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Robert Spencer, PJ Media: Do Facebook and Twitter want foes of jihad dead?

Jun 3, 2016 11:06 am By Robert Spencer

Over at PJ Media, I discuss a new example of the double standard Twitter and Facebook employ regarding those whose views they dislike:

Obaid Karki

The antipathy of Twitter and Facebook to conservatives is well-established. The social media giants’ hatred presumably therefore also applies to opponents of jihad terror, who are universally classified as “right-wing,” however absurd the label.

But do Twitter and Facebook draw the line at death threats against them?

The question arises because of one Obaid Karki, @stsheetrock on Twitter, who describes himself thusly:

I Ain’t Anglosexual Liberal Hippie, Neither Wolf nor Dog, I am a coyote. A Paulite Picassoic Provocateur Constitutionalist Libertarian.

Any doubt that he is quite spectacularly insane will be removed by a perusal of one or both of his incoherent and gleefully obscene websites. Karki is engaging in some bizarre parody of a deranged imam, or perhaps he is trying to make some other kind of inscrutable humor. One of his websites is titled “Obaid Karki St.Sheetrock’s Painfulpolitics Offensive Comedy Hepcat.” The offensive comedy is there, in spades. His other site is called “Suicide Bombers Magazine”, and bears this heading: “Dislaimer: we swear on Elvis’s pickled penis that ‘non-sapient beings’ I mean animals harmed during IED kahbooom.”

Hmm.

But just because Karki is insane or possibly joking doesn’t mean that he can’t be dangerous — especially if he is also making specific calls for people to be murdered.

Last Saturday, he posted this:

Robert Spencer mustn’t [be] featured but lynched from his scrotum along with Zionists scumbags, Pamela Geller, Pat Condell, Daniel Pipes, Debbie Schlussel and JIHADWATCH Jackass duo Baron Bodissey & Geert Wilders for inspiring Anders Behring Breivik to [kill] innocent students in 2011.

Actually, neither Bodissey or Wilders run Jihad Watch — I do — and I didn’t inspire Breivik to do anything, but there is no arguing with a crazy person. But what is interesting about Karki’s post, aside from his loony language, is that he posted this call for me and others to be lynched on Twitter, which has a clearly stated policy against death threats.

Per “The Twitter Rules”:

Violent threats (direct or indirect): You may not make threats of violence or promote violence, including threatening or promoting terrorism.

I therefore duly reported Karki’s threat, but as of this writing, it has not been taken down (in fact, Karki has since posted it again, and has posted variants of it several times).

Maybe Twitter is just slow to deal with the large number of complaints it receives? To buy that argument, you have to buy that they have a two-year backlog.

On May 12, 2014, Karki also posted this:

Robert Spencer must be arrested and lynched along the Zionists Dumbasses Daniel Pipes, Geert Wilders and JIHADWATCH …

You can see from this 2014 Twitter exchange linked above that several people claimed they reported Karki for this threat, as did I.

Not only does Karki still have his Twitter account — while many conservatives have lost their accounts for far less — but the 2014 threat remains there.

Hold on — I misspoke above.

I meant to say you would have to buy that Twitter has a three-year backlog of death threats to police.

Here, read a Karki tweet from September 18, 2013:

Robert Spencer must be shot head not only for comparing Alnoor 24:35 to Corinthians 11:14-15 satanically but for …

So now you have an example of how Twitter responded to death threats against a political opponent.

How about Facebook?

Not only is Karki on Twitter, but he also has a Facebook page containing the same lurid and paranoid content — including the threats. He did claim he was temporarily barred this Sunday:

I am axed outta Facebook for 7 days …

… but, I just read that on his Facebook page. What exactly this axing entailed remains unclear.

At least the social media titans are consistent. The site Epoch Times reported last March:

[W]hile Twitter says it is making strong efforts to shut down terrorist accounts, activists say that not only is the microblogging company not taking down the accounts that matter, but it has even been shutting down accounts of users trying to report terrorists.

The age of Obama has featured a rapid decline in appreciation for the freedom of speech. College students and — in many, many cases — their professors routinely avow that “hate speech is not free speech.” They cannot grasp that if they get their wish allows whatever the government subjectively deems “hate speech” to be criminalized, and the foremost protection against tyranny will have been removed.

At that moment, free society literally ends….

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  1. KrazyKafir says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 11:23 am

    Facebook is loathed to censor one of their own, and this Islamist is one of their own.

  2. Jerry says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 11:28 am

    Of course Spencer is right, once free speech is gone we are no longer a free people. If we lose the right to even speak out against ignorance, crime, and immorality, then we are slaves to those evils. Islam’s highest authority, their god, teaches murder of us and our most sacred values. It’s religious Nazism. And any person, our group, or social network, that fights our sacred right to speak and act against these evils are themselves criminals in my view. They think by removing the chalk board they can prevent us from knowing the truth and acting according to our good conscience. But as big as Facebook and Twitter may be at the present moment, they are not above the consequences of their own bad actions. By “consequences” I mean the disgrace that comes with denying others their basic human right of free expression about matters of great social concern. The more they stop us from talking the ugly truth the more people will die for islam’s ideology of bigotry and hate. This is so wrong.

    • Jerry says

      Jun 3, 2016 at 11:32 am

      …The blood is on their hands, not ours. We seek peace through truth, justice, and equality. Islam is against these virtues, and apparently so is Facebook and Twitter.

      • Jerry says

        Jun 3, 2016 at 11:37 am

        Suckerberg is just a pathetic, grovelling member of the nouveau riche. If merkel asked him to jump off a building for islam he’d probably do it.

        • mortimer says

          Jun 3, 2016 at 3:15 pm

          Zuckerberg is shallow. He has no philosophy. This ‘tolerance’ clap means not being able to differentiate a sensible, well-reasoned, factual argument from a shallow, unfounded, fallacious claim.

        • Mark Swan says

          Jun 3, 2016 at 5:10 pm

          Yes Mortimer—but he had better rmember going public with any company means
          share-holders and their expectations—if enough people just stop using the site it
          will change His attitude quick enough.

  3. Lloyd Miller says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 11:40 am

    Saudi Arabia is an enemy nation. All its assets in the West should be seized and a import of its oil outlawed.

  4. Paul says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 11:58 am

    Well. We don’t need THOSE eggs.

    Hang in there Spencer. Just remember, Facebook and Twitter are just websites. They are not the internet. They are just websites on the internet.

    • Jerry says

      Jun 3, 2016 at 12:40 pm

      They are not the internet. They are just websites on the internet.

      True, but they are a big part of the internet where important issues and views are spoken. Millions visit, and if our POV is banned then there’s nothing to stop the opposing views from wreaking havoc. And it sets a bad precedent when any social networks begin a hyper-critical censoring of views they don’t happen to like. And that’s really what’s going on here. I quit Google for 2 years and Facebook permanently because my own conservative views were banned. No swearing, no threats, no obscene remarks, they just didn’t like my candid views on islam and other stuff. Didn’t matter if I used unassailable logic with valid references, my views weren’t welcome. It’s an old and oft quoted bit of wisdom, “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” If we can’t even speak our outrage and moral superiority then by implication we can do nothing. Unless of course the people rise up and defy the powers that be in such a way that demands consideration and respect. And I guess one could interpret that in many different ways.

      • mortimer says

        Jun 3, 2016 at 3:07 pm

        Jerry wrote: “Unassailable logic”

        Islam has no logic or fact behind it, since it is a fabrication by hundreds of individuals over 400 years. Muslim scholars are aware of the accretions of hearsay that turned speculation eventually into factoids. Modern scholarship has shown Islam lacks historicity.

        Islam is obscurantist and so relies on death threats in place of facts and logic.

        This is why Muslim apologists lose EVERY DEBATE. Islam has no substance. It’s a house of cards.

        • Jerry says

          Jun 3, 2016 at 3:50 pm

          Islam is obscurantist and so relies on death threats in place of facts and logic.

          Right, and millions have died and suffered as a result. If that’s not evil worth speaking against then I don’t know what is.

  5. Jerry says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 12:04 pm

    Thank goodness we have SUCKERBERG (Caps cuz he’s so important) on planet Earth to dictate to the masses how they should think and express themselves. Goodness, aren’t we all lucky? Why that little pipsqueek knows EVERYTHING! He knows who and why people should be mad, concerned, intelligent, hateful, and everything else humans can think and feel, and how it should all be expressed. I wonder if his family were killed by muslims, or raped, or lost their home and neighborhood, if he too might be tempted throw in a damn or f*ck now and then in his online views? I wonder if he too might be tempted to see the darker side of islam’s doctrine of bigotry and hate. I wonder too if he might not see the detrimental effects of letting in millions of muslims that live by the creed that caused his own tragic suffering. Hmmm…..I wonder.

    I have no love or admiration for moral cowards, especially when death, rape, and suffering is the result. Need I mention names?

    • Carmel says

      Jun 3, 2016 at 3:29 pm

      Because he is making a lot of money , Suckerberg impress many . In America , peoples who make money are always seen as gods. There is the problem . What would the country be if someone start to admire peoples who have ideas ? Like RS for one .

      • Mark Swan says

        Jun 3, 2016 at 5:18 pm

        That seems easy enough to answer Carmel, it would be better—right.

  6. M. X says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 12:09 pm

    Yes, Obaid Karki is a crazy Arab Muslim racist. He has been in trouble with YouTube before, and has enemies in high places in his own country. He’s basically a total nutjob hungering for worldwide fame. He’s been embarrassed by Christian Prince – CP exposed him as an empty-headed braggart. Karki won’t hurt a fly himself, but he should be called out for his extreme calls for homicidal violence. SHAME ON ALL SOCIAL MEDIA SITES THAT FAIL TO REPRIMAND HIS GENOCIDAL HARASSMENTS.

    • Mirren10 says

      Jun 3, 2016 at 4:16 pm

      ”Karki won’t hurt a fly himself … ”

      How can you be so sure ?

      • Mark Swan says

        Jun 3, 2016 at 5:20 pm

        We can not be so sure–can we.

  7. Walter Sieruk says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 12:22 pm

    That’s terrible Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller as well as Brigitte Gabriel do have every right to speak the truth and warn the public about the horrible violent dangers about Islam’s militant jihad as warn people in this country and the sly ,subtle and insidious of the stealth jihad of Islam. For this is America where there is ,or should be freedom of speech. The imam Karki must be terribly afraid those patriots ,just mention, might get the truth out the the American people Karki can’t refute or prove wrong ,in any way, the statements of truth by such brave Americans. So this imam and other like him resort the threats of death to silence truth speakers. Furthermore,it should be stated that as Christian and an American I will also will not be intimidated into silence by Islamic threat by any Salafist Muslims of any other jihadists. Coercion will not work and through the computer such jihad minded Muslims are able to find me .Nevertheless I don’t fear them and declare that not only am I against the stealth and militant jihad and further stated the the founder of Islam was a false prophet who had started a false religion. The false religion that is Islam is a cult of darkness, Isaiah 8:20, and only leads many people terribly astray and into hell, Proverbs 14:12 . In addition, all dear Muslims need to and should examine the God’s message of the Bible to to humankind and discover the total falseness Islam that is in strong contrast to the Truth of Jesus. John 3:16-18,36. 14:6 First John 2:22,23.

  8. Mitch says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 12:53 pm

    Off-topic (sort of): Is the JW website under attack today (June 3) ? I can’t load the homepage; getting a “too many redirects” error.

    • Cecilia Ellis says

      Jun 3, 2016 at 12:59 pm

      Mitch, I am not experiencing that problem.

    • miriamrove says

      Jun 3, 2016 at 1:01 pm

      I don’t think so. I am on it with no problems. M

    • Carmel says

      Jun 3, 2016 at 3:31 pm

      Nor me .

    • Champ says

      Jun 3, 2016 at 3:33 pm

      Mitch, no problem on my end, either. Sorry that you’re having issues.

  9. Christianblood says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 1:03 pm

    (…Do Facebook and Twitter want foes of jihad dead?…)

    Yes, Yes, Yes they do! Facebook, Twitter and all MSM and other Western elites are the real enablers of the global islamic jihadists. They are all dangerous traitors and should be considered as such.

  10. Charli Main says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 1:11 pm

    Some while back, the only way I could log on to the MSN comments section was by using Facebook.

    Every time I quoted a passage from the Koran, giving the verse number, it was deleted in minutes and my account suspended. I then had to contact the moderators, read their policy on ” racist ” and ” offensive” comments.
    In the end I just gave up with a ” f**k facebook” sigh and have never bothered with them again.
    Freedom of speech is rapidly becoming consigned to the dustbin of history and ” don´t upset the Muslims” the new global mantra.

  11. Guest says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 1:29 pm

    Do they want enemies of Jihad dead. I doubt it. They are just shameless cowards who are afraid to be branded Islamphobia

  12. somehistory says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 3:16 pm

    He’s not insane. He’s evil and nasty. Nasty mind, nasty *mouth*.
    They *axed* him for his opinion and he freely gave it.

    And what’s the deal with all of the books? Didn’t some moslim with islam authority say books were bad? Isn’t that why they destroyed libraries?

    This evil, nasty-minded, ugly, will reap wheat he is sowing. That is the Law that the One True God made ions ago. The One Who makes real Laws, the Laws that matter and cannot be broken without consequence.

  13. Carmel says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 3:36 pm

    Mein Keimpf cannot be published without a foreword note that indicates this book is a hate book . Since Qu’ran has more anti-semitism in it ( 9% rather than 5 %) , there should be a foreword notice too in that book in America.

    • Champ says

      Jun 3, 2016 at 3:38 pm

      Spot on, Carmel!

  14. Champ says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 3:54 pm

    The age of Obama has featured a rapid decline in appreciation for the freedom of speech. College students and — in many, many cases — their professors routinely avow that “hate speech is not free speech.” They cannot grasp that if they get their wish allows whatever the government subjectively deems “hate speech” to be criminalized, and the foremost protection against tyranny will have been removed.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    True–I’ve observed the same development, courtesy obama.

    And, sadly, truth has become the new “hate speech”, when in fact facing the ugly truth about islam’s lies will set one free from this eivl trap.

  15. Sam Hawkins says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 4:42 pm

    Alternatives?

    Have any JW readers used VKontakte (Russian FB equivalent)? Better? Worse?

    • Angemon says

      Jun 3, 2016 at 9:45 pm

      I’m going to go on a limb and say that you should be fine just as long as you’re not criticising Putin.

  16. revereridesagain says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 6:15 pm

    This is happening all over, and sometimes we don’t even hear about some of the worst cases. Look what is being done to Edward Cline, author of the great “Sparrowhawk” series and several books criticizing Islam:

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/263068/what-happened-one-air-force-veteran-threatened-daniel-greenfield

    This is outrageous. Anyone besieged like this for speaking the truth about Islam deserves all the help and support we can give them.

  17. torino390 says

    Jun 4, 2016 at 5:27 am

    I think the days of free speech as we know it are drawing to a close. These are sad times indeed.

  18. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Jun 4, 2016 at 6:12 pm

    Millennials have been indoctrinated by old 60s leftist “activists” – jealous and useless professional complainers, slanderous extortionist agitators – into hating their parents for “taking” everything and “hording” it in stead of just dying already and giving it all to them NOW! Why should they work when they’ve been taught they’re so “privileged!”?

    So they hate anything and everything from what they presume is their parents’ “conservative establishment,” and feel perfectly entitled to help all the other “victims” (because their parents are obviously racists, since white people founded North America, either refusing the brown people’s offers to help, or by genociding them outright and stealing all their wonderful inventions) to tear it all down so they can then build it all up again, but this time with THEM SELVES in charge! “WHEE!”

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