“For Democracy, Against Putsch” in Turkey means “For Islamization, Against Secularism.” And 50,000 people demonstrating for this in Germany bodes ill for Germany’s future. But what doesn’t, these days?
“50,000 demonstrators march through the streets of Cologne to show support for Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan,” by Anthony Joseph, MailOnline, July 31, 2016:
Around 50,000 demonstrators marched through the streets of Cologne this afternoon to show their support for Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan.
Waving the Turkish national flag, demonstrators held aloft pictures of Erdogan and placards reading ‘For Democracy, Against Putsch’ after a failed military coup earlier this month.
‘We are here because our compatriots in Germany advocate democracy and are against the attempted military coup,’ Turkey’s sport and youth minister, Akif Cagatay Kilic, who attended the rally, told reporters.
The demonstration became the focus of increasingly strained ties between Germany and Turkey after a decision by Germany’s top court on its eve prevented Erdogan from addressing the meeting via video-conference.
‘German Constitutional Court’s decision on the anti-coup rally in Cologne is an utter backsliding in freedom of speech and democracy,’ Turkey’s minister for EU affairs, Omer Celik, wrote in English on his official Twitter account….

Karen says
Translation: “Give us the lash”.
Erdogan is the pot who called the kettle black.
J D S says
I can remember the time that a flag as these would have brought the wrath of the German peoples and the flags and the flag bearer would have “vanished”? in thin air..but not in Merkels Germany……
IQ al Rassooli says
Interesting how INTEGRATED Turkish Muslims are in Germany & Europe. They were able to field 50,000 in support of a DICTATOR but could not field TEN Muslims against acts of terror by Muslims in Germany.
It really is not their fault since they are FORBIDDEN by Muhammad’s Quran from ever Assimilating, Integrating or being Loyal to ANY none Muslim peoples
The tragedy resides at the highest levels of political power in Germany starting with the CRIMINAL Angela Merkel and her party
Soon, Germany will pay even greater cost in German BLOOD spilled by more Islamic TERROR
Civil war may soon become a reality in Europe between the natives and the Muslim INVADERS!
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
Alvin Woods says
Turkey’s Grey Wolves. 10 000 members in Germany. Merkel has her own private army if and when the people rise up against her government.
gravenimage says
I am *no* fan of the suicidal Merkel, but pretending that it is Merkel who controls Turkey’s Grey Wolves makes no sense.
John Van Vliet says
Actually the German Government just past a law that allows the army to intervene in any civil issue that may arise against by the people to demonstrate against government action or policies…..
Custos Custodum says
One needs to remember the wider history.
“Turks” did not arrive in modern “Turkey” until around 800 AD, and Turkish Islam to this day is generally still relatively shallow and pragmatic. Turkey makes great beer, and there don’t seem to be many Turks committing suicide attacks.
Erdogan’s genius was harnessing ethnic and social discontent, arming it with offensive Islam, and building on this ideological foundation and traditional communist and National Socialist techniques of “co-option” to take control of a large country with disparate populations.
Turks (like Persians) do have a vague collective memory that they had a real history before Islam, and that Islam is among other things a cult of Arab supremacism. Westerners need to remind them of these points, again and again.
gravenimage says
Custos Custodum wrote:
One needs to remember the wider history.
“Turks” did not arrive in modern “Turkey” until around 800 AD, and Turkish Islam to this day is generally still relatively shallow and pragmatic…
………………….
Custos, Islam was only suppressed in Turkey–to an extent, anyway–by the actions of Atatürk in the early part of the 20th century.
Before this the Ottoman Empire was the last Caliphate, and they took their Islam *very* seriously, using Christians as Janissaries and to fill their Harems, and at the end of the Caliphate pious Muslims went on a decades-long rampage, massacring most of the remaining Christians there–well over a million people–in the Armenian Genocide.
I’m afraid the legacy of Islam in Turkey is *anything* but ‘moderate’.
vivienne Leijonhufvu (@goldaleijonhufv) says
Well put good to see another knows their history! 🙂
gravenimage says
Thank you, Vivienne.
Jay Boo says
More recently “Turks” did not arrive in modern ” (Germany) until a little over 50 years ago. These supposed “Guest Workers” were allowed to stay despite earlier REASSURANCES by German politicians that it was only temporary. Merkel was not the only defender of Muslims liar. It is a German legacy.
Now Germany is swarming with obnoxious Ottomans.
Real Turks are Asian says
Real Turks look ASIAN.Look at the so called Turks in Turkey…only 2% or so look Asian!!!!!!!!
And it was only 2% who ruled the country for a long time with there good soldiers.
Turrks in Turkey are Greeks,Armenians,Kurds,Georgians,Arabs,Assyrians,Slavs from the Balkan(You have BLOND Turks there!!!)but the most dont know and dont want to know.That shows how stupid there are.It will be the same if Japan will say we are Europeans.THe whole world had a laugh if they say it….
So to destroy Turkish thinking you must say it every day to them.YOU DONT LOOK ASIAN-HOW CAN YOU BE A TURK?
Shane says
I don’t know if the German people will fight, and which side will the Leftists be on. I’m afraid like Obama, the Left will side with the Islamists against the Christians and Jews.
panda says
I wonder if any Germans even consider that that is a a foreign flag in their country. Oh Wait. What’s the Mexican flag doing in ours??
BC says
A while back there was a report that Erdogan had sent a message to Turks living in Germany to resist attempts to integrate the.
IQ al Rassooli says
Erdogan did NOT need to tell Turks NOT to INTEGRATE
Muhammad’s Quran PROHIBITS Muslims categorically INTEGRATION among none Muslim
That is why no Muslim anywhere on Earth in the land of the Kuffar/ Infidels in Dar al Harb (Territories of War) can EVER ever be a LOYAL citizen to none Muslims whether in the Americas, Europe, Asia, Australia, Africa or Antarctica
Every single Muslim is by indoctrination a potential Mass Murderer
Trump is correct and ALL those who insult him are either brain dead or STUPID
Sue me for telling the TRUTH!!
Iq al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
David jones says
Rubbish utter rubbish! You sure don’t know nothing about Islam or any other religion to say the least you cherrypick certain verses yet conveniently ignore the violence in the Bible .the Bible is by far the most violent “Holy” book there is .so try reading the Bible before you condemn any other religion. You are obsessed with a small sect of Islam that is Wahhabism ,what you conveniently forget to point out is that Wahhabism is followed by 5% ,of the world’s 1.7 billion Muslims ,and the majority of Muslims do NOT commit acts of terror or murder ,and by scapegoating an entire religion on the acts of a tiny minority is blatantly wrong both ethically and morally .you are just peddling the same false propaganda that the Nazis used against the Jews!
Robert Spencer says
David Jones: At this late date, do you really think anyone will fall for this rubbish?
John Van Vliet says
It is Islam that is responsible for more then 28000 deaths in terror attacks since 911 also executed by Islam, the Quran teaches to terrorize infidels and Jews it forbids the make friends with infidels and muslima’s are not allowed to marry a none muslim, but a muslin can marry a none muslim woman and beat her into submission, Islam is the most violent ideology on the face of the planet and the quran a book that is hateful and incites violence. 99% of terror attacks are caused by Islamic teaching.. there is NOTHING peaceful about islam every were in the islamic world there is violence an terrible abuses of human rights,,, so spare me you argument you are very deceptive or a liar….
IQ al Rassooli says
David Jones
Let me assume this is your real name. It is OBVIOUS to ALL those who read Jihad Watch that you are either a total IMBECILE, the usual Brain Dead who is utterly out of touch with Facts & Reality or a closeted Muslim
Let me EDUCATE you:
1.No human being can find a SINGLE verse in the ‘violent’ Bible that INCITES the followers of Moses or Jesus to EXTERMINATE, Plunder, Rape, Subjugate or Terrorize those who are not the followers of their faith
2. I quoted from DIFFERENT chapters and verses that are in Muhammad’s Quran
3. $200,000 says no human being can find a SINGLE operative verse in Muhammad’s Quran that shows ANY Compassion & Mercy towards Infidels/ Kuffar/ Unbelievers (80% of current none Muslim humanity)
4. In summation, NO human being on Earth and NO Intelligent Life outside the Solar System can prove ANYTHING Robert Spencer or I reveal as either Wrong or Untrue
Put Up or FOREVER Shut Up
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
Christianblood says
Turkey, so-called “Nato member” and American ally is about to become another full-fledged islamic sharee’a state. More worrisome issue in all of this is the dozens of American nukes being kept at Incirlik Nato base where thousands of islamist Turks are screaming “death to America” and “we need islam”: https://www.rt.com/news/353753-turkey-protest-incirlik-base/
President Putin was right when he said, “Anything US touches turns into Libya or Iraq”. Watch plz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGwWD-VVBEc
Angemon says
Good to see you’re keeping your priorities straight, CB. Turks in Germany protesting in favour of Erdogan? Why, that sure is related to Putin and US!
gravenimage says
Yup.
Jay Boo says
Christianblood makes some very valid points until he drifts off course on a side trajectory. His keyboard must be in need of a new rudder to navigate his way back on course.
dwight hogg says
We had the same idiots making excuses for Hitler and then Stalin – the misery Muslims are going to cause to the people of Europe is going to be horrendous and then the backlash will encompass Muslims who are not responsible or bad people but who must join the few Muslims who are warning the West of the inevitable catastrophe coming. There are some Muslims who know that Islam has to be reformed to adapt to the democratic values and freedoms so important in a free and prosperous society. Ayan Hirsi Ali has some very informative books which all Muslims should read. There are Muslims like Tarek Fatah and Raheel Raza who are also ones to be heeded….even though they are under the threat of death for speaking out. It is beyond incredible that they are threatened with death for expressing their opinion. Listen to the hate being spewed from Palestine House. How can mobs of Muslims parade through the streets of Toronto with Hamas, Hezbollah, and ISIS flags – their faces contorted in a mindless rage spewing their hatred against the very freedoms we have in this country? But when Ezra Levant or Mark Stein write articles about these disgusting vermin they are charged with hate speech by Canadian Human Rights Commissions. The hypocrisy is phenomenal.
Christianblood says
dwight hogg
Let us do the math: There are (supposedly) 1.5 Billion muslims around the world and those individuals who would like to reform islam are five or four individuals who live in the West, some of them under 24/7 police protection. Good luck with them but I would not hang any hope on them!
gravenimage says
Christianblood has left off his excoriation of the West here to actually make some sense. He’s quite right here.
John Van Vliet says
You maybe wrong for there is a growing resistance towards among ordinary folks against Islam and the NWO who are a part of the process to destroy nations identities by way of migration and to create the problems and social unrest they need to establish a one world government.
It will all come to a major civil confrontation to force governments to listen to the people…. so create awareness by communicating and media’s like this while there is stil freedom to do so…..
Loison Helmer says
You are right on the money with your comment. From one Canadian to another I have seen this coming for a long time and we are truly being sold down the river by our government and Trudeau.
St. Patrick says
“the misery Muslims are going to cause to the people of Europe is going to be horrendous”
What it hasn’t already? And still is..”Going to be” ??!!
Michael Copeland says
“Democracy”? Oh yes.
“Democracy is like a train. When we reach our destination we step off it.”
Erdogan.
Lesley says
@Michael Copeland:
Your Erdrogan quote startled me. I dug up other quotes by this leader, and the more I know, the less I understand why Turkey is still considered a NATO ally.
What if this recent coup (which I firmly believe was staged) was a tactic to not only consolidate power, but to grab some of those nukes at Incirlik?
What if those nukes, say, somehow find their way to Iran, or some other sworn enemy of the West?
:-/
gravenimage says
Turkey is *not* an ally of any Infidels.
Christianblood says
gravenimage
You are right. Deep down, Turkey is not allied with any infidels
but the infidels such as the US and Nato think they are allied with Turkey.
Custos Custodum says
I believe Erdogan’s original quote referenced a “tram”</b? rather than a mainline "train" thus implying that he anticipated a rather shorter ride.
BTW Erdogan himself apparently used to boast that he was actually an ethnic Georgian whose ancestors lived on the Black Sea coast but now portrays himself as the new uber-Turk. Erdogan’s recent utterances about the “tainted blood” of ethnic Turkish politicians make more sense when seen against his personal background – as a projection of an ongoing complex about “Turkishness.”
Gary says
Lucifer’s deception led to humanity’s banishment from The Garden of Eden.
……it’s continuing in Turkey.
Islam: The Great deception!
Mockingjay says
50,000 is a bit of an overestimate though.
They expected at least 30,000.
They got around 20.
The weather wasn’t so good.
Lots of rain, and thunder.
Mockingjay says
Sorry, update:
German police say there were between 30 and 40 thousand people there, protesting against the coup in “their” country – and no, that’s obviously not Germany.
Crusades Were Right! says
I wonder what happens when a nation that regards patriotism and nationalism as deeply shameful things allows itself to be colonised by millions of foreigners for whom extreme national pride is as natural as breathing?
Let’s see!
Diane Harvey says
If this were a 10-K report, Germany would be described as, “The Bundesrepublik Deutschland [Republic of Germany], a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Türkiye Cumhuriyeti [Republic of Turkey].”
Nigel GFF says
“…‘German Constitutional Court’s decision on the anti-coup rally in Cologne is an utter backsliding in freedom of speech and democracy,’ Turkey’s minister for EU affairs, Omer Celik…”
Hahahahahaha.
“Why do you see the speck in your brother’s eye but fail to notice the beam in your own eye?” (Matthew 7:3 ISV)
Infidel from Down Under says
The men of Cologne would no doubt have kept their their wives,girlfriends and daughters well away from this to protect their saftey while this lot were gathered in such numbers in the centre of their city
Peter says
Clearly, the loyalties of these Turkish-Germans are to Islam and Turkey, not multicultural Germany.
Carmel says
Stop buying german products for a time like Volkswagen.
Wellington says
What an ugly flag Turkey has. It conveys a lot——-the star and crescent are both representations of Islam, the worst religion ever created by man, and the red signifies the blood spilled by Turks over the centuries. But for what was this spilling of blood? For Islam first and foremost of course.
As I said, it’s one damn ugly flag and is indeed representative of a people who embraced the wrong religion, and again and again spilled the blood of their young men for something malevolent and useless. Ranks right up there with the Soviet flag displaying the hammer and sickle and the Third Reich flag displaying the swastika. Yeah, it’s this awful.
St. Patrick says
Well putsch Wellington..As usual and ever..
St. Patrick says
puscht..Just sayin’..Right the first time..Ha..All the best Well..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch
vivienne Leijonhufvu (@goldaleijonhufv) says
So round them arrest them as Erdogan has done 60,000 take away their German passports and ship them back to Erdogan.
gravenimage says
50,000 demonstrate for Turkey’s Erdogan…in Cologne, Germany
………………..
And yet, fewer than 50 came out for a demonstration in Washington, DC, against ISIS.
Compare and contrast…
St. Patrick says
..but it was sooo hot..Perhaps in the fall? Yeah right..Thanks Graven..Good one..
Wellington says
Dearest gravenimage (and you are to me most dear), I a few days ago retrieved a tome from my library that I had not looked upon for some twenty years. It is the great French medievalist’s master work, “La fin du monde antique et le debut du Moyen Age,” that is to say in English translation, “The End Of The Ancient World And The Beginning Of The Middle Ages.”
This superb historian whom I reference is Ferdinand Lot (1866-1952). To this day, he is still greatly respected by medievalists, so thorough, prodigious in output, and masterful in assessments was he. In any case, this masterpiece of his was published in 1927 and on page 54 I found in this work a hauntingly and disturbingly correct assessment of Islam. I now convey this to you, and I can only hope that other astute commenters here at JW, like Angemon, ,mortimer, Mirren, jihad3tracker, CES, Demsci, RolandB, et al., also read what I here write to you. It goes as follows (in English translation):
“In spite of all the efforts, the Church was never destined to succeed in dominating the State. The real reason for this was, as we have seen, that the Christian Church had not been constituted for the life of this world. It brought to society no new legal or social ideas. Consequently it accepted without any opposition and without any real distaste the institution of the Roman state……………..Herein lies the secret of the profound difference, far more profound than is recognized, between Christian and Muslim states. Islam brings with it not only a religion but also a system of laws and a political theory, the equivalent of which it would be vain to look for in the Gospels. But even this way of speaking is not quite accurate: laws, customs, usages, even are all indistinguishable in this religion. And as its law, polity, and usages are elementary, made for an undeveloped society, it is a superhuman task to adapt a Muslim society to modern life. Here religion will not be content with its proper share. It is useless to try and put it in its place, for its place is everywhere or nowhere.”
Damn good call, no? Prescient in toto. And made going on a hundred years ago. Those last three sentences of Lot’s, and most especially the last one I would contend, convey a universal truth about Islam————for all time and everywhere. If only more in today’s West would heed it. Take care, my friend.
nicu says
50.000 and their families who don’t have a right to live in our country !
Most of them support IS anyway ( 80% ) !
Alvin Woods says
Turks were given visa free EU travel in return for controlling their southern borders.
Alvin Woods says
Looks like they have not been given permission. I was wrong. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/15/turkey-misses-deadline-visa-free-travel-eu-ambassador-withdraw
Alvin Woods says
How many German marched this weekend against merkel? 5k? Almost as many counter demonstrators.
And Turks can raise 40k + in a few days within Germany.
Germany is doomed to civil war.
Erdogan has Germany by the balls. No wonder merkel was forced to take in millions of Syrians and blackmailed into giving Turkey 3 billion.
Plus Germany is Turkeys biggest sponsor for EU membership.
At least Merkel will have a private army to defend their power. Millions of muslims and the far left.
Baucent says
Good point, 5,000 protested against the incompetent Merkel and 40,000+ rallied to support Islamist Erdogan. That tells me the German people are not ready yet. They are still believing mostly the lie that integration of these migrants is possible and secondly that Islam has a right to be in Germany. But that will change as more jihadists reveal the true agenda.
andra says
Many of these Turks came from Netherland and Belgium. But you are right, there are only few Germans protesting on the streets for their future.
One reason is that they are afraid of losing their jobs when protesting openly against the system. On the German blog pi-news.net was an interesting comment referring to this lethargy especcially in West Germany. The people there have been indoctrined for so many decades. They have been disarmed for a long time and the guilt-cult has taught them that it is indecent to claim any rights for Germans or critizise anything foreigh. It is hard to stand up for your rights when you have learned all your life that this behaviour is shameful.
These last years one of the newest doctrines is that it were the Turks who rebuilt Germany after WW II. And who wants to rebel against the saviours of your country?
Alvin Woods says
http://gatesofvienna.net/2016/07/its-nobodys-business-but-the-turks/#more-40460. Interesting and relevant link ti the German Turkey problem.
Jay Boo says
German Girls
Keep your distance in Cologne
Don’t forget to wear your Swedish made “Do Not Molest Me Bracelets”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/07/to-counter-muslim-migrant-sex-assaults-swedish-cops-giving-girls-do-not-molest-me-bracelets
Baucent says
50,000 Turks loyal to every word and command of Erdogan and living in Germany. No wonder the German government decided to prevent the Caliph from making a video linked speech to the crowd. No government anywhere would allow an external government to address a political meeting in another country.
This should worry the Germans a lot. Erdogan could call out his loyalists onto German streets if the dignity of His Grace is offended again.
eowyn von rohan says
Oh, this didn´t freighten our government last year and lots of years before.
Erdogan had mäny events in Germany throuout the last years. In my hometown Cologne he was at least twice in the Kölnarena- greatest Eventhall in Cologne – and thousands of turks came there. The whole town was plastered with signs in turkish language – not in german. We didn´t know, what these signs said. We didn´t understand, what Erdogan said in Cologne or eleswhere – it was all in turkish. None in the German Government had any problems with this, allthough it was obvious, that Erdogan was on re-election-campaign in a foreign country.
Last year he stayed at Frankfurt (I think). There he named the turks living in Germany “His Poeple outside Turkey”. Nothing, no reaction from the Government.
I guess the Government did react a little this time, because people in Germany are awakening and they don´t like what they see.
Rob says
Pity these motivated Muslims in COLOGNE couldn’t come out in protest against the NY sex assaults.
Richard Paulsen says
The muslim men in Europe should go fighting against daesh and to change their nations into democracies. Their own countries pay. Instead of Europe, U.S.A., europeans and americans having to.
Lots of money reasonably belonging to Germany and Europe wasted on muslim countries. Does not make sense. Muslims now even an important part of Europe.
Muslim violence and antagonism against each other and against non-believers now in countries having fought devastating wars, finallly cooperating and living in peace and prosperity.
the same even in a european country living in peace for 200 years muslim aggression taking over increasingly.
Must be stopped. Good Germany said no this time.
Richard Paulsen says
Correction: The same even in a country in Europe enjoying peace for 200 years. Muslim aggression taking over increasingly.
David A says
Certainly at least one of these Muslims in Germany at sometime enlisted in the German army and then died while on duty.
This proves all Muslims are good, Merckel is right, and everyone else is an Islamaphope.
This message brought to you by the ,”I am with her” coalition of useful idiots.
andra says
I doubt that there has been any fallen German soldier with foreign origin. Germany hides their soldiers who die while on duty very well. If possible they even don´t get mentioned in public. But if there were any Muslim soldiers among these death there would be lioud mourning and a raging Muslum mob would run through German streets for revenge.
duh swami says
Tayip is like Allah…he has no partners, but he has lots of helpers…
Florida Jim says
Erdogan is a tyrant who is also a muslim a bad combination. The poor people of Turkey and surrounding nations will rue the day Erdogan took over just as Russia did with Stalin and Germany with Hitler. Tyrants take the guns from honest citizens and then abuse them for decades. Let’s pray The Turks awaken quickly.
Gary says
U.S. Central Command Commander General Joseph Votel said on July 28 that a number of the U.S. military’s closest allies in the Turkish military have been placed in jail following the July 15 attempted coup.
“We’ve certainly had relationships with a lot of Turkish leaders, military leaders in particular,” General Votel said at the Aspen Security Forum meeting in Colorado. “I’m concerned about what the impact is on those relationships as we continue.”
Translation: Folks. Islam is raising it’s ugly head. SUBMIT or be crushed.
Owen Morgan says
Another photograph of this rally that I saw had the iconic twin spires of Cologne Cathedral in the background. The Cathedral is very close to the Hauptbahnhof, the main railway station, outside which so many atrocities were committed last New Year. There is no coincidence that these islamists chose Cologne Cathedral for their backdrop.
Rich says
Erdogan is the literal Antichrist. The Ottoman Empire is the ‘beast’ that was wounded and “has come back to life again” referred to in the Book of Revelation in the New Testament. Islam is the “religion” of the Antichrist [1John 4:1-3] and Erdogan, a Sufi Muslim, will soon unite ALL Muslims – Sufi, Sunni, and Shia – in the real Caliphate, with himself as Sultan/Caliph. Open your eyes. It could not be more clear.
Inform yourselves further at Shoebat dot com and get Walid’s fantastic book, “God’s War On Terror”. Prophecy is unfolding right before our eyes.
Karl 199 says
This year there are elections in BERLIN-you know Berlin is full of Turks.
After it looks like the Turks hate the german polticians more than ever i wonder who they will vote?
The most Turks voted in the last years the SPD(Social Democrats),or other LEft or Green Partys.
The rest voted for Merkels Party CDU.
If they dont go to the elections it will be very good for the AFD.
ps:Also very funny.The SPD was against the Pro Erdogan Demo-but the Organizer was an Turkish SPD MEMBER!45 year old Ahmet Çon.
http://fredalanmedforth.blogspot.com/2016/08/kolner-pro-erdogan-demo-initiator-ist.html
Also i can say to you that 99% of the Turks in germany are 100% Turkish and 100% for Turkey.Even if they get an german Passport they say 1 minute after into TV cameras:Im a Turk-a paper is nothing!Also a famous Turkish comedian sayed in TV that every Turk who gets an german Passport will be asked by Turkish State if he dont want again a Turkish passport-thats forbidden in germany but the most will take it,but german laws say you lost the Citizeship than.
So many people in germany go the elections who dont have the right anymore!!!