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Russia: Imam gets three years prison, had weapons and explosives in mosque

May 22, 2016 10:05 am By Robert Spencer

An imam was arrested with “700 grams of TNT, fragmentation grenade f-1, unified fuse for grenades, two TT pistols, a revolver without license plates and three bullets”? “Also in the prayer room of the mosque Belgorod on 12 December had discovered “literature with extremist content”? Doesn’t the Imam Ismailov Faizulla know that Islam teaches peace and that true Islam has nothing, nothing whatsoever, to do with violence? Will Barack Obama and John Kerry and Pope Francis and David Cameron travel to Russia to teach this poor misguided cleric the true, peaceful Islam? They won’t? Why not? And why don’t we see the apologists for Islam in the West — John Esposito, Karen Armstrong, Reza Aslan, Tariq Ramadan, etc. — making this trip themselves? Why is the peaceful Islam that is so obvious to them so hard for them to communicate to Muslims who have somehow misunderstood their religion as to think it exhorts them to commit acts of violence?

Imam Ismailov Faizulla

“Belgorod Imam, who found the grenade, TNT and pistols, sentenced to three years in prison,” Last News From Russia, May 10, 2016 (thanks to Sharia Unveiled; English as in the original):

On Tuesday, the Oktyabrsky district court of Belgorod has sentenced the Imam Ismailov Faizulla, who was found guilty of illegal turnover of weapons and explosives.

According to the decision of the Russian Themis Ismailov will be imprisoned for three years. To serve his sentence he will be in the correctional colony of General regime, reports «Interfax». The sentence will be considered from the moment of detention of the defendant on 13 December 2015.

The defense has said they are surprised with the decision of the court. «We were confident that the verdict will be acquittal. The court was not presented proofs of fault of my client, was not asked any questions. We are outraged by this verdict and will, of course, it appeal,» — said the lawyer Ismailov Andrey Sotnikov.

He added that the defense will claim vindication of faisulla Ismayilova at all charges.

Recall, Belgorod Imam of the mosque and a member of the Muslim religious organizations «Peace and creation» Faizulla Ismailov was detained at the end of last year. Then 34-year-old priest during a search found more than 700 grams of TNT, fragmentation grenade f-1, unified fuse for grenades, two TT pistols, a revolver without license plates and three bullets. Also in the prayer room of the mosque Belgorod on 12 December had discovered «literature with extremist content».

Ismailov was charged with part 1 article 222 and part 1 of article 222-a comment of the criminal code («Illegal possession of weapons and explosives substances»). In addition, he was accused of article 20.29 of the administrative code (Distribution of extremist materials»).

Last Friday, the court heard the last word of the spiritual leader of Muslims. About whether Ismailov admitted his guilt, as well as other details were reported because of the closed regime of the trial.

At the last hearing were announced only introductory and operative part of the judgment.

Earlier, in February 2016, the Oktyabrsky district court of Belgorod recognized Ismayilova guilty in distribution of extremist materials and fined 4.5 thousand rubles.

The court found that the illegal literature were stored in the Cabinet the Imam, in the closet, available to any parishioner. All were seized eight books included in the Federal list of extremist materials. One of parishioners told law enforcement officials that he took banned books to read….

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  1. vivienne Havalant-leijonhufvud says

    May 22, 2016 at 10:10 am

    Thank goodness Russia sees the writing on the wall for sure no one else does. Next the death penalty will be reinstated as in Israel for terrorists. Imams with guns are terrorists as far as I am concerned.

    • Dom1 says

      May 22, 2016 at 10:19 am

      3 years is very lenient for this type of offence. The intent was and could have been the death of a lot of people. Has Russian gone soft as well???

      • Custos Custodum says

        May 22, 2016 at 4:14 pm

        This sentence may reflect the defendant’s cooperative attitude after arrest. If so, his life could become more complicated after release.

      • DFD says

        May 22, 2016 at 6:54 pm

        I wondered about that too

      • Peggy says

        May 24, 2016 at 1:49 am

        If you call this soft then what do you call western courts?
        He had the weapons there but he didn’t use them. Yes, we can say that he intended them to go to terrorists but he, himself could only be charged with possession. Intent is a very hard thing to prove.
        Nevertheless, three years in a Russian prison without Halal food and in general population won’t be easy for him. He will be lucky to come out of it alive.

        • Angemon says

          May 24, 2016 at 10:51 am

          Peggy posted:

          “If you call this soft then what do you call western courts?”

          That depends on whether you have actual data pertaining ALL convictions of islamic-related criminals or you’re just cherry picking one example and try to pass it as ALL of the Western courts.

      • Lynette says

        May 27, 2016 at 11:38 pm

        I feel that ALL bearers of authority of mosques that hide arms etc should be found guilty, sentenced with no parole, (You may ask why I say ALL? And the answer is ALL would have known by association with the mosque and hierarchy as well as helping to store and hide arms etc ) AND the actual mosque dismantled or given to some legal charity group/s or other worthwhile causes free of charges plus all contents such as carpets, furniture etc to be used for a community betterment programme.

  2. Angemon says

    May 22, 2016 at 10:12 am

    Hmmm, how many weapons and bombs would fit in this mosque?…

    https://www.rt.com/news/316327-moscow-mosque-largest-europe/

  3. WorkingClassPost says

    May 22, 2016 at 10:53 am

    They had intelligence and acted.

    We would be outraged by such a search of a mosk.

    I know which makes sense to me.

  4. Don McKellar says

    May 22, 2016 at 10:58 am

    It is frightening to think how many mosques in Europe and North America could have a cache of weapons. We see these stories all the time. It could only be the tip of the iceberg.

    • Fatetrader says

      May 22, 2016 at 1:04 pm

      Most of them, and refusal to act by the authorities is simply infuriating…

      • Bob says

        May 23, 2016 at 10:23 am

        Plus, Fatetrader, their obligatory hate-preacher, who can’t, courtesy of the EUHRC, be deported!

    • Peggy says

      May 24, 2016 at 11:25 am

      And it’s frightening that no imam has actually been convicted and imprisoned for this in western courts.
      So like I said before, if this is soft what would we call western courts for doing nothing.

      • Angemon says

        May 24, 2016 at 2:15 pm

        Peggy posted:

        “And it’s frightening that no imam has actually been convicted and imprisoned for this in western courts.”

        Are you certain of it?

        • Peggy says

          May 24, 2016 at 10:43 pm

          Well what do you say? Have there been any?

        • Angemon says

          May 25, 2016 at 6:45 am

          You wrote:

          “no imam has actually been convicted and imprisoned for this in western courts”

          Burden of proof is on you.

      • Mirren10 says

        May 25, 2016 at 7:27 am

        Peggy, Angemon is absolutely right.

        If you are going to make such assertions, the burden of proof *is* on you. And you have provided none.

        ”What you read into my posts is up to you but just remember that you might be the only one reading that into my post.”

        No, Angemon isn’t the only one.

        ”I see that I don’t have to clarify that to anyone else.”

        Yes, you do. The burden of proof is on the one making the assertion.

        ” You are just looking for ways to make something our of nothing.”

        You should be grateful to Angemon for pointing out to you how to conduct a discussion.

        ” It seems you can’t go without being a smartarse”

        Requiring you to provide evidence for your assertion isn’t being a ‘smartarse’. Those who make assertions, fail to provide evidence for them, and then play the victim when called on it are typical of leftists, mohammedans, and other fools.

      • gravenimage says

        May 25, 2016 at 8:04 pm

        Peggy wrote:

        And it’s frightening that no imam has actually been convicted and imprisoned for this in western courts.
        …………………………

        What about Florida Imam Abu Taubah? This was not the only charge against him, but it was certainly part of it:

        “Florida: Muslims bringing weapons and ammunition to mosque”

        https://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2012/11/23/florida-muslims-bringing-weapons-and-ammunition-to-mosque/

    • gravenimage says

      May 25, 2016 at 7:43 pm

      Here were weapons found in Mosques in France:

      “France close down 3 mosques – 334 war grade weapons found – 223 arrests”

      http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.2241/france-close-down-3-mosques-334-war-grade-weapons-found-223-arrests.html

      • Peggy says

        May 26, 2016 at 12:26 am

        No mention of what happened to the Imam. Not arresting him?

  5. Ginger says

    May 22, 2016 at 11:03 am

    Only the Russians have the cojones to expose what many Europeans suspect. The European governments are terrified of appearing ‘Islamophobic’.

  6. linnte says

    May 22, 2016 at 12:36 pm

    Doesn’t the article say the Imam was turning in the items to authorities? Like he had found them and turned them in? I guess I am not understanding. So they arrested him for being honest? Were these things HIS? or were they someone else’s?

    • gravenimage says

      May 25, 2016 at 8:05 pm

      Yes–this is unclear, linnte.

  7. Catalysator says

    May 22, 2016 at 5:18 pm

    This example vividly shows that in Putin’s Russia there is no free exercise of religion.
    (If the reader finds sarc, he may keep it.)

  8. DockyWocky says

    May 23, 2016 at 11:29 am

    I am surprised with the leniency of this Russian court.

    They must be planning to see him commit suicide in the joint.

    • Peggy says

      May 25, 2016 at 5:15 pm

      If he doesn’t do that due to the conditions he is about to face then I feel someone will help him do that.
      Three years is a long sentence when you are in a Russian prison.

  9. John Stephens says

    May 23, 2016 at 4:27 pm

    Our people need a significant, legal presence on the world stage. We cannot rely solely on the political route, nor can we get angry, and go down the violent revolutionary path. Help us fund a bricks and mortar Embassy. We already have an Ambassador.

    http://westernrennaissanc.wix.com/westernrenaissance

  10. Peggy says

    May 24, 2016 at 11:23 am

    Angemon says

    May 24, 2016 at 10:51 am

    Peggy posted:

    “If you call this soft then what do you call western courts?”

    That depends on whether you have actual data pertaining ALL convictions of islamic-related criminals or you’re just cherry picking one example and try to pass it as ALL of the Western courts.
    ====================
    We are discussing an imam put in prison for having weapons in the mosque.
    So do tell, how many imams in western countries have been convicted and imprisoned for having weapons in their mosques?
    Don’t divert from the subject like you tried to do here and the subject being imam getting a prison sentence for having weapons in the mosque not any other Muslim crime.

    • Angemon says

      May 24, 2016 at 2:03 pm

      Peggy posted:

      “We are discussing an imam put in prison for having weapons in the mosque.”

      That was the discussion until you rushed out a sad false equivalence about Western courts when someone made a passing criticism of it.

      “So do tell, how many imams in western countries have been convicted and imprisoned for having weapons in their mosques?”

      I don’t know. Do you have numbers on that?

      “Don’t divert from the subject like you tried to do here ”

      Let’s see if I can follow your “logic”: you randomly bringing up Western courts is not diverting from the issue while me asking you about what you wrote is. Funny how that works…

      “and the subject being imam getting a prison sentence for having weapons in the mosque not any other Muslim crime.”

      Again: you changed the issue to the alleged “softness” of Western courts. I asked you to back what you said. Why are you trying to spin it as if I’m the one at fault here?

      Now, please, answer my question instead of going on a long, drawn-out, irrelevant tangent.

      • Peggy says

        May 24, 2016 at 10:48 pm

        As I stated, I was only referring to the crime of stashing weapons in the mosques. I was NOT talking about any other Muslim crime.
        —–
        “So do tell, how many imams in western countries have been convicted and imprisoned for having weapons in their mosques?”

        I don’t know. Do you have numbers on that?
        ======
        Why did you refer to that if you didn’t have any information on it.
        I haven’t heard of any imams being convicted for that so that is why I said it. If you want to counter that somehow then you are the one who should provide some evidence.
        Obviously you can’t prove there hasn’t been any convicted if there is no information on it but you should be able to prove there have.

        • Angemon says

          May 25, 2016 at 6:59 am

          Peggy posted:

          “As I stated, I was only referring to the crime of stashing weapons in the mosques. I was NOT talking about any other Muslim crime.”

          That makes even less sense. You want to talk about Western courts in general allegedly being “soft” on muslims with anecdotal data based on one specific crime alone?

          “Why did you refer to that if you didn’t have any information on it.”

          See above. You made a claim about Western courts in general. I rightfully called you out on that.

          “I haven’t heard of any imams being convicted for that so that is why I said it. ”

          No, you stated that no iman had been convicted and imprisoned for that in Western courts. Back-pedal much?

          “If you want to counter that somehow then you are the one who should provide some evidence.”

          Again, that’s not how thing work. You made the claim, burden of proof is on you.

          “Obviously you can’t prove there hasn’t been any convicted if there is no information on it”

          Huh, you realize that’s running counter to the point you’re trying to make, right?

          “but you should be able to prove there have.”

          Again: burden of proof is on you. You wrote “no imam has actually been convicted and imprisoned for this in western courts“. Prove it.

          Anyway, I can only imagine your reaction were this a Western court and I brought up Russian courts by comparison. Oh, the “Russophobia”! “Angemon hates Russia and he’s always bringing it up!”. Apparently, that “no compare Russia plz comrade” logic of yours only applies when Russia looks bad and is tossed out the window when Russia can be made to look good.

          P.S.: The answer to Dom1’s statement about Russia being “soft” would be found on the maximum possible penalty the imam was facing. If it is 3 years then he received the harshest sentence possible.

  11. Peggy says

    May 25, 2016 at 7:14 am

    Angemon says

    May 25, 2016 at 6:59 am

    Peggy posted:

    “As I stated, I was only referring to the crime of stashing weapons in the mosques. I was NOT talking about any other Muslim crime.”

    That makes even less sense. You want to talk about Western courts in general allegedly being “soft” on muslims with anecdotal data based on one specific crime alone?
    ===============================
    No, again, i was only referring to that one specific crime and what would happen in a western court FOR THAT ONE SPECIFIC CRIME.
    Now If I have to spell that out to you, I just did.
    What you read into my posts is up to you but just remember that you might be the only one reading that into my post.
    I see that I don’t have to clarify that to anyone else.
    You are just looking for ways to make something our of nothing. It seems you can’t go without being a smartarse.

    • Mirren10 says

      May 25, 2016 at 7:34 am

      ”You are just looking for ways to make something our of nothing. It seems you can’t go without being a smartarse.”

      Requiring you to provide evidence for your assertion isn’t being a ‘smartarse’. Those who make assertions, fail to provide evidence for them, and then play the victim when called on it are typical of leftists, mohammedans, and other disingenuous fools.

      As I said earlier, you should be grateful to Angemon for pointing this out to you.

      • Peggy says

        May 25, 2016 at 5:13 pm

        I wasn’t calling him a smartarse for asking for evidence. I was calling him that for insisting that I was talking about Muslims crimes in general when I was only talking about the crime that this article is about and pointing out that western courts are more lenient because I haven’t heard of any imam being jailed for the same thing.
        I really can’t understand why this is so difficult to grasp when I have said it in the simplest terms possible.

      • Peggy says

        May 25, 2016 at 7:15 pm

        I am happy to provide evidence if you can tell me how I can prove that I haven’t seen anything about an Imam being jailed for having weapons in his mosqaue before.

        Now I have explained that I only meant this particular crime but if you or Angemon cannot accept this explanation then I can’t do any more.
        So please explain how I can prove that I haven’t seen a western court jail an Imam for the same offence.
        I hope you are not likening me to a mohammedan by implying that I fall into that category.

        • Angemon says

          May 26, 2016 at 5:30 am

          Peggy posted:

          “I am happy to provide evidence if you can tell me how I can prove that I haven’t seen anything about an Imam being jailed for having weapons in his mosqaue before.”

          Terrible sleight-of-hand, Peggy – no one is asking you to prove that you “haven’t seen” news about an imam being arrested with weapons in his mosque. What you need to prove is your claim that “no imam has actually been convicted and imprisoned for this in western courts“. To do that you only have to search through ALL records of court cases in ALL Western courts as far as they are recorded.

          “Now I have explained that I only meant this particular crime ”

          Like I said from the onset, cherry picking one example and trying to pass it as ALL of the Western courts.

          “So please explain how I can prove that I haven’t seen a western court jail an Imam for the same offence.”

          See above – sleight-of-hand, etc.

          P.S.: You wrote:

          if this is soft what would we call western courts for doing nothing.

          and

          western courts are more lenient because I haven’t heard of any imam being jailed for the same thing.

          You realize that Western courts are far from doing nothing, right? They’ve sentenced mohammedans to far harsher sentences. Hence why I said, from the beginning: you need to have actual data pertaining to ALL convictions of islamic-related criminals if you want to make that assertion (that Western courts are lenient). That you go around saying “but I never saw an imam getting arrested for this in a Western court” (which may or not be true) changes nothing. You, from the start, made a baseless generalization about Western courts and tried to defend it by saying that I was not understanding what you wrote. Well, Peggy, my first reply to you was crystal clear:

          That depends on whether you have actual data pertaining ALL convictions of islamic-related criminals or you’re just cherry picking one example and try to pass it as ALL of the Western courts.

          Which was exactly what you were trying to do – cherry pick one example and generalize about ALL Western courts.

    • Angemon says

      May 26, 2016 at 5:14 am

      Peggy posted:

      “No, again, i was only referring to that one specific crime and what would happen in a western court FOR THAT ONE SPECIFIC CRIME.”

      Then you should specify you’re making a pointless comparison using one data point in one side and zero on the other. And it’s especially pointless when you have instances of Western courts sentencing devout mohammedans to harsher prison sentences – whatever generalization you’re trying to make based on one specific violation of the law (or lack thereof) is meaningless.

      “What you read into my posts is up to you but just remember that you might be the only one reading that into my post.”

      Huh, so what? Does that somehow exclude me from inquiring you about it?

      You were doing well when you stated that intent was hard to prove (and, BTW, a cursory google search tells me that possession of illegal firearms in Russia is punishable with a fine and up to 8 years in prison so he did got away with little more than a slap in the wrist), but you just had to rush out an anecdotal comparison. This despite your history of demonizing me for talking about Russia, even if only replying to someone else who mentioned it. Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to bully you out of comparing Russia and the West like you tried to do with me (“shut up”, “you’re in the minority”, “someone should put you into your place”, etc), I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy at play here. Carry on, comrade 🙂

      • Peggy says

        May 26, 2016 at 5:22 am

        Let’s clear this up once and for all. The article here was about an Imam being sentenced to three years in prison for having weapons etc in his mosque.
        What other crime would you expect me to mean when we are discussing this one?
        As for that comrade jab, well Russia is not a communist country. You must be thinking of USSR.

        If you think three years is lenient, what do you think this Imam would get in a western court? Let’s compare apples with apples.

        • Angemon says

          May 26, 2016 at 5:38 am

          Peggy posted:

          “What other crime would you expect me to mean when we are discussing this one?”

          Like I said, if you’re making generalizations about Western courts (which you are), all of them.

          “As for that comrade jab, well Russia is not a communist country. You must be thinking of USSR.”

          Right, they’re a cleptocracy run by a glorified thug – I think they’d be better off under Communism. ANyway, comrade Hypocrite, you made an unwarranted comparison about Russia and the West after, on previous topics, going out of your way, not to mention being very rude and thuggish towards me, to scold me for allegedly doing the same.

          “If you think three years is lenient, what do you think this Imam would get in a western court? Let’s compare apples with apples.”

          Except you’re NOT. You’re going “I don’t see any apples on the West, therefore there are no trees”:

          if this is soft what would we call western courts for doing nothing

          (Western courts are far from doing nothing, they’ve sentenced mohammedans to far harsher sentences)

          western courts are more lenient because I haven’t heard of any imam being jailed for the same thing.

          (“there are no trees because I don’t see any apples”)

        • Angemon says

          May 26, 2016 at 5:50 am

          P.S.: You realize that Western courts” aren’t a thing because each Western nation has its own set of laws, penalties and trial system, right?

  12. gravenimage says

    May 25, 2016 at 7:36 pm

    Russia: Imam gets three years prison, had weapons and explosives in mosque
    ……………………..

    It’s a start…

  13. Peggy says

    May 26, 2016 at 7:55 am

    Angemon, you are just not making any sense at all.
    I will leave you with your insanity.

    • Mirren10 says

      May 26, 2016 at 9:54 am

      ”Angemon, you are just not making any sense at all.
      I will leave you with your insanity.”

      This is what idiotic leftards say when worsted in an argument. 🙂

      • Peggy says

        May 26, 2016 at 5:11 pm

        Are you using your own rules to score this?
        Angemon, your mum’s on the sidelines cheering for you.

        • Angemon says

          May 28, 2016 at 7:08 am

          Peggy posted:

          “Are you using your own rules to score this?”

          Are there any official scoring rules?

          “Angemon, your mum’s on the sidelines cheering for you.”

          Oh, look, the person who said she was going to “leave me to my insanity” decided to come and bring my family into this. Not very mature or related to the point, but OK.

      • Peggy says

        May 26, 2016 at 5:32 pm

        Those who make assertions, fail to provide evidence for them, and then play the victim when called on it are typical of leftists, mohammedans, and other disingenuous fools.

        This is what idiotic leftards say when worsted in an argument
        ————————
        Ok, so you’ve made two statements which liken me to the very people I am opposed.
        So what exactly makes me like that?

        The fact that Agnemon injects himself into a reply to someone else and I don’t let him get away with assuming what I mean to say? Does he know my mind and what I think better than I do so then he can just say that I was talking about this or that when I explain more than once I was talking about the subject ONLY.
        So I should just let him go on and on saying whatever he wants without having a reply which of course he won’t accept but I have to accept his version of what I mean?
        What exactly made me like the people you tried to liken me to?

        • Angemon says

          May 28, 2016 at 7:07 am

          Peggy posted:

          “The fact that Agnemon injects himself into a reply to someone else”

          Again with that inane, nonsensical excuse? You’re posting in a PUBLIC FORUM. What you write here is for everyone else to see and everyone else can answer to it. In fact, YOU have, on several occasions, “injected” yourself in replies to someone else. Your problem is not about person A “injecting” themselves in a reply person B made to person C, your problem is that person A is Angemon (me).

          “I don’t let him get away with assuming what I mean to say?”

          Right, the problem here is not that you made a baseless assertion that “Western” courts were “soft” on islam, the problem is that I “assumed” that’s what you means:

          if this is soft what would we call western courts for doing nothing.

          (…)

          western courts are more lenient because I haven’t heard of any imam being jailed for the same thing.

          Clearly, no generalization in there, eh? And you, true to your hypocritical form, decided to compare Russia and the West AFTER, on several occasions, running like a rabid, thuggish dog for doing the same. Remember when you said I needed to “shut up”, that I was “in the minority” and that “someone should put me in my place”?

          “Does he know my mind and what I think better than I do so then he can just say that I was talking about this or that when I explain more than once I was talking about the subject ONLY.”

          Again, see above quotes – you made a generalization about ALL Western courts. That you try to say it was based on the number of people Western courts sentenced for one specific crime doesn’t make it any better.

          Also, I was quite clear from the get go – I made arrangements for the two possible scenarios:

          That depends on whether you have actual data pertaining ALL convictions of islamic-related criminals or you’re just cherry picking one example and try to pass it as ALL of the Western courts.

          “So I should just let him go on and on saying whatever he wants without having a reply which of course he won’t accept but I have to accept his version of what I mean?”

          Peggy, your latest “reply” to me was:

          Angemon, your mum’s on the sidelines cheering for you

          Is that supposed to explain your position? Is that supposed to be related to anything I wrote? Or is it just another of the petty personal attacks you invariably resort to?

        • Angemon says

          May 28, 2016 at 7:09 am

          “What exactly made me like the people you tried to liken me to?”

          Was that not clear? Your actions and tactics were similar, in nature, to leftists’.

        • Mirren10 says

          May 28, 2016 at 7:22 am

          I was going to reply to Peggy, but you’ve said it all. (son 🙂 )

        • Angemon says

          May 29, 2016 at 7:30 am

          😉

    • Angemon says

      May 26, 2016 at 11:24 am

      Peggy posted:

      “Angemon, you are just not making any sense at all.
      I will leave you with your insanity.
      ”

      It’s simple: you made a generalization about Western courts comparatively to Russian courts. When inquired on it you backed it with a textbook case of appeal to ignorance (“I don’t know of any imams in the West convicted for having weapons in their mosque therefore Western courts are soft”). And your comparison between Russia and the West reeks of hypocrisy because you went after me for comparing Russia and the West – apparently you have one set of standards when Russia looks bad by comparison and another when Russia allegedly doesn’t.

      “You think Russia is going soft because he was only sentenced to 3 years? Well, the West is worse!”

      If you want to claim I’m not makings sense or imply I’m insane, so be it. But remember:

      you might be the only one reading that into my post

      😉

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