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France: Five Muslims held by police in connection with Nice jihad massacre

Jul 16, 2016 11:26 am By Robert Spencer

“I never saw him going to the Mosque. He was not a Muslim. During Ramadan I saw him smoking.”

Does that really mean that Bouhlel was not a Muslim? No. If he really did not attend mosque and did not observe Ramadan, all that means is that he was a bad Muslim. He could at some point have awakened and thought, I’m headed for hell. What great deed can I perform that will outweigh all my evil deeds? And the answer to that question, of course, is jihad, the greatest of all deeds.

Also, does the severely compromised BBC know if any of these assertions are actually true? No. And after all the misinformation we saw coming out in the wake of the Orlando jihad massacre — the false claims that jihad murderer Omar Mateen was gay and acting out of revenge, etc. — these claims may very well be false as well.

Anyway, the five arrests strongly suggest that Bouhlel was no “lone wolf,” but part of an active jihad network. France needs to recognize that it is at war. Did it pause for days of national mourning after every battle in World War I and World War II (at least for as long as it lasted in that one)? Or did it get up and grimly set to the task at hand?

Nice mourning

“Attack on Nice: Five held by French police,” BBC, July 16, 2016:

Five people believed to be linked to the man who killed 84 people in Nice are in police custody, the Paris prosecutor’s office says.

Three arrests were made on Saturday and two on Friday, including the man’s estranged wife, Le Monde reported.

Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel drove a lorry into crowds marking Bastille Day on the Promenade des Anglais on Thursday before he was shot dead by police.

So-called Islamic State claimed one of its followers carried out the attack.

A news agency linked to the group, Amaq Agency, said: “He did the attack in response to calls to target the citizens of the coalition that is fighting the Islamic State.”
‘Extreme difficulty’

French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said Lahouaiej-Bouhlel seemed to have been “radicalised very quickly”.

He said the “new type of attack… showed the extreme difficulty of the fight against terrorism”.

Prosecutors said Lahouaiej-Bouhlel, a 31-year-old Tunisian, drove the lorry 2km (1.2 miles) along the promenade targeting people.

Of the 84 who died, 10 were children. Some 202 people were injured; 52 are critical, of whom 25 are on life support….

French President Francois Hollande met his defence and security chiefs and cabinet ministers on Saturday.

He called for national unity in France and said: “We are in a time when, and we have seen it, there is a temptation to divide the country.

“Faced with these temptations, faced with this risk, we must recall the unity and cohesion of this country.”

Mr Hollande, who says the attack was a terrorist act, has already moved to extend a state of emergency by three months, and on Saturday France began three days of national mourning….

Lahouaiej-Bouhlel was known to the police as a petty criminal, but was “totally unknown to intelligence services… and was never flagged for signs of radicalisation,” prosecutor Francois Molins said.

However, Prime Minister Manuel Valls said he was “in way or another” linked to radical Islam and Paris prosecutor Francois Molins said the attack bore the hallmarks of jihadist terrorism.

A neighbour of Lahouaiej-Bouhlel, who used to live in a high-rise block of flats on Boulevard Henri Sappia with his family, said he did not believe the 31-year-old was involved with IS.

Samiq, who did not want to give his surname, told the Press Association news agency: “I never saw him going to the Mosque. He was not a Muslim. During Ramadan I saw him smoking.”…

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  1. maddog20-20 says

    Jul 16, 2016 at 11:38 am

    This killer’s wife is in custody, in France. Meanwhile, the Orlando Florida killer’s spouse is “in the wind” after being released, almost immediately by US government investigators, never to be found again.

    • ElderlyZionist says

      Jul 16, 2016 at 12:01 pm

      Over and over, our government agencies make these ‘mistakes’. I can’t believe they’re all unintentional.

  2. jihad3tracker says

    Jul 16, 2016 at 11:41 am

    THE ONLY THING A DEVOUT, ORTHODOX MUSLIM NEEDS AS A MOTIVATOR FOR JIHAD — KNOWING VERSES IN CHAPTER 9 OF THE QUR’AN.

    Mosque attendance? Optional. Doing forbidden things? Does not matter. Being a “lone wolf”? Can change in a split second.

    • ermom says

      Jul 16, 2016 at 1:14 pm

      j3t, I agree with you. Remember this?

      http://pamelageller.com/2015/04/isis-e-book-how-to-survive-in-the-west-guide-teaches-muslims-how-to-live-double-life.html/

      I’ve said all along, since I started learning about Islam, that there are NO LONE WOLVES, they are all connected by Islam, the Qur’an, hadith and sira.

      AND the knowledge which Robert and other knowledgeable Islamic scholars teach, that while there is NO redemption in Islam, that dying while killing kafir in jihad for Allah, sends a Muslim straight to paradise without facing judgement. Of course, Muslims SUPPORTING THE JIHADIST, and those who emigrate in the way of Allah (bringing Islam and Sharia to non-Muslim nations) make it ‘incumbent’ upon Allah to send the Muslim to paradise.

      As I continue my studies, I found this last week in the Qur’an 18:56. Read the whole verse (find it online, if you don’t have your Qur’an with you, as Robert says. 🙂 ). Here’s the end of it: “We (Allah) have placed veils over their hearts so that they do not understand and deafness over their ears. Even if you give them (kafir) guidance, they will not follow.”

      Do you understand what this means? That Allah hates we kafir so much, that he’s MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR WE KAFIR TO LEARN AND ACCEPT ISLAM. Thus, Allah hates we kafir so much, he WANTS US TO GO TO HELL.

      Allah is clearly NOT our loving God, who loves we sinners so much, that He sent His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him, shall not perish but will have eternal life. John 3:16

      • Westman says

        Jul 16, 2016 at 7:06 pm

        This is predestination with all kufar destined for Hell from their conception.

        This fake diety claims to be just and merciful yet has no use for the majority of humanity beyond pleasuring himself with their torture. Allah is NOT just, NOT merciful, and is the very definition of the “boogeyman”; describing in his “book” a gory detail of torture methods in his Hell.

        Christianity says, “love thy neighbor as thyself”

        Islam says, “love thy neighbor if he is Muslim; convert, enslave, tax, or kill him if he is not”.

        Obviously, Allah’s pupose for creating humans is to have his ego stroked and provide some hellish entertainment for a sadistic mind. He would be the perfect tyrant if real. As Muhammad’s sock puppet, the entire fabrication of Allah was to enslave a Muslim’s mind and body as a weapon to be used at Muhammad’s command. Those 5 prayers/day are recursive conditioning to keep the “slaves” in line – literally.

    • Sam says

      Jul 17, 2016 at 9:07 am

      Seems like he is more like a crazy atheist not a Muslim.

  3. Walter Sieruk says

    Jul 16, 2016 at 12:17 pm

    That Bastille Day jihad attack in Nice, France is Koranic based, as seen in for example in Sura 4:89. 5:33. 9:5, 111,123. 47:4. As most everyone knows the Koran, or as some call it the Quran , is the whole foundation of and for Islam. So it may be illustrated that of Islam is represented as a tree then the fruits then the fruits of that tree are the many brutal, violent and deadly jihad terror entities. Such as ISIS, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, al Shabaab , Hamas, Hezbollah, P.I.J. etc. With this statement, the Wisdom of the teachings of Jesus may, very much, apply to this subject. For Jesus taught “Ye do know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.” After saying this Jesus told them what He told them when He said “By their fruit ye shall know them.” Matthew 7:16, 17, 18,.20. [K.J.V.] In conclusion, Islam is a corrupt tree and also a false religion, Proverbs 14:12. John 14:6. First John 2:22,23. 4:14,15. 5:12,13,20.

  4. Walter Sieruk says

    Jul 16, 2016 at 12:17 pm

    The god of Islam likes it when non-Muslims [Kafirs] die. An in that Bastille day jihad terror attack in Nice ,France., For example, on July 8, 2005 on Palestinian television Imam Abu Hamza Al-Masri said “What makes Allah happy? Allah is happy when Kafiers get killed. [1] As shown in an earlier posting the god of Islam is not the same god as the God of the Bible. The above words of these Imams reflect the example of Islam’s prophet and the teachings of the Quran. “Muhammad now fell upon them [the Jews] slew all the men, nine hundred of them…”[2]Moreover, the Quran reads “When ye encounter the unbelievers strike off their heads, until ye have made great slaughter among them. Verily if Allah pleased, He could take vengeance on them without your assistance, but He commandeth you to fight His Battles.” 47:4In short, these Imams and their murderous prophet with their bloody Quran show the world what Islam really is. After all, Jesus did teach “by their fruits ye shall know them.” Matthew 7:20. [KJV]

    [1] The disc documentary OBSESSION: RADICAL ISLAM’s AGAINST THE WEST
    [2] THE OUTLINE OF HISTORY: THE WHOLE STORY OF MAN by H.G. Wells

    • Politicallyincorrectistruth says

      Jul 17, 2016 at 3:55 am

      You can`t actually believe that allah is real can you?? There is no god, islam god, christian god or any other god because there is zero evidence. To live your life as if he does exist, when there is zero evidence is moronic. If you think it`s possible he does exist but live your life as if he does not….that would be living in reality. Science has shown the bible to be not true.

      • Politicallyincorrectistruth says

        Jul 17, 2016 at 4:00 am

        Noahs ark is just hilarious and childish. It is not possible in so many ways. If you took the best minds we have today and a fleet of jumbo jets, it would take years to get all the animals to the boat which would be the size of a small country. Hilarious nonsense.

  5. Walter Sieruk says

    Jul 16, 2016 at 12:18 pm

    On Bastille Day in Nice France there was another jihadist/Muslim terror attack. This jihad attack, like the others, was vicious, malicious and murderous. At first that jihadist opened fired into a group of people and then he plowed into and through, with a large truck, a crowd of people. In that deadly Islamic terror attack in Nice it was so awful and hideous that one witness, just after that Islamic terror attack, described the scene as “bodies everywhere.” Another wittiness said “I was standing in blood, It’ everywhere.” This Islamic jihadist attack in Nice resulted in 84 murdered and over 200injured. This violent and heinous murderous action of Islamic violence is based on the violence and killing that is part of the doctrines of the Koran, as some call Islam’s “holy book” the Qur’an . To give only a few of many example of this from the Koran is Sura 2:191 which instructs “Kill the disbelievers wherever you fine them.” Likewise, the Koran also teaches “Whenever you encounter the unbeliever’s strike of their heads, until you make a great slaughter among them…” Sura 47:4. Let’s face it , using a firearm and a truck can sure make a greater “slaughter among them” then a sword can . In addition, that jihad –minded Muslim also died in the brutal and deadly Islamic attack. This too is Koranic based. For the Koran instructs “The believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, they kill and are killed.” Sura 9:111. So it’s not wise to be taken in as in fool as or snowed , by the many apologists for Islam who make the false claim that “Islam is a peaceful religion that was hijacked by criminal for politics” That is a lame attempt to hide as in cover up the violent and deadly essence of that religion which is Islam.

  6. Angemon says

    Jul 16, 2016 at 12:33 pm

    Five people believed to be linked to the man who killed 84 people in Nice are in police custody, the Paris prosecutor’s office says.

    You mean that five people suspected or knew what he was up to and did nothing to stop him?

    *gasp*

    I’m shocked, SHOCKED!!!

    • Ex-muslim says

      Jul 16, 2016 at 1:27 pm

      They are effeminated COWARDS who cannot defend themselves and blood thirsty muslims know and understand this fact will keep killing them from left to right and until they finish them off!

      • Angemon says

        Jul 16, 2016 at 4:24 pm

        EM, while I understand you’re paid to post anti-Western vitriol, you need to at least learn to do it in a way that’s not blatantly obvious if you want your propaganda to be effective. Your employers are not getting their money’s worth – I’d worry about the next performance review, if I were you…

        • Ex-muslim says

          Jul 16, 2016 at 5:37 pm

          hundreds of french civilians were murdered by islamic terrrists for the past 18 months
          and not a single french man did fight back against this and that is why i called them cowards. what else will you call them.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 16, 2016 at 6:04 pm

          Ex-muslim posted:

          “hundreds of french civilians were murdered by islamic terrrists for the past 18 months
          and not a single french man did fight back against this
          ”

          Oh, I guess those murderers must died of old age then… Like I said, anti-Western vitriol – and increasingly more incoherent and nonsensical by the post.

      • Christianblood says

        Jul 16, 2016 at 8:05 pm

        Ex-muslim posted

        (..They are effeminated COWARDS who cannot defend themselves and blood thirsty muslims know and understand this fact will keep killing them from left to right and until they finish them off!..)

        Very well-said (EM)! They truly are cowards!

        • Angemon says

          Jul 16, 2016 at 8:09 pm

          *gasp*

          CB claiming EM is right?

          I’m shocked, SHOCKED!!!

          Seriously though, these two – along with a couple other posters – are the Human Centipede of the JW comment section – with the difference that the last person on the Human Centipede wasn’t trying to convince anyone that their mouth was filled with anything but s***. CB, EM and the other couple of their apologists routinely and consistently tell us that their mouths are filled with nothing but the tastiest, most nutritious food of the Gods, despite the smell that can be felt miles away.

        • Christianblood says

          Jul 16, 2016 at 8:33 pm

          Angemon

          You can’t silence the truth with insults and cheap personal attacks! The truth is, as (EM) said above that Westerners are cowards who favor islam and muslims while they hate Christians and other victims of the global islamic jihad. They are truly weak and spineless cowards who cannot defend themselves and that is why muslims are slaughtering them in their hundreds within their own countries. They are COWARDS!

        • Angemon says

          Jul 17, 2016 at 1:06 pm

          Christianblood posted:

          “Angemon

          You can’t silence the truth with insults and cheap personal attacks!”

          You mean, like when you called me an “establishment plant”, “liar or ignorant or both” or “the Anti-Christ”, or when EM called me an ” homosexual Jew and fanatical atheist who hates Christians”? Or how you’re calling others “effeminate cowards”? Something something take the plank out of your eye before complaining about the speck on your brother’s. You and EM are Russian trolls paid by the Russian government to spread disinformation and anti-Western vitriol.

          “The truth is”

          The truth is that you’re a serial liar. A *paid* serial liar

          “as (EM) said above that Westerners are cowards ”

          And there you go with the personal attacks and insults, right after chastising me for alleged insults and personal attacks. Any impartial JW regular who’s read my responses to you can attest that I give plenty of facts and arguments to counter the asinine point and flat out lies you and EM kick up – personal insults are, for me, a side-dish, not the main course. Can you claim the same? Because you just wrote a post to back up someone who posted nothing but personal insults – the Human Centipede comparison I made is growing increasingly more apt.

  7. billybob says

    Jul 16, 2016 at 2:35 pm

    He called for national unity in France and said: “We are in a time when, and we have seen it, there is a temptation to divide the country. “Faced with these temptations, faced with this risk, we must recall the unity and cohesion of this country.”

    What does he mean by that? An atrocity has been committed, and he fears that could divide the country – how? Between those who are for it and those who are against it? But there can only be one side to this – the side of those who oppose the slaughter of innocents. Anybody who supports this act must be hunted down and routed out and killed. There can be no unity with them. No cohesion. Anybody who follows an ideology that condones this act must be exposed, and that ideology must be stamped out and eliminated. They are the enemies of the people, the enemies of freedom. There can be no unity with them. No cohesion.

  8. billybob says

    Jul 16, 2016 at 3:09 pm

    For Allah, whom we worship exclusively
    For Allah we sacrifice our lives
    For Allah, whom we glorify
    For Allah – yes we terrify you

    For Allah alone we made this choice
    To kill with hearts full of joy
    We will kill you without mercy
    Between you and us there is enmity

    Our actions are guided by the Koran
    No matter what the wretched ignorants say
    We will kill you if Allah wills it
    We will kill, we have vowed to kill

    http://www.memrijttm.org/isis-song-in-french-for-allah-alone-we-made-this-choice-to-kill-with-hearts-full-of-joy.html

  9. Havoc says

    Jul 16, 2016 at 5:22 pm

    “Bouhlel was seen near a mosque …”
    .
    That works for me – hang him.

  10. jude says

    Jul 16, 2016 at 6:58 pm

    Jails are full of muslims who do go to the mosque, read the koran and pray 5 times a day. They are violent criminal thug who deal drugs and kill people while they take over suburbs making them no go zones.
    Maybe the ones shouting “they aren’t real muslims” ought to rethink the situation, maybe they aren’t real muslims. If they did this they would realise they need to be terrorists for the sake of their satanic allah or change their so called religion.
    It was a masterstroke calling islam a religion, how else would they have gotten away with all they do.

  11. Jack Holan says

    Jul 16, 2016 at 8:12 pm

    How many times have IS instructed its troops going to the West, shave your beard, dress in Western clothes, don’t act religious. Why should any of this be a surprise? I’m certain wherever and however he garnered his beliefs didn’t happen in a day, week or month. His wife knows something, its impossible that she doesn’t unless they lived apart for an extended period of time. As far as training he didn’t get it from a magazine only. How did he get the money or know where to go for bullet proof glass. If this was an above board place they certainly would have asked what do you need this for a truck. There are many loose ends. I have no doubt French Intel will have no problem running it down without the help of the FBI Obama Jeh Johnson, they’ve been in the Mid-East forever and have dealt with Muslims for eons. The only thing to get in the way are Politicians.

  12. Baucent says

    Jul 17, 2016 at 3:18 am

    “He could at some point have awakened and thought, I’m headed for hell. What great deed can I perform that will outweigh all my evil deeds? And the answer to that question, of course, is jihad, the greatest of all deeds.”

    Nail on the head Robert. This is the simple explanation as to why so many jihadists appear to come from the ranks of unreligious petty criminals. All you need is a jihadist talent spotter to find a likely recruit, lean on them with the doctrine that their only redemption hope is Jihad.

  13. Crusades Were Right! says

    Jul 17, 2016 at 8:07 am

    The next time you see a “bad” Muslim smoking during Ramadan, remember – he can still get to Muslim heaven if he has access to “infidels” (and a method of killing them!).

  14. dumbledoresarmy says

    Jul 17, 2016 at 9:51 am

    “I never saw him going to the mosque”.

    That does NOT necessarily mean the murderer *didn’t* frequent the mosque. It just means, strictly parsed, that this particular neighbour, Samiq, did not actually *see* him going there. He might have seen him coming *back* from mosque, he might even have seen him *at* the mosque, he just didn’t see him going *to* the mosque…

    (Of course, this is – I assume – an English translation of whatever it was that “Samiq’ said in French. I’d like to know what he said in the French. )

  15. Soloview says

    Jul 17, 2016 at 11:18 am

    It’s clear that the Nice shooter was a moderate Muslim.

  16. EL says

    Jul 17, 2016 at 12:57 pm

    Flowers and tears like idiots! If this was the 1950s people would have been protesting and demanding actions!

  17. dave says

    Jul 17, 2016 at 1:15 pm

    Based on the first two paragraphs, I again ask why you don’t make it a campaign to publicly ask imams whether or not these murderers are in heaven. In other words, does verse 9.111 apply. If they deny the validity of that verse, then publish their names as evidence that the Koran is not the unalterable word of Allah.

  18. Carmel says

    Jul 17, 2016 at 2:36 pm

    Since France brought back wolves in south eastern forests int the last 30 years, there is more lonely wolves now: 5

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