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Gun control is not the solution to jihadist rampages in what experts call “convergence of terrorism and mass shootings” in Orlando

Jun 13, 2016 2:23 pm By Christine Douglass-Williams

As President Obama calls for gun control, making himself and his like-minded cronies look ever more foolish and out of touch with reality on the issue of the jihadist threat to the American public, experts are concluding that defending against mass shootings in public places is nearly impossible.

That leaves us regrettably dependent on the likes of Obama, and on political and security policy to crack down on messages of hate and death being routinely preached from Sharia-adherent mosques and Islamic centers. So the question becomes, how formidable are the powers-that-be in securing our safety and Western freedoms? We’re weak.

A big part of the problem resides in the ideological realms, where Westerners are unable or unwilling to grasp jihadist zeal and the deceptive promotion of the word “Islamophobia” to protect the jihadist ambitions.

A Canadian imam of a so-called mainstream mosque, referenced in a national newspaper as “Toronto’s million-dollar ‘radical mosque,’” well illustrated the divide between jihadist ideology and Western ideology — to the point of disobeying laws.

Imam Aly Hindy of the Salaheddin Islamic Centre said: “Illegal means illegal in Islam, not illegal in the Canadian law”. He was referring to “illegal sexual acts” in a disparaging talk against homosexuals.

Leftist enablers and jihadist sympathizers are walking right into the enemy trap, enabling the sacrifice of the blood of innocents in this violent (and historic) quest to conquer infidel lands and people.

Making bombs is complicated, so terrorism and mass shooting experts are noting that the use of firearms is likely no coincidence. Gun control unfortunately disarms law-abiding citizens. Even though killers are oftentimes reported as using registered weapons, it isn’t difficult to obtain one illegally. Jihadists also believe in rewards for murdering infidels, and they don’t respect our laws, as Imam Aly Hindi revealed.

A professor in the article below cites a “certain level of satisfaction they can get by shooting people,” over using a bomb. He states that with a bomb, “it’s sudden and over. With shooting, you have tremendous power and control over your victims. One by one you can see them suffer and die.”

This is the monstrous mentality of Islamic jihadists who lurk in our cities. We lock our doors, teach our children about talking to strangers, and most of us try to stay away from crime-ridden parts of town; but we are collectively unprepared for rampaging jihadist lunatics who hate beyond our comprehension. No one knows where or how they will strike next, whether in a group or as a lone wolf. This is not about victimizing innocent Muslims. That is a separate fight. This is about targeting violent Jihadist ideologies and violence against all innocents.

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“Orlando rampage reflects convergence of terrorism and mass shootings”, by Michael S. Rosenwald, The Washington Post, June 12, 2016:

The deadly attack at an Orlando nightclub early Sunday is raising serious concerns among global security experts and criminologists about a convergence between terrorism and the American phenomenon of mass shootings.

Armed with an AR-15 — the weapon of choice for mass shooters — Omar Mateen pledged allegiance to the Islamic State during an attack that killed 50 people at a popular gay club called Pulse, authorities said. The rampage echoed several recent high-profile terrorist attacks on U.S. soil in which extremist sympathizers used firearms instead of explosives, once a terrorism staple.

Nidal Malik Hasan, a follower of radical imam Anwar al-Awlaki, gunned down 13 people in 2009 at Fort Hood, Tex. Last July, Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez, seeking martyrdom, fatally shot five service members in Tennessee. And late last year, not long after terrorists in Paris shot up cafes and a theater, a radicalized couple in San Bernardino, Calif., killed 14 people at an office holiday party.

Terrorism and mass shooting experts say the use of firearms in terror attacks, particularly among lone wolves, is probably not a coincidence. For attackers without direct ties to experts in terrorist networks, the country’s nearly 60,000 gun dealers offer plenty of high-caliber options.

“It’s becoming increasingly apparent that mass shootings can be just as deadly as bombings,” said Adam Lankford, a University of Alabama criminal justice professor and author of a book on mass shooters and suicide bombers. “And the scary part is that it’s often much easier to pull off.”

Making bombs is complicated. Buying materials and seeking assistance from others — online or in person — can tip off law enforcement officials. And bombs have a way of either blowing up attackers during construction or failing to detonate when needed.

“It’s much easier to purchase and learn how to shoot a gun than it is to learn how to make a bomb,” said James Alan Fox, a Northeastern University professor who studies mass killings. “You have more tactical control with a gun than a bomb.”

And there are psychic rewards, too, for radicalized mass killers.

“There’s a certain level of satisfaction they can get by shooting people,” Fox said. “With a bomb, it’s sudden and over. With shooting, you have tremendous power and control over your victims. One by one you can see them suffer and die.”

Statistics on terrorist tactics generally involve completed attacks, not those that have been disrupted, so it’s difficult to know with precision how terrorist playbooks are evolving, according to William Braniff, the executive director of the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (START).

But the group’s statistics offer clues.

From 1970 to 2014, explosives were the primary weapon in more than half of terrorist attacks in the United States, according to START. Several times during that period, no firearms were used in U.S. attacks. But in 2014, 14 of the 29 terrorist attacks involved firearms. And START’s research shows that between 1970 and 2014, 40 percent of terrorist attacks with firearms were deadly, versus 4 percent in attacks without guns.

“Firearms are available, lethal and frankly they get a lot of media attention,” Braniff said. “As a country, we obsess over it. We have a gun culture.”

And what makes the potential convergence so terrifying, experts said, is that defending against mass shootings in public places, whether by extremists or psychopaths, is nearly impossible……

 

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  1. Tommy says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 2:27 pm

    The shooter, Omar, had a special gun permit that put him above gun-control

    • Face_The_Truth says

      Jun 13, 2016 at 2:39 pm

      How about Fort Hood, Texas, shootings of well-trained American service-people?

      It was a gun-free military enclave!

      The most remarkable thing about this latest Islamic attack on America is only one pious Muslim man was quite effectively able to murder 49 without being tackled down by so many homosexual Americans in that night club.

      So, let’s remember: Guns do not kill; Muslims do.

      • Rev g says

        Jun 13, 2016 at 2:56 pm

        If I have an expensive guitar, tune it badly, and play it poorly, is the bad music the guitar’s fault?
        If Eric Clapton plays a cheap guitar and it sounds awesome, is it the guitar’s doing?
        Then why do we blame the gun, a mere tool, for a gun man’s actions?
        Plenty of tools that can be used to kill.

        • Face_The_Truth says

          Jun 13, 2016 at 3:06 pm

          Rev_G says
          If Eric Clapton plays a cheap guitar and it sounds awesome, is it the guitar’s doing?

          No, a guitar is a dumb instrument that doesn’t sound good at all when a non-guitar-player like myself touches it’s strings.

        • Face_The_Truth says

          Jun 13, 2016 at 4:01 pm

          At least a few, if not dozens!

        • Isabellathecrusader says

          Jun 13, 2016 at 5:56 pm

          That brain surgeon on The Five, Julie Roginsky, just asked why anyone would possibly need an AK-47. Answer Julie…because of people like Omar who had lots and lots of fire power and because you don’t bring a pee shooter to a gun fight. Thankfully, Kimberly Guilfoyle set her straight. Julie, like so many of the gay people who lost their friends yesterday morning will not understand or do anything about this problem until somebody close to them is killed or maimed. It’s the hallmark of our time.

          For over twelve years I used to talk to friends, family and business associates about this incessantly but I don’t even have to anymore. It’s on the TV almost every day. Now that’s progress. Not.

      • abad says

        Jun 13, 2016 at 8:09 pm

        Muslims want to kill you.

        Christians want to convert you.

        • Ashley says

          Jun 13, 2016 at 10:34 pm

          Muslims want to convert you so you will kill. And if you don’t convert? Death.

          I’m an atheist. I have never been pressured to convert to Christianity by my Christian friends/colleagues/associates.

          You are a real irritant, abad.

        • Mark Swan says

          Jun 14, 2016 at 7:33 am

          You Got it abad

      • Dean says

        Jun 14, 2016 at 4:27 am

        They know that gun control is not the solution to mass killings by guns. It is their clueless useful idiots that buy this crap. Every atrocity is just an excuse to disarm citizens that they expect may resist their totalitarian plans for the country. Importing more jihadist may even give them more excuses to call for ever increasing gun restrictions until the 2nd is ignored by the courts or abolished. They must also know that that without effective vetting of the Islam refugees that at least 1% are trained militants. That would be 650 of the 65 thou Syrians being fast tracked for this year as a start.

        • linnte says

          Jun 14, 2016 at 11:21 am

          Exactly, Dean!

    • eduardo odraude says

      Jun 13, 2016 at 6:20 pm

      Trump seems to get it, despite the phrase “radical Islam.”
      http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/13/trump_hillary_clinton_in_total_denial_refused_to_name_radical_islam_until_i_pressured_her.html

      • eduardo odraude says

        Jun 13, 2016 at 6:30 pm

        Here’s another one that shows Trump has it right:
        http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/13/trump_muslim_ban_will_be_lifted_once_we_can_properly_screen_people_coming_in.html

      • billybob says

        Jun 13, 2016 at 7:10 pm

        And here’s another, which contains the above. It seems the above are only excerpts of his entire speech. This video goes on for just about 33 minutes, and it’s all good.
        http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/how-trump-and-clinton-reacted-to-orlando-1.2943871?autoPlay=true
        Interestingly, it is on a Canadian website! As a Canadian, I was happy to see that.

        I must say I am astonished with the platform Trump has come out with. He says it all, and pulls no punches. …and he can speak in full sentences! I didn’t know that.

        Trump has thrown down the gauntlet. This is a bold move. Now I’ll be watching for reaction from around the world. This is going to be interesting.

        • linnte says

          Jun 14, 2016 at 11:26 am

          “He speaks in full sentences”….. hahahahahaha! How funny you are!

      • IQ al Rassooli says

        Jun 14, 2016 at 4:23 am

        eduardo

        Trump had to use the meaningless ‘Radical Islam’ otherwise the media and all the brain dead elites among the democrats, administration and academia would have AGAIN crucified him

        trump KNOWS that there are NO Radical Extremist Militant or Moderate Islam or Muslims just as there NEVER were NO Radical Extremist Militant or Moderate NAZIS!

        All this will hopefully change when he becomes president

        IQ al Rassooli
        Kafir & Proud!

    • Westman says

      Jun 14, 2016 at 2:21 am

      Jimmy Fallon took a few minutes on the Tonight Show to talk thoughtfully about the Orlando massacre without judging or calling for some legal controls; suggesting that perhaps one of his children might become gay and should not be at risk because of bigotry or someone’s beliefs.

      Seth Myers, on the other hand, went liberal-stupid; bringing in Trump quotes, calling for gun control, and, of course, not recognizing the religious ideology connection. For a smart, witty, person, he doesn’t seem to know anything more about Islam than what’s in the news.

      The simple reason the people of a democracy should be armed is to ensure the continuation of that freedom. Those who want to commit mayhem can always find the means even if they are illegal. Prohibition created criminal activity and so will excessive gun control.

      • Mark Swan says

        Jun 15, 2016 at 4:23 pm

        Very Good Point—That Last Sentence—You Got It Westman

    • Jerry says

      Jun 14, 2016 at 8:17 pm

      The real problem is that it is too easy to get
      a Koran in Florida (or to download one
      from the Internet).

      • Dean says

        Jun 14, 2016 at 8:20 pm

        What a toxic mix, a gun, the Koran and political correctness. Sounds like a prescription for an atrocity.

  2. isabella van der westhuizen says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 2:31 pm

    If there were no guns then maybe Harambe the gorilla did not have to die

    The little boy could have instead

    • Face_The_Truth says

      Jun 13, 2016 at 2:41 pm

      It was a case of animal rights abuse to the highest degree to shoot an unarmed African gorilla!!!

      • Robert Meechum says

        Jun 13, 2016 at 5:15 pm

        Lmao. Animal abuse. Typical lberal nonsense. Where were you when the boy fell in. I would lower you down to love that ape to death. Better yet, go to mudslme countries and lovevthem to death.

        • linnte says

          Jun 13, 2016 at 6:11 pm

          Robert, we can have animal rights AND human rights. Animals, created by God, deserve our protection as the Bible says. Carelessness over any living creature, and disregard for the living energy that God gave them is unholy. Putting the life of an animal above human life is, of course wrong. But all life is precious because God is the Government and creator of that life. 🙂

      • Champ says

        Jun 13, 2016 at 6:14 pm

        “It was a case of animal rights abuse to the highest degree to shoot an unarmed African gorilla!!!”

        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        I hope you’re being sarcastic; if not, then that is one stupid-ass comment.

        • WorkingClassPost says

          Jun 14, 2016 at 8:10 am

          I’m not an expert in these matters, but I’d wager a couple of bucks that was indeed called sarcasm.

  3. African infidel says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 2:38 pm

    Why is it that many “gay” people and others in the news tvs are carrying around “gay” flags with letters of love and talking about love etc? Is this not a time for justice and war and revenge?

    • Face_The_Truth says

      Jun 13, 2016 at 2:57 pm

      You sound like you have complete faith in Allah and Allah’s final messenger!

      By the way, Allah lives inside Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia is America’s most important ally in Middle East.

      In Saudi Arabia, Muslims do not use guns and bullets, rather use heavy swords to cut off the heads of homosexuals and bi-sexuals.

      • Face_The_Truth says

        Jun 13, 2016 at 4:02 pm

        Your sentence makes no sense.

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 13, 2016 at 4:23 pm

        Face_The_Truth, African Infidel is *not* Muslim.

        • Robert Meechum says

          Jun 13, 2016 at 5:18 pm

          Face_the_truth smoked too man stems and seeds.

      • billybob says

        Jun 13, 2016 at 7:32 pm

        “Allah lives inside Saudi Arabia” 🙂 I liked that! Just like Santa Claus lives at the North Pole. These people have to live somewhere!

        • WorkingClassPost says

          Jun 14, 2016 at 8:15 am

          Shit, I hope that’s where the similarity ends.

          Don’t fancy a visit from big al next Christmas, I kinda know what might be in his sack.

  4. Walter Sieruk says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 2:38 pm

    Just look the the co called “gun control ” laws did for France last November ,13 in the city of Paris. Those gun control people need to get a grip. In Paris ,San Bernardo Brussels and now Orlando ii was Islam. To be even more specific it was the outcome of Islam’s vicious brutal malicious and murderous militant jihad.

    • Face_The_Truth says

      Jun 13, 2016 at 2:42 pm

      History repeats.

    • Dom107 says

      Jun 14, 2016 at 3:47 pm

      France has not got tight gun laws compared to the UK for example that’s why so many more of their police die in shootings.If mass killings were invented by Muslims why is it that 1.5 million Americans have been killed by other Americans since 1950 more than all Americas wars !
      The surprise random killer will always have the advantage whether their victims are armed or not.
      If President Kennedy’s killer hadn’t been able to get a mail order rifle JFK would have lived to not make LBJs terrible mistake of escalating the Vietnam war! 60000 lives saved there !!
      It amazes me that in a country like the USA with such great centres of learning like Harvard,Yale,Caltech and many more that alongside this very advanced thinking there are such “dumbasses”( to use the American term) who seem to contribute to this site.
      The world has a problem with all religions and particular Islam because of its violence but America has a problem with its own culture and misinterpretation of the 2nd Amendment which was not written for today’s World as the Qu’ran was not written for today’s world either.The !ogic of the gun addict is similar to that of the alcohol,tobacco or drug addict. He/she knows it is bad for them and society but the illusion of personal security is so strong they can’t give it up.America today is one of the most dangerous places in the world to live NOT the safest.As with religions of all kinds in the US you are seriously deluding yourself.
      As an outsider who loves the values,learning ,way of life of the USA, on this issue of sensible gun control it really puzzles and irritates me why so many of you can’t see sense.
      The latest incident where a guy on the FBI watch list can get a licenced assault rifle just beggars belief.!
      And know this despite the recent terrorist murders Europe’s murder rate is no where near that of the USA

      • mike says

        Jun 14, 2016 at 5:07 pm

        You sure make some generalities in your post. Such as “The surprise random killer will always have the advantage whether their victims are armed or not.” I would disagree with this. It may be true in many cases but anyone who is aware of their surroundings, stays vigilant and does not talk on their phones while walking down the street has a good chance of fending off an armed attacker if you are also armed. The key is to be aware. An attacker will in almost all circumstances avoid the situationally aware person and go for the one who is not paying attention to anything.

        “If President Kennedy’s killer hadn’t been able to get a mail order rifle JFK would have lived to not make LBJs terrible mistake of escalating the Vietnam war! 60000 lives saved there !!” WHAT?? I guess you could say if our founders had no guns available think of all the American lives that would have been spared if the Revolutionary War had not been fought. I can give you thousands of stories where a “good guy” with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun. How can anyone not see this who visits this site?

        At least you did not bring up the great Australia gun program that is a result of government confiscation of private citizens arms. Whenever you hear a politician or a leftist talk about modeling Australia’s policy they are merely saving they favor the government confiscating a private citizens belongings. For those that applaud this i would recommend they move there so they can have maybe their cars confiscated when the government decides they kill too many people. Confiscation is NOT an American ideal nor one our framers ever would have stood for. Speaking of the framers, you mentioned the second amendment and it is “not written for today’s World as the Qu’ran was not written for today’s world either.

        How do you figure that? The Founding Fathers, having just broken away from Great Britain, understood the new federal government they were ratifying might one day become just as tyrannical. If it had the authority to control citizen access to firearms, then it could disarm them, just as the British attempted to do. This would make any attempts to restore liberties futile.The Second Amendment was specifically included in the Bill of Rights to prevent this.

        NOW gun control advocates are attempting to alter the meaning of the Second Amendment in order to allow for federal restrictions on our right to bear arms. Not surprisingly, you and all leftists completely ignore what the ratifiers of the Constitution and the Second Amendment had to say, because all pertinent historical documents contradict your “not written for today’s World.” It was written for yesterday’s world, today’s world and tomorrow’s world!! For example, when the Founders wrote of a “well regulated” militia, they meant militias needed to be well regulated through training and drilling in order to be effective in battle. This could only happen if citizens had unrestricted access to firearms.

        “James Madison, the father of the Constitution, said in 1789 that “A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country.”

        An example of a well regulated militia under Madison’s definition were the Minutemen at Concord and Lexington, who had drilled on fields in preparation for war.

        As to the meaning of the word “militia,” it has nothing to do with the National Guard. There is already a clause in the Constitution that specifically authorizes arming them.

        So what is a militia as defined by the Founders? Mason said they were “the whole people, except for a few public officials.”

        In fact, there was a universal acceptance among both federalists and anti-federalists as to the importance of the right to bear arms.

        Alexander Hamilton wrote in Federalist 28 that “if the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense,” a right which he declared to be “paramount.”

        And then there is clause “shall not be infringed.” There is no exception to this contained anywhere in the amendment.

        Zacharia Johnson, a delegate to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, summed up the meaning of the Second Amendment when he declared that “The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full possession of them.”

        Full possession. Not some. Not most. Full possession of their weapons. The feds were to keep their hands off entirely.

        The Founders made it very clear what the Second Amendment means. But if we do not fight against any and all attempts by the feds to infringe upon our right to keep and bear arms, then it loses all relevant meaning.” Our founders would be appalled by Obama and his disregard for the constitution and would more than likely be the first ones NOW to say keep your guns! Since you have decreed we no longer need to worry about a government being tyrannical we should just give up all of our guns? You are prepared to be like the Jews during Hitler’s reign? take away all of our guns and make us impotent towards a govt that decides to do what it wants? How do you know our government has not been more tyrannical because of the guns we have? makes one wonder when a leftist in power is so committed to gun removal from honest citizens what are his motives? Why is my gun and the gun of millions of others bad when we have done nothing? Why does he want my gun? Out of the millions of so called assault rifles there have been maybe a hundred of them involved in shootings, maybe. AND who knows how many of those were put there by Obama and Holder in their gun running scheme? because 0.01% of the guns have been used to commit mass murderers you want to get rid of them all. That, my leftist friend, is not logical.

        leftists do not like it that a person trained in the use of a gun does not need the government to protect him/her. Why anyone would want to WAIT for a government official to come and rescue them 5-10 minutes AFTER you have been raped or murdered is beyond me or any thinking person.

        It would seem there are many “dumb asses” in the USA who think taking away the gun from a person who has done nothing wrong will make them safer. It is these same “dumb asses” who cry about people being killed by guns who care nothing about the automobile deaths every year. If the number of people dying is the ruler you use then why are you not advocating that our cars are taken away? Or if you care about children dying, why aren’t you advocating for the swimming pools in the USA to be filled in? Or if it is the numbers killed at once then airplanes should all be grounded because that can wipe out 200-300 people in one accident??!!

        The Quran is not written for today? OK, if you feel that way and you feel the same way about guns then how do you propose we protect ourselves from those who believe the Quran IS written for today (like the murderer in Orlando)? Since he decided to go to a gun-free-zone to murder all of these people AND YOU PROPOSE WE MAKE THE ENTIRE USA A GUN FREE ZONE, how can I protect myself from the likes of this guy and everyone else who thinks like him? We KNOW there are millions of them and perhaps hundreds of thousands right here in the USA. I am supposed to depend on the police like those in the nightclub? You want to dictate that I cannot protect my self from a murdering animal like this guy?

        You talk about other countries not having guns, they also do not have our constitution. THAT is what makes us different. “No one needs an assault rifle” I have heard so many times. When has that EVER been the standard for the United States?No one needs a corvette that will go 180 mph but that does not mean we should outlaw them. “Need” was never a ruler to buy something in the USA and isn’; that great? Don’t like it? Lots of places you can go that already have everything you want to dictate to us. Go where you can have what you want and let those of us stay as free as possible and protect ourselves and our country. It is too bad leftists do not blame the evil shooter and his evil beliefs but instead blame his gun while blaming every law abiding person for things their guns will never do. Not logical is it. (P.S. I don’t think Harvard et al have anything to do with logic or learning lately, they are just leftist institutions of more propaganda)

      • Mark Swan says

        Jun 14, 2016 at 9:29 pm

        The Second Amendment allows all law abiding citizens to have and bear arms…
        it is a stroke of social genius…it speaks of the American right to self defense…
        and hinders a dictator.

        Over 300 million privately owned legal guns in the U. S. is the SWAG…What that estimate would be if the illegal gun population is included…Who Knows.

        There are certainly things this Country is just Un-Able to Approach.

        Gun Violence is highly concentrated in urban areas and associated with gang violence involving male juveniles or young adult males… Although random mass shootings have been covered extensively in the media…random mass shootings account for a very small amount of gun-related deaths…so far.

        The imminent potential for certain elements in our society to commit gun violence is
        much more realistic to focus on than any other considered factor.

        Blacks make up 13% of the population (both sexes) but commit 57% of gun homicides. It’s even worse since it’s more like 6.5% of the population (males) committing 57% of the gun homicides.

        With an annual average of 30,000 Gun deaths, and nearly 2/3 are suicides, it indicates
        that .003 % legal guns might be used in homicide—accidental, law enforcement, and
        homicides shootings by people of other races, are included in this percentage.

        The liberal Political Machine…along with media allies may want to Imply that more Gun Control can help with gun violence…but more laws won’t help…we have extremely strict laws already in place…just admitting that some sources have that inherent potential is a start…to guarding against potential violence.

        We all know that…Action Produces Results…If any President would act on the overwhelming source of gun violence in this country…That Very Source Which Causes Our Numbers To Be So High…by focusing on this one area of the most gun violence…these numbers could be diminished greatly.

        We can not stop all violence…yet where we do know we can find it…we could try there.

        Any President can use the Bully Pulpit to address this nonsense…I am sure most of us thought this one might when He got elected…yes there will be severe resistance from so many directions…but someone with Real Conviction can garner support from enough citizens…this might get the ball rolling.

        It seems we somehow come to view this urban violence as…it is just the way it is there…it is expected…and let it be there…not here…but…these are major chunks of major cities…major chunks of our Nation…it is in fact the Nation’s long occurring Problem.

        If any President wants to unify our people…let them see one law for all…wishing something will change is fine…But it takes action to produce results…wanting to be a leader and leading are different subjects completely…let us hope for such a leader soon.

        If We can not reign in these long standing criminal gangs they are still going to be a major source of Illegal Gun distribution and they will aid an abet any one with the funds…If we can not get a lid on this…WE WILL EVEN FIND FIGHTING JIHAD MUCH MORE DIFFICULT THAN IT WOULD NEED TO BE.

        A century of sternly enforced drug prohibition has resulted in drugs being more available than ever to inner-city youth. The fact should offer a caution to liberals who imagine that gun laws can succeed where drug laws have failed, and somehow keep a commodity away from a market that demands it.

        As long as the debate over the decay of inner-city America focuses only on symptoms-guns, gangs, and drugs-there will never be a solution.

        Improving the juvenile justice system is a first step toward reducing teenage criminal violence. Taking violent teenagers off the streets is a more effective approach than leaving them on the street and enacting gun control palliatives.

        It is long past time for us to stop fixating on the gun supply, and to start dealing with the persons who misuse guns, and the social conditions under which innocent babies grow in less than two decades into callous murderers.

        The solution is in the playpen, not in the state pen.

        A better strategy to reducing drug abuse should be to offer inner-city youth a future brighter than the false and numbing consciousness offered by drug pushers.

        The true need: the economic, social and moral resurrection of the inner city. Just how this might be accomplished and at what cost can be debated; the urgent need to do so cannot.

        All parties to the crime debate would do well to give more concentrated attention to more difficult, but far more relevant, issues like how to generate more decent-paying jobs for the inner city, one issue which is at the heart of the violence problem, these Americans need us.

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 14, 2016 at 11:07 pm

        Dom107 wrote:

        France has not got tight gun laws compared to the UK for example that’s why so many more of their police die in shootings.
        ……………………………

        France–and Belgium–have much stricter gun control laws than does the United States–that didn’t prevent Muslims from getting hold of semi-automatic weapons and wrecking havoc in Paris and Brussels.

        That’s because–I know this may come as a shock–Jihadists bent on mass murder have no interest in obeying Infidel laws.

        As for police officers dying in France over (supposedly) loose gun laws, you may be interested in learning that Muslims are targeting police officers and their families in France whether they choose to use guns or not:

        “Ramadan in Paris: Muslim screaming “Allahu akbar” murders policeman and wife”

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/06/ramadan-in-paris-muslim-screaming-allahu-akbar-murders-policeman-and-wife

        More:

        If mass killings were invented by Muslims why is it that 1.5 million Americans have been killed by other Americans since 1950 more than all Americas wars !
        ……………………………

        When has *anyone* here claimed that Muslims “invented mass killings”? This is something that predates Islam, obviously.

        But like violent conquest, slavery, and rape, these are all things fervently embraced by Islam.

        More:

        It amazes me that in a country like the USA with such great centres of learning like Harvard,Yale,Caltech and many more that alongside this very advanced thinking there are such “dumbasses”( to use the American term) who seem to contribute to this site.
        ……………………………

        How *dare* Infidels oppose violent Jihad? Bad dhimmis…

        More:

        The world has a problem with all religions and particular Islam because of its violence but America has a problem with its own culture and misinterpretation of the 2nd Amendment which was not written for today’s World as the Qu’ran was not written for today’s world either.
        ……………………………

        Where to start? What problem does the world have with “all religions”? Most faiths are not violent, and urge their followers to better behavior.

        Comparing the Bill of Rights to the foul Qur’an is simply sickening.

        And the Qur’an was no more decent or less harmful in the 7th century than it is today.

        • Mark Swan says

          Jun 15, 2016 at 8:20 am

          gravenimage Thank You for pulling that nonsense apart for us—

          It is not just our success that is envied, it is our Ideas that are under attack, the Ideas that make us so emulated by people all over the earth, the ideas that presents the biggest hindrance to all those, who insist the world should be ruled by very different ideas.

  5. Carol Petrone says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 2:47 pm

    Excuse me, but how did the killer (or killers) die? Gunfire. How many hours did it take for the authorities (!) to rush in? Why? How many text/phone messages were sent out during the time of the killings? What information was learned from the people under siege? Some serious questions need to be answered here.

    • linnte says

      Jun 13, 2016 at 6:20 pm

      I agree!!! There is a hole in the information. If police watched him GO INTO THE Bar, why didn’t they stop him beforehand? Were the murders perpetrated by some of our own officers as collateral damage? There is no mention of the clip on the assault rifle or the handgun. There are limited numbers of bullets available in clips. We know for sure 103 bullets were fired. Clips usually carry up to 20 bullets on average. Something just doesn’t mesh. The shooter DID call 911 before going in which is why the police were there. How did they get there so fast? Was he there on site while calling? I suspect these questions will never be answered because Government will want this incident swept away asap.

      • billybob says

        Jun 13, 2016 at 7:39 pm

        There were two police on guard duty there, and more nearby. From what I gather, police were on the scene pretty quick. Then why so many casualties? Of course with automatic fire the perp could drop an awful lot of people in a few minutes if the space is packed.

        You say “Clips usually carry up to 20 bullets on average.”, but I would expect the perp would either a.) have a bigger clip, or b.) have several stuck in his belt. I think an awful lot of damage could be done in just 5 minutes.

        My question is, how many people were killed by the police? It was revealed after that Muslim terrorist held up in a coffee shop in Sydney that several people were killed by the swat team that took him out. This information will be revealed a long time from now.

        • EYESOPEN says

          Jun 13, 2016 at 9:45 pm

          The AR-15 is NOT a fully-automatic sub-machine gun. Unless illegally tampered with it is only a semi-automatic weapon. Which means that the gun can only be fired as fast as someone pulls the trigger. A major difference there between that and, say the BAR (Browning Automatic Rifle) used in WWII (or any fully-automatic weapon).

        • Jay Boo says

          Jun 14, 2016 at 12:37 pm

          Technically other than a high capacity cartridge it is not even an assault rifle. The real danger in the AR-15 in particular he used is in its psychological appeal to kill crazy types like this Muslim. It looks like a military weapon.

          Other rifles are potentially more deadly, but the AR-15 seems to be the go to weapon of choice.

        • dumbledoresarmy says

          Jun 14, 2016 at 5:30 pm

          You wrote, re the Lindt cafe jihad raider: “several people were killed by the swat team that took him out.”

          Correction: **one person** was killed. The total death toll – luckily – at the Lindt cafe was two. One person, the manager of the cafe, Tori Johnson (incidentally, he was gay; was that why the Muslim killer singled him out for ‘special attention’?) was shot by the Muslim attacker. The cops then stormed the cafe (fearing presumably that the attacker was going to start shooting the rest of the hostages) and *one person*, Katrina Dawson, was killed by shrapnel when police fire ricocheted off the walls.

          Two dead – *one* killed by the Muslim, one by ‘friendly fire’ – is NOT ‘several’.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 14, 2016 at 11:12 pm

          The implication that the police in the West represent the same kind of threat that Jihad terrorists do is simply perverse, and completely untrue.

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 13, 2016 at 8:01 pm

        My understanding is that Omar Mateen has *several* automatic weapons. He could do a lot of damage with those in a short amount of time. Pulse nightclub was very crowded. I would *not* assume that police officers caused any deaths–except for the vile Jihadist himself, of course.

        • EYESOPEN says

          Jun 13, 2016 at 9:46 pm

          Graven, see my response to “billybob” above.

        • Mark Swan says

          Jun 14, 2016 at 12:07 pm

          The rifle used is just a semi-auto, not auto, the pistol just a semi-auto, not auto.

          The Rifle used was not necessary—many other weapons could have been used.

          These particular rifles are easy to use by both female and male shooters and
          make adequate self defense weapons—they have been wrongly labeled by so
          many who do not see the future need for a well made effective defense weapon.

          There are an estimated 20-30 million lawfully owned Modern Sporting Rifles in the U.S.

          The Rifle used is owned by an estimated 5-10 million people in America.

          The bottom line is not the over 300 million legally owned guns in America.

          With an annual average of 30,000 Gun deaths, and nearly 2/3 are suicides, indicates
          that .003 % legal guns might be used in homicide.

          The imminent potential for certain elements in our society to commit gun violence is
          much more realistic to focus on than any other considered factor.

          Gun control is not merely a phony solution . It is a formidable political obstacle to genuine solutions, because gun control offers political officials a high-profile (but empty) way to tell the public that the legislature is “doing something.”

          Every gun control bill that is introduced, and every editorial demanding that we “do something about guns,” makes it that much harder to force the political system to do something real about desperate conditions and to address the fundamental social pathologies of members in modern America society.

        • Jay Boo says

          Jun 14, 2016 at 12:48 pm

          I have no problem with Democrats stating their position on Gun control and making their case. They may even have some legitimate issues such as questionable documentation at gun show sales.

          But in this case it is going to be used a cover up for Muslims behaving badly like the Benghazi FILM.

          When Obama made his gun control analogies he mentioned.
          Shootings at:
          a school (not Muslim)
          a church (not Muslim)
          a movie theatre (not Muslim)
          This is a distraction from Orlando by a (Muslim)

          He left off
          a workplace Christmas party (Muslim)
          a military base (Muslim)
          (Muslim)

        • Mark Swan says

          Jun 14, 2016 at 2:28 pm

          Jay Boo I am not sure if Mr. obama even remembers the truth as we know it.
          He is surrounded with people that tweak and twist truth that seems to fit what
          the general public has grown accustom to hearing—far more than used to
          are not buying it like it is intended.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 14, 2016 at 11:10 pm

          EYESOPEN, a Jihadist with a semi-automatic weapon can do a great deal of damage in a venue that is both peaceful and crowed.

        • Mark Swan says

          Jun 15, 2016 at 8:36 am

          Yes I Agree gravenimage

          Anyone intent on murdering a lot of Humans—could come-up with enumerate means.

        • mike says

          Jun 15, 2016 at 9:19 am

          “My understanding is that Omar Mateen has *several* automatic weapons.”

          And where did you get this bit of information? If he had several automatic weapons he did NOT use any of them in this rampage. Just like the Dem. Representative in Florida said the gun used could shoot “700 rounds a minute.” These people who want gun control do not even know what they are talking about ad they sound so foolish…except to other leftists who know nothing about guns and swallow all of the lies hook, line and sinker! They then come onto sites like this and write about the murderer used “automatic rifles” when it is completely untrue!

          Do your homework if you want gun control. At least then you sound somewhat credible if you actually know what you are talking about. I would also challenge anyone who has never been to a target range to go and shoot a gun. I promise, no matter how hard you try not to, you will have a smile on your face when you go. You may find out the gun is not the evil entity; it the murderer who used the gun that is evil and the ones we should be “banning.”

  6. Tom Davis says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    One problem not mentioned is that many states prohibit guns in establishments were alcohol is served. Perhaps the laws need to be changed to allow for ‘designated shooters’.

    Oh, and the NRA does have LBTQ members. Open your eyes.

    • Face_The_Truth says

      Jun 13, 2016 at 2:58 pm

      LGBT community loves Islam.

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 13, 2016 at 6:09 pm

        Not all of them. I have a good friend who is Gay and *very* Anti-Jihad.

        • linnte says

          Jun 13, 2016 at 6:24 pm

          Me too, and most of my gay friends are Republicans. Gun toting too.

          All I have to say is our Government will have to pry my gun from my cold dead hands before I give up my Constitutional Rights!

        • Ed Lee says

          Jun 13, 2016 at 7:32 pm

          Look up the Pink Pistols, a pro-gun organization founded by gays.

  7. Angemon says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 3:14 pm

    The deadly attack at an Orlando nightclub early Sunday is raising serious concerns among global security experts and criminologists about a convergence between terrorism and the American phenomenon of mass shootings.

    Oh, for f***’s sake. This reductionist, collectivist lenses do away with objectivity. They need to be put to rest.

    • EYESOPEN says

      Jun 13, 2016 at 9:48 pm

      Indeed Angemon.

      • Mark Swan says

        Jun 15, 2016 at 9:16 am

        Absolutely

  8. duh Swami says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 3:23 pm

    Gun control? How about some Muslim control? That gun didn’t fire itself…

    • Face_The_Truth says

      Jun 13, 2016 at 3:31 pm

      If you want Muslim-control, American govt. will not like you.

      American govt. will say, Muslim-control does not fit American values!!!

      • duh Swami says

        Jun 13, 2016 at 3:47 pm

        The current US gov can shove it…No one elected them Gods…Wait,,,Obama is close…Or so my liberal sister told me…

  9. Angemon says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 3:40 pm

    And what makes the potential convergence so terrifying, experts said, is that defending against mass shootings in public places, whether by extremists or psychopaths, is nearly impossible……

    You mean that “gun-free zones” don’t work? Gee, what a shocker!!!

  10. Shmooviyet says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 3:48 pm

    More ‘Nothing To Do With Islam’…
    Omar may have been suffering with undiagnosed bipolar disease, according to those scouring for PC- acceptable motivation.

  11. Paul Morgan says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 3:49 pm

    Obama and his cronies are not being foolish or out of touch with regard to the issues of gun control/ This is all part of a planned strategy on their part to disarm America before ramping up the campaign for the Islamic takeover of America. I have known the Obama family since 1962 and this was the strategy that his mother, a Jayhawker from eastern Kansas, already had in mind then. They model much of their strategy on Adolf Hitler’s disarming the Jews in Germany before starting their campaign of genocide. Obama’s dictatorial rule by executive order is also modeled a Hitler’s dismissal of the Weimar Republic. Why do you think that Obama’s daughter’s postponing of her study at Harvard U. for a year so that the November political disturbances in America shall have blown over. In Africa people say that U.S.A. stands for the United State of Amnesia.

    • linnte says

      Jun 13, 2016 at 6:31 pm

      US of Amnesia! Not me brother! And not my family either. I swear that some of them have a mental tally of every Governmental act to destroy us from within. I was the only Liberal holdout until I learned about Islam to prove to them it was wonderful hahahaha! BAM! Not any more. The USA does need to wake up and smell the Muslim! Eeeeww!

  12. duh Swami says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 3:57 pm

    SA…Allah the admitted terrorist lives inside the cube at Ka’aba…He only comes out at night…Spooky huh…

    • Face_The_Truth says

      Jun 13, 2016 at 3:59 pm

      Yes, Allah lives inside a cubical black shrouded house in Saudi Arabia.

      World’s Muslims go to Saudi Arabia every year to visit Allah.

      • duh Swami says

        Jun 13, 2016 at 4:18 pm

        I wonder who washes Allah’s dishes and takes out the trash?
        Someone has to wash the blood off those white robes…

        Has anyone ever washed off that black rock? Lysol is in order…

  13. Champ says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 3:58 pm

    Gun control? How about self control!

    Of course I’m speaking to those whom still possess common sense and decency, not to slaves of allah intent on jihad–not to those evil perps.

    • Robert Meechum says

      Jun 13, 2016 at 5:21 pm

      Can “self control” be translated into islam? Doubtful.

      • Champ says

        Jun 13, 2016 at 6:16 pm

        No way can common sense and *anything* to do with “islam” coexist. Impossible! 😉

  14. Ed Lee says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 4:04 pm

    Mr. Rosenwald writes about the so-called “American phenomenon of mass shootings” as if it only happens in the United States. That is demonstrably false. Last year the Charlie Hebdo massacre occurred in Paris. In 2011 Anders Breivik murdered 69 people in Norway with firearms. In 2010 Derrick Bird murdered 12 people and injured 11 more in England, with guns. And going back to 1996, we have the Dunblane massacre in Scotland. No matter how hard the media tries to obfuscate it, the fact is, this is a worldwide phenomenon.

    • Mark Swan says

      Jun 15, 2016 at 4:30 pm

      Ed You are absolutely correct.

  15. duh Swami says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 4:08 pm

    There are people who should not have gins or anything sharp…Jails, prisons and mental institutions are gun free out of necessity…In the institution I once relieved a patient of a loaded 45 cal military pistol, that his father had given him to protect himself with…Oh no, not that…The problem is that not all the screwballs are locked up…

  16. Guest says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 4:19 pm

    Yes thank you for telling us what is supposed to be obvious. If criminals were going to obey gun control laws the shooting wouldn’t have happened in the first place!

    • Mark Swan says

      Jun 15, 2016 at 9:41 am

      You Are Right

  17. gravenimage says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 4:21 pm

    Here’s an article from the Washington Post on Obama’s reaction to the Jihad terror attack in Orlando:

    “The shooting already has become a political flashpoint in the 2016 campaign, with presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump excoriating Obama’s handling of terrorism and suggesting he has been weak in confronting Islamic extremism. Trump has renewed his calls for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States from abroad.

    “The president has tried to counter such rhetoric after past mass shootings, such as the attacks in Paris, San Bernardino and Brussels. Obama also has continued to press publicly for stricter regulations on high-powered weapons — though he has not renewed his unsuccessful 2013 push for new gun-control laws, which has been fiercely opposed by most Republicans and some moderate Democrats.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-ties-debate-over-terrorism-and-guns-together-after-orlando/2016/06/13/40ca1564-317b-11e6-8758-d58e76e11b12_story.html

    Obama does not, of course, mention that Paris, San Bernardino and Brussels were all *JIhad* terror attacks. Nor, of course, does he mention that France’s and Belgium’s stricter gun control laws did *nothing* to prevent these attacks, nor does he mention that the guns used in the Jihad attack in San Bernardino were purchased by a third party.

    In other words, tougher gun control would not have prevented *any* of these attacks. But then, I doubt preventing these attacks is Obama’s goal at all…

    • Mark Swan says

      Jun 13, 2016 at 6:31 pm

      Absolutely True gravenimage, thank You.

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 13, 2016 at 8:26 pm

        Thanks, Mark.

  18. duh Swami says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 4:27 pm

    IIf you are an American, your rights are more important than liberal/leftist opinion…

  19. duh Swami says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 4:30 pm

    If vacillating politicians can alter or deny any of your rights, you had no rights to begin with…

    • Ed Lee says

      Jun 13, 2016 at 4:43 pm

      Also, note how vacillating politicians continue to insist that we live in a democracy, rather than a republic. There is another phrase synonymous with democracy: Mob rule.

      • Mark Swan says

        Jun 15, 2016 at 4:31 pm

        Yep

  20. duh Swami says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 4:38 pm

    Gun control…If there are 100 men with guns on one side of a field, and 100 unarmed men on the other, guess which group is in charge, which group will do as they are told, and which group is at the greatest risk…

  21. Michael Copeland says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 4:49 pm

    Thank you, Ms Williams, for this.
    Might I be permitted to proffer some observations?
    The “monstrous mentality of Islamic jihadists” is instructed, fostered, and cultivated in the mosques: it is not a personal aberration.
    The jihadists are not lunatics: they are observant devout muslims.
    They hate. Indeed: they are instructed to hate, to hate and to kill.
    The “violent Jihadist ideologies” are basic Islam.
    The jihadists are “doing exactly what this book says” (in Allen West’s words).

    • Mike says

      Jun 13, 2016 at 6:41 pm

      I agree with most of what you say except for the part “The jihadists are not lunatics: they are observant devout muslims.”

      Being an observant, devout muslim and murdering 50 people you do not know makes you a lunatic! What makes a devout muslim not a lunatic?

      • Michael Copeland says

        Jun 14, 2016 at 12:49 pm

        Good point. Perhaps the terms are interchangeable. The ideology involves ceremonies tied to the Moon, in Latin “luna”, hence “lunatic”.

  22. Wellington says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 6:13 pm

    Leftism and Islam have one highly significant thing in common and that is that you have no chance of thinking clearly if your are a Leftist or a Muslim until you leave Leftism or Islam.

    • Wellington says

      Jun 13, 2016 at 6:15 pm

      “…..if you are…..” and not “…..if your are…..”

  23. Bezelel says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 6:16 pm

    I for one am not going to ignore all the other weapons of mass destruction just because the hype is focusing on guns. Chemicals have been called the poor mans atom bomb, and just because some trigger happy jihadi enjoys inflicting pain, it only takes one well placed bullet to stop him. If no one else is armed then we have seen what happens. Running and screaming or shelter in place is not a game plan. Neither is increasing the odds of an attack, via increasing the number of muslims. Refusing to take measures to control the existing muslims is not a plan. “An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.” hussein obola has the blood of another 100 people on his hands and he wants to blame the guns. He hates the USA. Need more proof? Who or what is he going to blame when the jihadis use sarin gas or blow up more buildings or set off dirty nukes? This most recent bastard had security clearance.WTF?

    • Mike says

      Jun 13, 2016 at 6:34 pm

      EXCELLENT!! Well said!

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Jun 14, 2016 at 5:40 pm

      Or just set fire to a crowded building.

      Arson jihad has been attempted before now. And interestingly the target – somewhere on the west coast – was a gay nightclub at New Year’s, if I recall correctly. Luckily the fire was spotted before it ‘got away’.

      But what if this guy had just hijacked a petrol tanker and driven it full tilt into the building?

      • Bezelel says

        Jun 14, 2016 at 11:02 pm

        Yes,I believe it was Seattle. And unless we as an entire country are willing to spend a fortune on security for every potential target, and that won’t even be enough. There have been attempts to hack water treatment. I’ve suspected the uni-party has been using terrorists to justify a police state.

        • Dean says

          Jun 14, 2016 at 11:33 pm

          These types are just attracted to weapons that appear like assault rifles because the media has glamorized them. Historically, fire and explosives have been the most effective mass murder weapons and even in Orlando, what with the emergency doors being padlocked, a fire near the only exit could have killed just as many or more but without the same terrorizing effect, which is why they call it terrorism. What concerns me is that the savage recognized all the advantages of this enclosed site while FBI was surprised by it.

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 15, 2016 at 12:15 am

        DDA and Bezelel, here is that disturbing story:

        “Seattle: Muslim who said gays should be “exterminated” pleads guilty to arson at gay nightclub”

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/05/seattle-muslim-who-said-gays-should-be-exterminated-pleads-guilty-to-arson-at-gay-nightclub

        If it hadn’t been for the quick actions of some off-duty military personnel and an up-to-code sprinkler system, this would have been a deadly attack.

        • Bezelel says

          Jun 15, 2016 at 10:43 pm

          That’s the one. Since it was foiled, the left doesn’t count it as an attack.

        • Dean says

          Jun 16, 2016 at 1:09 am

          Just like the Times Square car bomb that didn’t go off and kill hundreds since the dufus terrorist didn’t know how to set the timer. Remember all the talk about his being depressed about his income woes since he was behind on his mortgage. Maybe it had something to do with 2 expensive trips to the Mideast and why worry about a house payment when you are intending to use your vehicle in the bombing attack.

  24. Mike says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 6:33 pm

    Once again we see the knee-jerk reaction of Obama and the left. Obama wants guns gone so he would never have to worry about an armed uprising from Americans. Anytime a gun is employed in a murder it is always the gun that is the homo-phobe, islamaphobe, or hater. It would be ridiculously funny if this were a skit on Saturday Night Live where they talk about a gun that has these feeeeeelllllings. You see, the gun MAKES the shooter do it. The gun has some kind of vulcan-mind-meld over the shooter in all of these cases.

    When global cooling, I mean global warming, whoops, I mean climate change became vogue, you could read an article where “an SUV killed 4 people today,” or “an SUV slammed into a crowded sidewalk’ etc. It was always the hated SUV that sought out people to kill. Why? Because we all know SUVs were/are evil. They spew their hate out of their tail pipes and will murder indiscriminate groups of people or go after those peaceful little Toyota Priuses, trying to maim a toyota because it is soooo…nice.

    Now the hateful person (yes, that’s right person. The left gives person-hood to guns) is the gun and the most hated is the “assault rifle.” The one that is reproduced to only do evil. If ONLY the left could somehow figure out how to abort an assault rifle like they do children then they would be so happy! The problem for the left? That nasty second amendment giving that gun the right to live. They are trying their best to figure out how to get around that “right to life” for a gun just like they did for human beings.

    How can they take away this right? By giving an inanimate object human qualities!! They can murder human babies as a right so they just need to make the gun as human as possible and take away its “right to life.” The problem the let has not figured out? There are those on the right who will work hard to protect this “right to life;” harder than people do to save a baby (unfortunately). The right could take a clue from protecting the gun right and apply that to the right for a baby to live (but I digress, sorry).

    Soo Obama gets on the TV and sounds like a moron for talking about the “evil” gun and Hillary sounds evil for wanting to take away the gun from those who have done nothing wrong (but the left kills babies who have done nothing wrong) with their friendly gun. The left makes all guns automatically evil and decides those who care for and nurture a gun have no right to do so and no right to use their gun for good by killing terrorists or rapists or robbers or anyone who threatens them, their family or community. No, the left makes the good gun owner bad and the bad gun owner not responsible for what his/her gun did. Yes, that’s right. The good gun owner is automatically a hater while the bad gun owner is never responsible for their bad gun!! (Kind of like taking away my well trained, docile pit bull because the guy down the street trained his pit bull to kill. The left KNOWS I want to kill but the owner of the killer dog is no blamed for his dog killing. Yes, THAT is the left’s “logic)

    I am sure all of you out there think this is ridiculous post and you would; you are common sense people who understand the lunacy of the left. But to defeat the left we have to TRY and “think” like them (I know it can be nearly impossible to do but we must try). Just make sure you give human qualities to ANYTHING the left hates that is made out of metal or any man-made-material. On the other hand, the left hates little babies then you have to make sure you think “It is NOT a human but a mass of cells,” much like an appendix or tonsils and has no rights. Confusing isn’t it. THAT is the “logic” of the left.

    • Bezelel says

      Jun 13, 2016 at 9:28 pm

      Is that why Scar Face said,”Let me introduce you to my little friend” ?

  25. More Ham Ed says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 7:43 pm

    The furthest-left article I’ve come-across yet is this NY Daily-Skews article:

    http://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2016/06/13/ny-daily-news-blames-nra-rather-than-islamic-terror/

  26. Ciudadano says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 10:07 pm

    I’m from Costa Rica. Here it is very hard for a regular citizen to get a hand gun because of the many regulations. However that doesn’t stop criminal gangs acquiring AK-47’s and other heavy weapons. I can understand a person who wants to have a hand gun for self defense. Honestly, I don’t think any regular civilian should have an AR-15 style weapon.

    What I don’t understand is why so many people think this terrorist attack could’ve been stopped by gun regulation. Terrorists get weapons in the black market (Paris, Belgium), they make bombs (Boston), they use knives (Israel), airplanes, cars, fertilizers.

    Terrorism and gun control are separate issues. No matter what you think about gun control regulation, it is not relevant to terrorists.

    So far it is evident that this guy could’ve been stopped by the people who knew him better: parents, ex-wife, ex-employer, his imam, the FBI. It seems every body was afraid of denouncing this guy, just like the neighbors of the SB terrorists. Now after the incident, MSM and authorities refuse to dig into his personal believes and influences, what turned him in to such a homophobic person and killer? It’s like they already know the answer and are afraid of facing it.

  27. Dum Spiro says

    Jun 13, 2016 at 10:27 pm

    Here’s a similar article:
    The Great Gun-Control Distraction (by David French; June 13, 2016, 2:30pm)

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/436545/orlando-shootings-gun-control-nra-not-our-enemy-isis-is-enemy

    Maybe more people will begin to think more clearly…
    –Spero

  28. Bridget Ames says

    Jun 14, 2016 at 2:23 am

    From the same group that implemented “Fast and Furious” I could see where allowing a man who was under deep investigation to get a hold of firearms could fit into their aim to do away with guns.
    However, my father said the statement “I can’t believe not one of those people had a gun on them”.
    I responded ” I can they were a bunch of liberals in a gun free zone”. But unfortunately gun-free zones create soft-targets.

  29. siesmann says

    Jun 14, 2016 at 4:09 am

    Gun ownership should never be questioned,but the guns of military grade ,and those that shoot scores of bullets need controlled.
    BTW Trump always talks about second Amendment,and in the same breath talks of repealing 1st Amendment( Banning of newspapers and news personnel).He is a bigot and won’t do anything he promises.

    • linnte says

      Jun 14, 2016 at 11:19 am

      Siesman, the point of the 2nd Amendment isn’t so people can play with guns and go hunting. The point is for the common man/woman to have the ability to defend themselves against invasion and against a tyrannical GOVERNMENT. Like ours. That includes protection against the army, navy, Marines and air force should they decide to collaborate with Government in case of a Revolution started by the people. If Government has automatic rifles then the population should have equal to armament. All we the people are allowed in actuality is semi-automatic weapons (which can be altered if need be to be automatic). Any acceptance of anything less leaves We The People defenseless.

  30. garegin says

    Jun 14, 2016 at 6:15 am

    I love that aftet 9/11 lettists would chant the famous slogan by ben franklin about liberty and security. But when it comes to guns they mock people for worshipping the constitution.
    What they don’t see is that liberty is a narrow path and has victims. There are always excuses that gov’t can make. That’s why no communist country had free speech. The same way that genocide denial is illegal in many European countries and they want to make ‘revenge porn’ illegal too.

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