What could possibly go wrong? Obama assures us his nuke deal with Iran will bring peace in our time, and he couldn’t possibly be misleading us, could he?
“Former Israeli, Saudi Arabian officials talk Iran nuclear threat at DC event,” Jerusalem Post, May 7, 2016 (thanks to Lookmann):
The old adage proclaiming that the “enemy of my enemy is my friend” was on full display Thursday evening when a retired IDF general sat down with the former intelligence chief of Saudi Arabia to discuss the current tumult facing the Middle East, according to CNN.
Maj. Gen. Yaakov Amidror (res.) along with Prince Turki al-Faisal spoke at the The Washington Institute for Near East Policy in the US capital, where the two discussed a number of security topics including the Iranian nuclear threat and America’s varying role in the region.
“We are both exes,” Faisal said, reminding the audience that the two were private citizens and no longer represented their respective governments.
The most pressing issue facing the two historic adversaries presently is arguably Iran, which both countries believe aims to develop nuclear weapons. According to foreign media reports, Israel and Saudi Arabia have quietly been cooperating with one another for “years” among shared security concerns, despite the Islamic kingdom’s refusal to acknowledge the existence of the Jewish state.
During their discussion, Faisal said that “all options” would be available to the Saudi regime concerning Iranian nuclear proliferation, including the its own “acquisition [of] nuclear weapons… to face whatever eventuality might come from Iran.”
Like Saudi Arabia, Amidror noted that Israel would also meet the threat if Iran decided to weaponize its nuclear technology.
“In principle, the Iranians can go nuclear and from the Israeli point of view, this is a threat to existence,” Amidror said. “We will not let this happen.”…

Eur says
In Spain wey say ” tiene más peligro que un mono con dos pistolas ” more dangerous than a monkey with two guns. Islam is the monkey.
خَليفة says
¡Exactamente!
mortimer says
Islam forbids the use of reason to judge Allah’s commands.
But here it is, Muslims: Allah commanded Muslims to fight the kafirs until victory. If Allah is all-knowing he knew when he made that command that some day there would be nuclear weapons. Since Allah foresaw nuclear weapons, he commanded Muslims to start a nuclear war in which all of humanity would be destroyed. Conclusions: Allah must be insane to order the destruction of the earth. Muslims would have to be insane to destroy the earth. Therefore, if Allah is insane, we should not listen to him.
Jay Boo says
Not insane
Allah is merely a Freak Show — Hoax
BC says
Allah aka ‘god’ has destroyed ‘humanity several times when he got ‘annoyed’ with their lack of ‘respect for ‘him’
If you believe the myths that is
SD says
allah is the devil as only he would rejoice in seeing raping, enslaving, murdering, terrorism, genocide etc.
Muslims worship the devil. Muhammad himself removed some verses because the devil fooled him, well I say if he fooled him once and twice then maybe he fooled him three times etc etc, that whole ideology became suspect the moment he admitted the devil fooled him into putting verses into the quran. Only a very evil god would tell his followers its ok to rape, kill and enslave and put forward a false prophet as leader and role model to teach this ideology.
خَليفة says
Allah is Satan, and Mohammed is Satan’s apostle.
Don McKellar says
The catastrophic damage that Barry bin Obama has done in office both at home and abroad especially, will take decades to recover from — if at all. He is a model of Islam.
Don McKellar says
I don’t think that there could be a stupider reaction than for Saudi Arabia to buy nukes/develop nukes just because Iran gets nukes. After all, it’s not like Iran’s mad mullahs, being the good moslems that they are, will EVER nuke Saudi Arabia with Mecca and Medina there. They’ll never be able to their hajj! It doesn’t make any sense based on moslem logic. No, Saudi Arabia will only use it as an excuse to get nuclear weapons. Not based on any credible threat.
Angemon says
Don McKellar posted:
“It doesn’t make any sense based on moslem logic.”
Wouldn’t muslim logic dictate that allah would protect the two cities? Or rebuild them?
RonaldB says
Some branches of Islam look down on all sacred property, including the cities of Mecca and Medina.
Apparently, Iran has declared the haj off-limits for its citizens.
http://shoebat.com/2015/04/14/iran-declares-a-war-on-mecca-by-banning-shiites-to-do-pilgrims-to-the-holiest-sites-in-islam/
I would not develop my optimism based on any assumption of Muslim rationality. On the other hand, the princes of Saudi Arabia are pretty determined to keep their silver Cadillacs and their air-conditioned tents in the desert, so when they’re out of the glare of publicity, they show some cooperation with Israel.
I’m sure Israel knows enough to treat this as a hudna, or temporary truce, rather than as a peace, and to not jump in deeper than they can pull out. The Saudis are not to be trusted, but they can be worked with.
Westman says
I think you’re right. Without the “black stone” there is no Kaaba. The Iranians want control of Mecca but cannot afford to destroy the Kaaba as that would end validity for the Hajj. If they made a move to take over Mecca it would be by more conventional means.
Even though the Saudis have the most income, the Pakis already have the “Islam Bomb” so the Iranians, a seriously viable enemy, getting a bomb would only provide an additional excuse to get one. Keeping good oil/petro-dollar relations with the US in exchange for protection is the only reason a bomb was never pursued by SA.
What would happen if the Kaaba stone was vaporized? With one “Pillar Of Islam” gone, would Islam falter?
Steve Kristmann says
“What would happen if the Kaaba stone was vaporized? With one “Pillar Of Islam” gone, would Islam falter?”
Matt Bracken addresses that question through this essay:
How Islam—and the ever-present threat it poses to humanity—could be brought to an end in one, simple step
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/023326.html
“Another fundamental difference today from prior centuries is that millions of people understand that Islam has another tremendous weakness, another glass jaw, and that is their worship of the black moon rock in Mecca as Islam’s literal god-head. This black rock enshrined in the corner of the Kaaba is essential to Islam in a way that nothing in Judaism or Christianity is. The Cross lives in the hearts of Christians, and Christianity would not be destroyed if Jerusalem or Rome were destroyed. But that physical black rock in Mecca is the “hard drive” of Islam. Muslims believe that it contains all of the sins of all of the observant followers of the Prophet since the time of Mohammed, as sort of an Islamic Doomsday Book. Two of the Five Pillars of Islam involve the physical worship of that black moon rock. One is the Hajj to Mecca where pilgrims walk in a circle around the rock, and the other is the five-time daily prayer performed in its direction. (The other three pillars are ephemeral: the Shahada conversion prayer, the tithe, and observing Ramadan.) A religion that is impervious to change or self-examination (which James P says are strengths) cannot suddenly be reduced to The Three Pillars of Islam after 1,400 unbroken years as the Five Pillars of Islam.”
Please take time to read the entire essay, it’s definitely worth the time!
Yours In islamless Liberty!
NorthGunner III
Jack Diamond says
The idea of Iran destroying Saudi Arabia is not fanciful. The Saudis recently beheaded a Shi’a ayatollah (there are only 47 of them). Al-Nimr was executed for leading a Shiite uprising within the Kingdom.
Iran’s Khamenei said “divine revenge” would visit the Saudis. Quote: “I have no doubt that this pure blood will stain the collar of the House of Saud and wipe them from the pages of history.”
There were riots in Shiite parts of Saudi Arabia and a Saudi embassy was set on fire in Iran. An Iranian video appeared showing animated missiles taking out Saudi oil fields. There has been talk of Karbala replacing Mecca as the holiest site. All of which might indicate that Iran going after Saudi Arabia, both over hegemony in the region and as payback for years of persecution and destruction of their holy places, seems like a real possibility. Certainly does to the Saudis, even to the point of “cooperating” with Israel.
There are Islamic prophecies about the destruction of Mecca so it would come as a total surprise to Muslims or necessarily be the coup de grace for Islam.
Jack Diamond says
it would not come as a total surprise to Muslims.
Jack Diamond says
“We are both exes,” Faisal said. Prince Turki was the “ex” head of Saudi Secret Services, up until a few days before…9/11. Prince Turki’s Intelligence operation facilitated massive aid to both the Taliban and the Bin Laden network– Bin Laden’s access to charities, foundations, funding–with the understanding al Qaeda attacks them (infidels) and not us (Saudis). That’s what Prince Turki is “ex” of.
silvergreycat says
see also (as a starting point)… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turki_bin_Faisal_Al_Saud#Director_of_Saudi_Arabia_General_Intelligence_Directorate
Andy says
Mecca or Medina don’t have to be Nuked by Iran to make Saudi Kings surrender to Tehran. The USA didn’t have to nuke Tokyo, the capital of Japan in order to get Japan to surrender to the USA. It’s the same principal when it comes to Saudi Arabian WAHABIS to surrender to SHIA Islam of the Iranian Mullas. The next nuke war WW# has been PREDICTED in the Holy Scriptures of the Bible from the time of King David . That’s from 3000 yrs ago. Here it is: Psalm 2: 1 : Why do the heathen (i.e. todays United Nations) rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? 2The kings (i.e. leaders who are against Israel) of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying, 3Let us break their (i.e. Israel’s) bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. 4He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
Angemon says
Congratulations, Prince Turki, you’re smarter than the Obama administration. And than a 5th-grader. Who is also smarter than the Obama administration.
Israelis and Saudis on the same wavelength? It’s either a conspiracy or the end of the world…
Godwin says
No, it is only the end of the ME ( not the world ) when they started to nuke each other over there. That also means the end of the religion of peace.
Jay Boo says
They will need precise guidance systems.
Oterwise”
1 — Iran will blow up Saudis vast expanses of uninhabited barren desert.
2 — The Saudis will retaliate and blow up Iran’s uninhabited barren mountains.
خَليفة says
So let me get this straight – whether it’s Sunni or Shia, Islam blows
Itself up in a grand act of peace.
Westman says
LOL!
linnte says
Hahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! True! Will someone lend them a GPS please????
linnte says
So what DOES this mean? It seems like Angemon said.
Paul says
Let’s just hope that Saudi Arabia gets nuked very soon.
I for one will punch the air in delight. The birthplace of
Muhammadanism, Wahabism and a seemingly endless
supply of oil, thereby ensuring the ongoing subversion
of normality and corruption throughout the world.
To Saudi apostates and Christian converts there I say get
the hell out of there as soon as you can. The fanatics
in Iran will accomplish God’s will by destroying that hellhole
as soon as they get the chance.
Sog says
Nukes can end oil, but not in the way you think. About 3 M&M sized quantities of Actinide, like Thorium or Uranium can be used to supply all the electricity one American uses in a LIFETIME. The waste would
With applicable technologies, like IFRs or LFTRs, we could render oil cheap, and far less useful than it is today.
Westman says
It’s unfortunate the US dumped the Thorium cycle development reactor project. It could have reduced the future radioactive waste problem. Maybe this will be pursued when the true cost of oil is realized.
mortimer says
The thorium cycle can be brought on line in months.
silvergreycat says
see also… http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/current-and-future-generation/thorium.aspx
abad says
Well if Iran and Saudi Arabia use their nukes on each other – they will be doing the world a tremendous service.
Andy says
Very right! The ALL-knowing God of the Bible said the foll. about the descendants of ISHMAEL. King James Version
Genesis 16:12: And he (ISHMAEL) will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
mortimer says
It sounds like Saudi Arabia has authorized Israel to destroy the mullahocracy’s nuclear program so they will not have to do it themselves.
David, Thailand says
Blimey, these people talk as though we should be surprised.
I suppose next we’ll discover that the Saudis financed Pakistan’s nuclear programme on the understanding that Pakistan would sell nukes to Saudi if so requested at a later time.
As Regan said, a weak generation is all it takes to devolve from decades of progress. He was referring to us, people who would elect a Muslim to the White House, a childless Communist as Chancellor, a French Socialist and a British fool.
Lord Wrath says
Saudi Arabia does not need to develop nukes… All they have to do is use their air force to fly cover for the Israelis who will be carrying the nuclear payload!!!
Andy says
The Almighty creator God of the universe runs the universe in extremely precise order. When the right time arrives the “fireworks” will commence…all under the AUTHORITY and POWER of the Almighty God of the Holy Tanach and the Holy Bible. Not one “cracker” will misfire or deviate from the set-course. God’s Holy angels will supervise every tiny detail. Isaiah 46:10 King James Version (KJV)
10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
citycat says
Saudi Arabia and Israel? Gosh
and America not in the war?
Dearie me, i hope those prophecies are not coming true.
Store the beans.
Baucent says
The behind the scenes talking that may be going on with Israel and Saudi Arabia is not as strange as it might sound. America and Britain once had an ally in Soviet Russia, to defeat Germany in WW2. Was there any trust between them? No, it was a marriage of convenience to get a job done; defeating Hitler.
Likewise Israel and Saudi have a common enemy in Iran and it is quite possible that there is already intelligence sharing about Iranian activities.
Florida Jim says
The blunders by Obama never end. He is in our lives forever just like Biden,Reid, Schumer, Clinton and Pelosi to torment us forever.
DockyWocky says
I bet if Syedna Muffadal Saifuddin wouldn’t be so hot to enjoy female genital mutilation, if the females got together, grabbed his bony ash, and decided to whack off his holy member in return.
All these bloodthirsty moslem ashholes are such hypocrites, besides being such braggarts and girly boys.
خَليفة says
Muslims are “braggarts and girlie boys” – Hahahaha
Keys says
Saudi Arabia vs. Iran.
I wonder what advice Obama influencer, Valerie Jarrett (sympathy with Iran), and Huma Abedin (sympathy with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia), Hillary’s influencer, would give their bosses.
SD says
saudi arabia is the root of all evil in islam. They are isis long before isis even dreamt of existing and they are it without shame or apology, they foster, support, finance and export backward islam to the whole world. The moment saudi representatives started talking about getting nukes western leaders should have publicly admonished them, the fact that this never happened means that western leaders in places like Washington, London, Paris and Brussels aproove of this. No muslim country should be allowed to have nukes including pakistan.
خَليفة says
I go so far as to say no country should be allowed to be a Muslim country. The Shari has no place in the modern world.
Kepha says
We shouldn’t be surprised by nuclear proliferation anywhere. It is, after all, 1940’s technology, and we’re living in the 21st century.
UNCLE VLADDI says
IF GIVING NUKES AND $150. BILLION TO OUR DECLARED ENEMY ISN’T “AIDING AND ABETTING” THEN NOTHING AT ALL QUALIFIES AS “TREASON” ANY MORE!
Manual Paleologos says
It’s not surprising. The Saudis will really have no choice.
Zerobama’s military/political policies have paved the way to nuclear proliferation and probably nuclear war in our lifetime. When Ukraine seceded from the Soviet Union, we were instrumental in pressuring them to turn over their large store of nuclear weapons to Russia. Then Zerobama left them to twist in the wind. Our military actions in Iraq in response to Saddam’s possible WMDs persuaded Qaddaffi to turn his nascent nuclear program over to the US, down to the notes. He concluded that nuclear weapons increased, rather than reduced his risks.
Meanwhile NORK, with a couple of half arsed nuclear weapons is allowed to run rampant. Zerobama’s policy is essentially guaranteeing a nuclear weapon to Iran, while they trumpet their intent to annihilate Israel. It has become blindingly apparent that, if your country can possibly acquire nukes, it must do so. Given their neighbor, the Saudis would be fools to not go nuclear.
And one day, some half crazed, tinpot dictator or mullah will push the boundary too far.