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Irked Turks warn Germany over Armenian Genocide vote

Jun 1, 2016 5:46 pm By Robert Spencer

Islamic supremacists never, ever acknowledge evil done in the name of Islam and in accord with its teaching. As far as they’re concerned, nothing that reflects poorly on Islam ever actually happened, or if it did, it wasn’t perpetrated by Muslims. And now the Turks feel emboldened in Germany because of Merkel’s appeasement and accommodation, and so the demands continue.

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“Turkey warns Germany over Armenian Genocide vote,” by Siranush Ghazanchyan, Public Radio of Armenia, May 30, 2016

Turkey has criticized plans by Germany’s parliament to recognize the World War I killings of Armenians as genocide, the Associated Press reports.

Germany’s parliament is to hold a vote on a motion describing the deaths as genocide this week.

Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Numan Kurtulmus said Monday that Germany — home to a large Turkish community — should “act with caution.”

He said parliaments should not decide on history and that all countries should make documents available to historians so they can shed light on the killings.

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  1. Warren Raymond says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 5:54 pm

    Surat Al-‘Anfal [verse 17] – And you did not kill them, but it was Allah who killed them. And you threw not, [O Muhammad], when you threw, but it was Allah who …

    Allah did it. No Turkish Muslim can commit genocide. (Tayyip Erdogan)

    • mortimer says

      Jun 1, 2016 at 7:27 pm

      Germany was behind the calling of a general jihad against the Allied Powers in November 1914, The general fatwa of the sultan was the idea of German aristocrat Baron Max von Oppenheim. The Germans were more or less behind the Turkish racial supremacist movement that led to the genocide of 3 million Christian Ottoman subjects. Some among the Arabs reportedly referred to Baron Oppenheim as Abu Jihad (“Father of Holy War”). In late 1915, British High Commissioner in Cairo Henry McMahon claimed in a report that Oppenheim had been making speeches in mosques approving of the massacre of Armenians initiated by the Young Turk government earlier that year.

      It is right for Germany to repudiate this horrendous tragedy and denounce Germany’s role in causing it.

      • Avenger says

        Jun 2, 2016 at 11:30 am

        Excellent post Mortimer. The German government could have easily stopped this Christian extermination. Catholics were untouched in the empire while Orthodox Christians were murdered nation wide.
        Germans living in Turkey at the time inadvertently documented the Turkish barbarity, which now gives the world body proof of genocide.

    • Lia says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 3:20 am

      I love the concept of ‘irked turks’: that is so the normal mindset of the unregenerate muslim: irked, enraged, furious, vengeful …

  2. Keith says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    Hope the UK government follows suit soon. In fact they should have had it recognised as genocide years ago.

    • mortimer says

      Jun 1, 2016 at 7:30 pm

      This is a good year to do it. Turkey is supporting ISIS and causing the genocide of the Kurdish people now.

      There will be no end to Turkey’s racism until the country is dismantled.

      • Lia says

        Jun 2, 2016 at 3:24 am

        Good for Germany! What happens now to the millions of euros Mrs Merkel is paying Mr Erdogan to keep the refugees in Turkey? Is he going to hold the numbers of refugees as a blackmail weapon over the West to give him access to NATO?

        • maghan says

          Jun 2, 2016 at 5:38 am

          Turkey is already in NATO, Do you mean access to the EU?

        • Dom1 says

          Jun 2, 2016 at 12:02 pm

          Turkey has Germany by its teutonic balls and by association the rest of the EU.
          The head of the German Home security service and the head of the German Police said yesterday that the young Muslims let in by the traitor Merkel are being confronted, brainwashed and radicalised by Islamists who are poisoning their minds against Germany. How much more evidence do Germans need before throwing out this treacherous government. Are they waiting for an atrocity in Germany to happen ??
          .The next election is not soon enough, the danger is immediate !!
          Britains need to reject this embryo state effectively run by Merkel and VOTE LEAVE ON 23RD JUNE !!!

  3. Idania Fraginals says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 6:27 pm

    “Fight those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, and do not practice the religion of truth, even if they are of the People of the Book — until they pay the jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.” — Qur’an 9:29
    The “religion of peace” declares, “Islam was spread by the sword….Allah true religion
    should be spread by the sword”.
    What is the excuse of liberal to condone the islamization of the Western World. Do they want to be conquered?

  4. nicu says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 6:39 pm

    Turks , demand and warn and blackmail and Merkel let it happen !

  5. Angemon says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 7:48 pm

    Turkey warns Germany over Armenian Genocide vote

    And this is while they should be on their best behaviour to pledge entry in the EU.

    • umbra says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 3:59 am

      Making the recognition of the Armenian genocide as another prerequisite for EU ascension should be a sure fire way to keep turkey from Europe – at least while erdogan or his party is in charge).

  6. R Cole says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 8:28 pm

    The German-Turks warn Germany should ‘act with caution’!

    What are they going to do – revolt by getting a job!! Reports say some 80% German Turks live off the state.

    And on this state funding they are allowed to travel to Turkey – through arranged marriages – bring their spouses back to live together in Germany off the welfare state!!

    It is said German-Turks are not integrated – because for the most part they just live in Germany!

    https://youtu.be/0jD6CN6uGZs

    ::

    Across Europe it has become almost impossible to teach Muslim kids about the holocaust. I think in some schools, Germany has stopped teaching it – where it might offend Muslim sensibilities.

    ::

    Erdogan has stated, “No Muslim can commit a genocide.”

    If Erdogan is so offended – by the German’s recognition of the Armenian genocide – and he decides to flood Europe with migrants again – Europe should see it for what it is – an invasion.

    Which is what this migrant crisis has largely been. What refugee flow is made up of 80% male? And young men at that.

    A European force should have long been in place to turn the migrant boats back – before they enter EU waters or step one foot on EU soil. And further with the amount of money that will be spent on housing and living expenses of these new migrants and their families who will join them – for generations to come – the EU could have significantly improved conditions in the refugee camps in the Middle East.

    ::

    Possible Merkel revolt in the air?

    Here’s a former German intelligence officer talking sense:

    Turkey is exerting its influence on members of the German parliament with a campaign run by the Turkish Embassy in Berlin. This is gross interference in German domestic affairs, says former German intelligence officer Rainer Rupp.

    RP: I don’t agree with you, Germany is only at a dead end because the coalition still sticks to Angela Merkel’s policy. We wouldn’t have those problems if we dealt the same way with the refugee problem, for instance, as our neighbor Austria is dealing with it. But because Angela Merkel can’t be wrong, this is why in the whole of Germany the internal tensions are pushed to the brink. [RT]

    • Celtic says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 9:16 am

      The turks are well known in Germany for their primitive behaviour.

  7. Joanne Smith says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 9:56 pm

    Germany needs to recognize its own complicity in the Armenian genocide. They were allies with the Ottoman Empire and some of the photographic evidence of the Armenian genocide was recorded by German officers accompanying the Ottomans while endlessly marching the Armenians to their deaths. It is no stretch of the imagination that the German government learned how to commit systematic mass genocide by assisting the Ottoman Empire in their almost complete annihilation of the Armenian people after WWI.

    • Vrae says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 12:51 pm

      The version of this story I read has them writing this into the bill itself.

      Turks are just upset that you say it happened at all.

    • marsfeld says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 3:45 pm

      German complicity was recognized and condemned in the cited Resolution debate, some isolated critical german voices like Bernstein and Liebknecht honoured. (Not so sure Liebknecht actually deserves that much honour, though.)

      Here’s some more information on the Bundestag discussion, unfortunately in german:

      http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article155908117/Den-groessten-Beifall-erntet-ein-Solidaritaetsaufruf.html

      Incompetent and disastrous cowards Merkel, Gabriel, Steinmeier disgustingly stayed away from the debate not to disrupt their cozy symbiotic relationship with their new master Erdolf’s rectum.

  8. linnte says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 11:56 pm

    “home to a large Turkish community”. Not German Turks, but Turks in Germany. Merkel needs to be removed!

    • jayell says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 1:51 am

      Surely if you”re talking about ‘German Turks’ then that effectively means just ‘Turks in Germany’ as opposed to ‘Turkish Germans’, which would suggest people who properly identify with Germany but who just happen to have a Turkish background from the past – and IN the past. The latter would present no problems since these (Turkish) Germans would automatically toe the line and respect German values as their own. Not so with the former, since as they remain basically ‘Turks’, they would represent an alien presence with all the destructive and destabilising influence that suggests. We have something similar in the UK with our ethnic minorities being given the status of majorities, getting too big for their bootd snd putting peoples’ backs up.

      By the way, I like Mr. Spencer’s title to this piece. So what does it take to ‘irk a Turk’? Not much, apparently. And if they’re going to throw their weight around like this now, what happens when they’re in the EU? Roll on Brexit!

      ..

  9. Jay Boo says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 1:42 am

    Truth
    From flower its fruit
    From fruit a seed
    From seed a new flower.

    Everlasting truth
    renewed

  10. Andra says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 1:54 am

    Impotant members of the governmet – Merkel, Steinmeier and I think Gabriel and de Maiziere – won´t show up at the vote. That´´s quite a statement of coweredness and untruthfullness. And thiis kind of people are in power. Frightening.

  11. Charli Main says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 2:18 am

    ” should make documents available to historians so they can shed light on the killings.”

    Turkey will produce documents, recently found in Uncle Abdul´s attic, showing that the Armenian Genocide was the work of the Jewooos and that the local Muslims fought desperately to protect them.

    • Sam says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 6:04 am

      Yes. I am from Turkey and I know most Turkish history that is tought at schools is fabricated as Ataturk had wanted a new proud Turkish state. He had to lie ofcourse.

      • Denny Abrahamsson says

        Jun 2, 2016 at 11:56 am

        God Bless, an honest turk. They are rare.

  12. Baucent says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 5:52 am

    Well overdue to put the spotlight on this dirty crime.For decades the Western powers have tip toed around trying not to offend the Turks, once considered a vital NATO ally. Even Israel viewed Turkey as a muslim friend in the recent past. Turkey under Erdogan is reviving Islam, rolling back the secular state and fostering dreams of reviving the Ottoman Empire. For all these reasons Turkey is no longer a reliable friend of the West and actively works against it as an “enabler” (as Trump might say) of muslim migration into European nations. Time to show solidarity with the Armenians and all Christians and Jews persecuted by the Turks. And if it enrages Erdogan, so much the better.

  13. ich says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 8:54 am

    UK should leave and Turkey can join.

    Then UK can watch Europe dissolve.

  14. Florida Jim says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 9:16 am

    Every muslim on earth is preparing for Jihad, Sharia, Beheading enemies and flooding other countries with the scum from their shores.If they were honorable they would admit Islam is a violent hateful political party and not a religion at all. Jesus Christ tells everyone to love they neighbor as thyself and Love They God. This is so much different than Islam where hatred is taught by Imams in Mosques everywhere to three year olds.Is there on e successful muslim immigration to anywhere that didn’t turn into jihad? I do not believe there is at best is simply waiting to begin as is has worldwide since the 7th century.
    A challenge from an ex-muslim exposing The Prophet.

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm

  15. Bear Tom says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 10:02 am

    Dear Robert,

    You will recall another good example of this Muslim denial in 2011 when France, God bless her, exasperated by the arrogance of the Turks, went to put into law an act which would make illegal the denial of the Armenian Genocide. Turkey threatened to recall its Ambassador and freeze ties with France. President Sarkozy of France was dubbed “Satan Sarkozy”, a “racist” and an “islamophobe” by the Turkish press. The whole country was up in arms against the French. For more than 30 years Armenia and the Armenian diaspora have been campaigning for official recognition of the genocide without success.

    But, my dear friend, that is not all. The Young (Al Shabaab=theyoung) Turk Jihadists, with the assistance of Muslim Kurds, Chechens and Circassians carried out another Christian massacre between 1914 and 1918. This is called the Assyrian Genocide. According to figures published by the Treaty of Lausanne, 300,000 Christians were slaughtered. That is 1/2 of the entire Assyrian people were slaughtered. From 1918 to 1920, Arab Militias happily carried on the massacre.

    But that’s not all! There is also the Pontic Greek Genocide. The Young Turks, keen to wipe out Christianity, also carried out a systematic cleansing of the Christian Ottoman Greek population in Asia Minor, Anatolia, and Pontus. These things are hard to believe, but they are strictly in accord with Koranic teaching. Between 1914 and 1923, the world saw massacres, death marches, and the destruction of all Christian Orthodox cultural, historic and religious monuments. In 1922, the British Foreign Minister reported that more than 1,000,000 (a million) Greeks had been killed in cold blood, without the slightest provocation. The same as happened to the over 1,500,000 Armenians, and the 300,000 Assyrians.

    Now, if you are good at sums, you can count nearly 3,000,000 Christians of Syrian, Armenian and Greek origin slaughtered by the Al-Shabaab Turks. Why? Because the Koran says to do it. And the Eu wants to invite Muslims into their communities?

  16. Jay Boo says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 10:07 am

    Qur’an is genocide and moral degradation posing as revelation.

  17. Denny Abrahamsson says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 11:49 am

    The swedish parliament voted 2010 to acknowledge the genocide but the government didnt listen. Instead the rightwing primeminister phoned Erdogan to say he didnt agree with his parliament. Now we have a red/green government and Stefan Löfven, our new primeminister, promised 2014 that he should stand by his vote from 2010 but he chickened out. Im so ashamed of my cowardly government.

  18. Abu Al-Dente says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 12:44 pm

    Erdogan and his gang are the biggest crybabies on Earth.
    More news at 12.

  19. David Nelson says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 11:13 pm

    Government Can’t seem to pin point The Problem

    The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
    The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
    The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
    The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
    The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
    The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
    The Bali Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
    The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
    The Moscow Theater Attackers were Muslims
    The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
    The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
    The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
    The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
    The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
    The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
    The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
    The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
    The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
    The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
    The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
    The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
    The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
    The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
    The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
    The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims

    Think of it:

    Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
    Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
    Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
    Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
    Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
    Confucians living with Baha’is = No Problem
    Baha’is living with Jews = No Problem
    Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
    Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
    Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
    Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
    Hindus living with Baha’is = No Problem
    Baha’is living with Christians = No Problem
    Christians living with Jews = No Problem
    Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
    Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
    Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
    Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
    Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

    Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
    Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
    Muslims living with Christians = Problem
    Muslims living with Jews = Problem
    Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
    Muslims living with Baha’is = Problem
    Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
    Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
    MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

    **********SO THIS LEADS TO *****************

    They’re not happy in Gaza
    They’re not happy in Egypt
    They’re not happy in Libya
    They’re not happy in Morocco
    They’re not happy in Iran
    They’re not happy in Iraq
    They’re not happy in Yemen
    They’re not happy in Afghanistan
    They’re not happy in Pakistan
    They’re not happy in Syria
    They’re not happy in Lebanon
    They’re not happy in Nigeria
    They’re not happy in Kenya
    They’re not happy in Sudan

    ******** So, where are they happy? **********
    They’re happy in Australia
    They’re happy in England
    They’re happy in Belgium
    They’re happy in France
    They’re happy in Italy
    They’re happy in Germany
    They’re happy in Sweden
    They’re happy in the USA & Canada
    They’re happy in Norway & India
    They’re happy in almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do
    they blame? Not Islam… Not their leadership… Not themselves…
    THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!
    And they want to change the countries they’re happy in, to be like the
    countries they came from where they were unhappy.

    Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    ISIS : AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

    And somehow we just can’t figure out what’s causing the problem….

  20. Kon says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 6:20 am

    Turkey has a history of massacring minorities look at the Kurds to which neither gutless USA or Nato does anything about.
    Apart from the Armenian Genocide there was the Pontic Greek Genocide, the Assyrian Genocide, the September 1955 pogrom of the Greeks of Constantinople and expulsion in 1963, the 1922 Asia minor massacres, Alevi injustices and it continues. The pressure needs to be put on the Turkish government so that it can join humanity and to say sorry for it’s crimes and to pay reparations. May 19 is Pontic Greek Genocide Remembrance Day. Never Forget.
    Mr Erdogan stop being a Turk and become a human first like all the other normal humans with empathy.

    Three things that cannot be hidden for long the Sun, The Moon and The Truth. Paraphrase of Buddhist Saying

  21. dumbledoresarmy says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 9:39 am

    It passed.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-02/german-lawmakers-pass-resolution-calling-armenian-massacres-22/7472904

  22. dumbledoresarmy says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 9:44 am

    the interesting thing is that the term “genocide” was in fact *created* by a Jewish historian writing about the mass-murder of the Armenian Christians by Muslims (mainly Turks, but also Kurds and Arabs into the bargain, all enthusiastically slaughtering, robbing, torturing, mutilating and raping).

    I quote, from the wiki entry on the genocide of the Armenians:

    “Raphael Lemkin was explicitly moved by the Armenian annihilation to define systematic and premeditated exterminations within legal parameters and to coin the word genocide in 1943”.

    It’s a bit rich for the Turkish Muslims to try to pretend it wasn’t a genocide when it was **the event that prompted the *creation* of the word ‘genocide’** in the first place!!

    • linnte says

      Jun 4, 2016 at 12:30 am

      This is an amazing thing what Germany has done. There is so much world history that I am oblivious to. Thanks for the info and the link General Dumbledore! ?

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