SECOND UPDATE: 60 dead.
UPDATE: 30 dead.
“There was no immediate claim of responsibility but according to the Twitter account of the terrorism-news portal TRACTerrorism.org, Islamic State affiliated Telegram accounts were posting images from Nice.” And this was no accident: according to the BBC, “The local prefecture has urged people in the area to remain indoors, calling the incident ‘an attack.'”
Recently the Islamic State called for more jihad attacks in France, saying: “The French must die by the thousands.”
“Dozens killed as truck crashes into Bastille Day crowd in Nice, France,” by Victor Morton, Washington Times, July 14, 2016:
France’s national holiday turned ugly for revelers Thursday night in the southern city of Nice, as a truck reportedly crashed into a crowd of Bastille Day revelers, killing dozens of people.
The mayor of Nice tweeted that dozens of people were killed.
Multiple videos posted on BreakingNews.com showed people fleeing in panic, though the crash itself wasn’t shown.
There also were reports of gunshots, though fireworks are often set off on Bastille Day, making such early witness accounts questionable.Islamist terror groups, sometimes using native-French Muslims, have targeted France repeatedly in recent years and the use of vehicles and car bombs are among their known tactics.
There was no immediate claim of responsibility but according to the Twitter account of the terrorism-news portal TRACTerrorism.org, Islamic State affiliated Telegram accounts were posting images from Nice.
Morton Doodslag says
This is the Rape of our Civilization.
Scott says
I emailed a Gay friend yesterday who lives in Paris and asked him about what the French Intelligence Minister said regarding that this is all coming to a head and might create a civil war within France.
He told me that it was all over blown……
Really?
Ashley says
Your attempt to make a joke over this matter is beyond offensive.
You are an ignorant fool.
Stuart Maxwell says
But that quite literally is what ‘liberal’ Europeans say about it – they cannot admit that their hippy dream of everyone living together is a sham, so they tell a cheap lie regardless of how scared or uncertain them may in fact feel. Or they may be living in areas not yet so affected by Islamic immigration.
Mockingjay says
Ashley, I do not think (ofcourse, I could be wrong) that Scott is trying to make a joke out of this.
I think what he is trying to communicate is the TOTAL and COMPLETE denial that many French citizens – still – live in regarding the DESASTROUS situation coming their way.
I myself have witnessed this denial and ignorance in French people as well.
They just seem to think that nothing will disrupt their pleasant life, and that after the Paris attacks “everything was under control”.
They SERIOUSLY thought something like that would not happen again.
They did not have an INKLING that it might just be the beginning.
What happened tonight will be a rude awakening for many of them.
Ashley says
Stuart and Mockingjay…
Thanks for framing Scott’s comment in the manner it was likely intended.
My apologies to you, Scott.
The Other Jim says
So, when does some Leftard bring his piano down to the scene of the mass murder in Nice by Islamists and start playing & singing John Lennon’s ‘Imagine’?
Don’t roll your eyes, you know some French Leftard will do it…
The Vilest of Creatures says
And get ready for the #WeAreNice hashtags, the candle light vigils and the claims from leaders around the world that this has ‘nothing to do with Islam’ — as we brace ourselves for the next assault on humanity by the Religion of Peace.
gravenimage says
Yes–this happened after the Paris attacks. Some well meaning idiot drove all night so that he could play John Lennon’s vapid “Imagine” outside the Bataclan Theater:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2015/nov/14/pianist-plays-john-lennon-imagine-outside-bataclan-paris-attacks-video
Custos Custodum says
UK Telegraph finally picked up an Arabic grammar book, translates the inevitable “Allahu Akbar” correctly:
‘Driver was 31-year-old from Nice’
The local newspaper, Nice-Matin, reports that the man driving the truck was a 31-year-old Nice resident of Tunisian origin.
The truck driver was said to have shouted ‘Allahu Akbar’ — God is greatest — before being shot dead by police.
INFO NICE-MATIN. Un Niçois d’origine tunisienne au volant du camion #AttentatNice https://t.co/hklMbEMcO1 pic.twitter.com/fOIQNS5UN4
— Nice-Matin (@Nice_Matin) July 15, 2016
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/14/truck-crashes-into-crowd-at-bastille-day-celebrations-in-nice2/
ECAW says
Still not right. “God is greater” ie than your god…with an implied threat of takeover.
Kay says
I don’t see the news report that says he yelled A A
(I’m not doubting. I just would like the news to report completely.)
ECAW says
Kay – There’s a headline here in the Telegraph but subscription is required to open it:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/;jsessionid=CO4HJV2G1UMQLQFIQMFSFGGAVCBQ0IV0
gravenimage says
Here you go, Kay:
“Mohammed, the ‘Nice’ Terrorist, Shouted ‘Allahu Akbar” before Attack”
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/263521/mohammed-nice-terrorist-shouted-allahu-akbar-daniel-greenfield
Oliver says
i heard that (a) the police accepted that hre had ice cream (in an unmarked truck-and-question-(I know a little about refrigerated trucks- very little, but a little)- was there an ecooling unti, sticking out/ If not, woiuldn’t that be a tip off?
(b) he was a police informant and (c) was a double 9or triple) agent.
And, that he lied to the polcie on more then one occasion. ( when driving, i listen to the radio, and the above-other then my limited knowledge of refrigerated trucks is what one commentator said).
Oliver says
Stuart– the elites ALWAYS live in areas where there are none of these pieces of animal bodily waste. (With apologies to animal waste).
I know that this is true in the US, and I am sure in Europe as well.
So, they cannot come down form their ivory towers, not do the cranial/rectum correction to reverse the inversion, and see what is happening.
PRCS says
Not likely to be a Basque separatist, eh?
vlparker says
Probably discontented Hindus.
Oliver says
The Swedish Foreign Minister, JUST AS SHE DID AFTER THE PARIS ATTACKS, will claim it is ALL ISRAEL’S FAULT.
Obama will add that it is George W Bush’s fault, as well.
Black Lies will add that It was the IDF and Mossad that really did it, in support of the Swedish Foreign Minister.
David M says
Or blame trucks in general!
Drew says
Leftists will call for truck control before they call for Muslim control in western countries. It would be a twofer for them as their green scam also calls for getting big vehicles off the road.
Peggy says
Everyone will be asked to hand in their truck and all problems will be solved.
What is it going to take to wake up some people? Government and NGOs are not asleep. They know but how many deaths will it take for the rest of the population to wake up and stop going along with this insanity?
Christianblood says
Peggy posted
(What is it going to take to wake up some people? how many deaths will it take for the rest of the population to wake up and stop going along with this insanity?).
Their population has no idea of what hit them! They are fed of steady propaganda diet that tells them constantly that (islam is the religion of peace), (Assad must go!) and (Putin/Russia is bad!)
Gamma Ray says
The NRA must be held accountable, too, along with Big Oil, the Boy Scouts of America, Christians, etc.
Place the blame anywhere but the obvious source – Islam.
Oliver says
You left out Israel and the IDF and Mossad, and George W Bush, and, the latest, Mr. Trump
JMB says
Here in Australia we have been watching the breakfast news coverage of this story for the past 2 hours. The words Islam or Islamic have not been used. Terror has only been “suggested”. As such I knew that it is now certainly time for me to log into Jihad Watch to try and get the real truth.
PRCS says
You see, we’ve got to defeat “the ideology”, you know, “the ideology” that drives “home grown terrorists” and we’ve got to start naming this “ideology” or we can’t defeat it.
You’re lucky to have Senators Pauline Hanson and Kirralie Smith down under, IMO–as they don’t appear to be “go along to get along” politicians, at least as far as this issue.
JMB says
Pauline Hanson was the best thing that happened in our recent general election. She is hated by everyone who is even slightly left of the centre right. But she says the things that most Australians want to hear such as standing up to the ongoing Asian invasion of this country and she is one of the very few politicians to warn us about Islam. Hated yes, but she is always new, people listen, the media hangs on to every word she says and most importantly she won a seat in our Senate.
Mazo says
Hindus read the above post to see how much the vegemite consumers despise all Asians whether Hindu, Buddhist or any other religion.
Angemon says
– Calls someone a “vegemite consumers”
– Claims, without any evidence to back it, that ALL “vegemite consumers” despise ALL Asians
-All this on a topic about another murderous attack done by his coreligionists
Oh, the irony! Hey, Mazo, I asked you last year if you were ever going to grow a pair and join ISIS in Syria. Much easier to act as a keyboard mujahideen, right? No, wait, I bet you tried to and failed:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/11/australian-jihadis-too-fat-for-the-islamic-state
Bwahahahahaha!
gravenimage says
When faced with Muslim savagery, Mazo has not a word of condemnation.
Instead, he is just trying to divide the *victims* of Islam. Sickening, but hardly surprising.
Debi Brand says
“You see, we’ve got to defeat ‘the ideology’ you know, ‘the ideology’ that drives ‘home grown terrorists.'”
And to that, spurring on his ummah to fight the unbelievers and to kill them wherever they [the believers] find them, using every believer at his disposal to serve that end, “Allah” provides, “it was not you who drove the truck, it was Allah.”
He adds, “It was not you who did the killing tonight in Nice, France, it was Allah!”
“I Am the said ‘ideology,'” He shouts. “My messenger, Muhammad is the said ‘ideology!'”
And we note, few dare take on “Allah,” few dare take on ” his messenger, Muhammad.”
Much safer to pretend, by pretending all written in the “sacred texts” of Islam is not there, one can defeat that written in the “sacred texts” of Islam.
http://islamexposed.blogspot.com/
PRCS says
Will there FINALLY be a “backlash” after this one?
Polk1970 says
Obama has been NOTIFIED
The Mental Gyrations on HOW “This has Nothing to do with Isam” and “innocent and peaceful Muslims” MUST NOT even be looked at “funny” are the Business of The Moment
THIS is going to be an Instant Classic,Once he makes his statement.
Wonder IF he called Hollande yet?
Christianblood says
PRCS
Don’t expect the emasculated and effeminate Western cowards to fight back. What you have to expect is more flowers, more “loves” and more hugs, more rainbow flags and more Teddy Bears placed the spot where their people are massacred.
Their useless mantra is (islam is the religion of peace), (Assad must go!) and (Putin/Russia is bad!)
Greyhound Fancier says
Creating an impromptu shrine, while not doing anything to protect the people from the savages, makes the leftists and liberals feel better.
Just like tweeting about the Lost Girls. The libs feel better, but their tweet doesn’t free a single girl. Only hard work, vigilance, and perseverance has freed any of them.
Have we completely lost our character? As a new senior age woman, I think it’s true that we each and every one must take responsibility for our own protection, and hold our government’s feet to the fire any way necessary to see that it does its duty.
The first duty of government is to protect the life and property of its citizens. That does not include bringing in violent, dangerous aliens who we have to monitor constantly for our own protection. What’s completely wrong with this picture? Have we lost our minds?
Oliver says
Greyhound Fancier,
Think back to the 2012 Republican debates. Newt Gingrich was asked, (paraphrasing the question) that IF HE WERE PRESIDENT, and he KNEW, beyond a doubt, from intelligence services, etc. that a 911 type attack was planned, and the names and locations of the perps, would he take them out? (Kill them).
Newt replied YES, THE FIRST AND MAIN DUTY OF A LEADER IS TO PROTECT HIS PEOPLE.
Ron Paul, father of Rand Paul-R-Kentucky, one time Pres. hopeful-I think he was 15th out of 17, said that that would be immoral-TO TAKE THEM OUT -BASED ON INTELLIGENCE, ETC- BECAUSE THEY HAD NOT DONE ANYTHING. (again, paraphrasing).
All of the Repubs. agreed with newt, except Paul.
it seems, however, that the current (mis)administration as well as most if not all European leaders agree with Ron Paul- and even after, do zero or next to zero.
Hwilsongoon says
I hope so.
PRCS says
Hillary Rodham Clinton:
““Let’s be clear: Islam is not our adversary. Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism.”
Idania says
There are lots of people that believe that trash. Hitlery is receiving 20% of the campaign funds from the Saudies, according to one of their ministers. If, God forbid, she becomes president, that would be the total Islamization of USA. She already said that she will bring more “refugees” into the country. Please, please vote TRUMP 2016.
Polk1970 says
And Chelsea is going to INHERIT the Price her parents EXTRACTED for TREASONOUS BETRAYAL of The US .
Oliver says
Maybe not- right away- anyhow- Chelsea MIGHT be considered sort of royalty- until the next Muslim revolt and those peopel dislike the supporters of the priro regime. Then she will be killed.
JawsV says
Yes, Trump 2016. However, it was disconcerting to hear on the News tonight that his VP choice, Pence, is against Trump’s Muslim Ban. That kind of did it for me with Pence.
Cecilia Ellis says
Jaws, one minute ago, Trump just called in to Cam Cameron, FoxNews correspondent, to state that he was postponing the announcement of his VP running mate. Maybe there is still hope …
Mazo says
A Jordanian website was hacked to claim Saudis funded 20% of her campaign. There is zero evidence besides hackers defacing the Jordanian website and posting fake news.
gravenimage says
Yeah–Mazo has cited that iffy claim before:
“Jordan News Agency claims hackers planted story of Saudis funding Hillary”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/06/jordan-news-agency-claims-hackers-planted-story-of-saudis-funding-hillary
The fact is that the Jordanian news aganecy had no problem running with this story until if became impolitic for them to do so.
Mazo says
Cretin mirage, foreign governments financing candidates is illegal according to USA law. Clinton is known as a Zionist in the Arab world. Many pro-Assad supporters attacked Clinton’s candidacy because of her support for ousting Assad. They have the motives to plant a story on their enemiea the Saudis financing the election.
Might be too hard for your mediocre brain to process simple information.
Angemon says
Mazo posted:
“foreign governments financing candidates is illegal according to USA law.”
I bet Saudis and Jordanians know that – hence the claims of “OMG, H4XX0R”.
“Clinton is known as a Zionist in the Arab world.”
Is there any American government member who is NOT considered a “Zionist” in the Arab world?
“Many pro-Assad supporters attacked Clinton’s candidacy because of her support for ousting Assad.”
Citation needed.
“They have the motives to plant a story on their enemiea the Saudis financing the election.”
And Saudis have a motive to claim the story is a hoax.
Lee says
Except for the fact that her two top aides are Muslim and she, through the Clinton Crime Family Foundation has received hundreds of millions from Muslim states. No evidence at all.
Angemon says
Mazo posted:
“A Jordanian website was hacked to claim Saudis funded 20% of her campaign. There is zero evidence besides hackers defacing the Jordanian website and posting fake news.”
Yes, because apparently, hackers have nothing better to do than hack a Jordanian site with the expressed purpose of posting a false news report about HC. How about this: a Saudi Prince made the claim, it was reported, and vigilant citizens brought it to a larger audience the heat increased and the Jordanian website conveniently blamed it on hackers – because, again, hackers do just that: they inconspicuously hack Jordanian websites to spread false stories about HC. A hacker hacking a site and making a big deal out of it? Why, that’s unheard of!
gravenimage says
What claptrap. Robert Spencer notes how iffy this denial is:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/06/jordan-news-agency-claims-hackers-planted-story-of-saudis-funding-hillary
gravenimage says
Still waiting for Mazo to utter a word of condemnation for his pious coreligionist slaughtering scores of innocent people in Nice. I won’t be holding my breath, though…
Wellington says
This has nothing to do with Islam. I repeat, this has nothing to do with Islam.
Bezelel says
Wellington, Your comment wasn’t showing yet when I posted mine. This event will be hard to sweep under the islamic rug. Body count 60 at this time.
Wellington says
Understood, Bezelel, but this “event” WILL be swept under the rug. Count on it. Many more such future history “events,” courtesy of Islam, will also be dismissed one way or another as having nothing to do with Islam.
I predict it will take HUGE amounts of deaths and maiming by adherents of the longest-lived and best disguised form of evil of all time before a whole new crop of Western elites appear who will simply tell it like it is, i.e., that Islam is spiritual fascism, a mortal enemy of liberty and other good things, and that it really, truly and indubitably sucks the big weenie big time (fitting though, no, since the childish Islamic view of the afterlife promises not only female virgins but also “pearly boys”?).
Please excuse my “descent” into grossness here but evil must be mocked almost as much as it must be crushed and often times the colloquial or slang of a language does “the mock stuff” optimally. Not sure I did so adequately or appropriately here but I gave it a shot nonetheless.
More simply and succinctly, I will close by echoing gravenimage, to wit, “God, I hate Islam.” Frankly, all those who don’t see the imperative of coming to the same conclusion as gravenimage simply reveal their limitations, the only variables respecting such limitations being the degree of ignorance or complicity.
Bezelel says
The conclusions we come to have a lot to say about our mental heath. IE. the people who can read this same article and the multitudes like it and still not admit that islam is involved. Providing they are sincere in their denial. I’ll see your “descent” and raise it too, “there is no gravity in islam, Suction is the only thing that holds them to earth.” And I have concluded as well, I Hate islam.
Oliver says
Wellington, I agree– you are correct.
It will be swept. see also my other commetns directed to B.
PRCS says
73 now.
And how many of the wounded will succumb to their injuries over the next few days?
Cecilia Ellis says
And how many of those who survive their injuries will endure life-long disabilities or quality-of-life hardships? Sadly, with little exception, those victims will not merit the attention of global news reports.
gravenimage says
Yes–there could be more deaths. I pray not.
Wellington says
Actually, PRCS, when I see another Islamic barbaric attack, like this one in France today, I often think to myself that the dead are the lucky ones. The truly unfortunate are those who are brain-damaged, blinded, without one or more limbs, et al. who will suffer for years, who will live a lesser life for years, before entering into the big sleep.
Speaking for myself, I want to live whole or not at all. I respect those who would assert otherwise, who would prefer to go on with life with no sight, with brain damage, without a leg or arm, but this is not how I think; it is not my way. And so, because of my “worldview” on this particular matter, it is the maimed I grieve for even more than the dead (also for the many family members of the dead and wounded who weren’t even present when Muslim barbarism struck again but who must deal with the consequences of yet another example of Islamic violent rot for the rest of their lives).
Islam is evil. The sooner the overwhelming number of Westerners come to this conclusion the better. Far from this yet——sadly. Yes, very far and what a damn shame. No, the monstrous stupidity that Islam is something good still has a lot of life to it in the West. Wish this weren’t the case but it is, and thus tending to demonstrate once again the cynical view of the past, as proffered by Napoleon, that history is a pack of lies agreed upon. I fight this cynical view often times because I believe in truth, though elusive with great frequency, as finally winning out over falsehood, but, damn, I am tempted regularly to conclude that the Emperor got it right.
Theresa May, do you get any of this? You Barack? You Justin? You Angela? Of course you don’t. And this why, in microcosm, the carnage will continue for a long time to come, courtesy first and foremost not of evil but courtesy first and foremost of the exculpation of evil.
Sorry for running on here, PRCS, but my blood is up right now. Hope you and yours are doing well in a world which is not doing well.
PRCS says
I agree with each of you–in addition to the lives lost and that will be lost–there are the additional horrors to be endured by the injured–so many of them horribly and forever, and the family members of each, and all of the other collateral damages like loss of income, curtailed educations, the spouses and children never to be had, and on.
And, of course, rants, in situations such as this, are both encouraged and welcome!
Keys says
Yes; those in power who allowed these Muslims into their countries are responsible; and their feet need to be held to the fire that is growing throughout their countries because of these atrocities.
As more and more families are affected by this terrorism, and more and more people are arrested for “hate speech”, the response will move from speech to action. Not a pleasant thought, but if freedom of speech is forbidden, only action is left. No speech, no action; that leaves only submission and to hell with that!
This is a war like no other in history; no uniforms; the enemy lives among us; goes home to his family at night, etc., etc. What the f.. is the the plan?
Oliver says
Bezelel–I disagree- re: sweeping under the rug. Let’s go back to the paris attacks. First figures were in the area of 130 dead-with precise breakdowns. The Deputy Mayor of paris said the death toital will be in the hundreds.
Then, appearantly, the Messiah appeared, and the dead came back to life and the total was way less. I think the same will happen here.
The 60+ will magically drop.
And the froigs will go happily on taking in more Muslims.
Debi Brand says
“This has nothing to do with Islam. I repeat, this has nothing to do with Islam.”
Of course this has nothing to do with Islam, Wellington!
You, one who studies Islam, teaches on it, you, above all others should know, today Islam has nothing to do with Islam!!!!
Oliver says
Debi B- Wellington was BEING SARCASTIC.
Debi Brand says
Oliver says: “Debi B- Wellington was BEING SARCASTIC.”
Of course, Oliver. As was I.
Bezelel says
There’s little room for doubt that, This has something to do with islam. Sad and sickening.
Christianblood says
The clueless, anti-Christian and laughable French who just lifted their ” state of emergency” today deserve this and much more. They bombed Qaddafi in support of the Libyan muslim jihadists and they are also backing the Syrian jihadists and even recognized them as the legitimate government of Syria. Imagine, they recognized the Syrian jihadists fighting as Assad as the legitimate government of Syria. Read more here:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-crisis-corrected-idUSBRE8AD0NI20121114
Wellington says
In full parasitic mode, you jump on misfortunes that happen in the West, because fools now lead the West, in order to push your overall anti-Western Russian agenda.
Yes, you don’t stop at criticizing such fools, as many of us who post here regularly at JW also do. No, you have a “greater purpose” and that is to excoriate the West in general, all the while Russia is led by a thug who has many “exterminated” who disagree with him and who inspires no confidence whatsoever in sundry Eastern European nationalities like the Poles, Estonians, Latvians, Czechs, Lithuanians, et al., and which thug validates again and again the assessment by George Kennan that Russia “looks upon its neighbors as vassals or enemies.”
Islam is full of shit. But so is the Holy Mother Russia crap. You don’t get this. You never will. God knows, Putin won’t. Whatever’s wrong with the West, it’s nothing Russia can fix. You won’t get this either.
Christianblood says
Wellington
You are blurting out baseless Russophobic propaganda!
The West must thank Russia and its great leader, President Putin
for stopping Syria from falling into the hands of US-Nato-Saudi-backed barbaric jihadists. Even CIA arms sent to the Syrian “moderate” jihadists are ending up in black markets across the region. SHAME ON THE US! Watch please: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pmbCjNZAfs
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“You are blurting out baseless Russophobic propaganda!”
Your accusation of “Russophobic propaganda” lost whatever teeth it might have had when you accused a site *you* provided to back one of *your* claims of being just that – it was your knee-jerk reaction after I pointed out that the site actually contradicted what you were saying.
Wellington says
Meanwhile, Christianblood, Putin has provided Iran, the single greatest sponsor of state terrorism, with all sorts of weaponry. Oh yes, so has Obama aided Iran through his stupid nuclear deal with said country but I call out Obama as a doofus for this as many others have.
You see, and as I have mentioned before, many in Western nations will openly criticize their far from adequate leaders. You will never do this with Putin, who, btw, annexed the Crimea against all standards of international law. And here is something you HAVE NEVER ADDRESSED and won’t ever, I predict, to wit, the loathing for Putin by numerous peoples in Eastern Europe, like the Poles, Estonians, Latvians, Slovaks, et al. Yep, you never have addressed this and your silence is DEAFENING. Doubt me, then try pushing your stuff about Putin in Warsaw, Tallinn, Riga, Vilnius, Prague, Bratislava. et al. Would buy a ticket to see you attempt such.
Interesting, no, that so many Eastern European countries look upon NATO as a positive (though I fully concede that Turkey remaining in it since Erdogan and his ilk have come into power should be allowed no longer) and Russia looks upon the greatest military alliance for the protection and promotion of freedom in all of history as a negative. Speaks volumes, I would say, never mind stupid errors in Syria by a stupid President of the US right now.
Hey, while you’re at it, why not run the greatness of Putin past Georgians? Oh yeah, bet you’d get an avid audience there too. Yes indeed.
Christianblood says
Wellington
Iran has never committed any genocide but the US is allied with the genocidal muslim Turks who mass-murdered close to two million Armenian and other Eastern Christians and with the barbaric, head-chopping Saudis who are the global sponsors of the Sunni Salafi Wahhabi jihadist ideology. Remmeber, it was Saudi-sponsored Sunni jihadists who murdered 3000 American civilians on a single day and your government is unable to even release the 9/11 reports that are incriminating the evil house of Saud. Shame! Shame! Watch this American senator who points out the facts:
Angemon says
And as is it wasn’t bad enough that CB came here with the expressed purpose of gloating and reishing the suffering of the French, he’s also running apologia for terrorism-sponsoring, suicidal, genocidal Iran. Like I said, what an execrable piece of human waste.
Angemon says
P.S.:
“Remmeber, it was Saudi-sponsored Sunni jihadists who murdered 3000 American civilians on a single day”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/07/robert-spencer-in-breitbart-four-reasons-why-iran-is-worse-than-the-islamic-state
Of course, don’t expect to see CB amending his posts so that they may contain actual facts – he’s paid to push propaganda and he’ll push it. As the saying goes, “Russia, Russia, soul-crushing and cold, Russia, Russia, we[Russians] do what we’re told”.
Wellington says
You really are a despicable person, Christianblood. To assert, as you have, that America is aligned with a Turkey which did indeed slaughter at least a million Armenians during WWI, when America at the time was an ally of those against the failing Ottoman Empire, is to distort history in the extreme. Yes, after WWII, long after the horrible Armenian genocide, America brought into NATO a secularized Turkey because Russia, in full stupid and despicable mode, was Communist, thus a totalitarian polity and a mortal threat to freedom, rather like Islam always has been.
And what about Stalin? Was America wrong to align with him in WWII to defeat Hitler? And isn’t Stalin one of the greatest mass murderers in history?. And hasn’t Putin on numerous occasions, slyly to be sure, indicated what a damn shame that the USSR is no more, though one of the most heinous regimes in the history of the earth——and that Stalin wasn’t such a bad buy after all, never mind what Alexander Solzhenitsyn and others exposed about arguably THE greatest mass murderer in history?
Do you never think Russia has done wrong? Don’t you get that your “all Russia all the time” is practically a parody of itself? Have you learned nothing from America’s capacity to apologize for its wrongdoings?
And when will you address what sundry Eastern European peoples think about the Russians? As I have mentioned many times, just earlier today in fact, it seems like NEVER. Shame not just on you for this but for your generic exculpation of Russian crimes in general which, very much like the Islamic world, demonstrates time and time again Russia feels it need not apologize for anything even though it has so much to apologize for.
Doubt me? Well then, ask the Poles, the Estonians, the Finns, the Latvians, the Lithuanians, the Czechs, the Slovaks, the Ukrainians, the Georgians, the….., the…., the…..,———–yes, it’s a very, very long list.
gravenimage says
Angemon wrote:
And as is it wasn’t bad enough that CB came here with the expressed purpose of gloating and reishing the suffering of the French, he’s also running apologia for terrorism-sponsoring, suicidal, genocidal Iran…
…………………..
Utterly appalling–but he has done this before.
Christianblood says
Wellington
British and American navies were anchored off shore from the Greek- Armenian city of Smyrna while Turks slaughtered the entire population and burnt the city to the ground. The Turks could have EASILY been stopped cold by just a token of western intervention.
The U.S. CIA ousts the legitimate secular government in Iran allowing the Shah to grant us special drilling rights who’s corrupt government was overthrown by Islamists. Actually,
(the US told a Khomeini envoy that they were – in principle – open to the idea of changing the Iranian constitution, effectively abolishing the monarchy. And they gave the ayatollah a key piece of information – Iranian military leaders were flexible about their political future…) More on the BBC link below please:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36431160
The US also encourages Turkey to invade Cyprus so they can establish a military base in the occupied area and US call for a phony arms embargo to make it look like they are shocked at the aggression. Why did the US, French and UK fleets lying off Smyrna in 1922 NOT assist the Christians who were being massacred by the Turkish military? Many tens of thousands brutally raped, assaulted and murdered and the Americans, British and French watched it all. They even turned the back the boats of people who had managed to escape the horror and sent them back to the shore to be further brutalized and murdered in their turn by the evil genocidal Turks.
Many East Europeans, Greeks and Armenians, be they Orthodox, Catholic or Nestorian would be either subjugated or exterminated by “secular” Turkey had it not been for Russia. You can’t seem to wrap your mind around the fact that these free people will always feel that they owe their freedom to the sacrifices made by the Russian people. Both Britain and US sided with Turkey 3 times during those wars, which saved the Turks from defeat by Russia. Since 1900, the Turks have been responsible for the murder-genocide of 4,300,000 Armenians, Greeks, Nestorians, Bulgarians and Cossacks, all who had once lived within its borders. Turkey, US, Nato united in hate for Russia
The genocidal muslim Turks who murdered close to two million Armenian, other Eastern Christians also hate Russia and both USA, the genocidal muslim Turks are united in hate for Russia in being members of “Nato” an organization whose reason for existence is nothing but to dismantle and to destroy Russia. Even the current FM of Germany had the courage to say this just last week:
Read it below: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36566422
Angemon says
Blah blah blah – another of CB’s long-winded anti-Western diatribes without any substance to it. How many Christians were persecuted and murdered by the very same Russia and Iran that CB is defending? Doesn’t matter – the bodies of the Armenian Christians are simply another soapbox he can climb on to so he can spew another round of anti-Western propaganda. “Blah blah, shame on the American and French and British – but whatever you do, don’t look into my closet, or basement, or under the rug. And don’t mind the smell”.
Wellington says
Christianblood:
Soviet forces did NOTHING, though stationed nearby, while Polish forces and Nazi forces battled it out for control of Warsaw in the waning months of WWII. The Poles begged for assistance from the Russians and the Russians did NOTHING.
You see, two can play this game,
Also, try telling the Poles (and others) why they owe their freedom to the Russians. This I would buy tickets for. Why in the hell do you think the Poles, Estonians, Latvians, et al. so wanted to join NATO? I don’t think it’s because they thought they owed something to the Russians. Really, have you ever talked to Poles? I have. Many other Easter European peoples too. As much as they indicated to me their many reservations about the Germans, they had far more about the Russians.
This too: The Turks are JV players compared to Stalin who murdered some 60 million people and yet Putin has time and time again indicated a nostalgia for the USSR and has never condemned not only what Stalin did but what that first psychopath in Soviet history, Lenin, did (“merely” the death of only some 5 million people). Or the incarceration into psychiatric hospitals (or worse) for those who opposed Khrushchev and Brezhnev et al. Do you get any of this?
gravenimage says
Yet more from “Christianblood”:
British and American navies were anchored off shore from the Greek- Armenian city of Smyrna while Turks slaughtered the entire population and burnt the city to the ground.
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There is no doubt that the British and Americans were far too slow to act–but in the end, virtually all of those from Smyrna who were saved were saved by the flotilla of Western ships that ferried survivors to safety in Greece. One man in particular, an American minister, was the hero here:
“The American who saved 250,000 from death during the Armenian genocide”
http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-04-24/american-who-saved-250000-death-during-armenian-genocide
But then, “Christianblood” knows this–but hopes we don’t.
Christianblood says
Angemon, Wellington
According to a secret document revealed recently, it turned out that the US was sole sponsor of Khumenist revolution in Iran. The US government told a Khomeini envoy that they were – “in principle” – open to the idea of changing the Iranian constitution, effectively abolishing the monarchy. And they gave the ayatollah a key piece of information – “…Iranian military leaders were flexible about their political future…”) More on the BBC link below:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36431160
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“Angemon, Wellington
According to a secret document revealed recently, it turned out that the US was sole sponsor of Khumenist revolution in Iran. The US government told a Khomeini envoy that they were – “in principle” – open to the idea of changing the Iranian constitution, effectively abolishing the monarchy. And they gave the ayatollah a key piece of information – “…Iranian military leaders were flexible about their political future…”) More on the BBC link below:”
Lol! The BBC – a pro-islamic network? That’s your source? Oh, and have you read the article? Because it does not say what you claim it does.
Anyway, this is more of your sand tossing. Wellington rightfully noted that, not only your knee knee-jerk reaction was to say that the French deserved this and worse, you also stood on the still-warm bodies and tried to spread Kremlin-sponsored propaganda despite having a much bloodier, gruesome history to account for, with the corresponding body count to match it.
You have zero empathy for other people and you have no qualms about desecrating the dead. You’re a ghoul, CB. Someone who feeds on the dead. Whatever it is you are, you’re not a Christian, that’s for sure.
gravenimage says
Actually, that BBC story says *nothing* about the US being a sponsor of the Islamic revolution in Iran at all. It just shows that Komeini thought he might be able to get the US to go along with the ouster of the Shah if he claimed it would “stabilize” Iran and lead to continued friendship between the two nations. As it turns out, none of that happened, in any case.
Bezelel says
Christianblood, I didn’t think that attacking Libya was a good idea either, however this attack as usual was against civilians.
Angemon says
As usual, the ghoulish Christianblood gleefully takes a dump in the still warm bodies before using them as a soapbox to spew his Kremlin-sponsored anti-Western propaganda.
What an execrable piece of human waste. “Christianblood”? Only if the spilled blood of Christians is what makes him tick…
gravenimage says
The repulsive “Christianblood” wrote:
The clueless, anti-Christian and laughable French who just lifted their ” state of emergency” today deserve this and much more.
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The victims haven’t even been buried yet, and other of the victims are likely fighting for their lives in the hospital, and here’s the vicious “Christianblood” sneering and gloating over their deaths and how we “deserve” to be slaughtered by Muslim.
*Just sickening*.
Ex-muslim says
@ Christianblood
Well-said (CB)! They all deserve this! The West hates Christians and love islam and muslims. Let them get their karma in full! Let the islam and muslims they are appeasing and supporting from left to right massacre them! I have NO pity for them! None whatsoever!
Bezelel says
Ex-muslim ? I don’t think so. Value and respect for human life even when it has been swindled, is still preferable to blood lust. If you knew what I know, you would reflect on your mental state.
Angemon says
And speaking of ghoulish Western-haters, the second member of the trio made his presence known with his usual claptrap. Why don’t you go face to face with the families of the victims and tell them they deserve it?
Ex-muslim says
@ Angemon
U.S. accepted more than 2,300 Syrian refugees in June alone
and only 8 Christians among them. WHY?????? The West is all doing the same thing and they are my enemies. I hate them! Read it here:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/07/u-s-takes-record-number-of-syrian-refugees-in-june-99-muslims-only-8-christians
Angemon says
paid troll posted:
“U.S. accepted more than 2,300 Syrian refugees in June alone
and only 8 Christians among them. WHY??????”
From that very article:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/07/u-s-takes-record-number-of-syrian-refugees-in-june-99-muslims-only-8-christians#comment-1470916
Now answer my original question and after that explain who what happens in America justifies the deaths of innocent civilians in France.
gravenimage says
The appalling “Ex-muslim” wrote:
@ Christianblood
Well-said (CB)! They all deserve this! The West hates Christians and love islam and muslims. Let them get their karma in full! Let the islam and muslims they are appeasing and supporting from left to right massacre them! I have NO pity for them! None whatsoever!
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Yes, “Ex-muslim” has said many times before that that he eagerly awaits Islam conquering the West and oppressing and mass-slaughtering us. And “Christianblood” has openly served as his cheerleader here.
How, exactly, is this vicious creep an *ex*-Muslim?
Angemon says
gravenimage posted:
“How, exactly, is this vicious creep an *ex*-Muslim?”
He isn’t. And I bet he was never a muslim to begin with. He, like CB, is just here to try to shame and demoralize Westerners.
Peggy says
I would agree with you if the dead were the parasites in government and other institutions. They are responsible for this and they alone should pay for it.
Innocent people don’t deserve to be killed.
Never rejoice in the death of any innocent.
Christianblood says
Angemon posted
(..The U.N. is in charge of which refugees get to enter America. It has a large MUSLIM voting block of 57 countries..)
Nonsense! You are an establishment plant!
Countries who are accepting refugees have the final say
if they want to let in some particular group of refugees or not or the number of refugees they want to let into their countries. The only reason that the US imported 2300 Syrian muslims and only eight Christians in June (and BTW, the rest of the Western world is doing this same thing) is that they hate Christians but have deep love and respect for islam and muslims and so they (the West) all deserves to taste the fruit of the islamic death-cult they are SOOO in love with ! They really do. Don’t you think so? Why are you not outraged in this? Don’t you have any sense of righteous indignation or justice? Where is your humanity? Shame on you!
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“Nonsense! You are an establishment plant!”
Lol! I must be the worst establishment plant ever since I have a long, solid, proud history of tearing the establishemt a new one. There is a plant here – you, a Russian plant with the manifested goal of spreading anti-Western propaganda.
“Countries who are accepting refugees have the final say
if they want to let in some particular group of refugees or not or the number of refugees they want to let into their countries. The only reason that the US imported 2300 Syrian muslims and only eight Christians in June (and BTW, the rest of the Western world is doing this same thing) is that they hate Christians but have deep love and respect for islam and muslims”
Ah, that’s why you cherry picked only a part of the post I linked to. Again, here it is:
The UN runs the refugee camps. The UN gets to decide who is a refugee or not. The UN gets to decide which people in refugee camps gets sent where. The largest voting block in the UN after the fall of the Soviet block is the OIC.
“and so they (the West) all deserves to taste the fruit of the islamic death-cult they are SOOO in love with ! They really do.”
More of CB’s usual hatred of the West.
“Don’t you think so?”
No, I don’t. You think that innocent people deserve to die, but I don’t.
“Why are you not outraged in this? Don’t you have any sense of righteous indignation or justice? Where is your humanity? Shame on you!”
My humanity is manifested on sorrow for the victims of this terrorist attack. My righteous anger and outrage are aimed not only at the terrorists behind it and the bumbling forces that refuse to acknowledge the source of the problem, but also at opportunistic bottom-feeding, scum-sucking losers such as yourself who have a life so miserable that they must vent out their frustration by cheering the deaths of innocent people to make themselves feel better. And you call yourself a Christian? Pathetic. If there’s anyone here that should ha ashamed it’s *you* and your paid-Russian troll buddies.
gravenimage says
The appalling “Christianblood” wrote:
…so they (the West) all deserves to taste the fruit of the islamic death-cult they are SOOO in love with ! They really do. Don’t you think so? Why are you not outraged in this? Don’t you have any sense of righteous indignation or justice? Where is your humanity? Shame on you!
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Note the vicious “Chritianblood” is pretending it is a sign of “humanity” to gloat over the mass-slaughter of 84 innocent people–including children as young as three and four–and that they *deserved* to die, and that if you do not agree, that you should be ashamed. *Ugh*.
the dutch patriot says
Either we kill islam now or we wait until islam kills all of us….
Christianblood says
the dutch patriot posted
(..Either we kill islam now or we wait until islam kills all of us..)
You are right but for the US, EU, Nato they are not talking about islam and they call islam to be (the religion of peace) and are allied with the jihadists, with Turkey and with Saudi Arabia. US, EU, Nato’s focus is on two things.
1.The first one is (Assad must go).
2. The second is Russia, Putin is a threat.
the dutch patriot says
So therefore the current US government, the EU and Nato are our ……… ?
gravenimage says
Notice that “Christianblood” is not talking about Islam, either–he is just excoriating the West.
He says nothing to condemn this bloody Jihad against innocent civilians, but he hates the “Great Satan”…
Angemon says
Your lack of respect and empathy for the victims of islamic terrorism is dully noted – again. Your priority here is slander the innocent dead and defend the honour of Russia and Putin. Because, as everyone knows, all Putin does is defend his homeland… on other people’s land:
http://oi63.tinypic.com/2d75xxv.jpg
Christianblood says
Angemon
Hurrah!
Angemon says
“Ooh Rah”, CB, is the cry of the American Marines, not of Russian troops. Then again, I’m not surprised that Russians are stealing stuff from other people – starting with their political system, stolen from a Prussian… Anyway, we get it: you’re a Russian propagandist that came here to gloat and relish on the pain, suffering and anguish of the French people.
gravenimage says
If a terrible Jihad attack like this had–God forbid!–occurred in Russia, none of the good people here would be gloating over the murders.
And this is not theoretical–look back to stories like the attack on the Moscow airport. Real Anti-Jihadists do *not* laud Jihadists butchering innocent people.
Mark Swan says
Good Point
gravenimage says
Thanks, Mark.
Cecilia Ellis says
“Real Anti-Jihadists do *not* laud Jihadists butchering innocent people.”
Graven, precisely correct, and I agree with Mark. Your point is excellent! I recall the Western response to the horrific 3-day siege at Beslan, in 2004, which culminated in the massacre of over 300 people, 186 of them children. We were appalled … and remain such. Western anti-jihadists then did not dance in the streets, pass out candy, excuse or praise the Muslim attackers, or avoid naming the enemy — and, therefore, knowing the enemy. Nor do they now. The problem, however, remains: We love life; jihadists love death … and they will go to any conceivable savage tactic to prove that demonic principle. To use a word that you so frequently and aptly use, this incident is “repulsive,” as are those who condone, enable or support it … by word, action or inaction.
dumbledoresarmy says
OR one could go further back, to the discussions that took place here at jihadwatch when the Chechen Muslim jihadists attacked primary school kiddies and their parents, at Beslan, in ?2004.
NOBODY said “ooooh they got what they deserved”. NOBODY.
People were angry at the despicable jihadists and felt sad right along with the Russian victims and their families.
Mazo says
Idiot alert!
The kids at Beslan were ethnic Ossetian.
If Ossetians are Russians because of their citizenship, then Chechens are “Russian Muslims” and it was Russians attacking Russians.
Angemon says
Mazo posted:
“Idiot alert!”
Once again, thank you for alerting new users to the fact that you are an idiot.
“The kids at Beslan were ethnic Ossetian.
If Ossetians are Russians because of their citizenship”
Which, well, they *were*.
“then Chechens are “Russian Muslims” and it was Russians attacking Russians.”
Ah, the ever popular false equivalence. Islam teaches muslims to reject any form of collective identification that is not the ummah or global islamic community. A devout follower of islam is supposed to consider himself a muslim above all and eschew all other forms of collective identification – citizenship included. Plus the usual kicking up of sand and muddying of water by trying to conflate religion (islam) with ethnicity (Ossetian).
Christianblood says
gravenimage
US Government Actually Planned And Funded A Failed Muslim Conquest Of Russia As Far Back As The 1950s. Read it below: http://www.infowars.com/did-you-know-the-cia-planned-a-muslim-invasion-of-russia-2/
Angemon says
Christianblood posted
“gravenimage
US Government Actually Planned And Funded A Failed Muslim Conquest Of Russia As Far Back As The 1950s. Read it below: ”
I’m just going to repeat what I posted the other times you made that spurious claim:
Anyway, this is just more of your usual sand tossing. GI rightfully noted that people here never gloated or cheered jihad attacks in Russia while your knee-jerk reaction to a jihad attack in France was to not only say that the French deserved it and worse but also stand on the still-warm bodies and try to spread Kremlin-sponsored propaganda.
You have zero empathy for other people and you have no qualms about desecrating the dead. You’re a ghoul, CB. Someone who feeds on the dead. Whatever it is you are, you’re not a Christian, that’s for sure.
Cecilia Ellis says
Mazo wrote: “Idiot alert! The kids at Beslan were ethnic Ossetian. If Ossetians are Russians because of their citizenship, then Chechens are ‘Russian Muslims’ and it was Russians attacking Russians.”
Mazo, your reply, which began with an ad hominem attack, was directed at whom? Certainly it could not be Gravenimage, as she made no comment about Beslan. That leaves either me or DDA as your target. Since you did not bother to take the initiative to respond to a specific individual or to quote a specific statement, I will take responsibility for being your target. As such, I offer the following facts, repeat, facts:
1. The posted article recounted the slaughter of, at the time, 60 people due to a truck crashing into a crowd in Nice, France. That fact did not appear to disturb you, as it elicited no statement of concern for the victims.
2. Gravenimage made no comment regarding any references to Chechens or ethnic Ossetians, the majority of whom, by the way, are Christians. Nor did I.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossetians
3. While DDA did use the adjective “Chechen” to identify the globally-known background of some of the Muslim attackers, both of us referred to the Beslan school siege of September 1, 2004. DDA was accurate in the use of the term “Chechen Muslims,” although Chechen, Ingush, Slavic, and Arab Muslims comprised the terrorist group of 31 responsible for the atrocities. Again, you offered no disdain at the wholesale slaughter of children or adults at the hands of Muslim savages. Perhaps you have forgotten the three-day, 1200-plus hostage event that occurred where … well, in the province of Ossetia, located in … Russia. The following one-hour documentary, “Children of Beslan,” should refresh your memory:
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/children-beslan/
4. Your comment, “Chechens are ‘Russian Muslims’ and it was Russians attacking Russians,” in no way is related to anything stated by Graven, DDA or myself. Despite that, you failed to address the barbarity of the Beslan attack. Slaughter does not bother you, just statements that Islam bears primary responsibility.
Mazo says
Ossetia is an autonomous republic in Russia for ethnic Ossetians who are not Slavs.
The Ingush, who are related to Chechens, have a long running border dispute between the Ingushetia Republic and Ossetia Republic which has led to ethnic hatred between Ossetians and Ingush.
The autonomous republics within the Russiam Federation are for specific minority ethnicities like Karelians, Tatars, Ossetians, Ingush, Chechens, Buryats, Tuvans etc.
Ethnic Russians are not Ossetians.
Angemon says
Mazo, July 15, 2016 at 2:52 am:
“If Ossetians are Russians because of their citizenship”
Mazo. July 16, 2016 at 1:43 am
“Ethnic Russians are not Ossetians.”
Terrible sleight of hand, moron. Pick a story and stick with it.
Mazo says
The morons need to stick with a narrative.
Chechens and Ossetians are both citizens of Russia but not ethnic Russian Slavs.
If the morons do not desire to look stupid, when referring to both of them, either refer to both of them as of Russian nationality or refer to both of them by ethnicity and not refer to one as “Russian” and the other by ethnicity.
Angemon says
Mazo posted:
“The morons need to stick with a narrative.”
That’s what I told you, dumbass. Have you done it?
“Chechens and Ossetians are both citizens of Russia but not ethnic Russian Slavs.”
Oh, now you’re bringing up Slavs? So I take it it’s a “No” – you haven’t picked a story to stick with. More sand from the usual tosser…
“If the morons do not desire to look stupid, when referring to both of them, either refer to both of them as of Russian nationality or refer to both of them by ethnicity and not refer to one as “Russian” and the other by ethnicity.”
No, you retarded cretin, that’s exactly why you look like an imbecile. There’s a group of people waging jihad against another group of people to get their own state. Are you going to conflate the people fighting with the people they’re fighting against? It’s not “Russians waging jihad on Russians to get their own state”. The group of people that is waging jihad is – drum roll, please – *Chechens*. Chechens are waging jihad on Russia to get their own state, and it makes no difference to them whether they are killing Ossetians or Slavs – they’re killing Russians regardless, and they’re doing it to get their own state.
By your muddled, retarded, islamic (but I repeat myself) “logic”, ETA would be described as “Spaniards waging war on Spaniards to get a state of their own”, Scotland would be “British Islanders confronting British Islanders to get a state of their own” and Kurdistan would be “Turks fighting Turks to get their own state”.
Like GI and CE pointed out, your coreligionists tortured, raped and killed innocent children in Beslan, and you, unlike people here, probably cheered up and celebrated in the streets. I bet the horrific descriptions of the torture inflicted by your coreligionists on those innocent children is like porn to you, you sick bastard.
gravenimage says
Exactly, Cecelia and Dumbledore’s Army.
gravenimage says
The appalling Mazo wrote:
The morons need to stick with a narrative.
Chechens and Ossetians are both citizens of Russia but not ethnic Russian Slavs.
If the morons do not desire to look stupid, when referring to both of them, either refer to both of them as of Russian nationality or refer to both of them by ethnicity and not refer to one as “Russian” and the other by ethnicity.
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It did not matter to Jihadists whether their victims were Slavs or Ossetians–as far as they were concerned, they were just “filthy Infidels”.
And the idea that Ossentians and Chechens are both simply non-Slavic Russians is absolute crap. It is the Muslim-majority Chechens who have been waging violent Jihad against Infidel Russians–the Ossentians have not been doing this.
Just more obfuscation from the apologist for evil.
Of course, he says *nothing* about his coreligionist mass murdering innocent people in Nice–nor will he. Instead, he just goes on (attempting) to undermine anyone who dares oppose this savagery.
mccode says
(Obviously France needs to have tighter big rig controls in place.) // sarc…..
Malicious evil-doers will utilize whatever means are at hand.
Scott says
After all, he “gunned” the accelerator//more sarc…..
Lee says
No Muslim should ever be allowed to drive a car or truck or fly an airplane. They should never be allowed to drive cabs.
TheOldOligarch says
This will wake a few more people up, and the next massacre a few more, and the next one a few more. Westerners are a stubborn lot though, it’s going to take a great deal more pain before the mass of sleepwalking drones finally accept the lesson.
Mockingjay says
Yes.
Michele Fraser says
I wonder when Europeans and soon to be North Americans will realize that Islam is at war with the west.
Scott says
When we get real leaders and sweep out the “Newspeakers” from “1984”.
Until then, we’re just sliding down the slippery slope, wondering how many will have to die and be forever maimed while we wait.
Lee says
There are some of us who have known it for a long time but when the Islamic connections of the Dallas shooter are suppressed you know that the government is probably now on their side.
dumbledoresarmy says
Not just the *west*.
Islam is at war with the entire non-Muslim *world*.
And that is stated quite plainly not only in the Quran but in the Sira of Ibn Ishaq.
Ishaq: 204 – “‘Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man [Muhammad]?’ ‘Yes. In swearing allegiance to him we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.’”
Ishaq:231 – “Muslims are one ummah (community) to the exclusion of all men. Believers are friends of one another to the exclusion of all outsiders.”
gravenimage says
Yes–the West is a major target, but Muslims are slaughtering Infidels all over the world.
Nigel GFF says
One thing we know is that trucks don’t kill, people do. City of Nice mayor suggests many (30+) killed and 100+ injured along ‘Promenade des Anglais’.
Now tracking accomplices 23.20 GMT (driver shot dead).
Scott says
Ain’t Multiculturalism Grand?
mortimer says
France has a particularly bad image with Muslims, because of the hijab issue and because of its institutional secularism.
France is considered a particular enemy of Islam by many Muslims, even though many want to move to France.
Muslims see no contradiction between hating France and sponging off of the French.
Oliver says
During WW2-Paris ahd a large Muslim population, and they suffered not from German occupation. Nor did most French- EXCLUDING FRENCH JEWS, who were executed by the thousands. Read Soldiering for Freedom by Obermayer)
And France is still in denial about Muslims, and still anti-Semetic and anti-israel.
Perhaps if some high level frog politicans were kileld or injured, migth wake them up.
biff says
Must ban trucks now and guns.
Driving while Muslim is the latest act of terror.
JAR says
That could probably be called DUII…Driving Under the Influence of Islam.
gravenimage says
Yes–as much as I hate alcohol abuse, I’d rather deal with drunk drivers any day of the week.
susi says
The sooner “people”, if not “leaders”, in the west pull their heads out of their asses and realize this is an existential struggle the better off we’ll be.
The “leaders” will never see it. Because they “know best”.
They are just like the German Jews. When Hitler was rising to power, they didn’t believe he meant what he was saying, about destroying them.
Sometimes these sorts need to be taken at face value and their words not construed as rhetoric. Some people just need killing…
Richard Paulsen says
Regrets. Like Iraq.
gravenimage says
France: 60 dead in likely jihad attack as truck crashes into Bastille Day crowd in Nice, driver exchanges gunfire with police
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Oh, God–first I’ve heard of this. Clearly not an innocent traffic accident.
God, I hate Islam.
Steve Klein says
The Hill reports: ‘Pence tweet attacking Trump’s Muslim ban resurfaces’
Pence tweeted: “Calls to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. are offensive and unconstitutional”
Kay says
Do wannabe immigrants actually have Constitutional rights?
Steve Klein says
One would think not. Andrew McCarthy wrote a great piece on this issue; religion must be considered for refugees based on U.S. law. I was looking for it earlier.
Iggy A says
The NY Daily article – possibly a service feed – didn’t mention anything about the driver — so I assume that means he in Middle Eastern – otherwise they’ve had quickly reported it to dispel Islamaphobia.
There were a string of these type events in the 1980s in the US. Mostly NYC, I think. Not as many killed in each incident but the same MO – plowing into crowds are rush hours.
If individuals want to kill, they’ll kill, and they don’t need a gun to take out a high number.
Angemon says
Bloody murder. And France – again? It’s ghastly ironic that earlier today one of the JW articles was about a French government officer talking about “right wingers” criticising the effectiveness of the French government’s measures to combat islamic terrorism and equating it with islamic terrorism…
cs says
LOL,yeah, how dare the right wingers complain about anything.
Georg says
We’ll care for ourselves.
Nigel GFF says
“plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose”
RIP 73
Undaunted says
Here’s how to have a chance at survival when a vehicle is used as a weapon. The thing to remember is that it’s up to you. You need to have a plan. You need to act out that plan. You need to understand that armed cops or unarmed cops… they can’t help you. In event of any terror attack they need to be and should be and ~ God help us ~ they will be finding, fixing and destroying the terror threat, no matter what form it takes. In every single terror attack I’ve reviewed in my professional capacity one thing never changes: the cops fuck up. Yes. They fuck up. Some do so because they are lead by cowards and schmucks and dip-shits who in any violent encounter don’t know whether to shit or go blind. They’re controlled by politicians who don’t care about you. Yeah, you, whatever your name is and wherever you’re perched as you read this. They. Do. Not. Give. A. Shit. About. You.
http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2010/01/whatever-works.html
Most cops are warriors, or at least try to be… I’ll try to give them the benefit of the doubt. But some are in the job for all the wrong reasons. They are the ones who won’t show up; or, when they do, it won’t matter that they’re there because they’ll go to the trunk of their patrol car for teddy bears rather than for a “Go-Bag” full of extra ammo and Snickers bars. They’ll wait for the EOC to be set up, standing in circles checking their social media devices to see what’s trending while “leaders” wait for the tactical Winnebago to AOS so they can shuffle in and pretend they’re in charge.
You need to have a plan, people. Because you can’t count on the police to save you, no matter how many of them are Blue Knights.
gravenimage says
I don’t have the same jaundiced view of the police that you do, Undaunted–but it is true that especially in the first minutes of a terrorist attack that you often *are* on your own, and need to have a game plan.
You might want to post a link to your site here. I know you have some tips on your blog that might save a reader’s life.
Undaunted says
It’s not jaundiced, GI. As a former cop, I see how things are not as they should be based on the threat we face.
I love cops. I know there are many bad-ass boys and girls in blue and green who will be doing all they can to save the day and I pray no “supervisor” gets in the way. An example: there were several cops who wanted to continue the counterattack against the Orlando shooter… but a supervisor called them back and told them to wait for SWAT. How many innocents died because that pencil-pusher called back those warriors?
Thanks. GI.
gravenimage says
Thanks, Undaunted.
As I have noted here before, my grandfather was a police superintendent in England long before it was infected with “political correctness”.
I think you’re right–most of the cops in the field have *no* interest in appeasing Jihad terrorists.
Mak says
Let’s see if Obama starts putting even more regulation on our police force. Maybe he can disarm the American police force. It’s all part of his plan to ensure a proper Islamic takeover of the US. Ugh!
Undaunted says
They fucked up in their response to the shooters at San Berndardino IRC…
http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2016/01/told-you-so.html
Cecilia Ellis says
Death toll updated one minute ago to 73.
How sad … carnage among the softest of targets.
gravenimage says
This should not just make us sad–but also *angry*.
Cecilia Ellis says
Absolutely, Graven … not just angry, but enraged.
Undaunted says
And… then what?
gravenimage says
Undaunted, I was not suggesting anger be an end in and of itself.
I just meant that all too many otherwise decent people treat Jihad terror attacks as thought they were just sad occasions with no malice, like an earthquake or innocent human error–as if, for instance, this driver had had his brakes go out or dozed at the wheel.
One of the first steps–one that, surprisingly, all too many still have not made–is acknowledging that that these are deliberate and vicious attacks against us.
Cecilia Ellis says
“And… then what?”
Undaunted, your question is great! First of all, it now appears that the death toll has now, this moment, been updated to 75. There is a world war going on now. To fight that war, it would help if those who whine about law enforcement and who demand political correctness would relocate the current position of their heads so that they can read the handwriting on the wall. That thin blue line keeps order … keeps us safe. A good starting point would be for the Obama administration to define the enemy in non-politically correct, clear terms and to, once-and-for-all, actually support law enforcement, profiling, surveillance, and other intelligence-gathering tools legally available. That means that people have to get angry enough to vote for someone who actually intends to destroy ISIS, to ban Muslim immigration temporarily from those countries where Muslim terrorists are rife, and someone who addresses Islamic terrorism by name, not by terms such as “overseas violent extremism” or “workplace violence.”
This cannot continue … There is a looming disaster …
Undaunted says
Cecelia; you’re right. A world war is going on now.
As Winston Churchill warned about the burgeoning Nazi threat in the 30’s, as he fought the PC bullshit and fearlessly stood against the hand-wringers and pussies and so-called elite of his day, so must we all rise, with Robert here and… wherever, speak the truth.
Islam is submission to a false prophet and to Satan. Period. Of that I have no doubt.
And then what?
That’s a decision I made long ago and to which I have committed again and again as years have passed… I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
At the very end of the post linked to below is my battle cry and I hope it’s yours.
http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2014/09/still-crazy-after-all-these-years.html
Behold your light has come…
Cecilia Ellis says
Undaunted, thanks for your reply. I share your battle cry and, by the way, the article itself was excellent. I just forwarded it to my law enforcement friends. Greater though do I share your belief as expressed in Romans 8:38-39. In addition, I join with you in asserting, “Be strong and courageous, for the Lord your God will be with you wherever you go.” (Joshua 1:9)
So, my friend, “Hey, be safe out there.” But know that you are not alone … nothing can separate us from the love of God.
Undaunted says
Celia… I weep.
Nothing. Nothing. Nothing… can separate us from the love of God which is Christ Jesus.
That’s the foundation of courage.
Cecilia Ellis says
Amen, Undaunted.
gravenimage says
Undaunted, thank you for citing what Winston Churchill and other anti-Fascists went through in warning people about the Nazi threat. The parallels to today are striking.
John Marst says
Radical Muslims carry out terrorist attacks. Moderate Muslims smile.
All Islam is a fifth column. It is only a matter of degrees.
Lee says
The “moderate Muslims celebrate and hand out candy” but they also pay for it even if they don’t do it personally. Muslim charity, Halal and Sharia finance all help pay for jihad terror as they were originally designed to do.
Eur says
Vive la France, fuck islam. Liberte, egalite, franternite. This is war,weak up , ban islam, in every west countries atrás grey same time, together.
Mark Swan says
Vive la France
Veritas says
There was a similar incident in Graz, Austria last year perpetrated by a Bosnian who drove his car into several people killing them and then got out and tried to stab others.
The Austrian authorities at the time covered up other likely causes of the crime by alleging that the perpetrator was psychologically disturbed.
However, he was a follower of the religion of peace, and deleted his social media information before he committed the crime. He had many contacts in the Middle East.
gravenimage says
There has been a lot of vehicular Jihad, including North Carolina and the San Francisco SUV killer, both a decade ago. This tactic has been used many times in Israel, as well.
Oliver says
I recall reading- numerous times- that on (either or both) Xmas and New Year’s Muslims (in Paris) burn cars; stores, etc.
AND ONE EYAR, a few years back, the PM boaste dthat only Y number of cars and businesses were destroyed, the lwoest number in a few years. AS IF THIS WAS AN ACHIEVEMENT.
In my non pc view- the frogs have no balls. never did.
gravenimage says
Yes–this is now a sick annual “tradition”:
“Muslims set over 800 cars ablaze in France on New Year’s Eve”
http://pamelageller.com/2016/01/muslims-set-over-800-cars-ablaze-in-france-on-new-years-eve.html/
Ed Lee says
This is nothing new. France has had a problem with Islamic terrorism for decades. I have a friend whose family left Paris and came to the U.S. in the early 1970s because they had relatives killed in several jihad terror bombings.
awake says
How much more are western countries going to take. How much longer should the citizens of these countries be lined up for slaughter due to their respective traitorous governments?
Hollande’s response could be paramount, but then again, since Merkel is still breathing, the situation is beyond dire and the answer to my first rhetorical question appears to be far too much longer.
marc says
WARNING horrific video. Seeing as this was pulled as soon as it was posted, I grabbed it here https://freespeechdefense.net/islamic-celebration-of-bastille-day-in-nice/
Mockingjay says
I’ve no need for graphic images, thank you.
Undaunted says
So; you’re all fired up without the “graphics”, then? Or just can’t take the gore.
As a former homicide detective, I’ve seen the bloody bodies, the “graphic” stuff about which we’re so ardently warned as we, trembling, decide whether we want to watch some people twitching on the ground or crushed/mangled on some soon-to-be ” viral clip.
Nice grab, Marc. And thank you for posting it. I loved it. From it we can see the fruit of Islam. By their fruit you shall know them…if you don’t look at the fruit you won’t know your enemy and then you won’t know how to fight them… or why.
Mockingjay… man the fuck up.
Mockingjay says
Aren’t the “dry” facts horrible enough in themselves?
I cannot see the added value of seeing people die on video.
Oliver says
I agree with Mockingjay-
the facts are bad enough; no need to see the gore-unless want to or could help solve somethign-professionally. In this case (I did not open to see)-i can see no purpose.
Just my view
Myxlplik says
I agree, people must see it, so that they can understand the full gravity of this evil we are up against.
The more real the understanding the greater the wisdom.
Undaunted says
No, Mockingjay. Facts are not enough… until they make you cry because you do nothing to alter them.
marc says
@Mockingjay
Sun Tzu, arguably the best leader of men said:
“If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles.”
Now this is pertinent, nothing less, when social media, and the legacy news keep whitewashing islamic savagery, the way to expose the savages for what they are is a video like this.
@Undaunted
Proud to have you amongst us.
Undaunted says
Been here a while. Thanks. Proud to be on the team.
gravenimage says
Hear, hear!
gravenimage says
Thank you, Marc. Just *horrifying*. Here’s another video of the aftermath:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqmv7yN3PEA
Not sure how long the link will be good. If you have the tech capabilities, copy it now.
billybob says
OMG!
Undaunted says
San Diego PD fucked up…
http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2015/11/americas-finest.html
cs says
Shall we bet on the name of the attackers?
Mohammed? Ahmed? Abdul? Hassan? What is your bet?
Myxlplik says
How about Islam al Britani?
Dude says
My bet is Mohammed Ahmed Abdul Hassan.
Shall we bet on whether he is a “Syrian refugee?” I bet yes.
Jaladhi says
Muhammadallah is a better name!!
gravenimage says
The driver is Tunisian:
“France: Nice jihad murderer is Muslim of Tunisian origin”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/07/france-nice-jihad-murderer-is-muslim-of-tunisian-origin
gravenimage says
And yes, cs–his name *was* Mohamed–Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel, to be exact.
Lemlem says
We discussed about Islam with my French friend awhile ago. He does not believe Islam is bad even after all the Paris or Brussel and everwhere. He told me evangelicals worse than Islam. They are well informed and they adamant there is problem. They have no clue what Islam is all about. It is sad, but thing are getting worse by day and Islamicists are well organised and work underground. You can see none of their actions can be aborted.
marie says
I am French and I am sad your French friends are so dumb on the topic of Islam. I am not, and I am not alone to be aware of the burning issue of Islamization.
gravenimage says
Bless you, Marie, and bless all French patriots!
Here’s the Marseillaise:
Undaunted says
Vive la France, Vive la liberté.
“To arms, citizens…”
In English:
Arise children of the fatherland
The day of glory has arrived
Against us tyranny’s
Bloody standard is raised
Listen to the sound in the fields
The howling of these fearsome soldiers
They are coming into our midst
To cut the throats of your sons and consorts
To arms citizens Form your battalions
March, march
Let impure blood
Water our furrows
What do they want this horde of slaves
Of traitors and conspiratorial kings?
For whom these vile chains
These long-prepared irons?
Frenchmen, for us, ah! What outrage
What methods must be taken?
It is us they dare plan
To return to the old slavery!
What! These foreign cohorts!
They would make laws in our courts!
What! These mercenary phalanxes
Would cut down our warrior sons
Good Lord! By chained hands
Our brow would yield under the yoke
The vile despots would have themselves be
The masters of destiny
Tremble, tyrants and traitors
The shame of all good men
Tremble! Your parricidal schemes
Will receive their just reward
Against you we are all soldiers
If they fall, our young heros
France will bear new ones
Ready to join the fight against you
Frenchmen, as magnanimous warriors
Bear or hold back your blows
Spare these sad victims
That they regret taking up arms against us
But not these bloody despots
These accomplices of Bouillé
All these tigers who pitilessly
Ripped out their mothers’ wombs
We too shall enlist
When our elders’ time has come
To add to the list of deeds
Inscribed upon their tombs
We are much less jealous of surviving them
Than of sharing their coffins
We shall have the sublime pride
Of avenging or joining them
Drive on sacred patriotism
Support our avenging arms
Liberty, cherished liberty
Join the struggle with your defenders
Under our flags, let victory
Hurry to your manly tone
So that in death your enemies
See your triumph and our glory!
gravenimage says
The Marseillaise was a rallying point to the free French during WWII.
Marie says
Thanks undaunted and gravenimage for your kind and precious words! Vive la France and God bless America!
gravenimage says
Thank you, Marie! Vive La France!
Jaladhi says
This has telltale signs of Muslim attack. How long the West is going to tolerate these murderous attacks by Muslims and sacrifice their innocent civilians? Or the Western apologists of Islam are already out explaining it was not Islamic. The Western leaders are responsible for these attacks by their inaction. They are more worried about their minority Muslim population rather than the majority of citizens who are being killed. When the peasants rise, it will be ugly!
Myxlplik says
I’m mostly worried about hijab discrimination, luckily the EU just overturned the workplace hijab ban otherwise Muslims might have been upset.
Ciudadano says
This continuous, piecemeal, attack on non-Muslims can be expected in any country with a sizable Muslim population. The final goal is to submit non Muslims to Islam. History shows these tactics are not new to Islam. Spain’s “Reconquista” drove Muslims out of Iberian peninsula because Spaniards were fed up of enduring these crap.
Myxlplik says
Very true, it’s so painful that this all has to be relearned.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=91-NpyEKXWU
Ciudadano says
Great video! Thanks so much.
Wellington says
As an aside, both fitting and disturbing I would contend, Theresa May, who has shilled for Islam nauseatingly so, for whatever indefensible reasons, just became PM yesterday. Yes, this most recent Islamic barbarism occurred in France but I couldn’t help but note that another fool has taken the helm just right across the English Channel.
Small world you know. Getting ever smaller. And made all the more small in a very different way by small people in the West running things———like Theresa May. She will not learn. Hollande will not learn. Merkel will not learn. Trudeau will not learn. God knows Obama will never learn. Hillary neither (hell, she’ll even be complicit). The BBC will not learn. The MSM in America will not learn. Respecting most Western academics, well, need I say more? Hell of a lot of non-learners in the West right now. Hell of a lot.
Islam profits by this ignorance as it profits by all kinds of ignorance, though it never profits by truth. NEVER. Time for a whole new set of Western leaders to realize this—–to say this—–and to act upon this.
Keys says
Here here, Wellington!
Mark Swan says
Absolutely
Custos Custodum says
In this case, we are talking about illicit income from Saudis, Iranians, and the local Muslim front organizations (often with lucrative sidelines from drug smuggling, pimping etc.)
Wiser says
The new normal?
marie says
I am French, living in Paris, and it is enough. They transform our country into the land of terror attacks… I don’t want to be used to that.
Lee says
Will you vote Le Pen? She alone would seem willing to end the farce.
Marie says
She is the only one to have common sense. It is a shame for the other politicians.
Peggy says
Just keep spreading the truth. Talk to anyone who will listen and hopefully they will then spread the truth too.
I am so sick and tired of hearing about these horrible massacres. How many more do we have to have before this problem is properly addressed? Why do our children have to inherit such conditions? They deserve better from us now but instead of at least warning them about Islam so many are still deceiving them and indoctrinating them in schools.
The misery this evil inflicts on innocent people is horrible.
I wish these monsters would go after Obama, Cameron, Hillary and the rest of their enablers instead of innocent people.
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“Just keep spreading the truth.”
Are you talking about the actual truth or your spurious claim about a worldwide conspiracy of Western governments using islam to kill and enslave their citizens?
Marie says
Yes, I share my opinions with people. Carefully, to make them understand that this situation is absurd and we should fight for our contry and civilization.
marc says
I think the answer is to leave the EU as the UK just did, they are the ones dictating your requirement to host these parasitic savages.
I Spent some of my time growing up in france in the early 70s, I went back 8 years ago. It is unrecognisable, maybe you don’t notice, as it happened so slowly, an insidious infection.
ALL my family have left now, Jew’s don’t hang around, no one watches out for us, we learn’t our lesson, so we left. So sorry that happened to you, I wish France listened. my wife misses crepe, real cider, Foie gras and tripe (yes I know).
Je pense que la réponse est de quitter l’UE comme le Royaume-Uni vient de le faire , ce sont eux qui dictent votre exigence d’accueillir ces sauvages parasites .
Je passé une partie de mon temps de grandir en France au début des années 70 , je suis retourné il y a 8 ans . Il est méconnaissable , peut-être vous ne remarque pas , comme il est arrivé si lentement , une infection insidieuse .
Toute ma famille a quitté maintenant , juif de ne pas traîner , on ne regarde pour nous , nous learn’t notre leçon , donc nous sommes partis . Donc désolé qui vous est arrivé , je souhaite France écouté . ma femme manque crêpe, véritable cidre , foie gras et les tripes (oui je sais ) .
Marie says
Dear marc, thank for your post!
Indeed, I am too young to have known this period, even though I remember that life was calmer in the 90s as I was a child.
I am so sorry for your Jewish family that had to leave France.
Your French is amazing.
marc says
Lol, I live in French Canada but in an English community, I use Google translate a lot, so I can read the results to know they make sense. I grew up in Brest, that has not been too badly affected, there were never many jews there, I was an English kid in France rather than a Jew in France i guess. But Paris, which I visited regularly for decades, the culture has been decimated over that period. Juan-les-Pins which I had family in is still pretty OK, but the Jews are leaving now, which is a very bad sign of whats coming there. I think marseille is totally lost.
gravenimage says
Thank you for telling us about your experiences, Marc.
dumbledoresarmy says
Marie
Remember Charles Martel.
Remember Jean Parisot de Valette, who led the Knights of St John in defending Malta – the western gate – against a vast Ottoman Muslim fleet.
Remember the many French who have seen Islam clearly and said what they saw.
Look up what Voltaire said; what De Tocqueville said. Montesquieu, also.
Remember Jacques Ellul: he discusses the Jihad in the foreword he wrote for his friend the scholar Bat Yeor, pioneer of studies in the phenomenon of Dhimmitude, for her book “The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam”. Look it up.
Do you know of Robert Redeker? He wrote an article for Le Figaro, about Islam and Islamisation in France, in 2006. An excellent article, beautifully written, every line of it the truth; and he was hounded out of his job and had to go into hiding because of Muslim threats.
Courage, mon amie.
My deepest condolences to the bereaved; my good wishes to the injured, that they may make a swift recovery; and every encouragement to the French law enforcement and intelligence – and the military, I hope – as they respond. Personally I think it’s time to come down like the hammers of God upon every known mosque in France. Every. single. one. Because this, like all the previous attacks, was nothing less than an act of war, carried out against the French nation by Muslim assassins acting on behalf of the Ummah, the Mohammedan mob, the ‘dar al Islam’. It is war. And the mosques are the Muslims’ forts and military bases and arsenals and recruitment-and-incitement points and they need to be targeted and they need to be… REMOVED.
Let the Free French say that, over and over, to all their politicians and to M Le President, Francois Holland. Tell him you want to see the *army* pouncing on the mosques – and ‘islamic centres’ and ‘islamic schools’ and ‘islamic bookshops’ – *before* they have a chance to hide or move anything. And tell him that if the Mohammedan mob riots in response they must be treated as enemy combatants and enemy agents, because that is what they are.
Marie says
Thanks dumbledoresarmy for your comment and your wise, strong words.
Thanks for remembering the name of all these French people who stand up to defend our Civilization based on Christianity against the assault of Islam.
The atmosphere in France is tense, people are fed up. They are changing. Islamists killed children, now the abomination is reached.
dumbledoresarmy says
Marie
I don’t know whether you’ll come back to this thread, but just in case you do: here is something I discovered a little while ago. The hymn that St Therese of Lisieux wrote as an invocation of St Jeanne d’Arc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=CO&hl=es-419&v=wb7zokdXbnY
For those free French who are Cathoiic Christians this hymn should be a rallying cry.
Imagine if 500 people, or a thousand, were to meet on the promenade in Nice, and first sing the Marseillaise, yes, and THEN… *this*.
“Sainte Jeanne de France
Notre espérance repose en vous
Sainte Jeanne de France
Priez, priez pour nous.”
gravenimage says
Thanks for posting that, DDA.
And Marie, here’s “Chant des Partisans” from WWII:
Cecilia Ellis says
FoxNews is just now reporting that two Americans were killed in this attack … a father and his son. Death toll is now at least 80.
gravenimage says
And there are three UC Berkeley students in the hospital–and one still missing.
John Rousseau says
You can blame your politically correct politicians for this. Now the chickens are coming home to roost,but do they care? They’ll just fuck off somewhere that is safe. I think you French people should be pointing these fools out, demanding why their treacherous behaviour should be excused. Time to reintroduce the guillotine again, that might wake these treasonists up. “Vive la France”. John Rousseau from Australia with French ancestry
from St Malo.
Marie says
Yes, we should make them accountable for their actions. There will be elections soon, the results can be damaging for this coalition of unable politicians.
Peggy says
Mazo says
July 14, 2016 at 10:19 pm
Hindus read the above post to see how much the vegemite consumers despise all Asians whether Hindu, Buddhist or any other religion.
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Are you trying to insult us by calling us Vegemite consumers? That’s not an insult at all. I happen to love Vegemite.
Contrary to your claim that we hate all Asians including Hindus and Buddhists, most of us don’t have any prejudice there. Australia is a very fair and tolerant country. Most people will be happy to give you a fair go, including the Muslims but you have done your dash now.
gravenimage says
Exactly, Peggy–Australia is very fair and civilized, and has equal rights for all. Unlike Dar-al-Islam…
Marie says
First hashtag trending on Twitter in France now is “IslamHorsdEurope”. A heated debate on twitter on the presence of Muslim communities in France and in Europe.