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France: Fearing jihad massacres, Catholic Church sells off statues of monks beheaded by Muslims

Jul 8, 2016 2:42 pm By Robert Spencer

Muslims might be offended, so we must stop doing whatever it is that might offend them. That is universal policy in the West these days. No other group is accorded such consideration. And above all, we must not do anything to draw attention to the Muslim persecution of Christians. That might harm the wonderful “dialogue” that the Church is conducting with Muslim leaders — a “dialogue” that hasn’t prevented a single church from being burned down or a single Christian from being murdered. Isn’t that right, Bishop McManus?

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“Fearing Attacks, Catholic Church Gets Rid of Statues of Monks Beheaded By Muslims,” by Virginia Hale, Breitbart, July 8, 2016:

A Catholic church in Lyon, France, has sold off statues of monks killed by Muslims, for fear they will provoke attacks.

The statues, which were to be shown at Saint Louis church, honoured monks who were beheaded by Muslims in Algeria during the 1990s. The Algerian consul in the city responded with “fury” to the statues. The church sold the statues to an institute that hosts a private museum of Catholic artifacts to prevent conflict with local Muslims.

Cardinal Barbarin approved the statues to be placed in the church’s grounds last year. But the more powerful Bishop of Lyon was persuaded by his personal entourage by arguments that the statues may cause Muslims to launch attacks on the works. The Bishop’s aides argued, “Imagine if [someone] unbalanced [were to] to decapitate these statues?”.

They argued that because there is a Salafist mosque very close to the church, such attacks may be likely. As a result of this the Bishop of Lyon decided to sell the statues to a museum.

The church had already delayed the inauguration of the statues to appease the Algerian consulate. They planned for their official launch to happen in the spring of this year. The date was moved to avoid clashing with Algerian Independence Day.

Some in the area feared the statues would provoke Muslims. The Socialist Party mayor of Lyon, Miriam Poot, said she didn’t want the statues and that the church should first have consulted the district council.

French Catholic officials in Algeria were also more than reluctant about the statues being placed at the church. Lyonnais Jean-Paul Vesco, Bishop of Oram, said he worried that they would provoke attacks on them. The Catholic priest feared the message of the statues would be religious war or “embezzlement”….

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  1. Angemon says

    Jul 8, 2016 at 2:48 pm

    Abject appeasement.

    • ninetyninepct says

      Jul 9, 2016 at 4:08 pm

      The cult of Islam has to realize that felling “offended” is just that, a feeling. I DON’T CARE how they feel, just like I don’t care if they feel lonely or hungry or wet or cold or stupid. I am certain they all feel UGLY and that many feel they look like monkeys with faces covered in stupid dirty hair.

      It is just a feeling, an opinion. Why are humans kissing Islam’s ass. I really don’t give a damn how followers of the cult of Islam feel or think. I DON’T CARE. Really.

      There is something I care about, and that is buying more ammunition.

    • b.a. freeman says

      Jul 9, 2016 at 10:13 pm

      absolutely. it is a repulsive display of groveling and self-abasement that is entirely unwarranted. do we have free speech or not? if muslims cannot obey the law, they should either be imprisoned for breaking it (if citizens) or be thrown out of the country. this is war, and for the most part, europeans don’t even know it.

      this being eurabia, however, the muslims will win. the traitorous left has ensured that there will be a blood-soaked civil war in every eurabian country. the blood will be on the hands of lying leftist leaders. hopefully, europeans and not muslims will win, and the left will be as discredited as nazis. people being people, though, i have my doubts…

  2. Hugh Fitzgerald says

    Jul 8, 2016 at 2:49 pm

    But why stop there? Why not require the elimination of any mention of those monks, and how they died, from the history books, lest Muslims become inflamed?

    • Charli Main says

      Jul 8, 2016 at 3:14 pm

      History is already being enthusiastically re-written by Western historians.

      The Crusades were not a series of wars to try to liberate Christian counties that had been invaded by Muslims from Saudi Arabia, they were an unprovoked attack on peaceful Muslims aimed at driving them off ” their land”

      The bloody, 800 year Muslim occupation of Spain, where the preceding Romano-Iberian and Visigoth civilizations were brought to the point of extinction, is now the ” Golden Age” of Islamic Spain

      The horrors of the 400 year Muslim Turk occupation of Eastern Europe, where tens of millions of Christian women and male children were dragged out of their homes and sold off as sex slaves in markets all over Africa and Asia, has been swept under the carpet. Nothing must be said that might hinder all those peace loving Turks from joining the European Union.

      • Phobic-ist says

        Jul 8, 2016 at 4:04 pm

        Excellent summary. I weep for this and future generations.

      • Bukkdem Jizheads says

        Jul 9, 2016 at 8:18 pm

        Well said, sir. Every Roman statue in Turkey I saw is decapitated and genitally mutilated so the concern is valid.

        On another tangent, do you think the failure of every American country colonized by Spain or Portugal can be traced to that Muslim mindset from the occupation? These countries followed the pattern of raping and looting the people instead of the rest of Europe wanting to establish profitable villages, even if slavery was involved. The ‘machismo’ ethic is responsible for a lot of raping, including that of children. I see a Muslim influence and the ensuing poverty of their ways.

    • JOHN SPIELMAN says

      Jul 9, 2016 at 7:58 am

      why not go further with appeasement and have those faithful Catholics in that church just cut their own heads off as sign of their submission to islam?

    • Shane says

      Jul 9, 2016 at 11:52 am

      France, Belgium, Sweden, the UK and Germany have accepted dhimmi status to Islam; won’t be long before they are all Islamic Republics.

  3. Westman says

    Jul 8, 2016 at 3:02 pm

    When it can be anticipated, in advance, that the “religion of peace” will be destructive and violent, then it is NOT a religion of peace.

    How do American Muslims, seeing what their brethren do in Europe and the Islamic countries, have any pride in Islam? It must take a super-compartmented mind to not be embarassed. Where is the current good, peaceful, in attitude and deed, face of Islam?

    • Shane says

      Jul 9, 2016 at 11:58 am

      Muslims who want to live in peace with infidels are perverting Islam, not the violent muslims who want to convert, make submit, or kill the infidels. If Mo were alive today, he would be leading ISIS.
      Is ISIS Islamic, Part 1?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FJqCVZ-yOE
      The Basics of Islam 1: Islamophobia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL7v4RCp0KU
      The Basics of Islam 3: Was Muhammad Peaceful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsbRHyuooZY

    • george dypevag says

      Jul 9, 2016 at 4:16 pm

      UNESCO recons Islam is the most peaceful religion on earth and has given them a certificate to prove it. All it proves is that
      UNESCO are blind to facts.

  4. UriahB says

    Jul 8, 2016 at 3:19 pm

    I remember when the taliban in Afghanistan blew up the historic monuments and statues, in the early 90s? I dont remember the date. But I do remember the public outcry. Nil. Nada. Zip. I knew then we were doomed. Thousands of more crimes agsinst humanity naturally followed.
    Now somalies wilding? There will be no end to this. Its either them or us, Keep praying.

    • Angry Aussie says

      Jul 8, 2016 at 5:16 pm

      The same can be said about ISIS sweeping through the Middle East and blowing up all pre Islamic monuments. 1400 years of inbreeding can’t ever be undone. We should expect more bad behaviour from these demons. If the world keeps needing reminders that Islam is a religion of peace, that in itself should be alarming enough to take notice.

      In Australia we have a truth speaker by the name of Andrew Bolt. He dared to dissect a recent open letter to the media by the Grant Mufti of Australia, and highlight areas of concern that espoused violence against Australians critical of Islam. His reward for doing so was to hurridly pack his children and move them to safety because Andrew Bolt became an immediate victim of a multitude of death threats for daring to question how Islam can coexist with non Muslim Australians. In typical Islamic bullying, we saw a fine example of “dare to criticise us and we’ll shut you up” (again). (Thank the good Lord for the likes of Paul Murray, Andrew Bolt, Pauline Hanson, George Christensen, Jacqui Lambie and Cory Bernardi. If Australia didn’t at least have those voices in the political arena speaking the truth, we would have a 100% Islamic compliant parliament. Our own poor excuse of a Prime Minister recently held an Iftar at taxpayer expense, to appease the Islamic community, including the very same hate preaching Grand Mufti and his fellow robed inbreds. Brand new crockery and cutlery was used. Heaven forbid filthy kuffar fingers may have tainted the items.

      • Martin says

        Jul 9, 2016 at 6:46 am

        Best not forget the AustraIian Liberty AIIiance.
        KirraIee Smith spent years researching HaIaI certification fees and the impact on society and exposed the rort to the pubIic through senate inquiry. Breny Gaynor, a miIitary officer with middIe eastern inteIIigence gathering experience, exposing funds funneled to organisations with know terrorist Iinks. These peopIe and the ones you mentioned are the up-and-coming community Ieaders and poIiticians AustraIia has to have…

  5. Lizzy says

    Jul 8, 2016 at 3:36 pm

    First the Church welcomes muslims, then they begin to fear them, then they will be annihilated by them. That’s how it goes with islam.

    The Church with its message of peace, love, toleration, love they neighbour and turn the other cheek, is dwindling in numbers. The mosque with it’s message of hatred of other religions, its intolerance and jihad towards other religions is packed to the gills with followers.

    What are we doing wrong here?

    • Mirren10 says

      Jul 8, 2016 at 3:57 pm

      ”What are we doing wrong here?”

      I think the lines are being drawn up.

    • Alexius Comnenus says

      Jul 8, 2016 at 4:12 pm

      As a Christian I believe we have the obligation to defend our faith, our culture, our country and our civilization.
      We love every human being, regardless the color of skin, but we have to draw the line. These people desire the annihilation of everybody else. So we give them the sword and bow our heads?
      Nope! They have to be stopped before its going nuclear.

      • Angry Aussie says

        Jul 8, 2016 at 5:21 pm

        I don’t agree thst we love all. We can not afford to. We must defend with more gusto if we aim to survive and leave a relatively peaceful planet for future generations. Islams insideous tentacles have infiltrated everywhere. It’s hard to undo when we have western leaders actively engaging and dancing with the demons.

    • Judi says

      Jul 8, 2016 at 7:09 pm

      Here in the UK.a few synagogues and Jewish community centres regularly hold “interfaith” getogethers with the muzzscum, the latest being an “iftar” meal to mark the end of ramadam. They really thinks this helps foster community relations. How delusional can you get?

      • Lizzy says

        Jul 9, 2016 at 2:48 am

        I, too, am in the UK. In my local newspaper I see reports of Churches hosting interfaith events and photographs of ‘the community’ regularly attending and smiling in a benign manner. The invitation is never reciprocated, Church leaders and members are never invited to attend within the confines of the mosque. I know this for a fact as, should it happen, it would be headline news, so keen is the newspaper to promote the ropers.

  6. Mirren10 says

    Jul 8, 2016 at 3:55 pm

    *More* sickening, cringing, cowardice and appeasement. I am so *sick* of it. Yet another example, which to my mind, proves that the hierarchy of the Catholic Church are hypocrites all, and actually don’t believe in Christianity, in any way. The Pope is another one, as is the Archbishop of Canterbury.

    Aren’t they supposed to stand as witnesses for their faith, and *lead* their flocks ? Instead, they **spit in the faces of all Christians who have died for their faith, for their God.**. If they **really** believed, they would be afraid of God’s judgement. ( I don’t think he likes cowardly wankers).

    ”The Catholic priest feared the message of the statues would be religious war or “embezzlement”….”

    **Embezzlement** ?? Can anyone explain that bit ?

  7. Ed Lee says

    Jul 8, 2016 at 4:40 pm

    I am currently reading the Qur’an. I am about 3/4 of the way through it, and already I have encountered the phrase “submit to Islam” several dozen times. It appears that the Catholic church is following that mandate with zealous fervor.

  8. Idania says

    Jul 8, 2016 at 4:50 pm

    The whole Western World are more preoccupied with appeasing Muslims than their concern for their own people and their culture. The only one that is protecting its culture is Switzerland. The rest are afraid of them. Hey, they are in our countries, is up to them not to offend us, and to offend us, they are the foreigners. We NEED TO STAND UP BEFORE IS TOO LATE.

  9. Rob says

    Jul 8, 2016 at 5:26 pm

    Dhimmi Dhimmi Dhimmi

  10. grace says

    Jul 8, 2016 at 6:28 pm

    Last year hubby and I lived and toured in France for 3 months, spending a lot of money. It was during that time that I was bombarded daily with bbc reports of the mass invasion of Europe. Of course that is jot how the bbc reporters described the influx but I could see what was happening. There were at that time, it seemed to me, already enough scary looking homeless Africans (and Roma) living around Paris. Now, they have thousands more.

    Hubby wants to return to France, Italy and Spain for another 3 months next year, but I say no because I don’t want to be in that atmosphere of muslims and Africans. If I wanted to see Africans and Moslems, I could go to Africa.

    So I frequently find myself wondering when will countries like France count the cost of loss of tourist dollars as others like myself stop going there. Last year we spent more than $50 000 in France; and that’s money they won’t see from us again. How many others are also turning away from Europe as a travel destination?

  11. Salome says

    Jul 8, 2016 at 6:48 pm

    They were afraid that some nutcase might behead the statues. They’re statues! Some nutcases high on Allah’s religion beheaded the actual people those statues represent. If all they were afraid about was the statues suffering a similar fate, might not that have been a useful and bloodless way of bringing to the fore the lunacy of filling up the country with Muslims and allowing Salafists to preach their poisonous message freely?

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Jul 9, 2016 at 6:29 pm

      They should have put up the statues…. and secretly, in consultation with sappers in the French army, had them suitably **boobytrapped**.

      Sting op. And, while they were at it, the thing to do would be to secretly ‘stake out’ that damned Salafist mosque that, so the article informs us, is “very close to the church”. (Mosques are often built right next to important infidel installations; this is the equivalent of the aggressive thug in the bar who hulks over and then pointedly invades your personal space).

      As for the Algerian consul? – the French government should have politely told him that it was none of his business. That on French soil under French jurisdiction a church can put up whatever statues they like.

  12. Charlie in NY says

    Jul 8, 2016 at 9:16 pm

    I hear that Muslims are very offended by the doctrine of the Trinity. What now?

    • Mississippi Girl says

      Jul 9, 2016 at 2:39 pm

      The Qur’an teaches that Christians believe in three gods and that the “Trinity” consists of Allah, Issa (i.e. Jesus) the Muslim prophet and his mother Mary. That’s why we are told to desist from proclaiming the Triune God. The Muslims take fractured Christian doctrine and tell us we are wrong to believe it. We don’t believe it, of course, but then we are accused of either lying or of not knowing the tenets of our own Faith.

  13. Susan says

    Jul 8, 2016 at 11:48 pm

    Charles Martel must be rolling over in his grave, horrified by the cowardice of those who are now squandering the sacrifice his soldiers made 13 centuries ago to spare France from Islam.

  14. Pal says

    Jul 9, 2016 at 1:20 am

    That’s how islam advances.
    Step by step.
    Never loosing control of its mission…

  15. Gene says

    Jul 9, 2016 at 2:39 am

    This is good news. Now that the church has sold the statues, it will now be possible to make the jizyah payments to the mosque.

    • Martin says

      Jul 9, 2016 at 7:21 am

      IoI

  16. firefox says

    Jul 9, 2016 at 2:46 am

    What else can be expected from “Pope Dhimmi, The First”.
    His actions are so pro-Islamic, no one could be faulted at believing he is anti-Christ!
    Islam has never stopped until it WAS stopped.
    It is time again, not only to stop it but to provide a blow so devastating that when it finally has strength to pick itself up from the ground, one of the first considerations will be reforming itself out of fear that another devastating blow doesn’t again occur.

  17. Baucent says

    Jul 9, 2016 at 6:04 am

    I’m surprised the church even had these statues produced, especially in Lyon where there is a rising population of cultural enrichers. What was the Cardinal thinking?

  18. Benedict says

    Jul 9, 2016 at 6:14 am

    And to think they gave us Saint Joan of Arc. What a shame

  19. Lioness says

    Jul 9, 2016 at 12:04 pm

    Muslims are perpetually offended, so making one futile gesture of appeasement will only require making another and another. But nothing will satisfy them except a complete surrender and the destruction of EVERY church.

  20. Robert John Bennett says

    Jul 9, 2016 at 1:02 pm

    Where will it end? Will the French – or any of us, or perhaps all of us – be pushed farther and farther down the road of “avoiding provocation”? Will the French – or the rest of us – at some point finally decide the only way to avoid “provoking” Muslims is by submitting to Sharia and either converting to Islam or accepting subordinate status as “dhimmis”?

  21. Mark A says

    Jul 9, 2016 at 3:00 pm

    Dhimmitude, weakness and appeasement.

    I’m Catholic and I see nothing wrong with having a statue in a church to honor a Catholic martyr. If the Muslims don’t like it, too bad.

  22. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Jul 9, 2016 at 5:28 pm

    Not surprising, really: ALL religious people are liars who pretend that if they lie (or commit any other crime) against them selves first, it entitles them to commit that same crime against other people, too.

    The positivist phrasing of Christianity’s “Do unto others” automatically leads to such a conclusion.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Jul 9, 2016 at 6:33 pm

      So you really are trying to claim that Christianity and Christians *as such* are no different from and just as evil as Islam and Muslims????

      Really?
      Really?

      So Mr Robert Spencer, a convinced, practising and praying Catholic, whose faith informs his life in every aspect, is *no different* from an Islamic State jihadist?

      Pull the other leg, it’s got bells on.

    • b.a. freeman says

      Jul 9, 2016 at 10:33 pm

      of course! the commands of Jesus to slaughter non-christians are peppered throughout the new testament. after all, didn’t Jesus say, “render unto God what is God’s, and take from caesar, kill him, rape his wife, rape his little girl, and sell his little boy as a slave?” wait, that was another religion …

      before throwing rocks, i would advise checking out the beliefs U are attacking. islam is a pirate cult with beliefs more horrid than nazism and communisim, with far fewer rights accorded to women and children than those two evil systems. christianity was forced on a lot of people, but the people doing so were not following christian beliefs. the behavior of the adherents of a religion do not define the religious beliefs.

  23. John A. Marre says

    Jul 10, 2016 at 11:08 am

    Muslims are offended at everything we do. We should do nothing to please them. Never give in to their demands.

  24. David says

    Jul 10, 2016 at 12:54 pm

    This is incomprehensible to me! I would FIGHT, not sell off art works because some stone age throw backs MAY BE OFFENDED! Where is the Muslum who worries about MY BEING OFFENDED? ????
    Fight for your GOD GIVEN RIGHTS people!
    If and when the Muslim drinkers of Camel Urine and Muslim rapers of children come to their senses, then you might find some common ground for mutual respect. But not untill then.

  25. Manuele says

    Jul 14, 2016 at 6:56 am

    I AM CATHOLIC. AND I SAY THAT THE FRENCH CATHOLICS ARE A BUNCH OF COWARDS AND ARE SUBMITTING TO THE JACKASSES OF THE THE CATHOLIC WORLD. WHAT A BUNCH OF FUCKWITS

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