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UK: Police commissioner blocks gay sauna’s license to avoid offending Muslims

Jun 5, 2016 4:51 pm By Robert Spencer

Police and Crime Commissioner Kathryn Holloway opposed the sauna’s application for an entertainment license at the behest of a member of a “very significant Luton mosque.” She noted that the application had caused “widespread offence and very deep concern,” and warned that if Greenhouse were given the license, “a number of potential policing issues may arise.”

What kind of “potential policing issues”? Gays attacking the mosque? No way. Muslims attacking gays and the sauna? Certainly. So this is not just a bow to Islamic sensibilities, and a reinforcement of the idea that wherever Islamic practices and Western practices conflict, Western practices must give way; it is also a bow to the threat of violence by Muslims, and a validation that terrorism works. If Muslims might cause “potential policing issues” over this gay sauna selling things to which Muslims object, then the sauna simply must not sell them. Muslims and Islam must always and everywhere be accommodated in their demands.

The Greenhouse

“Gay sauna’s bid for sex entertainment licence prompts ‘homophobia and hate,’” by Adam Parris-Long, Luton Today, May 26, 2016 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

A gay sauna’s bid to gain a sex establishment licence provoked a groundswell of “homophobic and hateful” comments, the Herald & Post can exclusively reveal.

Greenhouse Health Club, which has been running for more than 18 years, attempted to gain the licence so that it can sell sex toys and show adult films within its premises on Crawley Road, Luton.

But after more than 430 Bury Park residents signed a petition to counter the proposal the sauna decided to withdraw its application.

One of those who signed the petition claimed that Greenhouse “will bring unpleasant diseases to our communities”, while another slammed the owner for having “no shame” and attempting to expand the business with something “so disgusting near and around holy surroundings.”

Others labelled the sauna “immoral”, “crazy” and “dangerous for our children”.

One of the petition’s signatories wrote that homosexuality stems from “brain diseases/malfunction” and “incorrect thinking”.

The comments have been denounced by LGBT rights charity Stonewall, which told the Herald & Post that the language used is “homophobic and hateful”.

A spokesperson said: “These attitudes can be extremely damaging and can alienate and ostracise people.

“We hope that this is something that the local authorities in Luton hope to solve as soon as possible so that all LGBT locals feel able to be themselves and are accepted without exception.”

Luton Borough Council says that in addition to the petition, it received 103 objection notices which cited concerns over “cultural sensitivity”, the sauna’s “proximity to places of worship” and worries “about the number of families with young children living nearby”.

Prior to the withdrawal of the application Beds Police told LBC that it had no objections to the proposal and that in the last year just two crimes have been reported at the sauna….

One of those who lobbied LBC to reject the application is newly elected police and crime commissioner Kathryn Holloway, who wrote to the council on March 28 after being approached by a member of a “very significant Luton mosque”.

Mrs Holloway wrote: “Luton Borough Council is usually particularly aware of matters of cultural sensitivity.

“I trust therefore that you will fully understand that, given the large and devout Muslim population in this area of the borough, there is naturally a high level of religious and cultural opposition to such a business among these residents which needs to be respected, in my view.”

The PCC, who said that the application had caused “widespread offence and very deep concern”, added her concerns that if Greenhouse was handed the licence “a number of potential policing issues may arise”.

Speaking to the Herald & Post, Mrs Holloway asserted that she did not know Greenhouse had been targeted with homophobic comments.

The PCC said: “I would never support any homophobic literature and I had no sight of any such material.

“I agreed to represent residents in Biscot as they felt incredibly strongly about it.

“I would have taken the exact same stance if it had been a heterosexual establishment.”…

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  1. RM says

    Jun 5, 2016 at 4:54 pm

    Man you people in the UK are screwed..

  2. b renniie says

    Jun 5, 2016 at 5:03 pm

    ISLAM OFFENDS MOST OF US EVERY BLOODY DAY

  3. Nigel GFF says

    Jun 5, 2016 at 5:19 pm

    “… given the large and devout Muslim population in this area of the borough …”

    One can only suppose that Ms Holloway has a meter to measure ‘devoutness’ – I wonder if she has patented it. We’d know as a BS meter.
    She would give a high reading on a kowtowometer.

    • Nigel GFF says

      Jun 5, 2016 at 5:37 pm

      The BS meter refers to the ‘measuring stick’ putatively employed by Ms. Holloway. Clearly, I can’t comment on the state or quality of an individuals relationship with their god.

  4. Robeaver says

    Jun 5, 2016 at 5:42 pm

    Folllow the money, someone got paid. There may be money in oil.

  5. jacques sabena says

    Jun 5, 2016 at 5:51 pm

    So “homosexuality stems from ‘brain diseases/malfunction’ and ‘incorrect thinking’, does it? This coming from people who follow to the letter a brutal, intolerant, fanciful religion created in the deserts of 7th century Saudi Arabia by a murderous paedophile. This from a people who believe that a man who blows himself up to kill innocents who dare not to believe in his absurd ideology will go to Paradise as a reward from his grateful “God”, and will have 72 virgins and young boys waiting for his sexual pleasure. Who has the ‘brain diseases’ and ‘incorrect thinking’? What is malfunctioning is our government in not crushing these dangerous fools.

  6. Jay Boo says

    Jun 5, 2016 at 5:55 pm

    Senior Pastor John Hagee had criticized gay parades.
    The Huff Post was furious.

    Those bloodthirsty anti-gay Muslim fundamentalists had better look out for a backlash from the liberals at Huff Post.

    Just wait………………………………………………………….

  7. Angemon says

    Jun 5, 2016 at 6:19 pm

    “I would have taken the exact same stance if it had been a heterosexual establishment.”

    The issue here is not your stance – would the muslims have complained if an heterosexual sauna made a similar request?

    • Lord Wrath says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 1:22 am

      Most certainly… If heterosexual men and women were both allowed to use the sauna together the muslims would complain just as bitterly… Besides,,, muslim women don’t need a sauna… They are forced to wear one every day!!!

      • ich says

        Jun 6, 2016 at 8:50 am

        hahhaa ya it has to be hot !

    • Anne Smith says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 2:12 pm

      This silly woman has only just been elected. However she is certainly following in the footsteps of her predecessor, the incompetent Olly Martin. He appointed the Muslim failed Labour candidate from the Bedfordshire General Election to a generously paid (£30,000 p.a,.) job, working 3 days a week as his deputy. No doubt to placate the large Muslim community in Luton and ensure they voted for him when his job was up for renewal. They didn’t but it doesn’t seem to matter – this new woman is equally willing to take up the cudgels on their behalf.

  8. Dan says

    Jun 5, 2016 at 6:34 pm

    So when do they start covering up pork and bacon signs?

    And making cartoons, and shows like “Babe” illegal?

    And tearing down their own churches.

    And killing all the dogs.

    How about we make Islam illegal to avoid offending the entire rest of the world?

  9. Cranky says

    Jun 5, 2016 at 7:20 pm

    Is there a history of them ever denying one on the basis that it might offend Christians? Didn’t think so. They only care about Muslims

  10. Hope says

    Jun 5, 2016 at 7:48 pm

    What is most interesting to me is the fact that both gays and muslims rank high on the Official Leftist List of Endangered and Protected Victim Groups. But we all know that muslims despise gays and believe gays have no right to exist. So, who will prevail as more of these conflicts hit the proverbial fan? Will muslim rights continue to TRUMP gay rights? (Sorry, couldn’t resist). This is going to be fascinating. Grab your popcorn and your drink, settle in and watch the fireworks.

  11. Diane Harvey says

    Jun 5, 2016 at 8:07 pm

    Further proof that Islam trumps (no pun) all other self-declared victim groups.

  12. mortimer says

    Jun 5, 2016 at 9:37 pm

    ‘Cultural sensitivity only goes one way…right LGBT community? That is what you have been telling us about Muslims…we must offend THEM. How should we behave when Muslims offend the LGBT community or threaten their lives?

    LGBT leaders in the West haven’t received death threats yet. Only then will they wake up and smell the jihad.

    • Jay Boo says

      Jun 5, 2016 at 10:17 pm

      “How should we behave when Muslims offend the LGBT community or threaten their lives? ”
      ———————————————————–
      You do not offer a possible answer.

      For starters after they (wake up and smell the jihad) they should not seek approval by Muslims or toss out a dhimmified one liner in all caps like:
      “WHAT IS IT THAT A SUPREMACIST WANTS?” as if their Muslim point of view is somehow more deserving of consideration than ours.

  13. mortimer says

    Jun 5, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    So Luton is now a RECOGNIZED and OFFICIAL NO-GO ZONE!

    Congratulations. Start wearing body armor and anti-stabbing neck shields.

  14. Kepha says

    Jun 5, 2016 at 9:50 pm

    And this is the same Britain that will jail a Christian pastor for merely saying that homosexuality is a sin!

    • Jay Boo says

      Jun 5, 2016 at 10:21 pm

      True
      Not just in Britain of course.
      Just Google (anti-gay and fundamentalist) and you will have a barrage Huff Post type links only about conservative Christians.

      • JOHN SPIELMAN says

        Jun 6, 2016 at 7:30 am

        homophobia vs islamophobia: who will win? me thinks those who are most violent in their opposition to the other

  15. Guest says

    Jun 5, 2016 at 10:16 pm

    The Muslim invasion will create a gay rights backlash. I sense a civil war coming.

  16. Jay Boo says

    Jun 5, 2016 at 10:26 pm

    Discrete Closet Gay Muslim men —
    strongly oppose having a Gay Sauna so close to the mosque they attend.

    The imams do not want a bunch of empty prayer mats from those who wander on the way to Friday prayer dances.

  17. Ciudadano says

    Jun 5, 2016 at 11:59 pm

    LGTB vs Islam, homophobia vs islamophobia. Liberal mind short circuit.

  18. Richard says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 3:51 am

    so policy has switched to placation of potentially violent minorities at the expense of the law of the land ?

  19. Mubarak says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 5:00 am

    Granted the nonsense that “homosexuality stems from “brain diseases/malfunction” and “incorrect thinking” the concession to Islam and a mosque, that they are legitimate arbiters of its suppression – or indeed the suppression of anything – in our part of the world is a disaster.
    Islam is the sickness that it purports to be the remedy for, and the remedy only nurtures the sickness – an explosive vicious circle and a catch 22.

  20. CGW says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 5:38 am

    Hi, fellow JWers.

    If you like this [short] video as much as I do, pass it on:

    • Mubarak says

      Jun 6, 2016 at 9:44 am

      The guy in the videoclip is sweet and poetic, but he is selling snake oil. –

      He resembles an owner of a cold blooded pet boa constrictor, who tries to convince his audience, that his pet is no different from a golden retriever puppy or pet rabbit, and when it coils around you, it is just showing affection and asking you for affection. –

      Islam functions like a Rorschach inkblot: it just mirrors humans who are all too human. Muslims are good Muslims when growing warm and feeling good about themselves and their prophet, but they are equally good Muslims, when they fume and rage against and behead infidels and scoffers and indeed anybody of another persuasion. –

      The real face of Muslims surface when drinking the ridicule, spite and contempt of their faith. That face is a mr. Hyde face, and they can’t hide it. It wasn’t Mohammad who said: “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.”
      Indeed, there is no father in Islam only an owner of a pet boa constrictor.

  21. ich says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 8:51 am

    Would anyone be brave enough to use the gay sauna with it being in Luton ?!!

    It would be bombed the day it opened

  22. Marty says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 9:41 am

    UK TV recently showed a programme about Luton police.
    All three topics were islam related.
    1. Muslim girl fleeing for her life from murderous relatives &, as all muslim womens’
    refuges full, being accommodated in a hotel at taxpayers’ expense.
    She can’t speak English.
    2. Proletarian woman & her mentally challenged son banged up overnight for
    insulting mohammedans next door & calling them terrorists.
    Forced to move home after all charges dropped.
    Meanwhile, next door white convert gets 3 years for terrorist offences
    3 Tommy Robinson hauled up & charged with hitting mohammedan who was going
    to attack him. All charges dropped.
    In each case mohammedans were the problem.
    Luton is considered the nastiest & saddest place in the South of England
    – outside East London.
    The women wear slave robes & face masks & their male owners walk around
    with their shirt tales round their ankles. Hellish.

  23. Valerie says

    Jun 6, 2016 at 5:04 pm

    These Islamic followers are hypocrites, there are Fatwas saying sex between two men is only punishable for the one being sodomized and not the other. Homosexuality is rampant within Islam culture as they are desensitized to hetro-sex because of the rampant man/boy pedophilia experienced as a child and their hatred towards women and lack of healthy female interaction during puberty. Islamic sexuality is pure evil and void of love. Their complaining, basically about anything Western, is a form of control and indoctrination into their non-religious political ideology, and idiot politicians (and apologists) lap it up because they choose to remain ignorant of Islam.

  24. vcragain says

    Jun 7, 2016 at 6:19 am

    This is a very difficult issue – while you may prefer freedom and tolerance, nobody wants sick stuff right next door. So how to deal with this ? Whatever the law says is the only way to go, even if you do not agree with what they are doing, if it is legal you have no argument – except to petition for getting the law changed.
    Theere is a problem with some gay people thinking that their ‘gayness’ means sick behavior, and we do not allow for sick behavior from anyone if it is a liability. Gayness does not equal sick, but humans can be VERY sick, even among VERY conservative people, so we need to keep this in perspective. I do not want my grandchildren to be exposed to ANYONE’S sick behavior so I think while this club may be a nuisance, whatever the law says has to be followed. This is a particularly nasty example of the problems in a free society. Living in a totally non-free society simply means mob-rule and none of us want that either.

  25. MC62 says

    Jun 8, 2016 at 4:40 am

    I’m still waiting for the LGBT to find those Islamic bakers, florists, guest houses, and photographers as the “wedding” day approaches! To date, the LGBT can only seem to find Christian owned businesses to bully and harass.

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