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Families of jihad terror victims sue Facebook for giving jihadis platform

Jul 12, 2016 5:44 am By Robert Spencer

Facebook should lose this case. It aggressively removes counter-jihad and counter-migrant invasion material, while allowing jihad terror content to remain. People are being killed. Facebook is not a neutral platform.

Facebook incitement

“Families: Hamas on Facebook, so firm must pay $1B after terror deaths,” by Cyrus Farivar, Ars Technica, July 11, 2016:

On Sunday, the families of several terrorist victims sued Facebook under an American anti-terrorism law. The victims died in multiple terrorist attacks in Israel in 2015 and 2016, and the families are seeking at least $1 billion in damages.The plaintiffs allege that the social networking giant is liable as it provides “material support” to Hamas—which the United States government considers a terrorist group—by allowing its leaders and followers to openly use the service.

The case, known as Force v. Facebook, is the latest example of families attempting to use terrorism statutes as a way to shut down objectionable speech online and gain a monetary benefit for their deceased loved ones from social networks. None of the other efforts so far have been successful.

Facebook will almost certainly claim that it is not liable under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. The company did not respond to Ars’ request for comment.

According to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, Section 230 has enabled all kinds of modern websites to exist, including Craigslist, Yelp, Facebook, and more. Lawsuits should typically be brought against the relevant speakers or authors rather than against the publishers. This argument has largely held up in court.In fact, Twitter has recently made the same argument in a related case, Fields v. Twitter, where the plaintiff was the widow of an American government contractor who was murdered in Jordan. Last month, a federal judge in San Francisco dismissed Fields, siding with Twitter, but will allow the suit to be re-filed….

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  1. Rita says

    Jul 12, 2016 at 7:03 am

    Victims of Islamic terrorism should mount a class action against Face Book in general and Marc Zuckerberg in particular for doing the bidding of Adolf Erdogan via his hand-maiden Merkel.

    • Raja says

      Jul 12, 2016 at 9:14 am

      Rita, Agreed.This should be done world wide. I have already curtailed my Facebook usage significantly.. Those idiots are extremely prejudiced against TRUTH. it is already promoting a form of SLAVERY on a GLOBAL scale.

    • Norwegian says

      Jul 12, 2016 at 9:55 am

      They should also be able to sue the UN, EU, political parties and pro-refugee activist groups like Refugges Welcome…

      All the victims of islam and multiculture should be able to do just that.

      • Angemon says

        Jul 12, 2016 at 3:07 pm

        Indeed. I’ve stated, on several occasions, that all those “Welcome Refugees” useful idiots should be held responsible for the people they wish to force on others. You want “refugees” to be taken in? Fine – you house them, feed them and make sure they learn the language and a marketable skill out of your own pocket, *You* take responsibility and pay for it – not me and everyone else who doesn’t want them in the first place via state taxes. Oh, and if they break the law you’ll also pay for it – you’ll be held as an accomplice.

        • PatnTruck says

          Jul 13, 2016 at 12:18 pm

          I totally agree. I go to my Jihad Senator Tim Kaine’s FB PAGES and post “OUR BLOOD IS ON YOUR HANDS SENATOR!” He supports Obama and Hitelry MINDLESSLY doing their bidding and attending the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD dinner at the WHITE HOUSE. I’m sick of our democratic senators fudging on the side of islamic murders of the AMERICAN PEOPLE!

  2. jihad3tracker says

    Jul 12, 2016 at 7:15 am

    RELATED TO THE KIND OF INCITEMENT PLATFORM THAT FACEBOOK ENABLES FOR JIHAD — THUG PRESIDENT OBAMA AND HIS PALS ARE BEING SUED FOR STARTING A RACE WAR ! ! ! !

    This filing is by former federal prosecutor Larry Klayman, now blogging at Freedom Watch and Judicial Watch —– and he is completely serious, pissed off by the disgusting racism of Louis Farrakan, Al Sharpton, Black Lives Matter hustler rioters, and the rest of a criminal gang pretending to be real civil rights activists.

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/11/fmr-prosecutor-sues-obama-al-sharpton-for-inciting-race-war/

    Click on the link leading to a PDF of the court document — 52 pages. Read the whole thing when you have time, but note especially items 23 and 24: When Obama came out right after the 5 Dallas officers were assassinated that suggested in his words that there was a conspiracy by police to kill black Americans.

    PLEASE SEND THIS TO YOUR HOME TOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT. LET THEM KNOW THAT EVERYONE CAN AND SHOULD JOIN IN THE CLASS ACTION PROCEDURE. And pass the word along to your local TV station if it has a “Tip Line”, because the more publicity it gets, the more LEO personnel will join the filing as plaintiffs.

    LARRY KLAYMAN IS A TRUE PATRIOT PUSHING BACK AGAINST OUR TRAITOR IN CHIEF.

    • jihad3tracker says

      Jul 12, 2016 at 12:55 pm

      Here is one of the best videos about what is happening now — the Left and Black Lives Matter encouraging violence up to the point of murder on police:

      http://www.infowars.com/sheriff-clarke-black-lives-matter-is-a-vulgar-vile-vicious-slimy-movement/

      NOT THE TOP VIDEO — THE BOTTOM ONE, WITH ALEX JONES (INFOWARS). It runs around 12minutes. Please watch when you can give 100% attention.

      • Angemon says

        Jul 12, 2016 at 3:09 pm

  3. Angemon says

    Jul 12, 2016 at 7:40 am

    Facebook should lose this case. It aggressively removes counter-jihad and counter-migrant invasion material, while allowing jihad terror content to remain. People are being killed. Facebook is not a neutral platform.

    Indeed.

    • billybob says

      Jul 12, 2016 at 6:02 pm

      With all due respect – that is very short sighted. If Facebook loses the case, it would set a very dangerous precedent. Website administrator would become responsible for the comments made by people posting on their site. Robert of all people should be aware of this. He is a very well educated man and an administrator of a website where people speak quite frankly. I have seen comments here that border on incentivization to violence against individuals – specifically – Muslims, rather than simply raging against the ideology or religion of Islam. I have found some of these comments quite disturbing. It doesn’t happen very often, and perhaps Robert prunes out the worst when he has time, but he could be held responsible for such comments were a precedent to be set by the Facebook case. Whatever are people thinking here?

      Free speech is OK when it is your speech, but not ok when it is somebody else’s? Free speech is precious, and to protect our right to free speech, we must protect everybody’s. There are no exception!

      • Angemon says

        Jul 12, 2016 at 8:05 pm

        billybob posted:

        “With all due respect – that is very short sighted. If Facebook loses the case, it would set a very dangerous precedent. Website administrator would become responsible for the comments made by people posting on their site. (…) Free speech is OK when it is your speech, but not ok when it is somebody else’s? Free speech is precious, and to protect our right to free speech, we must protect everybody’s. There are no exception!”

        That’s the thing – FB is a partial entity. They’re not claiming to stand for freedom of speech, they took a stand and picked a side. They don’t get to shrug it off with “we’re not responsible for what users post because free speech” when they actively police its contents and remove content they don’t like – which, apparently, doesn’t include support for jihadis but includes denunciation of jihadis.

        • billybob says

          Jul 12, 2016 at 8:46 pm

          So what you’re saying is that if a website is moderated, different rules apply? Suddenly the website administrator is responsible for all content?

        • Angemon says

          Jul 13, 2016 at 4:16 pm

          billybob posted:

          “So what you’re saying is that if a website is moderated, different rules apply?”

          No.

        • Western Canadian says

          Jul 12, 2016 at 10:27 pm

          When a website on the net commits fraud, selling products by misrepresenting them, they are liable in court. Fakebook is a fraud… voluntarily and profitably.

  4. Dan says

    Jul 12, 2016 at 7:45 am

    If the site hadn’t been suppressing Anti Islamic and pro Israel material, I’d say there was no case.

    But TWO Facedbook doesn’t even come close to practicing what it preaches.

  5. biff says

    Jul 12, 2016 at 8:30 am

    Facebook will never be convicted of this.

    Sure there is a pile of evidence and every day that goes on re-enforces the facts of the case.

    The security services (CIA,FBI etc) want Facebook to keep doing this so they can keep tabs on them instead of them using Chinese or Iran software etc.

    They consider letting these assholes spew hate as part of the endless solution of monitoring them to find conspiracies or the next attack.

    There is a ZERO PERCENT chance that the security services will throw Facebook (or google for that matter) under the bus.

    Cracking down on criticism of Islam while allowing the Jihadi’s to go crazy on Facebook IS PART OF THE PLAN.

    They know Islamaphobia is a fake threat. That’s why they can crack down on it endlessly without worry. There will never be a Islamaphobia attack they need to worry about.

    The entire idea is to let the Jihadi’s do whatever they want as long as they can watch them.

    It’s a bad policy, but POTUS is incompetent or worse.

    • KnowThyEnemy says

      Jul 12, 2016 at 1:35 pm

      If the US govt is doing what you say with the aim of keeping watch on jihadis, I say it is very good policy. This way the govt can keep tabs on the bad guys without compromising Free Speech. Hence the only point where they are wrong is when the suppress Islam criticism.

      As a firm supporter of Free Speech, I am against FB, Twitter, or Google having biases against ideas they don’t like whether it be jihadists’ ideas or Islam-critics. If Trump wins in November, the only change he should make is to stop the persecution of Islam-critics and push for more power be given to Robert Spencers of the world!

  6. JawsV says

    Jul 12, 2016 at 8:45 am

    I hate Fakebook and “social media” in general and have nothing to do with it.

    The West invents the Internet and social media. The Moslems use it to kill us. Oh, the irony.

    • Raja says

      Jul 12, 2016 at 9:20 am

      9/11 should also be considered “invention with airplane blasts” by Muslims with the connivance of insiders.It appears the Islamic zealots have been using everything under the sun to kill non Muslims and alleged apostates of Islam

  7. nicu says

    Jul 12, 2016 at 9:51 am

    They always blame others ! and of course want money …

    They should take care of their breed !

    Facebook only bans the truth about Islam and promotes radical Islam … that’s true !

  8. Mirren10 says

    Jul 12, 2016 at 9:52 am

    Facebook seems to be very hit and miss, over these issues.

    My husband regularly posts anti-islam material on his page, as do I. So do many of the people I know. Not once have any of us been censored. Very odd.

    • Raja says

      Jul 12, 2016 at 1:21 pm

      Mirren, May be it went unnoticed or unreported by Islamic zealots.

      • eduardo odraude says

        Jul 13, 2016 at 1:19 pm

        Facebook will censor it if it is posted by someone well-known, like Spencer, Geller, etc.

  9. Guest says

    Jul 12, 2016 at 10:00 am

    We all knew this was going to happen eventually. Facebook reaped what it sowed.

    • Raja says

      Jul 12, 2016 at 1:07 pm

      Facebook should be made to cough out in billions of dollars. They should be sued for injustice and helping the Islamic deceit and propaganda machinery.

      If Facebook cannot be self regulatory they should be made one.They are favoring the carnivorous and targeting the lambs. I don’t know if any organization can be so shamelessly partisan that too in favor of evil people? Don’t they have any character at all?

  10. Berzrkr50 says

    Jul 12, 2016 at 10:45 am

    Facebook supports Muslim extremists and censors anyone that dares to criticize them! I hope they succeed in taking Mark Suckerhead to the cleaners!

  11. El Cid says

    Jul 12, 2016 at 10:47 am

    Robert,

    It sounds like you would be a perfect expert witness for the plaintiff’s legal team.

    The pattern of deletions sure looks like it favors so-called Radical Islam.

  12. Ed Lee says

    Jul 12, 2016 at 1:16 pm

    For the last several years I have been saying that there are 2 words to describe Facebook: Frivolous and dangerous. I don’t have an account, and have never had one.

  13. Raja says

    Jul 12, 2016 at 1:18 pm

    We know a popular proverb: ” run with the hare and hunt with the hounds”. But what we see of Facebook is “run with the hounds and hunt the hare”. Mark Zuckerberg must be highly immoral man beside being a shameless man.

    • KnowThyEnemy says

      Jul 12, 2016 at 1:46 pm

      Zuckerberg probably thinks he is being very MORAL to have the current Facebook policy. He is a product of today’s left infested educational institutions, and Zuckerberg is what Leftism does to peoples’ sense of values, principles, and morality.

  14. linnte says

    Jul 12, 2016 at 5:16 pm

    It seems contrary to popular belief, but freedom of speech includes listening to hateful rhetoric. Allowing Hamas, CAIR, ISIS access to social media is freedom of speech. And it also means that you and I can put up our objections to that hateful speech, or even state “I hate Islam” on social media. And I say that FREQUENTLY! ?

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 12, 2016 at 8:30 pm

      There is a difference between freedom of speech, Linnte–even of utterly objectionable speech–and actually inciting violence. The first should be protected, no matter how vile. The latter is a more complicated issue.

  15. John says

    Jul 12, 2016 at 5:44 pm

    Remember Zuckerberg and Merkel at the UN meeting last year overheard while talking too close to a micro and devising how to censor the people opposed to the 2015 migration invasion.

    He is the one who put in place a denunciation scheme on facebook, reminding us of the denunciations druing world war two in occupied countries against Jews and other Nazis target groups.

    Today, the Koran replaced Mein Kampf and the muslim fanatics the SS, SA and Gestapo of our days, with the complicity or complaisance, as usual, of most of our so called “elites”.

    Zuckerberg is helping at the destruction of his own people, like so many other super privileged higher caste members (a sort of new aristocracy living above the cloud in a totally disconnected from reality BS world)

    For Zuckerberg and his friends, there is no censorship for muslim fanatics, only for Europeans who just want to say no to the islamisation and invasion of their country.

    So, thank you to these families to take Zuckerberg at his own game.

    Anyhow, facebook is a global surveillance network and a propaganda tool used to manipulate the weakest minds…Time to get rid of it…

  16. Linde Barrera says

    Jul 12, 2016 at 8:18 pm

    I post comments, articles and photos on Facebook under my own legal name. I often write responses to Pamela Geller.com criticizing the “evil ideology of Islam” but I never write or advocate harm or death for any Muslim person unless the Muslim person breaks the law and does so barbarically. I find FB caters to narcissists, and I really do not care for Facebook. I think if FB can censor free speech that is hateful to Muslims, and does not block speech from jihadists that is harmful to innocent people, then it can be sued, it shiuld be sued, and it must be sued. And those suing because their family members were killed due to jihadists should win! What about yelling “Fire” in a crowded theatre when there is no fire?

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 12, 2016 at 8:32 pm

      I only signed up for Facebook to contribute to “Everybody Draw Mohammad Day” several years ago. I haven’t really used it since.

  17. LR says

    Jul 12, 2016 at 11:41 pm

    Ah, looks like a few of us on here hate facebook, and don’t use it. Talk about invasion of any bit of privacy you might have left. Wish it was never developed.

    Zsucky boy seems to be for tons of immigration. Of course he’s got so much $ he can buy hundreds of acres and then build his own walls.

    • eduardo odraude says

      Jul 13, 2016 at 1:25 pm

      Yes, and can go in private planes, have bodyguards, meet only rich elites if he pleases.

  18. PatnTruck says

    Jul 13, 2016 at 12:44 pm

    IF ANY of our POLITICOS or Republican and Democrate PUNDITS would actually sit down and READ the koran – with its hate speech – wife beating, calls to murder, and general incitement by Muhammend to his demented followers to KILL anyone who doesn’t agree with Muhaha’s “OBEY ME!!” orders (and my sock puppet allah) then PERHAPS OUR LAWMAKERS would MAYBE get the BACKBONE, the balls, the brass to actually order the IRS TO REVOKE THE TAX EXEMPT status of mosques all over the USA. These second generation murderers –of “WE the Free American People” — are learning this ISLAMIC crap to kill us infidels from their imams and clerics in mosques – and FACEBOOK – sprewing Muhammed hatred of all.
    So revoke the TAX EXEMPT STATUS of all mosques and let them explain what portions of the KORAN they DON”T FOLLOW! IF any murderer came from a particular mosque, then that is a good start. Get them in the money, things perhaps would change quickly.
    Like Switzerland – none of this multiculturism bullshit that these barbarians practice in our society. We don’t like it, we damned well don’t want it. And when can we send them BACK? Oh, let’s elect Mr. Trump and insure he does begin the shipments to the nearest muslim country so these savages won’t feel the need to kill us.

    • eduardo odraude says

      Jul 13, 2016 at 1:29 pm

      It’s not about to happen, but there is a case for revoking tax exempt status — a political organization is not entitled to it. Islam, at least as its prime exemplar, Muhammad, defined it, is definitely a political program, Islamic law for all. The fact that it is also religious should not excuse it from losing tax-exempt status due to the political program — what’s more, the political program is violently seditious.

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