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Brexit wins! Cameron to resign as UK votes for independence

Jun 24, 2016 9:47 am By Robert Spencer

That the Leave vote spells the end of the reign of the vicious appeaser Cameron is an unexpected bonus on top of an equally unexpected vote for British independence. The problems with the EU are many — one was succinctly summed up in this story: “Islamist hate preacher, terrorist apologist and Caliphate agitator Anjem Choudary supports Remain because ‘there are certain principles and caveats’ in EU law that offer ‘recourse’ to Islamist radicals.”

Indeed: the UK was unable to deport open jihad terrorists, in tandem with Cameron pursuing a policy of appeasement and surrender, reflecting a society-wide neurosis that had British officials covering up the activities of Muslim rape gangs for fear that arresting and prosecuting them would be “racist” and “Islamophobic.” In observing all this from afar, I have many times pronounced Britain in danger of imminent death, but this vote demonstrates that there is life in the place yet.

It’s very clear this morning how much the EU means to Islamic supremacists and their sinister agenda: scanner Twitter just now, I see the likes of Hatem Bazian, Ingrid Mattson, Qasim Rashid and Dean Obeidallah lamenting the vote and sneering at the British as “racist” for voting to leave the EU. How could leaving a failed conglomerate of declining states be “racist”? Why, because these Islamic supremacists know full well that is a significant setback to their hopes of overwhelming the West with Muslim migrants, bringing Sharia and jihad with them. The Sharia project has been set back. But by no means halted.

It will be a rocky ride, but against all odds, there is still hope for freedom in Britain.

David Cameron

“EU referendum live: Boris Johnson hails ‘glorious opportunity’ of Brexit as David Cameron resigns,” by Kate McCann and Laura Hughes, Telegraph, June 24, 2016:

David Cameron has resigned as Prime Minister after Britain voted to leave the European Union.

It followed a turbulent night with Remain campaigners quietly confident until the early hours when results from Newcastle and Sunderland showed better than expected returns for the Brexit camp.

A surprise victory for a Brexit in Swansea, which was expected to vote to Remain, did little to dampen concerns despite Scotland overwhelmingly backing staying in the Union.

Other votes in Wales began to show a trend towards a surprise Leave vote, particularly in deprived communities.

Big wins for David Cameron’s campaign in London and Oxford did little to allay fears that early predictions had been wrong, as the pound began to tank – down by 6% by around 1pm.

Leave passed the finishing post just after 6am, as it became clear that nothing could swing the vote back in favour of the Remain campaign.

With the Leave campaign securing 52 per cent of the vote, Mr Cameron addressed the nation in an emotional speech outside 10 Downing Street to announce that he would be stepping down.

Statements are expected to be made by Sinn Fein and the SNP later today calling for a breakaway from the Union. London backed Remain but the turnout was lower than expected because of bad weather.

Meanwhile on the market, the FTSE 250 index has plunged a whopping 11.7pc. The index of so-called mid-cap companies had dropped an astonishing 2,017 points to 15,309 in the first few minutes of trading.

Vladimir Putin said Britain’s vote to leave the EU reflects growing concerns about immigration and security.

Speaking to reporters in Tashkent, the Russian president also said the vote is a response to unhappiness with Brussels bureaucracy.

But he condemned David Cameron for accusing him of backing Brexit, saying the British prime minister’s warning that leaving the EU would please the Kremlin was “the lowest level” of politics.

“We followed this with close attention, but we did not in any way influence it and made no attempt to do so,” Mr Putin said in comments carried by Russian media.

“The British prime minister’s comments ahead of the vote, in which he announced the Russian position, had and has no basis.” he said. “I think that was an inappropriate attempt to influence public opinion.”

Mr Putin said Brexit would have both “positive and negative” consequences for Russia and the rest of the world, but that he expected markets to stabilise from the initial shock.

“Life will show us whether there are more plusses or minuses,” he said.

The investment bank Morgan Stanley is already moving as many as 2,000 members of staff overseas to Frankfurt and Dublin, according to the BBC.

However, a Morgan Stanley spokesperson has denied the claims.

US Vice President Joe Biden said the Obama Administration had wanted Remain to win but respected the decision of the British people.

In the first public reaction by a senior US government figure Mr Biden said: “I must say we had looked for a different outcome.”

Mr Biden, speaking in Dublin, added: “The United States has a long-standing friendship with the United Kingdom and that very special bond will endure. We fully respect the decision they have made.”…

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  1. Kessler says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 9:53 am

    I have renewed respect for the British and renewed hope that not all is lost.
    Now, let’s have a referendum in my home country Denmark and neighboring Sweden – they need the OUT vote more than the UK as EU fascists keep threatening them to abolish border checks to sustainable the failed Schengen zone.
    A big day today!

    • jihad3tracker says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 10:20 am

      Hello Kessler — See my comment (at 10:07) below about Denmark. And by the way, the brilliant Pat Condell video below (posted by Eduardo Odraude at 9:58 AM) is one of his best.

      Pat has done many others with expertise, facts, mordant humor, courage. David Wood is our American truth-telling equivalent — about The Religion Of Ending Up In Many Pieces.

    • Celtic says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 11:41 am

      I as a Swiss citizen cheer for Brexist – now let us bring down this dictatorial wannabe empire called the EU.

      • Ex-muslim says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 12:13 pm

        Cameron is a corrupt fag, let him rot in hell!

        • Angemon says

          Jun 24, 2016 at 6:22 pm

          Rabidly anti-Western and now homophobic – are you sure you’re an ex-muslim?

        • DFD says

          Jun 25, 2016 at 5:27 am

          Angemon: “…are you sure you’re an ex-muslim?”

          Hi Angemon,

          This guy is a taqyian through ‘n through. Like his pal ‘African Infidel’. Just read a few of their posts. If they are ex- or anti Muslim, the tooth fairy will solve my dental problems. Also, ever noticed, where one or both of these characters appear, ‘CB’ isn’t far – or is it the other way round?

        • Angemon says

          Jun 25, 2016 at 1:36 pm

          As far as I can tell, DFD, it’s the other way around. And it’s been escalating. First it was just “christianblood” (who apparently, despite claiming to be a devout Christian, never read the 9th commandment or Matthew 15:18-20) spewing vitriol against the West and singing praises for Russia. When he started getting called out, “Ex-muslim” started popping up to tell how everything that CB wrote was 100% factual truth. And when “Ex-muslim” started getting called out on his “I’ll cheer when the West is destroyed by muslims”… well you can imagine the rest.

          Oh, and there’s also what I call the “translation brigade” – users who usually stay in the background only to go “oh, he doesn’t really mean that he wants the West to be destroyed by muslims, he’s just a poor, little inocent guy venting his rage at the sad state of affairs in the West today”. I’d say that everyone here who is not a muslim apologist is not happy with the current state of affairs. Well, how many of those people want the West to be destroyed, whether by muslims or by any other mean? My guess is none – at least no Westerner.

        • Christianblood says

          Jun 25, 2016 at 12:56 pm

          Angemon

          Just as Western liberal elites invented and use the term “islamophobia” to silence the critics of political islam Western posmodernist moral relativist elites invented and use the term “homophobia” to silence and scare religious people, especially Christians in the West who believe homosexuality is a sinful life style.
          Are you aware of this, Angemon?

        • Angemon says

          Jun 25, 2016 at 1:52 pm

          Christianblood posted:

          “Angemon

          Just as Western liberal elites invented and use the term “islamophobia” to silence the critics of political islam”

          You serial lying, Westernphobic, paid Russian troll. Citation needed. And you’ll never provide any because what you wrote is demonstrably false:

          Now here’s a point you might deeply consider: The neologism “Islamophobia” did not simply emerge ex nihilo. It was invented, deliberately, by a Muslim Brotherhood front organization, the International Institute for Islamic Thought,

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/11/how-the-term-islamophobia-got-shoved-down-your-throat?doing_wp_cron=1466876698.0235838890075683593750

          Now here’s a point you might deeply consider: The neologism “Islamophobia” did not simply emerge ex nihilo. It was invented, deliberately, by a Muslim Brotherhood front organization, the International Institute for Islamic Thought

          Recant what you said and apologize for lying.

          “invented and use the term “homophobia” to silence and scare religious people”

          Citation needed.

          Oh, BTW – your buddy EM is still rabidly anti-Western and homophobic – are you sure he’s an ex-muslim?

        • Angemon says

          Jun 25, 2016 at 2:10 pm

          P.S.: what’s this “political islam” you’re rambling about? More evidence that you know little, if anything, about islam – your goal here is to spread anti-Western disinformation.

        • DFD says

          Jun 26, 2016 at 8:31 am

          Christianblood says on June 25, 2016 at 12:56 pm

          “Angemon …. Just as Western liberal elites invented and use the term “islamophobia” ….and use the term “homophobia” to silence and scare religious people, especially Christians in the West ….Are you aware of this, Angemon?”

          To Christian..??..whatever:

          Incredible. You ought to go into politics, well, you probably are. What you typed in your response as above has absolutely NOTHING to do with what Angemon wrote in his response to me on June 25, 2016 at 1:36 pm.

          I am aware of the craftiness of obfuscation and deflection, but you are taking it to a new height. Phenomenal. You simply talk about something completely different and unrelated as a reply. The taqyians and the ‘kitmanies’ could learn from you.

          Have you ever considered staying with the subject matter raised? And if not, stating, confirming that you are off-topic? Besides, others would consider that to be polite – give it try.

        • Christianblood says

          Jun 26, 2016 at 1:29 pm

          DFD

          I thought you were a good Christian chap when I read some comments in which you quoted scriptures earlier but you now seem to be defending the cheap (homophobia) charges that Angemon is playing against me and another commenter and I am wondering where you stand on my saying that “homophobia” as a tool invented and used by postmodern liberal elites to silence religious Christians who still believe homosexuality is a sinful lifestyle. Where do you stand on this, DFD? Do you believe these scripture verses below are “homophobic” as many postmodernist, pro LGBTQ liberals believe and teach: Below are the specific scriptures I am talking about:

          In Genesis 19: 6-7 God calls homosexuality “Wicked”.

          In Leviticus 20: 13 God calls homosexuality “Detestable”.

          In Leviticus 18:22 God calls it an “Abomination”.

          In Romans 1:26-27 God calls it “Shameful”, “Unnatural” and “Lustful”.

          In 1Timothy 1:9-10 God lists it as one of the MAJOR human sins.

          In St. Jude 1:7 God calls it “Perversion”.

          In 1Corinthians 6:9-10 God lists it as one of the major dis-qualifiers for entering into the “Kingdom of God”.

          How do you characterize these holy scriptures that I shared with you above, DFD? Are they homophobic as your Buddy Angemon would probably say?

        • Angemon says

          Jun 26, 2016 at 1:48 pm

          Christianblood posted:

          “DFD

          I thought you were a good Christian chap”

          The saying goes “it takes one to know one”, and you’re not one – you’re a terrible Christian, if you’re even one to begin with.

          “ but you now seem to be defending the cheap (homophobia) charges”

          Truthful charges. Do you

          “that Angemon is playing against me and another commenter ”

          I pointed out that you *lied* – i.e., bear false witness – when you claimed “islamophobia” was a Western invention. You might want to address that instead of trying to derail the conversation away. Recant what you said and apologize for lying.

          Oh, and you’re lying again: anyone reading my posts can attest that I said EM – who stated that Cameron should rot in hell for being a “fag” – was ” homophobic” in addition to “rabidly anti-Western”. You never denied that. Because you can’t. Instead, you asserted something regarding the origin of the term “homophobia” so you could conflate it with the term “islamophobia”. I asked you a citation for the alleged origin of the term “homophobic” and I proved you were lying about the origin of the term “islamophobia” ? Where’s the citation? Why won’t you recant your lies? Does being a “good Christian” involve being a serial liar?

          Now, in which of my posts here am I accusing you of being homophobic? That’s right, none – the serial liar strikes again.

          Also, DFD accused you of deflection and obfuscation – and, in your reply, you never address what he said. You made and proved his point.

        • DFD says

          Jun 26, 2016 at 2:29 pm

          To Christianblood

          Who says: “DFD…I thought you were a good Christian chap when I read some comments in which you quoted scriptures earlier…” Etc bla bla.

          Yes I am! No problem with the Bible nor with what the Bible says (to 99.99999…%, disagreement is in the transliteration or interpretation by ancient/medieval scholars).

          But that’s not, nor was it, THE issue!
          ============================

          The issue is your constant deflection and obfuscation, instead of sticking to the point!
          —————————————————————————————————————–

          Example: THIS VERY conversation. Angemon and I were referring to your constant hatred and relentless anti western propaganda, to put it mildly. Where ‘anti western’ refers to any body not a member of the (Russian) orthodox church. That means all Christians in the west – in addition to other confessions and atheists of course.

          Did you respond thereto? No! Instead, you ignore the subject and obfuscate as well as deflect by blarring out, in a hyped up manner, about homophobia. Something which neither I nor Angemon give a damn about, nor spoke about.

          Stick to the issue! If you want to change subject, then conclude the issue and announce that you want to change subject; then ask if the party concerned is interested, or at least have the cordiality to proclaim your believe that the party concerned is interested in the subject matter, that you wish to raise for discussion, or to comment upon. But first of all:

          STICK TO THE SUBJECT MATTER, THE ISSUE!
          ======================================

          Can’t you get that into your head?

          It is because of this that Angemon, myself, and probably a few others, feel so dubious about you.

          Try to answer this, otherwise, don’t bother.

          With cordial greetings
          (for the sake of maintaining civility)

        • Christianblood says

          Jun 26, 2016 at 3:11 pm

          DFD

          Angemon jumped on a commenter and called him “Rabidly anti-Western” and a “homophobic” to which I responded by stating that fact, which is (Just as Western liberal elites invented and use the term “islamophobia” to silence the critics of political islam Western posmodernist moral relativist elites invented and use the term “homophobia” to silence and scare religious people, especially Christians in the West who believe homosexuality is a sinful life style), and in support of Angemon, you jumped on me, DFD,
          and said “I am aware of the craftiness of obfuscation and deflection, but you are taking it to a new height” and I wondered, since you call yourself a Christian, what makes you accuse me of those things when I was just defending the teachings of the Bible concerning homosexuality in responding the false “homophobic” charge that Angemon called the another commenter?

          All the comments are still there and you can read them again if you wish to. Now, if you believe biblical teachings on homosexuality are all valid, which I personally do, why do you need to defend someone who thinks that Bible teachings on homosexuality and those who believe those teachings are all “homophobic”?

          Remember the words of Jesus, DFD, when He said:

          “If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this ADULTEROUS and SINFUL generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his Father’s glory with the holy angels.”

          (St. Markos 8:38).

        • Angemon says

          Jun 26, 2016 at 3:31 pm

          Christianblood posted:

          “DFD

          Angemon jumped on a commenter”

          In the same sense you “jump” on me when you reply to me – or anyone else to replies to anyone here is “jumping” on them. Oh, and that commenter is quite familiar to you, consider the number of times he “jumped” on other to defend you and you “jumped” on others to defend him.

          “and called him “Rabidly anti-Western””

          Probably has something to do with him stating, several times, that he considers the West to be his enemy and that he’ll celebrate when the West falls to muslims – facts that no one will ever hear from you, considering that EM is a fully-fleged member of your cicle jerk. How many times has EM “jumped” on me to assure me that whatever it is that you wrote is 100% true and factually correct? I lost track of them.

          “and a “homophobic” ”

          Probably related to his openly hostile attitude toward homosexuals

          “ to which I responded by stating that fact”

          You haven’t stated a single fact, starting with your baseless assertion that “islamophobia” was a Western-created term – an assertion I proved to be false, although it won’t stop you, a troll paid to spread anti-Western propaganda, to repeat it.

          “which is (Just as Western liberal elites invented and use the term “islamophobia” to silence the critics of political islam Western ”

          See above – like I said, it’s a lie, and if you were even remotely honest you’d acknowledge you were wrong, apologize and recant. Do you act like a good Christian and do that? No, you repeat the lie. Because you have to earn your pay-check.

          “and in support of Angemon, you jumped on me, DFD,”

          Again with the loaded language and narrative-building – it’s not that you lie and obfuscate, it’s that DFD “jumped” on you to “support me”. And again, I don’t see a refutation of what DFD said, just a flurry of crap throwing, like a monkey with its feces.

          “responding the false “homophobic” charge that Angemon called the another commenter”

          See above – the other commenter is someone you’re very familiar with (even though you’re trying to act as if you don’t know him) and you have a history of defending one another no matter what, and he’s shown to have a hatred of homosexuals. In which world is wrong to say he’s homophobic, in addition to being, like you, rabidly anti-Western?

          P.S.: you still need to recant and apologize regarding the origin of the word “islamophobia” – it was the creation, not of the West, but of a muslim think thank:

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/11/how-the-term-islamophobia-got-shoved-down-your-throat?doing_wp_cron=1466876698.0235838890075683593750

          Now here’s a point you might deeply consider: The neologism “Islamophobia” did not simply emerge ex nihilo. It was invented, deliberately, by a Muslim Brotherhood front organization, the International Institute for Islamic Thought

          P.P.S.: again, are you sure EM is am “ex” muslim?

        • Angemon says

          Jun 26, 2016 at 3:34 pm

          Also, CB, what’s this “political islam” you speak of? There’s not such thing as “political islam”, there’s only islam.

        • Christianblood says

          Jun 26, 2016 at 8:51 pm

          Angemon posted

          (Also, CB, what’s this “political islam” you speak of? There’s not such thing as “political islam”, there’s only islam.)

          You are right Angemon! It is only islam and I sincerely apologize for blindly following the Western invented terminology known as “political islam” you got me there and you are right. It is just islam! Thanks!

        • Angemon says

          Jun 26, 2016 at 9:03 pm

          Christianblood posted:

          “the Western invented terminology known as “political islam””

          Citation needed.

          Also, you *lied* – no less than two times – about the origin of the term “islamophobia”. Recant and apologize. Oh, and your buddy EM – are you sure he’s an “ex” muslim?

        • Angemon says

          Jun 26, 2016 at 9:08 pm

          P.S.: what are the odds of someone as Westernphobic as you using, repeatedly, a term allegedly coined by the West you so openly revile and despise?

      • John says

        Jun 25, 2016 at 12:09 am

        Celtic Frost is awesome.

    • Diana says

      Jun 25, 2016 at 9:26 pm

      Thank you for your good wishes. I burst into tears when the final result was in and then sat down with my son to have a cup of tea. (He doesn’t like hot drinks, but he agreed to make an exception on this very special occasion.) Saturday was my birthday. I had the best present ever.

      We are not out of the woods yet. Some politicians are set on delivering us a Pyrrhic victory. But we are very conscious of the support we receive from the Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, France, Italy, Austria, Hungary, the Czech Republic (I hope I didn’t forget anyone) and, yes, from the dear Germans who do not support the policies of their dictators.

  2. concerned canadian says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 9:53 am

    SHUT UP BIDEN !!!!!!!!!

    Like your opinion matters you turd

  3. Alissa says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 9:54 am

    Can it be? Have we turned the corner? Let’s hope and pray this is the start of finding our way back!

  4. eduardo odraude says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 9:58 am

    Good news.
    This was Pat Condell, explaining before the vote why Brexit — BRitish EXIT (from EU) — is the right thing:

    • Will Doohan says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 12:39 pm

      In parts of that , he seemed like he was describing America.

    • Dom1 says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 6:27 pm

      Excellent Pat. We won the vote for Leave .Now the shackles are off(or soon will be) lets make UK as prosperous as Switzerland and as free from the Islamic threat as Hungary

      • wallace says

        Jun 25, 2016 at 6:37 am

        Yes indeed Dom, as i watched the video i was struck by how much i was struck by the similarities with Islam .Millions of inane rules and laws like fatwas..

  5. eduardo odraude says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 10:01 am

    Time for Anjem Choudary to be deported. Or better, keep him, since he explains very honestly how evil he and Islam are. Instead, deport his less articulate buddies.

    • Dazed & Confused says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 3:14 pm

      How do you deport a man born in the U.K.?…..Although if the British government gave him back his passport he claims that he would happily flee to the “Islamic state”….He up on terrorism charges soon, so there’s no chance of that occurring in the near future.

      • JMB says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 6:02 pm

        Two simple principles will need to apply here;
        1, If your allegiance is with Islam you are deported to an Islamic nation.
        2, Commit a crime based on Islam, your whole family, at least 3 generations and 1st cousins are deported.

      • Lee says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 8:57 pm

        You can deport a man born in the UK if you pass legislation stripping citizenship from those supporting terrorists, and deport the offender to a country where he either has dual citizenship by way of foreign parents, or can access citizenship in the country of his parents or grandparents.

        This is the law proposed in Australia, which has the majority backing of voters of *all* parties, including Greens voters (the most Islamic-friendly political party here). See http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-10/lewis-woods-the-citizenship-plan-was-a-populist-pitch/6535372 for an article at the Jihad-friendly ABC online.

        This is the way forward for us here in Australia to deport almost all Muslims, since Muslims follow an ideology of Jihad and terrorism.

        • G P says

          Jun 25, 2016 at 11:08 am

          An excellent proposal. If they embrace their hateful ideology so much then let them enjoy total immersion in an islamic state.

  6. Diane Harvey says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 10:03 am

    The Brexit referendum isn’t self-enforcing because it isn’t legally binding in and of itself. Changing the laws that brought the UK into the EU remains (no pun) in the hands of Parliament. To enforce the Leave vote the Leave campaign will need the ACTIVE, AFFIRMATIVE votes of a majority of MPs to disentangle the countless laws and treaties, Don’t count on Leave happening.

    “They’ll be punished at the next election!”

    Oh please.

    • Face_The_Truth says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 10:28 am

      What you’re saying holds true in the United States Congress as well where Paul Ryan Republicans do not like and will not support American people’s votes for businessman Donald J. Trump.

      British Parliament may still stick to the European Union treaties against the will of 52% British voters!

      • Diane Harvey says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 10:59 am

        52% ain’t no mandate. It’s a win true enough; but a really frail one. The barriers yet to be encountered from the Ruling Class, most notably those in Parliament (their Labour is as bad as our Democrats; and their Conservatives ain’t nothing of the sort) will be formidable.

        Stating to your local MP, “You must vote for this law repealing the 1972 entry into the forerunner of the EU because 52% of us voted for Brexit,” just ain’t gonna cut it.

        • mortimer says

          Jun 24, 2016 at 11:35 pm

          Diane is right. The MPs will have an uphill battle.

        • DFD says

          Jun 25, 2016 at 5:42 am

          You are right, quite apart from the fact that in The Commons the pro-Euro brigade has a comfortable majority. I think in The Lords are about split 50.

          Further, there’s a petition heading rapidly toward the 100k mark to re-run the vote. Farage is heavily quoted on his statement that if the remain campaign wins by a small margin, that wont be acceptable. Obviously, the shoe’s now on the other foot.

          The show may not be over yet.

    • Linde Barrera says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 11:09 am

      To Diane Harvey- As per your 10:03 am post of June 24, 2016, I have no doubt that you are right. However, the citizens of Great Britain have spoken with their vote to leave the EU. Now those citizens have to use their voice and prevail upon their parliament to construct a new framework, both economic and political, to disenfranchise themselves from the EU. It can and must be done! Then Great Britain will truly be freer and more prosperous than they have been in a long time. God bless Great Britain. PS- It is one thing to have a common currency for Europe, but it is quite another for those EU so-called “leaders” to dictate what countries to trade with, how many “refugees” to take in, and what thugs cannot be deported back to the hell-holes they came from.

      • quotha raven says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 2:29 pm

        To Linde Barrera, who says “… It is one thing to have a common currency for Europe…”

        Does the UK use Euros? Last time I was there, they were still using British Sterling and Scottish pounds.

        Cheers!

        quotha raven

    • Westman says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 12:59 pm

      It’s estimated that it will take two years to fully disengage the UK from the EU. But it will happen, the Pound Sterling will recover, and appreciate as the EU deals with insoluble social/economic problems that came with the migrants.

      No doubt it was the inability to control immigration into the UK that turned the vote. Every new terrorist attack in the EU will further solidify the resolve to exit the EU.

      • Thankful Leaver says

        Jun 25, 2016 at 11:34 am

        No we don’t.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 6:34 pm

      Diane Harvey wrote:

      The Brexit referendum isn’t self-enforcing because it isn’t legally binding in and of itself. …Don’t count on Leave happening.

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 6:40 pm

        Sorry: cat on the keyboard. Here’s my intended post:

        Diane Harvey wrote:

        The Brexit referendum isn’t self-enforcing because it isn’t legally binding in and of itself. …Don’t count on Leave happening.
        …………………………….

        Diane, you are quite right that Brexit is not legally binding. But I don’t believe that Britain is so far gone yet that they can ignore a vote like this.

        Cameron has already stepped down.

        If Boris Johnson becomes the next PM (not a sure thing, I realize, but his position looks good) he will surely wish to follow through. But *any* new Prime Minister will have a hard time ignoring this, since it will be the reason they will come to power at this time.

        Of course, the EU itself may decide to punish Britain, either out of general mean-spiritedness or as an example to others–but I think things have gone to far for this to work without other EU members taking a very jaundiced view of things.

  7. awake says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 10:04 am

    Now, hopefully, watch the European dominoes begin to fall.

    • Hindu American says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 11:15 am

      The more immediate dominoes to tumble will be Scotland and Ireland (united). I also predict that that many of the “Remain” voters will likely move to Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland (just like many liberals and leftists who have promised to move to Canada if Trump is elected). England will remain standing on its own.

      • William says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 12:05 pm

        No more fairy tale United Kingdom? So sad. Booohoohooo!
        Sarc!

      • quotha raven says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 2:41 pm

        Interesting and insightful, Hindu American. I’ll bet you are right.

        Cheers!

        quotha raven

      • Wiser Monkeys says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 4:26 pm

        Sorry, but the evidence disagrees that Scotland ‘will tumble’ like a domino. Nicola Sturgeon is quickly threatening another independence referendum for Scotland because her more rabid nationalist supporters demand that “something must be done”. But, a binding legal referendum would require the consent of the UK parliament first. This is very unlikely to be easily granted since the 2014 referendum was so recent and the result against independence so clear.

        Further, if Scotland DID vote again, this time for independence, it would NOT fulfil the conditions for EU membership: it has a huge deficit (the worst in the EU); would have to impose punishing austerity measures; establish a central bank; would have to adopt the euro as currency; and have to join the Schengen zone. All exceedingly difficult to sell to an already sceptical and weary electorate.

        Lastly, it is highly likely that EU member states such as Spain and Italy would veto or severely delay Scotland’s membership of the EU. They have regional independence factions (such as Catalonia), and they do not wish to encourage the break up of their own countries.

        Scots do NOT have a huge love of the EU. Many voted to remain in the EU because they were scared of the SNP holding another independence referendum. Also, the ENTIRE political establishment in Scotland was relentlessly pro-EU; very few anti-EU voices were heard.

        It is vital too to note that:
        In the 2014 independence referendum, 2.00m people voted AGAINST independence. In the 2016 EU referendum, only 1,66m people voted to REMAIN in the EU. The democratic priority lies with the former.

        • quota raven says

          Jun 24, 2016 at 6:57 pm

          Edifying comment Wiser Monkeys – Thank you for these sound arguments why Scotland may NOT jump on the Secede UK and Stay EU bandwagon. It is difficult for outsiders to assess the strength of the SNP and to gauge the Scottish political subtleties and leanings without being there. Or a regular reader of The Scotsman, perhaps.

          I didn’t know Scotland was so financially busted, nor that ” the ENTIRE political establishment in Scotland was relentlessly pro-EU;”

          Cheers!

          quota raven

      • Richard says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 5:15 pm

        Liberals expatriating themselves as some sort of a protest to a turn in the right direction hardly sounds like a bad thing to me.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 5:27 pm

        so far as I can see, the Welsh went with the English in voting OUT.

        • overman says

          Jun 24, 2016 at 7:24 pm

          “A surprise victory for a Brexit in Swansea, which was expected to vote to Remain, did little to dampen concerns despite Scotland overwhelmingly backing staying in the Union.

          Other votes in Wales began to show a trend towards a surprise Leave vote, particularly in deprived communities”

          Yes, they were very surprised about Wales supporting ‘Leave’ in a big way. Obviously, the welsh are the only Celts you can trust – Northern lreland [southern lreland didn’t vote] and Scotland are traitors. And what can be said about all those bastards in Gibraltar voted ‘remain’.

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 7:16 pm

        Hindu American wrote:

        The more immediate dominoes to tumble will be Scotland and Ireland (united). I also predict that that many of the “Remain” voters will likely move to Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland (just like many liberals and leftists who have promised to move to Canada if Trump is elected). England will remain standing on its own.
        ……………………

        With all respect, Hindu American, I don’t see this happening. I do not foresee a flood of Englishmen decamping for Scotland and Northern Ireland, lovely places that nonetheless have much weaker economies than does England.

        As for Wales, Dumbeldore’s Army is quite right:

        “EU referendum: Welsh voters back Brexit”

        http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36612308

        In fact, they voted for it in almost the numbers that England did.

        As for Americans decamping to Canada in any numbers, this hasn’t really happened since the Vietnam War, when some draft dodgers headed north.

        Liberals *always* threaten to leave if a Republican is elected. I remember being surprised as a college kid that not one of the people who declared that they were fleeing if Ronald Reagan was elected did so.

        • Hindu American says

          Jun 24, 2016 at 10:06 pm

          I respect your opinion, gravenimage. Perhaps time will tell.

      • Carolyne says

        Jun 25, 2016 at 2:04 pm

        Every time we in the US have a Presidential election, some celebrity Democrats say they will move to Canada if the Republican wins. I have noticed that they never do. Too bad.
        But will Canada welcome the trash from the US who cannot abide the democratic process and threaten (An empty threat as nobody cares if they leave) to go there? Canada, you are welcome to them but please do not think we wish to exchange Trudeau for them.

        • Western Canadian says

          Jun 25, 2016 at 4:59 pm

          Canadians will be mixed in their response: A good number did NOT welcome draft dodgers. The self proclaimed ‘elite’, will of course be over the moon about even a trickle adding to their ranks.

  8. jihad3tracker says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 10:07 am

    INDEPENDENCE FEVER HITS BIG — CITIZENS OF ITALY, DENMARK, HOLLAND (and one more country I cannot remember) ARE ALREADY REQUESTING THEIR OWN REFERENDUMS.

    Do a Google search find out just how huge this tidal wave will become. As a 67 year old ancient geezer, I see the Brexit vote as the beginning of a transformed Europe, and the most important event in the last 50 years.

    • William says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 12:07 pm

      Angela Merkel is soiling herself.

      • Alissa says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 4:51 pm

        Good. I’m glad. Her dismissive attitude reminds me of Marie Antoinette. Germany should do a “French Revolution” number on her and her water carriers.

        • Western Canadian says

          Jun 26, 2016 at 7:31 am

          The view offered about Marie Antoinette, as a spoiled rock star etc., is NOT based on history. It would appear that she was the absolute opposite of what has been assumed of her….

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 7:23 pm

      I hope Brexit shows other European nations that they can jettison the EU, as well.

      I have to admit, I didn’t think this would happen so fast. I thought most would wait a bit until the British economy stabilized. But I think I underestimated the frustration with the high-handed EU.

      Some pundits opined that Europeans in general would be enraged at Britain, seeing this as a rejection of Europe in general. This does *not* appear to be the case.

      • Rufolino says

        Jun 25, 2016 at 8:17 am

        The people who are enraged at Britain are the very fat cats in Brussels, who don’t like their schemes being upset.

        The spitting and snarling from the spiteful and overpaid European bureaucrats has only just started !

        They are absolutely TERRIFIED of a domino-effect wrecking their comfortable livelihoods, so they will make the UK’ s departure as painful (and humiliating) as they possibly can. You will be astonished by the charm of European bureaucrats…!

  9. Mike Ramirez says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 10:15 am

    And, now, America should follow a similar path and exit from the United Nations – an entity that promotes the globalist agenda for a one-world government and has been an enormous financial drain on American taxpayers.

    • Linde Barrera says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 11:14 am

      To Mike Ramirez- As per your 10:15 am post of June 24, 2016, I agree with you. Down with that stupid and useless United Nations! The US should get out of the UN and appropriate the money previously given to the UN to a special US training fund for young people to teach them new job skills and critical thinking college courses. God bless the US.

      • Angemon says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 11:53 am

        Linde Barrera posted:

        “The US should get out of the UN and appropriate the money previously given to the UN to a special US training fund for young people to teach them new job skills and critical thinking college courses.”

        Critical thinking? But what about their poor, little hurt feelings and safe spaces? 😉
        I say to have Milo Yiannopoulos write the syllabus 😀

        • Carolyne says

          Jun 25, 2016 at 2:09 pm

          I have long thought that the UN should be invited (Forcefully) to leave the United States. The majority of money used to run this nest of anti-American gnomes comes from the US. We could put that money to better use, perhaps beefing up the Border Patrol and giving them permission to do the job for which the agency was formed. The real estate could be developed into tax-paying apartments, hotels, stores, etc.

          As one of our former UN Ambassadors said, “We will be at the dock to wish them a fond farewell.”

    • Will Doohan says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 12:44 pm

      Agreed! The UN is useless and a waste of money. The US should pull out, kick them all out of New York, and tear down the building.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 7:26 pm

      Yes–give the UN an eviction notice. These sneering anti-Western creeps are taking up prime real estate in Turtle Bay.

  10. Angemon says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 10:16 am

    But he condemned David Cameron for accusing him of backing Brexit”

    Huh, why? That’s exactly what he did. In fact, Moscow has been, for years, meddling in other countries’ politics, always supporting anti-Europe parties, both on the right and left. Trying to argue that he was not in favour of Brexit makes as much sense as trying to claim that Marxism and Communism were never a part of Russian history.

    saying the British prime minister’s warning that leaving the EU would please the Kremlin was “the lowest level” of politics.

    Lowest level? Ah, that’s right – Putin doesn’t handle inconvenient truths very well. I don’t see him denying that’s what he feels.

    Mr Biden, speaking in Dublin, added: “The United States has a long-standing friendship with the United Kingdom and that very special bond will endure. We fully respect the decision they have made.”

    What other choice do you have, you cretin? Bear it with your best s***-eating grin.

    • Linde Barrera says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 11:18 am

      To Angemon- As per your 10:16 am post of June 24, 2016, I think you caught on to the nuances of Putin and Biden. Your writing and thinking are very clear and correct, and I love your posts–all of them. Take good care and stay brainy, Angemon.

  11. duh swami says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 10:21 am

    The emasculated have regained their goads…It remains to be seen if they have regained potency…

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 7:30 pm

      Yes–a first step only, APF. But an important one.

  12. wallace says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 10:23 am

    I voted leave, i pondered Obama’s threat that by doing so it would mean Britain would be put to the back of the queue for US trade deals, not realy,why would i pay attention to someone who i would struggle to find anything he had accurately forecast?

    • WorkingClassPost says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 10:31 am

      If not signing TTIP is the what he’s talking about, then that’s as good a reason for leaving as any.

    • Angemon says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 10:43 am

      wallace posted:

      “I voted leave, i pondered Obama’s threat that by doing so it would mean Britain would be put to the back of the queue for US trade deals”

      Obama won’t be the US president for long – I’m certain that whoever succeeds him would go back on it.

      • quotha raven says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 2:19 pm

        To Angemon and wallace –

        Obama immediately tried to strong-arm Brits into voting against Brexit by threatening them, like an extortionist. I heard him say this with my own ears. Not a good plan, it turns out, coming from a little shit who sent back the bust of Churchill. A slimy, deceitful street thug. That’s what he is. Can’t wait to see the back side of him.

        Cheers!

        quotha raven

        • Richard says

          Jun 24, 2016 at 5:23 pm

          “Can’t wait to see the back side of him.”

          Available in a Chicago bath house in a few months.

        • Angemon says

          Jun 24, 2016 at 6:26 pm

          XD

        • Angemon says

          Jun 24, 2016 at 6:23 pm

          Indeed, and may he be the last Democrat President of this millennium.

        • Carolyne says

          Jun 25, 2016 at 2:12 pm

          He is all the things you said, Quotha Raven, and also a Muslim.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 7:33 pm

      Here’s the disgusting Obama threatening patriotic Britons:

      “Obama infuriates the Brits as he threatens to send UK ‘to the back of the queue’ if they vote to leave the European Union”

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3553788/Obama-flies-Brexit-storm-President-faces-furious-backlash-downright-hypocritical-decision-tell-British-voters-stay-EU.html

      I apologize to all Brits on behalf of America. I didn’t vote for him (either time), and this lame duck will be out of office soon enough no matter what happens in November.

      • Carolyne says

        Jun 25, 2016 at 2:20 pm

        Someone said on
        TV and I agree, that the speech Obama made while in England must have, in part at least, been written by Cameron. Americans do not generally say “Queue.” We say “The end of the line.” But on the other hand, he isn’t an American, but an Indonesian Muslim. I don’t know how they would say it.

  13. Don McKellar says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 10:27 am

    Don’t cry for David Cameron. His moslem masters will reward this faithful dhimmi well. Perhaps even more generously than Barry bin Obama when he ends his reign.

    • Face_The_Truth says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 10:41 am

      Prime Minister David Cameron is a Christian Conservative British politician who is quite similar to Christian Conservative Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany.

      • quotha raven says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 2:11 pm

        To Face_the_truth – who sez “Prime Minister David Cameron is a Christian Conservative British politician who is quite similar to Christian Conservative Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany.”

        Except he resigned.

        Cheers!

        quotha raven

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 7:38 pm

        David Cameron is only “Christian” and “Conservative” in the most superficial sense…

      • Western Canadian says

        Jun 26, 2016 at 7:41 am

        Anyone capable of stating that Angela M. is a Conservative and Christian… is either an unmatched master of sarcasm, or hasn’t the faintest bloody idea of what either term entails….

  14. WorkingClassPost says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 10:27 am

    Not sure what Putin’s got to do with all this, a vote against suicide is usually best for all concerned.

  15. quotha raven says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 10:28 am

    This is such a wildly unexpected and thrilling development. Just yesterday evening polls in UK showed that Brexit would lose by 8 points.

    I haven’t been this happy about a political development since…well, not for decades.

    God Bless the Queen! That old darling!

    Cheers, Your Majesty!

    quotha raven

    • JMB says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 5:58 pm

      And long live the Pound Sterling, may Great Britain be great once again and to everyone else out there, remember the Royal Navy, the most formidable fighting force on the planet.

      And a more general thought. The EU was established so that the 2 great wars of the 20th century would never happen again, possibly a good idea but the EU grew into an evil empire, almost as bad as the UN. Britain was never part of Europe and never will be. Traditionally Britain was much closer to nations such as Australia, Canada & NZ and those links still exist despite all the attempts of the EU to destroy them.

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 7:42 pm

        I loved the idea of the UN when I was a child–until by degrees I realized that it was run by those who hate the free West.

        The EU *could* have been a good idea–but that its un-elected and and high-handed officials have instituted policies that will lead to the suicide of the great nations of Europe means that its time–if it ever had one–is, or should be, past.

        • quota raven says

          Jun 24, 2016 at 9:48 pm

          Graven – Too true. Time for EU has passed, for the reasons you give. Especially the “unelected” part. Someone here – Richard, I believe – said that EU is slowly becoming a carbon copy of the Soviet Union.

          And the UN started out with lofty ideals, but it has become a sewer of anti-western thought and action, and a vehicle to install the dreaded, pernicious, atrocious New World Order! Reminds me what a rich, poetic language “esperanto” is! Sarc Off.

          Cheers!

          quota raven

  16. Issa says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 10:28 am

    Do not hold you breath – the policy of appeasement is to be continued no matter what and with the possible exodus of Christian Eastern Europeans, the UK is on a course to become more Muslim than ever.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 7:46 pm

      This is not the time to counsel despair.

  17. blitz2b says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 10:33 am

    The question is ” Will Britain become great again”, once it has broken off the shackles of EU bondage?
    Good on you Brits,…. You are taking your country back again, it will be a steep road ahead but it can be done…. nay sayers be dammed.

    • William says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 12:12 pm

      I like that. Make Britain Great Again.

  18. underbed cat says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 10:34 am

    This was not just a wake up call for the Cameron group, it will bring attention to the the U.S. about what Britain experienced after massive migration, refugee population replacement and what happens in a country that allows the influence of a terrorist ideology in as a religious entity and hands over the power
    and removes freedom of speech and denies or is ignorant of a doctrine that arrives with the hidjra.
    .

  19. WorkingClassPost says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 10:37 am

    This goes beyond seismic, the British and Euro media have not yet recovered.

    I just hope WWIII hasn’t actually started, because we wouldn’t know for about a week, at this rate!

  20. biff says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 10:39 am

    congratulations to the UK on screwing the UN progressive elite.

    You have shown the world there is an option to being endlessly manipulated by bureaucrats and charlatans.

    • quotha raven says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 2:06 pm

      Hear, hear, Biff!

      Cheers!

      quotha raven

  21. quotha raven says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 11:19 am

    “Other votes in Wales began to show a trend towards a surprise Leave vote, particularly in deprived communities. ”

    I heard on Fox radio news last night at around 1am Pacific time, when the vote had been decided, that Wales had only 15 votes for Brexit. Early this morning, I heard Fox radio news report that it was 16 votes in Wales for Brexit. Do you think they could have got it backwards? Or did you?

    I’m going to look it up. Will report what I find, for those who are interested in Wales.

    Cheers!

    quotha raven

    • quotha raven says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 11:24 am

      Well, JW is right. Can’t imagine why they reported what they did on Fox radio last night. Bizarre. Here’s the real story, at least numerically:

      “854,572 (52.5%) voters in Wales chose to leave the EU, compared with 772,347 (47.5%) supporting Remain.”

      Cheers!
      quotha raven

      • Richard says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 7:11 pm

        I think they reported as they did in their attempt to sway the remaining vote. A drowning man will clutch for straw.

  22. Phil Horaia says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 11:32 am

    Don’t get your hopes up. Repeated referenda have been known:

    http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2015/10/19/asking-the-public-twice-why-do-voters-change-their-minds-in-second-referendums-on-eu-treaties/

  23. Sam says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 11:38 am

    I cannot believe how clueless you are with your enthusiasm. If there is a Brexit (referendum is NOT legally binding), the UK jihadists might indeed lose the protection of the EU courts but what they gain is 2million Christians go back to Eastern Europe (it’s the Leave camp’s main pledge).

    Jihad wins either way.

    • quota raven says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 4:53 pm

      To Sam, who says “…what they gain is 2million Christians go back to Eastern Europe (it’s the Leave camp’s main pledge). ”

      Could you please expand a little? Who are the 2million Christians? Do you mean that the Leave camp wants to deport Christians, not Muslims?

      Cheers!

      quota raven

      • Richard says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 7:19 pm

        I think what Sam is referring to is the number of Western liberals who are threatening to self-expatriate when a democratic vote doesn’t go their way. That’s my take on the comment, anyway. In the US where the indigenous still hold sway it’s an empty threat, if not a welcome outcome. In states where the Muslim population is more dangerously high that eventuality could be harmful. Most likely the liberals making this threat are just blowing smoke to be heard.

        • Carolyne says

          Jun 25, 2016 at 2:26 pm

          Usually the celebrities who threaten to leave the US if a Republican is elected are people like Whoopi Goldberg, Joy Behar and Cher. Do we care?

    • Sarony says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 5:27 pm

      The EU immigration that caused so much upset has been down to the sheer numbers migrating to a small land mass in quick time, many of whom have no job to go to or have no intention of getting a job and live off the generous GB welfare which the EU would not permit GB to withhold. Health and education infrastructures are creaking under the strain.
      However, flagging up EU migration was, to some extent, something of a smokescreen so as not to appear racist. The big angst among the Brits is mass immigration of ghettoised Muslims, mostly from the Commonwealth and which has nothing to do with the EU; apart, of course, from the thousands of Somalis who headed for GB once they got their Dutch passports. And that’s the real fear – how many more thousands now claiming refugee status in EU countries would be eligible to transfer to Britain once they got their EU passports.
      My gut feeling is that an accommodation will be reached for the indigenous Europeans who have settled families and have jobs in GB so there will be no problem for them to stay.

      • quota raven says

        Jun 25, 2016 at 3:26 am

        To Sarony who says “My gut feeling is that an accommodation will be reached for the indigenous Europeans who have settled families and have jobs in GB so there will be no problem for them to stay”

        Sir – Good grief. Are you being super-sardonic here? Or what? RFLOL, as they say!

        Cheers!

        quota raven
        .

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 7:49 pm

      The idea that with Brexit all EU citizens will be summarily deported is, with all respect, absurd. More counseling of surrender.

  24. Lesley says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 12:47 pm

    This is so hopeful!! Down with the dhimmi EU, up with British and Western values!

    May Cameron get the same treatment those poor school girls got at the hands of Muslim rape gangs…

    Victory for truth! Victory for the civilized world! Vote for Trump, he’s our best hope 🙂

  25. Mirren10 says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 1:58 pm

    I am absolutely, deliriously, elated ! As for the doomsayers and professional pessimists up above, ( why do these wankers always want to rain on a parade ?) I think you’re full of crap.

    Any Parliament that attempts to ignore this out vote will find itself in **big** trouble, and they know that.

    Over the last few weeks, I’ve done a lot of canvassing for Brexit ( as well as stuffing envelopes etc 🙂 ) and what came across *very* clearly were people’s concerns over untrammeled immigration, and the fact they we were basically in the grip of a huge, corrupt, unelected structure, which held, and holds, us and our sovereignty in contempt.

    Lots of people also told me what decided them to vote leave was the pusillanimous behaviour of camoron, and his pathetic attempts to renegotiate with the EU, and how he came back here with his tail between his legs, having achieved nothing. His attempts to push Turkey’s membership of the EU, also his, and the remain group’s obvious and deliberate scaremongering, and threats, which have clearly put people’s backs up. (Quite a few were also incensed with that wanker Obama sticking his nose in, and threatening us. 🙂 )

    It’s going to be a turbulent few months, and a *lot* will depend on who we get for PM now camoron’s resigned. The ideal team would be Nigel Farage and Paul Weston, but realistically we’ll get Boris Johnson. Let’s hope he proves to have a spine.

    Anyway, I’m not going to be cheated out of some well deserved euphoria today, so piss off to the couple of depressants who couldn’t resist spitting on it. FU. Calooh, callay !

    • Champ says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 2:32 pm

      I share in your happiness, Mirren10!! Congratulations, and indeed this is *fantastic* news! Happy dance! xo, Champ 😉

      • Mirren10 says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 5:18 pm

        Happy dance, Champ ! 🙂 🙂 I do love you ! You are such a wonderful example of a Christian. If I was able to believe, you would be my lode star. Love you, sweetheart. XXX

        I wasn’t able to keep my eyes open for the final count, but my husband did. He woke me this morning with the triumphant shriek, ” We’re out” !! Then we had pancakes and syrup, and **mimosas** !!

        I’m not stupid enough to think this is the end of it – the elites will circle the wagons and do their very best to negate the vote. They can’t bear to be deprived of the gravy train. There will be many who will do all they can to negate this vote; I just hope to God that Nigel Farage will be one of the warriors. Woo Hoo !! Pray for us, Champ.

        • dumbledoresarmy says

          Jun 24, 2016 at 5:41 pm

          Mirren – I have a suspicion that, whilst you and your husband were enjoying your celebratory pancakes and syrup for breakfast, there was a similarly celebratory breakfast taking place in Buckingham Palace.

          I have observed a few ‘analysts’ wailing about how the oldies voted OUT and the youngest voters voted for ‘REMAIN”, and how horrible it is that all those ugly old people were so mean and nasty as to go against the wishes of the youngest. What *that* tells me is that the oldest people who have experienced both conditions – not in EU, *and* in EU – have weighed up those two sets of experiences, and determined which they prefer (which is one reason why I suspect Her Majesty, too, was sceptical of the EU). The oldest voters, also, were – in their distant youth – far less propagandised than the youngest ones, or else have learnt, in the course of their lives, how to *see through* propaganda. Interestingly, and I think this also may illuminate the IN and OUT votes, the very astute French lay theologian and sociologist, Jacques Ellul, who wrote a book about propaganda, insisted that it was the *intellectuals*, the educated class, *not* the ‘less educated’ ‘common people’, who were most likely to be fooled by propaganda, (Which is sort of the opposite way around to what many suppose).

        • Champ says

          Jun 24, 2016 at 6:21 pm

          Dear Mirren10, thank you sooo much!! I love you, too, dear friend!! Yum “mimosas” ..Cheers!! 😀 And yes, I will be praying for you, too!

          Take care! XO

    • quota raven says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 3:28 pm

      What a completely delicious comment, Mirren10, and I’m so delighted to see you feeling “absolutely, deliriously, elated”!

      Me, too! I haven’t been this happy about any UK action since the Beatles…no, just kidding…since Margaret Thatcher came on the scene. I was living in Scotland at the time, and was just crazy about Margaret.

      Thank you for yours. There’s nothing like a real, boots-on-the-ground report. Really, really the best info: original source material!

      Cheers!

      quota raven

      • Mirren10 says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 6:02 pm

        Dearest quotha, thank you so much for your comment..

        Maggie Thatcher. What a woman, and more importantly, what a statesman. I didn’t agree with everything she espoused, but what I loved about her was her courage, and her refusal to kowtow to what was expected of her. She didn’t have any truck with PC/MC crap. She had guts, Maggie, and integrity. May the earth lie lightly on her grave. And no, I don’t think she was perfect, or immune from polotician’s disease. But, in a generally toxic environment, she managed to stay relatively clean.

        And, do you know, I’m absolutely convinced that **integrity** is what tripped up the meretricious scumbags who deliberately lied to us, and deliberately tried to scare the pants off of of us. As I said, I spent several weeks canvassing people., I listened to what they had to say. The most common comment I heard, was along the lines of; ” How stupid do they think we are’ ? , ”How can camoron lie to us, with a blank face”. ”How can camoron tell us he’s on our side, when he want’s to bring millions of Turks into this country”, ” How can we live in this country with millions of people who hate us and everything we stand for ?”

        *Every* single person I talked to, no matter else what they might disagree with, were *united* in stating their hatred of **lying* politicians. It would seem that people are finally demanding some truth and integrity from politicians !!

        Now, are the politicians going to respond to these demands ? Probably not. But at least we’ve shown them they can’t fuck us over indiscriminately, all of the time !

        Lan Astaslem !

        • quota raven says

          Jun 24, 2016 at 7:32 pm

          Very interesting, Mirren10, about the consistent complaints you heard about immigration and lying politicians from those whose doors you knocked on.Not surprising, though. Common sense has not been completely wiped out by the politically correct/diverse culture set.

          Sounds, in fact, pretty much like home(Oregon, USA) to me! I think the same sentiments and sensibility prevail here, and they are behind the wild success of Trump.

          Take care of yourself, my dear, and thank you for your ever-interesting comments here.

          Cheers! (wish I had a mimose, right this very minute!)

          quota raven

        • quota raven says

          Jun 24, 2016 at 7:36 pm

          Mirren10 – Just looked up your closing…lan astaslem (Arabic: لن استسلم ) is an Arabic phrase meaning “I will not surrender”.

          Excellent! qr

    • Angemon says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 4:13 pm

      All I can say is:

      • Richard says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 7:52 pm

        Roger Waters has a great many disgusting and unthinking liberal opinions. He is a big fan of Islam as a culture. I love Rock and Roll but entertainers who think they are pundits are simply annoying. Take Bruce Springbean, love his older stuff, but I whish he would STFU, lately he thinks he is Pete Seeger incarnate – just at the time we DON’T need commies preaching to our youth. John Lennon, meh he was great in the Beatles but after Yoko he used his fame as a bully pulpit to beat us all over the head with “Give Peace a Chance”. I’m much more a fan of peace through superior firepower. Ted Nugent…not my favorite rocker, but one with his head screwed on straight.

        Here’s an idea, lets NOT hold hand and sing Kumbaya hoping it will fix anything.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 7:55 pm

      Mirren, I join Champ and DDA in congratulating you and all your hard work here! Glad to hear that so many patriotic English are finally alarmed about Muslim immigration.

      As you note, there is still a long road ahead, but with good Britons like you on the job, I am *quite* optimistic for the first time in a long time! Huzzah!

  26. TheOldOligarch says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 2:50 pm

    It’s been a long hard road but we’re here. The dawn has broken and the nightmare is over. Britannia will be free once more.

    I stayed up watching the coverage live and wept when we won.

    • quota raven says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 4:05 pm

      Dear Old Oligarch – I’m an American who deeply loves England and Scotland (yes, both! And the USA as well))) and sometime during the middle of last night (I am in Pacific coast time zone) as the votes were about 75% counted and Brexit had a small lead, I heard the British anthem, with an orchestra and chorus. I burst into tears. Instantly. God love you all! And Bless the Queen, too!

      Cheers!

      quota raven

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 8:03 pm

      Bless you, OldOligarch!

      Like Quotha, I was tracking the vote here on the West Coast of the US. So glad to hear the news around eleven o’clock last night.

      My mother was British, and I have an aunt and cousins in England. We all owe our freedoms to the mother country. Hoping the UK can begin to reclaim her freedoms, and serve as a beacon for the rest of Europe!

  27. scherado says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 3:37 pm

    EU law is immutable?

    What difference will “Leave” make? Britain–as it exists, barely more than in name only–has a much more serious problem. How long ago did we begin declaring Britain as “gone”? I doubt the Nation can be resuscitated, much less saved by choosing exit.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 5:57 pm

      Brexit is *not* a panacea–but with resolve Britain can now hope to begin to stanch the unregulated flood of Muslims into their civilized society.

      And Britain exiting could be a beginning for other European nations to follow their lead, so they do not have to submit to EU mandated quotas of invading Muslim migrants. Staunch Anti-Jihadist Geert Wilders of the Netherlands wants to see this happen:

      “First Brexit, then Nexit? Netherlands’ Geert Wilders calls for referendum”

      http://globalnews.ca/news/2783859/first-brexit-then-nexit-netherlands-geer-wilders-calls-for-referendum/

      • Mirren10 says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 6:57 pm

        Yes, graven.

        What we need is *resolve*.

        No more of these soggy teddybears, and candle vigils, flowers, people weeping, and all of the rest of the crap that refuses to accept what * really* happened.

        It’s about time we, all of us, said we’re not having it any more.
        l

        As dda said, lets finally get some fires in our belly!!

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 24, 2016 at 8:04 pm

          Hear, hear, Mirren!

      • scherado says

        Jun 25, 2016 at 8:22 am

        It’s settled then; are we to congratulate the inventors of nuclear weapons for solving the problem for which the EU formed?

        From europa.eu (<=link):

        “1945 – 1959 […] The European Union is set up with the aim of ending the frequent and bloody wars between neighbours, which culminated in the Second World War.”

        From britannica.com (<=link):

        The EU represents one in a series of efforts to integrate Europe since World War II. At the end of the war, several western European countries sought closer economic, social, and political ties to achieve economic growth and military security and to promote a lasting reconciliation between France and Germany.

        (A similar statement is found at telegraph.co.uk (<=link).)

        When I sought references to EU's origin, I thought that I would find a reference to the problem of Nationalism; "ending…wars between neighbours", "to integrate Europe" suggest but are not explicit. These descriptions are an understatement of the problem for which the EU was created. The West was on it's last gasps until the moment the atom bombs were used and were, subsequently, pointed at Russia–as it became the West's greatest problem after Japan surrendered. I do not mean that the West is no longer dying: it's death–or descent into active, violent, widespread chaos–is likely to occur prior to launched nuclear weapons, unless Iran (fill-in-the-blank with Islamist regime) possesses such weapons.

        The thing about the EU is that it was created to address a very real and imminent problem–a moribund Western Civilization, in which Nationalism was identified as conducive of perpetual war and destruction. What's wrong with this idea as a solution? It can't work with unethical people occupying leadership roles and when the root causes aren’t identified: Nationalism is a symptom.

        This Agnostic believes that irreligiousity–read “killing Christianity” without replacement–marks the beginning of the death of Western Civilization. It was and is an error to blame religiousity for the reason of the “frequent and bloody wars between neighbours.”

        Let’s not forget that Liberals both here and there embrace what is their essential, fatal flaw: the social perfectibility of the Species by members of the Species.

        From page 289, Cold Friday, by Whittaker Chambers, mid-1950s; (Below, “matured evil” refers to Communism.):

        …the philosophy of optimism and perfectibility of man, acting under his own power, are delusions and lead to disasters. But the philosophy of optimism and perfectibility make the climate of our time, and all the Left and much of the Right share the common delusion. Hence their common fury against anyone who points to the delusion and says: “Caveat!”
             “Life is pain” must be one of the oldest cries wrenched from man’s experience. It challenges many quiet assumptions of our daily life. It does not say that man should not try to make his life on earth as happy as possible. It says that if, while doing so, he fails to know that life in its sum is inevitably tragic, he will court, at last, a judgement of disaster. That is the point perhaps on which we stand as a nation. Our happiness is taking vengeance on us, for our obsession with it has left us children in the face of the most matured evil on human record. [Bold is mine.]

        It’s easy to substitute Islamic Supermacism for Communism as “the most matured evil” under the expectation that we won’t be able to stop the Islamists before they wrack-up a half-dozen millions of murders.–though we know that it is a “matured evil” far short of a future of tens of millions murders. We who are not of the Left have four major problems: The suicidal, blind, misguided Leftists, the Islamists, the ignorant or silent non-Islamist Muslims and, most importantly–as here lies the potential for solutions–we who can’t conceive of any effective solution.

  28. UriahB says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 4:13 pm

    Was in bank 2day. In front of me was a woman in burka, Im assuming of the muslim faith. Well, she had a stack of euro banknotes. Changed 2 dollars. Hmmm. Wont Alla be amused.

  29. linnte says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 8:55 pm

    I received a pitiful article from Clarion Project this morning titled “good bye Friend” about Cameron’s CHOICE to step down. He surely didn’t have to do that. But true to the trend toward”victimology” in Britain, he has. I made comment to Clarion that Cameron was in full support of the Islamisation of the West with his refusal to see how immigration policy gave access to Britain by Jihadis. I also told them, as I usually do, that Clarion still does not “get it” that as long as Qur’an has sura supporting Jihad, their stand is just a ploy to keep people MISINFORMED and hopeful that Islam can be peaceful.

    • quota raven says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 10:16 pm

      To Linnte – I agree with you about Clarion, but not about Cameron’s stepping down. He had to, subsequent to his HUGE defeat with Brexit. If he hadn’t, I believe there would have been a “vote of no confidence” by parliament, and that would force him out.He was not playing victim. He had to step down, and he did it in a timely manner with what I thought was a pretty good speech. I was very happy to see him go.

      That said, I thought, while a little hokey (captaining the ship, etc), Cameron’s resignation speech was remarkably even handed and dignified. Admirable, but expected, given the circumstances. ,

      He blew it, and he knew it!

      Cheers!

      quota raven

      • linnte says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 11:30 pm

        I didn’t see his exit speech. I’ll look for it. Thanks. I guess a vote of no confidence would have been way worse than resigning.

        • quota raven says

          Jun 25, 2016 at 3:54 am

          Linnte – Cameron’s speech was THE EPITOME of the kind of English civility that makes me love them. cheers – quota raven)))

  30. Willg says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 9:05 pm

    “Leave” supporters are claiming that all Muslims voted to “Remain” as they were better off in the EU. Untrue. During the night a leader from one of the many Muslim organisations in Britain said that many Muslims were voting “Leave” as they believed that the EU discriminated against immmigrants from outside Europe, in other words, they also believed that an independent Britain would be more likely to allow their families and friends from the Third World to stay and enter the country. Undoubtedly true, as the vast majority of Britain’s immigrants are not from the EU, but from black Africa, Southeast Asia, and the Caribbean. All self-created hellholes. And even if they enter illegally, no country is less likely to deport them as lawyers and do-gooders will fight to keep them there. Politically correct, “multicultural” Britain will be the destination of choice for the Third World, even now that it is outside the EU. Does anyone seriously believe that the thousands in northern France will stop trying and turn around?

    • quota raven says

      Jun 25, 2016 at 3:14 am

      WillG – My dear fellow, what needs to be done is obvious and simple and easily accomplished by any moderately intelligent government, politics notwithstanding,. All of the UK has simply got to put into place a sensible immigration and naturalization process, and has also to devote resources to monitoring the activities of mosques and Islamic establishments, like madrases. Get in there and get the goddamn intel!

      It’s not rocket science! Man up and get bizzy, for god’s sake. Or for England! Or just your own self respect. Your tone is a little whiny.

      Where I grew up, “can’t” never did “anything.”

      Get with the program! Chop, chop!

      Cheers!

      quota raven

      I’ve been seeing credible indications and evidence that Australia is getting the job done, better and better, as time goes on. Australia’s immigration and naturalization service and border security all very civilized and effective, I believe.

      Get a grip, WillG!)))

      Cheers!

      quota raven

    • DFD says

      Jun 25, 2016 at 6:03 am

      Willg says: “…the vast majority of Britain’s immigrants are not from the EU, but from black Africa, …. even if they enter illegally, no country is less likely to deport them as lawyers and do-gooders will fight to keep them there. Politically correct, “multicultural” Britain will be the destination of choice for the Third World, even now that it is outside the EU. Does anyone seriously believe that the thousands in northern France will stop trying and turn around?”

      Indeed. What most of the anti EU people don’t realize is that most of the immigration laws and arrangements are made by *national gvmnts*. In that respect the EU is a mere figleaf. Though, a powerful one. The EU’s main job seems to be to destroy the nation state, see Kalergi, Schumann, Monnet at al.

      Moreover, the talk that most immigrants are from the EU is, as such, bullocks! They are mostly from the Common Wealth, Muslim regions in particular. Those who are from Europe are mostly from the Muslim or Muslim dominated countries like Bosnia, Albania, Kosovo, plus some from the Muslim and Roma regions of Romania, Macedonia etc.

      Here in the UK the invasion or infiltration began in the 60’s, like in Germany. ‘Wonder about France…

      Well, let’s see what ‘fat Lady’ will do the final singing… (NO! NOT implying Merkel!)

      The good thing about the BREXIT is that it may, *hopefully* change the EU, though I doubt it, too much NWO in there. As in the UK gov, and in the others… Anyway, it’s worth a try, after all, cant be worth than to remain “in”.

      Cheeses one off, doesn’t it?

      • Angemon says

        Jun 25, 2016 at 1:40 pm

        France went from “assimilating immigrants” to “integrating immigrants” in the ’70s, and allowed many thousands of immigrants to bring in their families. Looking at the banlieues today, as well as the accusations that the French are racist bigots who ghettoized the poor, little, innocent muslim “immigrants”, I think it’s safe to say it was a bad decision.

        • DFD says

          Jun 25, 2016 at 3:29 pm

          Angemon says: “… I think it’s safe to say it was a bad decision.”

          That was expressed with such gentleness, an appointed stalwart of the polite society could not have expressed himself better – compliments my friend.

          But then, we are posting within the public, or within an open domain. Hence we are unable to use the more appropriate, extremely vulgar, expressions. Not that such is our natural way of converse, Havens forbid. 🙂

  31. Pumbar says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 10:47 pm

    I can’t believe the Robert “Teddy Kennedy” Spencer who has hated and vilified the British has the gall to post this.
    We’ve been supine, craven, abject, broken and dhimmified for years now according to him. Now he deigns to scatter crumbs of praise for us.
    Hang your head in shame over what you have written about my people.

    • mortimer says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 11:32 pm

      I have commented in the past not to underestimate Britons when they are cornered. Hitler did.

      The British dumped Chamberlain and got a man who understood the Nazi enemy.

      UK needs a new Churchill who thoroughly understands Islam and the evil it is conspiring for the UK, Europe and the Americas. A British prime minister should understand Islam as well as Churchill understand the mind of Nazis.

    • Angemon says

      Jun 25, 2016 at 7:02 am

      Yes, how terrible of him – changing one’s mind based on new data? Why, that’s unheard of!

    • linnte says

      Jun 25, 2016 at 9:45 am

      Britain HAS been in dhimmi status and still is but BREXIT shows people are rousing from their sleep. America is dhimmi also and BREXIT may help some wake up too. Saying Robert Spencer HATES England by pointing out dhimmitude is like saying a doctor hates his patient because he told him he has cancer! It’s called “tough love”. If you think for one minute that British people haven’t learned anything from Robert, you are still in dhimmitude! If you were not allowed into a restaurant because you are a soldier of war, how would you feel? All along you had been fighting for the freedom of all the restaurant customers, yet YOU are refused entry? Same case with Robert. Britain rejected Robert by denying him entry into your country! Claiming he is a harbinger of hate. When what he was trying to do was SAVE your staunch British BUTTS! Did you write your Government officials in support of Roberts crucial message? I bet not.

    • Western Canadian says

      Jun 26, 2016 at 8:02 am

      Feel free to post any and all examples of Roberts ‘hatred’ of the British. Oh, right, there are NO examples.

  32. mortimer says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 11:29 pm

    Cameron was a confused and misguided, but basically decent man. His decency led him astray, because he could not bring himself to think that Islam is conspiratorial and supremacist and that Muslims actually believe the 164 violent jihad verses in the Koran and take them as personal commandments.

    Neville Chamberlain could not believe that Hitler meant what he said about invading Russia, going to the Ural Mountains, ethnically cleansing all Slavic peoples and then colonizing it with Lebensborn children.

    Muslims have a similar plan for Europe, UK, and the Americas. Cameron still does not know that.

    • quota raven says

      Jun 25, 2016 at 3:48 am

      To Mortimer – Re: Chamb…ehm…Cameron, yes, Cameron…Well, he’s history! C’est la vie!

      Cheers!

      quota raven

  33. John says

    Jun 25, 2016 at 12:16 am

    Congratulations from Canada!

    This is a victory for Britain, and, a victory for democracy, and, a victory for patriotism.

    Do not worry about the slight economic dump: up here we are going to support you Brits by drinking as much British beer as possible: and, that is a LOT of beer! 🙂

    During WW2, convoys of merchant ships crossed the Atlantic (sometimes, at great danger). Now, these days, we need more merchant convoys, for all the British beer to be sent to Canada! 🙂

    Anyway, congratulations again, and, to my fellow Canadians: please, when you can, stand up and raise a pint(s) to the true Brits!

    John

    • linnte says

      Jun 25, 2016 at 9:24 am

      Slainte! Cheers!

  34. DFD says

    Jun 25, 2016 at 6:11 am

    Cameron to resign in October – HASTA LA VISTA BABY!

    But who will succeed him? Rupert Murdoch, errr… I meant Boris Johnson? God help us, Rupert, sorry, Boris in charge of the UK. Farage, he’s not going to make it. Corbyn? Brrrrrr…..

    Batten down the hatches!
    ===================

    • Diana says

      Jun 25, 2016 at 10:50 pm

      The immediate new Prime Minister will certainly be a member of the Conservative party elected only by the party. Therefore Farage and Corbyn do not qualify.

      Johnson is an excellent speaker and campaign-leader but I think most people recognise that this does not necessarily make him a good Prime Minister. Gove is not popular due to past policies. May backed Remain, which would not be ideal.

      I haven’t heard any other names being bandied around, but I do hope there is someone better than any of the above.

  35. Krag says

    Jun 25, 2016 at 6:33 am

    Congratulations from New Zealand also.
    I have always thought the English people would come to their senses.
    Make no mistake, the main driver to this referendum is untrammelled immigration, especially from
    muslim countries. This needs to be stopped, now.
    There is also no doubt that the European Union needs a thorough shaking up.
    Firstly, get rid of the Schengen agreement. Merkel and her EUCCP cronies need to go, now.
    So how about it Europe. Will your masters of your nominally independent countries each enact the
    same referendum the Britain has.
    I look forward to the results.

  36. Edward says

    Jun 25, 2016 at 11:38 am

    AH! The prudent Brits have done the right thing for their country……they voted to regain their God given “STEWARDSHIP” responsibilities!

    America should follow suit…..this by grabbing away from the Liberals their firm grip on our ordained stewardship.

    Our Sovereign God has designated His human creations as His sole stewards….if we deny His will for us to oversee our own stewardship (by allowing others to oversee) we will fallout from His Graces! Losing His Graces will give rise of periods of times of our trials or perhaps tribulations as we continue with our own personal errors.

  37. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Jun 25, 2016 at 6:27 pm

    Like Tony Bliar before him, Camoron will probably now have to seek a position with his Saudi paymasters, openly pandering for and endorsing global islam.

    Wait and watch for it to happen!

    😉

  38. Islamorefugee says

    Jun 27, 2016 at 6:58 am

    The backlash from the Left, Islamophile and progs (together with ,perhaps, a part of the ‘moderate’muslims) will follow in the wake . These people are unscrupulously powerful with huge money to buy almost anyone .
    To stave off this Islamic invasion BREXIT will give us immense inspiration:-)
    It is simply HITORIC.

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