But he insists nonetheless that “this had nothing to do with religion,” and that will, of course, be the official line, with the mainstream media full of stories about “right-wing homophobia” and “anti-Muslim backlash.” Watch for them; they’ll be coming very soon.
“Orlando Nightclub Gunman’s Father Says Son Was Angry After Seeing Two Men Kissing,” by Brendan O’Connor, Gawker, June 12, 2016:
An MSNBC staff writer spoke with the father of Omar Mateen, the gunman who shot and killed at least 50 people at a gay nightclub in Orlando on Sunday.
“We are apologizing for the whole incident. We weren’t aware of any action he is taking, we are in shock like the whole country. This had nothing to do with religion,” the gunman’s father said. However, he also claimed his son got very angry when he saw two men kissing in downtown Miami recently.

grace says
Of course it has nothing to do with islam. And he wasn’t a moslem. And pigs fly.
Idania says
I would get this father under surveillance. The “is not about religion” says a lot about him.
utis says
And his imam. And his imam’s imam. Don’t we have any J. Edgar Hoover’s anymore (no tasteless jokes, please — 50 dead bodies is just rock bottom for me)?
Godwin says
This father should be arrested for complicity, for he knew that his angry son has acquired those deadly weapons n failed to report to the FBI.
David says
WWMD
“What would Mohammad do?”
The bodies weren’t even cold when MSNBC this morning had someone talking about “how right wing hate groups kill just as many gay persons”.
Really? WWJD is TOTALLY OPPOSITE!
Angemon says
WDMD – What Did Muhammad Do?
Jeff says
Good point!
Shirl says
Of course not!! Don’t you know that Islam is the religion of peace?? UGHHHHH…
Idania says
Obama is to blame for all terrorism in the US. He is the one promoting the muslim’s invasion of the USA.
Sam Hawkins says
But, but, but … anti-gay passages are in the bible, too! Any minute now, the Southern Baptists will start throwing blindfolded gays off rooftops!
/SJW
Jack says
Yep this guy was probably a Baptist, or even a Quaker, he couldn’t have been a Muslim because Islam is a religion of peace
CrossWare says
I am gay (a lesbian) and I wonder how many of my brothers or sisters were in that nightclub endorsing fully the Leftist Liberal PC dogmas and lovingly welcomed the cultural enrichment of muslims into their neighborhoods. Did they had the time, a split second before they died to realize how wrong they were. I also wonder if any member of the LGBT community will be able rethink their position about islam or they continue believe in the BS until their time will come and they have to look down the barrel of a gun or see the knife in a muslim’s hand while their blood pouring down to the floor…
Hi Moe says
We need more like you. Please spread the word. LGBT support for the Palestinian “cause” for example – what they don’t know is that they are being useful idiots for their propaganda, and they are scorned behind closed doors…for now.
Jack says
It truly amazes me that the majority of gays seems to favor Islam over Christianity.
Hi Moe says
Because they don’t know much about the religion of peace.
Hope says
CrossWare, thank you for posting that. We DO need more people like you to get the truth out to the LGBT community, and to liberals in general. Thank you!
Hans Schneider says
@CrossWare
You are absolutely right!
Here in Germany members of the LGBT community have been attacked by Muslims, and beaten up by them, for years. But the community still refuses to see the threat posed by muslim immigrants.
Hi Moe says
Many reports out of Germany – I wish Germany well in dealing with the invaders.
CrossWare says
Thank you all… Sometime I have the feeling I am all alone in this, most of my friends like deers who never seen a human, not running away just looking at him while he pointing a metal stick toward them.
dts says
I’m a gay guy – I second you on all of this. It’s both frustrating and sad to be in the position that you and I (and so many others – at least I hope there are many) are in here. My friends start giving me the sort of kind, thoughtful expressions you might give a child with serious delusions when I air my views on the matter, counter with an npr-received line or two and go on thinking they are the right-headed ones on the point. I mean to really work on the gaps in my own knowledge here, so that I’ll be better equipped to handle the discussions when they arise.
linnte says
DTS, that is a good idea. Get solid on Quranic text and Hadiths. I am still having to flip pages of my Qur’an because it is hard for me to remember them. But I am sure your memory will be good with the need to get the word out to the Gay community! It is critical that they hear exact words and encourage them to find out for themselves too. God Bless you!
dumbledoresarmy says
Crossware – I’m assuming you’re American – have you joined ACT for America? Look them up and check out the local chapter.
PS I’m an Aussie; I have a gay daughter who is *totally* unaware, right at the moment. It’s *impossible* to talk to her about my concerns.. which include a deep and real fear for her safety in the future, as more and more Muslims flood into Australia. It’s very heartening for me to see a Lesbian lady who *has* woken up. Gives me hope for my daughter…
PPS – My very first thought when I heard about the attack and discovered the identity of the murderer was just a sheet of blazing, white-hot *anger*. Not tears. ANGER. I’d have been angry enough about it – as I am about all evil, all murder – had the murderer been a non-Muslim. But then when you discover it’s some allahu-akbaring mohammedan performing human sacrifices to his ‘god’…. It reminded me of the Bali Bombing of 2002 that murdered no fewer than 88 Aussie holidaymakers along with a lot of people from other countries, and it reminded me of the Bataclan massacre, and San Bernardino. I looked at my computer screen and I said, Oh, sh*t those bl**dy Mohammedans are killing *more* of us.
The way we honour our fellow Infidel dead is by gritting our teeth and vowing to persevere and continue learning about the Enemy and raising the alarm and finding whatever ways we can to Resist Islamisation.
Here’s something from the archives. I don’t know when you first came on board here, so I don’t know whether you’ve seen it. Just in case you haven’t, I’m sharing it. It’s by Mr Spencer’s very erudite friend ‘Hugh Fitzgerald. He posted it here in January this year. Something to put iron in the soul.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/01/hugh-fitzgerald-the-task-you-have-taken-upon-yourself
Hugh Fitzgerald: The Task You Have Taken Upon Yourself
linnte says
I have gay friends and they have rose colored glasses on too about Islam, except one guy. He knows and voices loudly. Hopefully this travesty will wake a few more of our gay population UP!
dumbledoresarmy says
Hi! Welcome to the decidedly ad-hoc de facto Order of the Phoenix.
You are not entirely alone.
If I understand correctly Douglas Murray, who speaks out very plainly, is gay. And Bruce Bawer, who saw the jihad coming down the pike – especially the problem in Europe – a good while before many others did. And there was Pym Fortuyn, an openly-gay Dutch politician. *He* saw and spoke out about the danger of Islam… and a deluded Islamophile (a non-Muslim!) **killed him**… to protect the poor, poor Muslims!!!
Have you visited the ‘Citizen Warrior’ website? It has lots of very helpful and interesting tips about ways of trying to get the message through and make people aware of the ever-increasing peril posed by the Global Jihad.
linnte says
De-facto Order of the Phoenix! I love that! Come to think of it, Jesus was a sort of “Phoenix” wasn’t he? You are so wonderful to point this woman in the right direction for information. Thanks General!
Hi Moe says
Yep, it’s going to be homophobia this time, you’re right. Nevermind that ISIS throws gays off rooftops (because it’s easier than finding a mountain) , who are then stoned by exuberant crowds on the ground. That’s just homophobia too, not organized hatred, no. I wonder what it will be next time…
copakeman says
I don’t if 2 men or women kiss each other, it is their choice. I am not going to get an assault rifle and pistol and kill all different lifestyle people. There is only 1 religion that condemns to death such lifestyles, the “peaceful” religion of islam. This marteen gives our country ANOTHER reason to deport every muslim out of our country today. How many more slaughters will it take to have our politicians in DC figure this out ?
There will be more slaughters on the way from this peaceful religion.
Today,does anyone remember the World Trade Center Event (a poor description) and who did it.
bernie says
While I personally disagree with homosexuality, I find it bizarre that most of these same Islamofascist thugs, who are incensed at seeing 2 adult amles consensually kiss each other, think it’s perfectly halal for grown men to have anal intercourse wiht young boys, like with that Iraqi rapefugee who brutally rape3d a 10-year-old non-Muslim boy at a swimming pool in Austria last year (which is not to say that there areen’t plenty of Muslim boys who get similar treatment, like the Bacha Bazi in Afghanistan).
Veritas says
What’s that smell?
Didn’t take long to start sounding like San Bernardino.
He was probably radicalized by the Internet. If so, it’s only fair that we shut it down.
He won’t be enjoying any ‘scattered pearls’ in paradise I’m guessing.
gladly here says
Actually muslims get ‘boys that never bleed’ I will leave you with that – just google it
Hope says
Disgusting, MSNBC and other mainstream media, for rushing to do damage control YET AGAIN! Defending islam is your priority once again, as a pile of dead bodies litters the ground. Filthy liars, the lot of you. The blood of these dead and wounded victims is on your hands, and the hands of Barack Obama and other politicians who have worked so hard at protecting islamic murderers and rapists! We have had enough of your lies! F*** you and F*** islam!
Hi Moe says
Notice that some reports are throwing in other “mass shootings” such as Columbine. What a disgrace.
Khushi says
The newspaper here also trotted out all ‘lone wolf’ attacks on American soil – mentioning each perpetrator’s name where ever it was a non-muslim.
Shame on such lop-sided reporting.
Rasmussen says
Well , we won’t know what this really is about ,until O’bummer has declared that this massacre has got absolutely nothing to do with the “religion” of peace…..
Raja says
Muslim men kiss each other so often and this man should have been infuriated by such scenes too. Islam besides been hate mongering and war mongering is fathered by an impotent devil to depend on ANY FAITHFUL MORAL POLICE TO CARRY OUT EVIL DEEDS. The message of Islam to the West is : IF you do you are damned and if you don’t you are damned. God save the planet from evil Islam.
Jaladhi says
This Afghani conveniently forgot what his countrymen do to young Afghani boys as young as 10 years old. What a hypocrite bunch these Muslims are!!
abad says
Islam strictly forbids Muslims from entering nightclubs anyways – what was this Ishnaq thinking?
He ought to go live in a mosque instead.
Jaladhi says
We wasted so many precious American lives to save Afghanistan and even allowed thousands of Afghans to come here and look what we get in return. This is how a Muslim shows his gratitude in return of helping him and saving him. Aesop’s Fable of a monkey on the back of alligator holds good. Nothing good will come of helping Muslims.
Normal Islamic gratitude to non-Muslims.
Ban Islam and stop all Muslim immigration!!
Sog says
The elite can protect themselves against Islamist Jihadis, it’s the rest of us who suffer. They will actually be in alliance with the Islamists and the impoverished precariat masses against those to whom they are Afraid: Armed Americans hell bent on re-establishing the 1st Amendment and the rest of the great American Constitution. The elite are on a slippery slope. They’d better watch out.
Mo says
I get angry when I see such things as well. The difference is I don’t kill people over it nor do I encourage other people to kill anyone over it. Nor do I have the slightest desire to do any of that.
Jes says
Figures this shooting is connected to muslim extremeism.
nicu says
Many Non – Muslims think that way , too 🙁
Peter says
This country is run by left wing liberal media and the Wall Street who will decide who our next president would be . They want want somebody who will do their bidding and dance to their tune. They have found one in Hilary and that idiot who calls himself Burnie ! That is why the whole liberal media is engaged in a smear campaign against Donald who has the spine to speak his mind .God save America and the world from the leftist loonie bin! Please vote for Trump who is the only hope under the circumstances.
Ninsuna says
Sure, it had nothing to do with islam. Everyone knows that entails tossing gays off rooftops, hanging them from cranes, burning them alive and lopping off heads.
Wonder how this event will grow the ranks of that brilliant group “Queers for Palestine”?
And of course, there will be calls to respond by joining the BDS movement against Israel, since Israel is the cause of islamic terrorism (and all other worldly evils). (Please hear the sarc).
Moronic apologists for the religion of peace will continue to stammer about the greater danger of “islamophobia” while the body count continues to rise. God help us.
Fab Feringhee says
When will we take action to rid ourselves of these people? How many must die?
Jana says
I certainly think the shooters family should be locked up and held responsible. That is the only thing that might help all of this. They would think twice if they knew their families would be held responsible for what they do. The American People need to WAKE UP. Trump is the only one with the balls to keep us safe.
Edgar Allen says
Omar Mateen’s father: This had nothing to do with religion. (Of course not)
Here’s standard Islamic teaching about homosexuals. From their own websites.
https://islamqa.info/en/38622
The crime of homosexuality is one of the greatest of crimes, the worst of sins and the most abhorrent of deeds, and Allaah punished those who did it in a way that He did not punish other nations. It is indicative of violation of the fitrah, total misguidance, weak intellect and lack of religious commitment, and it is a sign of doom and deprivation of the mercy of Allaah.
al-Tirmidhi (1456), Abu Dawood (4462)and Ibn Maajah (2561) narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: THE MESSENGER OF ALLAAH (PEACE AND BLESSINGS OF ALLAAH BE UPON HIM) SAID: “WHOEVER YOU FIND DOING THE ACTION OF THE PEOPLE OF LOOT, EXECUTE THE ONE WHO DOES IT AND THE ONE TO WHOM IT IS DONE.”. Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.
The Sahaabah were unanimously agreed on the execution of homosexuals, but they differed as to how they were to be executed. Some of them were of the view that they should be burned with fire, which was the view of ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) and also of Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him), as we shall see below. And some of them thought that they should be thrown down from a high place then have stones thrown at them. This was the view of Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him).
Some of them thought that they should be stoned to death, which was narrated from both ‘Ali and Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with them).
https://islamqa.info/en/38622
Guest says
As horrible as this was it could have been worse. What if the shooting happened at Disney World.
tiffany gibbs says
wow..good point!
Carmel says
Unfortunately , it might take this to open eyes of many .
Singh the Singh says
Dad said son was angry when he saw two men kissing…makes sense: Muslims take out their anger by gunning down people.
tiffany gibbs says
How does the father know what his sons motives where??? Seems like he might have had some idea. They say they are about peace?? Wow lets start seeing some, any. I mean ANY show of love, understanding and tolerance. What you expect out of the great people of the United states of America who will soon put a boot up you ass..just saying!
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
Carmel says
« …son became angry when he saw two men kissing …»
He prefer to see one man killing .
Ali Bey says
nothing to do with religion… Excusatio not petita acusatio manifesta.
Ali Bey says
and father for President of Afgahnistan… All very folkloric although tragically folckloric
Ali Bey says
May Allah be UNpleased with me.
Ali Bey says
Dear Bernie: anal intercourse with young boys, forcibly or in exchange of bread was the prefered hobby of morocans serving with Franco troops in the Spanish Civil War
Pete says
This is not about religion……his father is ignorant like his prophet. But still he knows it is enforced by his religion. So like a good muslim he has to lie about it.
Stan Lore says
How many retaliatory acts against Muslims are documented in the U.S. since 9/11/2001? How many Muslims killed in U.S. as revenge for Islamic terrorism?
Abu Nudnik says
His son saw two men kissing who weren’t his pa and grandpa, giving him the idea he might have a choice of mates when he grew up. If he’d cared about his son, he’d have cared that his son would grow up without a father.
Manuele says
Maybe he was jealous that is was not the other kissed. STOP MAKING EXCUSES SONS OF MUHAMMAD BITCHES.