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Toronto: Muslim group gives out book saying “women may enjoy being beaten”

Jun 1, 2016 6:10 pm By Robert Spencer

They better enjoy it, because it is the will of Allah:

“Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because Allah has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them.” (Qur’an 4:34)

Muhammad “struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you?” — Aisha (Sahih Muslim 2127)

Islamic-booth-at-Dundas-Square-3-CIJnews

“Toronto: some ‘women may even enjoy being beaten as a sign of love,’” by Jonathan D. Halevi, CIJ News, May 28, 2016 (thanks to Marvin):

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau espouses a principled policy for the elimination of violence against women. “Violence against women is a violation of the most basic human rights. It destroys lives, tears families apart, impacts entire communities, and has no place within our society,” Trudeau said in a official statement issued on November, 25 2015.

“As leaders, as parents, as community members, we need to make sure we are combating misogyny in all its forms, wherever it is found,” he added. “I urge all Canadians to make a commitment to stopping violence against women and girls… Together, we can create a Canada and a world where all citizens are respected, valued equally, and safe from violence.”…

CIJnews investigation has revealed that a Muslim Dawah (propagating Islam) group operating a booth at Toronto’s Dundas Square continues unopposed to these days to hand out a book condoning wife beating in certain circumstances.

The book “Women in Islam & Refutation of some Common Misconceptions,” authored by the Saudi scholar Dr. Abdul-Rahman al-Sheha and printed by the Saudi Dawah organization Muslim World League (رابطة العالم الاسلامي), was also distributed in 2015 by York MSA female students at the Central Square of York University.

The following are excerpts from the book:

“Polygamy in the Islamic society is limited to four wives only, the marriages being performed lawfully with a proper marriage contract, witnesses, etc. The man must bear all financial burdens and responsibilities to his wives and children that arise from his marriages. All the children are legitimate, who must be raised and cared for under the responsibility of both parents…

“Wife Discipline

Allah, the Exalted, stated in the Glorious Qur’an: “(… As to those women on whose part you see ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next,) refuse to share their beds, (and last,) beat them (lightly, if it is useful). But if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allah is Most High, Most Great.) [4:34]

“Islam forbids beating women and warns strictly against it. The Prophet (Peace be upon Him) never beat any of his wives or servants, as his wife Aishah (may Allah exalt their mention) reported in an authentic tradition (Bukhari #2328). Women are, in general, weaker than men in their physique and stamina. Women are often unable to defend themselves against violence. Although beating of women is generally forbidden, Islam permits the beating of wives in a restricted and limited sense only as a final solution and acceptable valid reason when all else fails. This is analogous to spanking children when all else fails and they must learn a lesson in obedience for their own protection and success.

“In the verse we quoted, Allah deals with the case of a wife who behaves immorally towards her husband’s rights. The treatment of this extremely sensitive issue comes in gradual stages, as we have noticed from the verse. Medicine, or treatment of any ailment, can be very bitter at times. But an ill person will take the remedy gladly and bear the bitterness of the medicine in order to be cured from his illness. The remedy to treat a wife blameworthy of immoral behavior, as we have noticed, comes in three gradual stages:

“1. First stage: The stage of advice, counseling and warning against Allah’s punishment. A husband must remind his wife of the importance of protecting his rights in Islam. This stage is a very kind and easy one. But, if this treatment does not work and proves to be ineffective, then the husband may resort to the next stage.

“2. Second stage: To leave the wife’s bed. Or, if one sleeps in the same bed with her, he will turn his back to her, not touch her, talk to her or have intercourse with her. This stage, as noticed, combines both strictness and kindness, although it is a very harsh practice on both. But, if this treatment does not work, then the husband may resort to the final stage of discipline explained below.

“3. Third and final stage: Beating without hurting, breaking a bone, leaving black or blue marks on the body, and avoiding hitting the face or especially sensitive places at any cost. The purpose of beating her is only to discipline and never retaliation or with desire to hurt by any means. Islam forbids severe beating as punishment.

“The Prophet (Peace be upon Him) said: “None of you should beat his wife like a slave-beating and then have intercourse with her at the end of the day”. [Bukhari #4908]

“This treatment is proved to be very effective with two types of women, as psychologists have determined:

“The first type: Strong willed, demanding and commandeering women. These are the type of women who like to control, master and run the affairs of their husbands by pushing them around, commanding them and giving them orders.

“The second type: Submissive or subdued women. These women may even enjoy being beaten at times as a sign of love and concern…

“Beating, according to the Islamic teachings, is listed as the last and final stage of disciplining methods. Islam does not permit, allow or even condone beating unless the first two stages are proven to be ineffective. Moreover, beating must not be employed as a remedy, if a wife prefers to be divorced….

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  1. Mike Ramirez says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 6:16 pm

    More American women and men need to take this problem seriously and not think that this could never happen in America. The time is coming that the streets of our cities will be filled with increased violence, lootings, beatings, rapes and murders through the out-of-control clash of civilizations – just like what is being witnessed in Europe and The Netherlands. Stand ready; Stand firm; Stand guard.

    • Huck Folder says

      Jun 1, 2016 at 8:20 pm

      “Although beating of women
      is generally forbidden,
      Islam permits the beating of wives”

      Methinks, a mere woman
      is less than a mere chattel wife

      “Islam forbids beating women
      and warns strictly against it.”

      Square that with the Taliban and
      Soddi Barbarian religious fascist police.

      “A HUSBAND must remind HIS wife
      of the importance of protecting
      HIS [chattel] rights in Islam.”

      “Moreover, beating must not be
      employed as a remedy,
      if a wife PREFERS to be divorced….”
      [In front of an fascist/androcentric sharia ‘court’]

      More BLACKMAIL from the ‘cosa nostra’
      “Religion of Peace™”
      ‘Back in the day’, a divorce was probably
      equivalent to a death sentence;
      ergo: beatings could be pretty severe

      “The Prophet (Peace be upon Him) said:
      “None of you should beat his wife
      like a slave-beating and
      then have intercourse with her
      at the end of the day”. [Bukhari #4908]”

      Says a lot about treatment of slaves, nu?

      And where is Canada hating ‘Canadian’
      Professor Sunera Thobani in all this?

      Crickets!

      • Bamaguje says

        Jun 2, 2016 at 9:51 am

        The most incriminating idiocy in the misogynistic Islamist propaganda – “Islam permits the beating of wives… This is analogous to spanking children.”

        So Muslim wives are not adults in a consensual relationship. They are children who can be spanked.
        What more, good submissive Muslim wives are masochists who enjoy being beaten.

    • Myrtle Linder says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 1:28 pm

      The hell you say, there was once a man who thought he would beat me, he never tried it again!!!

      • Mike Ramirez says

        Jun 2, 2016 at 3:04 pm

        Good for you, Myrtle, however, there are reports of women, particularly in Sweden and in Germany, who are brutally assaulted not by just one man but by a gang of “refugees” just because of their western attire. Some refugees even think they have the right to do whatever they desire to the “infidel women” in the host country.

  2. Resist says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 6:19 pm

    Morons….iSSlam is perfect for sadistic machos with no brains and masochist women

    • Huck Folder says

      Jun 1, 2016 at 7:40 pm

      B-b-but, do I hear you inf-f-fering
      that moham-ham-hamedanism
      is sadomasochistic?

      B-b-but that is
      isla-la-lamophobic.

      RANDY, R-r-randy!
      Where are you lass?

      • Westman says

        Jun 2, 2016 at 2:30 am

        Gosh, yes, where is Randy?

        Perhaps he could rant about slavery and then we could remind him that Muslims were on the supply side of slavery.

        And the “prophet” was tolerant of severe slave-beating – “None of you should beat his wife like a slave-beating….”, and he beat his little wife on the chest, declaring the stroke was justice from Allah, himself – Muhammad “struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you?” — Aisha (Sahih Muslim 2127)

        There are so many conflicting stories about the dual vicious-fatherly aspects of Muhammad’s character that most should be considered apocryphal. He certainly was a warlord who claimed divine association. Does anyone want him for a neighbor?

    • Kathy Brown, Esq. says

      Jun 1, 2016 at 10:38 pm

      ‘Women may enjoy being beaten a a sign of love’? Seriously?

      And maybe YOU, you pathetic muslim ‘man’, may enjoy having your head blown off by a [legal] gun-totin’ Western woman, should you ever try that sharia s_ _t on US?

      Give it a try sometime. I’m betting you won’t try twice.

      • particolor says

        Jun 2, 2016 at 3:23 am

        I wonder if Muslem Men would Enjoy being Bashed Shitless ? I know a lot of blokes in Australia what would be Very Happy to Oblige !! 🙂

      • Bhai says

        Jun 2, 2016 at 4:14 am

        You two women, Kathy Brown and particolor is exactly the type of women that ayat 4.34 is aimed at exposing, truly Allah t’allah is all seeing..

        Bossy, rude, of violent intent and thinks you are the equal of men when….

        The Quaran *tells* and enlightens us all that this is not so. Women can never be the equal of men and so *must* know their place or *get* to know their place.

        The West is wrong in breeding this type of attitude in women; who need to be fuzzy, warm, round and provide the accommodation in bed. I know that many Western men are fed up of your attitudes too.

        Kathy in particular, please (I am enacting the 1st part of the ayat), I beg of you to change, show more love to the (muslim) man, in the future many women like you will be requiring their cooperation in these matters, please listen.

        Top Tip:
        Women, please listen and cooperate with your man before things get to Ayat 4.34 part 3.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 7, 2016 at 9:31 pm

          The repulsive Mohammedan Bhai wrote:

          You two women, Kathy Brown and particolor is exactly the type of women that ayat 4.34 is aimed at exposing, truly Allah t’allah is all seeing..

          Bossy, rude, of violent intent and thinks you are the equal of men when….
          ……………………………..

          Not that to a Muslim daring to defend your self is “of violent intent”, but beating you wife (wives) is sacralized.

          More:

          The Quaran *tells* and enlightens us all that this is not so. Women can never be the equal of men and so *must* know their place or *get* to know their place.
          ……………………………..

          If a woman dares to consider herself a free human being, Muslims will beat her into submission. *This* is Islam in action. *Ugh*.

          More:

          The West is wrong in breeding this type of attitude in women; who need to be fuzzy, warm, round and provide the accommodation in bed. I know that many Western men are fed up of your attitudes too.
          ……………………………..

          The idea that civilized Western men want to beat women just like barbaric Muslim is utter bs.

          More:

          Kathy in particular, please (I am enacting the 1st part of the ayat), I beg of you to change, show more love to the (muslim) man, in the future many women like you will be requiring their cooperation in these matters, please listen.
          ……………………………..

          In other words, if you are not forced to “marry” a Muslim, you may wind up a sex slave. Learn to submit now, or face beatings or murder.

          More:

          Top Tip:
          Women, please listen and cooperate with your man before things get to Ayat 4.34 part 3.
          ……………………………..

          More threats from violent, barbarian Muslims. *Ugh*.

          This is what we civilized Infidels are facing.

          By the way, this creep’s username means “brother” in Urdu.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 7, 2016 at 9:35 pm

          I think Bhai is the same creep who was posting here a couple of months ago as Bada Bhai.

          Last I saw him, he was sneering at Christians on the “Uganda: Muslim screaming “Allahu akbar” tries to kill wife for leaving Islam” thread.

          Not surprisingly, another story with a Muslim brutalizing his wife.

        • Kathy Brown, Esq. says

          Jun 7, 2016 at 10:11 pm

          Bhai: You know, you’re right. C’mon over to my house some evening. I’ll cook you dinner and even serve you.

          Then when you try to rape me I’ll blow your head off.

          Am I ‘showing [enough] love to the muslim man’ Bhai Baby? Please say yes!

      • Dean says

        Jun 2, 2016 at 1:21 pm

        This may be coming out of the mouths of the abused women. Isn’t it textbook for abused women rationalizing the abuse to explain that the abuser must love and care for her otherwise he wouldn’t get angry with her. An even more uncomfortable condition found in the dynamics is the woman who pulls his trigger to get some emotional response to him. My remarks are not about this codification of tribal rules parading as a religion but about what it should reveal to those informed about spousal abuse if they actually care about this problem. Like all leftist the leading femlib advocates are only using the issues to achieve their own power over western men and society so Muslims get a pass.

  3. Rosewood11 says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 6:29 pm

    “Toronto: some ‘women may even enjoy being beaten as a sign of love,’”
    –Jonathan D. Halevi,

    Really, darlin’??? In the words of my mother, “Don’t ever go to sleep in this house!!!” because you, sir, are the reason God made iron skillets!!!

    • Ima Freeman says

      Jun 1, 2016 at 7:33 pm

      Jonathan D. Halevi WROTE the article, but does not espouse those despicable commandments from the Koran. He is a Jew and former mosad agent. I have met him and his character is beyond reproach. Please make sure about which you are speaking before putting it in writing.

      Ima

      • mortimer says

        Jun 1, 2016 at 10:39 pm

        ‘Rosewood’ has misread the article. Halevi has not endorsed this despicable practice by writing about it. Lt Col Halevi was quoting that despicable phrase from authentic Muslim document so that we might be alerted to the violent misogyny being spread on the streets of North America. His point was that these statements accurately reflect Islamic teaching.

        ‘Rosewood’ should realize no rabbi can be found today to support wife beating, but every mullah MUST support wife beating because it is in sharia law.

        Halevi is the best writer on Islam and jihad in Canada.

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 1, 2016 at 11:47 pm

        True, Mortimer and Ima. Jonathan Halevi is *exposing* this viciousness.

        Here’s some more excellent stuff from Halevi, much of regarding the threat of Islam:

        http://www.therebel.media/jonathan_d_halevi

        This is probably the most salient article of his, re the above:

        “Canadian female convert to Islam: Wife should know her place; husband is the only leader”

        http://www.therebel.media/canadian_female_convert_to_islam_wife_should_know_her_place_husband_is_the_only_leader

        • Cecilia Ellis says

          Jun 2, 2016 at 12:15 am

          Graven, thanks for posting a link to Jonathan Halevi’s website. I just checked it out and really like it.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 2, 2016 at 12:02 pm

          Yes, Cecilia–most of his stuff is excellent.

      • Kathy Brown, Esq. says

        Jun 7, 2016 at 10:19 pm

        Ima, thank you so much for enlightening me as to this man. See: That’s why I love this site. We all learn so much here!

        About the only ‘good’ thing you can say about islam is, it has succeeded in uniting the West as nothing else could. Against islam I mean…

        I love ‘meeting’ our Canadian brothers and sisters here. AND the Brits, and the Aussies, and all the others.

        We are all of one mind here: Death before islam.

    • Greyhound Fancier says

      Jun 1, 2016 at 10:38 pm

      I think I’d prefer #2 on the list, having the guy leave my bed or just plain leave me alone. Some of those Islamic guys are plain scary – and may have the hygiene of a goat.

      I bet though if the guy thought I was pleased to be left alone, then it would be on to the beating.

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 1, 2016 at 11:48 pm

        But it never stops there, GF–it goes on to beatings and then often to “Honor Killing”.

      • Peggy says

        Jun 2, 2016 at 12:03 am

        If only she can stay on No.2 forever.
        Maybe she can make a deal and say if you leve me alone I will leave you alone.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 2, 2016 at 12:06 pm

          Alas, that is not how Islam works.

      • Dean says

        Jun 2, 2016 at 1:34 pm

        Or what he might be carrying on him something from the goat. But i have suspected that the radical Muslim female jihadist may actually be suffering from the battered woman complex and this could be coming from their mouths also as in rationalizing that he must care for me or he wouldn’t get angry with me. I am not applying it to all of the female nihilist but another possibility that being reborn as one of the virgins in the afterlife is so much better than the hell of this abused life. Leaving him would be preferable but there are nice moments that a woman could resort to the final self-defense option.

  4. Jaladhi says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 7:50 pm

    And where are the women’s lib women protesting – or they want to import sharia wife baeing custom into Western societies. Problem solved!! LOL… Such a hypocrite bunch the western women’s lib is !

    • Mike Ramirez says

      Jun 1, 2016 at 9:01 pm

      I’ve been wondering the same thing for quite a while about where the “Women’s Rights” groups are hiding in regard to how women are treated in Islam. Muslim women are in fear for their own lives if they speak out about the domestic violence they incur at the hands of their husbands and as sanctioned by Sharia law. Young Muslim women who date a non-Muslim are targets for being murdered through “honor killings” by members of their own family. Women are second class citizens in the Islamic culture and this is what may be going on right now in the tight-knit Islamic communities here in the United States. It is possible that even the mainstream media is turning a blind eye to the plight that Muslim women are subjected to under the rule of Islamic law.

      • Jaladhi says

        Jun 2, 2016 at 5:43 am

        ^he disgusting, lying,and hypocrite media of ours will never discuss women’s rights in Muslim societies in the name of political correctness. For the all cultures are same – women’s rights be damned. But if this happen in any other “religious”/non-religious group and the media and NOW will hound them to death!

        Muslims re a no go zone for all these groups!!

    • Dean says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 1:36 pm

      Or what he might be carrying on him something from the goat. But i have suspected that the radical Muslim female jihadist may actually be suffering from the battered woman complex and this could be coming from their mouths also as in rationalizing that he must care for me or he wouldn’t get angry with me. I am not applying it to all of the female nihilist but another possibility that being reborn as one of the virgins in the afterlife is so much better than the hell of this abused life. Leaving him would be preferable but there are nice moments that a woman could resort to the final self-defense option.

    • Dean says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 1:41 pm

      The femlibbers don’t really care about these issues except to achieve power over men and social status so Muslims get a pass. And it is a two sided problem because not only do the abuser rationalize that she must like it because she doesn’t leave but the abused frequently rationalize the abuse with he wouldn’t get angry if he didn’t love and care for me.

  5. Philip Mann says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 7:52 pm

    And Muslim men like having sex with goats and with little boys!

    • Anne Smith says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 4:32 am

      And they particularly enjoy sex and sadism with under-age English girls in Rotherham and countless other towns throughout UK, with the full connivance of the political establishments who dare not speak out against it in case they are accused of Islamophobia or racism, or are afraid of losing the Muslim block postal votes which keep them in power.
      Over 1400 young girls were abused over a period of many years and only now is something finally being done about it, in a very feeble way. Half a dozen men have been sent to jail but there are many more walking free on the streets today and the politicians do not want to upset the Muslim community. They don’t give a damn about the indigenous English people.

  6. Angemon says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 7:52 pm

    http://drrichswier.com/wp-content/uploads/liberal-logis-gays-mulim-islamophobia-graphic.png

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 12:07 pm

      Grimly hilarious cartoon.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 12:15 pm

      More good stuff from Dixon Diaz:

      https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/06/a7/76/06a7768d782b8292bf8cd71ac2473881.jpg

  7. Guest says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 8:09 pm

    I wish the Earth would open and swallow them all.

    • mortimer says

      Jun 1, 2016 at 8:48 pm

      Start talking to them and dissuading them.

      I suggest handing the following list to proselytizing Muslims and asking them for justifications.

      List of Disturbing Things about Islam that Trouble Modern People: …enslavement; no Golden Rule; no free speech; no democracy; jihad – holy war of supremacism; honor killings; taqiyya – sacred lying; taqlid – group think; misogyny – repression of women; rape of kafirs as jihad; genocide; ethnic cleansing; al-walaa wal-baraa – Islamic apartheid; torture; plundering; cruel and unusual punishments; stagnation and backwardness; violence against women; discriminatory Sharia law; hatred of the arts; pedophilia disguised as child marriage; fifty generations of cousin marriage and genetic defects; cruelty to animals; extortion tax to humiliate disbelievers; no historic basis; anti-intellectual obscurantism; FGM; Arab racism; theocratic totalitarianism; vigilantism.

      Ask the proselytizing Muslims to persuade you point by point that Islam can be reconciled with the modern world. It will be found they will have to give up the attempt after one or two points. Each point is well-supported in Sharia law and Islamic history.

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 1, 2016 at 11:55 pm

        Mortimer wrote:

        Start talking to them and dissuading them.

        I suggest handing the following list to proselytizing Muslims and asking them for justifications.

        List of Disturbing Things about Islam that Trouble Modern People: …enslavement; no Golden Rule; no free speech; no democracy; jihad – holy war of supremacism…

        Ask the proselytizing Muslims to persuade you point by point that Islam can be reconciled with the modern world…
        ………………………

        Mortimer, I tried this some years ago with “WhyIslam?” Da’wa artists who had set up a table in a subway station.

        Of course, they just told me that the modern world was wrong and needed to be changed–by violence, if need be–to conform to Shari’ah law.

        Your idea that this challenge will somehow give proselytizers pause is, I’m afraid,quite mistaken.

        • Peggy says

          Jun 2, 2016 at 8:10 pm

          You were lucky you didn’t get killed because your actions could’ve been interpreted as you trying to convert them.
          It’s a risky business discussing antyhing with them.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 6, 2016 at 3:34 pm

          This was in a public place, Peggy–and they were trying to convert *me*, so I was fairly safe. I tried to be very careful with how I handled things, though–even a few years ago I realized how dangerous Islam is.

      • Jay Boo says

        Jun 2, 2016 at 2:16 am

        Mortimer
        in reference to:
        “Start talking to them and dissuading them.”
        I say Ha! Ha!
        Thanks for the laugh.

        You obviously have never around a bulgy eyed Muslim percolating at full temper tantrum steam.

      • Champ says

        Jun 2, 2016 at 8:15 pm

        mortimer wrote:

        Start talking to them and dissuading them.

        I suggest handing the following list to proselytizing Muslims and asking them for justifications.

        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        Is this what YOU do, mortimer? Apparently!

        Please inform us of your success–or lack thereof–with this particular method. Thank you.

        I await your reply …

  8. Zimriel says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 9:14 pm

    If you want to read the text of this book, http://womeninislam.ws/en/misconceptions.aspx.

    • Cecilia Ellis says

      Jun 1, 2016 at 11:02 pm

      Zimriel, I took a few minutes to check out the text at the link you provided. My disgust meter just pegged . . . ☹️

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 1:09 pm

      Yeah–this is the text cited in the story above.

      It contradicts itself. In the very first sentence under “Wife Discipline” it says “Islam forbids beating women and warns strictly against it”. But in the very same passage it says, “Third and final stage: Beating without hurting, breaking a bone, leaving black or blue marks on the body, and avoiding hitting the face or especially sensitive places at any cost. The purpose of beating her is only to discipline…”.

      So–beating is forbidden; except that it isn’t. It is, in fact, prescribed.

      Notice, too, that Islam only understands domination and submission. Of these two “types”, there is no third–a woman who is equal to her husband. Islam cannot even conceive of such a thing.

      And this is not just true of marriage, but of virtually all relationships. If Infidels are not under the brutal heel of Islam, then they must perforce somehow be dominating Muslims.

      It also blames “Honor Killing” on secular laws. How is that possible? Because if the state won’t murder a woman for you, then the individual Muslim must take the law into his own hands:

      “The unfortunate reality is that because secular laws are in place in these countries, and because politicians appease tribal and other leaders for political advantages, these unjust customs are allowed to continue. If the Islamic laws were established and executed, the severe punishments for fornication, adultery, murder, etc, would satisfy the Muslim population; that justice has been done, and this would curtail the sense of vengeance that one needs to have recourse to.”

      http://womeninislam.ws/en/misconceptions_honor-killings.aspx

      God, I hate Islam.

      • Peggy says

        Jun 2, 2016 at 8:11 pm

        Beating without hurting, breaking a bone, leaving black or blue marks on the body, and avoiding hitting the face or especially sensitive places at any cost.
        ===============================
        So the old phone book in the gut is fine. It leaves no marks.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 6, 2016 at 3:37 pm

          Besides, Muslims in practice have no trouble with leaving marks. Aisha herself lamented the suffering of the “believing women”, noting they were often as “green as their veils” with bruises.

  9. mortimer says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 9:17 pm

    Feminist Heresy..! But where are the marching, angry, militant Feminists? Nowhere! Their attitude is that beaten, raped and murdered Muslim women can all go to hell. Western Feminists won’t lift a finger to help them as they have acid poured on them.

    Quote: ““The second type: Submissive or subdued women. These women may even enjoy being beaten at times as a sign of love and concern”.

    Quote: “ENJOY BEING BEATEN…”

    Western Feminists are complicit with their silence and lack of compassion for 500 million suffering women and girls.

    • Nigel GFF says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 6:20 am

      And such a huge resource too. Shame. They make up 50% of us but alas the feminist branch are busy cleaning that ‘glass ceiling’ and checking it for cracks.

  10. Bev McMullan says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 9:45 pm

    I just sent Tory an email and this is a small part of what I said to him….

    I am wondering why you allow a Muslim group (men) to hand out information on wife beating? Why are you condoning this? We live in a society where there is a mutual respect between most men and woman and we are not about to change. We are not a barbaric culture where husbands beat and abuse their wives, mothers and daughters so why in heaven’s name is this allowed on the streets of Toronto? Perhaps women should start handing out information to everyone stating the relationship between men and women in OUR world….would this be appropriate? We could stand beside the Muslims who are giving out their information…won’t this make an impact? Women are appalled this is promoting abuse on females.

  11. bridgette says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 10:20 pm

    Has Trudeau begun lightly beating his wife yet?

    • SBJ says

      Jun 1, 2016 at 10:47 pm

      lol

    • Western Canadian says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 12:36 am

      I believe that should be has he STOPPED beating her yet…..

  12. John Marst says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 10:38 pm

    “Although beating of women is generally forbidden, Islam permits the beating of wives in a restricted and limited sense only as a final solution and acceptable valid reason when all else fails.”

    The use of the term “final solution” when talking about beating the hell out of one’s wife is especially interesting. Taking a rubber hose to another person is perfectly acceptable when compliance can’t be coerced by other means. Perhaps a swastika would be a nice personal ornament for male Muslim true believers to add to their clothing. Moreover, as a physical symbol of the rampant Jew-hatred that exists in the Islamic world, a swastika could do double duty.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 1, 2016 at 11:56 pm

      True. Although Muslims hate Infidels, many of them openly admire Hitler, and laud the Holocaust and vow to finish it.

  13. mortimer says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 10:48 pm

    The point of the book “Women in Islam & Refutation of some Common Misconceptions,” authored by the Saudi scholar Dr. Abdul-Rahman al-Sheha seems to be that Dr. al-Sheha has opinions that differ from Sharia law.

    Sheikh al-Sheha’s opinion is that he can disagree with Sharia law’s permission to beat women into submission for the purpose of tricking modern people with DISINFORMATION ABOUT ISLAM so that Islam appears better than it is in reality.

    In reality, Islam of ‘The Consensus’ is very misogynistic.

  14. mortimer says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 10:48 pm

    The point of the book “Women in Islam & Refutation of some Common Misconceptions,” authored by the Saudi scholar Dr. Abdul-Rahman al-Sheha seems to be that Dr. al-Sheha has opinions that differ from Sharia law.

    Sheikh al-Sheha’s opinion is that he can disagree with Sharia law’s permission to beat women into submission for the purpose of tricking modern people with DISINFORMATION ABOUT ISLAM so that Islam appears better than it is in reality.

    In reality, Islam of ‘The Consensus’ is very misogynistic. Women are slaves in Islam for time and eternity.

  15. gravenimage says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 11:18 pm

    Toronto: Muslim group gives out book saying “women may enjoy being beaten”
    ………………………

    Wouldn’t that rather defeat the purpose, since beating is punishment for her husband having suspected her of disobedience?

    Note, also, that these thugs confirm that even submissive women will be beaten under Islam–no amount of submission is sufficient for them to escape it.

    God, I hate Islam.

  16. Peggy says

    Jun 1, 2016 at 11:27 pm

    May enjoy beating? Are they giving them permission to enjoy it or they might enjoy a beating?
    If they are giving them permission to enjoy it, how progressive of them. Now the women are allowed kinky sex too.
    I don’t think that even sarcasm is enough to show my hatred for these demons.

    • Kathy Brown, Esq. says

      Jun 1, 2016 at 11:32 pm

      I know that feeling Peg. And I’m betting, so do all here.

      It’s not enough they butcher, rape, torture, amputate and kill every living thing in their wake (including helpless dumb animals). No: They’re so demonic they actually try to force us to clam up about it!”

      We need Pres. Trump in the WH to BOMB them into oblivion. Oh-and the ’72 Virgins’ thing? Sorry muslims-just another lie from prophet mo-ham (pee be upon him).

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 1, 2016 at 11:59 pm

      Peggy and Kathy, I often feel that there are no words strong enough to properly convey my utter abhorrence of Islam.

      • Peggy says

        Jun 2, 2016 at 12:12 am

        I actually feel sick when I think of it. Cannot for the life of me understand how non Muslim women can stand being touched by these savages. Some of our women are not only willing to be touched by them but they forsake Jesus for the “privilege”.
        I see them as disgusting, filthy and so contaminated that no money could entice me to agree to share a bed with one of them.
        Sometimes I fear that I go too far. You don’t have to answer this but if you do answer let me know if your feelings of revoltion towards them extend as far as mine.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 2, 2016 at 1:33 pm

          Yes, I’m revolted. That anyone can actually understand anything at all about Islam and then convert to it is appalling.

        • Heather says

          Jun 2, 2016 at 3:06 pm

          Mine do. I am repulsed by them for what they believe in and the stupidity of their looks. The women disgust me too with their covering of what G-d gave them.

      • linnte says

        Jun 2, 2016 at 12:24 am

        That’s my predicament too. Satanic comes to mind, but even that is not putrid enough!

  17. CrossWare says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 12:09 am

    I think unfortunately they are onto something. It seems like a whole generation of bored leftist women out there whom lost their mind on account of the too good life and they are willing to allow anything. Example those are the young woman who overwhelmingly voted on a green President in Austria despite the fact that rape and violence is now a daily event there. These are a feminist woman in Sweden and France who dresses up in hijab to show their support for Islam. Brainless morons of course whom following their most basic biological urges and seek out the perceived strongest male which is a violent Muslim in a western society. They eradicated strength and confidence in the European man with third wave feminism (so man there now protest in mini skirts). Usually they say man is thinking with his dick and not his brain. For women this is just as true just with its proper counter organ or even more so…
    Disclaimer: Before any feminist or PC man writes me an angry response I am a woman (a gay one but still).

    • Mubarak says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 5:43 am

      Here are some questions far away from PC:
      Would you go as far as to say that the West by its own culture needs, deserves and attracts Islam? Maybe as an ironic divine retribution or chastisement because we have forsaken and even thrown filth at our Jewish-Christian heritage?
      – To whom much is given much will be required! –

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 2, 2016 at 1:50 pm

        The repulsive Mubarak wrote:

        Here are some questions far away from PC:
        Would you go as far as to say that the West by its own culture needs, deserves and attracts Islam? Maybe as an ironic divine retribution or chastisement because we have forsaken and even thrown filth at our Jewish-Christian heritage?
        – To whom much is given much will be required! –
        …………………………………….

        The repellent Mubarak is back, insisting that the West not only deserves Islam but *needs* it.

        Mubarak first flogged this after the Muslim mass rapes of European women on New Year’s Eve–that they deserved it for daring to go out to celebrate.

        He went on to say that the Pope should welcome Muslim rapists so that we could “atone” for our supposed sins at the hands of his foul coreligionists.

        Further, his implication is that Islam is only attacking the West because it is so decadent. But this is, of course, utter bullshit. Muslims attack Infidels everywhere–including those who are socially conservative.

        Then–laughably–he is still talking about “our” Jewish-Christian heritage–as if he were not counseling that we roll over for the Muslim invasion of Europe.

        Lots more from the appalling Mubarak on this thread, including links to previous ugliness from him:

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/05/hugh-fitzgerald-cair-do-nothing-till-you-hear-from-me

        He hates anyone exposing his vicious agenda here.

      • CrossWare says

        Jun 3, 2016 at 12:33 am

        No, Islam deserves the same fate as other evil totalitarian ideologies like fascism and communism: total destruction, we shall wipe it out of existence!

  18. Jay Boo says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 1:59 am

    Muslims enjoy drawings of Muhammad.

    • Champ says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 2:31 am

      Good one, Jay Boo!! 😉

  19. No Fear says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 2:27 am

    Women enjoy the beating? Ha, I am not surprised by that comment.
    I remember an imam saying that beheading unbelievers was a “loving” thing to do to them.

    Islam, more Orwellian than 1984.

  20. G179 says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 2:40 am

    Islam redefines everything. “love” is a euphemisms to violence. “peace” means submission. “justice” means Islamic supremacy. “oppression” means not enough Islamic supremacy. and so on.

  21. LairdKintyre says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 3:14 am

    Also, in the news in Toronto. Justin Trudeau is to be the first Canadian Prime Minister to march in Toronto’s Gay Pride Parade. Afterall, it is 2016.

    So Justin, how is that Muslim voter base working out for you?

    • mortimer says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 11:50 am

      The Muslim voter base worked hard for the Fiberals who played their normal bait-and-switch routine.

  22. Mark A says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 3:20 am

    And the response from feminists to this book being handed out on public streets is……….???

    Still waiting for it…………

    Still can’t hear it………..

  23. Lizzy says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 3:54 am

    In the main muslim women, on marriage, must leave their personalities by the door and become totally submissive to the man who, in many cases, has been chosen for them.

    I speak of the planeloads of young women who are regularly brought into the UK from Islamabad of which I have witnessed. Judging by the sheer numbers of these young women it cannot be possible they know anything about the men to whom they are destined to marry. Many are cousin marriages but the women will not know them.

    It is akin to the breaking in of horses to make them passive and obedient to the master. These women are required to display the personality of a trained flea. When the master says jump the flea jumps.

    We Westerners do not, in the main, view women to be broken in like horses or trained like jumping fleas. Two very different cultures. I don’t give a damn how people go on in their own countries. What I do object to is forcing the indigenous to comply to alien and cruel practises and to drop what we have struggled for over the decades, that being equality and respect between men and women.

  24. Redmond says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 6:39 am

    I sometimes fantasize being in bondage and whipped to submission by a dominatrix. Is there a place in Islam for men like me?

  25. Jay Boo says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 9:35 am

    “women may enjoy being beaten”

    Just as:
    Pork enjoys being eaten.

  26. Jay Boo says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 10:01 am

    The words (FREE) and (ISLAM) don’t belong together.

  27. Jay Boo says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 10:35 am

    Serpent of Satan’s Sales Pitch.

  28. Lioness says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 10:50 am

    I guess the feminists are ok wth that.

    • mortimer says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 11:48 am

      Lioness wrote: “feminists are ok wth that”

      The Feminists obviously agree that MUSLIM women ‘enjoy being beaten’.

      Their silence is complicity! It’s SCANDALOUS and UNCONSCIONABLE.

      If a Jewish or Christian leader wrote ‘women enjoy being beaten by their husbands’ Feminists would crucify him!

  29. aaron morand says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 11:33 am

    I think that if the women of the Islamic religion (?) were to stand up to their men and say No More well,
    yes some would die, but what of their children, the females who Might be spared the same treatment
    presently experienced by muslim women……are there Walmarts in the Middle East?…put a few of
    those in and the women might get a new concept of feminisim…shopping has a way of totally confusing
    the male gender…..most men still have the cave man approach to shopping….here woman, I just killed
    this,,,now prepare it for me…..it took me about 50 years to understand the diff between shopping and
    SSSHHHHOOOOPPPPPING……that the muslim male is allowed to beat a woman is as COWARDLY
    as it gets…..it seems to me that muslim males only go after other muslim males when they have a crowd
    to help in the attack/beating down….Cowardly/craven like coyotes and hyenas these muslim…ehh?

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 2, 2016 at 1:54 pm

      Unfortunately, there are many Muslim women who defend this Islamic savagery.

      • Mike Ramirez says

        Jun 2, 2016 at 2:49 pm

        Quote: gravenimage says June 2, 2016 at 1:54 pm
        “Unfortunately, there are many Muslim women who defend this Islamic savagery.”

        It’s very likely that they have no other choice but to defend their way of life under the rule of Islam. Intense indoctrination into how they are to believe about their “status” in Islam plus the fear of what will happen if they speak out against their faith is a very effective way of leading to silence.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 6, 2016 at 4:50 pm

          This is true for some–but many Muslimahs, alas, are just as fanatical about Islam as are their male counterparts.

  30. native jo says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 12:00 pm

    Mohammed loves Islam joke and posing for selfies. He wants more portrait done of him.

  31. R says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 12:46 pm

    Only in this ass backwards religion could you say that something is forbidden and then condone it in the very same sentence.

  32. Heather says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 3:00 pm

    These muslim (or as I call them: satan’s little helpers) so-called men need a darn good smack to teach them some respect and manners. Islam is only a cult to join for the sadist/masochist types. I think all muslim so-called males are homosexuals, hence the sickness in their brain. They all belong in an asylum for the insane because that is what they are.

  33. Dan Jones says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 3:13 pm

    Followers of the Pedophile Mo-ham-is-mad are insane like he was…

    More End Time News At:
    http://www.shininginthedark.com/?page_id=9570

  34. abad says

    Jun 2, 2016 at 7:46 pm

    Really?

    I’d have a stand with a book titled “Some women like to kick Muslim males when it hurts them the most” but since Muslim males (they are NOT men!) don’t have any nuts that would be futile.

  35. Kathy Brown, Esq. says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 12:36 am

    Mubarak badly needs a huge shot of Thorazine, a strait jacket, and a padded cell.

    Of course he’d probably enjoy it. But still.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 7, 2016 at 10:02 pm

      Ha!

  36. Baconator says

    Jun 3, 2016 at 12:53 am

    I’m writing a book on how innocent bystanders love being blown into smithereens by Islamic suicide bombers.

  37. Jaem says

    Jun 5, 2016 at 3:05 am

    So now Canadians are allowing the support of domestic abuse and “how to” pamphlets given out in public. The police should have shut that down immediately. What’s next, handing out how to pamphlets on how to attack Jews and Christians? Ridiculous that these hate mongers got a public spot to spread their love for violence against women. .

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