“I found that the history of Islam was completely different from what we were taught at school.”
There is a concerted effort to whitewash the bloody history of jihad and mislead people about the history of Islam in general. Take a small example: the Sphinx’s nose. It was destroyed not by Napoleon’s troops in target practice (as goes the common story), but by the Muslim precursors of the Islamic State. In a rare moment of candor, Russia Today noted in 2015:
“Attacks on the Sphinx date back centuries. Despite many legends surrounding the monument’s missing nose – with harm from Napoleon’s cannon being among the most popular myths – historians believe it was actually destroyed by Sufi Muslim Muhammad Sa’im al-Dahr in the 14th century, after he learned that some peasants worshipped the Sphinx.”
Many of the incidents of Muslim destruction of artifacts are ascribed to Infidels, in keeping with the general tendency of Islamic supremacists to blame everyone but themselves for their own wrongdoing. In Balkan Ghosts: A Journey Through History, Robert D. Kaplan repeats uncritically what he probably heard from local Muslims: that the icons in the local churches had their eyes scraped off because the superstitious local Christians had taken them to mix in health potions.
It is, however, virtually inconceivable that Orthodox believers, even the most ignorant and superstitious, would desecrate icons in this way. It is much more likely that the icons had no eyes because Islamic authorities consider that it is sufficient to destroy the representation of the face in order to ruin the image as a representation of the human form. And that’s why the nose of the Sphinx was gone long before Napoleon’s troops ever had target practice.
Then there is the persistent myth of a tolerant, peaceful al-Andalus, supposedly a paradise of proto-multiculturalism under Muslim rule. Reality does not at all match politically correct fantasy. Even Maria Rosa Menocal, in her romantic and fantastic hagiography of Muslim Spain, The Ornament of the World, acknowledges the second-class status to which Jews and Christians were relegated there. “In return for this freedom of religious conscience the Peoples of the Book (pagans had no such privilege) were required to pay a special tax–no Muslims paid taxes–and to observe a number of restrictive regulations: Christians and Jews were prohibited from attempting to proselytize Muslims, from building new places of worship, from displaying crosses or ringing bells. In sum, they were forbidden most public displays of their religious rituals.”
According to historian Richard Fletcher, “Moorish Spain was not a tolerant and enlightened society even in its most cultivated epoch.” On December 30, 1066, about four thousand Jews in Granada were murdered by rioting Muslim mobs–more than would be killed in the Crusaders’ infamous Rhineland pogroms of the mid-twelfth century. What enraged the Granadan Muslims was the political power of the Jewish vizier Samuel ibn Naghrila and his son Joseph: the mob resented the fact that these men had authority over Muslims, which they saw as a “breach of sharia.” The mob was incited to kill the Jews by a poem composed by Muslim jurist Abu Ishaq: “I myself arrived in Granada and saw that these Jews were meddling in its affairs. … So hasten to slaughter them as a good work whereby you will earn God’s favor, and offer them up in sacrifice, a well-fattened ram.”
The mob heeded his call. A Muslim chronicler (and later sultan of Granada), ‘Abd Allah, said that “both the common people and the nobles were disgusted by the cunning of the Jews, the notorious changes they had brought in the order of things, and the positions they occupied in violation of their pact [of second-class status].” He recounted that the mob “put every Jew in the city to the sword and took vast quantities of their property.”
This whitewash of history in general is for the purposes of dawah. But sometimes, as in this case, Johannes, a Muslim who was raised with these kinds of falsehoods, discovers the truth, and they have the opposite effect.
“European churches say growing flock of Muslim refugees are converting,” by Harriet Sherwood and Philip Oltermann, Guardian, June 5, 2016 (thanks to Rod):
A growing number of Muslim refugees in Europe are converting to Christianity, according to churches, which have conducted mass baptisms in some places.
Reliable data on conversions is not available but anecdotal evidence suggests a pattern of rising church attendance by Muslims who have fled conflict, repression and economic hardship in countries across the Middle East and central Asia.
Complex factors behind the trend include heartfelt faith in a new religion, gratitude to Christian groups offering support during perilous and frightening journeys, and an expectation that conversion may aid asylum applications.
At Trinity church in the Berlin suburb of Steglitz, the congregation has grown from 150 two years ago to almost 700, swollen by Muslim converts, according to Pastor Gottfried Martens. Earlier this year, churches in Berlin and Hamburg reportedly held mass conversions for asylum seekers at municipal swimming pools.
The Austrian Catholic church logged 300 applications for adult baptism in the first three months of 2016, with the Austrian pastoral institute estimating 70% of those converting are refugees.
At Liverpool’s Anglican Cathedral in the UK, a weekly Persian service attracts between 100 and 140 people. Nearly all are migrants from Iran, Afghanistan and elsewhere in central Asia.
One in four confirmations conducted by the bishop of Bradford, Toby Howarth, over the past year were of converts from Islam. Most were Iranian and most of those were asylum seekers.
Mohammad Eghtedarian, a curate at Liverpool Cathedral and a refugee from Iran who converted to Christianity and was later ordained, said the church was helping people to develop their faith and to apply for refugee status. “These two are intertwined. Most people apply for asylum on the basis of their religion,” he said.
His own journey, from the Iranian city of Shiraz to the UK, took him through half a dozen European countries, by truck, train and on foot. Destitute and terrified, he was offered practical and emotional support from Christians along the way….
Johannes, another Iranian, left Tehran for Vienna. Born into a Muslim family, the 32-year-old – who was previously called Sadegh – began questioning the roots of Islam at university. “I found that the history of Islam was completely different from what we were taught at school.
“A religion that began with violence cannot lead people to freedom and love. Jesus Christ said ‘those who use the sword will die by the sword’. This really changed my mind.”
Johannes began the process of converting to Christianity in Iran. He was ambushed with a group of others leaving a bible class but managed to escape and went into hiding. When the Austrian visa he had already applied for came through, he left the country.
Now waiting for the outcome of his asylum application, he has not told his parents of his conversion: only his sister knows his “secret”.
Authorities say there are about 90,000 Christians in Iran, though some human rights organisations put their number as high as 500,000. While Iranian law does not order the death penalty for converting from Islam to another faith, courts have handed down death sentences based on interpretation of Sharia law and legal opinions issued by religious leaders….
The Church of England does not collate figures on conversion. “This can be a delicate issue and we want to be sensitive to the backgrounds that people are from,” said Howarth….
Yes. People with backgrounds in a religion that mandates death for apostasy present a difficult challenge indeed.

Sergio says
God bless this priest. If the Europeans were still Christians, there would be no Islamic crisis in Europe. Their strong set of moral values alone would be enough to prove to any Muslim that the cross is vastly superior to the crescent.
eur says
I,m european ,
I am not a believer but recognize that the message of Jesus is infinitely superior to Muhammad . Jesus preached love , peace and forgiveness. Christianity to me should be just that . None of priests, bishops , cardinals … Not being a believer does not prevent me see that Islam is a fascist shit
LouRich says
Thank you! I couldn’t agree more. I’m not a Christian either (although I believe in God), but I would much rather have an evangelical for my neighbor than a devout Muslim. There is no comparison between the religions, even though people ignorant of both are always comparing them and declaring them the same.
gravenimage says
Hear, hear, guys!
dragaozao says
This maybe precisely the problem. Europe, has left Christian values long ago (just as part of USA). With values, we can easly resist. Without them, we will fall. But its true the influx of migrants and the radical views of islam in Europe are leading many people, including atheists, to recognize how valuable the judeo-christian culture is.
Sign of hope??? Lets hope so.
Bob says
Yes, Dragaozao – Europe, including the UK, has all but abandoned Christianity, leaving a spiritual vacuum which the Islamic death-cult is finding it all too easy to fill, aided by treachery from politicos!
DFD says
I beg to differ.
I do not know the numbers for all of Europe, but here in the UK and in Germany the number of people confessing to be Christians in polls are well of 60%, frequently. That is AFTER the pollsters made ‘adjustments’ to ‘obtain representative figures’. That, even though most of those are not Church goers – who can blame them? Also, many can’t be bothered answering truthfully, taking the view: ‘What’s the use?’
Despite that, the media always proclaims that Christians are a minority! The politicians? They follow the media. Lest they will be called ‘populist’, implying that it is bad doing what the electorate wants, which is what they have been voted into office for.
Instead, they do what the press instructs them to do, which then is hailed and approved of by the press as ‘providing true leadership by making unpopular decisions’.
Doesn’t seem to dawn on them that voter participation is dropping, dropping and dropping. And that alternative parties gain more and more ground.
My current favorite example: Germany’s super Sunday in March: Pollsters: The AfD will at the most achieve 9%, and that only from protest votes. Of course, after ‘adjusting the polls to be representative’. The newspapers (mainstream) advised that people should not waste their votes on mere protest parties, which amount to nothing anyway. Result: AfD between 20% and 25%, after a mere three years of existence Germany’s third strongest party…
Same is with those polls and stats about Christian percentage.
I believe one should not confuse Christians, nor their numbers, with the church ‘leadership’ and the dribble coming from the Lugenpresse (lying press).
abad says
Sergio:
What you say is very true.
Not all religions are created equal.
Jesus Christ died on the cross to save humanity from its sins.
What did Muhammad die for?
My guess is noting except his sick, twisted, Satan-inspired doctrines which will be destroyed when Christ returns to earth.
Lexa456 says
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Sergio said:
God bless this priest. If the Europeans were still Christians, there would be no Islamic crisis in Europe. Their strong set of moral values alone would be enough to prove to any Muslim that the cross is vastly superior to the crescent.
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Not in my opinion.
Jesus taught devotion, peace and love for everyone. This plays a Muslim only in the hands. They laugh at the Christian and use the charity to enslave him. I believe that is the reason why Muhammad constructed Islam as it is. It is very significant that Judaism and Christianity are explicitly discussed in the Quaran. I think he knew the core content of these two ancient religions very well and invented his own so that it exploited their weaknesses perfectly. Everything that is significant for Christians and Jews, he made bad and prohibited to his followers to doubt his word. There are no loopholes. There is no convincing through past life with the Muslims. Most will stick to their diabolism and try to enslave the Christians and Jews.
Sergio says
Christ does not teach us to be suicidal. Most of the staunchest opponents of Islam are actually devoted Christians such as Robert Spencer, Sam Shamoun, David Wood and others. The Islamization of what used to be known as Christendom is just a symptom of a much deeper and earlier problem: the cultural crisis brought about by moral relativism. And it does not take a genius to understand that moral relativism is the direct consequence of the rejection of Christianity.
Charli Main says
Is this going to be another example of ” I converted to Christianity but I didn´t mean it “????
Christianblood says
Charli Main posted
(…Is this going to be another example of ” I converted to Christianity but I didn´t mean it “????…)
Charli, there is no doubt that there are many muslims among the refugee in Europe
who want, sincerely to convert to Christianity my worry is that there are not many real true Christians left in Europe. I recently read a muslim man who wanted to convert to Christianity in Sweden and he went into a liberal “church” and at the end of the “service”, the “pastor” started “baptizing” a dog and then the pastor who was a homosexual was French-kissed by his gay “husband” in front of the “congregation” and the young muslim man run out of the church in disgust and wrote his observations in a local newspaper that muslims in Sweden read and was even interviewed by a local muslim radio who hid his name proving to the local muslims in a mocking way that Christianity is a morally corrupt system and warning other muslims should learn from this incident.
chanah says
and I believe this story to be taqiyya on the muslim part
Andra says
It surely is. In most European countries your chance for asylum status increases if you are Christian. And these stupid European institutions don´t ask when the transformation has taken place. (Usually they take place after a talk with an asylum-helper.)
By the way, the better chances for asylum result of the fact that Christians in Islamic countries live in danger. And these stupid European politicians don´t even realize that this rule doesn´t fit in with their “Islam is peace”-nantra.
Christianblood says
Andra posted
(…It surely is. In most European countries your chance for asylum status increases if you are Christian…)
No Andra! You got wrong! In Western European countries in the USA and in Canada your chance for asylum hugely decreases if you are a Christian! Western countries hugely favor muslims and resettle them in their millions compared to the real victims of the global islamic jihad war. For instance, as (Jihadwatch) noted just a few days ago 1,037 Syrian refugees are admitted in May into US but only Two Christians were included in that group and the rest of the 1,035 were Muslims.
Read more of this below Andra and wake up!
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/06/1037-syrian-refugees-admitted-in-may-two-christians-1035-muslims
Mirren10 says
Charli says:
”Is this going to be another example of ” I converted to Christianity but I didn´t mean it “????”
I would like to believe that these mohammedans are converting to Christianity as a result of a change of heart, but as a cynical old bat, I think ” … an expectation that conversion may aid asylum applications” is probably more like it. 🙁
Charli Main says
Hola M10
Muslims have a long history of false conversions to Christianity when it has suited them to fool the Kaffir.
When the Spanish finally managed to kick the Muslim invaders out of their Christian land, droves of Muslims ” converted” to Christianity so as to stay in Spain.
However, the Muslims continued to practice Islam in their homes. This situation became so widespread and common that laws were passed, that Muslims had to leave the front doors of their houses open, at all times.
Fooling the ” dumb Kaffir” is a Muslim national sport.
vivienne Leijonhufvu (@goldaleijonhufv) says
Right on, I wouldn’t trust a single Moslem, and “fooling the Kaffir” is a Moslem national sport” couldn’t have put it better myself. 🙂
Georgette Nordloh says
Vivienne, I agree with you! This was my first thought about these mass conversions! If so many in Europe have left Christianity or left the open practice of Christianity how were these Muslims converted in such large numbers. Who educated them to see The Light? I can see it all now, once these taies of mass conversions hit the U.S., more VOLGA agencies will give this as a reason to accept more Muslim refugees. Until I saw more fruits, I will not be confident these are conversions in truth.
LouRich says
We can only hope that these conversions are legitimate. The good news is that Muslims are naturally religious, and they DO want salvation and spiritual relevance. They are seeking! Many many Muslims all over the world have dreams and visions of Jesus. Conversion to Christianity is going on everywhere, not just in places where asylum applications are popular. So it’s entirely possible that Muslims are converting in their hearts and minds, not just making lies. I am not Christian myself, but I see how the message of Jesus would resonate for those looking for a more peaceful spiritual connection with God than that offered by Mohammed.
gravenimage says
I doubt these Muslims are falsely converting to Christianity to gain some sort of advantage–since there is no specific advantage for them, and a great deal of danger from pious Muslims.
Mirren10 says
With respect, graven, I disagree. You say; ” …there is no specific advantage for them …”
The advantage is, as the article mentions, that conversion to Christianity may make it easier for them to gain citizenship, or to collect benefits. I would submit that those two advantages would far outweigh any ” danger from pious muslims”, and such taqyiaa (can’t spell it) would probably be more than worth its weight in gold.
The greater question is, of course, what are we to do with those who purport to convert to Christianity ? Give them the benefit of the doubt ? And if we give them the benefit of the doubt, and they turn out to be ravening jihadists, who ”swore but they didn’t mean it”, or, alternatively, ‘accepted’ the Gospel, but didn’t mean it, what then ?
I don’t attempt to give any answers to these very difficult questions. But I do ask, when we have people who have clearly shown they have no allegiance to truth, how are we then to deal with what is really, an **attack on truth** ?? How do you deal with people to whom *truth* is nothing more than a way to fool people ? How do you sift such people, from the ones who really *do* believe in truth ?
How can we possibly deal with people whom **truth** is nothing more than a tool to hit the infidels with ? With those, whom, if it suits them, will *say* they have accepted Christianity, but in reality, are using it to gain an advantage ?
With reference to those who purport to accept Christianity, I would welcome input from dumbledoresarmy, as she is extremely knowledgeable on this front. I donate to the Barnabus Fund, and regularly receive their magazine, and updates, but I haven’t yet seen any comment on this problem.
I, personally, feel totally at sea. I would *love* to support Christians fleeing from mohammedan persecution, but how do I know they *are* Christians, or Yazidis, and not mohammedans looking to use my sense of compassion as yet another way to stick it to the infidels ?
How I hate, more and more and more, this foul cult that makes it impossible to trust and believe anyone who has had anything, even periphally, to do with it.
To quote you, graven, ”God, I hate islam”.
katherine says
That’s right – the same way Imam Hussein Obama converted in a Liberal black church where there is no need to discard your original religion. With an instantaneous Christian identity he could then spew truthful-sounding lies about the atrocities committed by Christians in history and apologize to his own Religion of Peace. With his General Knowledge alone he could preach about how unholy it is to throw stones from glasshouses (according to the Bible).
Wonder who that self-appointed bishop was who handled that conversion – great piece of work – no Catechism lessons needed.
Michael Copeland says
” courts have handed down death sentences based on interpretation of Sharia law and legal opinions issued by religious leaders….”
Employing the word “interpretation” is a whitewash, letting Islam off the hook.
Sharia law is straightforward and unequivocal:
“Leaving Islam is the ugliest form of unbelief (kufr) and the worst. …
“When a person…. voluntarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed.
There is no penalty for killing an apostate “since it is killing someone who deserves to die”.
No “interpretation” is needed.
(Manual of Islamic Law, “Reliance of the Traveller”, o8.0, o8.1, o8,4: available as a free download)
duh swami says
The history of Islam started when the Hindu Abraham traveled to Mecca and built the first Kaa;aba in honor of the Hindu goddess Kali…He tried to establish s Kali-phate…The locals misunderstood, they thought he meant Caliphate…The mistake continues to this day…
vivienne Leijonhufvu (@goldaleijonhufv) says
Duh swami, does this ties in with the Vedic scriptures? Very little is taught about the origins of religion within the Indus Valley. Only one program on UK BBC4 has looked at this area, further an excellent video has been made recognizing the origins of the universe as far back as 10,000 years ago. At this time there were as today – centres of learning such as universities. Mathematics originated in the Indus valley not with the Muslims, BBC Jim Khalili Maths Prof. Abraham came from UR an area in the Indus Valley bringing with him monotheism. The many images of Gods in Hindu represent aspects of humanity, for simple minded people to get the message across much like today (the illiterate) are taught through pictures & models. Mecca is extremely old, a circle of representing 365 days of year. Central a stuppa. Kali represents birth life and death, meditation is practiced three times daily one more thing I learned is the following: Satwa = stillness Rajas = activity Tamus = death decay. Mystical Jews also meditate, acknowledge the union of man and woman, dietary laws which before the advent of antibiotics made enormous sense. Vegetarianism is widely practiced in Hindu/Buddhism and if kosher isn’t available also practiced by Jews. Thank you duh swami a logical conclusion to the idiocy pushed out by Mohammed whom we all know stole his fake religion from the Torah, Bible. Paganism took over this ancient site at Mecca or was this another interpretation of the original site?. Worship of Inana/Aphrodite/Venus/Astarte all feminine representatives of birth life and death! The phases of the moon were/are also associated with Goddesses – New moon/waxing crescent = Maiden/Virgin full moon Motherhood/birth, waning moon = old woman crone/death. The moons 28 day cycle syncronises with menses, over a year 13 months broken down into 365 days. Ask any Gynea Doc how many births and miscarriages happen around the full moon? The full moon draws the oceans of earth, Spring tides causing the earth to bulge due to the gravitational pull of the earth and moon.
SteveFinSC says
I’m sorry, Ur is not an area of the Indus Valley. Ur was a city on the south bank of the Euphrates River in present day Iraq. Abraham was called out of Ur by God and told to go out of the city to a place he would show him. That place is Hebron from which the word Hebrew is derived.
Charli Main says
100% correct. Although increasing numbers of archaeologists, now accept that the Indus Valley civilization is significantly older than that of Egypt and the Euphrates River civilization.
vivienne Leijonhufvu (@goldaleijonhufv) says
As Charli Main states archeological evidence shows the Indus Valley civilization ………for all we know Abraham may well have acquired his calling or knowledge of G-d from the ancient Vedic Scriptures written before the Torah. Like the Torah the Vedic Scriptures are full of wisdom – stories are used to illustrate aspects of good and bad human ethics.
Kepha says
I’m sorry, but there isn’t the slightest evidence that Abram, later Abraham, ever believed in the Vedic gods, nor is there any that he ever went to Mecca. Some have taken the Islamic practice of perambulations as evidence of Hindu-Buddhist influence, but it has nothing to do with Abraham.
vivienne Leijonhufvu (@goldaleijonhufv) says
Some time ago I corresponded with a Rabbi who had studied comparative religions. I asked about the Vedic Scriptures. He knew of them and acknowledged my question regarding the scriptures. The Scriptures are rare and I believe there are few copies. Vedic Scriptures have nothing to do with Islam. There were not Vedic Gods but a calendar. As far away as South America there still remains of a 2,500 year old stone calendar comprising of 13 towers ergo there are thirteen months in a Lunar year and the seasons in the Southern Hemisphere are the reverse to those in the Northern Hemisphere. This ancient civilization acknowledged to procession of the sun through out the year. You cannot disprove Abraham’s origins and as Charli points out ancient UR was part of an already ancient civilization. The way scriptures are written has to do with time frames in which they were written. I am not discounting Judaism I am a Jewess but we must always maintain an open mind and further back in history we go the closer to the truth we become. Look at the wonderful archeological evidence that has been found to prove the origins of Israel Judah and Samaria – King David’s palace etc etc.
gravenimage says
I think Duh Swami is being ironic.
Sam Hawkins says
I have read about these conversions before. Apparently, all or nearly all converts to Christianity from Islam are Iranians (or Farsi-speaking Afghans). Nowhere do Muslim Arabs seem to be converting in appreciable numbers.
What if it isn’t Islam that has made Arabs what they are, but Arabs were always like they are today and Islam was invented by them to give an institutional framework to their propensity towards rapine and murder?
mortimer says
Islam is predicated on the Arab honor culture. ‘Honor’ (though in fact a fantasy) is real in the minds of Muslims. They believe ‘honor’ can be stolen and so the emphasis in Islam on humiliating ‘the other’.
Islamic history is a series of psychodramas involving ‘honor’ and ‘shame’ as they unhealthily understand those concepts.
The Arabs who convert to Christianity are secretive. Fr Zakaria Botros has known many secret Christians in Arabia, including mullahs and sheikhs. He encourages them to remain secret.
Westman says
Sam,
That is a valid question that is avoided like a plague since it will always receive cries of racism for even considering it.
The uber-liberal mind will brag about the measurement of its own high intelligence, admiring its body in a mirror, yet will cry foul at the least suggestion that there may be ethnic groups that fall into a lower(or higher) average IQ. It seems to be a requirement that the liberal mind is able to hold contradictions as equal beliefs. It will loudly demand that all ethnicities have equal value, moral relativism, and genetic equivalency. It will reject the obvious conclusion that, since our appearance and behavior vary from Bonobos and Chimps by only 1% of our genetic makeup, there must be notable differences existing in human ethnicities that are influenced by very small isolated regional genetics.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/tiny-genetic-differences-between-humans-and-other-primates-pervade-the-genome/
That Islam was accepted because it fit the Arab ethnicity of Muhammad’s time is a valid conjecture yet unprovable because we cannot go back in time to measure it. It fits logically into a time where resources were limited, infanticide of females was common, and above average wealth could only be achieved by forcibly taking it from a zero-sum economic pie.
For now, the nature-nurture debate continues as we learn more about genetic influence on behavior.
chanah says
yes you are right mostly muslims from Iran and Afghanistan convert to Christianity because it were predicted in the book of Jeremiah 100 of yrs ago
Jeremiah 49
35 Thus saith Jehovah of hosts: Behold, I will break the bow of Elam, the chief of their might. 36 And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven, and will scatter them toward all those winds; and there shall be no nation whither [p]the outcasts of Elam shall not come. 37 And I will cause Elam to be dismayed before their enemies, and before them that seek their life; and I will bring evil upon them, even my fierce anger, saith Jehovah; and I will send the sword after them, till I have consumed them: 38 and I will set my throne in Elam, and will destroy from thence king and princes, saith Jehovah. 39 But it shall come to pass in the latter days, that I will [q]bring back the captivity of Elam, saith Jehovah.
Elam is a Biblical name for Iran and it’s happening right now, never before have the Iranians been scattered to the 4 corners of the earth
Angemon says
Meaning there’s an unknowable number of them that are faking conversion to fool the naive kuffar – i.e., taqiyah – who, as orthodox islam teaches, are always striving to bring islam down and won’t rest until muslims leave islam.
Nazaret says
By this all harsh opinions you want to terrorize muslims? How much hates on your you comments!!!? Jesus has taught you hates?
What are u conveying, Jesus love or hate? What is your moral values? You are are living in modern world why are you turning minds to medival time?
You killed Jesus.
Sam Hawkins says
Who said anything about wanting to terrorize Muslims?
Charli Main says
Giving Muslims a dose of the same medicine that they have been dishing out to non Muslims for 1400 years, is ” terrorising” the poor darlings.!!!!!
Westman says
Nazaret,
Jesus said: ““Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. …” Matt 7:15-17
This describes Muhammad and his Islam quite accurately. Jesus would not love Muhammad, in fact he would “hate” him for dragging Muslims through a cultural mud of violence and conquest. Please, tell us how Muhammad’s personal life follows Christ’s teachings.
We draw a difference, here, between Islam and Muslims. We hope for a better life for Muslims and for the elimination of an Islam that teaches that only Muslims have value. Most of us have no hate for Muslims. We are, however, appalled and nauseated by much of Islam’s ideology and its degrading of society to less than its potential.
Islam teaches hate for unbelievers, Christians, and Jews.
Communicating that Islam is not fit for the 21st century is hardly terrorizing Muslims. Talk to the Christians, Yadizis, Ahmadis, and Baha’i in the ME and they can tell you who is terrorizing whom.
By the way, I’m an Agnostic, living in the 21st Century. Explain how I killed Jesus?
chanah says
as a matter of fact yes JESUS does hate the profit of islam and as we speak he is suffering in hell with his god and hitler and the rest of his nazi gang
Hope says
Nazaret, most of us here do not hate Muslims. We hate the violent, murderous ideology, ISLAM, for all of the pain and suffering and horror it has caused people all over the world.
Carolyne says
I’m not sure what you actually meant, Nazaret, since obviously English is not your first language. But Arabic is not mine, so we are even.
I didn’t kill Jesus. In fact I haven’t ever killed anyone. I do, however, hate Islam because it makes wild beasts of men. Men with no morals, no compassion, no common sense. It comes, I believe from first-cousin marriage over many centuries until there is a very small brain left to pass along to one’s children.
gravenimage says
Nazaret wrote:
By this all harsh opinions you want to terrorize muslims? How much hates on your you comments!!!? Jesus has taught you hates?
What are u conveying, Jesus love or hate? What is your moral values? You are are living in modern world why are you turning minds to medival time?
You killed Jesus.
………………………..
What utter rot. Jihad Watch chronicles the threat violent Jihad presents *to us*. It is Jihadists terrorizing *us*. No one here has terrorized Muslims, nor ever advocated doing so.
William says
I wonder if the claims that a growing number of Mohammedans are converting to Islam are made to calm our fears and does not reflect reality. I am suspicious of such claims and of those making the claim.
William says
Correction:
…converting to Christianity…
mortimer says
It is secretive.
Magali Marc says
I agree with William. I am very suspicious of these conversions because the Pope and various bishops have praised Islam so much and preached in favour of receiving Muslim refugees.
It would make perfect sense to me that Muslim fugitives would be tempted by Christianity. But I think like a Christian not like a Muslim.
And fake conversions are possible.
Wait and see.
deja vu says
What makes you think that conversions to Christianity are only possible through the actions of the Pope or bishops?
Far from it! Have you never heard of the vast underground church throughout every nation which oppresses Christians? That’s where the conversion are taking place.
The Iranians deeply resent the backward regime in Iran which has destroyed their once-flourishing modern nation, and are seeking something more in their lives than imposed obedience to the 7th century Arab-originated, theocratic political ideology that is Islam. The Pope has nothing to do with it.
mortimer says
Quote: “The history of Islam was completely different from what we were taught at school”
This is the whole point: Since Islam must be defended by lies, then what good is it?
By hiding everything reprehensible about Islam, Muslim apologists in effect prove they already realize that Islam cannot be defended.
desidude2 says
This is the silver lining of mass migration of these refugees. However these people converted to christianity through their own power of belief and disillusionment of islam. But the wets is not doing enough to bring muslims out of islam, they should be glorifying and supporting the apostates of islam instead they are busy supporting the most hardline muslims as well as making it easy for muslims to practice and proselytize their faith among the locals.
Sam says
ISLAM IS NOTHING BUT A BIG LIE
Champ says
Indeed, Sam! …and islam is *wholly* evil! ?
Ali Bey says
who destroyed the Buddas in Afganistan or the sculptures in Palmyra?
LouRich says
Who?? Are you asking or making a point?
Hope says
Perhaps there are many people who would give anything to escape the horrors of Islam, maybe more than we realize. Of course, in islamic countries, death is the penalty for leaving that religion. Once they arrive in Europe, the opportunity to escape presents itself. Maybe these folks are sincere in their conversion to Christianity? Time will tell.
chanah says
yes time will tell
dumbledoresarmy says
Pray.
Pray that they will be led – and encouraged – to read the Gospels.
They need *teaching*. Re-programming, so to speak.
There *are* orthodox firmly-believing Christians in Europe – yes, there *are* – in all three strands, Protestant, Catholic, and Eastern Orthodox. PRAY that these Christians will be active in discipling, teaching, catechising and praying for the ex-Muslims. It was a Syrian Christian, in Sweden, who instructed and baptised ex-Muslim Mona Walters [her Swedish surname is from her native Swedish Christian husband].
Myself, I think the ancient practice of the catechumenate – during which one wishing to be admitted to the Christian community undergoes a longish period of solid instruction and testing *before* being baptised – would be a good idea in these cases. It allows for more time to identify and weed out anyone who is merely ‘faking it’. (There might be things to learn from Jewish practice, here; indeed, Jewish practice – whereby conversion was preceded by a period of careful instruction – probably informed and provided the template for early Christian practice).
Rev Dr Mark Durie has written an excellent little book “Liberty to the Captives” with practical instructions not only on freeing persons who have lived as Dhimmis but *also* on what has to happen for an ex-Muslim to break free from psychological and spiritual bondage. That book could do with being translated into, for example, French, German, Italian, Danish and Swedish, for the use of Christians in those countries who are dealing with 1/ Christian and other refugees who (and whose forebears) have lived as de facto Dhimmis under Muslim oppression and have often suffered severe psychic damage and 2/ ex-Muslims who are either seeking to become Christians, or who have converted, but have Islamic “baggage* they need to identify and get rid of.
LouRich says
Thanks for this!
Les says
“This whitewash of history in general is for the purposes of dawah”. The whitewash are by evil and weak minded people who have either sold their soul to Satan by their direct hatred of Jesus or by people who are so self absorbed that Satan easily controls them like a brain dead zombie. Islam is straight from hell and as Islam loses in the worldwide PR and Trump movement, Satan will get desperate and show his Muslime ass and then Islam will finally implode
gravenimage says
“The history of Islam was completely different from what we were taught at school”
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So true. A very heartening story.