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NY Times: Orlando jihad massacre has spoiled Ramadan for young NY Muslims

Jun 18, 2016 6:47 pm By Robert Spencer

“Salwa’s mother, Manar Al Ahamar, said that in April, outside a pharmacy in Bay Ridge, an older woman had confronted her, telling her to go back to her country and cursing her in front of her 10-year-old son, Ahmed.” That’s a shame. If it happened, it is unfortunate. Retailing it after the murder of 49 people in the name of Allah and Islam and in accord with the command of Muhammad to kill homosexuals, however, is simply grotesque.

The New York Times in this piece continues the mainstream media’s ongoing tendency to characterize Muslims as the victims of jihad mass murder attacks. Where are the Times’ stories about how the relatives of those murdered in Omar Mateen’s jihad attack are faring?

New York Muslims

“Orlando Killings Rob Young New York Muslims of a Cherished Holiday Respite,” by Liz Robbins, New York Times, June 18, 2016:

For Muhammad Hannan and other Muslim high school students in New York City, this has been a Ramadan of contrasts and conflicting emotions.

The joy of breaking a 16-hour fast with the first bite of a sweet date. The horror of hearing about the attack on a gay nightclub in Florida that left 49 dead. The drudgery of reviewing a year’s worth of earth sciences and trigonometry notes. The frustration of defending Islam — and the right to be in this country — after another terrorist attack carried out in the name of the Islamic State.

“I just don’t get it,” said Muhammad, a 17-year-old junior at Abraham Lincoln High School in Coney Island, Brooklyn, who immigrated from Pakistan with his family in 2014. “Islam is all about peace. In Ramadan, we don’t even curse. You’re not supposed to do anything bad.”

Ramadan is usually Muhammad’s favorite time. This year, though, the holiday, which encompasses a month of fasting from dawn to dusk, has not offered its usual refuge. Already, Ramadan coincided with the Regents, the series of state tests that most high school students in New York take.

Then on Sunday, a Muslim man born in New York, Omar Mateen, called 911 to proclaim his allegiance to ISIS and opened fire in the Pulse nightclub in Orlando.

Within a day, Donald J. Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, was renewing his call to ban Muslims from entering the United States.

And the day after that, another student in Muhammad’s English class started echoing Mr. Trump’s call.

“He was talking a lot of bad things, with no proof,” Muhammad said of the classmate. Muhammad replied that there were differences between Muslims like Muhammad Ali and those like Omar Mateen.

“If you can tell the difference between white people and K.K.K., you can at least differentiate between Muslims and ISIS,” Muhammad recalled arguing in class.

How did that student respond? “He said, ‘Because Donald Trump said so,’” Muhammad said. “Everybody in the class was laughing.”

Salwa Mozzeb, 15, who is finishing her freshman year at Millennium Brooklyn High School in Park Slope soundly dismissed Mr. Trump’s proposal. “That’s messed up,” she said on Tuesday, wearing a hijab and speaking in a brassy Brooklyn accent. A naturalized United States citizen, she came with her mother from Syria when she was 9 months old. “I was raised here,” she said. “America is my home.”

Salwa lives in a Bay Ridge apartment with her parents, grandmother and four younger siblings; she has uncles and cousins who live in the same building and on the same block. She volunteers at the Arab American Association of New York, whose headquarters are in Bay Ridge. Her mother, who is from Syria, has a brother who escaped the civil war there and made his way to Sweden. Another relative has been waiting 10 years for a visa to enter the United States.

Once populated largely by Scandinavian immigrants, as well as those of Italian and Irish heritage, Bay Ridge has been transformed like so much of New York. There are nine mosques in the area now, according to Tony Carnes, a sociologist who publishes an online journal, “A Journey Through N.Y.C. Religions.” Many of the store signs on the avenues are written in Arabic.

After the killings in Orlando, Salwa’s father, Abdulnoor Mozzeb, 39, a naturalized American citizen originally from Yemen, warned his daughter to be especially careful on the subway, and to sit near the conductor. The idea annoyed her. “I’m just like any other 15-year-old here,” she said. “I want to hang out and chill. I don’t want to stress about feeling like I’m different because I’m Muslim.”

Mr. Mozzeb approved of her convictions. “She’s strong,” he said. “When it comes to your identity, somebody is going to disrespect you, you got to stand up.”

Salwa’s mother, Manar Al Ahamar, said that in April, outside a pharmacy in Bay Ridge, an older woman had confronted her, telling her to go back to her country and cursing her in front of her 10-year-old son, Ahmed.

Ms. Al Ahamar, 32, said she had just walked away, but had gotten so upset later that her blood pressure soared and she began to have severe chest pains. Salwa had helped her mother into in an ambulance. It was not until Wednesday that her mother revealed what had caused the emergency.

Salwa did not understand how a woman could verbally attack her mother, especially in what she considers her own neighborhood. “If she doesn’t want to be surrounded by Muslims,” Salwa said, “why is she in this community?’”…

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  1. Jaladhi says

    Jun 18, 2016 at 7:05 pm

    Oh poor Muslim kids their ramadan was spoiled by their own. Ah but what about those 49 souls who were murdered – nothing for them is “spoiled”. These idiots at NYTimes have no idea of compassion for the murdered souls and worry about poor Muslims. But this is what their hate manual Quran teaches to kill infidels in the month of ramadan and later. NYTimes won’t comment on Quran – hypocrites!1

    • Mockingjay says

      Jun 18, 2016 at 7:34 pm

      Exactly!

    • berserker says

      Jun 18, 2016 at 9:16 pm

      – There is a mosque at the center of every one of these attacks. Why does not the NYT ask why the so-called “good ones” at the mosques do not turn the “bad ones” in?
      – Muslims only care about themselves and their bloody religion. The appeasement only emboldens them. Here they are killing the infidels with abandon and the Dhimmis are only interested in the welfare of those doing the killing.

    • mortimer says

      Jun 19, 2016 at 6:23 am

      Jaladhi wrote: “their ramadan was spoiled by their own”

      This is revealed in a number of articles out there now. Muslims are for the first time shuddering as they witness real jihad in action. They are more and more horrified and many are quietly asking if they want to be part of it.

      • Jaladhi says

        Jun 19, 2016 at 9:40 am

        Come on Mort, Muslims are not horrified by jihad. Quietly they celebrate it and outwardly they show fake sign of grief for their own possible backlash which has never happened. If anybody who have been victims of backlash after Muslim terrorism its the members of Sikh community in US who have been killed in many “recored” incidents.

        Muslims are not “horrified” by these killings but they rejoice it at the victories of Muslim army in the US and they are part of it wholeheartedly or they would have been doing something to control all these imams giving lessons of Mohammad’s terror on non-Muslims.

      • dts says

        Jun 19, 2016 at 11:04 am

        I really, really hope you’re right, Mortimer. However, do you think that maybe while the parents may be horrified, many of the kids are excited? There’s been a lot of talk about the phenomenon of “second generation jihadis”. To me, they seem like a lot of hipsters who want to rediscover their roots and start playing folk instruments – except the folk instruments here are Kalashnikovs, pressure cooker bombs, box cutters, American flags with pole attached like in Georgia, et alia.

        • LR says

          Jun 19, 2016 at 8:00 pm

          ‘dts’…

          Only ‘kids’ where something is psychologically off, get excited about barbarity.

          If their Muslim parents stress education, are ‘cultural Muslims’, like many are, have a loving home, good friends, no attitude against jews etc., I’m not going to worry.

          If kids are relatively sane, and want to live a ‘normal’ life, they won’t go off into barbaric jihad.

        • Anne Smith says

          Jun 20, 2016 at 10:30 am

          Possibly many of those leaving UK to fight for ISIS are doing so because they are bored stiff with dreary suburban lives, stacking shelves in Poundland and being under the thumb of their older relatives. Going to fight in a war probably seems thrilling, lots of chances of rape and pillage, the feeling of being important, ordering victims around, beats watching TV every night.

    • IQ al Rassooli says

      Jun 19, 2016 at 7:45 am

      These in the NY Times are NOT idiots!

      They are CRIMINALS and ENEMIES of the American people. They know exactly what they are doing

      No decent American should buy this despicable Muslim grovelling rag. Not one

      When enough Americans wake up to the Media TRAITORS among us, they will stop watching and or reading the products of such organizations that will cause their economic demise

      The NY Times supports ONLY Muslims & Islam: Not Christians being slaughtered all over the world by MUSLIMS! Not Jews, Hindus, Israelis or Buddhists either. All NY Times is concerned about is ‘the feelings of Muslims’ who are actually the eternal and publicly declared enemies of every human being on the planet who is NOT a Muslim

      NY Times owners and editors have NO Shame, Decency, Compassion or Loyalty for the American people

      IQ al Rassooli
      Kafir & Proud!

      • Jaladhi says

        Jun 19, 2016 at 9:43 am

        Your analysis of NYTimes and its ilk is spot on!!

        I like your following comments:
        “These in the NY Times are NOT idiots!

        They are CRIMINALS and ENEMIES of the American people. They know exactly what they are doing”

        • IQ al Rassooli says

          Jun 19, 2016 at 10:08 am

          Thank you Jaladhi

          Not a single person on JW can ever be deceived or defeated regarding the subjects of Muhammad and Islam

          WE are the foremost authorities on the subjects superior to any so called scholar of Islam or pundit in the news media or academia

          If only many more of our leaders in Politics and or Media would listen to us

          WE “Shall Overcome” the greatest threat humanity is facing: Fundamentalist Muhammadan Islam with or without Weapons of Mass Destruction!

          IQ al Rassooli
          Kafir & Proud!

      • Abu Nudnik says

        Jun 19, 2016 at 12:52 pm

        But the Democratic Party keeps it afloat in red ink, and it keeps the Democratic Party afloat with disinformation. The general level of ignorance of the public is not their fault. They are too busy to check information. They trust, and their trust is being betrayed.

    • خَليفة says

      Jun 19, 2016 at 4:07 pm

      It was spoiled.
      Imagine you are a Muslim…
      You want to be the first to get your name in the paper as a great martyr in your holy month of Ramadan

      When someone beats you too it, naturally, your Ramadan is ruined.

  2. linnte says

    Jun 18, 2016 at 7:15 pm

    “If she doesn’t want to be surrounded by Muslims, why is she in this community”. A shocking thought! Surely, why would she remain in that community? MAYBE BECAUSE SHE WAS BORN THERE? Maybe because in a few short years her whole existence has been transformed into little Middle East? This person’s response to the aboriginal woman, a normal Muslim response, instead of thinking “We have moved in on her place”. No empathy, no analysis of why this woman would be frustrated enough to speak to the Muslim woman, a stranger, in such a way. Just me me me me me.

    • Len Vaness says

      Jun 18, 2016 at 8:23 pm

      Thank you for catching that point…as though ‘this community’ belonged to Muslims.

      • Kathy Brown, Esq. says

        Jun 18, 2016 at 9:07 pm

        Amen to that, Linnte and Len!

        Bay Ridge is in Brooklyn, NYC. In NJ and NYC, there are tons of people who lost loved ones to the muslim savages on 9/11.

        So I couldn’t disagree more with Robert’s statement, i.e., ‘If it happened, it is unfortunate.’ Every single person from that area is entitled to their opinion. And in this case: I heartily agree with the lady who excoriated this muslim. As for ‘her 10 year old son, Ahmed’, he’s no doubt a jihadist in training.

        Muslims here in the USA should fall to their knees in thanksgiving that-unlike them and their murdering prophet (pee be upon him)-all we do is VERBALLY abuse them.

        And they richly deserve every syllable of opprobrium heaped upon them.

      • linnte says

        Jun 18, 2016 at 11:34 pm

        Len, thanks for noticing and the thanks! There are so many wise people here and I really feel they are good teachers too. I am learning!

      • Carolyne says

        Jun 19, 2016 at 10:14 am

        Oh no, Oh no, Ramadan is spoiled for these barbarians. If biting into a date brings joy, imagine what joy they must feel when they kill Americans.

        I enjoy the occasional BLT, but I can’t say it brings me joy.

    • Greyhound Fancier says

      Jun 18, 2016 at 9:32 pm

      Just what I was thinking, as well as, “Maybe she can’t afford to move, in order to escape having to live in Little Syria”.

      • Polk1970 says

        Jun 18, 2016 at 11:45 pm

        Syria came to her.

    • Cecilia Ellis says

      Jun 18, 2016 at 10:01 pm

      In truth, Linnte, I doubt that the incident happened. I suspect that Salwa has a great “backlash imagination,” one which curiously is devoid of empathy for the Orlando victims who were killed or wounded, the survivors, or the friends and families of all those who were in the Pulse that horrific night, either as targets or rescuers.

      Regretfully, there is no such thing as Muslims Anonymous, a meeting place at which those addicted to whining about historically non-existent backlash may seek solace among those who reap the Islamic whirlwind.

      “For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.” (Hosea 8:7)

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 18, 2016 at 10:48 pm

      Yes–I noticed this, as well. This Muslimah is claiming part of New York City as a Muslim No Go Zone.

      • linnte says

        Jun 18, 2016 at 11:40 pm

        That’s what I gathered from those words Graven. It made my stomach sink! I don’t know what I expected? It would be interesting to be able to travel all over to big cities and film someone like me or any white older person, wandering into a No Go Zone here in the USA. See just how they would treat a more frail person not a solid young person. Man, I get so FRUSTRATED that I can’t DO anything.

        • Carolyne says

          Jun 19, 2016 at 10:16 am

          You could do that, linnte, but you’d better bring some armed guards.

      • Polk1970 says

        Jun 18, 2016 at 11:47 pm

        ssshhh,
        Don’t give DiBlasio any ideas

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 18, 2016 at 11:58 pm

        Yes, this is sickening.

        Bay Ridge is known as “Little Palestine”. Here are Muslims taking over the street for supremacist Muslim prayer:

        https://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2016/03/01/new-york-muslims-take-over-brooklyn-street-for-islamic-prayers-cops-watch-video/

        They are also blasting “Allahu Akbar” from speakers. Police are just impotently standing by.

        And this is not the only No Go Zone in Brooklyn–the Midwood neighborhood is known as “Little Pakistan, and part of Bedford–Stuyvesant is known as “Little Senegal”.

        • SBJ says

          Jun 19, 2016 at 12:07 am

          They’ve been doing that in the UK for years.

        • linnte says

          Jun 19, 2016 at 12:18 am

          Just listening to that chant gives me the heebie jeebies! Ugh!

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 19, 2016 at 12:19 am

          Yes, I know, SBJ–and all over Europe, as well.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 19, 2016 at 12:48 am

          Linnte, it’s the most chilling sound I know–I find it more frightening than a stadium full of Nazis screaming “Heil Hitler!”, which is saying a great deal.

        • SBJ says

          Jun 19, 2016 at 1:24 am

          lol @ gravenimage.

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 19, 2016 at 12:05 am

        I just noticed something else, as well.

        Salwa Mozzab’s mother, Manar Al Ahamar, is 32. Her daughter is 15 years old. That means that the mother gave birth to her when she was only 17, so she was probably impregnated at just 16.

        In other words, this supposedly all-American family practices *child marriage*.

        It could be that Salwa is as concerned about getting shipped back to Syria for a forced marriage next year than over “Islamophobia” here.

    • disgusted says

      Jun 23, 2016 at 10:19 pm

      thought exactly the same thing.. so many people coming to America claiming they’re Americans.. you may be a US citizen, but you’re not an American. Real Americans know who we are-the descendants of the men who fought the Revolutionary War- a war they fought for us, their progeny, so we could enjoy this nation. Now overrun by people who think they’re American. This girl doesn’t even have the good sense to realize she moved in on this older woman’s birth land. Americans are now nothing in our own home.

      • linnte says

        Jun 24, 2016 at 9:00 pm

        As long as there are people like you and I, America will rally!

  3. Allan White says

    Jun 18, 2016 at 7:15 pm

    I could not believe that was the New York Times headline

    “Orlando Killings Rob Young New York Muslims of a Cherished Holiday Respite”

    It makes no sense anyway and is the vomit issuing forth from a morally wrapped and diseased mind

    • Polk1970 says

      Jun 18, 2016 at 11:49 pm

      How the “brains” of these NYT editors and headline writers “function” is a scientific mystery?

    • Carolyne says

      Jun 19, 2016 at 10:20 am

      I guess the NYT didn’t consider that Christmas will forever be spoiled for the families who had a loved one killed in Orlando. They will not know the joy of biting into a leftover ham sandwich.

  4. Norwegian says

    Jun 18, 2016 at 7:26 pm

    Yeah…bohu hu…

    Like we care about their fucking ramadan…

    I think the western islamophilia will be under intense study in the future among psychologists. As one of the strangest and most extensive mass-hysteria/psychosis in modern history. And here is why…

    -How could such an ridicilous and ignorant trend even get hold on a population with average IQ 100.
    -Why was it so hard to break? Why did “everyone” try so desperatly to hold on to it.
    -Where did it come from?…
    -Why did people embrace such an self-destructive atitude…
    -Why why why and how…

    We of course know a lot of reasons for it…but I still think something is “not there”…

    • SBJ says

      Jun 19, 2016 at 1:27 am

      Their average IQ point is 70, not 100.
      Promoted generational, first cousin marriage isn’t going to make you very bright, but easily lead.

      • Norwegian says

        Jun 19, 2016 at 10:55 am

        I was talking about the average IQ of white people, not muslims. They are at 70-80 for the most part…

    • Neville J. Angove says

      Jun 19, 2016 at 4:05 am

      This psychologist says it is so easy, and has been known for years to be so easy, for something like pro-Islamic ideas to become entrenched in Western society. It does not matter about IQ, but about emotion. We want an absence of cognitive conflict, we want to feel comfortable. We can’t conceive of anyone wanting to perform acts of terror. Even Muslims have trouble conceiving that.

      The phrase I first heard in 1970 is “cognitive dissonance.”

      But Muslims know that their culture is the perfect one, and that it will overcome the decadent culture of the inferior infidels, and that there is no need for terrorist acts to happen. There will be a few, but these are “unfortunate” events that only those driven to extremes will do.

      It is not a coincidence that virtually every act of terror has occurred immediately following the terrorist visiting his/her iman in the mosque. A moderate, peaceful Muslim is simply one who has not publicly voiced terrorist intentions yet.

      Support amongst the Muslim community can be judged by the amount of time that the ringleader of the Paris massacres lived in the local Muslim community. Months. That is cognitive dissonance by Muslims. That the pundits have refused to talk about it is cognitive dissonance by them ( along with a lot of secret shame).

  5. Mockingjay says

    Jun 18, 2016 at 7:33 pm

    There are so many truly sickening statements in this piece that one knows hardly what to react to first.

    This lady of THIRTYTWO years of age, who’s having an acute “bloodpressure emergency” after this “incident” on the street ?!? No, really ?

    And then that last remark of the daughter:
    “If she doesn’t want to be surrounded by Muslims,” Salwa said, “why is she in this community?’”…

    Yeah. Why are there still Americans in that neighbourhood when muslims clearly have taken over:
    “Once populated largely by Scandinavian immigrants, as well as those of Italian and Irish heritage, Bay Ridge has been transformed like so much of New York. There are nine mosques in the area now, according to Tony Carnes, a sociologist who publishes an online journal, “A Journey Through N.Y.C. Religions.” Many of the store signs on the avenues are written in Arabic”.

    America is separated by a lot of ocean from ALL muslim countries. How easy it would have been to keep ’em out. Yet there are so many muslims already that they are taking over whole neighbourhoods.

    As a European, this is actually more shocking to me than what is happening in Europe’s cities.

    • Dr. I .J. says

      Jun 19, 2016 at 1:36 am

      You’re right. And their are moslemborns as well who turned away from Islam, fled from Islamic countries to live in peace and are shocked to find themselves surrounded by strictly practicing Moslems. ……

  6. Jay Boo says

    Jun 18, 2016 at 7:37 pm

    That would make an excellent billboard.
    It cold to go beside the Islamic proselytizing (Why Islam ?) billboards.

    “Orlando Killings Rob Young New York Muslims of a Cherished Holiday Respite,”

    ISLAM WHY ?

    • Mockingjay says

      Jun 18, 2016 at 7:44 pm

      Yes
      – how selfish of all those gays to provoke a muslim to kill them and spoil the whole ramadan for everyone.

      • Scpatriot says

        Jun 18, 2016 at 7:46 pm

        Hear Hear

      • Norger says

        Jun 18, 2016 at 10:25 pm

        Indeed.

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 18, 2016 at 10:56 pm

        The “filthy Kuffar” are *always* spoiling things for Muslims! sarc/off

  7. nicu says

    Jun 18, 2016 at 7:47 pm

    True — so what ? they spoiled it themselves !

  8. Hope says

    Jun 18, 2016 at 8:02 pm

    The NY Times has hit a new low with their revolting propaganda. Anyone who reads this NYT article and does not see how shallow, cold, and self-serving these muslims are is truly in an Obama-induced zombie state. People were slaughtered. People lost their lives because of islam. AGAIN. And all these muslims care about is themselves and their ridiculous petty grievances. I am disgusted by their indifference and their detachment, but I am not surprised.

    Once again the so-called “best of people” (according to the koran) exhibit absolutely no compassion or empathy for the victims of islamic terrorism. Why would they bother, when their koran teaches them that non-muslims are “the vilest of creatures.” And, of course they would be especially unfeeling toward the gay and lesbian victims of the Orlando massacre, as the penalty for homosexuality in islam is death.

    Also: “If she doesn’t want to be surrounded by Muslims,” Salwa said, “why is she in this community?”… So! Now muslims are sending a message to non-muslims in America, “This is ours now. If you don’t like it here, you should leave.” Elect Donald Trump. Stop the islamization of America before it’s too late.

    • kilfincelt says

      Jun 18, 2016 at 11:41 pm

      Maybe we should respond with if they don’t like it here, they can leave.They can go on the Hajj and stay permanently in Saudi Arabia. There are plenty of empty air-conditioned tents available near Mecca.

  9. Westman says

    Jun 18, 2016 at 8:06 pm

    “Muhammad replied that there were differences between Muslims like Muhammad Ali and those like Omar Mateen.”

    The ignorance of some Muslims about other versions of Islam is astounding. I can imagine how little they know about their own sect.

    Muhammad Ali was a member of the Nation Of Islam, created in America by Wallace D. Fard, and not recognized by Sunnis or Shias as legitimate. This is the “religion” that murdered Malcom X when he discovered, and made known, that the corrupt leader Elija Muhammad was impregnating vulnerable young members. Ali broke with Malcom over the corruption of Elijah but later regretted it. A real crackpot, Louis Farrakhan, now heads the nation of islam.

    • خَليفة says

      Jun 18, 2016 at 10:27 pm

      Note: slavery is wrong, truth is good

      The NOI wants a lot of stuff from the USA.
      http://www.noi.org/muslim-program/
      They believe the descendants of their “slave masters” owe them this.

      I wonder if they know their own history, and the real truth of slavery.
      * there ancestors were captured by Muslim slave traders in Africa and sold to westerners AND other Muslims
      * the Muslims slave owners castrated males and used them for labor
      * the Muslim slave owners used the women as sex slaves and in general did not allow them progeny
      * by some accounts, more white Europeans were captured and sold to Muslim slave owners than black people brought to the Americas
      * in the USA ( north and south combined ) not more than 5% of white people EVER owned slaves.
      * most USA slave owners had less than 5 slaves, taught them a trade, worked along side them doing the same things, slept in the same house, ate at the same table, freed them after 7 years
      * many states had laws against freeing slaves that had no skills ( I.e. The owner would have financial responsibility for slaves needs and care ) – teaching slaves a trade and freeing them saved money- unskilled slaves become a financial burden as you could not just dump them onto society ( no welfare in those days – welfare is the new slavery )
      * in USA slave owners allowed slaves to marry and have children ( Unlike the Muslim masters )
      * Freed blacks ( in the south ) were far more likely to own slaves than were white people ( about 30% of free blacks in New Orleans owned slaves in 1860 )
      * there were black slave magnets
      * there were successful black businessmen in the south, doing business in the south, some more wealthy than most whites ( this shows that there were many white people in the south who had no issue doing business with blacks )

      I could go on and on – but you should do some research on your own about this…what is taught in school is far from accurate.

      • Linde Barrera says

        Jun 18, 2016 at 11:42 pm

        Interesting details on slavery. Thank you for posting, as per your 10:27 pm June 18, 2016 comments.

        • خَليفة says

          Jun 19, 2016 at 12:18 am

          According to this site:
          http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ajac/
          about 1 in 70 in 1860 were slave holders ( that is 1.4% )

          You can find tid bits of info in unexpected places.

        • linnte says

          Jun 19, 2016 at 2:57 am

          Calipha, thanks for this info! Very cool stuff. Many Americans have that “guilt syndrome” that Germany has, which I think is a huge part of Liberal stupidity. 1:70 is a ratio I certainly can live guilt free with!

      • maghan says

        Jun 19, 2016 at 3:37 am

        Not historically accurate on some points:

        The slave trade on the West African coast was not managed by Muslims. That was the East African coast–where there was slavery on the plantations of Zanzibar and Pemba.

        See the book of slaver Theo Conaut: ” A Slaver’s Log–20 Years of Slaving on the West African Coast”. According to Conaut most the captives who became slaves were were prisoners who were then bartered off for petty trade items, muskets and cannon. The middle men were gangs in the pay of the shippers on the coast.

        Many of the captives who became slaves were just kidnapped and bartered off to coastal shippers. Google the names Suleiman Ben Job, Mahama Baquaqua, Gustavus Vassa, and Ajai Crowther for the biographies of some of the kidnapped.

        Islam sanctions slavery and Muhammad himself owned and sold slaves–including blacks.

        But the Muslim areas of the Arabian peninsula and Iraq were never turned into agricultural plantations as in the Americas, so there was never a huge demand for slaves as in the Americas. Such societies were basically primitive and nomadic characterized by tent, camels and goats.

        The most extensive Islamic slavery was the Turkish slave trade in captured East Europeans from the Slavic lands–males for the plantations and females for the harems in the role of brood mares.

        It is a fact though that Islam is a vile perversion of Judaism and Christianity which no right thinking person should ever be committed to.

        • خَليفة says

          Jun 19, 2016 at 3:34 pm

          The vast majority of white slave traders never travel inland to Africa’s interior to collect slaves. The African slave market existed on the coast long before whites were buying slaves to bring to the Americas.

          http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/slavetrade.htm

          If the whites did not venture into central Africa who did? Other blacks and Arabs.
          Most histories fail to mention that the “local” slave traders are mostly Muslims. But if you are willing to do some research, you will find many references that do.

      • Carolyne says

        Jun 19, 2016 at 10:29 am

        I hereby wish to apologize for every slave I ever owned.

        • linnte says

          Jun 19, 2016 at 12:51 pm

          Me too……NOT! And I refuse to apologize for the slaves my Irish/Scot descendants didn’t have either! Matta fact, I had a pretty good great great great granddad in the Civil War who did some darned good things, and you can look him up on Google- William Henry Clark. Liberals, Black and White, just need to get over it!

        • Hope says

          Jun 19, 2016 at 6:35 pm

          Would you believe a Liberal recently told me that EVERY white person in America, every one, has ancestors who owned black slaves? When I protested that my ancestors were all living in Europe until 1915, he relented a bit and said, “Oh. OK, maybe not everyone, but most white people did.” This is what we are dealing with, folks.

  10. Jaladhi says

    Jun 18, 2016 at 8:17 pm

    After reading these lefty liberal writers of NYTimes ilk why are these people so disgusting and brain dead. They cannot see the truth and distinguish between evil and good – in other words why they have become a Muslim?

  11. Gary says

    Jun 18, 2016 at 8:22 pm

    The frustration of defending Islam…..

    Why would anyone in their right mind want to defend Islam? Let alone believe the lies of a madman!

    Read Sura 9 and ask yourself how Islam is considered “The Religion of Peace”

    “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”
    (Jesus Circa 33 A.D.)

  12. somehistory says

    Jun 18, 2016 at 8:31 pm

    It’s his *favorite time*….yeah, right. Go all day without eating or drinking or even chewing gum….that’s a teen’s favorite way to live alright.

    And poor, poor, baby….it comes at the same time as the school tests….boohoo. Next time, the test dates will be adjusted so these poor, poor babies won’t have to suffer through studying for them while they are eating their sweet dates.

    And the woman…allegedly…where is that word in this article???…cursed and told the moslim to go home. Like so many other false accounts of *abusive* language suffered horribly by moslims…for no good reason…this one sounds false, recounted only for the effect of making her the victim in the news.

    And her daughter….who, *allegedly* had to put her mother in an ambulance because her blood pressure suddenly went up *after*…some time after…the *upset.*
    So, after the most horrid incident that most likely didn’t happen, the moslim wonders just why the non-moslim lives in a place *surrounded by moslims.*

    How about: She was there first. It was her home first.

    And the reporter has no empathy for the non-moslims whose neighborhoods have been taken over by worshippers of satan’s beast.

    Christmas for the group in SB, CA was spoiled by a couple of molsims carrying out a terror attack.

    The unholy month of islam was not *spoiled* by Christians or other non-moslims. If it was *spoiled* for these ingrates, it was spoiled by one of their own.
    It’s rather likely that they celebrate the attack each night when munching on their dates and candy.

  13. duh_swami says

    Jun 18, 2016 at 8:49 pm

    Missing lunch is so very hard to do…

    ;The joy of breaking a 16-hour fast with the first’,,,

    A 3 month fast is even more joyful…

    I fasted for 8 days once only consuming beer and bar food…I used pickled pigs feet to break the fast…O what a joy that was…

    • Westman says

      Jun 18, 2016 at 10:03 pm

      I just finished a 36 hour irrigation turn, at a remote location, and didn’t have time to eat from 6PM yesterday until 4PM today, 22 hrs. Can I get something from Allah for this great sacrifice? I might have mentioned the name of the Muslim diety when I tripped over a hose and fell in the dark. I hope that counts as prayer.

      • Cecilia Ellis says

        Jun 18, 2016 at 10:08 pm

        Only if your derrière was in the air.

    • Carolyne says

      Jun 19, 2016 at 10:32 am

      I can only imagine the joy you felt when biting into your first pig’s foot.

  14. خَليفة says

    Jun 18, 2016 at 8:52 pm

    Muslims act as if no one else matters. They should be showing remorse for the victims, and the friends and family of the victims, BUT instead, they complain how the kuffar’s tragedy has harmed the Muslim community. ( eerily similar to Obana’s initial response )

    Here is a tip: Muslims, if such events harm your community, STOP encouraging your own to perpetrate such terrorism. Better yet, leave Islam and learn about other religions – doing so will expand your mind beyond what you can now imagine – you will wonder why you didn’t do so sooner.

  15. Angemon says

    Jun 18, 2016 at 9:05 pm

    Orlando Killings Rob Young New York Muslims of a Cherished Holiday Respite

    It also robbed 49 people of their lives and changed the lives of hundreds of people, but it’s not like the NYT cares for them…

    “If you can tell the difference between white people and K.K.K., you can at least differentiate between Muslims and ISIS,” Muhammad recalled arguing in class.

    What race is the K.K.K. ideology? And how is orthodox islam different from ISIS’s?

    Ms. Al Ahamar, 32, said she had just walked away, but had gotten so upset later that her blood pressure soared and she began to have severe chest pains.

    Yeah, I bet she did – the kuffar talking back at her, as if they’re people?

    Salwa did not understand how a woman could verbally attack her mother, especially in what she considers her own neighborhood. “If she doesn’t want to be surrounded by Muslims,” Salwa said, “why is she in this community?’”…

    Yeah, no, not your neighbourhood, kid. If you don’t like the woman’s reaction, move.

    • mortimer says

      Jun 18, 2016 at 9:48 pm

      Islam is like an Arab KKK plus Emperor Nero plus Don Corleone plus Jack the Ripper.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 18, 2016 at 11:08 pm

      Excellent post.

  16. mortimer says

    Jun 18, 2016 at 9:46 pm

    Boy in NY says, “Islam is all about peace. In Ramadan, we don’t even curse. You’re not supposed to do anything bad.”

    Oh really? Then why is Ramadan called by Muslims ‘THE MONTH OF JIHAD’???

    Explanation please. Your cognitive dissonance is showing.

    • Jack Diamond says

      Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01 pm

      Day 13 of Ramadan, 113 attacks in the name of Islam, 821 killed; all other religions combined 0; Islamophobes 0 (courtesy “The Religion of Peace”)

      Muslims in Ramadan celebrate Muhammad’s first (“miraculous”) military victory over kaffirs and the beginning of the Jihad. Muslims delayed their attack at the Battle of Tours so it would coincide with Ramadan. The war for Pakistan began during Ramadan (on the actual ‘day of Badr’). Somehow Muslims have always done violent, bad things during Ramadan and continue to do so this Ramadan. Because Islam is all about peace? “We don’t even curse”…if we don’t count the cursing of Jews & Christians five times a day.

      Abraham Lincoln High School? What might Abraham Lincoln have found objectionable about Islam, children?

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 18, 2016 at 11:09 pm

      It’s because butchering unarmed Infidels is not considered “anything bad” in Islam.

  17. mortimer says

    Jun 18, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    Muslims in every Western country show us how different they are by wearing the UNIFORM OF JIHAD so we know how much they despise us and our way of life.

  18. David says

    Jun 18, 2016 at 10:26 pm

    Oh poor Muslims feelings are hurt…

  19. ploome says

    Jun 18, 2016 at 10:34 pm

    I just keep hoping and praying that they will be so miserable and disappointed here, they will self deport back to the places they came from.

  20. gravenimage says

    Jun 18, 2016 at 10:43 pm

    NY Times: Orlando jihad massacre has spoiled Ramadan for young NY Muslims
    ……………………………

    Didn’t it kinda spoil things for the *victims* and their families? Ah, who cares about those “filthy Infidels”?

    More:

    “Salwa’s mother, Manar Al Ahamar, said that in April, outside a pharmacy in Bay Ridge, an older woman had confronted her, telling her to go back to her country and cursing her in front of her 10-year-old son, Ahmed.” That’s a shame. If it happened, it is unfortunate. Retailing it after the murder of 49 people in the name of Allah and Islam and in accord with the command of Muhammad to kill homosexuals, however, is simply grotesque.
    ……………………………

    Yes, it *is* grotesque. Moreover, the idea that this happened–assuming it did, and is not just more Muslim victim-mongering–because of “insensitive” Kuffar upset over the massacre in Orlando simply makes no sense–this was back in April, and must have referred to one of the many *previous* acts of Jihad terror.

    More:

    The New York Times in this piece continues the mainstream media’s ongoing tendency to characterize Muslims as the victims of jihad mass murder attacks.
    ……………………………

    *Exactly*. And this has been going on since 9/11. Often you find articles talking about how *Muslims* have (supposedly) suffered from 9/11 and every Jihad terror attack since–in many cases, if you did not know what 9/11 was, you would assume it was an attack *on* Muslims, not *by* Muslims.

    More:

    New York Muslims

    “Orlando Killings Rob Young New York Muslims of a Cherished Holiday Respite” by Liz Robbins, New York Times, June 18, 2016
    ……………………………

    “Respite”–from what? From mean old “Islamophobes”?

    LIz Robbins has written more sickening apologia for supremacist Muslims, including this maudlin piece:

    “‘Do You Know Me? Do You Know My Heart?'”

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/12/10/nyregion/muslims-in-new-york-react-to-donald-trump.html

    This was trolling for Muslim “reactions” in New York after Donald Trump talked about a temporary ban on Muslim immigration until they could be properly vetted re Jihad terror.

    One of them whines about people looking at her Hijab warily after the murderous attacks on Paris. She does not say why it would be a bad thing to keep similar Jihadists out of the US…

    She then goes on to compare such wariness to the actions of *Hitler*.

    A Muslim who was a soldier at the time was stationed at Ground Zero, and says that he had a police officer *apologize to him* over the Jihad terror attacks. It doesn’t get any more perverse *than that*. This creep is now an NYC police officer himself.

    And speaking of which, of course, she also interviewed the Muslim NYC Police Chaplin Imam Khalid Latif, who whines about some Infidels being wary of his presence at Ground Zero.

    Robbins does not question *any* of this victim-mongering.

    More:

    For Muhammad Hannan and other Muslim high school students in New York City, this has been a Ramadan of contrasts and conflicting emotions.

    The joy of breaking a 16-hour fast with the first bite of a sweet date. The horror of hearing about the attack on a gay nightclub in Florida that left 49 dead. The drudgery of reviewing a year’s worth of earth sciences and trigonometry notes. The frustration of defending Islam — and the right to be in this country — after another terrorist attack carried out in the name of the Islamic State.
    ……………………………

    The joy of celebrating another Jihad terror attack. The frustration of this putting the Infidels on their guard…

    More:

    “I just don’t get it,” said Muhammad, a 17-year-old junior at Abraham Lincoln High School in Coney Island, Brooklyn, who immigrated from Pakistan with his family in 2014. “Islam is all about peace. In Ramadan, we don’t even curse. You’re not supposed to do anything bad.”
    ……………………………

    Cursing is bad–but mass-murdering forty-nine people is not. And he ‘doesn’t get’ why some Kuffar might be concerned about this…

    More:

    Ramadan is usually Muhammad’s favorite time. This year, though, the holiday, which encompasses a month of fasting from dawn to dusk, has not offered its usual refuge. Already, Ramadan coincided with the Regents, the series of state tests that most high school students in New York take.
    ……………………………

    How “Islamophobic”! All Muslims should get an automatic pass…sarc/off

    More:

    Then on Sunday, a Muslim man born in New York, Omar Mateen, called 911 to proclaim his allegiance to ISIS and opened fire in the Pulse nightclub in Orlando.
    ……………………………

    Wow–hard tests during fasting, a coreligionist massacring a bunch of unbelievers…do the trials for Muslims *never end*?

    More:

    Within a day, Donald J. Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, was renewing his call to ban Muslims from entering the United States.

    And the day after that, another student in Muhammad’s English class started echoing Mr. Trump’s call.

    “He was talking a lot of bad things, with no proof,” Muhammad said of the classmate. Muhammad replied that there were differences between Muslims like Muhammad Ali and those like Omar Mateen.

    “If you can tell the difference between white people and K.K.K., you can at least differentiate between Muslims and ISIS,” Muhammad recalled arguing in class.
    ……………………………

    Except that that “whiteness” does not teach the tenets of the Ku Klux Klan–Islam, however, does teach exactly the tenets that drive ISIS and Omar Mateen.

    More:

    Salwa Mozzeb, 15, who is finishing her freshman year at Millennium Brooklyn High School in Park Slope soundly dismissed Mr. Trump’s proposal. “That’s messed up,” she said on Tuesday, wearing a hijab and speaking in a brassy Brooklyn accent. A naturalized United States citizen, she came with her mother from Syria when she was 9 months old. “I was raised here,” she said. “America is my home.”
    ……………………………

    Having a Brooklyn accent does not mean you share the values of the United States.

    Note that she said that banning Muslim terrorists is “messed up”, but did not say she feels the same way about her fellow Muslim slaughtering Infidels.

    More:

    After the killings in Orlando, Salwa’s father, Abdulnoor Mozzeb, 39, a naturalized American citizen originally from Yemen, warned his daughter to be especially careful on the subway, and to sit near the conductor. The idea annoyed her. “I’m just like any other 15-year-old here,” she said. “I want to hang out and chill. I don’t want to stress about feeling like I’m different because I’m Muslim.”
    ……………………………

    Seems like dear old dad had not compassion to spare for the *actual* victims, either–and this supremacist teenager is just disturbed that it might be harder to “hang out and chill” because forty-nine ‘filthy Kuffar’ are dead.

    More:

    Salwa’s mother, Manar Al Ahamar, said that in April, outside a pharmacy in Bay Ridge, an older woman had confronted her, telling her to go back to her country and cursing her in front of her 10-year-old son, Ahmed.

    Ms. Al Ahamar, 32, said she had just walked away, but had gotten so upset later that her blood pressure soared and she began to have severe chest pains. Salwa had helped her mother into in an ambulance. It was not until Wednesday that her mother revealed what had caused the emergency.
    ……………………………

    See? Muslims *really are* the victims! Who cares about gunshot wounds when you have stress like this? sarc/off

    Salwa did not understand how a woman could verbally attack her mother, especially in what she considers her own neighborhood. “If she doesn’t want to be surrounded by Muslims,” Salwa said, “why is she in this community?’”…
    ……………………………

    In other words, this is a *Muslim neighborhood*–a burgeoning “No Go Zone”.

    This is what these come to look like:

    “Sweden: Journalist stoned while trying to film in no-go zone”

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/10/sweden-journalist-stoned-while-trying-to-film-in-no-go-zone

  21. vlparker says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 12:58 am

    It spoiled ramadan? Boo hoo freaking hoo. It spoiled life for 49 people, morons.

  22. zulu says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 2:22 am

    OT — MUST WATCH: Steven Crowder dresses as Bob Ross and paints the Muslim prophet Muhammad

    http://www.therebel.media/must_watch_steven_crowder_dresses_as_bob_ross_and_paints_the_muslim_prophet_muhammad

    • WorkingClassPost says

      Jun 19, 2016 at 6:13 am

      There’s another link on that page, about a college vigil where the speaker goes straight (pardon pun) into an irrelevant anti-white speech, she says “..and that wasn’t a joke”, but nobody was laughing.

      America has more than just a muslim problem.

      http://www.therebel.media/caught_on_video_gay_couple_ridiculed_and_bashed_at_vigil_for_orlando_terror_victims_for_being_white

  23. God Almighty says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 3:09 am

    Never ceases to amaze me just how these miscreants always, but always come up with lame excuses that make them out to be the victims. Fuck ramadan they will eat again, the poor bastards dead by Muslim hands will not.

  24. Demsci says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 3:13 am

    This article shows so clear, that “Muslims don;t get it, and refuse to even consider that Islam is the problematic and provocative factor for so many Democratic Tolerant Citizens of Western countries.

    This is why a temporary ban on Muslims is a good idea. As it is a good idea to trigger a big discussion about it.

    So as to be able to give the argumentation for it, and so for, yes, discrimination of Muslims. To me this must be about comparing democracy and tolerance with the political side of Islam.

    A bit like the policy and reasoning of the English government from the 16th until the 19th century about Catholics. Which went like; Catholics are primarily loyal to an outside power, the pope, over and above being loyal to England. Therefore we cannot trust them and must limit their power, influence and of course stop immigration of more of them.

    We know so much about Islam now, and we know that loyalty to Divine law trumps loyalty to manmade law for them. We know loyalty to the Ummah trumps loyalty to country for them.

    We know that Divine Law and Ummah propagate Quran-Hadiths-Sira-Tafsir and that in the resulting Shariah Law there are clear anti-democratic tenets, like deathpenalty for apostasy and Islamic discrimination and intolerance. We know Islam inspires striving for a caliphate and a theocratic, dictatorial state. Either that or it is very easy to interpret Islam like this, as hundreds of millions of Muslims show, in surveys.

    And if Muslims deny this, then we know that, even if a part of the Muslims don’t fit this pattern, then still that makes Islam a very unclear religion, ideology

    and far too prone to let Muslims indeed fit this anti-democratic pattern. Which leads to untrustworthyness of Neutral Muslims and therefore to shifting the burden of proof to them for not fitting this pattern, and being compatible with and primarily loyal to the democratic system.

    And we see Muslims in Western countries duly distance themselves from ISIS, but …
    that only means that they desire to seem no more than neutral. Between ISIS and known hostile violent Muslims and the infidels. And I emphasize SEEM.

    But in view of what we now know all the above of Islam and Muslims, in combination with the principle that, at least in our countries, someone’s choice of religion is something he/ she CAN AND SHOULD be held accountable for;

    We now do have logical grounds, which we can make legal grounds, and which we can use as arguments, to indeed discriminate against Muslims.

    But because it is so hard to get a democratic majority for this, which we must get, otherwise we lose our democratic high ground so to speak,

    we can consider a subpolicy of inviting Muslims to openly become Democratic Muslims, and Mosques to become Democratic Mosques, who, as Zuhdi Jasser does, explicitly choose Democracy over Theocracy, and National Law over Divine law.

    And this for the benefit of having one more argument for discrimination of Muslims with immigration, namely that so-called “innocent, harmless” Muslims never even want to confirm their primary loyalty to the democratic system in a clear way. In context of all the above knowledge we now have of Islam.

  25. SpiritOf1683 says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 3:19 am

    Have we noticed that there’s no feeling sorry for, or empathy towards the victims – the dead, wounded and those who are wounded but might not make it either from Muslims or the MSM. They’re only bothered abour Ramadan being spoiled for young Muslims. What utterly cold-hearted attitudes are on display.

    • Cecilia Ellis says

      Jun 19, 2016 at 3:42 am

      Spirit, that is the first thing I noticed. They never show any remorse or empathy for the victims; they only care about themselves and make up stories about how they have been mistreated or about how they are afraid of backlash — a fear that civilized people might do to them what they — savages — have done to civilized people. Likewise, MSM is enabling this carnage, though they have partners in leadership positions equally culpable.

      • WorkingClassPost says

        Jun 19, 2016 at 6:16 am

        Doesn’t the koran say that name calling is worse than slaughter?

        Not that this has anything to do with islam, though.

  26. Jay Boo says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 3:55 am

    Just a thought.

    I wonder how old that sweet little girl will be before her brother and father honor kill her for being too Westernized.

  27. davej says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 4:07 am

    Islam is an “all about me”, ultra-narcissistic and hostile to all others barbaric Cult.

    They are in violent opposition to basic human values and have no Golden Rule.

    They mistreat and oppress women.

    They hate dogs, music and fun and want to kill anyone who disagrees with them.

    They are trying to rule the world and we must fight back.

  28. James says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 4:33 am

    Lots of good comments here, taking this shameless propaganda apart. I would also like to add that the New York Times literally depicted someone’s free speech as being physically harmful, putting the poor Muslim dear in the hospital:

    “Ms. Al Ahamar, 32, said she had just walked away, but had gotten so upset later that her blood pressure soared and she began to have severe chest pains. Salwa had helped her mother into in an ambulance. It was not until Wednesday that her mother revealed what had caused the emergency.”

    It’s chilling how many idiots have their views shaped by reading things like this.For such a blatant piece of crap, so many people are putty in the NYT’s hands…

  29. OSIversen says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 4:33 am

    Working at school for ten years I have noticed something common among both kids, teeanage anf adult Muslims: “It is always somebody else fault”

    Like vandalism or crime: Even if they are caught in the act, on video, and with witness’ : “it wasent me, it was someone else !”

    They always lie.

  30. BARBARA BROOKS says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 4:34 am

    It’s really disgusting when members of the public take out their hatred on random Muslims instead of writing to public officials and newspapers to stop radical Islam. Attacking random individuals will lead to them banding together and getting even more radical!

    • WorkingClassPost says

      Jun 19, 2016 at 6:18 am

      What’s really disgusting, Barbara, is …

  31. Charli Main says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 5:24 am

    I love my Ramadan breakfast. No better way to start the Ramadan day than with scrambled eggs, pork sausages and crispy bacon and I can be certain that my bacon hasn´t had Muslim mumbo jumbo uttered over it.

    • Carolyne says

      Jun 19, 2016 at 10:59 am

      I just had country ham with scrambled eggs, biscuits and sausage gravy. I love Ramadan.

    • linnte says

      Jun 21, 2016 at 12:29 am

      Charli! I hadn’t thought if that! I have been very hesitant to buy beef and chicken because to me, those prayers over a dying animal are an abomination! Guess I’ll just say pork ?

  32. daniel sebold says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 5:30 am

    Must be extremely affluent and well educated Muslims: the drudgery of their children reviewing Trigonometry and Earth Science notes during Ramadan at the beginning of this piece. This is what Americans should be pissed about: their own children are attending slum schools taught by creationists morons while the upper classes from Pakistan relocate to New York and their children are taking classes in advanced mathematics and earth science at Coney Island High School. They don’t care about reforming their own country which they may well have the ability to do. We are importing highly educated, highly motivated people who no longer want to live in their turd world toilets of their own making because we are not willing to provide a decent education for our own home grown American children. Such is the crime of neo-liberalism inflicted upon the American lower and middle classes. God forbid that we would provide a decent education for our own children in America. Multiculturalism is not a liberal movement. It is a fascist elitist movement designed to maximize profit. Robert Spencer is right: whoever is doing this to our country hates the country, wants to suck it dry for their own profit.

    • Carolyne says

      Jun 19, 2016 at 11:09 am

      “Whoever is doing this……” Look no further than Washington, DC.

  33. Richard says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 5:47 am

    I have never understood the concocted word “Islamophobia” and why its is such a bad thing and how anyone labelled by it is a racist.
    But for all those so-called liberals, which include atheists, Christians, Jews and those of the LBGT community, who support the Islamic ideology, despite the ideology openly calling for their death and destruction, we should have a word for them and a word for the phenomena.
    I propose “Islamophilia” and “Islamophilics” or “Islamosycophantophilia” and “Islamosycophantophiliacs” or “Islamosychophilia” and “Islamosychophiliacs”.

    • dts says

      Jun 19, 2016 at 11:32 am

      How about “oikophobes” – those who hate and fear the home (oikos in Greek) culture and embrace the other merely for the sake of its being other? It’s a very adolescent attitude, but many on the far left carry it with them their life long.

  34. Richard Paulsen says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 6:45 am

    Imagine muslims instead of Europeans being the first coming to America, forming an Islamic state instead of a Democratic.
    Being an Islamic state now with lack of water, lack of food, desertification, poor sanitary conditions, wars between muslim groups, lots of men without women due to genocide on little girls, forced marriages. Everything now causing them to invade Europe and the U.S.A..
    U.S.A. being a developing world getting economical support still not developing. Migrants leaving for Latin- America and Europa.

  35. John Magne Trane says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 6:50 am

    ““If she doesn’t want to be surrounded by Muslims,” Salwa said, “why is she in this community?’”…”
    Unbelievable…

  36. Charli Main says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 7:50 am

    @ Mickey
    Yes, indeed. Folk like us are TOTALLY aware, that any country, city, town or Neighbourhood that a Muslim sets foot in becomes a part of Dar al Islam FOREVER. That’s the Muslim mind set.
    We are all living in THEIR COUNTRY.

  37. aaron morand says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 8:21 am

    this article has certainly brought our the anger of the WTP who are fed up with the Muslim propaganda
    machine and the Muslim sympathizers……perhaps, if the child were raised in another family, non-Muslim family that is, he/she might have a chance for a somewhat normal life…….Wait until
    the hormones start kicking in and he is introduced to a “radical muslim jihadist” who brain washes him
    into JIHAD…..then we will probably be reading about him or his group who stormed a night club somewhere
    and slaughtered a score or so of unarmed (thanks to our liberal govt) civilians…..he too will be killed in the fire fight and ANOTHER young life lost for N O T H I N G but a lie that has been perpetuated for centuries started by satan himself and handed down generation after generation to people who are weak minded and given to hate/violence at the drop of a hat…….this whole thing is P I T I F U L and
    could have been stopped…NO MORE IMMIGRANTS FROM MUSLIM COUNTRIES….just THAT
    simple……You can thank Mr. Obama and his bunch for this situation and the ones YET to come….for
    as long as there are Muslims in this Nation, then just as the CIA and all of our Law Enforcement
    people have said…there will be MORE of the Orlando crap……IMPEACH/SUE/IMPRISON OBAMA>>
    VOTE TRUMP ….VOTE TRUMP>>>>>>>>

  38. Robert Crawford says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 10:20 am

    “I’m just like any other 15-year-old here,” she said. “I want to hang out and chill. I don’t want to stress about feeling like I’m different because I’m Muslim.”

    Then take off the hijab and act like an American.

  39. RJ says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 10:25 am

    This article was written with nothing else in mind except to make Mr. Trump look bad…

  40. Daniel Di Lulo says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 10:26 am

    When a Muslim says that Islam is about peace they are ignorant of what their own holy book actually says in many verses. It’s not about peace. If every American understood this things would be different. We could expel them from our country. Unless that ever happens the murdering will continue to get worse as Obama brings in more of them.

  41. Florida Jim says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 10:49 am

    Sharia, Jihad, Taqiyya,beheadings, rapes of boys, girls, women and enemies,, hatred to Israel, america and all non-Islamic nations . Islam is not compatible with freedom and truth it is the antithesis. We must deport all mjuslims unless they convert to a peaceful religion like Christianity which preaches Love thy neighbor as thyself and love God with all you heart and mind doing good to everyone.Each day Christians can ask forgiveness and try to do better until they are in Heaven.with God.
    Democrats, Marxists, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Fascists and Islam all must rule everyone completely strangling every human until they die, or murder everyone.

  42. A.T. Halmay says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 11:02 am

    In a sense all Muslims are victims. They didn’t opt to become Muslims. They were born into Muslim families which makes them instant victims of a fascist ideology that makes lunatic demands of them in their daily lives, tells them even how to dress and then teaches them how to blow themselves up among their perceived enemies. The faith is so filled with hate for outsiders that even their cousins who may have ever so slight a different way to obey the fascist demands become their enemies so their entire lives are lived out in conflict with each other, with outsiders and with nature itself. Their only hope for salvation is to liberate themselves, to become apostates and if they all reject the religion who will be left to kill them for rejecting it? In the interim, those of us lucky to have been born in non-Muslim homes also have limited options to prevent our lives from becoming destroyed because of their presence among us. We have an historic example of how to do it. Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand of Spain gave them three options. Convert to Christianity, leave Spain or get killed. We don’t have to be as dramatic but we need to be demanding: Reject Islam or leave our country. We simply outlaw the Koran and Islam, throw out the potential jihadists and block new ones from coming into our country.

  43. dave says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 12:12 pm

    I don’t understand why this simple question is asked of all imams: Is the Orlando shooter in heaven?
    According to the Koran 9.111, a person killing or being killed in the name of Allah is guaranteed entrance into heaven. If the imam says the shooter is not in heaven, then confirm he denies the Koran is the word of Allah and perfect. That will be a start.
    Why aren’t you doing this Robert?

  44. dave says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 12:14 pm

    dave says

    June 19, 2016 at 12:12 pm

    I don’t understand why this simple question is not asked of all imams: Is the Orlando shooter in heaven?
    According to the Koran 9.111, a person killing or being killed in the name of Allah is guaranteed entrance into heaven. If the imam says the shooter is not in heaven, then confirm he denies the Koran is the word of Allah and perfect. That will be a start.
    Why aren’t you doing this Robert?

  45. RJ says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 12:26 pm

    “I’m different because I’m Muslim.”

    • RJ says

      Jun 19, 2016 at 12:32 pm

      Accidentally hit enter key…and it posted

  46. RJ says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 12:30 pm

    You said, “I’m different because I’m Muslim.”

    Yes you are different…
    Because ALL Muslims are “ticking time bombs” waiting to go off when the Imam says…
    Nothing more, nothing less..

  47. Abu Nudnik says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 12:49 pm

    Speaking causes chest pains. Violence. I don’t if much of the NYT article was factual. They make up whole characters for their “stories” and get Pulitzer Prizes for it. This is a proven fact.

    • Abu Nudnik says

      Jun 19, 2016 at 12:50 pm

      doubt, not don’t. Sorry.

    • linnte says

      Jun 19, 2016 at 12:57 pm

      Abu, she was probably having a panic attack. Because being in America, she KNOWS deep in her petulant heart that the goal of Islam is dominance of our country, yet she sees how wonderful we are. The comparison and contrast of Ideologies makes her realise how wrong Islam is. Yet she can’t admit it. What an awful way to exist!

      • Hope says

        Jun 19, 2016 at 6:52 pm

        “Salwa had helped her mother into in an ambulance.”

        I have a friend who is an EMT in a major American city, and you would not believe the crackpots he has to put up with on a daily basis. I’ll bet the EMTs were none too pleased having to come and pick up this muslim drama queen having her fake little panic attack.

  48. chrissie01 says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 2:07 pm

    Cry babies is what they are.
    They want jihad, they get jihad.
    If one of the victim group is not exactly pleased and says so, they whimper and cry “discrimination”.
    Up yours, frankly.

  49. Larry OBrien says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 2:22 pm

    It is unfortunate when ever an innocent is blamed for the sins of another. However, a FACT which is often overlooked by most of the do-gooders, illustrates the history of the Islamic religion. Left to its’ own devices, Islam will physically conquer and enslave any civilization it comes in contact with. This is not a simple statement; this is HISTORICAL fact attested to by the very statements in their ‘holy’ documents. To exist with Islam REQUIRES isolation i.e., a quarantine. Otherwise the more virulent believers will take whatever steps are necessary (terrorism) to reach their eventual goal.

  50. Kamal Gupta says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 2:32 pm

    How many Muslim’s are saying that Orlando’s shooter’s victims were unlawfully murdered? Not many. Nor does President ‘Hussein’ Obama.

  51. EdC says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 2:35 pm

    Boo-hoo, poor little thing.

    How many families are enduring the permanent loss, disfigurement or injuries of their loved ones at the hands of jihadist radical Muslims such as Mateen?

    NYT has become a crying-towel and sounding for an incredibly polarizing presentation of the liberal agenda.

  52. Real American says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 4:47 pm

    “If she doesn’t want to be surrounded by Muslims,” Salwa said, “why is she in this community?’”…

    If Muslims don’t want to be surrounded by REAL Americans, why are they in this country?

  53. Jasmine says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 7:47 pm

    Je suis tres sick of hearing muslims whining about a backlash…where are the moderate muslims protesting in the streets and showing solidarity with millons of people? To stop some more terrorism, we must close down all mosques and stop muslim immigration or else demand a thorough analysis of the doctrines of islam ( we all know what the doctrines are ). Omar Marteen was a man suffering from a form of psychosis called islam. He was born gay or at the very least bisexual, he was totally conflicted ,thanks to the primitive and dangerous doctrines of islam concerning human sexuality. All schools of islam demand death for homosexuals. Islam teaaches that this life is not real and that the real life begins after death.

    Evrything you do is recorded by 2 angels one on the right and one on the left shoulder recording all your pluses and minuses. If you violate shariah no matter how trivial like putting the wrong foot forward when entering the toilet , you will get a demerit. After you die your merits and demerits will be tallied and you go to hell or go to paradise. However no muslim is guaranteed paradise just by good deeds, Even Mohammad said he himself is not guranteed paradise , it is all up to allah.

    HOWEVER THE ONLY SURE WAY TO ENTER JANNAH/PARADISE is to kill infidels and die in the process as a shaheed/.martyr. Aside from getting your 72 virgins and 28 boys fair as guarded pearls ,you also get to advocate or solicit admissions to paradise for 70 of your relatives .

    Thus jihad and martyrdom is a family affair…many parents are proud to have their son die as a martyr fighting infidels so they can prepapre and advocate for relatives to enter paradise . The FBI should investigate family and close relatives and also the local mosques. All terrorism/jihad have connexions to local mosques which are the epicenter for the propagation and implementation of Jihaad . DO NOT BAN GUNS, BAN ISLAM …everyone is going about it the wrong way !

  54. daniel sebold says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 7:56 pm

    According to Wikipedia: “Abraham Lincoln High School is a public high school located at 2800 Ocean Parkway, in Brooklyn, New York. The principal is Ari A. Hoogenboom. Built in 1929, Lincoln has graduated three Nobel Prize laureates, along with many other doctors, scientists, engineers, politicians, and other notable alumni.”.

    So these are hardly Pakistan’s poor oppressed refugees of the Taliban. These are Pakistan’s wealthiest eschewing responsibility for their own people, their own religion, their own culture, brought in by our own government. They come from an elite class of a government that harbored Osama Bin Laden. They are bringing the “liberal” version of screw-your-own-people peaceful Islam to America

    Why are they here? Is the US Government on good relations with the the Pakistani government? Were these wealthy people granted asylum? I don’t know, but I sure feel sorry that their Ramadan was ruined. Let’s celebrate their diversity.

  55. LR says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 8:55 pm

    I disagree with most on here. I wouldn’t let that comment slide if I heard it. I’d like to think I would call that person on saying, ‘go back to where you came from’, and point out she might have been born here, and a person has the right to be here if they are contributing to society, and believe in upholding the constitution and bill of rights.

  56. boocat says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 10:10 pm

    How about news of where Mrs. Mass Murderer is, or how the search for her whereabouts is going?

  57. Les says

    Jun 19, 2016 at 11:30 pm

    I just vomited after reading the title of the propaganda rag

  58. Norbert says

    Jun 20, 2016 at 2:45 pm

    Salwa did not understand how a woman could verbally attack her mother, especially in what she considers her own neighborhood. “If she doesn’t want to be surrounded by Muslims,” Salwa said, “why is she in this community?’”…

    That says it all. Whatever places Muslims EVER occupy, they deem Muslim in perpetuity. Infidels are not welcome. And expecting Muslims to stand up and protest the atrocities their co-religionists commit against infidels is to indulge in fantasy. They spend their whole lives obeying the rules of Islam, and their main tool of survival is to disappear into the group. To become invisible. To draw attention to yourself by dissent is to invite ostracism at best, and personal disaster at worst.

  59. Raj says

    Jun 20, 2016 at 5:59 pm

    Muslim Immigrants especially Pakistani and Bangladeshi immigrants create havoc, barbarism, paedophilia and a host of other Islamic practices in Europe, USA, Canada and Australia where they are a minority. But when they reach a population of say 15% and above, bigger catastrophic situations occurs to the people of the host country. The book written by Peter Hammond and the research done by Nicolai Sennels throw light into the actuals of Islam. Their `peacefuls’ pave way to their radicals whose (un)principles form the core of Islam

  60. captain obvious says

    Jun 22, 2016 at 12:36 am

    The rape of a 5 year old by refugees is sealed.

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/06/idaho-residents-call-for-justice-for-5-year-old-girl-raped-by-muslim-migrants-perps-remain-unpunished/comment-page-1#comment-1462845

    The interesting thing is the father gave them the high five for it.

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