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DC: “Muslims Against ISIS” rally attracts only “small crowd”

Jul 24, 2016 9:44 am By Robert Spencer

This is not the first time that attendance at a Muslim rally against terrorism has been decidedly underwhelming. There are thousands of Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan, but only 100 showed up for a rally against ISIS and “Islamophobia” in November 2015. And earlier that month, only 30 Muslims protested against the jihad massacres in Paris. In July 2015, a Muslim rally in Ireland against the Islamic State drew fifty people. In October 2014 in Houston, a rally against the Islamic State organized by the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) drew the grand total of ten people. In August 2013 in Boston, about 25 Muslims rallied against “misperceptions” that Islam was violent. About the same number showed up in June 2013 at a progressive Muslim rally in Toronto to claim that their religion had been “hijacked.”

And back in 2005, a group called the Free Muslims Coalition held what it dubbed a “Free Muslims March Against Terror,” intending to “send a message to the terrorists and extremists that their days are numbered … and to send a message to the people of the Middle East, the Muslim world and all people who seek freedom, democracy and peaceful coexistence that we support them.” In the run-up to the event it got enthusiastic national and international publicity, but it ended up drawing about twenty-five people.

Contrast those paltry showings to the thousands of Muslims who have turned out for rallies against cartoons of Muhammad or against Israel. Here are some headlines from the aftermath of the Charlie Hebdo jihad massacre of Muhammad cartoonists in January 2015:

Chechnya: 800,000 Muslims protest Muhammad cartoons; protests also in Iran, Pakistan, Ingushetia, elsewhere

Pakistan: 10,000 Muslims protest against Charlie Hebdo’s Muhammad cartoons

Australia: 1,000 Muslims rally against Charlie Hebdo and the freedom of speech

Kyrgyztsan: 1,000 Muslims rally: “I am not Charlie, I love my Prophet.”

But given a chance to show how Muslims overwhelmingly reject “extremism,” only a handful show up. Yes, it was hot in Washington. But this is a pattern.

Muslims Against ISIS rally

“Muslims hold interfaith rally on National Mall,” by Dick Uliano, WTOP, July 23, 2016 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

WASHINGTON — Temperatures climbing high into the 90s forced organizers to convert a midday march into an evening rally on the National Mall. But the rallying point remained the same: condemn terrorism, hate and violence.

The rally was scheduled from 5 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. on Saturday, The Associated Press reported, and organizers had initially planned the rally earlier in the day, but changed the time because of the oppressive heat.

Some people in the small crowd carried signs that read “Muslims Against ISIS” and “No Racism, No Hate.” Attendees said the atrocious attacks of global terrorism have given Americans the wrong impression of Islam and it was important to speak out.

“We’re just like every other American and we’re not here to apologize for anything but here to explain this is our religion … a religion of tolerance, peace, ethics,” said Abduel Hussein, 16, of Fairfax, Vrginia [sic], and a Boy Scout from the All Dulles Area Muslim Society Center and a student at Woodson High School.

People at the rally listened to speeches, prayers and music.

“It’s always been said that Muslim never speaks, so this is a great opportunity for people to hear that we’re speaking out against terrorism, against violence,” said Imam Ali Siddiqui of the Islamic Center of Northern Virginia, alluding to the sometimes heard criticism that Muslim leaders don’t sufficiently condemn terror attacks.

Christian, Jewish, Sikh and Buddhist faith leaders also took part in the rally.

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  1. The Vilest of Creatures says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 9:51 am

    and yet apologists like to point out that Muslims ARE speaking out against Islamic Jihadist attacks.

    • Gary says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 10:44 am

      Oh they’re speaking out alright. Their silence is DEAFENING!!

      Islam: You can check out, but neeeeveeeer leave.

      Honor killings: Alive and well in the religion originated by Satan. piss off allah!

      • SChamp says

        Jul 24, 2016 at 4:10 pm

        “Oh they’re speaking out alright. Their silence is DEAFENING!!”

        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        Indeed, Gary, their silence *is* deafening! And the small numbers don’t lie, either. Why the “small crowd”? Really says a lot, too.

        • Champ says

          Jul 24, 2016 at 4:11 pm

          oops: no “S” next to me name, lol! 😀

        • Johan says

          Jul 25, 2016 at 4:35 am

          Be aware of the insidiousness of Dogma Islam.
          Only a huindred p[eople but they risk their lives over challenging Islam, ‘God’s’ commands.

          We don’t have a hope without muslims waking up and respecting human rights over so called God’s commands.Hatred of Infidels, Jews, Gays, Women, self respect.
          Our common enemy is this mentally deranged theology of Islam and muslims are trapped in it’s death adoring madness.

          Any other culture would see that their history and pride have been crushed by this Arab colonialism and fight to throw off this sick religion, worshipping a Hillary Doll is even better than that.
          And hey that would be fully sick.eh!

        • Jack Diamond says

          Jul 25, 2016 at 11:23 am

          How were they “challenging Islam”? Since they claim Islam has nothing to do with what they were protesting? They were protesting “Islamophobia” as much as terrorism and claiming Muslims are the real victims of terrorism. Really, they are risking their lives??? Maybe from heat-stroke.

          We don’t need Muslims to wake up, or there is no hope; we just need to wake ourselves up.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 25, 2016 at 5:14 pm

          Johan wrote:

          We don’t have a hope without muslims waking up and respecting human rights over so called God’s commands.Hatred of Infidels, Jews, Gays, Women, self respect.
          ………………………………

          Actually, this is not the case, Johan. We have beaten back Islam before–isolation and containment historically work best.

          Muslims have *never* respected human rights–and how could they? Islam would not be Islam if it were not murderous and supremacist.

        • Champ says

          Jul 25, 2016 at 8:33 pm

          Excellent points from Jack Diamond and Gravenimage in response to Johan.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 28, 2016 at 12:21 pm

          Thanks, Champ.

    • JOHN SPIELMAN says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 10:53 am

      the SMALL numbers show that only nominal muslims are interested in a secular society and that the vast majority are in favor of islamofascist apartheid sharia law where supremacist muslims force all others into second class DHIMMI STATUS- without the rights of muslims (who are the best of people as muhammed would say) … or DEATH!

      • Gary says

        Jul 24, 2016 at 12:25 pm

        Which begs the question: Is Sharia Law compatible with the constitution?

        …..With liberty and justice for all.

        Wait?! Sharia Law!!!

        • John spielman says

          Jul 24, 2016 at 5:13 pm

          Hiltlery Clinton would say sharia is compatable with the US constitution but Tom Jefferson, Ben Franklin, George Washington, Abe Lincoln, Frank and Ted Roosevelt, Jack Kennedy, Ron Reagon, GW Bush Sr. Would disagree.

        • Jay Boo says

          Jul 24, 2016 at 7:22 pm

          @John spielman
          We are told by the MSM that:
          Donald Trump says (Outrageous) things.

          Obama and Hillary say much worse (Outrageous) things all the time.
          The MSM accept it as normal.

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 25, 2016 at 6:07 pm

        It’s actually worse than that, John–I would *not* assume that every Muslim who opposes ISIS is interested in a secular society.

        Some who oppose ISIS are Shia, whom Sunni ISIS regard as “heretics” and target for death. But Shi’ites, just as much as Sunnis, want to see Infidels forced to submit to Islam.

        Then there are quite a few Sunnis who have no disagreements with ISIS’s goals at all, but just think that someone else–themselves, perhaps–should be running that Caliphate.

        Opposing ISIS means little if they, as good Muslims, adhere to the same ideology that condones sex slavery, the imposition of brutal Shari’ah law, and mass murder.

    • Roxy says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 2:12 pm

      To all of those dhimmi dopes who think Islam is a religion of peace, don’t get too excited about Muslims claiming to be against ISIS. Just because they put on the anti-ISIS performance, IT DOES NOT MEAN that they are against terrorism. A brilliant statesman, PM Netanyahu, accurately said in his speech to Congress that “…the enemy of your enemy is your enemy.”

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 25, 2016 at 1:56 am

        True, Roxy.

    • Marwa says

      Jul 25, 2016 at 5:18 am

      It’s not my fault youre a sheep and eat up anything the media tells you. You want me to hold a sign up that says I hate ISIS. Ah yeah I support a group that wants to kill me that makes a lot of sense, and most of the Muslims in Michigan are Shia’a and if you know anything about this war you would know ISIS first targe are Shia’a Who do you think stopped Damascus from being taken over. Look in the international news and see the attacks ISIS is committing in the Mideast.

      • Jack Diamond says

        Jul 25, 2016 at 2:51 pm

        I’m glad you hate ISIS and what they do.

        Do you equally hate jihad terror that is enabled or committed by Iran, Hizballah, or Hamas
        (Hamas which until recently was funded, armed and trained by Iran)? Or are they the good guys?

        Yes, we expect more than just condemning ISIS and just condemning them because they target Shi’a, as well as non-Muslims. Like condemning Islam’s call to jihad against non-Muslims and their ultimate death or subjugation under Islamic rule. Not just the normal business of a Muslim, defending Islam and exonerating Islam to the last breath, but speaking to the core texts and teachings of Islam where all this originates, teachings wholly incompatible with free societies and their continued existence.

        As opposed to, say, blaming it all on “Islamophobia.”

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 25, 2016 at 6:36 pm

        Marwa wrote:

        It’s not my fault youre (sic) a sheep and eat up anything the media tells you. You want me to hold a sign up that says I hate ISIS. Ah yeah I support a group that wants to kill me that makes a lot of sense, and most of the Muslims in Michigan are Shia’a and if you know anything about this war you would know ISIS first targe (sic) are Shia’a…
        ……………………..

        The claim that most Muslims in Michigan are Shi’ites is pretty questionable, since most Muslims there are ethnically Arab, who are majority-Sunni, but let’s go with it–the problem is that this rally was held in Washington DC, not in Michigan.

        The implication that the attendance at this rally was so tiny because it should be simply assumed that all Muslims in the US hate ISIS and should not have to prove it makes no sense. The estimated percentage of Shia among Muslims in the US is less than one quarter.

        The fact is that quite a few Sunni Muslims in the US have run off to join the Islamic State.

        And more than this, I would ask the sneering Marwa the same types of questions Jack Diamond does: does she hate ISIS enslaving and murdering Infidels–or does she just object when the victims are her fellow Shi’ites? Does she oppose Jihad when it is waged by Shi’ite Muslims, as with Hizb’allah’s violence against Jews? Does she oppose the imposition of Shari’ah, with hanging gay people and stoning women to death, as is done in Shia Iran? Until we know the answer to these questions, her opposition to ISIS itself means little.

      • Angemon says

        Jul 26, 2016 at 11:45 am

        Marwa posted:

        “if you know anything about this war you would know ISIS first targe are Shia’a ”

        Are shia and sunni teachings different when it comes to non-believers? Does shia islam teaches that non-muslims are equal to muslims, are not to be subjugated, humiliated or killed, and are to have the same legal rights under the law?

  2. Mirren10 says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 9:53 am

    “It’s always been said that Muslim never speaks, so this is a great opportunity for people to hear that we’re speaking out against terrorism, against violence,” said Imam Ali Siddiqui of the Islamic Center of Northern Virginia, alluding to the sometimes heard criticism that Muslim leaders don’t sufficiently condemn terror attacks.”

    Well, they don’t, do they ? Which is why people with any sense know that they don’t actually condemn them at all.

    Compare *that* ‘turnout’ with the thousands who rally because their foul ‘prophet’ has been lampooned, or because someone, somewhere, burned a koran. Loathsome, foul hypocrites that they are.

    https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M40bfe96d19acabf71fb256b6643d81a8o0&w=300&h=180&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0&r=0

    • Robert Crawford says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 11:54 am

      Isn’t that Islamic Center one of those places that has had multiple people tied to terror attacks and groups?

      • Mirren10 says

        Jul 24, 2016 at 12:03 pm

        I think so. But this can be said of *any* mosque, anywhere.

    • Champ says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 4:04 pm

      Indeed–great comment, Mirren10! 🙂

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 25, 2016 at 1:58 am

      Exactly, Mirren–Muslims come out in *hordes* to support Jihad and Shari’ah–to oppose it, not so much.

  3. Angemon says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 10:00 am

    Christian, Jewish, Sikh and Buddhist faith leaders also took part in the rally.

    I wonder if members of their flocks also participated in the rally.

    • Keith says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 10:51 am

      It makes you wonder exactly how many of that pathetically small crowd were actually muslms doesn’t it.

    • Hindu American says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 3:02 pm

      All I count are maybe 50 people. By the sound of it, it seems it was too hot (excuse me!!) to protest against ISIS but not to hot to vomit out the usual BS like “No Racism, No Hate”, “We’re just like every other American and we’re not here to apologize for anything” and the best of the lot, “our religion … a religion of tolerance, peace, ethics”. Excuse me while I choke.

      Take that, you hate mongers. Who says moderate muslims don’t speak out against….er…true muslims?

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 25, 2016 at 2:00 am

      I wonder how many participants in this “Muslim rally” were actually Infidels, then?

  4. JIMJFOX says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 10:03 am

    As far as I can see, one or two headbags, not a single burka and the majority look like non-Muslims;
    bare legs, shorts and western dress styles. Highly unconvincing.

    • biff says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 10:29 am

      Muslims against ISIS?

      That’s funny shit.

      All 10 of them.

      Muslim peace means we are all indoctrinated, or dead.

  5. linnte says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 10:03 am

    It’s a joke. No Imam in his right Islamic mind would allow his Mosque to become apostates!

    • Annak says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 10:27 am

      For sure, one huge deception. Musiims cannot be against ISIS as ISIS are true Muslims. We know it, Muslims know it and they wouldn’t dare be seen in public en masse denouncing their precious prophet/moon god.

      Only deluded leftists and members of other faiths taken in by taqiyya , don’t know it

  6. Isabellathecrusader says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 10:07 am

    Yes, this is probably the correct ratio, 10-25 who say they hate terrorism to several millions who believe in their absolute right to use it to oppress us.

  7. Norger says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 10:08 am

    Several states possible explanations, none of them good:(1) many Muslims in fact support ISIS et al, or are not opposed to it; (2) Muslims are largely indifferent to terrorism; or (3) Muslims who are opposed to Islamic terror are afraid to speak out.

    Wonder how many would have turned up at a rally to protest a Koran burning?

    • Mike says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 10:14 am

      Norger: it’s like a mixture of your three explanations. I suspect that (2) and (3) account for the majority (hey, I’m the “token leftist” around here!), but in many ways, it doesn’t matter WHY they don’t turn out, it only matters that they don’t turn out, and leave the field open for the extremists. People who don’t get involved don’t count, essentially.

      • mortimer says

        Jul 24, 2016 at 10:30 am

        Mike, it MATTERS why they don’t turn out. They actually are in favor of the goals of ISIS. Most Muslims consider you their enemy. Their life-long goal is to enslave you.

      • Mirren10 says

        Jul 24, 2016 at 11:00 am

        ” … in many ways, it doesn’t matter WHY they don’t turn out, it only matters that they don’t turn out, and leave the field open for the extremists.”

        Oh yes, it *does* matter. Unicorn ‘moderate muslims’ (those not *actively* committing jihad)provide shelter, propaganda, and protection for the actual murdering jihadists. Look what happened in Molenbeek.

        As for your ‘extremists’, I suggest you look up what ”fard ayn”, and ”fard kafaayah” mean.

        • mortimer says

          Jul 24, 2016 at 2:05 pm

          Forgive me for repeating: “IT’S THE IDEOLOGY, STUPID!”

          Islam is an IDEOLOGY of world conquest. Allah commissioned the Arabs to take over and rule the world.

          Muslims, who do nothing to take over the world through jihad, are ‘bad’ Muslims…disobeying Allah’s divine commission!

          Muslims who speak out against JIHAD are considered ‘bad’ Muslims who have left Islam.

          THAT IS WHY they do not protest JIHAD.

        • Westman says

          Jul 24, 2016 at 3:31 pm

          “A fard kifaya (collective duty) is an act that is obligatory for the Muslim community collectively – if it is sufficiently carried out by some members of the Muslim community, then other Muslims do not have to perform it; but if nobody takes it upon himself or herself to perform the act on behalf of the community, then all Muslims have failed (and will be punished). ”

          Love it – not only is Allah a sadistic torturer, he’s going to punish you for the inactivity of another person. This is so clear as a false teaching of Muhammad to ensure that he could get someone to fight his chosen battles, regardless of the community’s situation.

        • Mirren10 says

          Jul 24, 2016 at 4:43 pm

          ”Love it – not only is Allah a sadistic torturer, he’s going to punish you for the inactivity of another person. ”

          Yep. That’s dear old ‘allah’, the ”merciful, the compassionate”. Blech.

  8. mortimer says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 10:29 am

    The silent majority of Muslims wants the same 2 things as ISIS: strict Sharia law and a caliphate.

    There is little difference between the silent majority of Muslims and ISIS except for their level of commitment. Most Muslims are shallow in their commitment, but they want Islamic supremacism none the less.

    • خَليفة says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 2:21 pm

      …and those Muslims that do speak-out use taqqiya … So you can’t believe them !

      Satan is the father of lies, but he can tell the truth it he feels it suits HIS purpose.
      In speaking the truth or lying or being deceptive, Muslims are just like Satan – you can’t trust anything they say.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 25, 2016 at 6:44 pm

      Very true, Mortimer.

  9. Jack Diamond says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 10:29 am

    The DCW’s photo shows a similarly sparse turnout under the title “Hundreds rally” and the full headline:
    “Hundreds rally on National Mall condemning terrorism and ISLAMOPHOBIA”

    http://dcw50.com/2016/07/23/hundreds-rally-on-national-mall-condemning-terrorism-and-islamophobia/

    More Muslim victimology at work here, “Islamophobia” equated with “terrorism” as horrors, and Muslims claiming they are the REAL victims of terrorism, not the infidel. Behold, the innocence of Muslims, the innocence of Islam.

    “Muslim (sic) have a strong stand against violent extremism. That does not represent their religion, does not represent their community, and we as a community are first victim of violent extremism. Daesh, ISIS, Boko Haram, and everyone have killed many Muslims, more than anyone else,” said Imam Mohamed Magid of the All Dulles Area Muslim Society (ADAMS), one of the speakers at the event.

    And, of course, it is an “inter-faith” rally so there has to be this person:
    “It’s raising the level of awareness that there are people who are in solidarity with our Muslim brothers and sisters and that we care and that we will not sit by silently and let our neighbors by maligned in that way,” said Joan Bell-Haynes, Co-Pastor at the United Christian Parish in Reston, Va

    Another underwhelming Muslim rally against “terrorism” complete with gushing propaganda posing as a news article. Business as usual.

    • Keith says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 11:00 am

      As a previous commentor has said there do not seem to be too many Burquas in that photo or other dressed in Islamic clothing. If leaders of other religions were there how many of their followers came with them.
      They say there were several hundred people there but how many of them were muslims very few most likely.
      I agree with you when you say “Another underwhelming Muslim rally against “terrorism” complete with gushing poropaganda posing as a news article. Business as usual.” You hit the nail on the head with that last part of your comment.

  10. David says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 10:46 am

    Yes indeed! As the above wrote: peace will only come when the opposition to this Cult of Satan (islam) are either converted or murdered!
    Well Sir! I for one will NEVER CONVERT! I will never bow my knee to worship this muslim DEMON!
    And I thank God every day that (so far) our second amendment rights are still intact! As long as the lawful citizens has the right of self-defense, we, as a people can NEVER BE SUBJUGATED by these fiends!

  11. Jerry says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 10:56 am

    They got no problem assembling to riot and protest cartoons, but for terrorism they don’t have time. This is so revealing, when you have people who are more concerned about cartoons than human lives and suffering. But we’re supposed to believe that islam is peaceful and that muslims are against terrorism. But murderous hypersensitivity about cartoons and human rights don’t mix. Don’t tell us you care about islamic violence against infidels and then undermine our human rights protection with your violent views about cartoons. These mixed signals seem an awful lot like taqiyya. These “moderate” muslims need to realize that decent humanity does not have to tolerate their violent agenda against us. You can call your sham religion whatever you like, but evil with a pretty name is still evil.

    I want islam out of my country. It’s a fascist idea that is robbing America of its peace and freedoms. And it will only get worse if we don’t act to stop it.

  12. Hugh Fitzgerald says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 11:00 am

    I wandered lonely as a Muslim crowdlet….

    • Mirren10 says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 11:01 am

      🙂 🙂

      Nice one, Mr. Fitzgerald.

    • Angemon says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 1:54 pm

      XD

      • DFD says

        Jul 24, 2016 at 3:29 pm

        Watch these:

        David Wodd in women’s underwear, impersonating ‘the best of men’; title:
        David Wood, Following Sunnah, Fi SabilAllah!
        Link: https://youtu.be/FELmAJN16X8

        Next: After the Würzburg massacre a couple of German comedians made a satire clip, how to defend themselves in a politically correct manner. A video showing the “right” approach. Title: “That’s how the police…against axt attacks” It’s about or rather in response to the comments by an idiotic left wing politician. It’s in German, translation unnecessary, except where the ‘cop’ hands his gun to the attacker, the word here is ‘vertrauen’ meaning ‘trust’. I hope it speaks for itself, pictures are supposed to be worth a thousand words. If not, sorry, but you wont lose more than 1.5 minutes, so I hope you, and others, will enjoy this one too. (Sorry for the lousy grammar, I am terribly busy at this point in time)

        Link: https://youtu.be/f37oOaW4ZFA

        • Angemon says

          Jul 24, 2016 at 5:04 pm

          Ha ha, already knew the David Wood one. The other would be brilliant satire if not for hard-lefters actually believing that’s how things would go 🙂

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 28, 2016 at 12:47 pm

          Thanks for the links, DFD.

          David Wood is more dignified in a too-small woman’s teddy than any of these Shari’ah-patrol wankers could ever be. Hilarious video. (and kudos to his wife for lending her lingerie to the cause)

          And the German-language video is grimly hilarious, as well. I do speak some German, so I just watched it with the sound turned down the first time–it does indeed speak for itself in any language. My favorite bit was the policeman reacting to an ax attack by giving the Jihadist a nice big hug.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 25, 2016 at 2:05 am

      Brilliant, Hugh.

  13. John Magne Trane says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 11:08 am

    And after 3000 Moslems in Oslo, cheered on a speaker promising a 911 in Norway, the following protest “demonstration” gathered a total of 7 moderate Moslems. This after the mosque had sent out people, warning other Moslems of showing up for the the anti-demo.

    It tells you the support the murderers of islam enjoy.

  14. BARBARA BROOKS says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 11:09 am

    Many Indian Muslims have come out against extremism, despite the presence of some violent groups. I would say 70,000 is a good turnout! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/muslim-clerics-condemn-terrorism_us_566adfa1e4b009377b249dea
    Maybe they haven’t received as much Saudi money as other countries . . .

    • Jack Diamond says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 11:30 am

      Did they come out against Jihad and the teachings of Jihad (Islam) or against Shari’a and its teachings (Islam) or find anything in Islam to change, or did they come out to proclaim there was no Islam to be found in this “extremism” and to proclaim the innocence of Islam and the innocence of Muslims?

      The subheadline is “Religious leaders are emphasizing that they don’t consider terrorists to be true Muslims.” That is their message. What is their other message?

      “This terror group has killed far more Muslims than Christians, westerners or any other religious community,” said Maulana Qasim Nomani, a seminary leader. Muslims are the real victims here.

      Real Islam is peace:
      “It is written in the Quran that killing one innocent person is equivalent to killing all humanity,” said Mohammed Ehsan Raza Khan, repeating the same nonsense apologists always blather to the clueless.

      and, finally, self-defense by infidels is what really cultivates “hatred”:
      “Clerics also condemned Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump for proposing an immigration and travel ban on Muslims coming to the U.S. earlier this week. This kind of policy would “only cultivate hatred and divide people,” one cleric said.”

      Less than meets the eye.

      • Mirren10 says

        Jul 24, 2016 at 11:54 am

        ”Less than meets the eye.”

        Well put, Jack.

      • Jaladhi says

        Jul 24, 2016 at 3:55 pm

        Do they ever say that its also in Quran – smite the neck of infidels. I wonder what category it falls in – no doubt under the peaceful verses!! LOL…

        • Jack Diamond says

          Jul 24, 2016 at 5:05 pm

          Did I miss the 70,000 clerics declaring takfir on specific jihadists? Didn’t think so.

          Q: Why won’t sharks attack muslim clerics?
          A: Professional courtesy.

          Q: What do you call 70,000 dead muslim clerics at the bottom of the ocean?
          A: A good start!

          Q: What’s the difference between a carp and a muslim cleric?
          A: One’s a scum-sucking bottom dweller, and the other’s a fish.

          Q: Why won’t sharks attack muslim clerics?
          A: Professional courtesy.

          Q: What is a terrorist muslim cleric?
          A: Redundant.

          Q: Why don’t snakes bite muslim clerics?
          A: Professional courtesy.

    • Jaladhi says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 4:00 pm

      70,000 Muslim clerics – God how many clerics they need per Muslim to keep him in control?? This report and petition are meaningless since Muslims are liars and they will do anything to defend their ROP. Muslims and truth don’t mix!!

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 25, 2016 at 2:14 am

      Barbara, if you read the article, you can see that what these Muslims actually object to is ISIS killing other Muslims.

      Actually, Takfir–declaring other Muslims apostate or essentially “non-Muslim” so that they are Halal for slaughter, just like Infidels, is orthodox Islam–the only matter that Muslims often disagree on is *which* Muslims should fall into this category.

      Some Muslims disagree with ISIS on these specifics–but *very few* disagree with the concept, or with the idea of forming a Caliphate run by Shari’ah law, or that Infidels are always fair game.

  15. the Oracle says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 12:15 pm

    Only 100 was what Mohommad started with when he immigrated to Medina. It always starts with immigration (See Bill Warner’s lecture on Political Islam on YouTube).

  16. Hwilsongoon says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 12:21 pm

    Pathethic turn out.

    Didnt the supramacist muslim prayer demonstration in washington bring in thousands of muslims openly praying?

    And they wonder why we cannot trust them???

  17. davej says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 12:48 pm

    Rank and file Muslims are kept in line by the well known punishments for apostasy or indeed any criticism of Islam = Death.

    Very similar to organized crime gangs – you rat us out we kill you.

    Islam is the Mafia, Mohammed was the Grandfather. Pure oppression and exploitation of human values.

    • Jaladhi says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 3:48 pm

      The imams are the SS agents who keep all Muslims under control by any means!!

  18. Ashley says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 12:52 pm

    I’m sure the few that did show up were on a recon mission…

  19. Sam Hawkins says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 1:05 pm

    Off topic / Breaking News

    Reutlingen (southwest Germany), this afternoon:

    21-year-old asylum claimant from Syria goes on rampage with machete, kills one woman, injures two people. Was already known to police for criminal violence.

    • R Cole says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 1:23 pm

      Another attack – Syrian migrant kills one – injurers others in Germany!!

      Police: – he ‘acted alone’… ‘no danger to anyone else’… ‘at this time.’

      ::

      This asylum-seeking Syrian man had been involved in previous incidents causing injuries to other people, he said.

      And this is exactly how Merkel manages to keep the crime figures low – most migrant crimes are being ignored. Even with the New Year’s Cologne assault – the majority of the assailants were detained for a brief period then released – within hours.

      This man was released only to finally kill someone!!

      • WorkingClassPost says

        Jul 24, 2016 at 2:26 pm

        What a relief.

        At first I thought this was something to do with islam.

        • Jaladhi says

          Jul 24, 2016 at 3:52 pm

          I know you say it with sarcasm but there is some truth in it – its a relief to all our leaders, MSM and the Islamic apologists!! See we told you – there is nothing to see here – move on!!

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 25, 2016 at 6:51 pm

      And the victim was pregnant, as well.

      God, I hate Islam.

  20. jewdog says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 1:19 pm

    And you won’t find too many moonshiners at temperence rallies, vegetarians at hotdog eating contests, or oilmen at solar energy conferences. Islam is not about denouncing violence and promoting tolerance, despite any misleading propaganda one may hear. Rather, it derives its strength from a vision of the world founded on the superiority of its laws and beliefs and a violent contempt for anyone one refuses to conform to them.

  21. Jaladhi says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 1:24 pm

    I wonder why it was called an interfaith rally?? Muslims should have done it on their own and then you would seen just only the organizers and no regular Muslim in the rally. By doing it as an interfaith rally, the number of attendees increased but not to the level of areal rally. Ha, ha, ka,…

    • خَليفة says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 2:41 pm

      Muslim Supremacists like to have useful-idiot-lap-dogs ( dhimmis / future-slaves ) to do the work for them.

    • WorkingClassPost says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 2:47 pm

      Good point, for a muslim only rally, there’d probably only be the organizer and his dog.

      Whoops, sorry, no dogs of course.

      • Jaladhi says

        Jul 24, 2016 at 3:40 pm

        Its a sham! There are no peaceful Muslims and they all support ISIS, al Qaeda and orher Muslim terror outfits who want to bring caliphate and sharia imposed on the world. There is no point in saying “vast majority” of Muslims are peaceful -NOT! No peaceful Muslim – majority or minority – they all follow the diktats of Quran and Mo/allah!!

  22. Lodesman says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 1:31 pm

    Dealing with Islam cannot be effective until their leftist enablers are silenced. Power is presently in leftist hands: the law; education, government, the media even the Arts. The left are using muslims to try to achieve their marxist nirvana.

    After the Second World War, full out marxism was tried by decent well meaning men and women who had solid governing experience in a massively successful wartime coalition. .Nevertheless, It all failed. They were glad to get out of the mess they created and let the rejected Churchill govern.

    The left now owns the dialogue (PC), in our education establishments where our children have been programmed for the last several decades. Before the manifestly obvious Islamic threat can be stifled the political balance must shift from its present far left back to centre.

  23. خَليفة says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 2:37 pm

    We have to assume that God is not on their side since they had to change the time due to the weather.

  24. Wellington says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 2:50 pm

    Even if such events as this one were attended by a far larger number of Muslims, so what? An ideology should be judged by what it says, never by the fact that many adherents to an ideology don’t fully implement its tenets. For instance, more than a few Christians are hypocrites but it would be foolish to judge Christianity by this fact. As for Islam, it says many horrible things, such as death for apostasy and punishment of the most severe kind (or death) for criticism of Islam, Mohammed or the Koran.

    Imbedded in Islam, as revealed by the Koran, the hadiths, the sira and the various schools of Islamic theology, is an unremitting hatred tor the non-believer. Such antipathy can be found on almost every page of the Koran. Moreover, the character of the reputed founder of Islam is a loathsome one, indicative of a person who was a psychopath, fraud, narcissist and pedophile (among other personality defects). Also never to be overlooked is that Islam is the only religion that right in its own religious texts calls for war to be made upon the unbeliever. So, Muslims protesting against Islamic terrorism and hate, assuming they are sincere, are ignorant of their own faith and so how reliable is such a confused human being? Besides, and as many here have already noted, Muslims en masse get upset about insults to their faith but killings done in the name of their warped creed draws very little response from the vast majority of Muslims.

    Islam is evil and all Muslims are confused persons. Many are simply wicked. ‘Bout time every non-Muslim in the West figures this out. Islam should be looked upon as Nazism is since it shares so much with this other totalitarian ideology. This is why, when I see a person wearing an hijab, a burqa or a skull cap, I might as well be looking at someone wearing a swastika. Yes, Islam is this awful and so I don’t give a damn that some Muslims really are peaceful, anymore than I give a damn that some Nazi Party members didn’t themselves want to build concentration camps or start a war to advance the Aryan race. It’s what the ideology says that really matters. No contest here.

    • خَليفة says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 3:12 pm

      Good point.

      And, the fact that there may be few good people that self-identify as Muslims, does not mean Islam as a doctrine is good – JW regulars would know that such a muslim, although they think of themselves as a Muslim, would be viewed as an apostate by true believers. The irony of Islam.

    • Lodesman says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 4:07 pm

      Yes Islam is evil but, for whatever purpose, the left are sheltering it. The left have place men and women everywhere to deflect every sane effort to discipline the atrocious behavior of muslims. The usual PC claptrap: racist, islamophobe, xenophobe etc.
      ]
      As mentioned above, the far left have to be dealt with before any progress back to civilization is possible.

  25. Marty says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 3:06 pm

    The Islamic State represents sunni islam in its purest form.
    It is a purist offshoot from Saudi Arabia, which has identical views
    & which the West arms.
    The saudis have institutionalised these values
    & so smoothed off some of the rough edges.
    Of course few mohammedans would attend such a rally.
    They all support IS.

  26. DARRYL Kerney says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 4:07 pm

    They changed the rally from afternoon to evening because of the heat ?
    Aren’t these people of middle eastern, North African, and south central Asian decent ? Where temps regularly get much higher than that ?
    Where the women must wear black tents in the 110 and higher degree heat ? 90’s should be a nice cool day for them !

  27. Jack Holan says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 4:12 pm

    I’ve been told by many friends that I’m very conservative so this viewpoint may come as a surprise to thse who have read what I’ve posted here previously. 25, 50, 100 are terrible numbers but Zero would be absolute. The fact that 100 people came out means some people have their eyes open and are listening. Given the the right delivery of of an education of tolerance.100 people may become emissaries toan other 100, 200. No miracle will happen overnight but atleast it’s a beginning point.

    • Wellington says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 5:12 pm

      “…..it’s a beginning point.”

      Respectfully, Jack Holan, no it isn’t. Rather, it’s a futile point, not even full of sound and fury but definitely signifying nothing.

    • Mirren10 says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 5:54 pm

      ”The fact that 100 people came out means some people have their eyes open and are listening.”

      I agree with Wellington. ” … not even full of sound and fury but definitely signifying nothing.”

      In fact, I’ll go further. It’s not just futile, it’s yet another exercise in islamowhitewashing.

      “We’re just like every other American and we’re not here to apologize for anything … ”

      Of course they aren’t there to *apologise*. mohammedans are the ”best of people”. Why the hell should they apologise to the infidels for **anything** ?

      ” … here to explain this is our religion … a religion of tolerance, peace, ethics,”

      More deliberate, mendacious bullshit. islam tolerates *no-one* and *nothing*. The ‘peace’ of islam refers to the time when all non-muslims have either converted, or will be living in a state of dhimmitude, or will be dead.

      **Ethics** ??!! islam is the *only* major religion on the planet which has *no* universal Golden Rule, no concept of the Natural Law, or Tao. The only ‘ethics’ mohammedans are supposed to display, is towards **other muslims**. And God help *them* if they’re the wrong sect, or not Islamic enough.

      I think you need to read the koran and hadiths, Jack Holan.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 25, 2016 at 6:54 pm

      Like Mirren, I agree with Wellington. Besides, remember that this is an “interfaith” event, so even among the few there a certain number are hopeful Infidels, and not Muslims at all.

  28. Kareem Ofwheat says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 4:46 pm

    Islam is NOT A RELIGION, We first need to realize this fact. It is a political plan for conquest and a legal system of oppression. If you wear a diaper on your head, you’re probably not fit for western culture.

    • linnte says

      Jul 25, 2016 at 12:54 am

      laughing at your moniker! Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Kareem Ofwheat. Hahahahahaha!

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 25, 2016 at 6:55 pm

      Yes–great username!

  29. livingengine says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 5:19 pm

    Imam Siddiqui’s Facebook page.
    https://www.facebook.com/people/Imam-Ali-Siddiqui/100007140669325

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 25, 2016 at 7:11 pm

      Among the other things this Imam is flogging is Muslim infiltration into the armed forces, demonstrating against Israel resisting the Jihad against her, and mau-mauing the NRA for allowing Infidels to be armed. He slams Donald Trump’s concerns over Jihad terrorism as a “storm of hate, racism, and Islamophobia”. He also consistently misspells Trump’s name–he refers to him as “Mr. Trumps”. He also whitewashes the Taliban’s destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas, claiming it had nothing to do with the Muslim ban on depicting human figures, but was just to damage Afghanistan’s supposedly thriving tourist industry. Since they destroyed the Buddhas *when they themselves were in power*, this makes even less sense then it would otherwise.

      Hilariously, near the bottom of the Facebook page he *cites this article* from Robert Spencer–but crops it to make it seem as if Jihad Watch is not noting the pathetically small turnout.

      He then slams the media for not giving this sad spectacle more extensive and fawning coverage…

  30. Jon Hammond says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 7:15 pm

    Why am I not shocked by such a pathetic turnout of Muslims against ISIS and Islamic terrorism? I guess that is because the lack of outrage generated by Muslims against Islamo-fascist terrorism and Sharia law can only be interpreted as their silent obedient consent.

    Therefore, it is perfectly fair to conclude that the majority of them will NEVER integrate properly nor will they ever defend values of democracy, free speech, freedom of expression, gender equality, racial equality, gay rights, or any other values held dear by the civilized West and by our true allies in the world.

    • Wellington says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 7:49 pm

      Your conclusion, Jon, is correct. To expand upon this, those Muslims who do integrate well into Western societies are not good Muslims and those Muslims who don’t integrate well into Western societies serve as prima facie evidence that they are indeed good Muslims.

      This is the essence of it all and the proper conclusion, the only sane and logical conclusion, is that no Muslim should be trusted, either because they are clueless about their own religion (and who of sense wants to rely upon clueless people?) or because they know only too well what Islam intends for everyone.

      • Jon Hammond says

        Jul 24, 2016 at 11:38 pm

        Yes, I agree wholeheartedly with all of your points, Wellington.

  31. davej says

    Jul 24, 2016 at 11:39 pm

    Since they all read and revere the same hate speech book they are all equally guilty.

    No Golden Rule = no moral conscience.

  32. Peggy says

    Jul 25, 2016 at 1:16 am

    If the people who turned out did it because they truly believe in what they are saying then I admire them. They will most likely be abused by their community. It took some guts to do that.
    Authorities should approach them and hopefully work with them.
    If, on the other hand, they only turned out to make it look like some of them truly believe in our way of life and have no hatred for us thus making it even harder for us to make a case, then I worry.

    I hope they mean it. Pity I can’t just take this gesture at face value.

  33. gravenimage says

    Jul 25, 2016 at 1:36 am

    DC: “Muslims Against ISIS” rally attracts only “small crowd”
    ………………..

    Well, this should surprise exactly no one…

    • linnte says

      Jul 25, 2016 at 1:39 am

      Hahahaha!

  34. Marwa says

    Jul 25, 2016 at 4:45 am

    I did not even hear about it and when I found out they had a rally I was at work. I’m Muslim Shi’a and if you know anything about this horrible War you would know ISIS targets Shia’a more than anyone and matter a fact the only people combating ISIS on the ground are Lebanese and Syrian. Most of the Shia’a and Sunni living in MI absolutely despise them IS. How many times I see my mom crying balling her eyes out after watching the Arabic news these animals IS beheading kids and commiting horrible crimes. How absurd it sounds of you think I and others support the same terrorist that want to kill us smh. And why does the Obama administration tells the Russians not to bomb the terrorist so much…..And lol they never talk about the politics behind it….

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 25, 2016 at 7:31 pm

      More from Marwa:

      I did not even hear about it and when I found out they had a rally I was at work. I’m Muslim Shi’a and if you know anything about this horrible War you would know ISIS targets Shia’a more than anyone and matter a fact the only people combating ISIS on the ground are Lebanese and Syrian.
      ……………………………….

      Well, and the Kurds. They don’t count, though…

      And again, note that it appears Marwa’s only problem with ISIS is their targeting Shi’ites, whom they regard as “heretics”. Does she have a problem with ISIS enslaving and mass-murdering us “filthy Infidels”? Not so you’d know it…

      More:

      Most of the Shia’a and Sunni living in MI absolutely despise them IS.
      ……………………………….

      Izzat so? What about this fine fellow:

      “Muslim doctor from Flint, Michigan now working for the Islamic State”

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/06/muslim-doctor-from-flint-michigan-now-working-for-the-islamic-state

      Or this one?

      http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/212091-story

      More:

      How many times I see my mom crying balling her eyes out after watching the Arabic news these animals IS beheading kids and commiting horrible crimes. How absurd it sounds of you think I and others support the same terrorist that want to kill us smh. And why does the Obama administration tells the Russians not to bomb the terrorist so much…..And lol they never talk about the politics behind it….
      ……………………………….

      Again, one might wonder if Marwa’s beliefs actually differ from those of ISIS ideologically. Is it OK to use Infidels as sex slaves? Is imposing bloody Shari’ah law a goal? Should unbelievers be slaughtered if they resist submission to Islam? Inquiring minds want to know…

      • linnte says

        Jul 25, 2016 at 7:39 pm

        I love how smart you are!

        • Champ says

          Jul 25, 2016 at 8:26 pm

          Indeed, Linnte! I also love how smart Graven is, and I learn so much from her–she’s a wealth of information!

        • linnte says

          Jul 26, 2016 at 1:49 am

          And you also Champ. xoxo!

        • Champ says

          Jul 26, 2016 at 1:56 am

          Thank you, dear Linnte! ..back atcha’! xoxo 🙂

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 28, 2016 at 1:01 pm

        Thank you, Linnte and Champ! That means a lot to me, coming from two smart ladies. 🙂

  35. mac holliday says

    Jul 25, 2016 at 7:37 am

    and…remember USA citizens of voting age what ms Clinton has said re the muslim/Islamic faith
    …….it is a religion of peace and is compatible with our Constitution……if not Benghazi and all the
    lies and all of the suspicious deaths surrounding the Clintons and the millions donated to the Clinton
    Foundation by the muslim nations that hate us and were part of the 911 massacre ….before you color
    in that little circle….4 more years of Obama is what you are voting for…..Obama care, blackmailing our
    school systems, illegals pouring in from Mexico (to include middle easterners), racial instability worse
    than ever, the constant whittling away of our Constitutional rights, kissing up to the muslim nations
    and 1000*s of questionable muslim immigrants being entertained by the DNC and placed into
    communities whom DO NOT WANT THEM and over the NAYS of USA CITIZENS….think about
    who you will vote for VERY HARD before you fill in that little circle………

  36. Herman says

    Jul 25, 2016 at 10:37 am

    for a rally against ISIS and “Islamophobia”
    They are not there against the islamic state (please do not use the acronym, make it clear it is *islamic*)
    but against the NON-EXISTING islamophobia!!!

  37. David says

    Jul 25, 2016 at 11:42 am

    I’m guessing that they are afraid because they can be murdered. I believe they aren’t use to protesting and they don’t want to ‘rock the boat’.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 25, 2016 at 8:22 pm

      David, if there are so many Muslims–as you obliquely note–willing to kill Muslims who oppose Jihad, then isn’t the larger issue the many Muslims who *support* Jihad groups like ISIS?

    • Peggy says

      Jul 25, 2016 at 11:10 pm

      Oh, the are very used to protesting. They come out in force when they are threatening us and telling us not to draw cartoons or say anything about Islam they might find offensive.
      They are just not used to protesting against terrorism.

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 28, 2016 at 1:55 pm

        Very true, Peggy.

  38. Troybeam says

    Jul 25, 2016 at 1:43 pm

    Apostasy:(Ridda) leaving Islam per Sharia Law:Reliance of the Traveller:page 595 to 598,o8.0
    Leaving Islam
    When a person reaches puberty, rejects Islam: asked by Imam to accept Islam if it is refused then person is immediately killed (o8.2)
    No indemnity for killing an Apostate

    Acts that entail leaving Islam:
    Idol Worship,to deny Allah, be sarcastic about Islam, If a Muslim refuses to teach an Unbeliever, to deny any part of Islam, to call Prophet a liar, to be sarcastic about anything in sharia law,

    No matter why you look at Islam it has the basic damned if you join and damned if you leave, so what’s the attraction?

    • linnte says

      Jul 25, 2016 at 6:45 pm

      Thanks for that Troy! I had been looking for this in my Reliance book and BOOM! You did it for me!

  39. vcragain says

    Jul 25, 2016 at 4:31 pm

    If you listen to what ex-Muslims will tell you – and they are in danger from leaving the cult – they say that there is only ONE Islam – all those not getting into the violent jihad mode are basically just cruising along not really following strongly what their leaders are saying. Just as in the Christian churches, very many go to services occasionally, but really don’t take any of it very much to heart, so it is in Islam. I consider that any ex-Muslim who actually left the cult, is much more likely to say what the problems are than anyone still within it ! I am trying to get in touch with as many leading Liberals as I can, to put this concept to them that Islam is NOT what the leaders claim it is, they will not tell you what their actual goals are, but an ex-Muslim certainly WILL.
    Of course it’s an uphill battle & from many people you will get ignored, but with time there may come a recognition that maybe they should not be quite so quick to dismiss those who are raising questions on this subject. I am not for Mr. Trump, he is a racist bigot, but on this one subject we may find ourselves considering the same options he has been throwing out. Sad but true…I do not hate anybody, but I certainly have no love for the cult of Islam.

  40. More Ham Ed says

    Jul 26, 2016 at 1:59 am

    DC: “Muslims Against ISIS” rally attracts only “small crowd”

    A Tiny Minority ™.

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