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“Assumption that there is a sharp divide between Good Islam and Bad Islam is a comforting but dangerous illusion”

May 14, 2016 10:07 am By Ralph Sidway

“The assumption that there is a sharp divide between Good Islam and Bad Islam is a comforting [but] also a dangerous illusion. In the short run, holding such an assumption will make us feel good about our broad-mindedness. In the long run, we will be very sorry for having played this dangerous game of let’s pretend.”

“Good Islam vs. Bad Islam”, by William Kilpatrick, Crisis Magazine, May 4, 2016:

The February 11 edition of FrontPage Magazine contains an insightful piece by Daniel Greenfield on our failed counterterrorism strategy. Our policy, he wrote, is based on an artificial distinction between “Good Islam” and “Bad Islam.” Our aim, he continued, is to “convince Good Islam to have nothing to do with Bad Islam.”

Ironically, as Greenfield observed, “our diplomats and politicians don’t verbally acknowledge the existence of Bad Islam.” Instead they claim that the “bad Muslims” (the terrorists) aren’t really Muslims at all. To paraphrase various world leaders, the terrorists have “nothing to do with Islam,” “speak for no religion,” and have completely “perverted” the meaning of Islam. Technically, they’re not bad Muslims, because they’re no kind of Muslim. At least, that’s what the theory says.

In other words, our strategy is based on a circular argument: if you start with the premise that Islam is a peaceful religion, then those who break the peace cannot, by definition, be followers of Islam. They must be motivated by something else: grievances over imperialism, lust for power, or even some kind of psychological defect.

What Greenfield says about government policy toward Islam can also be applied to Church policy. Church leaders are also in the habit of saying that terrorism is a “perversion” of Islam. They claim that the jihadists use religion as a “pretext” to disguise other motives. And, on occasion, they have even urged Muslims to be more faithful to Islam. For example, when speaking to a group of Muslim refugees in Rome two years ago, Pope Francis told them to study the Koran as a means of expelling bitterness, and to follow the faith of their parents. Here’s what I had to say on the topic a year ago:

Church policy should be aimed at weakening faith in Islam. This the reverse of the current policy which is built on the assumption that there is a good (authentic) Islam and a bad (inauthentic) Islam and we should therefore reinforce Muslims’ faith in “true” Islam and encourage them to go deeper into it.

This, as I argued at the time, is an impossible project: “‘Good’ Islam and ‘bad’ Islam are as intimately related as Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, and Mr. Hyde always predominates in the end.” Or, as Greenfield puts it:

Good Islam and Bad Islam are two halves of the same coin … we’re trying to convince Dr. Jekyll to help us fight Mr. Hyde. And Dr. Jekyll might even help us out, until he turns into Mr. Hyde.

The proof of this thesis lies in our fear that the slightest criticism of Islam will force the moderates (good Muslims) to join the extremists (bad Muslims). But if Muslims can so readily convert from Jekyll to Hyde, can there have been much difference between the two in the first place? Nobody worries that an insult to the Catholic Church or even to Jesus is going to suddenly turn moderate Catholics into masked terrorists. The almost universal fear that moderate Muslims can be easily driven into the radical camp is an acknowledgement that the distance between the two is not that great.

In short, Good Islam and Bad Islam are not separated by a gulf; they are on a continuum. Many of the things that the “bad” Muslims do are done by our allies, the “good” Muslims. Thus, as Greenfield points out:

Our Good Islam allies in Pakistan fight Bad Islam’s terror, when they aren’t hiding Osama bin Laden. Bad Islam in the Islamic State beheads people and takes slaves and Good Islam in Saudi Arabia does too… The moderate Iranian government signs a nuclear deal and then the extremist Iranian government calls for “Death to America.”

Is the moderate Muslim nothing but a mirage? Not exactly. But there are probably far fewer of them than is generally assumed. It’s true that at any given time the vast majority of Muslims are peacefully going about their business. But “not-currently-killing-others” is a poor gauge of moderation. If the peaceful Muslims subscribe to more or less the same tenets as the “bad” Muslims, they should not be assumed to be moderate.

Numerous polls have shown that the majority of Muslims worldwide are supportive of extreme (and therefore immoderate) sharia punishments such as amputation for theft, stoning for adultery, and death for apostasy. There is also widespread support for blasphemy laws, which are often used as an excuse to persecute Christians. In Pakistan not long ago, 100,000 people attended the funeral of a man who murdered an opponent of the blasphemy laws. The victim was what we would call a moderate but his murderer seems to have been far more honored. About the same time, representatives of more than thirty-five religious parties and groups called for the revocation of a new Pakistani law protecting women from abuse. Meanwhile, the Nigerian Senate rejected a gender equality bill because Muslim senators said it was un-Islamic.

Such “moderate” Muslims may not be willing to kill, but they may be willing to support those who do. After the bombings in Brussels, it was revealed that the terrorists enjoyed wide support in the Muslim district where they were hiding. And, according to a New York Times article, ninety percent of teens in Muslim districts considered the attackers to be “heroes.” On the other side of the Channel, a poll of UK Muslims revealed that two-thirds of them would not report someone with terrorist ties to the police.

Are there any Muslims who would qualify for the more rigorous definition of moderate? There are indeed. But they are nowhere near a majority and their moderation often reflects a lack of commitment to mainstream Islamic beliefs. Many moderate Muslims are like “cafeteria Catholics.” They pick and choose those aspects of Islam that suit their inclinations and ignore the rest. For them, as for many a liberal Christian, religion is often a personal construct that bears little resemblance to the official version. While we may look upon such people as good Muslims, their co-religionists often look upon them with contempt.

Why, in the face of so much evidence, do so many in the West and in the Church believe that mainstream Islam is a model of moderation? The answer, in a word, is “projection.” When John Kerry says “the real face of Islam is a peaceful religion based on the dignity of all human beings,” he is projecting Western and Christian values onto a culture that is decidedly anti-Western and anti-Christian. When he says that “our faiths and our fates are inextricably linked,” Kerry, a Catholic, may be influenced by the many Catholic prelates who hold a similar view.

Catholics who hold to the more optimistic view of Islam like to think of themselves as champions of multiculturalism. But far from being sensitive to diversity, they are, in reality, being ethnocentric. In short, they assume that everyone else is just like them. They look at Islam through Catholic eyes and conclude, contrary to 1,400 years of evidence, that Islam is just an exotic form of Catholicism. They seem convinced that the vast majority of Muslims share the same concern for social justice, human dignity, and women’s rights that Christians have.

Again, this is an ethnocentric and even egocentric way of viewing the “other.” As Greenfield puts it, “moderate Islam isn’t what most Muslims believe. It’s what most liberals believe that Muslims believe.” Moderate Islam or Good Islam is an invention—“an imaginary religion that they imagine Muslims must practice because the alternative is the end of everything that they believe in.”

The assumption that there is a sharp divide between Good Islam and Bad Islam is a comforting illusion, but it is also a dangerous illusion. In the short run, holding such an assumption will make us feel good about our broad-mindedness. In the long run, we will be very sorry for having played this dangerous game of let’s pretend.

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William Kilpatrick taught for many years at Boston College. He is the author of several books about cultural and religious issues, including Psychological Seduction; Why Johnny Can’t Tell Right From Wrong; and Christianity, Islam and Atheism: The Struggle for the Soul of the West. His articles have appeared in numerous publications, including Catholic World Report, National Catholic Register, Aleteia, Saint Austin Review, Investor’s Business Daily, and First Things. His work is supported in part by the Shillman Foundation. For more on his work and writings, visit his website, turningpointproject.com

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  1. Jay Boo says

    May 14, 2016 at 10:20 am

    (Idfidel-phobia) and church massacres.
    The truth that no one wants to talk about.

    Why have we not seen the mass carnage at our churches in the West as in the Middle East and in Pakistan? Are the Muslims in the West far more tolerant of non-Muslims, or is it perhaps– something else? What so far has stopped the atrocities at our churches? Might it be the knowledge that while bending over to kiss a carpet at the local mosque Muslims are very vulnerable? Most Christians are peaceful, however even some Christians can succumb to anger. It the West Muslims are far out-numbered and they know it. However, wherever Muslims are the majority we see the true face of Islam.

    The unpleasant truth about Anders.
    While no one here condones what Anders did, let’s be brutally honest about the unpleasant truth. Anders’ horrific actions probably saved more lives than it took. Although he was not a practicing Christian at all, unlike Muslims who kill in full accordance with their inherently hateful and violent Islamic texts, he showed that even Muslim supremacists can’t expect all others to always march in lock-step in submission to their slave master whip-lash from accusations of Islamophobia. Fortunately, most who confront Islamic supremacists do it with words that expose their hidden agendas. But what happens when rank political correctness and shameless censorship allows Muslim rape gangs to run amuck or Muslims cut off heads in public in London while cowardly politicians sit with thumbs up their asses suppressing all criticism of Islam or Muslims and clever schemes allow the electing a Muslim mayor? The next Anders is steaming somewhere, maybe in London while the shameless celebrate.

    Politicians like Kerry will try to claim the credit for stopping mass killings at churches in the West but the reality is Muslim awareness that their own selfish interests are at stake.

    • Kepha says

      May 14, 2016 at 6:32 pm

      Do I assume rightly that you mean Anders Breivik?

    • Jay Boo says

      May 14, 2016 at 8:14 pm

      Anders is a creep. Islam is creepier still.

      • DFD says

        May 15, 2016 at 1:41 pm

        To Jay Boo, also, Graven, Angemon, Charli Main and Mark Swan would be interested in this, I think.

        Jay Boo says: “Anders is a creep. Islam is creepier still.”

        Hi Jay Boo (and others),

        You spoke above about Anders. I wondered about him too, read up here & there. Without Islam, he would not have happened. He would have, perhaps, joined a fringe party, conspiracy group, whatever. What he saw was his number getting smaller and smaller. ‘The others’ being more and more privileged, catered for and every unlawful action excused. What I think of as the ever widening ‘circle of hate’. For what else will it lead to? You privilege one group, give it for practical purposes mastery of all others, i.e., Christians, Jews, Atheists, Hindus etc., and the result will be hate in the groups(s) which will have to surrender more and more of the natural, civil, democratic rights.

        How many Anders will there be? Good question, in Europe there’s at least a regiment brewing in the incubators of the enemedia (Thanks Pam Geller), if only a group of battalion strength materializes… Whoooo…. Moreover, think about what happens when several of these Anders make contact with each other, just a few groups. It’ll make Anders lone-wolf action, or *reaction* rather, look like a lone-puppy operation.

        The potential is enormous, in Germany about 70,000 police officers have resigned during 2015 alone! No replacements. Was in one of the MSM papers, I forgot which. Though, I kept the link, but when, after a few days, I wanted to copy the article out, error 404… No info any more at all. You figure. Doesn’t look much better for the rest of the western EU countries, trying to get such stats that is. In France/Paris and some other places the police regularly has to flee.

        Anders was a loner and a looner, but the enemedia and the Islamophiles are preparing them relentlessly. And, of course, so do the various ‘anti fascists/racist/nazi’ movements. Not the effect they intend, surely, but it happens. The brazenness of the spread of Islamist attacks and settlements, which rapidly turn into colonies, continues at a pace. In the EU as well as in the US. (Your Muslim percentage just has to be wrong… As are many of ‘our’ stats)

        How many Anders will there be? How long is a piece of string?

        Here in the UK, in conversations, I wake the ‘complacent ones’, with a simple question. Works like this, I express some concerns about Islam, not much, not quoting any texts, verses and all that, just a bit of worry, and wait for them. Their usual reply: “Isn’t that bad, give them a chance, give it time…” Then I change subject a bit, and launch my question: “What do you think about the paedophile cases, like Jim (Seville), Cliff Richard, etc.” Outrage, disgust, they should be severely punished… Then I follow up: “But what about the Muslims? Thousands of girls and boys enslaved for sex, over decades. Barely any punishments, and its still going on, on a massive scale in far more places like Rotherham. Think of Luton, Birmingham.”

        Should see their faces, and should see them *breathing* – then I leave. Done it, and I didn’t even mention the quran nor hadith… It works. But I keep on thinking, am I producing the next Anders, or lay indirectly the ground for one? He grew on helplessness, on being alone and no one to trust, to talk.

        Here’s some food for thought: Germany’s foreign debt: €2.24 trillion, thus for each German with a job €54,000.00 debt. For the completely skinned Greeks, €28,700.00 for every one with a job! Difference, Germany can still get credit. Merkel’s regime? Spend another 93.6 billion till 2020, the social services required for those peoples are 25.7 billion for the same schedule. This seems to be underestimated. The € and the $ are roughly equal… Source = PI Magazin. At least, for Germany some numbers are available, which can be considered (with a lot of good will) to be somewhat reasonable. Sweden, Austria, France etc., I suspect the accounts in reference to their Muhajirouns are run by Peter Pan – or Wendy 🙂

        So, again, how many Anders? Perhaps one should ask a relation of those whose daughter/son/wife/mother has been sexually assaulted. There’s an army brewing. New recruits: Example, 14th of May, unreported in the mainstream: Vienna, a Nurse on her way home in her car, about 18:45, red traffic lights, three ‘dark-skinned-men’ entered the car, one pulled her back on her hair, immobilizing her, I spare you the rest.

        So, how many of her male relatives will turn Anders, or in turn generate or trigger one? You (plural) tell me.

        Here are some of the recruitment videos. Now note, first these are some of the softer ones! And these are distributed on disks, by postal service or individual activists, dropping them into letterboxes. Not links, but disks to play. These usually go without commentary, except the instruction to copy and to distribute. Look for the flags, all over Europe, from Russia to Portugal. And so is the distribution of those disks, they contain more than just those three clips.

        https://youtu.be/aNwd06bxDNM
        https://youtu.be/DxyaQrlm5rg
        https://youtu.be/Sgq7iTiqzFk

        The message is always the same, a juxtaposition saying: CHOSE!

        The interesting part is that the ultra right now looks at the Muslims as an asset for trouble, as did the ultra left from the outset… And its heading your way. Current situation in Germany, every other day an asylum center burns, since the beginning of the year. False, since that excludes the drowning by flooding attacks. In early ’16 the number touted was that over 600 centers have been destroyed during 2015. When I wanted to compare that with the one-every-other-day stat, guess – 404!

        • Jay Boo says

          May 29, 2016 at 12:21 am

          There will sadly probably be more Anders because politicians are willing to sell out their fellow citizens for a VOTE.

    • gravenimage says

      May 28, 2016 at 11:26 pm

      Jay Boo wrote:

      The unpleasant truth about Anders.
      While no one here condones what Anders did, let’s be brutally honest about the unpleasant truth. Anders’ horrific actions probably saved more lives than it took…
      ……………………….

      Jay Boo, I know you have praised this vile murderous thug here before, who murdered his own people, including children. Are you on a first-name basis with him now?

      Anders Breivik is a monstrous figure, and one who openly *admired the tactics of Muslim terrorists*.

      The idea that he is some sort of Anti-Jihadist is utterly false.

      Robert Spencer has debunked this many times here before.

      • Jay Boo says

        May 29, 2016 at 12:18 am

        gravenimage
        You call my comment praise.
        You are attempting to misrepresent what I wrote and limit it to fit your high horse opinion at my expense.

        I call your response simplistic and dishonest.
        You say that Anders Breivik is a monstrous figure.
        Why stop there?
        Why not call me a monster then for telling the simple truth and not playing into your popularity contest game.

      • Jay Boo says

        May 29, 2016 at 12:24 am

        gravenimage said
        “Are you on a first-name basis with him now?”

        That was nasty

  2. Angemon says

    May 14, 2016 at 10:31 am

    Assumption that there is a sharp divide between Good Islam and Bad Islam is a comforting but dangerous illusion

    Sums it up nicely.

    • Jay Boo says

      May 14, 2016 at 12:26 pm

      Assumption

      Dear beetle, said the spider, you have such an impressive high shell.
      Won’t you show us your underbelly of political correctness as well.
      Dazzle us please in the light of the morning sun.
      Oh yes, it is glorious indeed.
      Even the sun will be impressed.

      Oh dear, said the beetle, it is getting a bit warm in the sun.
      Turn me over please dear spider.
      Please.

  3. Howard Pond says

    May 14, 2016 at 10:37 am

    I wrote an article that was posted on Ali Sina’s site, FaithFreedom.org, which directly describes the danger of not understanding how Islam’s adherents can quickly move from warm and fuzzy to fanatical. Mr. Sina;s comment at the end of the article was: “This article describes the moderate Muslim better than anything i have ever read. Please spread it.”

    • Howard Pond says

      May 14, 2016 at 10:38 am

      The link is:http://www.faithfreedom.org/introducing-the-term-jack-muslim/

      • linnte says

        May 14, 2016 at 12:51 pm

        I like the definition for Jihadis as “fundamentalist”. It’s correct.

      • BC says

        May 15, 2016 at 5:36 am

        Excellent article I recommend it. What Muslims fear the most is being labelled un Islamic
        which basically means questioning Islam, a Muslim can get away with being a weak Muslim
        or as Pond says Jack Muslim but being un Islamic is likely to lead to social ostracism and at worst violence from the extreme Muslims who think being un Islamic is a rejection of Islam.
        We know hat happens to apostates. In this Islam is just like Fascism or Communism. Anybody who was heard to criticise the authorities or insult the leader, could be reported by neighbours or in some cases their own family even their children. Leading to a visit from the KGB or Gestapo.
        We have seen this sort of thing in Islam where children have left their families to go off and join IS.
        Conversely children have been murdered or severely beaten for being too ‘Westernised’

    • Sog says

      May 14, 2016 at 11:11 am

      I think it’s important to know that good people will *never* harm another regard less of creed. The problem with Islam stems from the truth that all religions have bad people as members, and Islam has the capacity for evil people to be employed in the “enforcement” function which is codified in the Koran and Koranic traditions.

      Good Muslims don’t harm members of other creeds or rein in members of their own, but that leaves plenty of not nice, pious, and aggressive young men who will.

      • dajjal says

        May 15, 2016 at 8:19 pm

        CanekShit! Islam was contrived by an evil man for an evil purpose: his personal emolument and empowerment through the profession of brigandry. Casting his war cult as divine allowed Moe to sanctify rape, pillage, plunder, slavery and extortion as a sacrament to be rewarded by deity after death. It allowed him to cast passivity as a sin to be punished after death.

        Islam was initiated by one bad person who recruited others who collectively recruited more by force of arms.

        By appointing himself to the high office of final Prophet, Moe turned unholy shit into holy writ. Dr. Jasser’s personal, apolitical Islam is the distortion & perversion. Perpetual, genocidal terrorism is the standard, not the exception.

  4. Sog says

    May 14, 2016 at 10:42 am

    Islam is the hockey of religions. It’s the only religion that employs “enforcers”, and Hockey is the only sport that does the same.

    It is no surprise that a small number of traders could immigrate into Malaysia and transform the region into an Islamic region, displacing earlier gentile religions that preceded it. Religions that have characteristic “enforcement” techniques will overcome gentler peaceful religions over time. Adjacency with Islam will continually tend to bleed members to Islam, because of Islam’s employment of “enforcers”

    The only way Islam will disappear would be by morphing into other religions isolated from the main body of Islam over time. All religions spawned from Islam, however will employ “enforcement” coded into its religious texts and traditions. IMHO.

    • BC says

      May 15, 2016 at 5:39 am

      Is hockey a ‘sport’ I have always thought it was WWF on skates

    • dajjal says

      May 15, 2016 at 8:26 pm

      Ahmadiyya & Bahai are persecuted for a reason. Both are based on the Unholy Koranus and retain all its evil, though they do not emphasize it. Their deviation: insertion of a Prophet after Moe croaked. Moe appointed himself “seal of the Prophets”; final, end of the line.

      One hadith states that Allah will, every 100 years, send someone to “renovate” Islam. That means drag it bag to its foundation like Ibn al-Wahhab & Qutb.

      The Jihad will not be over until the earth is not infested with Muslims. On the ideological plane or the kinetic plane, the battle must be fought until the only living ‘slimes are Ex- Muslims.

  5. overman says

    May 14, 2016 at 11:07 am

    Possibly your best post Robert – excellent.

    “In Pakistan not long ago, 100,000 people attended the funeral of a man who murdered an opponent of the blasphemy laws. The victim was what we would call a moderate but his murderer seems to have been far more honored. About the same time, representatives of more than thirty-five religious parties and groups called for the revocation of a new Pakistani law protecting women from abuse”

    Pakistan is a Cesspit of pedophilia and depravity [lndia should never have given it to them after lndependence], where about 1.5 million street kids are preyed on by pedophile men. Also, a big drug problem. The youtube vid – ‘Pakistan’s Hidden Shame’, exposes this.
    Kerry is exactly like Chamberlain vs Hitler or the Pope kissing the koran – in the pic below:

    http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/popekiss.jpg

    “Many moderate Muslims are like “cafeteria Catholics.”

    Yes, like Saddique Khans – ‘Uncle Toms’. BTW l feel Khan’s main ambition is Camerons’ job. lt’s also funny that he becomes London Mayor just before the European Referendum next month. Every muslim in the UK will now be voting to stay in europe because Khan wants it.

    • Robert Spencer says

      May 14, 2016 at 11:18 am

      As is clearly marked in the post, this was actually posted by Ralph Sidway, written by William Kirkpatrick, and based on an earlier article by Daniel Greenfield. I had nothing to do with it, which is not to say I don’t agree with it 100 percent; I do, but one should give credit where credit is due.

      • overman says

        May 14, 2016 at 11:29 am

        OK Robert, thanks for making that clear. l must have missed that lol.

      • linnte says

        May 14, 2016 at 1:11 pm

        You read our posts! Awesome! Please come to Eugene Oregon to speak!

    • Charli Main says

      May 14, 2016 at 2:18 pm

      With respect, overman, India DID NOT give Pakistan to the Pakis.

      Accepting partition, was a part of the Indian Independence deal, cobbled together by the British Government of the day.
      However, the catastrophic mistake that the Indians did make, was not rounding up every Muslim in India and sending them to their new ” homeland”. After all, that was the whole idea behind partition.

      • faraway says

        May 14, 2016 at 2:38 pm

        Moslems don’t care about the environment so they breed like rabbits.In about 30 years India will have more moslems than any country in the world!

  6. overman says

    May 14, 2016 at 11:27 am

    Also, l should mention that the vast majority of muslims in The UK are Pakistanis like Sadiq Aman Khan. And, of course, the Rotherham child abuse scandal in England:

    “1,400 children had been sexually abused in the town between 1997 and 2013, predominantly by gangs of British-Pakistani Muslim men. Abuses described included abduction, rape, torture and sex trafficking of children.”

  7. billybob says

    May 14, 2016 at 12:09 pm

    A wonderfully clear article. If only people like Kerry, Hillary, or Obama would read it!
    This article needs to be spread far and wide.

    • Guest says

      May 14, 2016 at 5:05 pm

      I’m certain they read and then they use all the power they have to make sure no one else reads it.

    • dajjal says

      May 15, 2016 at 8:37 pm

      Those AnalEncephalopaths could not comprehend it and would only demonize it as bigoted racism.

  8. Rev. William Cook says

    May 14, 2016 at 12:28 pm

    We believe what we want to believe. “Good Islam v. bad Islam” is a “convenient untruth,” (as opposed to Al Gore’s (“Inconvenient Truth”). As I watch people in my community go about their daily lives, consumed in activities that suggest a strong normalcy bias that underestimates or denies the lethal metastatic threat (Islam) firmly lodged in our midst, I am in awe. The Apostle Paul referred to this delusive phenomenon as “strong delusion,” ironically, sent by God himself, to ensure the eternal damnation of individuals who “received not the love of the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” (2 Thessalonians 2:10-12) It is hard to watch.

  9. rubiconcrest says

    May 14, 2016 at 12:30 pm

    ‘The almost universal fear that moderate Muslims can be easily driven into the radical camp is an acknowledgement that the distance between the two is not that great.’
    Yes, that in essence, is precisely on point. This belief which is held by our politicians and some generals (Petraeus) is evidence of the fact that they know a large percentage can in fact be turned to the ‘dark side’ if we tell the truth.

  10. mortimer says

    May 14, 2016 at 12:33 pm

    Muslims don’t believe there are two kinds of Islam: good and bad. In no Muslim country will anyone hear such nonsense. The mobs would be on the streets very quickly. Burnings, shootings, assassinations and beheadings would result from such comments.

    Just go to Indonesia and Pakistan and say ‘There is a peaceful Islam and a jihadi Islam…one is good and the other is bad.’

    You will either be escorted to the airport in minutes for the next plane out or you will be dead in minutes of saying it when the mullahs call out their mobs and give your address.

    • Jay Boo says

      May 14, 2016 at 8:16 pm

      Good point

  11. mortimer says

    May 14, 2016 at 12:37 pm

    Quote: “After the bombings in Brussels, it was revealed that the terrorists enjoyed wide support in the Muslim district where they were hiding. And, according to a New York Times article, ninety percent of teens in Muslim districts considered the attackers to be “heroes.” On the other side of the Channel, a poll of UK Muslims revealed that two-thirds of them would not report someone with terrorist ties to the police.”

    There is no excuse for Western elites not know that most Muslim youth in the West are already radicalized.

    • PRCS says

      May 14, 2016 at 9:38 pm

      Radicalized?

      What does that mean to you?

    • dajjal says

      May 15, 2016 at 8:45 pm

      Strike Radicalized</s insert Muslims or if you need a different term: Believers.
      Radical & radicalized are lies which ought not be retold.

  12. Islam_Macht_Frei says

    May 14, 2016 at 1:07 pm

    How come we never hear this concerning other systems?

    1. Good Nazism – built the autobahns, revived the economy Bad Nazism – started wars and committed genocide

    2. Good KKK – does charity drives and cleans the local highways Bad KKK – terrorizes and murders Blacks.

    Each having “nothing to do” with the other…..

  13. Raja says

    May 14, 2016 at 1:23 pm

    William Kilpartick’s/ Ralph’s articles are good and absorbing as always. This article though may not be informative for average Jihadwatch visitor, is a treasure trove on Islam which should be made known to all under the sun.

    What he is saying is, there is a rather fine line between moderate and extremist Islam. Most often the line is too hazy or blurred to differentiate. if the propensity to slide into extremist side of Islam is so high / at the drop of a hat for a “moderate” Islamist, the claim of Islam being peaceful is seriously flowed or can even be termed deceptive. Aren’t politician’s/ public figures/celebrities being deceptive when they claim Islam to be peaceful.?

    As long as Islam with all its lies and deception is not confronted it will remain supremacist in nature and killings and all forms of cruelty will continue whether on extremist side or moderate side of the same coin that is Islam.

    We have too many cases of extremist and “moderate” Islam bundled into one. e.g: Late Yasser Arafat, Gadafi, Gen Zia of Pakistan, 100000 cheerleaders for murderers of real moderates(who are few), these are common sights in Pak. “devout Islamic kings” of India were not only cruel and murderous but pretended to be benevolent. Everybody defended or fought for the lame duck evil Islam as per his whims and fancies.

    A proverb says: If you go in front of a donkey he bites you and if you go behind him he kicks you. You are damned either ways viz a viz Islam. You might as well speak out or tell the bitter truth than be sorry. Is Europe listening?

  14. abad says

    May 14, 2016 at 2:30 pm

    Lurch has drunk the Kool-Aid.

    No such thing as “Good Islam” and “Bad Islam.”

    Islam is Islam is Islam.

  15. Christian says

    May 14, 2016 at 2:55 pm

    as far back as the Crimean war of mid 19th century, when western powers sided with islamic turkey, it was apparent that the west is driven by temporal considerations alone. thus keeping turkey in nato or pleasing saudi oil sheiks, takes precedence over confronting an evil doctrine that continually produces poisonous fruits. muslims are on their best behaviors when greatly out numbered as in america. when they become a significant minority expect bombings and terrorist outrages, e.g. india, russia, france… once they achieve parity like in lebanon, you will get a full scale civil war until you are completely driven out of your own land. and when they become a majority, may God help you if you are a minority.
    mr Spencer & co: you do a great work of alerting the people and their rulers. let’s hope it will not be too late when they wake up.

  16. dumbledoresarmy says

    May 14, 2016 at 6:43 pm

    In the posted article William Kilpatrick, an American Catholic scholar, is making *exactly* the same point as was made by fiercely-anticlerical Irishman Conor Cruise O’Brien twenty years ago.

    Here’s the Conor Cruise O’Brien article. It appeared in the “Independent” which wouldn’t be seen dead publishing anything similar, today.

    “The Lesson of Algeria: Islam is Indivisible”.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the-lesson-of-algeria-islam-is-indivisible-1566770.html

    CONOR CRUISE O’BRIEN
    Friday 6 January 1995
    The lesson of Algeria: Islam is indivisible

    Here’s how Mr O’Brien begins:

    ““Fundamentalist Islam” is a misnomer which dulls our perceptions in a dangerous way. It does so by implying that there is some other kind of Islam, which is well disposed to those who reject the Koran. There isn’t…”.

    The article is also reproduced here, with some commentary.

    http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/45600
    Thursday, 10 January 2013
    A Blast From the Past: Conor Cruise O’Brien, in 1995, Discussing the Jihad in Algeria

    • gravenimage says

      May 28, 2016 at 11:32 pm

      Good post, DDA

  17. Champ says

    May 14, 2016 at 6:59 pm

    Good islam? Oh please islam is *wholly* evil!

    Check out islam’s evil founder: muhammad:

    https://youtu.be/eV8WkwqIg2Y

    • gravenimage says

      May 28, 2016 at 11:32 pm

      So true.

  18. Jay Boo says

    May 14, 2016 at 8:44 pm

    Caution (Adult Content below)
    Islam is a Perv Paradise

    Bowing to their 72 V Master Beast

    The Master beasting Muslims at their prayer dance stroke to the right then stroke to the left. These Islamic circle jerkers love to do what they do best. They stroke the Beast and bow to the East then blame their Master Beast jerking all on the West.

    Muslim style – “American Pie”
    is holding the Qur’an in place of the pie.

  19. Mubarak says

    May 15, 2016 at 7:52 am

    Islam is a body with two heads and to encourage “good Islam” to fight “bad Islam” is to propose that Islam should play both sides of the table. Sure Islam is bound to win the game under such circumstances.
    It reminds us of the quote of Karl Kraus: “Psychoanalysis is that mental illness for which it regards itself as therapy.”

  20. steve says

    May 15, 2016 at 8:30 am

    Islamic fundamentalists and Islamic moderates…………..Bad gangrene versus good gangrene….

  21. Troybeam says

    May 15, 2016 at 9:19 am

    The sooner people understand there is just Islam,

    Islam is a whole unit that works for one purpose, world caliphate. It is not a religion but a theocracy, it lives and breathes one law: sharia law in every place that it exists, it demands respect but has no respect for other cultures people or places, Islam destroys history of lands it invades even in the middle east it has destroyed any and all it can that is pre- Mohammed.

    There is not one good thing about Islam all it does is destroy, kill and enslave in order to conquer.

  22. patriotliz says

    May 15, 2016 at 11:26 am

    BRAVO! Just might add that “good” and “bad” are defined by our Western standards of what WE think a religion should be. A “good” Muslim in the Muslim world is a purist, fundamentalist, devoted to the Quran and follows the example of Mohammed (pedophile, war monger, cutting off heads, sex slaves, etc.). A “bad” Muslim is not all that serious about Islam and its teachings. “Moderate” Muslim is another label invented by Westerners and just means the lesser of the evils in the Muslim world. Islam is Fascism. Not all Nazis killed Jews, but all were loyal to der Fuhrer. Not all members of the KKK lynched blacks, but they were all white supremacists. Islam by any other name is inherently anti-peace, anti-civil rights, imperialistic, supremacist, intolerant of all other religions, does not have separation of Mosque and State, has Fascistic Sharia Law and is inhumane.
    https://youtu.be/WIojqsHBWko

  23. gordon miller says

    May 15, 2016 at 11:53 am

    Excellent article to be considered long and hard by American policymakers.

  24. Dean says

    May 15, 2016 at 2:03 pm

    Even in the extremely unlikely possibility of sufficient reform within Islam to make it compatible with modern civilization, they are centuries away from it being accomplished with our own process as an example and coming from far less of a primitive cultural norm. The problem with a handful of actual moderates, that are ignored by main stream media, is that they are associated with a few other Muslims that are at least sympathetic with Islamic desire to dominate but want to believe they can co-exist with western cultural norms. That is not good enough and everyone of them is a potential jihadist when provoked or in any situation where they are forced to take sides.

  25. Norger says

    May 15, 2016 at 8:47 pm

    Absolutely brilliant article.

  26. Ed Dunkin says

    May 16, 2016 at 10:05 am

    I Am a very Proud Canadian. When Donny becomes president, I sincerely hope he puts Trudeau on his radar to eradicate Canada’s flawed policy of bringing in ANY Muslim from ANY country.

    If the so called moderates in our country can not denounce radical muslims, they are not the friends of Canada or the United States. They are ‘Terrorists in waiting!’

    I live in a small depressed community, with an Air Force Base right here, and almost no Muslims that I see. Why in hell are they building a mosque here. There are Air Force barracks made ready for use. Are we about to become overwhelmed by Syrians?

    Canadians watch what is happening in the US because what ever happens there, happens here and vice versa.

    Have our existing leaders swung so far to the left that they willingly sacrifice all that we believe in as two allied nations? Are they all mad or just protecting their own politically correct asses.

    • linnte says

      May 16, 2016 at 12:49 pm

      Dunkin, you haven’t heard about Trudeau planning on filling up old military bases with Muslims? That’s his plan!!!! You are in a heap of trouble my friend. Just how many families would you say would fit in there? Well, there ya go! Let your neighbors know, because that’s the plan.

      • Ed Dunkin says

        May 16, 2016 at 5:30 pm

        There is a feeling of impending doom in the neighbourhood…….

        • linnte says

          May 16, 2016 at 5:43 pm

          From a nursing perspective, patients having a heart attack often describe that “feeling of impending doom” while they could be dying. Best get a hunting rifle Ed! And if you have children, start training them NOW to check in on you constantly. Get together with your neighbors to discuss safety measures for kids. I am serious! And immigrant children have been physically abusing non Muslim kids too, there in Canada. Teach the kids to help each other out of situations like that. The school officials of Halifax have absolutely ignored parents about this issue due to fear of being called racist.

        • Ed Dunkin says

          May 16, 2016 at 6:01 pm

          Friends from the States told me years ago, “Ed, we are fighiting for rights that you guys have never even had!” He makes a point.
          Lock and load my frind ……

        • linnte says

          May 16, 2016 at 6:51 pm

          Locked, loaded and ready! ?

    • dajjal says

      May 17, 2016 at 5:02 am

      Yes!

  27. Ed Dunkin says

    May 17, 2016 at 8:35 am

    Good sunny morning Mr. DuMaurier
    You make a very valid point about hatred of the many because of the actions of the few. Where I stumble in its application with the Muslim race is in the actual fact of their core beliefs. If they are true believers in their faith, are they not taught that non believers, even within their own communities, that all infidels are to be despised and slaughtered, once their masses have infiltrated our communities? Is it not true that they are taught this from birth?
    I would think those that burn crosses have a similar background in their own homes and communities as well. It’s what they are taught to believe from birth, so their values are skewed.
    It would be wonderful to believe that the majority of Muslims have rejected their own upbringing and have seen a more enlightened way of life, and I am sure that many have done so. But, how do we know which ones they are, especially when they are now coming from a region of hate and destruction? Something that they have lived all their lives, for 1400 years of many many generations.
    Hatred always arises from fear, fear of not knowing what to expect from the person standing right in front of us, brandishing ideals contrary to our own western beliefs. It’s one thing to be a young uninformed rebel yelling about politicians in our countries. It’s a completely different scenario if the rebels are not of our world, with corrupted core values. I know of no answer except one. Stop the influx of all Muslims until a proper screening process is in place and then be very very careful. I ask why the prisons in some countries with a population of less than 3% muslim, occupy over 70% of the jail cells. The mind reels with thoughts of a cultural upbringing where adultery means death for a woman. Men are barely chastised for it, if at all. The woman is blamed. I do not want to live in a society of inequality among people. We have forgotten how to laugh at ourselves and cherish our differences. Black, white, brown, yellow or pokadot, we all have similar thoughts on life and liberty, equality and freedom. Can that be said of the Muslim believers…..??? Could these comments even happen in middle easter society, without repercussion?
    Thank you for reading, Ed

  28. SBJ says

    May 29, 2016 at 12:40 am

    Even Erdogan made it clear there is no such thing as a moderate Islam. Turkey’s PM Erdogan: The term “moderate Islam” is ugly and offensive — Islam is Islam

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