May 26, 2016 at 4:57 am

          You are playing a game of pointless debate over definition and origins while the savage is sneaking up behind you to cut your throat. The game leads to obfuscation of the real issues and solutions. There is liberty and everything else is anti-individual and anti-freedom.

        • Mirren10 says

          May 26, 2016 at 10:01 am

          I think you’re confusing *me* with ‘Felix Quigley’.

  20. Felix Quigley says

    May 25, 2016 at 4:13 am

    LEFT FORUM IS AN ORGANIZATION OF EXTREME MARXISM (TROTSKYISM) HATERS
    “Left Forum” is obviously a collection of extreme ANTI marxists and since Trotskyism IS Marxism today extreme anti Trotskyism

    One of the features of the life of Leon Trotsky as well described by a number of biographers, especially and above all by Joseph Nedava in his book “Trotsky” was that Trotsky always stood in defence of the Jewish people, always saw himself as a Jew, always opposed Antisemitism, and in the 1930s explained Fascism to organize the fight against it, and defended the Jews against Fascism.

    Since Left Forum has in its speakers Chomsky and Tariq Ali we can thereby assume that they are in reality a nest of Trotskyist haters.
    http://www.leftforum.org/

    Is that not logical?

    Are they of no importance then? No they are extremely dangerous.

    At present by minimising the Islamic Jihad in the world they are a grave threat to humanity and above all to Israel and to Jews everywhere.

    Chomsky is an extreme Jewish self hater. Tariq Ali aims as seen recently to equate Zionism with Nazism.

    All at this conference I can say are extremely against Marxism and against what Leon Trotsky stood for. Some American workers or youth attending this conference may come looking for a way forward but if so they are being misled by charlatans who ARE NOT MARXISTS BUT EXTREME HATERS OF MARXISM.

    Let us have the truth and not lies on Jihadwatch please.

  21. Singh the Singh says

    May 25, 2016 at 5:26 am

    Will this low life sing a different tune if his poor wife, daughter, sister, child or grandma are on the receiving end of a muslim rapist? Or will he show understanding as it was a ‘sexual emergency’? Perhaps he will be less flippant?

  22. Mirren10 says

    May 25, 2016 at 7:12 am

    ” … they are being misled by charlatans who ARE NOT MARXISTS BUT EXTREME HATERS OF MARXISM.

    Let us have the truth and not lies on Jihadwatch please.”

    Okey dokey. Truth below.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#Cambodia_.28Democratic_Kampuchea.

  23. Will Doohan says

    May 25, 2016 at 9:31 am

    His T-shirt should say “I choose not to think”.

  24. duh swami says

    May 25, 2016 at 9:49 am

    “Leftist philosopher’ is an oxymoron…mostly moron…Leftists have no philosophy, they only react to emotional stimulation which does not require philosophy to express itself…That’s why those on the left appear as ‘Cats on a Hot Tin Roof’…hopping around and whining a lot…The cat has enough sense to get off the roof,,,leftist philosophers not so much…

  25. Jaladhi says

    May 25, 2016 at 10:10 am

    By whose standards this idiot is dubbed a “philosopher”?? Or every leftist claims to be a philosopher – all those real philosophers of the past must be turning over in their graves!1

  26. KrazyKafir says

    May 25, 2016 at 2:57 pm

    Also among the refugees are a majority of people who were raised in a vile and despicable culture where Sharia Law is favored over human rights.

  27. Felix Quigley says

    May 26, 2016 at 3:28 am

    Mirren 10

    If you are gpoing to consult shit then you are going to have shit and the “Black Book of Communism” is shit

    I quote from your link

    “The Black Book of Communism, a set of academic essays on mass killings under Communist regimes, details “‘crimes, terror, and repression’ from Russia in 1917 to Afghanistan in 1989″.[40][not in citation given][41] Courtois claims an association between communism and criminality—”Communist regimes … turned mass crime into a full-blown system of government”[42]—and says that this criminality lies at the level of ideology rather than state practice.[43]”

    I see how you work and quoting from that shows me you are in the same camp as the Nazis who led the way to the Holocaust in the 1930

    • ECAW says

      May 26, 2016 at 4:27 am

      Personally, I don’t think Mirren10 is at all in the same camp as the Nazis who led the way to the holocaust, in fact just the opposite. I think you need further explication to make your case.

      Now if you had said that Muslims who take Mohammed seriously are in the same camp as Nazis I couldn’t disagree.

    • Dean says

      May 26, 2016 at 4:50 am

      All totalitarian ideologies are based on violence against individual sovereignty. both left and right. Those that seek power over individuals by state license make easy allies with those that violate the same rights without license. Property is simply the product of man’s mind and any system that claims ownership of it over those that produce it and earn it must do so through force., Collectivists and Fascists may argue good intentions and cooperation but for anyone who doesn’t agree and submit the gun is quickly displayed. Thus Sander’s supporters and Trump’s opposition readily resort to violence because there is a thin line to cross when domination over the individual’s property rights is intended and his self-ownership is his primary right, thus life, liberty etc.. Every social and economic construct or theory that separates property from its producers on any level is delusional The slightest interference between the producer and freedom of association with consumers involves a forceful invasion of the rights of both parties. ..

    • Mirren10 says

      May 26, 2016 at 10:10 am

      ”If you are gpoing to consult shit then you are going to have shit and the “Black Book of Communism” is shit.”

      I see.

      So, Lenin didn’t have anyone murdered, Stalin didn’t have anyone murdered, Mao Tse Tung didn’t have anyone murdered, Pol Pot didn’t have anyone murdered. Is that what you’re telling us ?

  28. Felix Quigley says

    May 27, 2016 at 4:52 am

    To Mirren 10 and Dean

    You see how the discussion has shifted. I question whether this Left Forun crowd are Marxist in fact I think they are ignorant totally about Marx and are into the bargain antisemitic plus much else…and that is just a Surface and quick impression

    You are now attacking the very concept of communism/socialism

    Bu without carrying on ad infinitum you have inadvertently made my point. You run all these together from Lenin to Pol Pot. By the way Pol Pot represented a branch of stalinism.

    That is exactly the method of these commie-bashers of today. Spencer is ONE of these today and consistently so.

    The roots of this lie inside of Mein Kamph and Hitler, and his anti-bolshevism is what you too express.

    Expressed very widely by Robert Spencer and by all of Jihadwatch is this hatred of Bolshevism which also was what brought the Catholic Church into Alliance with the Nazis see: “Antisemitism, Christian Ambivalence and the Holocaust” edited by Kevin P. Spicer, published 2007 by Indiana University Press

    In a number of essays intis book it is made clear that Fascism was not prepared to have any competitors and it saw the Catholic Church, indeed Churches, as one such serious competitor.

    But what brought them together and sealed the fate of the Jews was their hatred of Bolshevism WHICH YOU TOO ARE EXPRESSING

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