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BBC warns soccer fans not to dress as Crusaders to avoid offending Muslims

Jun 6, 2016 12:19 pm By Robert Spencer

“Crusaders were the perpetrators of violent attacks across Europe and the Middle East on Muslims, Jews and pagans.” The attacks on innocent people of any religion cannot and should not be excused, but the BBC seriously misleads its readers when it presents the Crusades as an unprovoked exercise of proto-colonialism directed against a peaceful Muslim world. The Crusades were in reality a late, small-scale defensive response after 450 years of jihad attacks had conquered and Islamized what had previously been over half of the Christian world. Armies animated by the jihad ideology (or that eventually justified their actions by recourse to it) had occupied much of the Middle East, North Africa, and Spain, as well as Persia and much of India, centuries before a Crusade was even contemplated. They had entered France, and besieged Constantinople.

The Seljuk Turks’ victory over the Byzantines at Manzikert in 1071, when they took the Emperor Romanus IV Diogenes prisoner, opened all of Asia Minor to them. In 1076, they conquered Syria; in 1077, Jerusalem. The Seljuk Emir Atsiz bin Uwaq promised not to harm the inhabitants of Jerusalem, but once his men had entered the city, they murdered 3,000 people. The same year the Seljuks established the sultanate of Rum (Rome, referring to the New Rome, Constantinople) in Nicaea, perilously close to Constantinople itself; from here they continued to threaten the Byzantines and harass the Christians all over their new domains. The Eastern Roman Empire, which before Islam’s wars of conquest had ruled over a vast expanse including southern Italy, North Africa, the Middle East, and Arabia, was reduced to little more than Greece. It looked as if its demise at the hands of the Seljuks was imminent. The Church of Constantinople considered the pope a schismatic and had squabbled with him for centuries, but the new Emperor Alexius I Comnenus (1081-1118) swallowed his pride and appealed for help. And that is how the First Crusade came about: it was a response to the Byzantine Emperor’s call for help against Muslim invaders who threatened to destroy the Christian empire.

The Crusaders committed many atrocities. At the same time, the period of 1099-1291, when the Crusaders were present in the Holy Land, saw a complete cessation of Islamic attacks in Europe, and probably saved Europe from total conquest and Islamization.

So why shouldn’t English soccer fans dress as Crusaders and take pride in their own culture and heritage? Because, of course, that culture is spent, and weak, and confused, and anxious to appease a much more confident alternative culture that regards the Crusades as an affront.

soccer crusaders

“BBC Warns Football Fans Dressing as Crusaders ‘Offensive’ to Muslims,” by Donna Rachel Edmunds, Breitbart, June 4, 2016:

The BBC has warned English football fans not to dress as crusaders when attending the Euro 2016 tournament this summer as they might cause offence to Muslims.

The advice comes via their ‘iWonder’ website, aimed at a younger audience, which asks such pressing questions as “Was Shakespeare a feminist?” and “How green is my commute?”

Posing the question: “Is it wrong to dress as a crusader for an England match?” the answer appears to be a resounding “yes”.

“Crusaders were the perpetrators of violent attacks across Europe and the Middle East on Muslims, Jews and pagans,” the website intones, suggesting that fans may simply want to don the English flag instead, as “this has nothing to do with crusaders or what they stood for”.

And although it can’t help musing: “The English flag used to have connotations with far-right nationalism,” it is forced to concede that: “Today the flag is flown by local authorities and individuals in a purely patriotic sense.”

Digging deeper into the history of the crusades, the website depicts crusaders as “wading ankle deep in blood, killing civilians and resorting to cannibalism,” although it admits that accounts of such actions “may have [been] exaggerated,” while a source is cited describing the leader of the Muslim forces, Nur ed-Din as “a just prince, valiant and wise, and according to the traditions of his race, a religious man”.

Breezing past the fact that the Christian Holy Roman Empire was “losing territory to Muslim Turks in the East,” the website recounts the history of the crusades in terms depicting the Christian forces as the equivalent of today’s Islamic State: religion-crazed extremists who ravaged the Middle East in an attempt to win favour in heaven.

It wasn’t the Holy Roman Empire, it was the Eastern Roman Byzantine Empire.

The English king Richard the First, we are told, slayed his captives while his forces “massacred” the people of Constantinople and plundered the city….

A spokesman for the BBC insisted that the iWonder website doesn’t take a view on any topic. “iWonder guides are not the BBC passing judgement, they cover a huge range of topics and are designed to ask questions which encourage debate. In this instance, the users were given the opportunity to express their own views by voting on the topic,” he told The Times.

But the Council for the Advancement of Arab-British Understanding (Caabu) has suggested that fans take heed of the BBC’s warning and leave the crusader costumes behind when travelling to France for the tournament this summer.

Chris Doyle, director of Caabu, said the word “crusade” has powerful negative connotations in the Arab world, which could potentially open fans up to being targeted by extremists.

“I would hope Muslims do not take offence but there may well be people who do. They may present themselves as more of a target to any extremist,” he said.

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  1. Jay Boo says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 12:24 pm

    In related news:

    Muslims advised not to dress up in their Islamic CLOWN suits to avoid offending Infidels.

    • Mark says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 12:44 pm

      I like that deal

      • Fantaesia says

        Jun 6, 2016 at 9:16 pm

        I like that deal as well. No more burkas allowed. No welfare, no multiple wives, no child brides, no praying in the streets, no Muslim lunchrooms in public schools, no teaching Islam in public schools, no halal food in regular supermarkets. No shariah. Assimilate or go home.

        • bostongal912 says

          Jun 7, 2016 at 4:38 am

          My thoughts exactly! Why do we always have to cave to the Muslims! It drives me crazy! Those burkas they make their women wear are creepy looking if you ask me! In fact I don’t get why they dress in that Muslim garb in the first place! That clothing is made for the desert! They look ridiculous! Just my opinion!

    • Champ says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 3:27 pm

      Muslims advised not to dress up in their Islamic CLOWN suits to avoid offending Infidels.

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      They won’t do that, since the BBC are going for Dhimmi of the Year …

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 5:23 pm

      Good one, Jay Boo.

      • particolor says

        Jun 7, 2016 at 4:57 am

        Yet Muslims dress like Muslims to OFFEND Us ?? 🙁 🙁 SHEEESH !!

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 7, 2016 at 4:45 pm

          Muslims do not dress as Muslims purely to offend Infidels–but any Infidel who is *not* offended by this indication of Muslim supremacy is either ignorant of its meaning or else a dhimmi fool.

    • Keys says

      Jun 7, 2016 at 4:58 am

      Test

    • Lia says

      Jun 7, 2016 at 5:05 am

      That’s the Beeb as we know it.

      • Aardvark says

        Jun 7, 2016 at 8:47 am

        Yep, Al-BBCeera is actively supporting Islam, and offering Islamic propaganda whenever it can.

        Following the Great British Bake-off fiasco, where a muslima who should have been eliminated in the early rounds was carefully shepherded into being declared the winner, the BBC is now repeating the trick with the Great British Sewing Bee, a dress-making competition.

        It is quite sick-making to watch the judges ignoring the glaring errors made by the muslima while criticising and penalising the lesser mistakes made by other competitors.

    • Carolyne says

      Jun 7, 2016 at 8:34 pm

      And frightening children.

  2. Henry jones says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 12:24 pm

    Lol, let me guess. Radicals will kill folks dressed as Crusaders, then Robert and Pam will host a “Dress Like a Crusader” contest in Texas and see what happens lol. I’m game!

    • Keys says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 3:43 pm

      Soccer Match One: Admit to the game only those dressed as Mohammad. Must be accompanied by 9 old girl.

      Match Two: Admit only fans wearing full burqa including men. Free plastic scimitar for the burqa wearing kids. FAN REMINDER: AK47 screening at the gate.

      NO kafir attire permitted these two matches only.

    • Rob says

      Jun 7, 2016 at 12:31 am

      ..and then media will castigate Robert and Pam for incitement.
      Let’s please stop infantilizing these people. If they are so thin skinned that they are incited to violence by Crusader costumes then the solution is in their hands.
      As Robert points out the Muslim ire is entirely ahistorical. The first Crusade took place 300 years after the Muslim army was defeated at Tours in Northern France. Look Muzzy, i get pissed off at my government all the time. I save up my frustrations and every few years (3 in my country) I take it out on the people in power. My part is called a VOTE and when we all do it together it’s called a GENERAL ELECTION.

    • Carolyne says

      Jun 7, 2016 at 8:36 pm

      I think it would be a great idea to have a “Dress like a Crusader Day.” I can see lots of room for creativity. Anything that might offend a Muslim is OK by me.

  3. Jaladhi says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 12:24 pm

    Yup, they dress like jihadis!! Grow beard and shave mustache and head – that should solve all problem at the soccer match!1

  4. WorkingClassPost says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 12:34 pm

    This is great news, all we need do to stay safe from marauding muslims,, is not wear fancy dress.

    BBC has solved the terrorism threat in one go. Surprisingly simple really.

    • Fantaesia says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 9:17 pm

      Lol

    • Dom107 says

      Jun 7, 2016 at 4:02 am

      There is a soccer team in N Ireland called Crusaders.I suppose it is only a matter of time before they are instructed to change their name to avoid offence.There is also a rugby team in England called Saracens but I don’t suppose they will not be affected. !!!

  5. Christianblood says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 12:57 pm

    (BBC warns soccer fans not to dress as Crusaders to avoid offending Muslims).

    Every day and all around the globe Western political and cultural establishment elites are favoring islam and its fanatical homicidal followers while ignoring and ridiculing the true victims of the global islamic jihad.

  6. Charles says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 12:58 pm

    “The English king Richard the First, we are told, slayed his captives while his forces “massacred” the people of Constantinople and plundered the city….”

    This is total nonsense.

    Richard the First was part of the third crusade. I do not believe that he went anywhere near Constantinople as he traveled by sea and landed at Acre.

    The attack on Constantinople happened during the fourth crusade, which was a commercial enterprise orchestrated by Enrico Dandalo, Doge of Venice. Incidentally, the crusade ended without leaving Europe.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 5:28 pm

      Charles wrote:

      “The English king Richard the First, we are told, slayed his captives while his forces “massacred” the people of Constantinople and plundered the city….”

      This is total nonsense.

      Richard the First was part of the third crusade…
      ………………………….

      *So true*, Charles. That we are getting this ahistorical claptrap from a supposedly trusted news source is utterly appalling

      And this is calumny against Britain’s *own people*–which makes it much worse than merely uncritically parroting some not entirely accurate patriotic trope.

      • Fantaesia says

        Jun 6, 2016 at 9:21 pm

        The Muslims captured Constantinople and built a mosque on the site of its great church. That is what started the crusades. Muslims seem to forget that tidbit. No other people are as easily offended or as barbaric.

        • Ver Auger says

          Jun 7, 2016 at 4:39 am

          Correction: The Ottoman Turks conquered Constantinople in 1453, long after the Crusades ended. And they did not “build a mosque on the site of its great church”, they simply seized the ancient magnificent Hagia Sophia Cathedral and converted it into a mosque by removing the crosses, icons and altars and covering up the mosaics with plaster. Oh, and they added minarets.

        • Simon says

          Jun 7, 2016 at 5:05 am

          Muslims captured Constantinople in 1453. First Crusade was in 1096. The reasons behind the first crusade are just too complex to sum up in a few sentences. Just one of the many factors was 400 years of unabated Muslim violence and conquest.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 7, 2016 at 5:06 pm

          Fantaesia wrote:

          The Muslims captured Constantinople and built a mosque on the site of its great church. That is what started the crusades.
          …………………….

          As other posters have noted, the Crusades preceded the Muslim conquest of Constantinople in 1453 by several centuries.

          But you are quite right–it was Muslim savagery–against Christian pilgrims to the Holy Land–that the Crusades were a response to.

  7. sog says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 1:04 pm

    I protest! It’s… Its… Its… offense-o-phobia.

    • Carolyne says

      Jun 7, 2016 at 8:39 pm

      Just remember that our president warned us to not “Get on your high horse” and remember the terrible things the Crusaders did. Idiot. He’s one of them. Muslim, I mean, not Crusader.

  8. Jerry says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 1:07 pm

    And someone should tell them to quit dressing as muslims and stop offending us. We’re the ones getting raped and murdered, us infidels. We’re the ones that should be offended by them, not visa versa. Oh I forgot, we’re multicultural now. We don’t have a right to be offended, not even for murder and rape by a depraved culture and religion.

    It’s funny how fast things can change. I could have swore I used to live in a free and fair democracy not too long ago. Nothing like the police state we live in today. But if you ask the left it has nothing to do with islam, we’re just living a rainy day without clouds. They use the same cheap trick on us and think it’s going to fool us. They throw all our reasoned objections and fears about islam into the magic hat and ta DAAA! out comes that same islamophobic bunny! But we’ve seen that trick a thousand times, and the result is much death and suffering by good people.

    I hope karma is true, because I do think these traitors will have a lot to answer for.

  9. overman says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 1:17 pm

    This will be the least of their problems. The other day l read that british soccer hooligans are heading for Marseille [probably the most muslim-infested place in France] to join russian hooligans in order to fight the muslims there. l don’t know if this match has taken place yet, but this is what we can expect from now on.

    Also, the BBC did another stupid thing recently:

    “BBC turns down trainees because they are WHITE: Job applicants stunned to be told corporation only wants people from ‘ethnic minority backgrounds'”.

    Full article:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3621658/BBC-turn-trainees-WHITE-Job-applicants-stunned-told-corporation-wants-people-ethnic-minority-backgrounds.html

    • Miao Zedong says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 2:46 pm

      If true than utterly disgusting. Disgusting beyond repair.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 5:29 pm

      Appalling.

    • overman says

      Jun 7, 2016 at 5:19 pm

      This is what they said today:

      “Holby City: BBC Network Refutes Report That Hiring Practices on Show Are ‘Racist’
      The Sun alleged that the BBC was racist because two scriptwriting roles on the show were only for “ethnic minority” applicants. The BBC said the roles were created to address a lack of diversity.”

  10. Lizzy says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 1:42 pm

    So these muslims are such sensitive souls that the sight of an English man dressing up with the cross of St George would send them into a fit of vapours.

    That doesn’t fit in with the global impression of islam where to be a Christian or to follow any non-muslim faith or ideology means having the head chopped off or, in the case of young women, a life of sex slavery.

    Islamics are the most hypocritical beings on earth.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 5:37 pm

      It’s not so much that “offended” Muslims are sent into a fit of the vapours–but into a fit of homicidal rage.

  11. John Marst says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 2:01 pm

    Maybe dress as Charles “The Hammer” Martel instead?

  12. OldGuy says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 2:31 pm

    You know what the EU needs to get a grip. I swear the EU is Satan incarnate. You can’t do this you can’t say that OMFG it might offend someone. Well I live in the USA and if you guys want to dress in the Crusades uniform then do just that. Offence is only in the minds of simple people that think they have privilege over everyone. Hey EU get the hell out of my countries business anyway. We have a Constitution and your laws do not count here.

  13. Walter Sieruk says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 2:33 pm

    This BBC policy of advise about not dressing up [for fun] as Crusaders is a policy of appeasement that will only be viewed by Muslim as sign of Western weakness. If this really offense them then “Tough Beans.” If far past time that they grow up get over the historic events of the crusades and lighten up , if they can, for the crusades have been over ,done with and gone for more then seven hundred years. This in no longer the Middle Ages. This is modern times. Furthermore, if at some specific events people stop dressing up in crusaders costumes out of fear offending Muslims, many jihad-minded Muslim will only start to look for something else to be “offended” about and use that as an excuse to act up in violence about. For evil is always looking for an excuse.

  14. Michael O'Neill says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 2:43 pm

    Muslims wouldn’t be offended by these costumes, because Islam preaches love, tolerance and peaceful co-existence. Right….?

  15. mortimer says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 2:49 pm

    Crusaders were the first counterjihadists. They were uneducated about Islam and without a plan, but they someone managed to stop the progress of Islam.

    I predict the Crusades will come into favor as more and more people are exposed to the misogyny and supremacism of Islam.

  16. Dum Spiro says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 3:05 pm

    If you haven’t already seen them, check out Dr. Bill Warner’s YouTube videos (search on “Why We Are Afraid” and/or “Why Are People Afraid”) to see a dynamic battle map of the crusades versus Islamic jihad. These unique presentations will be very eye-opening for all…
    — Spero

    • overman says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 5:17 pm

      Yes, that’s an excellent documentary.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 5:49 pm

      Yes–Bill Warner is excellent.

    • Jay Boo says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 9:52 pm

      Agreed that Bill Warner’s videos are excellent for content.
      However, he does come across as a bit of a grumpy old man.
      For me this style is no problem at all.

      Unfortunately, people on the Bill Maher Left might quickly dismiss his words as Islamophobic and opinionated without even considering the content.

  17. Gleaner1 says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 3:10 pm

    As you all know, the reason Robert is an American in America is because his grand parents were forced to flee their home in Turkey as minority Christians because of violence against them by Turkish Muslims .

    I believe things have got so bad now that violence in their own defense by Christians in the face of this intended anti white Christian genocide in Europe is both inevitable and justified.

    If those guys fail to wear the costume of Crusaders, the bad guys will have won – again by OUR default.

    One warning to back off and keep their hands to themselves or else.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 5:50 pm

      Gleaner1 wrote:

      As you all know, the reason Robert is an American in America is because his grand parents were forced to flee their home in Turkey as minority Christians because of violence against them by Turkish Muslims
      ……………………….

      All true, Gleaner.

  18. Champ says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 3:15 pm

    BBC warns soccer fans not to dress as muslims to avoid offending non-muslims …

    Right?

    You mean there aren’t any such warnings from BBC? Shocka!

    • Jay Boo says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 6:45 pm

      California school officials ban Trump hat

      I blame Hillary and the liberal news media for demonizing Trump and Trump supporters for this fiasco.

      • Champ says

        Jun 7, 2016 at 2:10 am

        I looove this kid!! Atta boy!!

      • Champ says

        Jun 7, 2016 at 2:27 am

        And thank you for the video, Jay Boo! 🙂

        • Jay Boo says

          Jun 7, 2016 at 11:37 am

          You are welcome
          I recall you mentioned being from California.

      • LR says

        Jun 7, 2016 at 5:11 am

        Shame on this School. Adults are totally wimping out. This was a perfect opportunity to teach the kids about one of our most important of rights, and to dialogue about political ‘diversity’.

        Wait a couple days, then go to school with a ‘Feel the Bern’ hat on. If it’s a OK., then you have a free speech case.

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 7, 2016 at 7:01 pm

        Check out this double standard–this is another California school:

        “School OKs Hispanic Students Wearing ‘Dump Trump’ Shirts”

        http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/09/ca-school-okays-hispanic-students-wearing-dump-trump-shirts-even-u-s-flag-shirts-banned/

  19. mustapha crap says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 3:24 pm

    Muslims cause me daily offence by their continuing failure to condemn the actions of their jihadi brothers and their ceaseless demands. so screw them if they are offended by British footy fans dressed as Crusaders.

    • Bob says

      Jun 7, 2016 at 5:53 am

      Agreed- absolute silence regarding the atrocities committed by ISIS from the alleged ‘moderate’ muslims but they were up in violent protest outside the Israeli embassy over Gaza! Are there any ‘moderates’ or are they terrorised by their co-cultists?

  20. somehistory says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 3:25 pm

    Just why should moslims care, since they aren’t supposed to play games or have fun?

    And we all know why the BBC is saying these things….they have moslims running the place.
    It’s going to get worse…and more nauseating…and then it will get suddenly, and immensely, better.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 5:52 pm

      Muslims don’t want anybody else to have fun, either. Especially fun that hints at resistance to Islam.

      • somehistory says

        Jun 6, 2016 at 6:16 pm

        I know, graven. I’m just so tired of them and their beastly ways, dictating with threats what everyone else is to do or not to do based on what they want.
        .
        I feel kind of like that old song, “We don’t care what Mama don’t allow….we’ll play our guitar (music/banjo) anyhow.”
        I don’t care what moslims don’t like and islam don’t allow…I plan to live my life as I choose….anyhow.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 7, 2016 at 7:04 pm

          Agreed. There is no fun in Islam.

  21. Sam says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 3:27 pm

    “BBC warns soccer fans not to dress as Crusaders to avoid offending Muslims”

    But it is OK Muslims to wear anything they want and put their women in black garbage bags and veil their faces. How more screwed can we get in the west I wonder.

  22. Dan says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 4:08 pm

    Wonder what the Arkansas Razorback supporters are going to say when they’re told to ban their logos?

    Y’all can apparently suppress Christianity but…

    But don’t nobody go messin’ with football.

  23. Cthulhu says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 4:11 pm

    Hey BBC, what about dressing as winged hussars (Polish football fans)? They didn’t committed any atrocities, they only beat the sh..t out of turkish muslim army 😉

  24. b renniie says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 4:34 pm

    f*** the bbc and f*** islam and all its followers

    • Bob says

      Jun 7, 2016 at 5:56 am

      Very well said- you choose your words carefully!

  25. mortimer says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 4:38 pm

    If you’re English, it’s now illegal to celebrate it. The flag of England is the Crusader flag.

    • Cthulhu says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 4:45 pm

      Soon it will be illegal to be English…

      • Keys says

        Jun 6, 2016 at 8:17 pm

        Soon Illegal to be English followed by illegal to be non-muslim.

      • Bob says

        Jun 7, 2016 at 6:00 am

        It already is virtually forbidden to be English. I seem to remember that England, according to Brussels, was a piece of European territory governed from Calais. Of course, I could be wrong, but the EU certainly discourages any thoughts of ‘Englishness’.

  26. Ali Bey says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 4:40 pm

    Why the media use always the locution “yihadist terrorism” instead of “coranic terrorism” since the Quran incites yihadism?

  27. Bacon lover says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 4:46 pm

    Can I wear a shirt that reads ” Allah’s dick bar”;seeing , I’m not allowed to dress like a crusader?

    • LR says

      Jun 7, 2016 at 4:40 am

      Bacon lover,

      Haha…

  28. Plamen says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 5:06 pm

    And who will warn the muslims not to look like muslims in order to avoid offending
    the hated non-muslims…

  29. Mark says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 5:09 pm

    Were can I get one of those?

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 6:10 pm

      You can get them from most well-stocked costume shops, Mark–or make your own.

      They range in cost from simple costumes from about $30 to well over a thousand for the really fancy ones (prices in US dollars; I’m sure prices in England are comparable). A quick Google search reveals scores of outlets.

      • Robert Spencer says

        Jun 6, 2016 at 10:13 pm

        Get yours now. Very soon they will likely go the way of the Confederate flag.

        • Cynthia in California says

          Jun 7, 2016 at 3:23 pm

          There will always be sewing machines! Heh heh

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 7, 2016 at 7:10 pm

          Scary…

  30. Lizzy says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 5:10 pm

    We are continually being warned that Islamic attacks could take place in France during the Euros and the BBC comes out with this pathetic crap thus portraying the muslims as victims!

    The BBC are pushing for conflict.

    • Charli Main says

      Jun 7, 2016 at 2:01 am

      A French convert to Islam has already been caught with a sack full of explosives. that he had planned to use, to blow up a soccer venue.

    • Simon says

      Jun 7, 2016 at 5:16 am

      Any attack that occurs can now be blamed on ‘fascists’ wearing crusader uniforms. It’s a typical trick of the Establishment. Before any violence occurs setup your ‘fall guys’.

  31. gravenimage says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 5:14 pm

    BBC warns soccer fans not to dress as Crusaders to avoid offending Muslims
    ………………..

    Well, *of course* dressing us as someone who defended against violent Jihad is going to offend supremacist Muslims. The question is, why should we care? Seems to me that is all the more reason to do it.

    Go England!

    • G P says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 11:26 pm

      Wear your outfits everyone. They are trying to kill you anyway, costume or no costume.

      • Carolyne says

        Jun 7, 2016 at 8:43 pm

        When it comes to wearing a chastity belt, I’m gonna pass.

  32. overman says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 5:41 pm

    Of course, this is the English Flag of St George. Paul Joseph Watson has a good rant about it in the vid below:

    England Bans Its Own Flag to Avoid Offending Muslims.
    Government officials in Bristol claimed that their city is too ‘multicultural’ to celebrate St. George’s Day.

    The council claimed that flying the flag could be seen as offensive and ‘racist’ to non-English people.
    Back a few years ago, a town straight up banned the cross because it could have offended the town’s 16 (yes, just 16) Muslim residents.

    https://youtu.be/mTlr0707vLU

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 7, 2016 at 7:13 pm

      This is how crazy things have gotten:

      “English Patriots ‘Too Embarrassed to Fly Own Flag'”

      http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/10/07/english-patriots-too-embarrassed-to-fly-own-flag/

  33. berserker says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 5:46 pm

    What is not said is what would happen were some Muslims to be offended by the costumes. If one were to follow the standard line, Islam being a religion of peace, Muslims would not react to such a “provocation”. But the BBC fears something else entirely.

  34. Wellington says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 6:10 pm

    Up next respecting a warning from the BBC: No longer should be displayed the Union Jack flag because it has on it the cross of Saint George for England and the diagonal crosses of Saint Andrew and Saint Patrick representing Scotland and Ireland respectively. And we all know what Muzzies think of crosses, now don’t we? Yes indeed, we dare not offend Mo’s followers.

    But when in the hell have Muzzies EVER not done something because it might offend non-Muslims? My God how pathetic are those who run the BBC. Shame on the wusses.

    • Jay Boo says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 9:20 pm

      BBC is no doubt consulting with David Cameron and London’s new Muslim Mayor about redesigning the Union Jack flag.

      Wouldn’t it be surreal if BBC were next to lecture Obama about the White House?
      After all, the White House Iron fence appears to be multiple crosses side by side.
      The White House windows have multiple panes rather than a more politically correct cross-free single pane.

      • Charli Main says

        Jun 7, 2016 at 2:06 am

        Yes, JB. The Union Flag will soon have the middle bit cut out and replaced with a star and crescent. .

  35. R Cole says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 6:39 pm

    They won’t be happy until all of western history is gotten rid of and replaced by a souped-up politically correct Islamic one.

    Any honest account of Islamic history is discouraged – and reason being – you might be attacked.

    So the bright idea is to give in and hope this list of Islamic demands doesn’t get larger.

    ::

    The Muslim world is still smarting over the loss of Spain and the Crusades!

    What strikes me about this whole ‘inclusive’ effort is there is no has been no attempt to teach Muslims tolerance – outside of staying away from engaging in terrorism – from Muslims nothing is required.

    Get over it!!

  36. jman says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 7:10 pm

    Muslims better not dress in their burkas then because I’ll get flashbacks to terrorist bombers and be offended.

  37. Angemon says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 7:48 pm

    The BBC has warned English football fans not to dress as crusaders when attending the Euro 2016 tournament this summer as they might cause offence to Muslims.

    Well, so f***ing what? Oh, yeah, almost forgot the soft bigotry of low expectations – the BBC must take as a given that muslims are akin to animals and unable to control themselves and therefore it is incumbent on civilized non-muslims to do it for them. Don’t kick the dog, poke the bear or dress as a crusader because the dog might bite you, the bear might maul you and a muslim might attack you in revenge for something done almost 1000 years ago to people he probably has no national or ethnic links to by people you probably have no national or ethnic links to.

    Digging deeper into the history of the crusades, the website depicts crusaders as “wading ankle deep in blood, killing civilians and resorting to cannibalism,”

    Staples of the islamic narrative about the crusades, very likely added centuries after the event, and growing increasingly horrific after each retelling.

    although it admits that accounts of such actions “may have [been] exaggerated,”

    No kidding! Ya think?!?!?!

    while a source

    Which source?

    is cited describing the leader of the Muslim forces, Nur ed-Din as “a just prince, valiant and wise, and according to the traditions of his race, a religious man”.

    What race was he?

    Anyway, I’m waiting for the day the BBC – or any other MSM for that matter – warns muslims not to dress in islamic garments, shave their moustache, pray in the streets or use arabic names because it might be offensive to people whose countries were ravaged by muslims. I’m just not going to hold my breath or bet any money on it…

    • Charli Main says

      Jun 7, 2016 at 2:10 am

      Saladin was a ” wise and noble prince” ?? Don´t make me laugh. Saladin was a mass murdering Muslim piece of shyte like all his other ” wise and noble ” countrymen.

  38. Pete says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 7:49 pm

    lol – you think they’d know their target audience a little better. If you don’t want football fans to do something, the LAST thing you do is tell them to not do that something!!!

    Chances are they just increased the number of people that will dress as a crusader!! They’re a defiant bunch, not the type to swallow all your PC garbage.

  39. garegin says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 8:21 pm

    A sophisticated argument could be made that while the crusades were a millitart counteraction against a relentless jihad, the europeans who joined in the fight were not trying to defend their homes but were out for money. In many ways it’s true. Many peasants were looking for promised land in the newly created principalities.
    Also the question is why they were trying to liberate jerusalem if they’re goal was to help the byzantines. A more sensible plan would have been to liberate the occupied european areas before going to the levant.

  40. Wolf says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 8:38 pm

    DEUS VULT!

  41. Hope says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 8:44 pm

    “…the word “crusade” has powerful negative connotations in the Arab world, which could potentially open fans up to being targeted by extremists.”

    To me, the most infuriating aspect of this warning from the BBC is the implication that, if you choose to wear the crusader outfit and you are attacked by muslims, you deserve it. Of course, there is never any warning issued to muslims, reminding them that violence is illegal and immoral and will not be tolerated. What a f***ed up world this has become. I hope plenty of young, brave men will wear that crusader emblem and stand up to these bullies. Fight back, England!!!!

  42. Jay Boo says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 9:08 pm

    Muslims warned:
    not to hold Muslim prayers at National Cathedral to avoid offending Christians.

    Muslims say “Screw You” to Christians,
    — and do it anyway.

    Freaky Friday inside National Cathedral
    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/11/national-cathedral-to-host-muslim-prayer-co-sponsored-by-hamas-linked-cair-and-isna

  43. citycat says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 10:29 pm

    How about stop waging Jihad to avoid killing or offending Heathens, Zoroastrians, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Jews, Pagans, The Godless, Wiccans…
    Islam either offends or is offended.
    Insults or is insulted.
    All is ok then Islam turns up with it’s sneaky street wisdom, and the rest is almost history

    There is NO middle ground
    No freedom
    No individuality so Islam’s universality is compromised, it’s not like there is only one type of tree over Earth.
    There is a natural limit to all things.
    Islam is anti variety, anti earth, anti nature, anti compassion, halal is suffering to the animal i heard.
    Islam? What’s that?
    Humanity caught.
    Islam is Islam when all the muslims have passed on.
    Islam has really nothing to do with Muslims, no particular Muslim is at fault.
    They’ve no choice, they were born into it.
    The writers of the Qur’an are involved.
    Why write that stuff?
    For God?
    Even the Godless can see that’s toss

  44. GeorgeRomero says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 3:01 am

    Just thought the JW readers would like to check out my Rugby Club.
    We live & breath Crusaders Culture and woe betide any muzzie or leftist scum who tries that pc crap with us.
    http://crusaders.co.nz/crusader-for-life

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 7, 2016 at 7:17 pm

      Excellent!

  45. Bear Tom says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 4:42 am

    GeorgeRomero, Unfortunately for you, your country has just opened its borders to 2,700 Syrians. You can be sure there won’t be many Christians amongst them. You will now have the duty to face them in person. Look what they are doing in Australia. Your turn now. Winston Peters seems to be the only person left in Government with any sense.

  46. Bear Tom says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 4:47 am

    They polarize, then cause havoc and destruction. That’s all they seem to be good at.

  47. LR says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 4:50 am

    Looks like the BBC unwittingly put out a big fat notice for all the crusaders to don the outfit en masse! ! ! ! ! !

  48. FatherJon says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 4:51 am

    One thing for sure, after the Beeb made such a cowardly request more than usual English supporters will be dressing as their favourite crusader character.
    I’d opt for a Richard Couer de Lion outfit myself just to cast up to the Beeb that they don’t speak for courageous Englishmen.

  49. No Fear says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 4:52 am

    I am offended by the Quran. It is, in my opinion, a stinking pile of supremacist garbage. Will any one stop muslims from printing it?

    • Carolyne says

      Jun 7, 2016 at 8:53 pm

      Every Muslim offends me so I think they should all commit suicide.

  50. Ver Auger says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 5:05 am

    “Crusaders were the perpetrators of violent attacks across Europe and the Middle East on Muslims, Jews and pagans.” This opening statement omits the massacre of Orthodox Christians by Catholic Crusaders in 1204 during their brutal sack of Constantinople, which weakened the Christian Byzantine Empire and contributed to its eventual fall to the Ottoman Turks.

  51. TheOldOligarch says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 5:54 am

    ”Because, of course, that culture is spent, and weak, and confused, and anxious to appease a much more confident alternative culture that regards the Crusades as an affront.”

    I’m rarely astounded by the depth of Robert’s insights anymore, as I’ve gotten used to it over time. That though, is the best summation of the situation as I can remember reading.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 7, 2016 at 7:18 pm

      Yes.

  52. Baucent says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 6:27 am

    The guy in the sunglasses looks like Tommy Robinson of the English Defence League. Maybe it is? That would be a little embarrassing Robert as they seems to be out of favour.

  53. Kim Bruce says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 7:09 am

    Offend Muslims? Who…? Moi?
    Whenever I get the chance.

  54. Randall says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 8:15 am

    Such sad BS going on all over the world. I hope we in the US can stem the tide. God I hope a President Trump can make a difference! But I fear it’s too late in the game. Prognosis: not good.

  55. DockyWocky says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 8:24 am

    Poor muzlims, being attacked by these wild-eyed, vicious crusaders when they did nothing to deserve this kind of mayhem.

    So goes the latest pro-islam story coming out of Muzlim Propaganda Central.

  56. Roha Waha says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 8:35 am

    I love it ! I would have loved to have worn a Crusader Outfit when I was in Iraq !
    Rock On Men Of Britain !

  57. Florida Jim says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 10:02 am

    Do not give in muslims are looking for any reason to kill infidels so do not give in do as you wish and make they obey your laws, or leave.

  58. John A. Marre says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 10:23 am

    They don’t seem to care about offending us. They come in to our lands and rape our women, set fires, destroy, and cut our heads off.

  59. duh_swami says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 10:32 am

    A Crusader without sun glasses is out of uniform…

  60. Raja says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 10:54 am

    What is BBC that it should warn some who value their tradition? For all the garbage it is churning out through half truths and concocted lies it has assumed the role of an arm of state. It has been cooking stories for far too long about how Crusaders ruined the east-west relations realizing little that crusades were invented and implemented by Muslims and its unholy prophet.

    If Islamist can be proud of an evil religion why shouldn’t some have fun in their own land?

    Isn’t it absurd and stupid that BBC is dragging a once super power to slavery?

  61. b.c.terry says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 11:14 am

    Don’t do it?

    All the more reason to stand up and do it to defy the ongoing radical P.C. to stomp on our freedom and free speech.

  62. b.c.terry says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 11:21 am

    Correction,

    defy the ongoing radical P.C. “efforts”

  63. common sense says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 2:46 pm

    I hope Muslims don’t like it they live in a state of victimization anyway. I’ll be ordering my chain mail and Templar robe tonight.

    “Extremists in France may be offended”. Really? The BBC admits that ISIS is in France over this. Really? Islamofacism was not completely exposed in France and rooted out after Nov 15 2015 with 160 dead?
    “The BBC warns” Really?

    BBC= Muslim appeasement= Muslim mayor of London= soon to be PM of Britain= Britain controlled by Islam. = British people are pussified watered down homogeneous facsimiles of what they used to be. Just like most San Fransicko’s.

  64. Geppetto says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 3:23 pm

    The source of the quote, “if you tell a lie often enough it becomes the truth” is in dispute (Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Goebbels,…) but its timeless accuracy is not. The infidel world is inculcated with the notion that “Islam is a religion of peace,” another, perpetually and repeatedly expressed lie that has achieved a universal truth status that has and continues, to blind the non-Muslim world. Other widely accepted lies are, Islam is a race and Muslims are the victims and not the perpetrators, of vilification, racism, retaliation and violence.

    The success of this obfuscation, propaganda strategy cannot be denied. With a very few Muslim Jihadists, dressed in western garb and schooled on western culture, firmly established in positions of influence in the UN, politics, academia and the media, the alphabet soup of subversive, Muslim Brotherhood organizations, CAIR, ISNA, MAS, MSA, IIIT, etc. have mesmerized and rendered incapable of rational analysis, nearly the entire non-Muslim world. No? Take a clear minded, objective look at American and European attitudes concerning Islam and Muslims, coming up on 15 years after the worst terrorist attack on American soil, ever, 9/11, perpetrated by 19 individuals, all from the Middle East; 15 of 19 from Saudi Arabia, one Lebanese, one Egyptian and two from the UAE (http://www.fairus.org/issue/identity-and-immigration-status-of-9-11-terrorists)

    The official position of America as of today? All references to Islam, Muslim organizations or Muslim individuals, in connection with terrorism, have been intentionally scrubbed from law enforcement documentation that concerns terrorism. Much of the impetus for this purge has and is being promoted by Muslim operatives ensconced within the halls of power in Washington, DC (https://counterjihadreport.com/tag/fbi-document-purge/). And in New York (http://www.city-journal.org/html/see-no-islam-hear-no-islam-14091.html)

    Self defeating madness.

  65. Keys says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 5:07 pm

    OK, no Crusader costumes. But could we dress up as Indiana Jones?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3I_Ds2ytz4o

  66. Aaron says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 5:21 pm

    Well said!

  67. Donald J Dunn says

    Jun 8, 2016 at 12:11 pm

    To Hell with the pro-islam liberal press – they are invaders pure and simply!

  68. Pong says

    Jun 8, 2016 at 5:30 pm

    Isn’t it football is haram. Moslems are known to be killed for watching it.
    I like football. I browse football sites, since like in many aspects of our life, msm is avoiding difficult questions and pushes propaganda.
    To my surprise, on the blog called “Untold Arsenal”, I came across an article, praising football fans for welcoming refugees and displaying banners during the matches.
    I sent a post, pointing to increase of crime correlated to numbers of refugees. Not only it wasn’t published, but I was immediately band from the site.
    Recently, 16 fans (fortunately moslems) were killed for watching The European final. I sent email to the management, pointing out that such situation should be at least make a news on the blog. To my surprise, I have recieved a reply, in which among other incoherent jibberish, they don’t find such thing as beiing a newsworthy.
    It is an english based site. Dimmitude is so deep in England, there’s no way out.

  69. Keys says

    Jun 8, 2016 at 7:02 pm

    I like football too, Pong. In your situation, though, since muslims are likely to be killed for watching football, I would wear a bullet proof vest, sleep in a bomb shelter, buy weapons and security surveillance, and if you can afford it, hire kafir security guards.

    Like some of us on JW have done. You’d be surprised how ready many of us are.

  70. SuchindranathAiyerS says

    Jun 9, 2016 at 12:25 am

    BBC, that voice of the US-NATO-Sunni Axis joins its sister organization to prate pro-Saracenic propriety in order to appease rapists, murderers, cattle rustlers sex slavers, vandals and worse by religion.

  71. Andy says

    Jun 12, 2016 at 12:29 am

    They want bacon adding to costume

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