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FBI: No evidence that Orlando jihad mass murderer had gay lovers

Jun 24, 2016 11:19 am By Robert Spencer

The story of the man who claimed that Mateen was his gay lover, and that he killed out of revenge, not because of jihad, has gone around the world, and has been used to further the ongoing government and mainstream media project of absolving Islam for crimes done in its name and in accord with its teachings. But it was fishy from the start: why was the man heavily disguised? Was he afraid that jihad terrorists would kill him for saying that Mateen’s mass murder was not jihad terrorism? And how did he come to be in a position to be able to state so definitely that Mateen was not acting from a jihadist motive, especially given Mateen’s own statements?

And now the FBI has revealed that they have found nothing to substantiate the man’s story: no gay apps, nothing. The whole thing was a disinformation campaign designed to keep the public ignorant and complacent about the jihad threat. Who is behind it?

Omar Mateen

“FBI investigators say they have found no evidence that Orlando shooter had gay lovers,” by Molly Hennessy-Fiske, Los Angeles Times, June 23, 2016 (thanks to NK):

Since the shooting at an Orlando nightclub last week that left 49 people dead, reports have emerged that gunman Omar Mateen frequented the gay club, used gay dating apps and had gay lovers.

But the FBI has found no evidence so far to support claims by those who say Mateen had gay lovers or communicated on gay dating apps, several law enforcement officials said.

Mateen, 29, told police negotiators he had carried out the shooting that began at 2 a.m. June 12 and ended, after a three-hour standoff, when he was killed by police.

He claimed the shooting was carried out in allegiance to the militant group Islamic State, as a message to halt U.S. bombing in Iraq and Syria.

Several Pulse regulars have come forward in the days since the shooting, claiming to have seen Mateen at the club or to have been contacted by him on the gay dating apps Grindr, Jack’d and Adam4Adam.

On Tuesday, Univision aired a report in which “Miguel,” a man wearing a disguise to conceal his identity, alleged he had sex with Mateen after meeting him on the gay dating app, Grindr. He said Mateen had sex with other men too, including a threesome with a Puerto Rican who allegedly told Mateen, after having had unprotected sex with him, that he was HIV positive.

But investigators do not consider the man’s account credible, according to one senior law enforcement official with access to the investigation.

In seeking to verify the reports, federal agents have culled Mateen’s electronic devices, including a laptop computer and cellphone, as well as electronic communications of those who made the claims, law enforcement officials said.

So far, they have found no photographs, no text messages, no smartphone apps, no gay pornography and no cell-tower location data to suggest that Mateen — who was twice married to women and had a young son — conducted a secret gay life, the officials said.

The FBI is continuing to explore Mateen’s past, but investigators now believe the men who made the claims are not credible, or confused Mateen with someone else….

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  1. Angemon says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 11:23 am

    FBI investigators say they have found no evidence that Orlando shooter had gay lovers

    Wait, is the FBI breaking rank?

    • Don McKellar says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 11:43 am

      Obama will see to it that those FBI investigators will be quietly dismissed. They aren’t with the Obama program.

    • Carmel says

      Jun 25, 2016 at 4:11 am

      They said they only find he had gay sex friend but lovers, it is a big word.

    • vas says

      Jun 25, 2016 at 4:55 am

      It is true about gays being in islam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag5fl2S4juQ

  2. concerned canadian says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 11:27 am

    Story is over now. Lies from all side.
    Who cares. We know the facts.

    ISLAM is dangerous

    • Jay Boo says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 11:35 am

      Wrong

      It is hardly over.
      Even if Hillary says “Who cares”, or “What difference does it make?”
      It is not over.

  3. Jay Boo says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 11:32 am

    Of course he cased the place first.
    He also did research on when to attack.
    A lone gunman does not have the luxury to do otherwise in a crowded nightclub.

    “Several Pulse regulars have come forward in the days since the shooting, claiming to have seen Mateen at the club or to have been contacted by him on the gay dating apps Grindr, Jack’d and Adam4Adam.”

    • elizabeth says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 12:58 pm

      The Islamic ends-justifies-the-means doctrine of “muruna” allows for a Muslim to violate the Sharia – in this case, frequent a gay bar (to case the targeted area), drink, engage in homosexual flings (online or otherwise), instruct his wife and/or mosque members to inform kuffar authorities of his “homosexuality” – all to further the cause of Islam. Shedding the blood infidels merits the Muslim “muruna” deceiver immediate forgiveness and a hero’s entrance into paradise, regardless of how many Sharia violations he has committed.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 3:45 pm

      Yes–that’s what I thought, Jay Boo–he was at Pulse because he was casing the place.

  4. Don McKellar says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 11:40 am

    Well, isn’t that interesting? Did that fake gay lover just come out of the woodwork to try and capture some macabre glory for himself? Or was this mad dog jihadi just really, really methodical in trying to cover up that he was gay — so good that even the FBI will full access to cell phone tower data?

    This does indeed smell like a moslem set-up to try and distort the truth that he was driven by what he says he was driven by and all evidence points to (ie. pure Islam). Although it is possible that this fake gay lover is some real nut case. They are certainly out there.

    • billybob says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 7:25 pm

      CAIR put him up to it – with some $$$ in his pocket.

  5. Jay Boo says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 11:41 am

    Any news from his typical GAY friendly, clothing optional. multi-cultural mosque in Ft Pierce, Florida?

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 4:09 pm

      Ha ha.

  6. eduardo odraude says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 12:07 pm

    This is part of a pattern we often see: When Muslims commit terrorism, other Muslims come along and claim that the victims actually did the terrorism. Thus Muslims claimed that Jews did 9/11. A disguised Muslim man claims that a gay man did the mass shooting of gays in Orlando.

    I have seen this pattern many, many times. Others please post replies giving examples of this. After a jihadist attack, other Muslims in effect join in the attack by blaming the victims.

    Robert Spencer, is that based in Islamic theology or texts? Taqiyya certainly seems to explain it, but I wonder if there is anything more specific about blaming the victim of jihad for the jihad.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 4:15 pm

      This seems likely, Eduardo. Then the blame falsely lands on the gay community itself.

      Muslims love blaming Infidels for their own victimization.

      • eduardo odraude says

        Jun 26, 2016 at 3:56 am

        It’s hitting someone when they are down. It shows the very reverse of compassion, the most merciless cruelty.

  7. CrustyB says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 1:37 pm

    M-m-maybe a big bear attacked the nightclub?

  8. Norger says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 2:42 pm

    We may never know why he did it…. A real head-scratcher.

  9. gravenimage says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 4:26 pm

    The *only* references I can find to Omar Mateen fearing he was HIV positive is from the anonymous “gay lover”.

  10. Tommy says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 5:00 pm

    No insult to gay people….but did they do an anal exam to determine if he was gay?

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 25, 2016 at 2:00 am

      Tommy, not all gay men have anal sex.

      • Carmel says

        Jun 25, 2016 at 4:36 am

        Sexology 101 say only 28 % of gays have anal sex.

        Sexology 101 say anal sex is almost only in one night stands. long term gay relationship don’t have anal sex.

        Finally 30 % of heterosexual have anal sex.

        So , it seems that in human behavior a man having an anal sex activity with a women is well seen but not with a man . And the man who gets penetrated by another man is the one all the shame goes on. Not the one who penetrates.

        Conclusion , passive men are not positively seen in western world especially by men who consider it to be a feminine way of acting and feminine ways of acting are considered lower manners as compared to masculine ways of acring.

        In short , in the head of many men : Why does a man want to act like a women , why does a man would like to be inferior ?

        Black gays are more fond of anal sex than whites and blacks generally prefer to be top in anal sex. That covers it.

      • eduardo odraude says

        Jun 26, 2016 at 4:06 am

        Carmel, shame falling on the passive recipient is actually not a characteristic of the current Western world. It is a characteristic of societies that remain traditional, where the woman is deemed inferior to the man. Shame fell on the passive homosexual adult recipient in ancient Greece. Unless the recipient was a boy, not a man, and the boy did not desire the passivity, and submitted to it only in order to learn from the mentor. In that case there was no shame at that time. But in societies where women are consider the equals of men, shame no longer falls on the passive recipient in homosexual relations. In (many) traditional societies, there is hardly even a concept of “homosexual” as distinct from “heterosexual.” There is only a distinction between male and female, which were equated with active/passive, and superior/inferior. Once women were considered equals, the “passive” lost the contempt that had been thrown on it. It was also then that the concept of homosexuality first really emerged. Before that, two men having sex were conceived in a way as a man and a woman, the woman being a man who had “despicably” lowered himself to the passive inferior position of woman.

    • carpediadem says

      Jun 26, 2016 at 10:23 am

      Um – anal sex is not confined to gay people.

  11. Carmel says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 8:39 pm

    And all those nights (60 ) in the last years at the same hotel , what for ?

    • somehistory says

      Jun 24, 2016 at 11:25 pm

      Meetings with other terrorists to plan how and where and when he would carry out his attack. Discussing if it would be Disney, or the club or another location, or multiple locations, etc.

      In islam, there is no lone wolf as there are with deranged people like the UniBomber. islam teaches that they must engage in warfare and terror, they hear it in their barracks every week and they read it in their unholy book.
      They gain support from their family members. He was most likely meeting with those who helped him plan his terror. They may have provided some or all of his weapons and ammunition as well as any explosives.

      • Carmel says

        Jun 25, 2016 at 4:38 am

        60 nights appear to me a lot of preparation for such an attack.

        • blitz2b says

          Jun 26, 2016 at 10:07 am

          They threw in a little “hanky panky” once in a while …. What’s a little bromance between jihadi brothers to lighten up the mood?

  12. Mark DeFord Eletion says

    Jun 24, 2016 at 9:55 pm

    Part of the FBI’s job would be to extract info from the shooter’s family. They may have come up with a plan that involved conjuring up a story about the shooter being gay. Daddy’s response might have been something like “Please stop saying my son was gay! We’ll cooperate!”. The FBI then says “Ok, you tell us everything you know, and we’ll tell everyone your son was not gay”.

    • Carmel says

      Jun 25, 2016 at 4:40 am

      Question is : what FBI wouldlike to found in this case? The answer is : they will.

  13. خَليفة says

    Jun 25, 2016 at 2:20 am

    The tried and true stragedy to introduce a level of doubt and complacency into the minds of the public.

    By having any number of outrageous, conspiratorial and/or contradictory “confessions” “statements” “interviews” or “scenarios” released to the public.

  14. خَليفة says

    Jun 25, 2016 at 2:41 am

    I thinking west should start crediting ISIS for everything that goes wrong, even made up stuff.

    – Wild fires in CA started by retarded ISIS operative trying to light a cigarette
    – ISIS takes credit for recent tornados in Oklahoma
    – shark attack in Christ Church, ISIS operative trying to train sharks to attack infidels gets eaten instead
    – ISIS claims to have earthquake machine; design found in Koran
    – starving ISIS agent lost in Florida Everglades kills and eats rare manatee, told police “it tastes like chicken”

    Blast them with stupid and embarrassing stories, so the real ones are just ambient noise.

  15. BC says

    Jun 25, 2016 at 2:53 am

    The story of the man who claimed that Mateen was his gay lover, and that he killed out of revenge, not because of jihad, has gone around the world, and has been used to further the ongoing government and mainstream media project of absolving Islam for crimes done in its name and in accord with its teachings.
    How Dr Goebbels would have loved the internet! Of course with the internet the Nazis would not have gained power

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 25, 2016 at 3:07 am

      Yes–but this cuts both ways. Here’s Jihad Watch using the internet to get the truth out!

  16. Mark A says

    Jun 25, 2016 at 3:43 am

    Mateen’s statements to police via cell phone made his jihadi motives very clear.

    The jihadi motives are the story here. Stories about Mateen being gay are secondary, possibly diversionary..

    Mateen’s jihadi motives are clear and they are the primary story here.

    • Norger says

      Jun 25, 2016 at 11:08 pm

      Exactly. Would only,the MSM tell it that way.

  17. Debi Brand says

    Jun 25, 2016 at 4:19 am

    “… investigators now believe the men who made the claims are not credible, or confused Mateen with someone else….or” were hired to tell the fabrication.

    • Norger says

      Jun 25, 2016 at 11:10 pm

      I wouldn’t discount that possibility at all.

      • Debi Brand says

        Jun 25, 2016 at 11:51 pm

        I’d all but bank on it.

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