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Answer to jihad challenge isn’t “the gutless multiculturalism of Western elites”

Jul 21, 2016 4:56 am By Robert Spencer

So what is it? A model may be found in the Cold War. Although the West’s response to the jihad threat is hamstrung today by the continuance of empty and counterproductive Cold War alliances such as those with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, that doesn’t mean that no lessons from that period apply to today.

G.M. Davis studied political religions and totalitarianism at Stanford University, where he received his Ph.D. in political science in 2003. He has written for Jihad Watch, among many other publications, and is the author of House of War: Islam’s Jihad Against the World.

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“How America can ‘contain’ Islam now,” by G. M. Davis, WND, July 18, 2016:

In an earlier column, I argued that the great adversary we are facing on the world stage today is not “radical” Islam, or “extreme” Islam, but Islam pure and simple.

It is the same adversary that, beginning in the seventh century, overran the Middle East and North Africa killing and enslaving tens of millions, and oppressed most of the Christian East under Shariah law for more than a thousand years, and it is now pushing down roots in the urban centers of Western Europe and North America.

It is this metastasizing danger that recently prompted Patrick Calvar, chief of the French Directorate General of Internal Security, to declare, “We are on the brink of civil war.”

The answer to this challenge is neither the gutless multiculturalism of Western elites, which refuses either to name or resist the adversary that is threatening Western Civilization, or the misguided efforts to “democratize” the Islamic world through military action, but rather a policy of active containment, which would simultaneously curtail Muslim immigration into the West and disengage Western military assets from costly and fruitless overseas entanglements.

Containing Islam is a deliberate echo of the strategy articulated by George Kennan in 1947 and pursued to ultimate victory during the Cold War against Soviet Communism. It may be said that it was not merely containment that won the Cold War – that the Soviet Union collapsed for other reasons – or that containment itself was pursued inconsistently, all of which certainly have grains of truth to them. Nonetheless, containment was the essence of the successful American strategy against Communism, and it can bring the much-needed clarity to Western strategy against Islam that has been so terribly lacking.

Containment would operate in two ways: stopping the Islamization of the West through curtailing Muslim immigration and clamping down on Islamic activism, while supporting secular and quasi-secular regimes overseas that share an interest in quashing jihadist activity.

At home, Islam would, in addition to its status as a religion, be recognized as a hostile political ideology, which would give the government broad powers to stop terrorists as well as “soft jihadists” from pushing their agenda of bringing Shariah to the West.

Overseas, no mission of the U.S. military would henceforth include “nation building” or bringing “democracy” to any Islamic country; Islam itself is a form of government and is entirely unsuited to Western democratic principles. The only effective alternative government to the repressive and barbaric code of Shariah is the only form that has ever worked in the Islamic world, namely, quasi-secular dictatorship.

The reason the Islamic world breeds strongmen like Saddam Hussein, Moammar Gadhafi, Hosni Mubarak, Bashar al-Assad, etc., is because they are the only types of leaders capable of lending order to what is a fundamentally chaotic and brutal culture in which true-believing jihadists ever threaten to rend the tenuous strains of freedom and order (e.g. ISIS). Even “enlightened” Turkey, which has teetered along as a nominal democracy since the draconian reforms of Ataturk, is at least two parts dictatorship, as current President Recep Tayyip Erdogan seems intent on proving on a regular basis.

On immigration, Muslims wanting to enter the United States would be given greater scrutiny as a matter of course for the simple reason that, all things being equal, their religion disposes them to the sort of otherwise unpredictable violence we have witnessed again and again, in this country and overseas.

As Winston Churchill observed, “Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.”

Exactly. The problem now is that our immigration controls are so upside-down that the call for a moratorium on Muslim immigration is the right one. In time, with more discerning policies, it should be possible to allow Muslims who can demonstrate their genuine good intentions and pass rigorous background checks to be granted long-term residency and even citizenship. Until then, halting Muslim immigration to the U.S. and other Western countries is just common sense. Furthermore, entry visas should immediately be required for all Muslims seeking to enter U.S. territory with attendant extra background checks and reduced times for remaining on U.S. soil.

The most difficult question is how the U.S. government should regard Muslim Americans. Here, it is imperative to bear in mind that, along with the objectives of defending the nation against jihadist attack and the sort of creeping Shariah occurring in European cities, an equal imperative is the safeguarding of civil liberties. The current policy regime of profiling people on the basis of everything except the salient ideology that drives terrorism is a recipe for the police state we see growing around us. Profiling on the criterion of Islam would dramatically reduce the need for the present sprawling surveillance apparatus, which in turn would dramatically reduce the threat to civil liberties. Muslim Americans, in turn, should be granted all of the rights and privileges accruing to all American citizens with the caveat that their allegiance, explicit or implicit, to a political-religious ideology that sanctions violence against unbelievers and intends the replacement of the U.S. Constitution with Shariah law will necessarily mark them for greater scrutiny and must preclude them from sensitive areas such as government service.  For all Muslims wanting to leave their religion and who come to the U.S. for sanctuary, they should be afforded every help and protection to undertake their act of conscience.

In this whole debate, it is imperative to bear in mind that containment is not merely about us versus them: Islamic terrorism is at least as great a threat to Muslims around the world as Westerners at home. Preserving Western civil society not only serves the interests of Westerners but also those from around the world who look to the West – and to America – as a safe haven from Islam-based violence….

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  1. vivienne Leijonhufvu (@goldaleijonhufv) says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 5:14 am

    Well this is very sound, why on earth has the west not seen this before? Europe is already lost and unless radical steps are taken and that is to return all Sharia demanding Muslims back to Sharia compliant nations we will continue to be attacked, raped and forced to convert. Does no one but no one learn anything from the past these days? It is all very well to say there is only the present but there is no progress without learning from the past! It was common knowledge when I was reading history Islam was a cult rather than a religion. Winston Churchill had first hand knowledge of these barbarians. Barbarians is what they are. It will take centuries for Islamic nations to evolve to a higher level for as long as they follow this false prophet blindly no progress will be made. Saudi Arabia is very good example Feudal Lords in other words one law for the rich religion for the rest. Once proud Persia has been dead since the 7th century.

    • Marty says

      Jul 21, 2016 at 5:36 am

      I agree 100%.
      When we leave the EU & have some control on our borders
      (but plenty of illegal immigration), we will still have the threat of British
      based islam.
      Officially there are “only” 4 million mohammedans in the UK.
      But, they are very fertile, since their women are treated as little more than
      breeding machines. Seven children are quite usual, less than four, rare.
      They are also very powerful in “legitimate” politics as well as crime
      The typical UK indigene has two or three children at most.
      Our indigenous underclass is more than replicating itself with typically
      4 + kids – up to 8 or more
      So, in 20 years time the UK will have millions of unproductive ignorant
      indigenes, & rather more “permanent immigrants”, mohammedans who
      cannot integrate.
      The Welfare State depends on intergenerational trust.
      That is rapidly dying.
      Unless we act on islam, as well as the EU, the UK will also die a slow death.

      • DFD says

        Jul 21, 2016 at 11:22 am

        Hi Marty,

        Interesting post. Late summer ’75 or ’76 I read in the daily’s, Express, Telegraph, etc., that the number of Muslims in the UK was about 3.5 million. A few months back it was 3 million… Leave you to figure that. I calculated in ’95, based upon the 75/76 figure, assuming 3 kids on average, that we will have by 2010 to 2020 somewhere between 12 million and 18 million Muslims. Depending on what method of calculation and assumption was used.

        London, it’s still called by that name, for the time being, has about 8 million residents. But Muslims are everywhere, a Muslim mayor has been elected – I wonder what the maths and numbers really are.

        Luton, non Muslims getting rarer and rarer – I wonder what the maths and numbers really are.

        Bradford, same as Luton, with Bingley already taken over and practically ‘annexed’, against the will of the Binglyians; Leeds, soon Islamized, the breeding rate in Bradford and Bingley is amazing, staggering, not containable. In Bradford the churches have high fences and barbed wire, when I studied there in the 90’s. Dirt and rubbish is still flung over the fences or pushed through the rails. I studied there, hmh, don’t know what to say, BD is a place I avoid like the pits. That’s what it has become. Now I live in a tourist area, whenever I meet people from BD who are on holiday, it takes a while for them to “open up”. I make comments, they look at each other, when I relay personal experiences and observations, the begin “to open up”. Once trust has been established, oh brother, oh brother !!!! They pour out their hearts, elder ones have frequently to choke back tears. I think by now we reached a stage where in many parts of the UK Adolf H. would win an election among the native Brits without the slightest effort. Many actually say he should come back, or someone like him, it’s just incredible. Remember Enoch’s speech? I think the trigger will be in France, the Germans on their heels and they will go, fairly quickly, full whack – and then it’s us.

        I don’t bother buying papers anymore, when I find them in a pub, or read them on the net, I wonder if thy are from a different planet, compared with what the people think. Even the Scots think like Brits, I’m south of the border.

        What do you think?

        PS: London really depresses me, even more then Bradford. London, like Berlin is one of my two home towns.

        • Nigel GFF says

          Jul 21, 2016 at 2:34 pm

          Best not mention the Islamic Republic of Dewsbury then. A good review…. of Lockwood’s book.

          http://newenglishreview.org/Esmerelda_Weatherwax/The_Islamic_Republic_of_Dewsbury_-_Danny_Lockwood/

        • Guest says

          Jul 21, 2016 at 9:47 pm

          Adolf would be right up the islamist’s alley! Never forget that and make sure that the people opening up to you understand that: Hitler had muslim allies and sharia law is antisemitic and fascist.

          In other words, those opposing islam are not neonazis!

        • DFD says

          Jul 22, 2016 at 5:48 am

          Guest says “Adolf would be right up the islamist’s alley! Never forget that and make sure that the people opening up to you understand that: Hitler had muslim allies and sharia law is antisemitic and fascist. … In other words, those opposing islam are not neonazis!”

          Pathetic, cr.p with an undue collection of !!!!!!!
          ==================================

          Your knowledge about history is severely lacking, boy **!** Indeed, he had Muslim allies, what a revelation **!** How knowledgeable you are, who could have guessed that **!** And I really believed that all western nations had Muslim allies, for a couple centuries, some even longer. And I am so naïve to think that they still are. I even had the impression that there are not only Muslims fighting for western nations, but that there are western soldiers fighting for Muslims, isn’t that a silly idea? They would be super-dupa-ultra Nazis. According to your “thinking”. Whoops, I forgot your **!**

          Whilst I do not mind to be corrected when due or necessary, after all, neither my knowledge nor that of others is even vaguely complete, and indeed, I welcome correction for it improves me.

          **But**:

          I don’t like to be told by a presumptuous, hyped up little **idiot** what to tell people who trust me **!** Further, if you would have read what I said, you would have noticed those people were not opposing Islam, they were, and are, despairing of it **!**

          “Never forget that and make sure……” You pathetic retard **!** JUST WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO COMMAND AND TO ORDER ME – OR OTHERS? **!**

          “In other words”, go back to you pot, you little pi…er **!** UNDERSTOOD **!**

          Understood, Jackass!

        • Guest says

          Jul 22, 2016 at 9:59 pm

          You seem to be very angry at me, but I’m not sure why. I get that people are very upset about the increased islamic dominance, but how does it help the situation if they believe likes of antisemitic Hitler would help?

          My point was that helping them find a more productive direction for their motivation is a good opportunity for you.

          Btw: I’m not a ‘boy’ but quite a mature person. Mature enough to smile at your extreme anger at me and say: I’m glad people are opening up to you. I hope you can help them.

        • DFD says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 8:12 am

          Guest says; “You seem to be very angry at me, but I’m not sure why. I get that people are very upset about the increased islamic dominance, but how does it help the situation if they believe likes of antisemitic Hitler would help?….” Etc.

          Yo may smile, referring to you as boy was meant as some sort of insult, as a put down. Neither your age nor you personally are of concern to me. It was a matter of the attitude that you expressed.

          I did not say that Hitler was an answer, on the contrary, everybody who knows me, on this website that is, will gladly testify to that. What I did was to point out the desperate, and misguided, notions ordinary people are driven to. Even here in England. Reading instead of glancing might be useful.

          Further, your reply indicates the usual bit of Stratfor/Friedman, Soros and Lecter-Spectre propaganda about evil Europeans, particular the Germanic people.

          As far as your Hitlerist anti European, anti German propaganda is concerned, utter nonsense. The man was as racist as one can be, who would have never ever been chummy with them. The Muslims would have been next, since most of them are non Europeans – particularly in those days. The fact that he used some of them means nothing, the western allies used a lot more Muslims than he did. And did so prior to him, and still do; very much so. He had nothing but contempt for religion in general, in particular Christianity. He “merely” expressed a *preference* for Islam over Christianity due to the fact that Islam is thoroughly totalitarian, which he loved. Hitler and religion? He tried to get the Germans away from Christianity, but as a result the churches filled up – he quit.

          As far as alliances with Muslims are concerned, the Americans, British and French, alphabetic order, are unbeatable in that respect. For a bit more than two centuries. Their protection for the local Christians? Hardly any, just enough to avoid an angry population at home. I wouldn’t break any lances if I were you.

          I am writing this reply to you not for your benefit, but for those readers who may fall into that propaganda trap.

          I may be mistaken about you, which would please me indeed, since friends or fellow anti jihadists are still relatively rare, but I doubt it. I know your type of posts from Pam Geller’s website. The respondents there are more busy gloating over Europe’s troubles and expressing their satisfaction that Europeans “get what they deserve”, than being concerned with Islam and its implications.

          BTW, did you notice that I said what I said without commanding, ordering about and with exclamation marks.

        • Guest says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 6:16 pm

          “What I did was to point out the desperate, and misguided, notions ordinary people are driven to.”

          And what I did was point out that their desperate grasping at Hitler was scary (thus using ‘!’) but an opportunity for you to give better guidance.

          No idea where you get the idea that I’m anti-European. I grew up in Europe and am alarmed and saddened by what is happening.

          Anyway, since you seem determined to misinterpret everything I say, I won’t bother talking to you again.

          You are a very unpleasant person!

  2. IQ al Rassooli says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 5:20 am

    Anyone who has read Muhammad’s Quran (especially chapters 1 to 9) and a few of the Hadiths must come to the following only logical and fair assessment:

    Muhammad, his Quran, his Sunna, Sharia and every Fundamentalist Muslim is Hatemongering Warmongering Misogynist Duplicitous Racist Disloyal Hypocritical Intolerant and Vile creature whose sole purpose in life as mandated in his Quran is to try to Force into conversion, Subjugate or Exterminate ALL humans who are not Muslims called Infidels/ Kuffar

    Therefore no Muslim should be allowed to reside in any none Muslim country since they must submit to Sharia the nemesis of ALL man made laws and constitutions

    All Muslims in none Muslim countries must therefore by SUSPECT and all their Mosques, Madrassas and Institutions should be subjected to constant surveillance and those who incite in these organizations should be tried and when found guilty to be instantly deported to an Islamic paradise of their choosing

    The above are neither Racism not Islamophobic since each and every Muslim by definition is the mortal ENEMY of all none Muslims

    Containment is the cheapest, best and in fact the ONLY solution to the existential threat Muslims pose to humanity

    Sooner than later, as more and more Europeans, Americans and others are mass murdered by Muslims, these laws and regulations will have to be imposed and implemented to save our countries and peoples from the scourge of Islam

    IQ al Rassooli
    Kafir & Proud!

    • vivienne Leijonhufvu (@goldaleijonhufv) says

      Jul 21, 2016 at 5:32 am

      You would have believed our governments would have seen this before importing these barbarians to our shores! The UK has been at it since the death of Churchill, France since before WWII and Germany was complicit with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem in WWII in the slaughter of the Jewish people. France Germany and UK all believed they could treat these barbarians like ‘natives’ Churchill was a lot smarter, he knew what made them tick were he here today the Muslim barbarians would not be. As for the guy who bought OIL from the middle east for £275,000.00 back at the beginning of the 20th century underestimated the greed of these savage barbarians and here we are today having to take the crap they throw at us because of the arrogance of the few.

    • mortimer says

      Jul 21, 2016 at 9:30 am

      Rassooli wrote: “Containment is the cheapest, best and in fact the ONLY solution to the existential threat Muslims pose to humanity”

      Mostly agree. Governments can reduce the time Islam survives by deprogramming Muslims through ideological warfare.

      • Western Canadian says

        Jul 22, 2016 at 5:55 pm

        Except…. containment of the soviet union was an abject failure. The cold war ended when containment was rejected, and specific actions taken against the soviets. The source for this article, is very over rated….. He blew even that very fundamental fact.

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 22, 2016 at 6:39 pm

        Mortimer wrote:

        Governments can reduce the time Islam survives by deprogramming Muslims through ideological warfare.
        …………………..

        Mortimer, you continue to flog this idea. But when have Infidels *ever* been able to “deprogram” Muslims?

        I believe telling the truth about the threat of Islam mostly serves to educate Infidels about the Jihad threat, and in that way it is invaluable. But as for “deprogramming” Muslims? It has never worked.

  3. islam the religion of killers says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 5:45 am

    The only way to save the free world is respective governments should change their laws ,, when a terrorist action is imposed, the perpetrator, the Imam and the close family members should be expelled to their countries of origin, without passports or citizenship..

    Imams will have to cease hate preaching & families will have to expose wayward sons & daughters.

    Level the mosk, let every “moderate muslim” know the west means business and the only way to save their precious mosk is to accept our values and to help fight Islamic killers.

    Reality is tough for everyone, we all have to accept life, muslims have to accept Islam isn’t going to rule the world ….

  4. Angemon says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 6:30 am

    The only effective alternative government to the repressive and barbaric code of Shariah is the only form that has ever worked in the Islamic world, namely, quasi-secular dictatorship.

    (…)

    Even “enlightened” Turkey, which has teetered along as a nominal democracy since the draconian reforms of Ataturk, is at least two parts dictatorship, as current President Recep Tayyip Erdogan seems intent on proving on a regular basis.

    If I wanted to nitpick, I wouldn’t describe Turkey as “quasi-secular”. I’d describe it as running on the fumes of nearly 100-year-old reforms with Erdogan working to get rid of them ASAP. A dictator Erdogan may be, but certainly not secular.

  5. GroverMax says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 6:33 am

    Anyone that’s read US history knows the Muslims were attacking our Nation before the ink was dry on our new Constitution! Then, as now, we tried appeasement first and it only made matters worse. Once we took the gloves off, forming the US Navy and the US Marines, we managed to teach them a lesson that kept them from bothering us for over 200 years.
    Those who fail to learn history are truly doomed to repeat it?

    • Nigel GFF says

      Jul 21, 2016 at 2:40 pm

      “From the Halls of Montezuma To the Shores of Tripoli…….”

      Semper Fi ……

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 22, 2016 at 7:05 pm

      Yes–when we started fighting back against the Barbary Pirates, we inspired Britain and France to do so, as well. When we were finished, the whole of the Mediterranean was fully open from free trade for the first time in a *thousand years*. We have a brave legacy to inspire us.

  6. Rob says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 7:17 am

    Liberal Islamic groups in the US complain that when Barry wants to reach out to Muslims he goes to the strictly observant mosques and ignores them.
    Remember we reach the author’s conclusions by trying and failing at the other options – assimilation and multiculturalism.
    It is not as if (as the left would have us believe) our first position.
    Mubarak said when asked about his dictatorship: ‘If I didn’t tell Egyptians what to do, they would simply take their instructions from the mosques’

  7. mortimer says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 8:41 am

    Robert Spencer correctly observes: “The reason the Islamic world breeds strongmen like Saddam Hussein, Moammar Gadhafi, Hosni Mubarak, Bashar al-Assad, etc., is because they are the only types of leaders capable of lending order to what is a fundamentally CHAOTIC and BRUTAL culture…”

    Indeed. Islamic culture is chaotic because Sharia law contains the provision that individual Muslims may take the law into their own hands under certain conditions: 1) revenge killing 2) honor killing 3) murder of an apostate 4) murder of a blasphemer.

    If there were not a dictator at the helm of Muslim countries, revenge killings would rip them apart on a daily basis and turn into unending vendettas…that is what in fact occurs but it is somewhat muted by the dictators until they also become victims of revenge.

    • Nigel GFF says

      Jul 21, 2016 at 3:07 pm

      This excellent article written by G. M. Davis

  8. Kay says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 9:48 am

    These ideas bring a breath of hope.

    What is the best way to get them to our government? To get them seriously considered?

  9. Kay says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 9:56 am

    More confusing statistics. 43 were born in UK. 18 abuses performed in UK.

    But this abuse is illegal. Are the perpetrators prosecuted?

    • Kay says

      Jul 21, 2016 at 9:58 am

      Oops. This comment was supposed to go under genital mutilation.

      • WorkingClassPost says

        Jul 21, 2016 at 10:35 am

        Don’t worry, you were right first time,

        When you ask: is this illegal, and why aren’t they prosecuted; you could file that under any post about islam.

  10. linnte says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 10:59 am

    The West needs to get our fingers out of the Middle Eastern pie! Let them fend for themselves. Why are people so afraid of losing OIL contracts, when the OIC needs customers like the West?

    And yes! Containment is the only answer. But I’d like to see it go a step further. There are many many Muslims who have immigrated here and who still hold dual citizenship. Toss those back to their country if origin, then ban Islamic Ideology. If Muslim American citizens refuse to follow this edict give them a choice- pick a country, any country that has Shari’a to go live in, or be monitored night and day. No emigrating to non Muslim countries!

  11. linnte says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 11:02 am

    And somehow, it needs to be shown clearly that Islam IS A Political ideology to the American public. TV ads to teach about this. Educational documentaries too. If not, the left will incite Civil War.

    • Guest says

      Jul 21, 2016 at 9:56 pm

      Yes, this really is the key: recognizing that it is a political ideology that does not gel with our most important values.

  12. John Marst says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 11:04 am

    What is it about Leftists? The root of the delusion seems to be that all cultures and religious beliefs, though different, are essentially equal and thus should be afforded equal respect. Islam is neither better nor worse than Christianity or Buddhism or even atheism when theologically the gulf is vast and unbridgeable.

    The delusion is compounded by the perception that Islam is mainly a religion of brown people — and God forbid any criticism should be leveled at non-whites by people of Western societies.

    The result is an impenetrable mental fog. So the motives of a young man screaming Allahu Akbar, hacking children to death and being embraced by the Islamic State cannot be known. “Who can understand such things?” deluded clerics and politicians wonder. “It is simply a mystery.” The answer lies with better jobs or greater understanding or trauma therapy – anything except acknowledging the basic truth about Islam.

    Thus, the deluded souls of the Left will take their chances with the holy warriors of Islamic Jihad, who are sanctioned by their psychopathic deity to mete out the worst of which humans are capable.

    Perhaps it’s a perverse blessing that the Left will remain asleep even as its collective throat is being cut.

    • Guest says

      Jul 21, 2016 at 10:01 pm

      ‘“Who can understand such things?” deluded clerics and politicians wonder.’

      Mainstream media comments sections are showing me that many average people can understand it now. I read a lot of German articles, too, and Germans are really waking up. People being attacked by so-called refugees who are actually illegal immigrants from safe countries is not how even the most liberal and equal-minded freedom lovers imagined their generosity being repaid.

  13. berserker says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 11:19 am

    What is truly galling is that we live in a time where historical texts as well as the source texts of Islamic doctrine along with commentaries on them are available for free online. Yet all those who scream ‘Islamophobia’ appear not to have examined these texts for themselves. It is the lack of curiosity that is truly troubling.

    • Guest says

      Jul 21, 2016 at 10:06 pm

      Yes. I think I can explain that: a lot of us were brought up as atheists and leftists, with a belief that society was moving away from religion (which with regard to Christianity is what happened). Islam came out of the blue for many of us: what, some people actually still take religion this seriously?

      Quite a few atheists and leftists have caught on to the threat, but as you say, many haven’t.

  14. Linde Barrera says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 1:20 pm

    Excellent article, and thank you for it. As the DJ’s would say: “The hits just keep on comin’…” (with JihadWatch.Org that is) I love this website. ❤❤❤❤

  15. Richard Paulsen says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 1:37 pm

    No refugees. Those really in need of leaving islamic countries have no chance. The girls and women oppressed and without any chance to leave.
    Only a few women coming and only following islam and a muslim male relative.
    A woman trying to leave an islamic country alone will be stoned if caught, which she most probably will be.

  16. Bella -Kaffur and Proud says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 2:47 pm

    The reason nothing is being done about the huge influx of barely vetted moslems is because the elites derive their money from rich oil countries and really don’t care who they rule over.

  17. Kepha says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 4:20 pm

    Sigh, Multiculturalism. How I wish the term had not been appropriated by anti-cultural neo-barbarians. Yes, I fancy myself an American patriot, and am proud of my service to my country (albeit as a diplomat rather than a military man). In my own family, I must deal with Jewish, Northern European, and Chinese heritage, and read a number of languages besides English.

    As for Muslim Americans, I winced at Donnie-the-primary-candidate’s apparent advocacy of deporting the lot; even if I agree we should watch out more diligently for likely terrorists, and certainly do not approve of our boneless chicken leadership giving Islam such a public platform. We’ve got people who are “Muslim” by heritage alone, and I’ve noted that people like Rifka Bary who turn Christian (or something other than Muslim) are more common among immigrant populations than the media would like us to think. We also have pork-abstainers who have served our country well in many areas. I’m not surprised at the Pakistani-origin guy who gave a Muslim invocation at the RNC. Lots of South Asian and Middle Eastern Muslim immigrants greatly appreciate what they have here–and I’m sure The Donald would love to show up the MSM [un-]wise men who are so quick to sshout “racist!” or ‘bigot”!.

    A big issue is how far our leadership will respect the First Amendment rights of those of us who dissent from their line–which is a major reason why I dread the prospect of a Shrillary Shrooooooooo presidency. The Jackass Party seems all too willing to bring the heavy hand of the state down on anyone who is at all critical of them or their clients (as their pressing the LGBT agenda shows).

    Yes, the boneless chickens need to go. It’s why I’ll vote for a guy who rates a 2 on a scale of 1-10 over that man-woman-b**ch-goddess who rates a negative nine on the same scale.

    • Guest says

      Jul 21, 2016 at 10:23 pm

      Kepha, I’m also upset that the term has been appropriated by an ideology that would destroy multiculturalism if we were under its rule.

      New Zealand tries to do a good job of multiculturalism: basic laws for our equal rights, Treaty of Waitangi to try and be fair to the indigenous people after colonial injustices, immigration points-system to get immigrants who speak English and can really contribute to our country. People from China and Korea absolutely excel in the sciences and western music, while also contributing fantastic cuisine and their fabulous arts (e.g. the Chinese lantern festival).

      It can work and it can be great, but you need basic laws for equality, not an ideology that gives muslim males all the power and oppresses everyone else.

  18. Herb Planter says

    Jul 22, 2016 at 3:02 am

    Someone plz pass this article on to Obama or the EU etc.thx.

  19. Champ says

    Jul 22, 2016 at 3:27 am

    And there’s a certain amount of “normalcy bias” at play, too …

  20. Krag says

    Jul 22, 2016 at 4:15 am

    Quid pro quo.
    No immigration unless and until islamic
    Countries agree to immigration into theirs.
    And publish this policy publicly in all countries.
    And yes the UN needs to re-think the purpose of migration in the light of muslim
    Ideology.
    This should stir things up.

  21. common sense says

    Jul 22, 2016 at 3:33 pm

    Scary picture. If we re wrote the Koran to our benefit as much as Islam has to theirs would they be as accepting as the brainless mass in the above picture? Nope. How about I start calling every Muslim an infidel? They laugh at us and shove murder in our face while raping women and children. Containment would be a nice start but it has to be more profitable than whatever the elite policy makers are getting out of “multi culturalism” BS. Which is the biggest problem other than jihadi violence and manipulation.

    When the leftist Communists want our opinion they tend to give it to us via media outlets, resisting it is Islamophobic, bigotry and racism.
    Attempts to derail the 2nd amendment are to destroy the 1st amendment.
    If one person in Nice had a hand gun ccw many lives would have been saved and almost as importantly would have showed strength and resistance to these barbarians. Try that in Texas or any other open carry state. They never do.
    I’d like Islam dissolved from the US completely at this point there can be no coexistence.

  22. gravenimage says

    Jul 22, 2016 at 3:57 pm

    Answer to jihad challenge isn’t “the gutless multiculturalism of Western elites”
    ………………………….

    *Excellent* article from Robert Spencer.

    I have long said that Dar-al-Harb was safest from Islam from about 1800 to about fifty years ago. What was notable about this period is that we actively fought Jihad incursions like attacks from the Barbary Pirates, and then *isolated* the Muslim world as much as possible.

    That should *definitely* be our model today. The very first step should be cutting off the flood of Muslim migrants into the West.

  23. DP111 says

    Jul 22, 2016 at 5:00 pm

    The only way is separation from Islam, before Muslims become so numerous that they take over the West using the vote. This held true ever before 9/11.Igf 9/11 hadn’t happened, then we would have walked slowly and surely tro an Islka ic West.
    The question is how, without appearing bigots, or zealots. One way is to continue the way Blair and Bush began, with the inevitable terrorist reaction from Muslims living in the West. This will lead to a continuous ratcheting up of the war, till the opposing sides migrate to their own side.
    I note that France has already stated that it will continue the war against ISIS.
    Clearly this has been the policy since 9/11. It may well turn out, in this long and deceitful war, that Bush and Blair turn out to be correct.
    The “exit” plan is that the West ends up in a state of total war with the Islamic world. That is, it is a plan to get into a total war, then militarily defeat the forming caliphate. I noted the reluctance of USA and NATO to snip the budding caliphate. They are still reluctant. The plan is that if we militarily defeat a full fledged caliphate, then Islam will be defeated politically and “spiritually”. This is true enough, as Islam is not a spiritual religion, but a militaristic political ideology, reliant on continued expansion.
    The problem for the USA and the West since 9/11, is that they couldn’t pin the blame for 9/11 ( akin to the attack on Pearl Harbour), on any state actor. The attack was inspired by Islam true enough, but how to pin it on the whole political Islamic world, that was the question. So attempts to provoke all Islamic countries by invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. Then de-stabilising Syria, Yemen and Pakistan, with the same objective. It has failed so far, but what has not failed, is that Muslims living in the West, have attacked the West from within. This too is gist to separating the Islamic world from the West. In that sense it is working.
    We have a long way to go.
    Not my words, but words that slipped from Pres Bush, when he stated something like “that the new Crusades will take atleast 50 years”.
    Note that America supported the Muslim Brotherhood takeover of Egypt, while it ditched a long term ally – Mubarak. The West also brought down Gaddaffi, even though he was cooperating with everything that America wanted,and then let ISIS lookalikes take over.
    The US and Britain were/are keen to destabilise Syria so that it too becomes part of ISIS caliphate, along with the Muslim Brotherhood Egypt. The coup in Egypt and Russia’s support of Assad was not in the game plan. That is why both were initially condemned by America and Britain.
    The US is now reluctantly going along with Russia, but “Assad must go” is still a policy. They are now going along with Russia, hoping that Putin will join in the game plan.
    The game plan of total war with the Islamic world still remains. It is like the Cold war policy, that too lasted a long time, till the destruction of the Warsaw pact.
    I believe this is what we are in for . A long Cold war with the Islamic world, with an attempt to encourage the formation of a “Warsaw” like pact in the Islamic world – the caliphate. Followed by embargo of all goods and people from the Islamic caliphate. No more immigration from the Islamic world, not even students. Just as we did to the Warsaw pact. To this end, add continuous military interdictions, and exploitation of fissures in the caliphate etc…… This will bring about severe economic difficulty in the Islamic world, even starvation, just as it did in Russia.
    The Islamic world will collapse along with Islam, as Islam is a political ideology. Unlike Christianity which is spiritual, it will be unable to withstand defeat after defeat and physical privation. bin Laden knew his people. They will always back the stronger horse.

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